Here’s what Greg Cosell said about Alex Smith this morning on KNBR’s Murph and Mac Show.
Q: The reasons I liked the Niners to beat the Saints are the same reasons I like them to beat the Giants – coaching, defense and Candlestick. But I guess we’ve got to add quarterback to that list, huh?
COSELL: And you’re right about that. They’re defense, despite Drew Brees’ numbers, played exceptionally well. You could argue that other than Sproles touchdown and the Graham touchdown in the fourth quarter, I thought this defense was close to playing a gem of a performance. And with all that it was 24-23 Saints with four minutes to go.
Sooner or later in playoff football the quarterback has to make throws in critical situations. That’s the way the NFL is. And you know what? Alex Smith made three throws in those final three minutes and thirty seconds of that game that were as good as you can make. You can’t make them any better. And I would personally argue that the winning touchdown to Vernon Davis, and I’m taking nothing away from the catch, but the throw made that play, not the catch.
The throw had to beat the safety, Roman Harper. Smith threw that ball before Davis even got past the underneath linebacker, Scott Shanle. Think about that for a minute – the anticipation and accuracy of that throw. He threw that ball before he got past the underneath defender. Isn’t it fascinating that they’ve been terrible in the red zone all year long and they win and advance based on as good of a red zone throw as you’ll ever see.
Q: Doesn’t that end notion that Jim Harbaugh doesn’t have confidence in Alex Smith.
COSELL: Yes, because that was third down and that play was designed for a touchdown. I bet a lot of people wouldn’t have been surprised if they played to tie it at high in a playoff game, with the momentum sort of teetering. So, yes, I think that that shows absolute faith and obviously that was rewarded. The other two throws, by the way, on the first fourth quarter drive which ended in Smith’s run – which by the way was as good of a play call as we’ve also seen all year – but the throw to Davis on the fade route to get to that point, and then throw to Davis on the final drive in the middle of the field – all those throws.
A number of people I talked to this week said no one would have expected that from Alex Smith. A lot of people think I’m nuts, but Alex Smith had not shown this ability throughout his career. When he made those three throws – those are big, big time throws.
But the other thing you have to remember is – and this is why I love watching tape – Gregg Williams, the D coordinator for the Saints, he chose to be incredibly aggressive with blitz and with man coverage. He understood that he was putting a safety, either Roman Harper or Malcolm Jenkins, on Vernon Davis. Now, why do you think he did that? He did that because he didn’t believe that Alex Smith could make the throws. In other words, the mismatch of Davis against a safety, which favors the Niners clearly, that mismatch would not be exploited by Alex Smith. He lost and he’s not with the Saints anymore, but the point is he did not believe Alex Smith could make those throws.
And by the way, he knows more than I do and watches even more tape than I do. He chose to go that route.
Q: Trent Dilfer used the phrase ‘perception changer.’ Do you agree that game was a perception changer for Alex Smith?
COSELL: I don’t think there’s any question that there’s a confidence element here, because when you make stick throws into tight windows, which is part of being a quality NFL quarterback, when you do that in the crucible of a big game, then you believe you can do it. If he’s in a tight game Sunday and it’s 21-20 in the fourth quarter and it’s third and nine and he’s got to make a stick throw, he knows he can make that throw. There’s no question now in his mind. So, perception? I think it’s in Alex’s head. He now knows he can make that throw.
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All of this talk about Alex Smith not having previously made or being unable to make “these throws” is simply wrong. Anyone closely watching his career knows that he is capable of making and, in fact, has made these clutch and tight window throws on numerous prior occasions this year and in years past. The frustrating element to his career has always been his inconsistency in other aspects of his game. When it comes to making game-winning plays and throws and executing the two minute offense, however, he has routinely displayed poise, accuracy and clutch play.
I agree. I’ve been frustrated by that as well. A good friend of mine (Seahawks fan….yeesh), after last season asked me if I was finally convinced Smith wasn’t the answer at QB. I said, no! Smith was not the problem with the team when it was struggling. I don’t know how anyone could have even really guaged him one way or the other. The o-line was brutal, the offensive coaching was brutal, and the receivers were brutal (VD aside).
I remember several games last year where they’d run the Jimmy Raye system to a typical 21-3 deficit, then Smith would come out slinging it, and he looked great, until the eventual late interception caused by him being put in a position where he had to force a throw deep into coverage with an unblocked d-lineman about to crush him. Then, he’d be the goat who couldn’t get it done. Arrgh…
I’m so glad those days are done. Sweet vindication for a good man who deserves it!
thank you. totally agree on the past blame/perception of Smith being unrealistic. Now the local and national media are rushing to crown him a winner. The fact is, this is the first time he’s had enough talent (good OL, good TE, ok WRs) and good coaching. Add a true #1 WR and you’ll see him regularly throw for 250-300 next year.
Alex isn’t in the elite category (Brees/Brady/P. Manning), but he’s in the top half of the QB class. I’ve been thinking 15th-best QB, but his efficiency has him about #9 or #10 in the league. Somehow he only threw 5 INTs this year, and 1 or 2 of them were good throws/bad drops (Ginn v. Giants!).
Good pass blocking has a lot to do with it, too, so big props to the whole OL and much better play calling. Lastly, he’s starting to show more willingness to scramble, which nearly always results in a positive play.
Well said Canada,
Gee… Look what “Coaching” can do for a Much Maligned QB eh?
Alex is a very accurate quarterback, his consistency this year is remarkable. The legacy of the 49ers was asleep and now they’re going for number 6, it puts the other 5, even though the last one was almost eight years ago, in the Now. One last thing about Greg Williams, I thought he played to win. I believe he would’ve played the same way regardless who the QB was. He used his people to the best of their abilities.
I’ve generally considered passing game problems as part of the on-going receiver problems. Look at 2007 as classic example. There was no run game in the first three weeks and yet we were 2-1. The wins were, on offense, on Smith’s shoulders and he was supported by good defense.
His QB rating wasn’t very good. But if you looked inside the numbers, you’d realized that his receivers, in Smith’s 85 attempts, dropped THIRTEEN BALLS, including two TDs.
No QB rating can survive that receiver ineptitude. Had the receivers only dropped the normal-squad’s 3 passes, Smith’s QB rating would have been in the low-90s. Instead there nine, or ten depending on your rounding, excess drops. Those excess drops too about 13% off his completion percentage as well two TDs off his TD numbers.
Then he got hurt. Then he came back with a still broken shoulder. Then he came back with a still broken shoulder. And, suddenly, he’s a big, fat loser…
Why? Because he had no WRs? Because you can’t play QB with a broken shoulder? Because there have only been two statistically productive receivers on this team since he started — Arnez Battle (SURPRISE, he was) before his knees died and Josh Morgan this year?
That every other receiver he’s had has been a statistical drain on the offense, even when he’s making postive statistical efforts?
Now, was he perfect? No. And he’s still not. But he’s about where I expected him to be in 2007. In fact, he is now, what he was in early, pre-shoulder injury 2007. Only the WRs are not dropping quite as many balls so his rating is better.
And, yes, they’re still pass droppers. Despite the second lowest number of attempts in the NFL, and and a 138 fewer attempts than the Giants, we’re tied with the Giants for 8th in dropped passes.
For the Giants, that’s an average drop rate as they’re 6th in the NFL in attempts. We’re 31st… Being tied for a negative, despite far, far fewer attempts is not a good thing.
But it’s not as completely horrible as it was five years ago when the knives really started coming out after McNolan ripped Smith for being ‘weak.’
Moses, I’m not disagreeing with you as it takes two to tango, but let’s stay positive until the after 9ers win the Superbowl then we can talk about talent upgrades.
Hopefully Smith executes against the Giants better than he did the first time. He missed a wide open Crabtree on 3 scoring plays that game.
If we are going to rip on Crabs then EVERYONE is fair game. This is the one game where Smith was completely exposed for his inaccuracy on the deep ball.
The good news is that if Crabs was able to consistently get open the first time around, maybe he can do it again. And hopefully on this occasion his QB won’t miss.
@bay:
Yeah, if only Alex Smith had executed better, the 49ers could have beaten the Giants that day.
By the way, here are Alex’s stats from that game:
19-30 (63.3%) for 242 yards (8.1 yards/attempt)
1 TD, 1 interception. QB rating of 85.7
Of course the interception was a pass that Ted Ginn let bounce off of his hands into the hands of the DB. If Ginn catches that pass, Smith’s completion percentage, yardage total, yards/attempt and QB rating all go up.
Bay, like I said, it takes two to tango and I won’t go negative until after the 9er SB win, but I’m still waiting for WR’s to step up. AS has big time.
Claude,
absolutely. The one pick was on Ginn. My issue with that game is that missing three wide open scoring opportunities left our team in a dog fight. It should have been a laugher.
Imagine if we had wiped them out by 14+ point like we should have. There would be much doubt in the minds of the Giants.
Imagine the confidence boost it would have given MC coming back into this game. MC needs our support too. He is a young man that needs a confidence boost just like Smith. Much of the fans have been down on his just like Smith.
I only point out that in that particular game MC could have had a huge breakout game and unfortunately Smith missed him on scoring opportunities 3 straight times…. Why is it so difficult for you to acknowledge that?
He missed a wide open Crabtree on 3 scoring plays that game.
Statements like this are a perfect example of why the Smith haters hold no credibility. They are completely erroneous, or exaggerated.
Looks like Troy Smith, the once future QB of the Niners has signed with the Steelers.
Bay, didn’t know you had access to NFL all 22 film footage. I re-watched the game last night and AS had guys in his face all day. You always seem to see it from *one* perspective. Again not very fair and balanced.
Hofer,
this is a direct quote from Grant:
Because if he’s really an elite quarterback, he has to make better throws in the red zone. To start the third quarter, Smith drove the offense down to the NY 10-yard line. On first down he missed Michael Crabtree on a fade route in the end zone. On second down he missed Braylon Edwards on a short slant. And on third down he missed Edwards again on a back-shoulder pass in the end zone.
Now, while Grant didn’t bring up the missed deep passes, Smith’s misses of a wide open Crabtree on the deep routes, he did write a follow up article titled, ” Can Alex Smith throw deep “.
Kills me that you can call it straight Hofer when the results are great. But you’ve NEVER been able to be honest about the inadequacies.
Bay, you sound bitter that AS came through with a signature play. Have you ever heard the adage, “I’d rather be rich than right”!??
Move on man. Time to get ready for the game!!
Bayareafanatic, King of the Blanket Statement.
He didn’t miss Edwards, Edwards was playing like a sloth and couldn’t get out of his break quick enough. That’s why he is gone. The pass to Crabtee hit his hands, and he was well-covered. So tell me again, where did he miss a “wide open Crabtree” on “three straight scoring opportunities”? Yes he could have been more accurate and aggressive earlier in the season, but why do you always feel the need to exaggerate?
The fact that we are even discussing this is juvenile.
Hofer I am responding. I am sticking up for Crabtree. I know you won’t do this because you are not a fan of his.
Bay, I like MC. Not unlike you with AS, I want him to come through this week with the game of his life.
Sound familiar?
@LSX
Want proof that we have the same circular argument one day after the next?
Look below this thread to oneniner’s Jan 19th 1:05 post, and tell me oneniners post isn’t appropriate on this thread as well.
Bay – What’s your prediction for Sunday?
I think we should try that play we used against the Redskins, the 30 yard TD throw to Bruce Miller. I think Greg Roman has been banking that play. Hope Tom Coughlin doesn’t read this. :-)
Thanks for having Crabtree’s back Bayarea!
Crab,
I’m going 24-20. The team that doesn’t turn it over wins.
@bay:
and unfortunately Smith missed him on scoring opportunities 3 straight times…. Why is it so difficult for you to acknowledge that?
Because I have little reason to trust your description/analysis of the alleged phenomenon. You consistently have proven yourself incapable of impartially or rationally assessing Smith’s performance. Your “observations” all reflect your preconceived opinions regarding imagined shortcomings in Smith’s game – inaccuracy, lack of arm strength, skittishness in the pocket, and my favorite, the absence of any fight in his eyes (your vision must be inhumanly good). You simply are not credible.
Without knowing the routes Crabtree was supposed to run, how do we know that Smith’s throws were inaccurate? All season, you have ripped Alex for his “inaccuracy” because of high throws. Other commenters have noted that those high throws only seem to happen with Crabtree (they have not occurred on throws to Davis; I don’t remember it happening with Walker or Morgan either), which suggests that perhaps Crabtree has not been where Smith expects him to be on those throws. Every time the question is raised, however, you conspicuously have avoided answering it.
What it really comes down to is this:
Alex Smith played a game for the ages on Saturday, a game in which he led your favorite team to an epic playoff victory with two (TWO!!!!!) come from behind touchdown drives in the final 4 minutes. Why, after that game, do you continue to go out of your way to criticize him?
What is wrong with you?
..this guy is nuts……..of course he has thrown some perfect accurate passes before in his career……and in critical situations…..
…just top of my head…i recall a perfect pass to VD against the jaguars – i think last season – i believe is was 4th down
Lions this year. . . Saints on MNF last year. . . to name just 2.
@one
The guy is trying to weasel his way out of his previous evals.
AS had to put it perfectly in Detroit, and did so, winning the game.
Against Baltimore, he threw a perfect 18 or so yard out pass hitting TG right between the numbers, only he dropped it and the Niners lost.
And how often have we heard all year that AS can’t throw a deep sideline pass into a tight window? Well, everytime he really needed to, he has the last few weeks. Hitting several last week in high pressure moments.
AS has been money all season long in the big moments. 6 come from behind wins this year should prove it to eveybody. When the pressure is on, so is AS. Heck, I think he is better than he is normally with the pressure.
Just because Cosell is complimentary now does not mean he was a dick all season long.
One in 10 does not an accurate passer make.
As good an acceptance as we are going to get from him.
D
Ok, I’ll accept that as eating some crow (kinda of) from Cosell.
He gets consolation in that he was not the only one that was wrong about Alex Smith and the Niners being only Pretenders.
Well Greg, anything that make you fell better is fine…
*anything that makes you feel better is fine…
Cosell has been trashing Smith all season long. I know the guy is like a football guru but his perception has been tainted from all the years that A.Smith has almost been there. Throughout the years he has been close so many times to being a breakout, the year Norv was our OC he showed MASSIVE improvement, but then the injury the bad HC’s the new system they all had a part in his performance. Having Defensive minded coaches who know nothing about Offense also hasn’t helped (Singletary more so than Nolan). However it seems since about halfway through Last season Smith has really started coming into his own, his College coach has said multiple times Smith is nonfunctional until he understands an offense, Having 7 OC’s in 7 years makes it hard for a QB as cerebral as Smith to really get a full grasp. No matter what they all say Smith had to have lost confidence someone as smart as him knows what everyone is saying about him and that had to have an effect. I used to be a HUGE A.Smithdoubter happily since re-replacing T.Smith He has shown more confidence and swagger. Watching A.Smith over this season it is clear he is getting better and better and i think next year he is going to be Elite. Even if they lose this week, the Niners are finally in a position to be in the playoffs year in year out, they have a QB , RB, TE’s and a shut down defense, all we need is for Kingcrab to step up, and re-sign J.Morgan, We have that Wes Welker type player in Kyle williams, and that speedy small back iN KH, we need to draft a young WR to shore up that position and maybe another CB (although TB has been playing lights out the last 5 games), we also need some more depth at the Dline (Rick JF is good but i think besides him and that Tufuaku (that INT he made was awesome) guy we dont have any other Dlinemen. , and Oline we NEED depth, especially at Guard and Center, Goodwin is awesome but he is only a top end Stop gap(he is old).
No one discounts “why” Smith sucked for so long. No one has every said that there was no legitimacy to the fact that he had poor coaching and a turn style of systems and OC’s. But the situation is what it is. And he was being judged and assessed on a game by game basis.
This is not a league that feels sorry for players that didn’t get a fair shake. If that’s the case then we should feel badly for guys like David Carr, or Jeff George. Poor guys were victims of bad coaches and bad offensive lines…. Lets give them another shot somewhere else with a more QB friendly system…. This isn’t a fairy tale, it’s the NFL.
That’s what makes Alex’s growth in his last game so special. He was FINALLY the reason they won. No one can take what he did away from him. No one can say he rode the defenses coat tails this game. He made the perfect throws, he was the reason they won. Now lets see if it sticks. Lets see if he can grow from it. If he can channel this performance and consistently play at this level. Or if he is going to go back to being average like he was most of the season.
@bay
No one has every said that there was no legitimacy to the fact that he had poor coaching and a turn style of systems and OC’s.
That’s absolute crap. Plenty of people, including you, repeatedly derided the citation of those facts as mere “Alexcuses.”
But the situation is what it is. And he was being judged and assessed on a game by game basis.
Actually, he was being judged by some on a quarter by quarter basis, which, as we all know, is the reasonable way to judge QBs.
That’s what makes Alex’s growth in his last game so special. He was FINALLY the reason they won.
Finally?
I’m sorry, FINALLY? I guess you didn’t watch the Philly game. Or the pass to beat Detroit. Or the first game against the Giants. Or any of the other 4th quarter comebacks.
Smith’s performance last week wasn’t the result of some magical switch being flipped. “BOOM! He suddenly has it!” I could describe it as the culmination of something that has been building all season, but I don’t think that accurately describes it either. The man has demonstrated those skills previously this season. It’s just that the stakes were much higher this time. And he had to do it twice in the same game.
David Carr went to a HOU team that surrounded him with no one and an offensive line that surrended sacks like 23J excentuates hate on AS. He was shell shocked by all the hits he took in HOU and never recovered.
Jeff George had a very good coach in Ted Marchibroda, an offensive genius by Harbaugh admission. George never could read a defense and decided that he was a gunslinger and it killed his career.
Alex Smith endured everything from bad coaching, bad personnel, to lack of continuity since drafted. No one here feels sorry for Alex Smith, I think what most fans can appreciate is that all those factors were a true reflection of his development. Now that he has a good supporting cast, good coaching, he is able to display the talent that will make him an elite QB in an elite system.
” Lets see if he can grow from it. If he can channel this performance and consistently play at this level.
We’ll see when the draft comes and he gets some more playmakers on offense.
You make a nice argument, and then you just completely discount it. Why? Average all season? Not really. Lowest # of INTs ever. Top-10 QB rating. Let’s be smart, bud, you and me, together. I’ll walk you through it. See if you can follow along…
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Per your argument, the coaching has made AS’ career mediocre, just like Jeff George & David Carr. Not a bad statement. Congrats, you have a brain. Then where did you go? Oh yeah, your hatred grabbed you by the short & curlies and shook you stupid again.
If Alex hadn’t been asked to win any games this year, then who was that? Was that the coaching staff? Why YES, I believe it was! 250 less attempts than Brees. Is Brees or Alex in the NFC Championship Game? Okay, so you say Alex didn’t win any games prior to this one? What does the #6 in the 4th quarter mean to you? I’ll let you figure that one out. Hate to say it BAFan, but you are still diseased with that putrid stank. As always Bud, Harbaugh would strike you down if you wore that stupid shirt around him.
Bay,
I think you are viewing revisionist history. The people that wanted Smith gone have always ignored the reasons why he’s struggled and said they were nothing but Alexcuses as Claude pointed out.
There’s a reason Smith has been given so many chances in SF. It’s because he’s shown glimpses of being a good NFL QB, and has the attributes to achieve it if given a stable enviornment. I’ve questioned his ability to ever reach his potential, but he’s clearly taken a huge step forward this season, and an even bigger one last week.
I like Cosell and Jaws, but the East Coast and National media think this is all a magic trick and he just flowered all of a sudden last Saturday when he’s actually had some really good games before this season. They just noticed now because the 9ers are finally relevant on the national stage again.
Bay,
HUGE + 1 for Claude and Rocket.
If you want to say you were wrong about Smith, and are now a fan [or whatever else you would want to say], that’s fine. But to position yourself as someone who was not sure about Smith and were hopeful he could one day become a legit NFL QB is comical.
No big deal, football is just a diversion, but come on, dude. You were wrong about Smith, let’s move on.
@ex
I agree 100% with you on this post.
Kinda cool that I can disagree with your last post, and agree with this one. : – )
Smith broke out in 2007. And I said so. And I pointed out why his early 2007 stats were bad, because the receivers dropped an abnormal number of balls in his three healthy games. And why wasn’t fair to judge him on the balance of 2007 (broken shoulder) or 2008 (still broken shoulder). I pointed out just how bad our receivers have been over this time. How they have been, consistently, among the league leaders in drops, lack of YAC, and, in general, just plain sucked…
And, despite all this, that Smith lead the 49ers to more points-scored-per-game than any of the QBs you supported over Smith. Especially Hill, who could managed one TD and two FGs a game of offense. While Smith was managing two TDs and two FGs of offens with the same players.
You and people like called those ‘Alexcuses’and you called him a loser and Hill a winner. Even though the real difference was on defense which gave up, on average, 25 points a game for Smith… While, in Hill’s short tenure, they were on a hot streak, frequently holding teams to 13 and under… With no help from Hill, I might add…
During all this time, you, and people like you, were not ‘hopeful’ Smith would break out. You were certain he was a flop and supported, in no particular order, over Smith:
Ken Dorsey, Arnez Battle (lol, you did), Cody Pickett, TJ O’Sullivan, Shaun Hill, Troy Smith and, of course, the now absent Tim’s man crush — Nate Davis.
All of whom are, at best NFL backups. Actually, only Hill is an NFL backup. The rest are out of the NFL.
Well 49er brothers and sisters,it’s Thursday and I’m not feeling you yet …are we ready to rock the stick!?
Heck Yeah! (Just wish I was going to be there :-)
I’m just now getting my voice back from last week – already planning on not having it next week!!!
Are you Daisy?
No.
>> He lost and he’s not with the Saints anymore, but the point is he did not believe Alex Smith could make those throws.
Alex Smith, coach-killer ;)
Hahahaha. Nice, Rib!!
Nice.
How about this? The Saints were a QB (Alex Smith) away from the NFC Championship game.
Ouch. Maybe they need a Jr. Game Manager.
@ribico
Have a nice trip on over to CA!
Be sure to give the Niner D players that extra boost of energy. lol
Thanks, DS! I’m bouncing off the (tiny NYC apt) walls here – heading out first thing Friday AM. Guess I’ll need to pick up a Niners rain poncho when I get out to the Bay Area. I think my tickets might be under the overhang tho.
@ribico/md/others attending the game
Be sure to bring all the energy and love that we all here on this blog have for our team and express it as loudly as possible.
@ribico
Nothing but aces!!
Well, not sure we can say Williams lost his job because of Saturday’s game – he’d already made his decision on St. Louis – but I appreciate the irony. Smith put up good games against Steve Spagnolo, Raheem Morris and Juan Castillo, who have all either lost their jobs or are presumed to have. Of course, that may be more of an indictment on the coaches than Smith.
Haha, speaking of irony, Spagnolo just signed with the Saints. Coordinator swap!
The 49er offense was in gear against the Saints in that last drive. If my team was in front I would not have gone into a prevent Defense. That’s the way the Saints play ball, Greg Williams played it right.
Can somebody ask Lowell Cohn what he thinks of Joe Paterno’s newest interview where he says he didn’t know what to do-even after hearing his coach was having sex with a ten year old boy in the Penn State showe?..On top of the 1998 reports he also didn’t seem “To know what to do?”.
My ears hear “I didn’t know what to do other then whats best for Joe Paterno-to hell with those boys or future victims”.
Someone did something like that to a friends child. The person who saw knew what to do. The S.O.B. is now in jail. Where he, no doubt, enjoys his prison love…
Unless, of course, they put him in protective custody. Because my understanding is they do that. Even the scum of the scum know what to do with crap like Sandusky…
Yup , Cosell is back pedaling ( Pretty ) fast , if i remember correctly , there was no love from him and numerous others … Cosell get of my Wagon …!!
Agreed, this talk of Alex not being able to make the throws is just not accurate. It makes me think Cosell hadn’t bothered watching a 49ers game in the past six years. Smith has been excellent throws every season he’s been in the league. He’s also made terrible throws. But he has shown the ability to make stick passes for years…Harbaugh didn’t put him in the position to have to do it much this year. But he did it vs the Lions and vs the Eagles already this year, and he’s played very well in past years against the Seahawks, at Denver, etc.
Cosell, please meet 23Jordan.
speaking of 23J, haven’t seen him in a while.
@KT
Did he pay up?
@claude
I’d much rather have 23J keep his word about never posting here again as he promised.
Maybe Grant can setup some sort of account for KT whereby we can chip in money till the balance reaches $1000, then give it to KT.
@DS:
I’d much rather have 23J keep his word about never posting here again as he promised.
Don’t hold your breath. He already made it clear that he was not going to honor that promise.
History of 23J’s word suggests you are correct.
Maybe that account idea will work if the money is given to 23J to stay away. After all the CIA gives money to certain groups to not “terrorize” a group of people, and it is a more efficient way to counter terrorism often times.
@claude balls. I wish ..lol ..
If we lose on Sunday, he’ll be here.
@Adam
Rest assure he will be one of the first to post, unlike last week.
Wow. Then you guys wonder why 23jordan is always on your case and then have the audacity to say to him, “oH, I AlwAys IngnOrE Ur POst! You JUsT caN’T KEeP MY NAmE OuT UR moutH.” Enough’s enough already fella’s! You proved your point. While you guys continue to defend Alex (when you don’t have to), why don’t you guys share his mentality:
“I think if we win this game and go to the Super Bowl it will say it in itself. I’m not thinking about that right now. I really feel like winning games as a quarterback this time of year speaks for itself. That’s how you do your talking….”
Alex Smith on the desire to say I told you so.
@el
A promise is a promise.
If you don’t understand that very basic yet important fact, then you need to watch the film “Forrest Gump” a few times until you learn the lesson an idiot can teach.
“A promise is a promise Lt. Dan.”
By the way that movie won a ton of awards and made a ton of mney, so its message was welcome by all.
This keeping promise thing is not some new way of thinking. Senior citizens and 7 year olds all got the message.
And 23J could have phrased things very differently over the past season. In a way that does not go out of the scope of football. Actions have consequences is another very basic and old ideology that I, among many others follow.
Don’t know what you’re talking about. He’s never on my case. He’s not right about Smith, he never has been but I haven’t laid in to him. He has the right to be wrong and put it out there. Personally, I don’t care. He marginalized himself.
But… I can just about guarantee that if we’d lost the Saints game, the one comeback drive (things other QBs have done) would not have been enough to keep him from hating all over Smith with the Jr. Game Manager crap and the “we’re one blah blah blah away from 23 Virgins in Heaven,” BS. The dude’s done it all year, why would he stop now?
The Smithers are in his face just as much as he’d be in theirs. Payback is a b!tch but it’s too much drama for me and I really don’t read the back-and-forth. Don’t much care.
We’re not gonna lose anyway, so it’s a moot point.
Nice attempt Gaup, but I’m afraid it’s falling on deaf ears.
Yeah, Adam. You’re absolutely right, payback is a mofo! 23jordan got his; he crowed, so let’s move on. It’s sad ’cause if we do happen to lose this Sunday (which we’re not), 23jordan is liabel to be back full force in spite of … well, not necessarily you, but everyone else who just don’t know how to move on. Pride begets pride. (and just for the record, my post wasn’t directed towards you, but at DS, Claude, and KT.)
And DS, I’ve watched the movie TONS of times and love it! However, this is not a movie my friend. This is real life. And sometimes, in real life, promises aren’t kept. Bets get welched. The good guy doesn’t always win, and killers get away with murder. Yes, a promise is a promise, a concept myself and my children understand very well, but I also teach my children that things aren’t always sunshine n’ lollypops and handling adversity (e.g when people break their promises) is only half the battle. It’s what you do afterward that shows what you’re truly made of. I teach my children to live in such a way that proves you are, who you say you are. A concept I fully practice and preach.
Piss’n and moanin’ and saying “I told you so”, although it can feel great, is very childish and prideful. Some people seem to not understand this concept. Alex sure does (refer to the quote). I wish I could say that senior citizens and 7 year olds all get this message, but in real life … some don’t. So, if you don’t understand that very basic yet important fact of life, then we live two completely different lifestyles.
I’m sure you’re right, 49erGirl. I think I got my point across …’think I’ll move on mow ;-)
Guapo… I have so many positive expletives to throw your way I’m at a loss for words.
Well said, my friend :-)
@el
Nothing is keeping 23J from breaking his promise. Only himself. Don’t confuse this as some unknown factor coming up, making 23J break the promise.
And if I ever am forced to break a promise I say “Sorry.” Don’t bet on 23J to show such simple manners.
He was asking that YOU stop with the talking about 23J every other post, the nose rubbing and the “I told you so”s and to let it go – had nothing to do with Jordan’s promise.
Of course, I’m wasting keystrokes here…moving on….
And if he doesn’t keep his promise and also doesn’t man up for it? Then what?
That was a rhetorical question, btw.
Thanks 49erGirl :-) I KNEW pick up what I was putting down!
@el
We clearly see life differently.
I put more stock into people finding a way to keep their promises. Hence I don’t much care for many politicians.
I determine who a great person is by whether they are able to keep their promises despite facing all this adversity that you brought up. It is easy to keep your promises in paradise. It is coming thru on your promises despite the barriers one faces in life that makes a person great/nice/dependable/whatever. And if somebody goes around making a ton of promises all the time and never follows them thru, my family does not admire that trait. We call those people BS artists, and they hold no weight in anything with my family.
The lesson I learned from Forrest Gump was that I never want to be out-smarted by an idiot. If an idiot can keep promises, then so can I.
Ever see the movie LA Story El? Steve Martin has a great line:
“All of lifes answers are found in the movies.”
It reasonated with me. Later on I thought one way to determine intellect is by using what one learns watching film at the appropriate time.
Films reflect those who make them and those who watch them. At least that is what my professor said in film study in college. You can take it up with him if you disagree.
“Piss’n and moanin’ and saying “I told you so”, although it can feel great, is very childish and prideful. ”
Yep, I’m with you 100% there. I wish all this nonsense back and forth would stop.
We need those positive vibes back like last week going in to Sunday, not the bickering! Plenty of time to argue in the post season. Now is not the time.
I’m back to being jacked up! Let’s go!!!
Hmmm. Fair enough, DS. Fair enough. All I’m saying is … IF the 9ers win this Sunday or go on to win the Super Bowl, I wanna come on this blog and celebrate with my extended 49ers Faithful family, and not be dampened by post that read to the likes of: “OOOoOOOooooo … in your face 23jordan/49erGirl/mdniner/Bay/etc., I told you so!! Eat it EAT IT!!”
I’m sure there’s plenty of movies that teach lessons in rising above trivial matters. DS, if you take things so personal over the internet, I would hate to see what you’re capable of in person, haha! YIKES! OK. Now. I’m moving on. So in the words of the immortal Forest Gump …. *ahem*
And mdniner?!? Who the hell is that, lol!! Sorry md.
Adam says:
January 19, 2012 at 2:28 pm
If we lose on Sunday, he’ll be here.
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Sad but true. Hopefully Jordan is enjoying this though. It’s telling he’s hardly posted since Smith had the big game.
@DS94everXev
“Maybe Grant can setup some sort of account for KT whereby we can chip in money till the balance reaches $1000, then give it to KT.”
Very thoughtful ..but It’s ok ..just tired of hearing “we’re a qb away from a playoff win” from him.
I’ll put $10,000 monopoly money in an account if someone puts a lease and a muzzle on DS and walks that thing out of here…
meant leash…
What happened to Tim? I haven’t seen him spreading the gospel of Nate Davis, or whomever, in a long time either…
TIM is a “hit and run” poster. Follows the negative regarding our starting QB. Doesn’t come on board when there are positive comments about our QB. lol
By now I have realized that TIM is senile. When he doesn’t take his meds, he gets on the computer and we all see the craziness he types as a result. I’m not making fun of him, so please don’t think that I am. I’m actually being dead serious, I think he is literally insane. You can’t take anything he says seriously.
He seems like a great person and a true 49ers fan, so let him slide.
@Hightop, I’m witcha, forget all this back and firth nonsense of who believes and who doesn’t, who gives us credit and who doesn’t. Bottom line is, we as fans believe and our Niners are one Win away from the SuperBowl baby! I don’t know about y’all but when Veron cried on Sat. I also shed a tear, because I knew that our day would come and it finally did, and here we are hosting the NFC Championship in Candlestick!! Stand up Faithful, stand up!! Let’s goooo Niners!!!!!
What I haven’t seen written in the news seems to be the behind the scenes story about ownership that gambled with 5 million dollars and has placed themselves in a pretty good position to make well over 100 million on that gamble.
Regardless of if the 49ers win or loes this Sunday, the added revenue from making the playoffs is helping a cash strapped city. Now the pressue is being put on the Mayor of San Fransisco to come back to the bargaining table to keep this playoff team in SF. That added to the fact that this teams roster and coaching suggests that this is a playoff team for many years to come, only adds to the pressure.
I looked at the roster and the lack of any high priced names made me think this team was being packaged to sell much like Bain Capital would be doing for its share holders.
Instead, I think the ownership gambled the 5 million for Harbaugh and a few million here or there for some free agents in hopes of buying leverage at the bargaining table.
I suspect the city will be much more inclined to foot a bigger percentage of the bill for a new stadium, now that the team has established it will be competitive for years to come. I expect a bidding war to be started between the two cities with the organization set to reap all the rewards of a small gamble.
Not gonna happen. Entire Niners franchise is located in SC, Joe Montana is building a hotel there, they’ve partnered with 6 Flags, and the Yorks are frothing at the mouth!
The only thing that could stall this now would be SC councilmembers coming to their senses on the $1B they’re about to charge to their city, but that’s as unlikely as ever now…
Love to see it though! PacBell right next to the New Niners Home
Cosell is blind. Alex has made plenty of great throws. the problem hasnt been his ability to make great throws, or even to have great drives: it’s been consistency. but both I and the NFL have learned not to sell Alex Smith short. Alex has delivered on the big stage, under the greatest pressure. a couple more games like this and he’s going to be asking Joe and Steve to make room in Niner Valhalla.
Kind of a double talker, he has lost all type on integrity with me, oh boy Cossel thinks the Niner’s are going to win now. The same with Ira Miller, it was so obvious that he does not follow current football any longer, kind of like Ralph the blow hole leader, or Gary Fatnisch, they can tell you all about the 1980′s back in the Niner’s glory day’s but its embarrassing that they know so little today. They are old and tired.
@Neal
I like the noon to 3 guys the most on KNBR.
The morning guys have never come up with a single interesting analysis on anybody. They just go with the tide providing nothing of interest.
DS, couldn’t disagree more. Those guys are the weakest of the group and that is why they have the weakest time slot. RB is lucky to have the sideline reporter role for the 9ers…adds nothing.
You have the right hof.
But the noon-3 guys bring up things that have made me think a lot more than the morning guys.
Can you recall something the morning guys said that made you think of something new, or “Huh. I never thought of it like that before.”
For me the noon-3 guys do nearly every time I hear them. And I hear the morning crew more often as well. So I should hear more good ideas from them due to that, but never had heard one. And when they are on CSN, they don’t contribute anything interesting.
@DS,
I listen to news talk and music, and also listen to Spanish CD’s in the car, I usually don’t listen to KNBR, unless they have Steve Young, Brian Sabean, Jim Harbaugh as guests, if they are just talking within each other I shot them off.
Gary Radnovich……SUUUUCKS!!!! That guy couldnt name 5 49ers right now. His old war stories with no point are tired and useless. Theres a reason they have been partnering him with others the past year. And he never shuts the F up, so a caller can finish their damn question or opinion. Gaaawd he sucks. And thats all I can listen to at work. But Im not bitter. tee hee
Cut you off once or twice did he?
His line for at least 1.5 hrs is always the same “Name me anybody in any profession who took 6 years to get good.” (referencing AS)
But you’re right. Gary does cut guys off more than not.
@NinerMud and DS,
The entire station has gone bad, you have the Frat boys in the morning, have no clue what Mac does, you sometime over hear him on a interview, Murp is a nice guy but ask the guests the same dumb questions,what is your mom’s signature dish, or today he ask Kruc, if he is the grill miester, what guy is not the grill miester, also Murp has no relationship with Harbaugh on the weekly interviews, I wish they would ask Ted Robinson to do the interviws because it goes much better with questions and answer’s. I don’t like Freddie Krueger, he bashes Lowell all of the time, a total wanna be, Fatnich is horrendoes and old, and does not follow sport’s anymore along with Ralph the blow hole leader. I don’t like Fitz, he is a adventorial for the Warriors because the Warriors pay his salary at KNBR, Brooks is ok, Tolbert knows his sports, and look like a genius next to Ralph Amechi’s pizza suck Barberia. The problem I have with Tolbert, he can’t ask a question under a 1000 words. Damon is good , got to give him his props. Without the Giants that station would have no ratings.
@neal
I hope you meant ninermd.
So, do you listen to some other station, or do you complain about KNBR and still listen to it? Just wondering.
Sorry I did mean Niner MD, sorry doc.
What is the one true measure of greatness for a QB?
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Superbowl rings. Mark my words… Alex Smith will end his career a “greater” QB than Steve Young.
Take it easy…..In my most hispanic voice. ;-)
Pork, I read your earlier post on Young. To be honest, I felt the same way about the Niners cutting Joe loose. Took me a while to get used to Steve, but… eventually he grew on me. I came to enjoy his game and to appreciate him.
The thing about Steve was that he had to try twice as hard to get any respect because he was in Joe’s shadow. Some of the stuff today with Alex Smith is still directly related to Joe. Montana was arguably the best QB of all time. We’re still judging guys based on what we saw Joe do.
Gotta give Steve a break, he did good things for us and he left it all out on the field, that’s all we can ask of any player on this team.
LOL !
I LOVEEE readying Mr. Cosell’s respond! I am so happy for Alex Smith and this organization. finally we have the opportunity to have the right leadership in place to bring back our beloved 49ers back to greatness. GO NINERSSSSSSSSSSSS and ALEX. I want to see a career day for Alex with over 300 yards, 3TDs and over 150 rushing yards for Frank Gore and 2 TDs.
Cosell was completely correct here (and folks, he was praising Alex as much as he prasises anyone). Of course Alex has made some fine throws in seven years of NFL football. But this was the playoffs with forty freaking seconds left in the game – FORTY SECONDS – and the whole season running out, and cool as you can be, Alex threaded the needle perfectly with Vernon on the run to gain FORTY SEVEN yards and then with the game and the season on the line with 14 seconds left, under pressure, got rid of the ball at the exact right time and threw it to the exact right spot. I’ve watched the video of the entire drive and last pass over and over and Cosell made the point that others have missed, yes, the catch was fine, but the THROW was GREAT. When you make the perfect throw, under intense pressure with time running out in the last few seconds of a playoff game and that throw becomes the winning touchdown, folks – it is NOT the same as having made a perfect pass when down 24 – 7 in the third quarter of a regular season game. And by the way, even the short passes on that drive showed great pocket presence as Alex nimbly sidestepped the pressure to complete them.
I believe now… And Alex has just given me the best game I’ve ever seen since Niners/Packers playoff game.
I’ll take this over Cosell and day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg32h7JxvCU
especially that last guy, a true fan. lol multiple times
Cossell has always been correct about this team and Alex. It’s just that some of the fans can’t take the truth and criticism. The guy has never had it out for Alex smith. He just watches the film on teams and players with an unbiased opinion. Alex stunk before harbaugh and now he is getting better every week. It’s always been up to smith to shut the critics up. And that’s what he’s doing now. None of you have a part in that. Some thought and hoped he would be good one day, some didnt. I’m sure none of you were right in everything in life. This team is on the doorstep of the Super Bowl. And we’re still bringing up smith talk? I’d bet my bottom dollar that j23 is smiling somewhere because we are close, even though he was wrong about smith like I was…. I could care less. My team is about to go to the Super Bowl and there isn’t a crow bar on earth that can pry this huge smile on my face. Focus fans. Sunday it goes down and we need all of the voices, eyeballs, ju ju, good luck, superstition, good vibes we need! To send those giants back to NYC. We dat!
Who’s got it better than us!!!?!!!!
MD, you got that right! Focus, is the key.
BTW, GCosell is still a dip!! :)
lol. NOBODY…..
Nobody!!!!!!! lol.
Nice post md
I don’t agree with it all, but it was nicely done none-the-less.
And make sure you make your presence known to all the football world come Sunday! Be sure to hook ribico up with whatever he needs at the stadium. lol
Rib is rollin out? Pole M… If its raining hard that morning we might be doing a tailgate party at my bro in laws house. The wife and sis in law dont like the rain. I have two canopys. Damn women, lol NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINERS!!!! RED RAGS WAIVIN SUPERBOWL CRAVIN……WHEEEW!
Oh yeah.
Search for his name, you will see the post soon enough.
My tickets are under the overhang so no raingear needed (thanks for the offer tho anyway , md ;) Is Candlestick still watertight? lol. If my ride to the stadium parks anywhere near pole M we’ll check you out, if you are there.
SF rain delayed my connecting flight (writing this from Vegas airport). Hopefully it delays the Giant cutbacks too!
@ribico
Is Candlestick water tight?
Yes. It tightly keeps all the water inside. lol
Good post, MD.
Bring the heat on Sunday. You guys are representing the millions out here watching that can’t make it to the game. All that red (and noise) last week made me proud of the team and proud of our fans.
Adam, me too. I don’t want the season ticket holders selling to NYG fans traveling 3000 miles. Need the “Stick” rockin’!!!!
Let’s kick some *ss!
Go 9ers!!!!!!!
I’m glad there were some season ticket holders willing to sell to Niner fans traveling 3000 miles :P
Noooobody!!!!!!!!!
Nice post, MD!!!! ‘Bout time we get fired up for this game !!!!!
I completely agree Ninermd ! Great post !
Cosell is slipping. He only said “tape” twice.
As for the ongoing discussion about “protecting” Smith… Harbaugh’s play calling was “protecting” deficiencies in all phases of the passing game, including wide receivers, pass blocking and quarterback. Of the three elements, quarterbacking (still far from perfect) is the strongest component. The O-line needs to gel and Morgan is missed for more then mentioned.
For example, on the winning TD, if Vernon did not run the route perfectly, the ball would have wound up in the belly of a Saints DB. The passing games takes time to gel, and the receivers are slowly getting better at the route adjustments.
Next year, look out. Smith will have many 300+ games.
I’d like to know at what point we will find out the extent of Gore’s injuries. I saw him walking with a limp the whole game vs New Orleans. That guy is playing on fumes and heart…
… and 1,200 yards in the bank already this year. Must say, pretty impressed with Gore, this coming from a guy who was ready to cut him loose before the season if he didn’t hit camp. Glad he did the right thing, glad Baalke did the right thing, glad Gore will be getting his ring this year before hanging up his gear.
Pork,
There was not one negative comment in my post, yet you have to come at me with a snide comment. That must have been some negative household you grew up in. I’m sure it’s why you are always so cheerful. Listen dude we all know you are a double poster so give it up.
Truth be told, the deal that we signed with Gore was a mistake. We paid big money to a guy who has been injured most of the season. He never ran away from anyone and consistently got caught from behind. He also lacks the quickness to run outside.
Even though he probably won’t play full time beyond this year, we still take the full CAP hit for his entire contract. This will loom large on a team that has several free agents to sign.
Digest that Potkface.
@bay:
Truth be told, the deal that we signed with Gore was a mistake. We paid big money to a guy who has been injured most of the season. … Even though he probably won’t play full time beyond this year, we still take the full CAP hit for his entire contract.
Truth be told, you are wrong. Have you ever actually read about the details of Gore’s contract extension or did you just make up some numbers in your head so that you could write the quoted words?
The contract extension provided Gore with no signing bonus or other up front money. His 2011 salary (the final year of his previous contract) remained unchanged at $4.9 million. The only truly guaranteed money promised to Gore was his 2011 salary, which he already was going to get unless SF cut him before the season started, and his modest $2 million salary for 2012.
The “guaranteed” money for 2013 and 2014 is guaranteed only for catastrophic injury (and only if it occurs prior to the 2013 season) and not for loss of skill or wearing down. If Gore’s production falls below an acceptable level, the team can cut him and he will receive none of the guaranteed money for those years. In addition, much of his money for 2012-2014 is tied to roster and performance bonuses. If Gore doesn’t meet the performance requirements or isn’t on the roster, he doesn’t get the money.
In sum, the Gore contract extension is pretty much risk-free for the 49ers. He only gets the “big money” if he is productive.
Because I know you have an aversion to research, I did it for you:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/02/11/Gores-new-contract-includes-no-risks-for/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=558206&feedID=5936
@ bay:
More research:
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-02/sports/30128087_1_nfl-contract-salary-cap-big-money
And another one:
http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/02/gores-contract-with-49ers-lack-guarantees/
I really want people to keep dogging & hating Alex Smith. Because every time he makes throws like that, or play games like that, or wins like he’s been doing all year…he’s stabbing them right in the heart. I want people to hate this guy even after he helps us win our next series of super bowls. I want people around the NFL to absolutely despise him, to bet against him, to belittle his achievements, disrespect his skills. And when he retires with multiple rings, I hope he backhand slaps every person (with the hand that he wears all of his Super Bowl rings on) right out of his way, just like Bernie Mac in “Head of State” (which, outside of that scene was a terrible movie).
“I really don’t care. I couldn’t care LESS what people say. All I care about is winning.” – Alex Smith
no one talks about the accurate throws that were dropped. and there was alot….i can think of 5 in the end zone that dropped or wr miscues.
NO
Cosell told it like it is once again. Cosell has been telling the truth all season and almost all commentators have agreed with him all season long about Alex.
Alex has become much more decisive in his throws in the last weeks. Alex would not have made those throws earlier in the season,but he is making them now,and that is all that matters !!! Unless Alex takes a step back towards his old usual,it is a great advantage to the team to have a confident QB,who is making plays,to now go along with a great defense and ST’s and great coaching staff!
Things are coming together at the right time for us to hoist the SB trophy for the 6th time !
Keep up the good work Alex !
LOL Ha!!!!! Too funny. Good thing GC admits he was wrong all season.
He admitted that Alex has improved and that Cosell and all the experts were correct at what they said all season long .
For instance,the wheather forcasters were not wrong that there was no rain so far this year,but are also correct that it is raining NOW. They were consiostent in telling the truth,like Cosell and all the experts were correct and still are.
Alex improved and then improved again,and cosell noticed and reported what he sees. As he had done all season long. Right then,right now,…only Alex chamged.
Let’s hope alex continues to grow and make plays ,if he does we should roll into the SB and take no prisoners !
GC in this comment means GCosell!
@MosesZD:
I blame you for this. You had to ruin a perfectly good party by mentioning TIM’s name. Now, TIM thinks he is welcome at the party.
@TIM
It does not matter how many times you repeat the same nonsense, it’s still nonsense. You can say it 1000 times (not that you haven’t), but that does not make it true.
It’s still just TIM nonsense.
claude,
As always, you took the words right out of my mouth (err, keyboard).
ProfootballTalk.com has an interview with Greg Cosell discussing the this weekend’s games:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/20/giants-receivers-hold-the-key/
2 things of interest to me:
1. The PFT Host (Greg Rosenthal) referred to the first 49ers-Giants game and said that after reviewing the tape, he was impressed with Alex Smith’s play. Said that Smith made no mistakes and was accurate. Cosell appeared to agree and said that Smith was “very efficient” in that game.
Was Cosell that complimentary of Smith the week after the game?
2. In discussing the 49ers-Saints game, Cosell essentially repeated what he said in the KNBR interview. But this time I picked up on something that I should have noticed in the transcript above, but didn’t. Cosell made the point that while Smith’s successful execution of the game-winning TD pass would give him and Harbaugh confidence that Smith can make any throw any time, the difficulty of that play indicated that the 49ers already had such confidence in Smith. Essentially, Harbaugh would not have called that play, with a makeable field goal available, unless he was confident that Smith could make that difficult throw.
So maybe now we can stop with the nonsense that the 49ers’ game plans are conservative because Harbaugh doesn’t trust Alex Smith.
c-balls – Thanks for the link!
In Alex we trust!
Crab, absolutely! Would love to see the AS to MC connection for two tds this week and a WIN!!
Hofe – I think we need a few more plays designed for Bruce Miller.
Remember that brilliant 30 yard TD vs the Skins?
This guy is healthy again and he’s more than just an outstanding blocker! Thanks for the C-Tree love Hofe!
Did you see C-Tree’s presser today? It’s definitely not his gig.
I’m tellin you Hofe, Bruce Miller can be the X factor! Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!
Crab, I’m with you – I do remember that play. How about a formation with both FG and KH in the backfield? I guess at this point the coaches are going to go with plays that brought them to the party and not try to get too cute. lol
That’s a great idea Hofe! KH & FG in backield together for one play. That would cause confusion!
@Claude
That’s a great point! That was an extremely difficult throw, and they called that play pretty quickly. There wasn’t any debating about if they could execute, no trickery, just a shot from the hips! And based on the confidence that the team showed that whole drive (both drives) was that they had trust all along.
I have not seen any of those fans you mention say that Kaep should replace Alex this season or this game. They all have said that Alex has the stability and experience and gives us the best chance to win NOW. The future may be a different story,unless Alex continues to make strides. We will see how it all unfolds. Maybe alex will and maybe he won’t,but I am sure that all those you mentioned are reveling in the fact that alex is doing well and we are winning.
@Tim
They have.
Thanks Tim, you are correct. I am excited to see what Alex will do on Sunday!!! (Btw, TuckSucks is obviously a double poster.)
DS – you’ll have to back that up with some proof..please find a quote where I specifically said that Kaep should start in place of Alex this year. (Hint: It doesn’t exist)
I’m more excited to see what the WR’s do.
“Btw, TuckSucks is obviously a double poster”
It’s the “erin rodgers cheesecrotch, poop” dude that got banned already.
Wish this disturbed fellow would go grab that hihihihih guy and go on vacation somewhere – permanently.
Adam,
Thank heavens that mentally defective hihihihi character disappeared. let’s hope this cheesecrotch/poop/whatever kid does the same, and takes bbthekitty and the rest of the cancers with him, but I’m not holding my breath.
@Adam
How do you know Mr. Crotch is banned?
@lsx
!all posted earlier today.
DS, are you serious?
Lord help us all.
@LSX
Adam replied to him. He (!all) is one of those who I skip. Useless trash is all (haha) that comes out of him.