The Niners are a “team to monitor” in the Tim Tebow trade talks, according to Adam Schefter. Chris Mortensen also confirmed the Niners as a front runner.
The rumor is Tebow costs nothing more than a fifth or a sixth round pick. If Baalke can get Tebow for that paltry price, he should do it and here’s why.
Besides sucking on third downs, the Niners offense sucks in the red zone and in short yardage situations, too. Tebow is one of the best red zone and short yardage players in the NFL. At the very least, he could be an upgrade over Anthony Dixon as the Niners goal line running back.
At the most, he could be the 49ers red zone QB if Alex Smith continues to struggle there.
Trading for Tim Tebow would be a cheap and effective way to improve the Niners offense in a couple critical areas – that’s why Baalke’s got to pull the trigger.
This doesn’t preclude Alex Smith. They wouldn’t necessarily be in conflict. They do different things. They could compliment each other.
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NO!
this. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
No kidding. VERY bad idea. The guy is an option QB plain and simple. He’s a horrible passer. Improve the red zone? My grandmother could improve the red zone. Besides, what does he do that Kapernick doesn’t do? Last I heard Kap was a pretty good scrambler/runner and had a rocket for an arm. Bringing in Tebow would do nothing but say to Kap, we’re not interested in you, as well. No, if Smith doesn’t sign, then they may look for a Vet to compete for a starting role but odds are Kap will be the starter. But, Smith will sign. He’s got nowhere else to go. The season doesn’t start for a couple months with OTAs so there’s time if Alex wants to drag this out. Face it, the “only” reason he would do this is to make a point. He wants to be here and it’s his only real option. So get over it and get signed.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The next Steve Young with the right quarterback coach. Do we know any great QB coaches???
No, for the love of God, please no!
+100
But what about the impact on Colin Kaepnick? I think Kaep is Tebow with a much more superior arm and more polished QB skills. Why slow Kaep’s progression by bringing in a similar player?
Cheap competition. Tebow is an elite goal line player.
So is Tebow competition for CK at the goal line then? What does that mean? How much faith would they have in CK if they brought in another high profile QB (very young and raw like him)?
No logic here. If you bring in Tebow, you dump CK. You don’t dump AS and keep both CK and Tebow.
“elite”? Oh Please…..
Grant…
I think you need to get some sleep. Thank god you will never be a GM because this team would become a circus. Tebow’s circus would just add to this firestorm and besides CK7 could do the exact same thing.
CK could not do the exact same thing. Tebow is a unique player.
49ers playing with fire on the Tebow talk. Watch the Browns make a play for Alex!
It’s too much for my brain to handle in one week.
Great analogy, only problem here is that Tebow wants to play QB not FB or RB.
……how his he cheap…isnt he getting 1st round $$$……its a trade so we still get to pay his salary….
Screw Kaepernick, what about the aging veteran defenders? Why does no one but jordan think about them?
Who are you worried about being “old” on defense? We have good/young back-ups at every single defensive position.
@Mike:
No one. I was just mocking another poster who seriously argued that the 49ers needed to consider their “aging veteran defenders” when deciding on whether or not to bring back Smith.
That said, I would love it if the team spent an early draft pick on one of the many quality defensive linemen available in the draft. Justin Smith is not getting any younger, and there are likely to be high value players available at 30 and even at 62.
I do agree that you can never have enough depth on your O or D lines. I think the team is REALLY high on RJF, Dobbs, and Ian Williams but having another youngster doesn’t hurt.
I second that – no!!!!!
All right grant! You done takin it too far now! Lol
Grant,
If I may channel John McEnroe, “You cannot be serious!” Provocative as always but, seriously?
The Niners need more cheap, good players on offense, especially in the red zone. Tebow is one of the best red zone players. The Niners are “a team to monitor” for a reason. Baalke is savvy. He spots the bargain.
Grant: I see where you are coming from regarding Tebow’s success in the red zone, but can’t they do the same types of things by just inserting Kaepernick? He can run just as good as Tebow, and is a better thrower.
Tebow is a bona fide full back when he runs. No QB can lower his shoulder like Tebow. The Niners wouldn’t want Kaepernick risking his body that way. Tebow could be a monster gadget player for Roman.
Imagine if Tebow took Anthony Dixon’s carry in the NFC championship game.
Imagine if Dixon does not stumble and get tripped?
I can imagine a lot of things.
What if AS does not get a TD on that run (gets tackled at the 4) against the Saints? And the Niners get a holding penalty on 1st down, followed by a sack on 1st and goal from the 14? Now it is 2nd and goal at the 19. Then what happens?
Grant: Again I see where you are going, I just don’t see them bringing the guy in. It automatically becomes a circus and I would rather them use Kaepernick in that same situation, he is quick and makes that play too. Heck, they used Smith to run read option plays at times last year including the NFC Championship game.
It’s already a circus.
Tebowmania is a whole new level of media attention. Circus isn’t a big enough word.
After the title game, how was the Niner team a circus?
This circus you are referring too is all nascent. You don’t reach the NFC title game and lose it in OT if you have a circus all year.
The circus is the media and how the Niners handled themselves. Getting Tebow won’t get the circus to leave town.
Last I read Denver wanted a 2nd and 5th for him. That’s expensive. And I wouldn’t want us giving up that much for him, when we need to invest a little more in frontmen on both sides of the ball, WR, and a stout RB (Gore successor- Let’s face it, Dixon is a special teams player and Hunter , while I think he is a great back, is not an every down guy). I think Tebow would be an “anything for the team” type guy, but he’s not going to want to be a RB. But if we can get him for a sixth, that’s intriguing. That said, who eats his first round contract, Denver/SF or both?
Not according to Mike Freeman: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/17922352/interest-in-tebow-increasing
Says it will be for a fifth or a sixth rounder. Bargain.
Ok. So based on that article, if he’s traded who pays the rookie tender? And if he’s released, then it would seem that Denver pays it and moves on???
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Shefter tweets:
Scratch SF from teams that could trade for Tim Tebow, add Miami. Candidates currently include JAX, GB, MIA, maybe more. A trade will happen.
You have officially taken leave of your senses! You have come up with some pretty lame ideas, but this one takes the cake. No way in hell should the niners go after Tebow!!!!!
My head just imploded
If you bring in Tim Tebow, the 49ers vault ahead significantly. BUT, it will quickly become a situation of having to put Alex Smith behind him. The “Tebow Phenomenon”, as Elway calls it, is so massive that no matter how much the Broncos would love to keep Tebow, and they would, even with Peyton Manning, they can’t have them together. As it has been talked about in Denver over and over, the first interception Manning throws, the outcry to bring in Tebow would be overwhelming.
I can’t see the Bay Area becoming Tebowmaniacs like Denver did.
Grant, how did you end up being a “fathered” in reporter for a small publication…. obviously your talents at being a GM for an NFL franchise are being wasted…
bhwhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Tebow… “elite”!!
bwhahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaah
what a joke.
Grant,
Tebow transcends football when it comes to fandom. He has a religious following that is very vocal and I would want no part of the soap opera that played out in Denver, where they were pretty much forced into starting a guy who can’t play.
Tebow has his positives. As you said he is a good runner, he is a good kid, hard worker etc, but he’s a lousy QB and he has no interest from what I’ve read previously, in a position change or being a situational player. This would be so bad for so many reasons.
Just say no to Tebow.
The Niners would never get forced into playing Tebow more than they wanted to. The Niners coaching staff has just as much horse power as the Packers and the Patriots – two other teams that are interested in trading for Tebow.
It creates more problems than it solves Grant. Tebow just brings too much off the field crap to be worth trading for. Watching what Elway went through last year was brutal.
The fans pressured them relentlessly, they had to play him knowing he was a one trick pony and Elway was desperate to do anything to get him out of there. I want no part of it for this team.
That wouldn’t happen in San Francisco. Bay Areans aren’t zealots like that – they would’t fall for the right-wing Tebow like Denver did. No fans will pressure the Coach of the Year to do anything he doesn’t want to do, and if the Executive of the Year trades for Tebow on the cheap, most Niner fans will call him brilliant.
Grant,
I wouldn’t call him brilliant. I’d call him a Masochist.
This is joke. I used to think highly of your writing. Anti-Alex, your salty dad is anti-Harbaugh…….I hear the Raider Nation needs more hacks with mediocre skills.
WOW… I can’t believe you are serious.
Man, wish they would take you off 49erstweets. I’m done reading.
I agree its nuts but Grant isnt the only one reporting this rumor.
He wasn’t merely reporting it. He was strenuously pushing for it.
He is opening a discussion for us to comment on. I appreciate Grant’s input
He was opening a discussion for us to comment on. I appreciate Grant’s input.
Think of the possibilities. The ramifications. The fallout. Oh the fun we’ll have.
Just another Tebow Tuesday…
Interesting idea. Can Tebow catch the ball in the Red Zone, too? An OC could have fun inventing two-QB sets for Alex and Tim.
I hope the front runner reports are as valid as the Niners being the front runners in getting Manning. The Tebow gimmick offense last year will go the way of the wildcat.
Barrows has already posted this so Grant is not alone!
Your articles are consistently garbage. Do us all a favor,please stop reporting on the 49ers.
Grantt is just reporting what 49er news he gets and giving his opinion as well. It’s nothing for him to feel bad about. Grant, you and might not always agree(like in this case), but I appreciate yout articles and blog. Keep it up.
Thanks, MidWestNiner. I always enjoy your comments.
No problem Grant. I’m not fond of the idea, but it does have merit. Putting Smith and Tebow on the field at the same time would confuse an opposing defense. Will they throw or run? Who will throw or run? It would open up more options on offense.
The Niners offense needs as many cheap options as possible now that Manning isn’t coming.
You just had to go there with Manning, didn’t you? LOL.
Having Tebow on the team would give the 49ers the ultimate hybrid player. I like that idea. You’ve convinced me Grant.
If this is your idea of an article, then you need to start reading less garbage and more actual articles. Nothing Grant has posted the last 2 weeks have been articles. This is just a blog to talk about scenarios.
It’s the offseason. Scenarios are a part of the landscape. Don’t believe me jsand? Look at the draft: it’s Scenario City.
uhhh yeah and that doesn’t change the fact that this isn’t an article This isn’t even pretending to be an article. Good point though..
Prior to last season Alex Smith and the 49ers had an excellent red zone offense. It has more to do with play calling than anything else…Tebow is not the answer. And on 3rd downs Tebow was one of the worst, there was talk of bringing in Quinn on 3rd downs.
What do you think the QB guru/savant/savior – Coach Harbaugh – could do with Tebow, a QB who essentially just had his first full year of football, lead his team to a playoff win, all while having inconsistency issues with coaches adjusting his mechanics?
How can AS or any of the Niner QB’s be good in the red zone if they don’t play?
The red zone is the hardest part of the field to move the ball. All the defenders are bunched in. You can’t really spread the defense out at all. No matter how fast your WR’s may be.
So, the plan is to be ok to dump the guy who got us to the NFC title game, and get the project 2′nd year QB in there, and then to put Tebow in red zone situations?
How does that help anybody? CK won’t get better by not playing in the redzone. I can guarantee you that. And if you are going to put Tebow and CK in at once, which RB are you taking out? Or TE? Not VD you’re not. Which WR?
It helps the team by putting a better red zone/goal line player in the game.
@Grant
At whose expense?
If your plan yesterday comes thru and the Niners don’t bring back AS, and you have CK as the starter, how does CK learn the ins and outs of scoring in the redzone if Tebow has the ball?
Maybe you have Tebow, CK, Tolzein compete for the starter job in camp. Then go with whomever won. And keep that QB in the game the WHOLE time.
Tebow is nothing next to a running back. Tebow played in the weak defensive AFC West. He comes here and plays 4 games against Seattle and AZ D…he won’t be coming back in year 2 of his contract.
I think your next blog Grant should be a summation of how you would have the Niners be (Grant’s vision of the 2012 Niners you can title it). Because right now, nothing is making any sense getting little tid-bits here and there.
Who cares what player ets taken out for Tebow? did you watch the broncos at all last year when he ran the ball? This isnt the craziest idea in the world. No one said Tebow was replacing the starting QB or 2nd in line. Hell be a better Michael Robinson.
Elite … Tebow same sentence? Umm…no. Redzone because he ran it in Alex doesn’t run because niners run up the middle 3x in a row. Pretty sure any pure option QB can be “elite” in the .
Grant- do you think there is no chance they convert tebow into a fullback? I think the guy is much better physically than Miller. He would excite me if he lined up in the backfield a hand full of times a game and ran a couple wheel routes.
Is there anything that tebow could really say if the niners converted him?
He would do whatever Harbaugh told him to do. He’s only set to earn $1.1 million this season.
much better physically than miller??. first look at their weight an height an then go look at the plays they made last season an try to say that again
Tebow averages 5.4 yards per carry. Bruce Miller averages 2 yards per carry. He’s not a good running back, but Tebow is.
You’re quickly losing credibility with the masses Grant. Bruce Miller killed it last year… and comparing their numbers isn’t fair or even close. Tebow ran out of shotgun on every down… Miller ran the ball in Goal line situations when the D was stacked to stop a 3 and inches.
Miller ran the ball four times last season. Roman showed very little confidence in him as a runner. Anthony Dixon was the short yardage back – he got 29 carries. Roman didn’t seem confident in him, either. Tebow fills a big-time need.
@Grant
The whole offense is different when the RB runs the ball as opposed to the QB doing a run by design. And Miller did well Grant.
You are looking at stats WAY too much here. Miller played well and was a LB in college I believe. He improved all year. You want to get rid of Miller? Can Tebow block game after game? As a FB, you are not the center of the universe anymore. In fact, you are likely the least thought of player on a football team, certainly the offense.
Do you see Tebow being ok with not being the Center of the Universe?
No, Miller did barely anything AS A RUNNER. Four carries, eight yards. Good blocker, though.
Yes, I see Tebow being OK with playing a gadget role for an elite team. He’s not a bad guy, I don’t understand why everybody hates him.
We don’t hate him but we don’t believe he makes this a better team. I don’t believe he outplays Dixon run for run unless it’s a trick gadget play. The benefit to me doesn’t justify the amount of baseless media attention this will create. Last years motto was the magic… fly under the radar… grind out wins and build a bully. This circus is getting way out of hand.
Dixon averaged 3.3 yards per carry on 29 rushes last season. Tebow averaged 5.4 yards per carry on 122 rushes. There’s really no comparison.
Grant
What FB has a great average/rush? Count all of them. Then count all the QB’s who have good average/rush numbers.
Compare the two.
FB’s are not measured by average/carry.
of course Miller barely ran the ball. We have FG and KH,and Miller WAS playing as a defensive player the year before. Why on earth would you give Miller the ball? Last time I cheeked, offensive players get the whole 3 (or 5) points of pressure to prevent fumbles, and work on it all the time. Defensive players spend the same amount of time learning how to tackle.
Add up all the time Miller has spent carrying a football vs. any offensive non-OL player (played offense in college the whole time) has in his life up to year 2 of their NFL career, and I bet the difference is laughable.
AHHHH-
The best 49er type fullback was Tom Rathman. The guy could elude guys and was tough to bring down. He played at 6-1 230. Miller is 6-2 250 and slow. Tebow is 6-3 240 and QUICK.
Miller was a servicable blocker, but the guy wasn’t a runner. Just like Grant said. I think Tebow could be very good running and catching fullback
and by the way- the niners carried two fullbacks last season with norris and miller. Miller and tebow can be on the same 53 man squad
Not trying to pick an argument…
“Dixon averaged 3.3 yards per carry on 29 rushes last season. Tebow averaged 5.4 yards per carry on 122 rushes. There’s really no comparison.”
Really no comparison??? Dixon ran the ball when the D knew it was coming on short yardage situations. Tebow was running out of Shotgun in wildcat schemed plays or when he saw daylight and took off. Grant.. I understand your stance but please stop using baseless stats to back your claim.
Those are not baseless stats. Teams always knew Tebow was running but they still couldn’t stop him. Who cares if he runs from the shotgun – it works.
The defenses knew that Tebow was always going to run the ball. Are you serious?
Teams completely stacked the box to stop him.
@Grant
If Tebow works and AS does not, then how come the Broncos didn’t make the AFC title game?
AS did something no other Championship QB could have done to get into that game.
Run for 27 yard TD, then throw that perfect pass to VD.
EM, TB could not have ran that TD
Flacco could not have thrown that TD
Only AS could have done both. Among the top 4 teams, AS was the better overall weapon running and passing.
It’s really not an either or situation. Harbaugh and Roman should be creative enough to figure out plays to get them both on the field. If Smith continues to stink in the red zone, and he may improve, but if he continues to stink then you can experiment with Tebow at QB near the goal line. Harbaugh did that at Stanford. He took Luck out near the goal line sometimes to run designed quarterback runs with the backup.
How well did that thought process work out for the Steelers in the playoffs? The point is that if Tebow is willing to take the role, he would be a great gadget player.
@Grant
How good were those defenses against the run?
Remember the Oakland game in Oakland? Once Tebow crossed the LOS, nobody was around him! Because the played man-man all the time, the secondary had their backs turned. Tebow had a million yards of free real estate.
Keep that game in mind when talking about Tebow’s great average.
P.S The Raiders are the worse run defense like ever the past decade. They suck. And Denver/Tebow gets to play them twice.
Also keep in mind that Tebow did not start all year long, and if the Denver schedule was like the Niners (and most were) where they play their divisional games the last half of the year, the AFC West teams don’t scare very many defensively.
My last post is my response to Benny.
At whose expense does Tebow come in?
DS,
It doesn’t matter how those defenses were against the run. What matters is that Tebow brings a different flavor to the 49er offense if he is willing to not just be a QB.
DS,
The answer is Dixon. Tebow would be able to do so much more than Dixon can. The offense would be a bigger threat.
I emphatically disagree with both points Midwest.
1. If Tebow comes in as a RB, he is going to be treated as a RB. No more BS protect the QB rules. Tebow may be this tough QB (not at all convinced that AS is not equally tough) who can run, but next to FG (an actual RB) Tebow is nothing. He’s never taken a pounding like FG has near the goal line. No QB has.
As a RB you have to find/pick your hole, get small as you go thru it and explode out of it. Tell me where Tebow is at doing any of those things. Is Tebow leaping 2 meters in the air from a standing still position to get over the pile?
2. If we are playing fantasy with CK suddenly showing enough to start as QB now without taking any real snaps in practice, then why can’t we play fantasy with Miller? Why can’t Miller become a great running FB/RB now? I mean Miller played outside LB. Last time I checked, those guys can move fast.
I doubt Tebow is really any faster or stronger than Miller. And toughness? That goes to the LB.
what was AS rushing stats last year
OUT OF YOUR FLIPPIN MIND!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BAALKE. DONT TRADE FOR TEBOW. HE COMPLETELY SUCKS!!! THIS IS A JOKE. With the Manning debacle and the problems we’re now having with Smith and now this Tebow garbage. I am gonna wake up from this nightmare very soon i hope.
This is turning into a complete CIRCUS! Alex…please sign and let’s get on with it!
Please, just sign Alex. Make these rumors and speculation all stop! It is hurting My trust in Harbaugh!
I am losing faith in Baalke everyay that goes by.
stop. just stop. these articles are getting ridiculous now. in 6 months press democrat went from a reliable credible source for niners info to the place to go for all 49er speculation. no
I wholeheartedly agree!!! Please just stop!
“As the world turns’ reality show?Jeez ,seriously, maybe as gadget play guy or as competition for Dixon at RB- can’t help but think this will add to mixed feelings from Alex!
I think Tebow is an upgrade over Colin K. no doubt – if Smith leaves, I would not be surprised to see #15 on the field. For that matter, even if Alex does remain in SF, as many have said, Tebow would make a great red zone addition.
Let me fix that. i am losing faith in Harbaugh and Baalke everyday that goes by. Smith sign and sign a RG and thats it. No more of this complete BS. I’m sick of it.
Oh God.
I’m agreeing with Fred P. Soft!
Maybe you’re right after all ribico.
ok now i’ve got to call a halt to all this poppycock :-)
Adding a guy with LESSER passing skills than Alex or Kaep to the roster is a step in the wrong direction. We need a guy who can make hay out of Manningham, Moss, and whoever is still on our WR roster come game time. Plus, adding a third guy with a cult following, who would be utilized as the NFL equivalent of a novelty act (“lets bring in the run-pass option beast, because we dont trust our own QB!”) just confuses the whole QB situation beyond reason.
I wish Tebow well, i think he exemplifies a certain spirit which is fascinating to watch, but i hope he takes his talents to South Beach…would provide an interesting contrast to the other talents there, both on the field and off it!
gimme some numbers and maybe i’ll think about it. i get the “short yardage back” stuff with tebow but alex was one of the best qb’s in the redzone with jimmy raye calling the plays. i blame redzone struggles on the coaching staff
This one should unite the Smithers and Haters.
NO!
@ribico
It won’t now that you brought it up. Sad, but I doubt it.
We’ll see though.
Ribico
The split may not be Smither vs. Niner Fans (as you indicated), but rather Christian vs Atheist (or somthing like that)
You shouldn’t go there at all Nick. Bad call.
Plenty of posters have brought excellent reasons why this fantasy is way, way out there in purely football terms.
But I agree with you Nick, for maximum ongoing media hysteria, Tebow should head to a red state city.
Come on Grant. Tebow… Harbaugh doesn’t like media attention. He caved in in that regard with Randy Moss. Tebow would be gimmicky and be a distraction. If they wanted to run option plays in the redzone and capitalize on mobility, they would use CK if he wasn’t already starting.
This pretty much spells out the Smith situation…
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Business-is-so-personal-for-Smith-49ers?blockID=673416&feedID=2539
You shouldn’t compare Kaepernick to Tebow. Tebow could be a great gadget player in this offense, and Harbaugh doesn’t seem to mind media attention any more.
People hear Tebows name and automatically freak out before giving this a thought. Theres no way we get him as a QB. HE will be a Michael Robinson type of player and maybe someone who can challenge Dixon, who has not lived up to his hype.
Tebow wants to play QB, not FB, HB, TE or toy soldier. This idea that he will HAPPILY come in and do what Harbaugh tells him, if it doesn’t involve being the starting QB, is pure fantasy.
I don’t think you are understanding the can of worms bringing this guy in would open.
He’s not a diva. You think he’d complain to the media? I highly doubt it. He’d say all the right things. He wants to win.
Tebow isnt a problem in the locker room. Im pretty sure hell be whatever JH wants him to be
Grant,
No I don’t think Tebow would complain to the media, but Tebowmaniacs would. He wouldn’t be happy is the bottom line, and if you watched how this saga played out in Denver last year, you’d see it’s a no win situation for the team if it gets to the point it did there.
Elway is paying Manning 96 mill for 5 years and it’s not only because Manning is a great player. It’s because the only way the Broncos can rid themselves of Tebow is to bring in a huge name.
@Bay
That’s a nice article. In the words of Tebow, Smith should ‘pray to god’ that he still has an offer on the table from the Niners. With a stud D, excellent special teams, and solid coaching staff to carry him, this seems like a no brainer.
What a joke.. You have the worst articles
Grant, you’re losing it. Anybody but Smith, then hey?
Offenses where you have a QB by committee don’t work. That’s more harmful then helpful. You know this.
Your articles seem less about thought provoking analysis and more about provoking. You present the one side, which isn’t even thoroughly thought out, and let the people get up in arms in your comments section. This kind of journalism leaves something to be desired.
Nothing’s keeping me here though, right? See ya around.
If it weren’t for Alex Smith this blog would be non-existent. Grant needs Alex like Alex needs Harbaugh
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the right draft pick (Price) I don’t have a problem with it. I can see situations were Tebow can be in there with Alex, now you have QB/Running-back that can throw or run the ball. Could cause problems for defenses. I’m sure Harbaugh could come up with plays that would give teams things to think about with that line up. Besides we really don’t have any say to what the 9ers do or who they get.
This is the worst idea I have ever seen and I can’t believe a real sports writer would support bringing Tebow to SF. This is plain disgusting, and I know the fans will revolt of this ever comes to fruition.
Scenario: Kaep as #1 QB. Tebow Time as TE, FB, occasional Wildcat. Alex Smith, well, Alex is not in this scenario.
Good call, that scenario can work.
Tebow has to be willing to give up his future as a QB. Don’t see it happening.
3 huge missteps by Harbaalke in a row. Get stiffed on Manning, piss off alex and he may not sign with us, and now going after the 2nd worst QB in the game right behind Blaine Gabbert. I dont have mych faith left in the FO.
Ahh did someone piss off wittle Alex? How can anyone seriously be pissed off at the guy who provided success for his inept #1 pick ass? Besides he has millions in the bank. Get over it.
Mr Soft, take it easy. Alex Smith is an adult, I’m sure he can handle these things. Let’s see how he handles competition.
No
I don’t care how young you are, you keep putting that defense on the field with 3 and outs and they will age prematurely. Imagine how good the defense could be with consistent drives and actually converting 50% of your 3rd downs. Releasing the Tebow for a 6th round draft pick is a no brainer.
Thank you. A flat out no brainer.
Grant, this is not very well thought out. You over simplify things. There is a domino effect here. What about his salary. Do you even know what that is and how that fits for a situational player? Who’s spot does he take on the roster? The cons far exceed the gains here. This is a sure formula for disaster when it come to building a championship team. Give us one example of when this has ever worked in the past.
@razor
The Niners D was playing for something like almost a full games worth of time (50-60 minutes) in 2011 compared to 2010.
They were fresher at the end of Game 16 last year than they were in 2010.
With a good draft and if things go well in FA, we will be better on offense without removing AS who lead us to 6 comeback wins. Maybe we get another 50-60 minutes more offensive time possession in 2012.
You are kidding right???right??/
Great you want a QB that is even more inaccurate than Alex Smith?
At least Smith can read NFL Defenses (albiet a little slowly) and run a Pro Style Offense (he’s run at least 5 different ones).
Grant you seem stuck on pinning ALL OF THE NINER’S OFFENSIVE PROBLEMS ON SMITH. While those that look deeper at the Niner’s offensive problems, believe that Smith is only a fraction of the problem and probably not the biggest problem….(you never addressed my comments about this subject in your post about going with Kaepernick as the starter). Yours is a SIMPLISTIC analysis of stats with little football analysis. It’s the easy and lazy thing to do to simply blame all of the Niner’s Offensive problems on Smith. As I stated yesterday’s post, I’m not saying Smith is a great QB and I have no problem with upgrading over him if a solution presents itself…..like if Kapernick, Tolzien…maybe Josh Johnson out play him…I’d be the first to say to pull Smith from the starting line up but I wouldn’t simply blindly hope that any solution like Kaep, Tebow…etc.. .is an automatic upgrade over Smith (because I don’t SIMPLISTICALLY pin all of the Niner’s offensive problems on Smith).
No. Tebow’s worth a sixth round pick, and he would improve the Niners offense immediately.
so you advocate putting in a situation QB in the red zone? i can only think of one time that has happened; Bill Walsh did that with Montana to build his confidence.
I’m not sure that swapping of personnel is the best efficient and cohesive play calling. And if they were going to do that, why not just throw in Kapernick as the red zone QB to build his confidence since he’s supposedly the “QB of the future”. The Niners could also sign Josh Johnson as a “gadget QB” too…who probably has more upside potential as an NFL passer than Tebow. Johsnson would be much cheaper too…you could get Johnson for the veteran minimum. Remember in a trade you pick up that player’s contract and though not huge, Tebow is earning a 1st rounder (mid 20′s pick I believe) salary in it’s 3rd year.
allforfunnplay may have a point.
Tebow’s salaries for 2012-14 are:
2012: $1.942.5 million (fully guaranteed)
2013: $2.266.75 million (fully guaranteed)
2014: $2.590.5 million ($567,500 guaranteed)
See http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_15667056
Note: There is something in the report about his 2011-14 salaries being reduced in view of an advance payment in 2011. Does anyone know if that advance payment was made or if Tebow’s contract has been restructured since he signed it?
I doubt they restructured Tebow’s contract or paid him anymore money upfront last year to save on money this year (for one that might have tripped up the NFL agreement that landed the Cowboys and Redskins in trouble…though it’s probably relatively not a huge amount of money we’re talking about). But even more importantly, remember the Tebow started out as the 3rd string QB last year and the Bronco’s front office was never sure of him so they would not have restructured his contract (which usually requires deferring money to later and thus a longer term financial commitment).
No Alex Smith, no Tim Tebow…. Enough of these un-natural nfl qbs from the pathetic urban myer offense which basically ensures a qb is a scrub in the pros. No garbage alex, no garbage tebow, lets get a qb that can see the field and get rid of the ball quick.
How ’bout Peyton Manning? Oh, wait…. That news slipped my mind. I have a slippery mind.
Bringing a player to the city more of his fans perceive as a gay gommorah than a football destination might fun though. Purely for the exploding-head aspect.
Grant you’ve been playing Madden too long. Please put down the controller and walk away slowly… lol
Grant is right… Tebow is a better back than Bruce Miller and Anthony Dixon. Does this mean we should sign Tebow? NO! We need to draft a fullback. C’mon Grant!
Yes a no-brainer. You have no brains if you think we should trade an actual draft pick for this guy. He’s horrible. This is crazy. No way this guy should even look at a 49er uniform.
Why are all you guys squealing like little bi0tches? 9ers are not interested in Tebow to be a starter at QB. The 9er org trend for this year has been to acquire versatile players, which Tebow is. He can be used in redzone, shortyardage fullback, and bench warmer. I just hope Tebow doesn’t bump Tolzien off the roster.
Can’t imagine Smith or Kap would like the idea of tebow breathing down their collective backs. In addition, you are essentially telling the two that you have zero confidence in them. I beleive in his 2nd year in this system, Smith, (if he signs) he will improve in the 3rd down and red zone areas. Not a bad idea Grant, I personally just wouldn’t be in support of it.
They could cut Tebow if it didn’t work out.
… and pay him his “guaranteed” money? Based on the information just posted that might be expensive.
With all this interest, why wouldn’t it take more than a sixth round pick to get him? Also, in Florida he would sell tickets and probably pay off his contract in increased gate receipts.
I have no problems with Bruce Miller. Miller wasnt 6-25 for 96 yards and 2 int’s every game .
Yeah for a 6th no problem, however Tebow sees himself as a starting QB and he is not going to want to play in situational times. It makes sense for him to go to Jacksonville or Miami where he is loved regardless of his skill set. I would rather have Kap run our 3rd down & goal line offense…it cannot be worse than what it is with A.S.
Worst idea ever and you have totally lost all credibility. Seriously?!?!?! Tim F’n Tebow on the 49ers is a god damn nightmare!!!
NO. Absolutely not. I’d rather get kicked in the nuts, than watch tebow on the 49ers…
You will not go into camp with 4 QB’s and 4 RB’s on the roster. So Tolzien will get cut and so will anthony Dixon possibly.
Who says? 4 QBs and 4 or more RBs in training camp is common.
For the love of God (irony?)… please no Tebow! ARGH!
Use him as a red zone QB? 9ers have had one bad year of red zone play. In the several seasons proceeding last, wasn’t Alex one of the BEST performers in the league in the red zone (he just sucked everywhere else)? Something ridiculous like 100+ passes with no ints and a high TD percentage from 20 yards-in? Why wouldn’t a second year in the current system and a full off-season improve that statistic? Especially with several shiny new targets to play with?
Tebow as a wildcat QB? Wouldn’t/shouldn’t CK7 be just as effective in that situation (albeit more of an outside threat than the inside) AND a more likely passing threat? Yet, how often did we use that option last season (zero)?
Now, with all that having been said – if he wants to come in as a pure runner (which I hear he doesn’t), then I’m all for it. The guy’s a beast when he puts his head down… but that’s the only way I’d support his signing (like anyone would care how I felt about it! haha)
I’ll never read another article written by you. You lost all credibility with this one
i’m fairly certain that out redzone offense really took off in the last few weeks of the regular season and on into the playoffs. the redzone offense is the last part of the offense to be implemented so it was practiced and worked on the least. it was really clicking in the end.
unless you want to sign tebow to hold hands with JH & AS during counseling sessions he needs to stay the heck away.
If you made Tebow a fullback maybe! But I don’t think he’s going for that. One of the posters already mentioned we have Kapernick for that if we want to do that.
He has no say in the matter, and Kaepernick is not the kind of player who runs up the middle.
I think thats the point. Make him a hybrid FB. All these people on here like to scream and yell first, before they actually think
THIS IS INSANE!
Agreed that they need to shore up 3rd down and goal line production, BUT, this is not the way to do it!!! We don’t need Tebow and his traveling circus coming to town!!!
I am not a Smith hater, nor am I a Smith backer, I’m a realist… Alex Smith gives the Niners the best chance to win in 2012, based on what is available at this moment. He needs to sign his deal so they can get back to business.
That being said (assuming Smith is back), you can SAY you’re bringing Tebow in as a HB/FB goal line gadget player, BUT we all know the first pass of the year to short hop Crabtree or under shoot Manningham and the Tebow idiots will start their crap. Momentum will build on the Cali Tebow Bandwagon and before you know it, you’ve got the Denver dilemma relocated to Frisco.
This is a roster that was plays away from a Super Bowl appearance (and possible win) last year. The same roster has been retained for the ’12 season and upgraded at positions of GREAT need. This roster will enter the season as a favorite in the NFC to get right back to the position they were in last year. This is not the type of team that needs to go out and make a move to bring in Tim Tebow and all the baggage that comes with him. Sure he could help you grind out a few redzone TDs, but the potential disasterous effects GREATLY outweigh the potential small gains! I will take my chances with Randy and Mario upgrading the red zone offense with their big bodies on the outside. No thank you Mr. Tebow, but if it doesn’t work out for you down south, there’s alway a job for you up here… ARRRRRGGGOOOOOSSSS! (For those unfamiliar, the Canadian Football League, Toronto Argos… Tebow has CFL QB written all over him!)
No. Niners should not get tebow. If they resign Smith they should stick with Smith. There is a reason no NFL teams use a 2qb set, it messes with continuity and morale, signing tebow would be a crap move unless they just wanted to use him as a trade piece with other players. The only way I.would want to see him used is as a short yardage back but that’s only because I want to see that overhyped pos get cracked. Any draft pick would be to high for tebow as we could get a good player in the 6th round. No tebow, he can take his act elsewhere, where he would be bigger draw The bay area is a place of reason and science, his act would pull in more fans in other areas of the.country.
At first, I was opposed to bringing in Tebow. But after some thought, I think the Niners can make it work. The Niners have shown extreme creativity on how they utilize players. Remember how they drafted a DE and converted him to FB? In evaluating Tebow, I challenge you naysayers to think outside the box.
Even in the traditional sense, if Tebow comes in as a QB, he’d be good for competition.
“I challenge you naysayers to think outside the box.”
You mean like AS can be a good QB?
@DS
Do you really call that ‘outside the box’ thinking? League wide Alex is viewed as an average QB. That means he’s sometimes good and sometimes suck. Come on DS, be creative.
@nick
At the end of 2010, AS was viewed by many as below average, and no hope.
Now he is average (according to some, better according to others).
See how things can change in 1 year? Add all the little nuances of last year and 6 comeback wins, what average player does that?
P.S. If I want too, I can make very creative posts. Things that nobody have ever written. Maybe what you mean is write something that I nick will agree with. Not unless I think it I won’t.
“Remember how they drafted a DE and converted him to FB?”
I can’t believe that I agree with you about Tebow.1 Let’s get Tebow and convert him to DE. The symmetry is perfect!
@htwaits
Then maybe oneniner was onto something in the last blog. We are overpaying for Brooks as OLB.
(Not remotely serious)
No way!!! We do not need the circus in town. We have a real time and a serious fan base. We don’t need this clown being a distraction. Keep him the hell away from the niners. Let some joke team like the Dolphins have him.
Really!?!? Grant there is no substance to the rumors! Why would you even entertain a rumor like this? Tebow may have his talents but he’s as green as a walnut in June when it comes to actually being a QB.
If anyone thinks for 1 second that Tebow would fit in this offense then you have NO IDEA what Harbaugh is going for offensively, and they probably should never comment on personnel matters again.
Tebow? Really?
No substance? Try Schefter and Mort.
These guys are saying “49ers are a team to watch”, they’re NOT saying the 49ers ARE interested, and 49ers aren’t saying they’re interested. If the reason for looking at Manning was to get an immediate upgrade at QB, then Tebow would be the polar opposite! Which is why Denver got Manning. Not only is it a rumor is a silly one.
Schefter called them “front runners.”
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/03/49ers-updates-tebow-rumor-taken-back.html
Yep Schefter made an oops, and from what the Niners have done to build the team up and sign Moss and Manningham, Tebow makes no sense.
Relax man, its the offseason. Nothing wrong with talking about what is getting reported… rumors or not.
Personally i don’t see Tebow as a fit as a WCO QB, but knowing Harbaugh you gotta think he would find a role for Tebow as a weapon. You can’t question Harbaugh’s offensive mind.
Anyways i don’t see Tebow actually coming here. Peep Tebow’s recent comments after Manning coming to the Donkeys….
Tim said: ‘I miss home. I miss the South. And hopefully I’ll land somewhere in Florida.’
Harbaugh will make do with what he’s got “the best option” he won’t go out of his way to start a project with a player, who right now in his career is gimmicky with a ounce of clutch.
It’s cool if we’re talking personnel stuff. But coming of the Manning saga and ZERO details (except that he DIDN’T choose the 49ers) has come out, why would anyone engage in such silliness. It’s off season, not silly rumor season lol!
We took a shot with Dakota Manning. It failed. Let’s not disrupt the team vibe anymore. Tebow is not worth the outside and potential inside drama it will create. The team as a whole will improve and do will the red zone scoring. Alex just needs to resign.
What next TO and OCHO?
More of the same nonsense. I think this is the one that does it, the straw that broke the camels back. When I see a 49ers story/post from the Press Democrat I will never click on it again.
That’s me in corner, That’s me in the Spot ………… Light …. Losing my Religion.
@Grant:
I understand your position and it is not without merit. I cannot see Tebow going for it, however. Moreover, unless the compensation differential is significant, I cannot see Elway trading Tebow to a team that plans not to consider him as a QB. I would bet that Denver sends him to Jacksonville or Miami if either team offers anything close to the best offer.
What does Elway care? And how does Tebow get a say in the matter?
Elway cares because he has to deal with a huge cult of Tim Tebow believers who likely are already miffed he is on his way out of Denver. That same cult would be downright angry if they thought Elway mistreated Tebow by denying him the opportunity to go somewhere and develop as a QB. You may have noticed the influence they wielded last year in Denver.
Do you think Tebow would be as effective as you imagine if he is unhappy about being made into a running back. Especially if he believes (probably correctly) that there are teams that would consider playing him at QB?
claude balls says:
“Elway cares because he has to deal with a huge cult of Tim Tebow believers who likely are already miffed he is on his way out of Denver”
Kinda like the “huge cult of Alex Smith believers” eh?
Hmmmmm…
>>Kinda like the “huge cult of Alex Smith believers” eh?
No.
as weird as it sounds. its not a really bad idea. he is good in the redzone and just by having that option available that means teams have to spend time preparing for it. are redzone was horrible. theres a reason why akers had the most field goals. if were on the goal line and you have tebow and gore and a run pitch option. not impossible. with that said i much would prefer smith to moss or davis but it just makes the niners less predicitable in the red zone.
Up till last year, the one thing AS has been consistent in was his redzone efficiency.
And it isn’t like he blew it. He only threw 1 Int, and the Niners did score some points virtually every timw.
Maybe trading for Tebow on the cheap would push Smith to improve his red zone play.
i know. it just brings an interesting dynamic to the redzone. wouldnt be hurting the team at all
You mean FG’s?
How Grant?
You don’t think AS is driven? Because that is the only way that line of reasoning makes any sense.
AS won’t improve (or more accurately get back to what he was before last year) by not taking snaps in practice or games. Nobody will. It takes at least 10,000 hours to get good at something. And you need to be doing it. Not watching it to get really good.
If Tebow comes in and you are correct in his role, then I don’t see a role for any QB on this team. AS is gone. CK was getting limited time as is, so if he was going to take 3 years to be starter ready, it will take another 2 years now (so why not dump him as well?) Tebow won’t help develop CK. And Tolzein is dropped.
He’s driven, but he settles for field goals in the red zone. Tebow presses the issue in a way that Smith does not.
But Grant,
It is well known that redzone offense is the hardest thing to be good at s an offense. Compared to anything else on offense, scoring in the redzone is the final thing the offense learns to do well.
You said yesterday that JH was telling AS what to do till the last 15 seconds with the headset. Maybe he did. But you don’t think he told AS to not turn the ball over no matter what? If it is not open and you don’t think you can run it in, to just throw it away and take the FG. With our D, a FG is like a TD. A TD is like 2 TD’s.
So, AS did that. And it worked very well.
Please look at one of the blogs from yesterday. A new blogger of yours ricq (I know that is the wrong name) had all of AS redzone stats. AS has been good until this year. And this year, AS did the thing that matters most. Win.
The idea being that next year the Niners will have more reps, more practice time and get AS redzone numbers combined with AS new ability to find ways to win games, and we improve. Maybe give our starters a lot of rest time in the 4th quarter as a reward.
Why is that so hard to believe?
That would be devastating for a 49ers organization known for QB play to settle on a lucky armed with the baggage of a Curcuis. Its sad to hear this news, that the 49er games will turn into a religious spectacle over pure football. I see all the religious freaks, and fear mongerers telling tailgaters they will go to hell for drinking.
Have you considered a career in stand up comedy? This whole scenario IMO is really getting blown out of proportion They are not going to bring in Tebow. What do you suppose is CM’s source for his tweet, anyway? Hmm? Maybe it is simply that they do not have a starting QB signed?
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Can any of you think of a successful team that employed a quarterback by committee strategy?
I can only think of Slash in Pittsburgh and the didn’t win…
The 49ers and Red Hickey(?) did. They got rid of Y.A. to the Giants, and ran three QB into the game depending on the situation. They had a 35-0 win, and a 49-0 win before going into Chicago. The Bears solved the 49er three quarterback shot gun by killing the QBs.
Any errors of fact in the above history are not my fault. It’s the blows to my head that are responsible.
Grant this is the dumbest post ever. Sign him as a RB or TE & convert him like B Davis, but no way on QB. Plus all the religious fanatics that think he is some Jesus sent savior would be a total disruption. His current coach said he is incapable of running a pro set offense so we’d have to install some gimmick bs college O. No way Jose. There is a good reason Elway couldn’t wait to ship him out.
Tebow would be the ultimate wildcat QB. He may be the most punishing, powerful quarterback runner of all time. The reason the wildcat died is that with few exceptions, the defense doesn’t have to worry about a pass, and simply have to defend against an option play – which they’ve mostly figured out how to handle by now. But Tebow is an actual quarterback who can throw a little, so you can’t simply load up the line against him. That would be a change of pace like no other.
Naturally, there’s the danger of Tebowmania grabbing the fanbase, with calls for him the first time Smith hits a rough patch. But if Alex should struggle, they’ll be yelling for somebody regardless. So I’m for grabbing Tebow, and the only concern is that he might take up a roster slot that we might need at some other position. Can Tebow play special teams?
they just ran this offense your describing in Denver last yr and it helped lead them to the most 3 & outs in the league. Every good team they played last season dismantlded this offense except the Steelers who had so llittle respect in Tebow they ran the same d all game. This would be the beginning of the end for JH.
LOL no thanks Grant this guy is horrible
I can see Grant’s point. I wouldn’t mind having Tebow on the team if he was used as a fullback-type player. But definitely NOT as a traditional QB. The guy CAN run like a truck (?), but who knows if he’s up for that. I wonder if Tebow would only want to go to a team that will use him as a traditional QB which I think is what he wants. At least coming out of college he was all about talking how he wanted to be a traditional QB.
Kap could do whatever you would be bringing Tebow in for. He’s not needed in SF
Very good point
Noooooooo! The wildcat is in the past if they wanna gt a goal line RB then go after Jacobs or get one in the draft, Dixon dances too much for being a big RB.
Tebow is a better runner than Jacobs at this point.
Silly statement Grant. Tebow is not a running back and would eventually get smashed. He runs upright. He would have to put on wait and be an H back or TE. But he wants to play QB…
…why add another element of complexity to the Niners. We went after Manning and failed. Let’s stabilize and get ready for the draft. If you want to carry on about Wallace fine, but that deal is not being worked on until mid-April so…….soooo, what else to talk about…oh Tebow. :)
Ok disregard my comment, I guess continue with the Tebow talk.
Reaffirming my stance. NO-2-Tebow!
Put on weight??? He’s 236 lbs. Dixon is 233 lbs. Tebow’s built for a beating. He could carry the ball 12 times a game easily. He’s one of a kind.
And younger too.
Grant, H-Back for blocking and TE duties that is why I was saying putting on wait.
Jacobs is running on fumes.
Tebow has skills. The guy should be a RB.
For a tight end maybe. But really? After all of the years with smith and the split on this blog. GC you have have 1000′ of comments for years to come. I would rather take 05 smith over tebow. Unless harbaugh is that FN good. It would take a miracle. Noooooo thx!
While we’re at it we might as well bring Jimmy Raye back to re-install the “Taser”.
It’s funny how everyone is still assuming Elite Alex Smith is going to be a Niner. We all know that the Niners are not going to increase that offer in $$$ or in years. They moved up and drafted Kap for a reason. Kap tweeted Boobie Dixon and said,” I’m comin for that #1 spot!” Kap thinks he’s ready.
I say we sign Josh Johnson, get wLlace from the steelers. Let Kap and Johnson fight it out. May the best man win. Why are we kissing Alex Smith AZZ?
As far as Tebow. If we trade for him to play QB, forget it. If it’s for the red zone as a back or wild cat, special teams, I’m with that.
The idea of having Tebow, marketing wise is brilliant. He will sell apparel, we know that. His following is unreal, so he will sell seats. In a new stadium, that’s major. As for playing QB, he’s a better deep ball passer than Alex and he can run but Tebow is as inaccurate as Alex Smith.
Bay,
Tebow makes Smith look like Steve Young. Call it what it is. Lol.
Jordo, my bad.
With all these offensive position possibilities (other than QB) being put forth for Tebow, why would Denver want to trade him? And talk about a team close to winning the Super Bowl, why would Green Bay be in the three team mix for Tebow? If Niners can grab him for a fifth, well, like you said, no brainer.
My inital reaction was no. If he was brought in as a running back and only a running back and in his contract it is stated that he can not throw the ball and we picked him up for nothing – eh I would be luke warm I guess. A 6th round pick is way too much for him.
wasnt the present of randy moss supposed to cure our red zone problems…..we dont need the circus
If Harbaalke can get Tebow for a 6th rounder, absolutely! He’s a phenomenal athlete and a great person, definitely one of those ‘gold helmet guys’ Harbaugh was talking about. He’d be great in the locker room and great representing the Niners in the community…as long as he isn’t tebowing all over the place. Maybe they use him as a TE or h-back, maybe just in goal line situations as Grant suggests. I love the idea, as long as he isn’t being brought in to compete for the primary QB position..but even if he was, I trust Harbaugh as a QB talent evaluator, if he sees something there (i doubt it) then by all means. And I don’t think we’d have to worry about Tebowmania taking hold in San Fran…he’ll probably get more crazies protesting him than crazies supporting him.
no teams start a season with 4 rB’s and 4QB’s
Thats right. Thats why Dixon might be gone
I can’t say I agree with this. I don’t want people handing me religious pamphlets when I’m trying to enjoy my tailgating. “Spectacles, testacles, wallet and watch.”
And theres nothing wrong with right-wing. Tebow is an excellant kid. Just not so good at football. Which is kinda important when ur playing football.
He really is a great kid, he just isn’t a good QB. Wait a minute…..
I think it would be GREAT if the 49ers got Tebow, though I think he will wind up with a Florida team, especially cause that’s where he said he wants to go.
I have never seen a successful young QB so bad mouthed. It’s ridiculous. He only started for half a season, won big time and took a team to the playoffs, where it hadn’t been for years. And then made a spectacular play to beat the Steelers in a playoff game. Almost all QBs get better with age and experience. He has a great upside and needs the right coach. Examples of QBs who were not classic drop back passers who got the right coaching? Steve Young and Bill Walsh. Mike Vick and Mornigwheg/Reid. I like Kaep and Tolzien, but nothing is guaranteed in football.
The guys is a circus. The fans will call for Tebow and will distract the team. This is not about Tebow. It is about the Niners.
However is we landed Manning it would be about Manning. But we didn’t so eff Tebow ever coming here. The guy needs to go to NE or Africa to build houses for underprivileged children.
Grant reading Mortenson’s ‘thinking out loud’ again and turning it into another column. Shows either a lack of imagination or a taste for yellow journalism. And yet, why not? If you assume that an organization is infinitely flexible, can shift identities on a dime, has the manpower to plot out and practice whole new sets of plays with a long line of tutors for the QBs, has a group of players that will endure individuals that might disrupt (after Moss, imagine hard right Tebow in hard left San Francisco—fun), needs four quarterbacks and the OL be damned and…well, you get my point. I have never been in an organization that could stand to be in flux like that for long, but maybe a football team is different. Fun in a messy sort of way, and sells newspapers, which means more paid sportswriters.
Mort calls the Niners front runners, Schefter calls them one of three teams to monitor. Not just Mort thinking out loud. But thanks for the thoughtful comment.
A tweet does not reality make. Have you checked this with anyone in the organization? And whether or not they are doing it, are the reasons for doing it sound. I will again point to my buddy Sando and his comments.
Anyway, as much as I disagree with your –can I say “whimsical provocations?” I like that fact that you are engaged with your readers. It makes posting here addictive and filling as candy.
It doesn’t seem so crazy that a player who had 57 career rushing TDs in college could play fullback for us when our current fullback never had a rushing attempt, let alone a TD, in college. If his talents are used appropriately there’s no denying tebow can be good at something. How useful it would actually turn out? Not sure but I’m just saying its not completely ridic and it’s not like he would win the qb job over smith or CK anyways
You don’t get better by adding things that you already have…we couldn’t score because we did not have a perimeter threat…VD was double covered…Crabtree is garbage vs. man coverage…We got weapons now with Moss, Manningham, and Crabtree in the slot with VD running seam routes…we don’t need a glorified fullback as QB! Geez I swear you and your dad write stuff just to irritate us!
The 49ers red zone woes in 2011 were the playcalling, not Alex Smith. Here’s Roman and Fangio on the subject:
http://www.examiner.com/san-francisco-49ers-in-san-francisco/why-have-the-49ers-struggled-the-red-zone-greg-roman-looks-for-answer
Running game has been stifled at the line and Roman kept throwing Gore at the wall. It’s common knowledge that Smith’s red zone stats the previous 2 years were elite. Though his rating dropped from the 100′s into the 80′s this year, Smith has still scored the same number of TD’s – 10. This means that new system has put the offense in the red zone more often. That’s something to build on. The difference is in the sacks – 5. As Fangio stated, defenses have been loading the box, forcing Davis to block. With Edwards constantly injured, that means the 49ers two tallest red zone receiving threats weren’t downfield. If anything, Smith can be blamed for being too careful with the ball with his receivers. With Manningham and Moss now in the fold, there’s no need to add Tim Tebow and a set of wildcat redzone plays. Just toss it to the corner – and for heaven’s sake… unless we can get The Bus out of retirement, no more 3 running plays in a row.
Redzone conversions stopped being the issue late in the season whereas the 3rd down issues persisted throughout season and into the playoffs – and in the NFCCG versus the Giants. Blame holding on to the ball too long, receivers who can’t get open, offensive lines that don’t block. Heck blame them all…but that’s what needs to get fixed more than anything and Tebow is not the cure for that ailing.
“They”, 49ers? Can’t edit that title?
no No NO! And no Alex Smith either!
By the same logic, why not bring in a 45 year old Jeff George, who complements Alex Smith with his ability to throw the long ball?
I know the 49ers like the moneyball idea, but this isn’t baseball Grant!
Ah. We got an imposter. Dude get a life bro. I didnt write that crap above.
Grant,
With Amith still not signing this deal and being in his feelings and all, can ww trust that he will be committed to this team, if he does sign? How do we know how this won’t affect his relationship with JH on a professional level. Will it affect Smiths play on the field? This is clearly an emotional guy. We have to seriously consider whether or not Smith can recover. If you were Smith, Grant, what would you do? Might be a good blog question???
Ginn is meeting with the Vikings.
do you know if the Niners have an offer for Ginn on the table for return-man money? I’d love to see him back, he was great. Plus even the idea of KW as a backup option makes me a little ill.
The deal on the table for Ginn was 3 years $7 million
This is just more crazy talk. Let keep it simple here on out..
I would boycott the niners
Tebow?
Everyone says he can’t throw and that his mechanics are awful. His footwork sucks (unless he’s running) and he doesn’t know how to read defenses.
However…Harbaugh is a QB genius – he can teach those things to Tebow over a period of time. Who knows – he’s young, he’s eager, he’s willing, and he’s one heck of a locker room motivator.
BUT…he’s Tim Tebow – the most talked about, worshiped athlete on the planet. Tebow fans are freakin’ insane and the entourage that accompanies him would make it difficult for the team to focus on winning – it’d be all about Tim Tebow. You think fans were ready to toss Alex under the bus for David Carr? Fans from all over the country who don’t even watch football would get tickets just to chant “Tebow Tebow Tebow!”.
And, what about Kaepernick? Why groom Tebow when Kaepernick is already in process? Doesn’t seem right to have both of them, and Kaepernick seems to have a less risky upside.
Unless they plan to trade for Tebow and turn him into a FB/RB, then I say “No Way”!!!!!
Haleluja…or however it’s spelled. Having a brain cramp. See how much this Tebow talk has frazzled me.
Mort and Schefter are not kidding about this. This is serious….and unfortunate. I would rather have Kendall hunter on the field rather than Tim Tebow. Tebow will only take snaps away from hunter.
Headed to NY in my niners gear proudly. Grant let’s get some breaking news I’m bored up here 35000′
Do me a favor. Take a big dump in that toilet for me. ;-/
*on*
49erGirl. Jesus couldnt help Tebows aweful footwork, mechanics, and chapped lipps. We should not even be thinking about this.
See the last sentence in my post…..I agree with you.
But, I usually try and take the opposing view into consideration and review the options before coming to a conclusion.
I say we get Tebow and turn him into a TE
Hey Alex, please read these tea leaves: Miami picked David Gerrard over you, even though you played in and won 14 games and Gerrard play and won zero!! Sign the damn offer and end all this foolishness.
five teams now in the Tebow mix. Tony Dungy says Philly Eagles should grab him:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827b9e44/article/dungy-reid-has-to-think-about-landing-tebow?campaign=Twitter_news
To repeat, why take tweets as reality? Please, Signor Grant, check it out. Hard facts are a bigger turn on that flabby speculation.
I predict this post will have 10000+ comments and blow up the SRPDs hard disks
I’m gonna have to completely disagree here… Tebow does not fit the system is not a progression from Alex Smith and CANT THROW DOWNFIELD, the Niners would sooner start Kaep….. Alex Smith will be back under center in 2012 is my prediction.. Kaep will shadow him for about 2 more years……
one more thing the Niners would not give up anyhting for someone elses QB bust to replace their own bust that just had the best season from his carreer… with him (AS) leaving Miami unsigned, i see AS signing with the 49ers VERY SOON
Grant,
I see where you are coming from. If we could get him for a low rd draft pick I would not be opposed to it, yet I’d rather keep the draft pick. We need all the depth we can get. And I believe we have 2 capable passers that we are trying to groom already behind AS so I think it would be more of a luxury than a necessity to get Tebow.
Now let’s say if he was signed, then what do you do? Suit Tebow up and not have Kap dressed?? If Kap is the guy that is the supposed future, why not have him suited in case of emergency and have him get the reps if they are there?
Suit all three. Cut Dixon.
If the 49ers were to trade for Tebow, my gut tells me Alex will mail a pile of dog excrement to Harbaugh’s house and sign with Miami.
But, there’s no way this happens. Tebow will go elsewhere, Alex will resign with the Niners.
lol
The whole premise of this silly rumor is that the red zone and 3rd down problems were ENTIRELY (or even primarily) based on QB play. There isn’t a person in the league that will say that is the case. 3rd down and red zone was across the board (entire offense & offensive play calling). Not to mention our red zone stats in the last few games of the season and throughout the playoffs dramatically improved!
Now IF the 3rd down and red zone issues were entirely or primarily because of QB play, why on earth would you go after a guy who led a team that had a worst ranked passing offense, was tied for 27th place on 3rd downs (we were 30th), and 26th in the red zone. That’s not really an upgrade or improving, that’s staying the same, if not getting worst….the thought that somehow Baalke and JH are thinking that this guy might help solve the problem is beyond silly.
No, that’s not my premise at all. The Niners offense collectively sucks in the red zone. Adding a young, cheap player who excels in the red zone is only logical.
I agree the offense collectively sucks in the red zone, but Tebow and Denver didn’t excel in the red zone either. He was just about the same. Our red zone situation improved dramatically when Greg Roman improved his play calling down there. Certainly, we could get more out of CK than Tebow for less money. Even if trading only costs us a 6th round pick, we still have to give the guy a contract, and he’s not going to come cheaper or even as cheap as CK.
yea, his name is Alex Smith
@NinersRoc
When a player is traded his current contract comes with him. In this case much of the money seems to be guaranteed.
@htwaits
True, the contract does go with him. But the new team can renegotiate the old contract to better fit the new teams salary cap situation if need be.
That is why I had hope that we could get LF and figure out how to pay the guy his bonus without killing any hope of getting anything else or singing anybody else.
If only that HC had been fired, it might have actually happened.
IMO no way we get Tebow, he’s a gimmick player with entirely too much baggage. He sells jerseys and tickets, a franchise looking to boost ticket sales should snatch him up. Not the team one play away from the SB. Plus we signed Rock Cartwright from da Raiders and he’s a solid goal line player. I’d rather sign smith and throw CK out there in goal line situations than try the tebow experiment
Cartwright has 13 rushes in the last two seasons.
You would only have a few carries too if you were behind DMC and Michael Bush on the depth chart
DMC barely played last season and Cartwright still didn’t get any rushes, son.
Cartwright is primarily a special teams leadership kind of guy, but he did rip off a run of 35 yds last year so he’s at least an option. I’d rather sign Brandon Jacobs or use that 5th rd draft pick to get a big body RB similar to that rather than go after Tebow.
Cartwright was mainly used on ST and scarcely used on 3rd and short downs. He was behind McFader, Bush and I believe Jones? Anyways, he’s a standout ST player. If our offense can utilize Staley, Sopoaga and Justin Smith on offense I know Harbaugh, GRo and the rest of the offensive staff could use this guy as an extra blocker and/or short yardage specialist. Dixon needs to stop dancing like Kevan Barlow or his days are numbered
I keep seeing this guy say aging defenders… We have to Older but high motor guys. Rodgers and J Smith.. And we all know Smith is at the top of his game. this is a young expeirenced D. It will only have morr savy and vontinue to get bettrr. Oh and a smith didnt get us to the championship game. This team did. Especially our D and special tesms. Alex smith this year was Mark sanchez last year. The qb who got their by riding his d. Yes they both put up good numbers but we know wherre our team strenght is. Lets not kid ourselves. I just hope Smith doesnt take a step backward like sanchez did. I hope he flys forward. Flys high. Because Like it or not niner maniacs A Smith is here to stay. Now lets go get ring 6.
Alex and Tim bffs forever such nice guys.. can’t wait . What next??
So is it Smith-Tebow and Wallace? Or Kapernick-Johnson-Tebow-Wallace?
I like the second option much better.
It sure seems the Niners brain trust is doing their absolute level best to negate all of the positive steps the team took last year with these shenanigans!! Why don’t we bring bring Troy Smith back, he won some games for us to!!!!!
Didn’t we go 13-3 last year and make it fairly deep into the playoffs with OUR guys? It’s like we went 3-13 and they are grasping at straws.
grant,
you got a pretty cool job, you make all kinds of cockamani predictions that everyone knows will never happen, stir it up with all the comments then when it all blows over come up with some new ones, lol… you and the weather man have it made!!
lol!
lol’s too.
First off, the bloggers that are angry at Grant for posting this need to look at every other main media outlet and realize that EVERYONE is posting this. Grant is doing his job, you may not always like the reports or the speculative info but at least you are getting the info ASAP. I personally like the idea of having Tebow. I remember when he played WR for a few weeks in Denver and he actually didn’t look too bad. I’m not saying we play him out wide but the guy is a flat out athlete and if we can get him for a bargain we might as well try. I was impressed with how well he did in Denver with defensive-minded John Fox as coach. If he had Harbaugh to help coach him I think he could only get better. I don’t want him as our QB but the idea of him and AS/CK on the field at the same time makes me think that the defense would worry about who exactly is doing what. Sign the guy. Let’s expect our coaches to do what they get paid for and coach the kid up.
I like it, but not as a starter. As a situational player he could be dynamic.
We’re talking Tebow qua situational player.
Not only no, but HELL NOOO (sorry Tebow, I am sure you are a stand up guy, take a knee for my soul). Disregard what use he could possibly be for the team (minimal, in my opinion), or the effect that would have on CK (negative, again in my opinion) … I don’t EVER want to hear a chant of TEBOW coming from the stands when Smith, CK, or whoever is the REAL QB has a bad game. The Broncos were desperate for an excuse to get rid of him for a reason.
We don’t need the circus. Kap could
basically do anything TeBone could do.
Hell no!! We got CK.
I’m just glad Grant has a good sense of humor best damn blog around. Who’s got it better than us??
After getting Manning and being able to dump Tebow, I’d say Denver.
Two M-A-J-O-R problems with your suggestion: Tebow is a waste and he’s completely predictible. Boom!
If he is so predictable how come most teams couldn’t figure out how to stop him? Even when they knew what was coming he rarely got shut down for negative yards. By the fourth quarter, when teams seemingly had a whole days worth of plays to figure out what Tebow was gonna do, he still churned out yards like crazy. Stud.
From: @AdamSchefter – Scratch SF from teams that could trade for Tim Tebow, add Miami. Candidates currently include JAX, GB, MIA, maybe more. A trade will happen.
Wow someone came to their senses. Go sign Alex and get this over with. Why can’t we go ONE off season without any QB questions?
SF is officially off the list according to Adam Schefter last tweet..
Thank G…Tebow!
Grant, stop it. no. go away. Timmy Tim Tebow is an embarrassment to this league, and the sooner we all forget he was ever a stupid craze the better. he is big and strong, but CAN’T THROW OR THINK! he is a TERRIBLE FOOTBALL PLAYER! and the only reason he has made it this far is he is a white christian! he should be a third string FB somewhere, that is his skill set!
Go talk to the linebackers that were asked to tackle him. I’m sure they would say the guy is a third-string fb also. Just because he doesn’t throw it well doesn’t mean he doesn’t run like a beast.
Grant, you have officially lost it. I guess Tebow would give you more to write about.
Where will Tebow go?
1. A team with a long established qb that wants to jazz things up and that has the personal to slowly develop a second QB just in case (fingers crossed) there is a thrower underneath Tebow’s muscled arms that is dying to get out. The Packers, The Patriots.
2. A team that needs a popular player to bring back fans, all the better if that player was a local star; i.e., any team located in the South East end of the USA). All the better if the surrounding area has lots of evangelicals.
3. A team that has an offensive structure that already uses a powerful running QB, and one who can mentor or at least model himself to the young Tebow. The Eagles.
Of course, I wouldn’t bet a dollar on any of this reasoned (note, Grant-san–reasoned) speculation.
I think that this is the last straw for me and this blog. I enjoyed the insights of how players act during the season, but it was the only redeeming quality for coming here.
I am beginning to think so too. It is perfectly frivolous, too fly by the pants whimsy, and this makes me doubt my obsession for the game, makes me feel that I am wasting my time—-and yet, for that alone, I owe Grant a bit thank you.
Grant lacks gravitas. Perhaps he needs to be mentored by ol’ Skip Bayless, not his beloved papa. We all need to kill our fathers, at least metaphorically.
I’d take Tebow over Dixon in short yardage situations. 2-3 yards and a cloud of dust Dixon sucks and will likely get cut by the end of training camp. I’m not crazy about Alex, but I’d take him over Tebow at QB any day – but that’s not what we’re talking about here.
Again, did you check the tweet/gossip with the SF organization to see if there is any truth in it? The God of Journalism demands it.
So much for this 200+ tweet-driven thread.
Schecter now says scratch Niners from list of Tebow candidates:
https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/182168373101215744
Thank you. You are doing what a responsible journalist should do. Herr Grant, Wo bist du?
If they were to acquire Tebow, who would they have to trade/release? Even Dixon has ST value…I can’t foresee Tebow playing ST’s. So, they’d be tying up a roster spot for a one-dimensional player. Doesn’t pass the common sense test. The point other posters have pointed out time and again is the aura surrounding Tebow…it’s insane. Yesterday in Denver after the announcement Manning was signing with the Broncos, a poll still showed 60% of their fans still wanted Tebow, not Manning. That should change in time, but it’s still a disturbing fact. Far too many Denver fans are in love with the aura of Tebow, not what he actually does on the field. Could he be an effective wildcat option…yeah, he probably could. But is he worth all the distractions that are sure to come with him…I’d have vote “no”.
That would end MY 50 year status as a 49er Faithful — getting a sanctimonious god-monger who flaunts his religion — “Hey mom — look at me — ain’t I a holy holy holy boy?” And who is essentially a one-trick-pony and that trick gotten sniffed out by defenses already.
I you think Terrell Owens was a destructive egomaniac, Tebow will make that look like a party. Even the Christian conservative Denver area couldn’t stand him. But then many of their fans are real Christians — those who actually read Jesus’ words to practice your religion IN private AND AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.
Even Michael Vick would have been less offensive.
No way I even turn on the game on Sundays if the 9ers go there and he’s there. So that’s one less fan.
dramatic. Unfortunately, you don’t own season tickets and losing 1 viewer for the 5 million they’d pick up could help them overcome losing you.
Well, it was just some sportswriter’s fantasy, an AP guy needing t file SOMETHING no one else had to keep his job.
But really, I’m not the only one who finds religious showoffs to be unacceptable and obnoxious.
Especially when the guy is telling us all the god is winning those games for him — God saying “You’re my boy, Tim — you and no one else(but not saying that God is also losing those games for him — God saying “I won some games for you, Tim but you are really an @ss&&&le.”) It’s not about the god thing that so stupid. It’s that it’s all about him — God, the NFL, everything. Ego is one thing — necessary for a QB, but megalomania doesn’t do it.
Don’t want Tebow in Niner colors, but your New Testament lesson was substantively and factually flawed. Jesus said no such thing. Matthew 5:16 advocates the precise opposite approach to Christian life that you prescribe. Tebow is who he is. If you don’t like him, fine.
When Tebow signs somewhere else I half expect the next ESPN headline to be “T.O. attempting NFL comeback as a QB….49ers are front runners to sign him”
It would have great merit if Tim Tebow was willing to play fullback. He has publically stated that he is not willing to do that.
Mort also said SF was the front runner for Manning. Before that, Mort said Tenn was the front runner for Manning. I think ESPN is just trying to sell advertising slots.
I’d love TEBOW the fullback, but be discouraged by TEBOW the QB.
First, let me tell you that after watching Kaep for 4 years at Nevada, he is every bit the goal line QB that Tebow is. Nevada ran the option out of the pistol about half the time, and Kaepernick’s numbers around the goal line were better than Tebow’s in College (both running and passing), albeit against not as good defenses. Still the only player ever to run for 4000 and pas for 10000 in a career.
Second, The only thing that makes Tebow unique is the media attention he gets. He’s not a good QB. If the niners bring him in it will have to be as an H-back/wildcat/future development project, not to push AS or CK for reps. That would be a mistake. Wouldn’t help anybody.
Thats exactly Grant’s idea. No one here actually read what he was saying and instead jumped into attack mode. An H-back short yardage, FB type of player- Not a QB option
Barrows says we’re not in the race for Tebow.
Stop the madness. NO TEBOW. What the hell?
This is the worst idea yet. Tebow does not have the skill set to be a successful QB in NFL long term. The fact the he can be acquired cheap is no reason to WASTE a draft pick on him. And as far as him being a situational player, please we don’t need gimics at this time which is what he would be.
How do you have a job, Grant? Does daddy have THAT much pull?
What’s the point of a good red zone player when we would never get as far as the 50 on any drive with Tebow at the helm. You think they stacked the box against us when we just had Gore? Look out!
Stop stirring the pot unneccessarily!!!
Adam Schefter just pulled SF out of the mix for Tebow.
I still believe that GC is dead on that we could use Tebow. We scored 11 TD’s on 43 rushing attempts inside the opponents 10 yard line. we averaged 1.1 yds/carry in that situation. Not very good at all by any standards. We averaged less than 3 yards on the season on 3rd down rushes if you throw out the one 24 yard run we had and we averaged negative rushing yards on 4th down. Tebow is a beast. He would significantly improve our short yardage game. Has anyone watched him run the ball in the NFL? Like I said . . . he’s a beast.
Sad to see the Tebowmania in SF die before it could even begin…
Tebow sucks!!!!!! If were going to use him as a “secret weapon” Kaepernick by far is a better qb!! F tebow!!!! I can honestly say I hate him and the negative impact he would do with his crazy tebow maniac fans!!! Bad for our team! Get Smith back already!!
for the love of god……NOT Tebow!!! he sucks as a passer
Grant…I don’t get you. Why in the world would the 49er’s want Tebow? Denver just moved heavan and earth to get rid of him! I am also tired about you refering to your “Dad’s” column. Grow up and write for yourself.
Tebow going to Fla. Probably Jacksonville, where they will respect him.
Sorry Grant….stupid hypothesis. Not gonna happen.
What a poorly written article. Tebow and Smith complimenting each other, huh?
“Tim, I really admire how you handled the adversity last year,” says Alex.
“Alex, you have really great biceps,” says Tim.
Yeah, you’re right. They’d compliment each other nicely.
I’d rather have T-Bone Burnett or T-Bone Walker than Tim Tebow.
You’re trying too hard to create controversy and in the end, your presentation is that of an immature kid who is not ready to run a 49er blog. I wish you all the best, but you’re not qualified for this job. Learn from Barrows.
Sorry Grant… nuff said
@MaioccoCSN From the first live hit at http://csnbayarea.com/live with @MBachCSN … 49ers CEO Jed York says, “Tebow’s not coming here.”
Aww already confirmed by Matt Maiocco that Jed York stated “Tebow will not be coming here” i guess your million dollar idea wasn’t really up there Grant. LOL Well maybe next time chum.
Horrible idea. I dont want tebow or his jesus freak noodle arm anywhere near SF. Please stop writing garbage like this
GC must write his column watching the ESPN tweeters and then just repeats them w/o any research or further study. How weak is that? Did you get your journalism degree from the inside of a matchbook cover? Nothing you’ve written strikes me as very well thought out or researched in the least. Have you ever even been in the Niner facility? Talked to JH or JY or TB? I know it’s a blog but you claim to be a journalist. Not in my book.
OK, this made me laugh:
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/peytonjeebus.jpg
BREAKING NEWS: 49ers just resigned FB/LB Zak Keasy…
I am in the minority but think it would be great to have him as a running back or a 3rd tight end. He is a horrible QB and don’t even want him trying to be one. But a skill player in the red zone would be great. If packers or patriots get him that’s what they’ll use him for. Just watch and see.
Good call Grant. Way too think outside the box!
Jed York has officially stated the Niners will not pursue Tebow.
Of course, right now, that means little.
I thought this site was cool until I read this.
Grant, are you not well? “Alex, we want you back..we need you…we believe in you… except there is this issue concerning red zone proficiency where you don’t exactly shine… would you mind if we brought in Denver’s castoff QB to get us into the end zone? And would you mind wearing this funny hair and bright red nose… did I mention we have confidence in you?” Starting NFL quarterbacks with adequate targets to throw at need to score. Either Alex can do it or he can’t… this year will tell. I hope he shows he can do it.
Thankfully the team has thrown the wet blanket on this. Grant, I know you hate Alex — we could talk a lot about why your hatred is unfounded at this point — but seriously, you thought it was a good idea to bring as controversial a figure as Tim Tebow into a locker room with Moss and Crabs, that is reeling from the Smith-Manning brouhaha … and you thought so just because you think he’s a good 3rd down/RZ player? The guy takes longer to read a defense than my 3-year-old does to read the newspaper. You thought bringing in one of the worst passers in the history of the league was a good idea? Come now. How about we bring in Coby Fleener instead, and see how a 6’4″ TE opposite Randy Moss and Vernon Davis affects our RZ/3rd down abilities? It’s a silly post, Grant. Silly.
Well hopefully Alex kicks ass with his new core of WR’s. Moss will be good in the red zone for us. With Manningham & hopefully a healthy Crabtree teams will have a tough time triple teaming Vernon. Alex needs to bring it next year. He needs a better year than last for sure because now everyone is gunning for us.
Clearly touched a nerve here Grant. Problem with Tebow is the circus that follows him. How will it affect the locker room with the media Tebow draws… especially if he is nothing more than a glorified fullback like he was in his early days at Florida. What about the receivers and especially the moody Randy Moss? How will their attitudes on the field and off fare when they know that every time they get inside the 20 it will be all Tebow all the time? Finally for team morale, Tebow, not the Niners, will be the talk of ESPN. This is evidenced as the Bronco defense won a lot of games last season, and Tebow was given nearly all of the credit. Finally the attention Tebow draws from the fans. Is Smith going to get ousted because he throws two or three early interceptions and the crowd boos for a few minutes? Tebow might be a unique red-zone/short yardage talent. But the circus that he comes with isn’t worth it.
Grant,
I know I’m late on this….but I told you so! Just rumors! Tebow is not coming here.
You know on second thought, I may have to make some kind of friendly wager the next time you make some kind off personnel prediction. It seems like a shoe-in to win the bet lol!
You’re only right. I’m on a cold streak. But it was still a good idea. I don’t know why York felt the need to speak on it today.
…because people like you unnecessarily fanned the flames, that’s why.
Schefter & Peter King… just throwing sh*t against the wall this week.
Wow! I did not realize we have so many unknowledgeable football fans. I have heard the new SF fan base was about as bad as it gets but this is embarrassing. Many of you should just stop posting. Tebow doesn’t suck and Alex Smith really isn’t that good and I love the guy and have pulled for him since day one. Lol at the Kaepernick is better than Tebow talk. That is pure speculation until he starts a few games. If you don’t understand this you should really pick a new sport to follow.
Hey Grant, you seem never to feel shame at yourself. I respect you. LOL
Grant – Please – I hope you are not self-medicating. Love your enthusiasm but please. Let Timmy get back to Disney where he belongs.
I have not posted in a while & only do post when I have a serious comment so here it goes……..GRANT HAS TURNED INTO AN ALEX SMITH HATER! WOW!! Read his old post & read them now I thought it was an imposter! Calm down the HATING GRANT. I know you love the 1000 comments posted but dude your weird lately??
Or is it me???
Both Grant and Lowell are rather critical (their job) of Alex, to a (slight) fault. Can you factor that in as you read his blog? I can.
Can I factor reporter bias into Jack Germond? Yes. John McLaughlin? Yes. Krauthammer? Yes. Rachel Maddow? Yes. Rush Limbaugh? JFC!
If we got him for a 6th and converted him to a RB, ST, WR, TE specialty/utility player…I’d take a gamble. CK has the same skill set with better abilities and mechanics; he has want Tebow does not the ability to throw properly and make NFL reads.
Taking him on sends a negative message to CK and we don’t need that. Pick him and up let him know he’s not competing for QB.
TEBOW WILL KICK 3,000 FIELD GOALS, WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE