The 49ers just released their 2012 schedule, and here it is.
Week 1: at Green Bay, September 9th, 1:15 p.m.
Week 2: vs. Detroit, September 16th, 5:20 p.m.
Week 3: at Minnesota, September 23rd, 10:00 a.m.
Week 4: at New York Jets, September 30th, 10:00 a.m.
Week 5: vs. Buffalo, October 7th, 1:15 p.m.
Week 6: vs. New York Giants, October 14th, 1:15 p.m.
Week 7: vs. Seattle, Thursday, October 18th, 5:20 p.m.
Week 8: at Arizona, Monday, October 29th, 5:30 p.m.
Week 9: Bye.
Week 10: vs. St. Louis, November 11th, 1:15 p.m.
Week 11: vs. Chicago, Monday November 19th, 5:30 p.m.
Week 12: at New Orleans, November 25th, 1:15 p.m.
Week 13: at St. Louis, December 2nd, 10:00 a.m.
Week 14: vs. Miami, December 9th, 1:05 p.m.
Week 15: at New England, December 16th, 5:20 p.m.
Week 16: at Seattle, December 23rd, 1:15 p.m.
Week 17: vs. Arizona, December 30th, 1:15 p.m.
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Mmmm… Greenbay to start. Sounds tasty.
Pretty brutal schedule this year… I don’t see 13-3 again unless our offense really turns it up!!
Anything can happen I see this year, the Niners going 10 -6 .
Another soft schedule WTF?
I agree! The 24th toughest schedule as per the 2011 standings. Only 5 games against quality opponents! All we can hope for is some of those teams improve! I dont see 13-3 tho….maybe 15-1. Were bound to have 1 bad week.
The easiest schedule as always belongs to New England then Green Bay(go figure, no wonder they keep putting up great numbers) and the toughest is the Giants.
Was hoping the Saint game was earlier in the schedule but 5 Primetime Games!
Seems like Old Times eh?
I wouldn’t hope to play the Saints in NO!
Especially with Joe Vitt coaching them.
Nothing wrong with Vitt! He knows his place and will let the offensive coordinator run the offense. He and Spags have the defense!
Go ahead and keep whistling past the graveyard. I think the offense is going to be less effective without Payton, maybe much less effective.
Balls,
You obviously don’t know didley about the Saints. They’re looking at this as a challenge! You obviously don’t recall how they came back after Katrina! You’re entitled to your opinion, but you have nothing to base it on other than your flawed logic! Keep wishing!
@WhoDat
Are things a little slow down there, Bubba? Isn’t the Jazz Fest going on? Nothing to do but troll around here?
Oh Yeah! I almost forgot! You don’t have a 1st Round choice to think about; or a 2nd Round choice to think about; or a Head Coach; or a QB.
Maybe Branford Marsalis had it right when he said “It took the Saints 47 years to win their first Super Bowl, we’ll give them another 47 years to win the second one if they need it.”
@brotha
who dat is better than some of the people here.
You’re right – it is kinda boring so I thought I’d raddle your cage! But it is nice when you’re stacked and really don’t need draft choices this year! Good luck with yours!
@DS
Well, I noted how he manned-up and came back here right after the playoff game. Some of the folks from other teams didn’t have nearly that much class. It was funny though because we hadn’t been to the Playoffs in so long we weren’t used to having anybody care about us enough to poke us! A few of the G-Men’s guys who came on here actually had some good football knowledge too.
So yeah, I’ll agree that WhoDat aint too bad; but you know, he’s the visitor here, we gotta defend our turf somewhat.
@Who dat:
Tell me again why you are trolling here 7 months in advance of a regular season game? Shouldn’t you be somewhere else whining about bounty punishments?
The Saints can look at this as a challenge all they want, but that doesn’t change the fact that they will be facing that challenge without Sean Payton, the unquestioned leader and dominant force on the team (with all apologies to the currently unsigned Drew Brees). Payton designed and built that offense, drafted the playbook, determined the players’ roles within the offense, devised the gameplans, called the plays (although I understand that he ceded play-calling duties to Carmichael after his injury, Payton still had final say on all plays and made recommendations at the start of each series), and made all strategic in-game decisions. Without him, that offense will not be the same. The team will not be the same. I am not saying the Saints will be horrible, but losing Payton is going to cost them more than a couple of games. If not, then Payton is not as good a coach as I think he is.
49ers fans know better than anyone that coaching matters. Look at what Harbaugh did in his first year. He went 13-3 with a team that was largely the same team Singletary “led” to a 6-10 record (yes, I realize that I am giving Singletary credit for Tomsula’s season-ending win; it doesn’t matter) the prior year. I’m not saying Payton is as good a coach as Harbaugh is, but he is a really good coach and is worth a few victories.
You obviously don’t recall how they came back after Katrina!
Sure I do. You obviously don’t recall that they did so under the leadership of Sean Payton. He’s not going to be leading them this time.
i fully understand that you are not going to accept any of this. A guy who trolls the fan blog of a non-divisional opponent 7 months in advance of a game is not going to be rational or look at anything objectively. Since we are not going to have a meeting of the minds, let’s not waste our respective time discussing this any further. Come back in November when the game is relevant, and we’ll see how things stand then.
@brotha
Don’t worry about protecting our home turf. I was among the leaders of doing so. You can always go back and check the archives if you doubt me.
And see my April 18, 2012 at 7:21 am reply to who dat for my greeting and ripping.
Of course he is going to stand up for his team. That is what fans are supposed to do.
Balls,
You’re right – I disagree with most everything you said. And yes, we will miss Sean’s leadership, but Sean wasn’t the only leader of the team! And as I said before, if you think Brees will not be on the field this year for NO your with the LSD crowd. And oh by the way, Sean Payton is a much better coach than Harbaugh – hands down!
I’m here for obvious reasons – I think that the NO-SF playoff game was a great game! The back and forth in the second half was unbelievable! I’m looking forward to the rematch in NO! So get your balls out of your azz and lighten up a little!
@claude
“A guy who trolls the fan blog of a non-divisional opponent 7 months in advance of a game is not going to be rational or look at anything objectively.”
Fans by the very name are not rational. Look up the word fanatic, and I don’t think you’ll find anything remotely near the word “rational” in it.
And two opposing teams fans…most certainly are not going to be rational. A single teams fans are not even rational. Just look at this blog for proof.
Leadership wise, DB can lead the team. I remember him doing a lot to help the city after the disaster after the disaster. If you are remotely human, you would follow that guy straight into the enemies guns with the belief you will be ok.
But as for the rest, the Saints are going to miss him. Can’t replace the preparation/skill so easily. If they can, then they should dump him for a cheaper guy. No need to spend a lot when a little gets you the same results.
Looking at an NFL schedule in mid-April (even before the draft) is a lot like looking at mock drafts. A complete waste of time if you are really trying to figure anything out.
Proof: To start the season last year, the other 3 division teams stank. Had we played our divisional games then, we would have secured the division by week 9. Then in the second half of the season, those same weak teams weren’t so weak anymore. So, those games which looked like easy wins were no longer a sure thing.
And that was in the NFL season! Can’t figure out anything right now. Just water cooler talk at this point. Everybody is right and everybody is wrong.
Our Div isnt going to be so soft this year. Cardinals and Hawks are going to be tough and hard telling what Fisher is going to do with the Rams.
I agree undercenter.
Like I told you earlier, I worry a lot more about the good defensive teams on our schedule than I do the good offensive ones.
I feel good offense is often the result of bad defense. How many good offenses played a lot of good defenses last year and have the stats to prove how good they are? I don’t know of one.
For an example of a good offense meeting a good defense and seeing what happens, I refer you to the Raider-Dolphins game. The Raiders went into that game with the most “big pass plays” in the NFL. The Raiders first big play (pass over 20 yards) didn’t happen until the game was well in hand with the score something like 30-10 or something like that in the 4th quarter.
That big play offense didn’t do so well against a smart know your assignment defense. And so I figured that big plays are often the result of bad defense (usually a result of all 11 guys not following their assignment). And that often times the great QB’s are the ones who find the open guys more than non-great QB’s when playing such a defense.
Then when they play a good defense, they are really tested. And rarely look anywhere near as good against them as they did against bad defenses. Despite the fact they they are still a “good” offense.
Rephrase that 2nd paragraph:
How many good offenses played a lot of good defenses and have the stats to prove it? I mean season long. Not just one game.
I love this schedule. It’s pretty fa favorable. We have 5 weeks where we are at home that’s alot of practice time.
Niners @ Jets … I’m there! Thank you, scheduling gods for September and not December.
Make our presence known ribico.
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Fireman Ed’s got nothing on me!
If your mouth runs like it does on here. Your going to the hospital.
MD, come on no different than Jordo who’s MIA latelty! Take that back his latest poor comment is below. lol
md, aren’t you in some re-education camp somewhere? Do they actually let you use computers there?
Hof I think 23j could back his talk, he says what he feels and gets attacked. Some can’t handle opinions, ribico on the other hand brings nothing but smith **** sucking and lame comebacks. Like the one below. Betting he has no people skills, and on that note. He will going to the hospital if he flaps his gums at that game. Those jets fans will chew him up. They know what a punk looks like
Chalk up New York as another thing md knows absolutely nothing of.
@ribico
On a side note regarding NYC fans, I know you’re right. I’ve worn SF colors at E.Rutherford (& even back to Shea) against both NY teams. Those Nu Yahkers will give you an earful ALL DAY LONG, but we never felt threatened. In fact one group of guys who’d been riding us all day bought us a round in the fourth quarter. Another guy came up to say we were good sports for taking the heat and responding with snide jokes instead of curses.
SF colors at Oakland? Now that can be trouble. Just saying……..
You’ve got that right, Brotha. Though a Bay Area native, I’ve lived in NYC for nearly 30 years, and have been to many a game in the Meadowlands (many of those Niners/Jets, Niners/Giants). It’s all good fun. md is talking out his butt.
Now… as a former Knicks Season tickets holder, pity the rubes who wore Reggie Miller jerseys to the Garden back in the ’90s Knicks/Pacers playoffs. No mercy was shown to those cats!
Come on md. Where/why did you write that?
You complained about Niner fans bashing one another, but ribico didn’t say/write anything at all offensive to you or anybody else in his 4:24 or 4:30 posts. If ribico upset you earlier in a previous post (blog), take your hostility with him out over on that post. Or better yet, let it go and move on.
Not cool that you came out of nowhere here and bashed ribico like that.
@DS,
Like the apes in the simian cage at the zoo, md is free to fling his poo in any direction he chooses.
It’s no bother to me, I don’t debate with those with less than two functioning frontal lobes. And I don’t coverse with those with less than one.
@ribico
Thanks for the reply. At least I know I have 1 frontal lobe that functions.
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Ds…. Are we back on you trying to police people’s posts? It be best if you minded your own business and fight off the swarm of fans and writer that are proving you wrong. As far as ribico. He’s another onelame with nothing better to do than support smith wear his dunt dunt dunts, and talk smack with zero facts. If he thinks he’s so tough like on this board at that game, he’s going to the hospital. That’s all!
@DS,
Like the apes in the simian cage at the zoo, md is free to fling his poo in any direction he chooses.
It’s no bother to me, I don’t debate with those with less than two functioning frontal lobes. And I don’t coverse with those with less than one.
And yet you can’t stay off my posts. Go figure another smither with a hypocrite bone. Wheew! Pathetic.
I’m not aware of any writers who have proven me wrong at anything here. The writer here thinks 19 games is 3 seasons worth. 3 seasons is 48 games not 19. And to deny every other variable even exists while supporting your one variable to feverishly degree, is fool hearty. The writer here thinks that the OL and WR’s don’t matter at all when it comes to converting 3rd downs. Nor does he bother to separate the 3rd downs which we ran the ball from those we passed the ball. He placed complete blame on the QB (AS) for the 3rd down failures, while ignoring all other variables. Of which there are many. The fact he did not know “sample size” told me a lot about his knowledge of analyzing stats.
And, yes. I saw ribico’s reply. Which never would have been written if not for your initial out of the blue post. You often write things here about taking responsibility and not getting any hand outs and such. Well, in this case, you are the reason why ribico wrote that post. All you. I don’t think ribico would just have written that out of the blue when he did. You initiated it. So don’t cry about a reply to it.
Ds nobody said I don’t take responsibility for what I write. This clown is on the same level as onelame to me. Those two are one in the same. I don’t need a ref telling me what I wrote. Me and these two lame ducks will NEVER see eye to eye. Because I’m a niner fan and they are smith bodyguards. I’m saying let me be me and you be you. I don’t get in your biz so please stay out of mine. As far as guys like Hoff and some others who backed smith with some class. I can’t hate those guys, because you earn respect WITH respect. Rib and onelame stepped on my feet first. That’s all!
Fellows. Fellows. Don’t waste your time arguing about who said what and who said it first. If that were important, this blog would be filled with nothing but.
right, md. I spent what is probably your yearly salary (see I can make stupid-@ss generalizations too) to come cross country to the NFC championship game to root solely for….. Alex Smith. I would call your logic idiotic, but there has to be some logic there in the first place.
If you are familar with that thing known as jet travel, you are more than welcome to come out to NJ for the Jets game and cheer on the Niners. Or in your case, root against Alex. You might even make some friends with those mean old NYers the process. Be vewwwy careful though, they will put you in the hospital if you so much as look cross-eyed at them.
…..damn dude…….if it is not Alex, it must be oneniner……
ninermd is just mad someone else could go watch the games in a stadium…….you guys know apes do lack some abilities…
right, md. I spent what is probably your yearly salary (see I can make stupid-@ss generalizations too) to come cross country to the NFC championship game to root solely for….. Alex Smith. I would call your logic idiotic, but there has to be some logic there in the first place.
Riiight. Nice picture New Yorker
So you find it odd that a fan of a team would have that team’s QB on his profile?
It must be really hard work to keep that hate going.
Right Rib. Thats why you have him on there. Oh and BTW….It was I that boldy predicted that Smith will crack top 7 this year. So I guess I cant hate him that much. I cant hate Smith, but I can hate the excuses and nonstop “No fault” of his own comments on here. See there are realist’ and there are Smith fans. Sorry Ya’llcant handle the truth about his past. Ive always wanted whats best for my team, not Alex Smith only. This team is special and so are our coaches, Alex Smith WILL and will have to step it up next season if he wants to remain the starter here. Any predictions of your own? Hoss…..His Yds, 3rd down Avg, TD’s and T.O will go up next season. He will crack top 7.
Then we are in agreement, he needs to perform better to hold his job, he will and and will. So what’s your deal?
>>Any predictions of your own? Hoss…..His Yds, 3rd down Avg, TD’s and T.O will go up next season
I don’t have any predictions other than the Niners will win a ton a games with him playing them, be careful in turning the ball over, get into the playoffs and be right there in contention for the big prize. Whether they take it, I don’t know.
The other stuff – Attempts, YPA, YPG, %, 3rd down stats etc, I don’t give a hoot about – W’s and the main stat directly affecting them – TOs, are my only concern. If AS redevelops bobble hands, becomes careless with the ball, I fully expect JH to pull him, as long as there is a QB on the team who *will* take better care of it. But after his stellar performance last season regarding TO ratio, I seriously doubt that happens.
@ribico
Your second paragraph is dead on accurate. That is how I feel as well. But the people here only want to discuss stats. Even if they don’t know what they are looking at/how to read them. They think it makes them look smart. It really doesn’t. Numbers don’t play the game. People do. And people are not just a bunch of numbers walking around.
Ribico, My buddy is a huge Jets fan and we’re starting our trip plans. I just gotta get the thumbs up from the father in law as that is right at harvest time on the farm. Mother in law said she’ll put in a good word, though, so I should be good.
Awesome, Sean! I’m getting my tickets from a Jets season holder I work with. We need to represent the scarlet and gold!
I like it, a good tough schedule we are going to find out how good the Niners are by the end of 2012. To be the best got to beat the best. Packers, Saints, Patriots, Giants. Bears and Lions to boot.
Perfect bye spot. Tough schedule. When the playoffs arrive this team will be battle tested. The offense MUST restrict the amount of time the defense is on the field by improving 3rd down conversions and by scoring touchdowns in the Red Zone.
With this schedule I think 11-5 would be realistic.
exactly… perfect bye spot. When we really need it. Not too early.
Yeah I’d say 11-5 is about right. If we get a run of injuries, it could fall, and if we have ridiculous luck again with turnovers and such, or the QB position becomes truly productive, we could move up, but 11-5 is most likely.
Some will be disappointed. But, honestly, how many here would not have given their left testicle for 11-5 two years ago?
I think the 49ers are poised for a 10 winning games a year streak. Like the old days. At least three years, and then it’s on Baalke to keep it going. With some improvement in certain areas, and some luck, we could easily get to the top of the mountain during this window.
@Grumpy
I would not give my left testicle or my right one for a 11-5 season, actually would not give any body parts for Super Bowls or Stanley Cup winners, but maybe your are old and grumpy.
I gave up giving away testicles for wins…. after the second time.
@Spitblood:
Nice.
If I didn’t loathe the +1/-1 comment-grading-thing almost as much as I loathe TIM, I would give that comment a +1.
@ Splitblood,
Your more of a man then Ronnie Lott, he gave away part of his finger but you gave away your manhood.
The offense has GOT to improve if the 49ers are going to come close to repeating their regular season record. The defense will probably be top 5 and stingy, but that does not guarantee the volume of turnovers that they got last year. A lot of that is just luck of the draw. Therefore, the offense needs to possess the ball a lot better and punch it in more often than settling for 3. I think we all have a right to expect that JH’s offense, with a full year and offseason, will make significant strides forward, regardless of who the QB is.
Without knowing who’ll be on the roster, who will survive PS injury free, or the RS too, and without any idea on several roster positions, it is high time to make predictions:
Week 1: at Green Bay, September 9th, 1:15 p.m. — Loss
Week 2: vs. Detroit, September 16th, 5:20 p.m. — Win
Week 3: at Minnesota, September 23rd, 10:00 a.m. — Win
Week 4: at New York Jets, September 30th, 10:00 a.m. — Win
Week 5: vs. Buffalo, October 7th, 1:15 p.m. — Win
Week 6: vs. New York Giants, October 14th, 1:15 p.m. — Win
Week 7: vs. Seattle, Thursday, October 18th, 5:20 p.m. — Win
Week 8: at Arizona, Monday, October 29th, 5:30 p.m. — Loss
Week 9: Bye.
Week 10: vs. St. Louis, November 11th, 1:15 p.m. — Win
Week 11: vs. Chicago, Monday November 19th, 5:30 p.m. — Win
Week 12: at New Orleans, November 25th, 1:15 p.m. — Loss
Week 13: at St. Louis, December 2nd, 10:00 a.m. — Loss
Week 14: vs. Miami, December 9th, 1:05 p.m. — Win
Week 15: at New England, December 16th, 5:20 p.m. — Loss
Week 16: at Seattle, December 23rd, 1:15 p.m. — Loss
Week 17: vs. Arizona, December 30th, 1:15 p.m. — Win
10-6 (Seattle 9-7)
No first round bye
I wouldn’t be so sure they lose in Green Bay. It’s early September and the weather is great. Plus, I don’t see them splitting with all their division opponents like you do. I don’t see why they don’t sweep the Rams and the Cards.
Ha! My pre-prediction caveat was just that. It’s April. Before the draft. In other words — who the heck has any idea? Road games are harder though, so in my whimsical stroll down way-too-early-to-predict lane I give credence to how it’s always tougher on the road.
As for our division? I think they will all be better. Even the **lowly** Rams. Fisher will have them playing better. In every season there are games you should win that you don’t, and some you shouldn’t that you do, more or less. But yes, 3-3 in the division is nothing special. If that comes to pass, better hope there is not a tie!
My second prediction and one I can offer with 100% confidence in its accuracy is that — my forecast will not come 100% true.
Going to lose against St Louis, I doubt it, Green Bay is going to be tough, even when we had a great offense and a great Hall of Fame QB, it was always tough place to play, but we might take that game.
Surely. There’s not a game on there that we can’t win. But we won’t go 16-0. I don’t think we go 13-3. Last year we had a ridiculous TO differential. That never repeats. We also dodged major injury bullets. Also — not a given two seasons running. I think we’ll be a better team, but we won’t win as many games.
……why can’t we have a ridiculous TO differential ?…..A QB+Coach who we know is careful with the ball…….and we are returning the same starters on defense………nothing has changed which makes the chances of a repeat very likely…..
@oneniner
I have no idea why we can’t have a dominate TO munching team again. But I bet more than one person here is going to blame AS for the defenses failures to get TO’s if that does indeed happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean
@Grumpy Guy
See JR about regression toward the mean. Just because it is common does not make it certain.
Thats a terrible prediction. No way we lose that many! Especially New England and New Orleans. Not to mention losing once to everybody in our division.
barley….. Lay off the Beer. 12-4 at Worst.
Lay off the beer? You might as well ask me to not breathe. Perish the thought.
Lol. You got a point there.
Holy shiiiznit!!! You’re right about Barely laying off the sauce!! I think we go 11-5 at worst!! 9-7 would be dire straights!! I feel either way we win the division, make the playoffs, and go deep!! Don’t wanna scream Super Bowl appearence just yet. I maybe a Homer … but I’m not a F(BLEEP,/i>)in’ Homer.
Come start of the season the niners are going to pick up where they left off..If the packers had a hard time against the Giants defense, what makes you think they will play better against the 49er defense?
I agree, that the 49ers will be alot better offensively in 2012. The players will have ample of time to adopt to harbaugh’s offensive scheme’s. The coaches will be able to tutor the players more in the off season, and the coaches will recognize the players abilities and where the soft areas needed for improvement..
The 49ers players didn’t have the tutoring last off season, while there was a lock up. They will vastly improve in all areas comes preseason and the regular season aswell.
The only way the 49er teams is headed is upward..I don’t even think they will lose a beat from last year..
I’d say 11-5 this year. More talent in the receiving corps and focus on the offense during offseason. All good!
@Hof, my gut feeling maybe they’ll be 13-3 again. And this time around they will go on to the SB and win it all.
9erman, I’m with you and difficult to disagree just being conservative given the receiving corps from last year.
2-6 on the road? I doubt that will happen.
0 – 1 in New Orleans for sure!
With the exception of New England late in the season and well into Winter and playing New Orleans late, it’s as good as possible. No quick turnarounds after a lot of travel and getting Lambeau Field in early September is as good as it could be. It could have been Green Bay in December. Plus, they don’t play a division game until the 7th week and they get the bye right in the middle of the season. It’s as good as it could be with this brutal a schedule. Sure, they’re probably not going to go 13-3 again, but they could go 11-5 or 12-4 and win their division. That defense will always keep them in these games and if the offense comes on strong, they may surprise people.
OVER/UNDER for wins is 10. Which do you take?
Depends on the Harbaugh/Roman and if they can get this offense cruising at 28pts per game. 11 wins with that schedule will be difficult but I’m a believer. Over…
I say 5-3 in the 1st Half of the Season & go 5-3 in the 2nd Half maybe the 49ers win 1 more game to go 11-5.
Over… and we kick the hell out of GB week one, to put the league on notice.
I say we win the West with a 11-5 record
Depends on if they have Alex or JJ at QB. With Alex, 8-8. With JJ 12-4.
Ya because JJ has done so much in his Illustrious NFL Career eh?
PLEASE
over. 12-4 or 11-5.
Over, i really hope
OVER
We’re going to have to really score some points against this schedule. FG’s are not gonna get it done this year. We play some very good offensive teams.
where you been, spitblood?
In prison. Jerry Brown got rid of the free WIFI.
Spit that’s a” drag” but I hear those Martha Stewart striped PJ’s are stunning!
I’m out now. On parole. The ankle bracelet itches.
Pork,
I don’t know if thats directed to me. If it is, I have only 1 screen name and I’ve never used any other. I’m not a big draft predictor so I’ve not been posting about it. I’m looking forward to it though.
The teams that have good offenses don’t scare me as much as the teams with good defenses and I dont see too many of those. Easy schedule!
@MM
I am with you on that so is ds.
Thats a good point. With our defense keeping us in games, regardless of the opponent, the offense just has to show up.
First 4 gms are so important @gb det two good teams Then two east coast games 10am good luck 9ers
PLEEEEEEEZZZZZ — @Grant
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You know that people are making a big deal about East Coast 10am games, right? But you post without saying what time zone each game is? All times are EST, PST, or the time at the stadium?
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Clarify!!!
Thx
All the time zones are PST, not the time at the stadium. Sorry for the confusion.
This schedule is making me excited and nervous. Opening the season at Lambeau, then our home opener is a Sunday night HandshakeGate rematch. We have five primetime games including Thursday night against Seattle and their shiny new outifits, Monday night at Arizona, Monday night vs Chicago and Sunday night at New England! Not to mention both playoff rematches…we’ll get to enact our revenge on the Giants as well as make the Saints pay for trying to “kill Frank Gore’s head”. I doubt any other team has this many intriguing matchups and primetime games. There’s a few tough ones, but no reason we shouldn’t be headed for another first round bye.
I’m not too concerned about Handshake 2.0. It looks like about 4 of the Lions will still be on suspension for that game, heh.
The Lions are trying to be the new Bengals.
The Lions are dirty.I hope we put it on em’-Division games I agree will be tuff(really got keep an eye out for Arizona).GB game should be exciting.Next up, the Draft!
Luckily we get the Cards in Arizona for the first game so the 49ers wont get caught napping in Phoenix again.
The 2nd game at Candlestick doesn’t concern me as much. Late in the season and outside against a dome team is always good.
Poor Frank Gore! Did you actually see anybody go for his head? No! Williams was a nutcase and the players knew it! Show me one piece of film, except maybe when Harper leveled Smith in the endzone, where the Saints made a dirty hit. None!
True who dat.
But, what do you think the chances are that, that audio/you tube video will be replayed somehow by some players the week before the game.
And, our Defense is already revved up. Thanks for the extra pick me up.
I don’t know what motivation you can get from a coach speaking that isn’t with the team (league) anymore! You guys are digging for anything! Best concentrate on how they’re going to stop the offense!
Those Niner players are (at the moment) all still on the team.
And it is best if you don’t need much to get hyped up about a game. But this helps it. That is for sure.
DV,
OK – have the SF Defense listen to the tape before the game if they NEED motivation. Did you actually listen to the tape? It makes very little sense. He sounds like he’s drunk (and as you have previously pointed out – it’s very likely in NO). You have to listen very closely to hear references to players and what he says makes little sense.
But if you need motivation – go ahead!
@who dat
That is a pretty coherent drunk. And the fact is he said such things a lot. A lot as a Saints DC. And a lot as DC of other teams in his past coaching career. It’s just that the media has not gotten ahold of any other audio.
And I would like to hear your take on JJ (Buc Back up). You probably know more about him than anybody here in terms of watching him as he is now.
DV,
You know, I really can’t help you with JJ. I don’t think he ever played against us. We rarely (I don’t recall ever) playing the Bucs recently in preseason where your most likely to see the backups. Sorry, wish I could help. Is he going to compete for #2?
@Who dat
According to somebody who I call a hater, JJ will become the starter before the end of the 2012 season. He hates AS so much he cheers for him to suck and ed .e replaced.
And, yes. Realistically I think he is going for #2. Our 2nd round pick CK “supposedly” has not developed like the coaches had hoped since the draft of last year. And there are rumors that Miami wants him (of course they also wanted AS) and will trade big (like a #1, or 2) for him.
That would leave JJ and another guy who looked better than CK in the preseason game when the faced one another in San Diego named Tolzein. He is a smart kid who is very accurate. Style, not that different from Joe Montana.
I thought JJ had played the Saints in Game 2. Didn’t he start a lot of games at the end?
I’m pretty sure he didn’t play against the Saints. I don’t recall ever seeing him and I was either at or watched all the games.
I sure hope you guys don’t get into a QB controversy. As we have learned in NO, you need to be good and stable at that position.
We’ve had a QB controversy since the draft. 8 years ago. The media/fans wanted Rodgers instead. AS has never been welcomed here.
Every year is the same. Last year Kolb and Mcnabb and Hasselbeck were the saviors. Then CK is. Then when we were like 9-1, JJ’s name was brought up because A will never win a playoff game,. Yep. Even when we won, fans wanted a new QB.
Told ya. Niners fans are whinny and can be aholes. Any other teams fans would love the QB of a team which stank the last decade and what a Cinderella story. But not Niner fans. 2 decades of dominance made too many of us babies. Thinking the playoffs were a birth right. Sad.
Montana’s and Young’s are hard to come by
You’d think they would have spread out the MNF appearances to more then just 3 weeks apart.
The back end of this schedule (after the Bye) is a lot softer (at least on paper), so if the Niners start off 6-2 or 5-3, then they can coast to the playoffs with a 12-4 record and 1st round bye.
Week 1: at Green Bay — Win
Week 2: vs. Detroit — Loss
Week 3: at Minnesota — Win
Week 4: at New York Jets — Loss
Week 5: vs. Buffalo — Win
Week 6: vs. New York Giants — Win
Week 7: vs. Seattle — Win
Week 8: at Arizona — Win
Week 9: Bye.
Week 10: vs. St. Louis— Win
Week 11: vs. Chicago — Win
Week 12: at New Orleans — Loss
Week 13: at St. Louis — Win
Week 14: vs. Miami— Win
Week 15: at New England — Loss
Week 16: at Seattle— Loss
Week 17: vs. Arizona — Win
11-5
At the very worst, we beat the Lions, Jets and New England. I could see losing in the Super Dome and at Lambaugh but I also see them being winable. We have a shot at going to the SB and if we’re gonna lose to all the tough teams then that ain’t happening. Barring severe injuries, I see us winning at least 14
Faithfull, totally agree. What some neglect to understand is that we look *tough* on the opponents schedule as well!
Jets are a mess we kill em!
I think we’ll surprise the Packers at home, our defense will be salty and looking for some contact and both offenses will be shaky which will even the playing field a bit but ultimately we’ll prevail.
Riding the high from our big week one win I expect the Lions to come in with full guns blazing and win a fun shoot out in the bay.
I dont expect the Vikings to put up much challenge but I think we’ll spend the week on the east coast like we did last year but this time with different results. We’ll walk into NY feeling a little to good about ourselves and get surprised by the equally challenging Jets defense who I think is gonna beat up our QB that day.
Spurned by the embarrassing loss to the Jets we’ll blow the next 6 teams out of the water sans the Giants which will be closer but not as close as the previous game match-up between the two.
The Saints are gonna to tough to beat at home as this is a game I’m certain they have circled on their schedule. The taste of last years playoff loss is still very bitter I’m sure and I’m quite certain that we’re gonna lose ugly in this game.
Two easy wins against the Dolphins and Rams followed by two heartbreaking losses against the Pats and the Seachickens. The Seattle loss will be close and a great game to watch.
Good luck cardinals, we’re gonna be pissed about the close loss to Seattle the week before and looking to close the season on a high note before the playoffs. 35-10 if they’re lucky to score that much.
@Faithful
If we draft a OL (Guard more than likely) in round 1 and our OL can’t hold up, I am going to be very, very upset with them.
That would be 4 1st round picks the Niners have given up to make that OL + a Pro Bowl Center FA pickup. They had better be able to hold back a Tsunami, much less a few Jet defenders.
That would be fair but can you give my new guard at least 1/2 a season before you expect him to be a pro bowl blocker?
Given that there are 5 offensive line positions not including the tight end or an extra lineman on special plays I don’t think it how many picks we’ve used really comes into account until you start using first rounders on the same position i.e. draft a LT and then 3 years later another LT because the first one busted out.
I’ll use 5 first rounders in 5 years on all 5 OL slots if I have to If the right players are there but If you go 6 in a row that means you blew it on one of them and thas no bueno.
@Faithful
The guy will be between a previous Pro Bowl Center and a RT who had better be Pro Bowl worthy. Doesn’t mean he has to go to the pro bowl. But no more leaving VD or DW in to help him block his guy. For the Niner offense to really get good, VD needs to be running routes a lot more than he is kept in to block. If you (anybody) wants to see AS improve, then that means AS best/favorite target since his return from shoulder surgery several years back needs to be running routes. Not blocking. That means the OL players need to handle their assignments and the guy in front of them. Also with 4 #1′s, they had better pick up blitzes a lot better as well.
So, I am not going to be as lenient on this new guy as I was with Iupati or Anthony Davis when they came in a few years ago (weren’t starting between 2 Pro Bowl players at the time). This new guy will have to step it up big time (assuming he is a first round pick).
If he is not a first round pick and the Niners go in a different direction (I am hoping WR, but also hoping not WR if that makes any sense) and draft this guy in rounds 2 or later, or if Kilgore or Boone is the starter come game 1, I will grade more on a curve. But for another 1st round pick to go the way of the OL, they had better be good. Like nearing Dallas Cowboys in early/mid 90′s good.
I have an in on season opener tix @ Lambaugh. Anyone else gonna be there?
I have a friend who is a Bills fan (yeah, I know) and he swears, SWEARS, that the Bills will finish the season 10-6, while the Niners finish at 9-7, that one game difference being a 20-17 Bills victory in San Francisco…I couldn’t help but laugh…
Ask your buddy to put his money where his mouth is.
that’s a tough schedule.
folks will be gunning for us this year.
Week 1: at Green Bay — Win
Week 2: vs. Detroit — Win
Week 3: at Minnesota — Win
Week 4: at New York Jets — Loss
Week 5: vs. Buffalo — Win
Week 6: vs. New York Giants — Win
Week 7: vs. Seattle — Win
Week 8: at Arizona — Loss
Week 9: Bye.
Week 10: vs. St. Louis— Win
Week 11: vs. Chicago — Win
Week 12: at New Orleans — Win
Week 13: at St. Louis — Win
Week 14: vs. Miami— Win
Week 15: at New England — Loss
Week 16: at Seattle— Loss
Week 17: vs. Arizona — Win
12-4 Superbowl! WHEEEEW!
Losing at Jets and SEA but winning at NO?
unlikely
MD, love your optimism! We need you here *more* often! Whhewww!
707 coming back from N.O up to Seattle is going to be tough. No matter how crappy the craphawks may be. It’s always a tough place to play especially a division game, where anything goes. Aaaand those saints aren’t going to be as good this year. Dey in trouble this year.
Hoff. Never cared much for “draft predictions” I wait to see the moves we make before commenting on them. Because really. Who the hell knows? Especially with Baalke. And I’ve been out of town the last couple of weeks.
Wk 12 – NOT!
Y’all don’t have a QB signed, WhoDat, ya gonna bring back Favre or Bobby Hebert? LOL troll!
Week 12 not???? What are you a twelve year old stuck in 1999? Your team is done. Last game broke the back of the aints and now you have no coach’s. I’ll bet you don’t win your division or make the playoffs. DONE Son!
Yeah, time to start reading the writing on the wall. You lost your head coach for the year and your stud QB is pissed and has turned basically into a lame duck who’s looking forward to his big free agency next year because the team was too stupid to lock him up.
So, to recap you have no coach and your QB is already looking towards next year and his new team…good luck with that.
Tuna,
You really don’t think we’re going to let Brees get away????? Come on, man!!!!!!
NinerMD,
Now you’re really the moron!!! If you think you guys dominated and broke our back you really must have been on LSD or something! You know you were lucky to win that game!!!!! Oh, maybe not, LSD has lasting effects!
Druggie
That Arizona game is a monday night game after a Thursday night game against the Seahawks. That gives harbaugh and co. 11 days to prepare. No way we lose that one. We gave them that game last year and it ain’t happening again. The jets are pathetic and I don’t see us losing to new england either.
To add on the pats game, they have problems against teams that can wreak havoc on the qb by rushing 4. We’re better than the giants and the giants own them. I just don’t see us losing that one. Plus, they’ll want to make sure moss don’t make them look bad so that’ll open everything else up!
You guys shouldn’t lose to the birds. Why are you concerned about them!
WOW, this is a tough! Bring them on baby. GO NINERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
11-5 or 10-6 at best. 9-7 at worst.
CHEERS TO THE SCHEDULE GODS!!. my take, i’m glad we don’t have any early east coast games following a short week. that’s huge. secondly, looks like after averaging the most (remember London in 2010) miles traveled over the last 3 yrs(over 10k more than second most traveled team in 2010), looks like we should be in the lowest 25% this year. thirdly, id rather had Brady enjoy a homecoming and us play down in south beach in mid December than us to NE and mia coming to SF, but it is what it is. realistically, i can see at worst 11-5 and absolute best 13-3 again. overall i’m ecstatic about this schedule. could shape up to be very favorable for us. RETURN TO GLORY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I read that last years schedule turned out to be the 2nd easiest schedule in the League when all was said and done. This years seems much harder.I thin k we will be a better team this year but we will need to be much better ,especially on offense,to get near the win total of last year. It’s doable.
Horse cookies. Our schedule has been easy for two years in a row.
Whoever said they had an easy or not easy schedule the last 2 years? I said they logged the most miles traveled on avg over the last 3 years. Anyway, in terms of “easy”, I don’t believe it’s easy by way of power rankings, but I do believe it’s favorable in terms of [most of the] games when and where for us to have a .750 winning % or better.
So i have a 200 dollar bet that RG3 will see a playoff game before Luck. Who agrees
I’d agree with that. The Redskins could have made the playoffs last year with half decent QB play. The running game is ok and the defense is sneaky good.
Luck is joining an expansion team. Can’t expect him to carry the Colts as a rookie. Maybe next year.
Adam, I couldn’t disagree more. Pocket passers are more successful. Just take a look at MVick and VYoung. CNewton will always be just short of the SB.
As a follow up, RGIII has a more talented team with the skins. Indy has been decimated of talent so AL will take some time to have the FO replenish the talent level.
Hofer, RGIII is closer to S. Young or Cunningham in style than he is to Vick or V Young. Griffin is as accurate in the pocket as out and he’s a pass first player. He can run when it is necessary but he’s not a “one read then take off” player like Cam.
MSC, I wouldn’t crown RGlll quite yet. Give me a pocket QB that is somewhat athletic any day. I’m still waiting for the athletic running QB that wins the SB.
Give Luck a year to get his feet wet. Wouldn’t surprise me to see the same pattern as Peyton’s rookie year going 3-13 and then taking off in year two. I agree with Hof’s assessment of Newton, RG3 is another matter, this guy has it all, watch the Skins contend his first year.
@Hofer
Didn’t Steve Young win a Super Bowl?
Not if the colts were to pick RG3
Only two potentially cold crappy games at the end of the schedule, good! We should be okay against Patriots in Foxboro. Seattle always plays us tough in their house.
I can see Niners playing Vikings and staying in Youngstown the week between to avoid travel back to SF to play Jets following Sunday. Worked in 2011 so why not do it again in 2012?
WGIBTU???
4 of 6 on the road to finish the season. hmmm that could be pivotal
The Niners will not lose to the Jets. By week 4 they’ll be screaming for Tebow as Sanchez continues to struggle. Ryan’s mouth has run its course in NY and he’ll be gone at seasons end.
Well its down to the pats or jets game. Lol first time on the east coast moved to maine and I want to go to a game. Lol pats game will be cold as hell but would be fun, altho jets in sept sounds a lot more appealing.
I’d love to go to the Patriots game. Just put on the North Face jacket and enjoy.
Three night games at Candlestick. I hope PG&E has it’s act together this year. No more blackouts please.
I think after that fiasco last year at the Stick they made sure they now have back up generators enough to cover any problems.
What would be sweet is if we could get 49ers fans to reserve seats in at least one end zone in GB and when the Niners score a TD (it could happen),then do the “leap” into the stands right into the Niners fans arms (so as not to be killed by the Pack fans ).
Like Bill Batten and others have pointed out, there are several factors (timing of bye week, travel time, divisional games, weather, etc) that definitely work in our favor. The schedule basically turned out as good as we could have hoped.
Excited for 2012!
Super Bowl or Bust for me.
Exactly!!! That’s the standard now in SF!!!!
Watch the 49ers kick### against the Pack the very first game and set the stage for a Super Bowl run.
Been awhile since we curdled some cheeseheads. Can’t wait!
I guess thats what makes the NfL so fun to watch, predict! Last year, no one would have had us going 14-3 and basically an o.t. fumble that kept us out of the SB. NO doubt our schedule is tougher this year, and the cards, hawks and rams will b improved with new additions, and greenbay saints and patriots and lions will be tough. Teams know not to under estimate us now. 2 things- If the Defense can produce 8o percent of what they did last year, and most importantly, with the offensive additions, an expected improvement from a full offseason and a gem or two in the draft, our offensive is going to have to improve in moving the chains, and scoring t.d.s instead of fg.s. . if moss is 75percent of what he use to be, and Manningham, Davis, Crabtree, and whatever rookie we add- fleener, hill, randle or sanu possibly wright can improve Smiths 3rd down and redzone numbers with kendall hunter gettn some screens, ect. . I think we can expect no less than a . . 1o-6 record, good being 11-5, and the worst 9-7 Playoffs!
Predictions at this point are difficult. And for unexpected losses? They’re called…upsets. They happen. We won’t win them all. We’ll lose some we’re expected to win and figuring out which ones they are is a crap shoot. I want 13-3. But 10-6 is based on the unsustainable TO differential crashing back to reality, unexpected injuries playing their part, and everyone and their mother gunning for us. We won’t surprise anyone. We crash back a little, but 10-6 is not bad. A SB win on a 10-6 record would please me infinitely more than a 13-3 records and runner up, etc.
NO has everything going against them. BUT, they still have a great QB and offense. They also have the “world is against us” mentality. I certainly wouldn’t count that game, in NO no less, as a win. We may win there, but we may not. Even if we drop some road games in our division, if we win the division with a 10-6 record, I for one won’t complain.
This is the time for optimism!
Barring major injury to several players, scandal or handshake disasters, here’s how I see it play out.
Week 1: at Green Bay. The Niners defense is one we’ll talk about for decades. Legendary. They will turn it on again and start right off with that magic against Green Bay. Aaron will scramble and run for yards when he can’t throw and gets flushed from the pocket, but he can’t win the game himself. 27-17 Niners.
Week 2: vs. Detroit. Win. Tough, physical game. Victory with a last-second field goal. Handshake is very respectful. 23-20 Niners.
Week 3: at Minnesota. Vikings still aren’t themselves. Niners win 27-7.
Week 4: at New York Jets. Niners win in overtime. They’re on a roll, now! 23-20.
Week 5: vs. Buffalo. Conservative play-calling gets another win. 16-3 Niners!
Week 6: vs. New York Giants. Damn. All that water-cooler talk about a perfect season dashed to bits. What is it about those Giants? They come into Candlestick and surprise us. Team has a bit of a let-down this week. Giants win. 27-17.
Week 7: vs. Seattle, Thursday. Rebound with a tough game. An injury plagues the team. Niners still win 26-20.
Week 8: at Arizona. Niners light it up for Monday night. Plenty of rest. Plenty of time to game-plan. Defense contributes to the scoring. Niners 34-13.
Week 9: Bye. It will come in handy. Injuries have mounted, but the key players come back healthy after the bye week.
Week 10: vs. St. Louis. Best offensive showing of the year, Harbaugh crafts a great game. Niners win 44-14.
Week 11: vs. Chicago. Close game. Niners get a reputation for styling their game different each week. Niners do what it takes, win 21-20.
Week 12: at New Orleans. The Niners put the Saints into a tailspin with this game. Niners win 30-24.
Week 13: at St. Louis. Sorry, St. Louis. Niners win 28-10.
Week 14: vs. Miami. Rainy-day game. Niners win one in the mud, gaining most of their yards on the ground, plus one long and unexpected pass play. Niners 19-0.
Week 15: at New England. Great game. This one gets everyone talking about Niners going to the Superbowl! Niners win 27-14.
Week 16: at Seattle. Niners have clinched the division. Rest most of their playmakers. Start focusing on the playoffs. Lose 24-17.
Week 17: vs. Arizona. Defensive backups put an exclamation point on the year. Niners win, 24-3.
Sure, call me crazy at 14-2. But I also made a crazy bet last year that the Niners would play in the Championship game. Who would have guessed the team was a missed play away from going to the Super Bowl? I’m convinced they would have won it, too. Damn. That still smarts a little.
Can’t wait for this year!
Good luck on Wk 12! You must be really dreaming!
like last year???
Who dat on dis message board talking smack after getting der butts beat in de playoffs last year? Who dat from Mandeville dats who!
You guys are really proud of a game where you were pretty lucky to win!
Lucky? Ask your RB how lucky we were. Does he remember any of that day yet?
Your team stunk up the place and gave away the ball five times. YOU GUYS were lucky we don’t have a QB who plays four quarters, or you would have lost by 28.
Hightop,
Yea, like you’re going to win in our place!
Grumpy,
Yea, you made my point for me. You got 5 turnovers and a 17-0 lead and came really close to loosing. You guys can’t finish!
Rocket,
Yea, you really beat our butts bad!!!! Another one on LSD! Good luck in New Orleans!
hightop
Yea, you beat us real bad!!!
The only thing that really worries me about the Saints game is that it is a cross-country trip on a short week. The Saints were not as impressive offensively last year when Payton was injured. It will be interesting to see what they can do without him even in the stadium.
They ran up over 60 points on Indy. I know Indy was likely the worse team in the league, but over 60 pts on anybody in the NFL is impressive. You need to be worried about more than the short week!
See my 4:42 post. who dat.
DS 94
Your 4:42 post doesn’t say anything!
It says something about good offenses and good defense and which/why you should fear one more than the other.
Read it again.
DS,
Did you forget we gave you 5 turnovers and a 17-0 lead? You really don’t think you can stop our offense do you? Can’t wait for the rematch in New Orleans – When was the last time you guys were blown out??? Get ready for it!
Wow, look at the guy whose team got beat talking trash.
You have no idea how much you are going to miss Sean Payton, do you?
@who dat
So, your team gave us 5 TO’s? WOW! They are moronic. Out West we call them Takeaways. You see, how it works is like this:
You had the ball, we beat the snot out of you, you drop the ball, we get the ball. Memory problems an issue for you? Or were you that RB on the first drive who probably does not remember his name or the game when Whitner removed your head from the game. And we neeeded no bounty to do that.
Another way we get takeaways is we pressure your little QB boy. You know, with only 4 rushers. We don’t need to blitz. So, our secondary just sits and waits. DB is like all the others we play. You hit him. You devour him. You destroy his mental state. And then he throws the stupid pass. You remember right? The DG Int return that was nearly a TD. Yeah.
You think it was luck? We did that all year long. No luck involved. It was all skill and smarts.
I don’t take any LSD. But I am sure you can find plenty in Party City NO. More than enough for after the beating you will take. Your team had better have enough wins to get into the playoffs by week 11, because it was very typical that teams who were on a winning streak before playing us, began a losing streak shortly thereafter.
You know of one such team. The Detroit Lions (5-0 before playing us, 5-6 afterwards). And of course, everybody’s darlings, the Tampa Bay Bucs.
Real football is played outdoors. So surprise that the teams who have the most Super Bowls are the Niners (5), Steelers (6), NY Giants (4), GB (3). All you little dome teams are a little bit to wussy to handle the sport as it was meant to be played.
But no matter. We will crush you indoors or outdoors. In the rain, or in the sun. On planet earth, or whatever planet Williams is from. We are not at all scared of your team. But you should be of ours.
Luck? The only lucky thing was that Drew Brees is still able to walk after the legal beating we put on your boy. That is what happens when you face a real defense. Not those pansies you faced virtually all of last year. Don’t expect luck to strike twice for you. DB had best get a lot of guaranteed money this year. Because after this game, he either won’t be playing again or won’t be the same. And we don’t need a bounty. We just need our defense. And all 11 are returning. Aren’t you happy?
Interesting how the fan from the city with the highest drug problem (yes alcohol is a drug) is the one telling us about our own drug issues.
NO is one of, if not he highest drug use rate in the US. Behind all your party is a drug abused, alcoholic population who hides their problems under the disguise of “Mardi Gras”. That was before Hurricane Katrina. And after Hurricane Katrina, it got a lot worse.
I watched the NEWSHOUR and they talked about it.
@DV
So wait, when you loose in the dome it’ll be because we’re pansies because we play indoors? Umm! You know DV, I had some respect for you after last year, but I think you’re on LSD too!
As far as Brees getting beat up – I think he was performing just fine – just ran out of time!
Buy the way, how do you think AS is going to perform this year after you guys tried to throw him to the side! I thought he played real well in the playoff game and kinda changed my opinion of him – he threw some great passes. Somehow I don’t think he feels the love anymore! Good Luck!
@who dat
Good points there about AS. But TB (our GM) has complete power over personnel. JH had to convince both AS and TB to have AS as a QB here. I thought TB had personnel powers over all but one position. I guessed wrong. As long as TB isn’t in the meeting rooms and locker every day, I think things would be fine. At least that is how I would do it if I were AS. Can’t say much though since I am not.
And remember back to when you first arrived here? I told you how stupid and horrible some of the “fans” here are. I wasn’t lying to you. The fans and the writer of this blog no less saw the Niners signing of JJ (from your fav team Tampa) as the new heir of the QB position.
You might have more good details about JJ than anybody here since your team is in the same division. If you have anything constructive to contribute to JJ being signed here, I’d love to hear it. The only thing we have here is a bunch of people who either hate the guy or love the guy based off some college work a long time ago. Nobody watched Tampa here. If you have anything to share, please do.
I’d love to hear it. As I am sure just about everybody else as well.
And yes. You’d think after that playoff (really both games he did what he could) the fans would love him. But alas, Niner fans are really a bunch of whining a-holes way too much of the time. We complained when we had JM and JR for crying out loud!
I have no idea if Saints fans are the same, but I somehow doubt it.
DV,
I really do hope that AS keeps playing well. I thought that was a real low blow to go after Manning after the season AS gave you guys. They guy does have his moments but obviously can get very accurate at the right time! Hell, even Brees has his moments sometimes. I guess you can’t blame the management for making a play for Manning since he was available, but the timing with AS was terrible!
@who dat
I think TB (GM) wanted Peyton more than JH (HC) did. I have no proof at all. Of course there is no proof of anything. TB was fine with letting AS walk last year. I think it is easier for him to drop AS than it would be for JH. If you look at JH’s career and AS’s career, there are a lot of similarities. When JH looks at AS, he sees himself in a lot of ways.
As the great ex Saint HC (I mean that sincerely) Jim Mora said:
“You think you know. But you don’t. And you never will.”
DV,
Yea, you’re right about what Mora said “You will never know.” It was fun having Mora around – you couldn’t wait to hear what he said next!
Let me know if you plan to come down for the SF – NO game. I’ll let you know some of the great places in NO – like Dragos for the charbroiled oysters. I’ve been transferred to Denver but plan to be in NO for this game.
Very kind gesture on your part who dat.
:- )
But, the likelihood of that happening is small.
Too bad – you should try to visit sometime! Doesn’t sound like you get too excited about Mardi Gras, but we do have lots of events and we’re known for having a good time! It’s not all about Bourbon St. !
I prefer smaller quiter events. Gives me the chance to really know them, discuss things.
Large loud gatherings, I just say hi and no chance to really converse. Usually just BS with one another. How many times do I have to have the same conversation?
My relative went to Mardi Grass. She is much more into that scene and loved it.
Exercised some demons last season. This season starts off with the biggest one we could have. I absolutely HAAATE the green bay packers. 27- 19 SF wins. They follow the KC and NYG blueprint and fluster Rodgers all game. They have NO running game, they have NO secondary, and NO O-line, and IMO have been exposed as the decent team the really are.
I’d love to see it, but I doubt it. Packers are extremely tough at home and the Niners have never played well there. Should be a good one, but I think the Pack will win it.
Two words sum up how I feel. Can’t. Wait.
Can’t wait to meet you guys in the Dome on Nov. 25th!
Great to see you again who dat.
:- )
Now that is over with, your teams medical staff had best not be under funded, because our defense left bruises on your players that are still healing. And they are all coming back.
One more thing, they don’t need a bounty program to hit hard. DB after that game looked more beat than he’s ever been. Last we played we ended your season. We’ll do the same again. After playing us, a lot of good teams stank the rest of the season. The Bucs come to mind. You know them well of course. Having lost to them. They were the hot team till they came here. Got whopped, beat your team and pretty much lost the rest.
Maybe it has nothing to do with the Niners after all. I mean, maybe they thought the rest of the NFL was as wussy as the Saints and weren’t prepared for the 30 other tough teams and were shell shocked playing a real NFL team.
Yeah. That’s it.
Your memory must be somewhat weak! As I recall, you guys blew a 17 pt. lead and, I must say, were somewhat fortunate to have won that game. You guys just had the ball last. I don’t recall you stopping us at all in the second half! But I’m not whinning, you guys made the big plays as well and deserved to win the game! Now it’s time to come to our place! Still can’t get over looking at Harbaugh’s face when he lost that lead! Priceless!
Yes. That look could only be remembered by a fan whose team lost. I was too busy to look. We had another game to play. While you have that look.
And no team scares us at their home. You do recall the Seattle playoff game, right? Well, that is the toughest place to play, and we beat them there. Our D will beat up anybody anywhere.
Almost as priceless as Payton’s face when the Saints lost the game.
Your memory must be somewhat weak! As I recall, you guys blew a 17 pt. lead and, I must say, were somewhat fortunate to have won that game. You guys just had the ball last. I don’t recall you stopping us at all in the second half! But I’m not whinning, you guys made the big plays as well and deserved to win the game! Now it’s time to come to our place! Still can’t get over looking at Harbaugh’s face when he lost that lead! Priceless!
Priceless was watching your team walk off the field with their heads low and shoulders slumping. Ha ha haaaaaaaaa. That td must have felt like a kick in the gut. After all that celebrating to a dagger. Your face would have been priceless! Your coach less saints are done!!
@Who dat…
“Still can’t get over looking at Harbaugh’s face when he lost that lead! Priceless!”
Still can’t get over the look of your coach, players, owner and fans face as the game ended with you losing.
Priceless are that sad excuses that saints fans have had to feed themselves for the past 5 months.
Peyton was just happy to be in the game at the end after you guys tried to give it up!
@who dat
Then your coach has a very different way to express his happiness than the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet.
I could see the same happiness in his face when he said he was suspended for 1 year. I would be as well. Thinking, “At least I don’t have to look like a fool and be responsible for whatever happens in Week 12. Because I don’t want to game plan against that team again.”
we’ll bring it.league is watching!!!!
Bring it! We’re ready!
11-5 AT WORST.
The team will lose two games this year that we absolutely should not. We’ll lose three that are far more explicable. 11-5. We win the NFC West easily, but we lose on the road in the playoffs. Changes ensue. The QB drama finally gets resolved, one way or another.
Then we come back and kick the crap out of everyone in 2013. As in Number Six. Harbaugh is anointed Walsh the Second, the New Genius, or Nu Geneous if you’re Spitblood, and we all live happily ever after.
Happily ever after? I’ll still find some old dog to kick. When Alex Smith is finally banished to backup status so richly deserved, I’m gonna have to take up knitting.
Laughing again.
You forget the part where we win two or three games that we should have lost, Grumpy Guy! I don’t think this team wants to wait until 2012. They have heart, desire and they’re going to be seriously ready this year!
i really dont think this as weak a schedule as many of you are writing about. take a look at last yrs 2nd half records of the teams we play and i think you will see some of the fastest risers in the nfl along with 5 playoff teams including both super bowl teams
The strength of schedule is a myth. Right now it’s the 24th ranked schedule, but the league changes so much every year that it ultimately could be a top ten schedule when it’s all said and done.
The NFC North is going to be tough. 3 playoff caliber teams and the 4th who gets a pretty strong homefield advantage under the dome.
The AFC East doesn’t seem all that bad after the Pats, but the Jets will be tough in NY.
Then the Niners face the Giants and Saints along with the division rivals. Not easy at all. I’m thinking 10-11 wins.
Well, Opening Day at Lambaugh is a good way to get started. A serious test in an historic place. And if you have to play at Lambaugh Field, good weather is a plus.
The Bye Week is well placed as others have noted. That’s what my wife is currently interested in, a weekend when we might get out of the house on a Sunday. She’s no doubt making plans now.
Other than that though, the Schedule is what it is. Its like the weather; deal with it.
Good analogy Brotha.
And just like the weather, the first rule is you can’t predict it well at all. And weathermen (meteorologists) are very often wrong. Just like predicting who is good and bad and at what time they are either/both.
I don’t really have a prediction, but I think those claiming 11-5 are about right. There’s always a surprise, then a letdown. I think Grump’s right that we easily make the playoffs. Seattle could give us a better run for the division than we think. Seattle has a pretty complete team. Their defense is good, and like the 49ers, they are working on building a passing attack, but instead of developing a qb like Harbaugh with Kaep, Seattle went out and picked up Aaron Roger’s backup. The GB qb coach is very good. Just from memory, he was an OC in Buffalo and a HC for a short period of time. He also developed Rogers. People want to compare Flynn to Kolb, but the big reason Kolb is (and will be) a failure isn’t because of talent (or lack there of) but because of concussions. This will plague Kolb his entire career, and keep him from creating any kind of momentum with his career – or his skills. If Flynn gets protection, and Syndey Rice returns to the same level he played at in Minnesota, pre hip injury, the “What’s Your Deal” Bowl twice a year could turn into a really heated rivalry for years to come, with the division crown being decided by things like blocked punts and kick returns. The 49ers are there – despite the inevitable qb controversy. Seattle needs to do a few things to get there.
But the 49ers are in playoff purgatory. Regardless what happens with Seattle, the 49ers will go to the playoffs. No question. Then they’ll lose out to a team with a qb, not reaching the Super Bowl. Some people will be happy with playoffs, others won’t. Count me as a member of the latter. This game, for the 49ers and Jim Harbaugh, is now about one thing – Super Bowls. That’s our standard now. It’s not division crowns or Pro Bowl appearances.
Micheal Lombardi just had a very, very insightful piece on the NFL Network. Lombardi talked about how Bill Walsh would give players little pieces of the playbook, then let them grow and take on more responsibility when they were ready. He pointed to Andy Dalton and Cam Newton. He pointed to the strike-shortened off season as the reason these players played well because their respective coaches weren’t able to inundate them the minutea that clutters the brain and bars performance. All I can do is wonder about the opportunity Colin Kaepernick lost out on last year, or think about the dumbest quarterback to ever wear shoulder pads – Nate Davis. Singletary said he only knew 2/3rds of the playbook. Bill Walsh would have been fine with that. Singletary wasn’t. I intentionally didn’t make that a compound sentence because Singletary and Walsh don’t belong in the same sentence when talking about qb play. Poor Nate. Now he’s at home with his mix and match Garanimals, sharpening crayons instead of his qb skills. Poor us, Kaep lost out on a real opportunity to play while learning like Dalton and Cam. Smith lovers: Whatever.
It’s annoying to think about – Playoff Purgatory. But annoying is my middle name (actually it’s sexy, but who’s counting?). Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right… and here I am, stuck in the middle with you…. that great old Hank Williams song just reminds us that we’ll once again leave the division behind us, and once again be left looking longingly at the Lombardi from afar. That is, until Harbaugh develops us a franchise qb. Which reminds me – what number is JJ going to wear in SF? I need two jerseys. I need to buy me a Colin Kaepernick jersey, and a JJ Jersey, and I need to wear them both on game day, shedding top for bottom if required. ‘Cause really, who knows what the future will bring? A Super Bowl for SF is possible if 11 hits the pine.
The pine is something your mancrush knows a lot about.
And better not spend too much on that CK jersey. Something tells me he is not long for this team.
My opening day QB depth prediction: 1. AS, 2. Tolzien, 3/practice squad: JJ
Are you assuming the Niners trade CK ribico?
Because I don’t see them dropping CK for nothing. Surely he is better than that loser USC Safety guy, Taylor Mayes. And didn’t we get a 7th round pick for him? I just don’t see the Niners/JH/TB giving up completely on CK after 1 year without some sort of compensation.
I could easily see them trading CK for a 1-3rd round pick come draft day though, and I would be ok with it. 4th round pick maybe. 5th and lower, doubtful. Flat out cutting him completely would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Yeah, a trade. I’m not sure what they’d get for him though if there’s word around the league that a QB guru cannot salvage him.
Ribico -
That’s actually kinda witty… “pine away,” mancrush. Well played.
Something tells you CK’s not long for this team? What’s that something? The Nile River? It’s not just a river of Smith love flowing through the cobwebs of your brain. Lest we not forget that Harbaugh flew out to Nevada and worked out Kaep personally. Lest we not forget the 49ers traded up for him.
I’m sure you hate anyone who poses a threat to your beloved 11. And this is why I will torture you.
I doubt JJ is practice squad eligible, FWIW.
JJ isnt practice squad elgible. Tolzien is. You could be very right about CK, they wont cut him he has lots of value to teams like the Browns and Dolphins amongst others. I think CK is going to be a good QB not sure if it is here in Niner land or some other team.
Everyone’s attempt here to support Smith by suggesting a trade for Kaep or practice squad is pathetic. Kaep might start in 2013. Alex Smith is an NFL backup, but not in SF – too much baggage.
Give it up spit.
If they thought CK was starter material right now, they would never have event tried to sign AS back.
You have no reason in your dribble. You don’t sign a back up QB for $8 million. You are the master negotiator. I’d hope you would have figured that out at the very least.
But as I told you before. 4 times the Niners have signed AS. That is 4 times they could have looked someplace else, and at the end, they kept him. And that is what is killing you the most. The fact that there isn’t a better QB out there. And after coming on 8 years and 4 resigns (renegotiations) later, that is still true. That must mean something. Something your little mind can’t/won’t accept.
Ribico, at the end of last season I would have concluded that CK would be here for the long run and perhaps be Alex’ heir-apperant. But now his tenure looks unstable with J.J. in the fold.
J.Johnson gives Harbaugh the same athleticism that CK offers but is more refined and mature. Tolzien could be the X-factor among the three (JJ, CK, Tolz), because of his good pocket presence and above average accuracy.
I like CK (followed him through high school) and feel that he has great potential, but he will need to show a big improvement in TC if he is to stick.
But he may not be trade material based on potential unless we trade him for 5-7 rd pick.
But in my heart of hearts, I would like to see CK tear-it-up in TC and secure his position as the 2nd QB behind Alex. But emotions aside, Harbaugh will keep the best players on the team come September and i’m good with that.
Go 49ers!
The 2012 qb controversy will be between Kaep and JJ.
JJ and Tolzien will be competing for the #3 spot on the depth chart. If Tolzien wins, JJ will be released. If JJ wins, Niners will probably try to get Tolzien on the practice squad.
Tolzien will be traded before the season starts, for a 6th round draft choice, maybe a 7th. JJ will immediately push Alex, which is why JJ was brought in. Kaep will get his shots, probably being relegated to 3rd string snaps. Then it’s just a matter of how far Alex falls down the depth chart, and off the roster.
The 2012 qb controversy will be between Kaep and JJ.
Exactly. Which one will the backup to Alex Smith?
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/49ers-sign-QB-Josh-Johnson-to-two-year-d?blockID=675286&feedID=5936
I’d say Kaep is the backup…. to Smith at 2, with JJ starting. Then next year Smith is gone.
As soon as the 49ers made it clear that they’re looking for Smith’s replacement the Alex crowd started clamoring for CK7 to be traded. It’s kind of funny really.
Plan B is safe this year Smithers. Calm down.
Smith will be the starter on opening day unless he is just awful in the pre-season, and even then he will probably start the first few weeks.
There are going to be battles for positions throughout the roster this year with some very talented players fighting to hang on. Can’t wait for camp to start so we can watch it play out.
This is a serious response, for once…. I never once heard anyone calling for Kaep to be trading when the 49ers were looking at Manning. Never once. And I would know because I’m knee deep in the Smith hater crowd.
Nice try.
……at least JJ knows who the starter is……………”As for Smith’s role as the starter, Johnson said it’s just “common sense. It’s how the industry works. Why wouldn’t he be? He went to the NFC Championship last year.”…”…….
And that’s the right thing to say…..
Clamoring? No, anticipating.
I agree, theres more upside with Tolzien. Trade Ck with the 1st round, to move up to 10th or 11th pick. And JJ will just be a bench warmer..Like he was with Tampa..
The reality here is that Alex Smith is not “long for this team.” Smith’s money is not guaranteed past 2012. If Harbaalke believed that Smith was the long term answer, they’d have given Smith more than a 1 year deal. If Harbaalke believed Smith was the long term answer, they’d never have used a 2nd round pick on Kaep, gone after Hasselbeck or Manning, and they’d never have let Smith hit the open free agent market. The guy who’s not “long for this team,” is actually Alex Smith.
Smith’s money is not guaranteed past 2012.
You sure about that?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/22/clearing-the-air-on-the-alex-smith-deal/
Yeah, I am sure about that. There were a lot of reports, some by the Sac Bee, that reported Smith’s guaranteed money much more than it really was – right after it was announced he signed.
@claude
I have seen that article, then seen others that say different things.
Supposedly the only guaranteed money is signing bonus. But then how is a 2013 salary guaranteed for anybody? Not just AS.
No matter though. AS will be the QB in 2013, because only a stupid organization dumps the QB who lead them to the Super Bowl win. See Baltimore.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/alex-smith/
Notice… no signing bonus.
@ balls: Incorrect, as Maiocco reported the same day. The 2013 salary is only guaranteed if Alex is still on the roster on April 1, 2013.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Full-details-of-Alex-Smiths-contract?blockID=675216&feedID=5936
Florio was largely parroting earlier, incorrect local reports.
Grump – Claude knows. The disinformation game is just as fun as the information game. The more knuckleheads you employ, the more you can torture the opposition. In this case, Claude and DS9 are attempting to drive me insane; however, you can’t rape the willing, and I’ve been out to lunch since … they invented lunch.
“…drive me insane;…”
No.
No need to drive you anywhere where you already are spit.
You are the one thinking about naked men and sheep and AS and Jed York 24-7. That is pretty good evidence you are insane before claude and myself ever wrote a single post to you.
@Grumpy Guy:
I am aware of Maioccco’s report, but I always go with the PFT numbers in case of a conflict. Florio is rarely, if ever, wrong on contract numbers (and corrects himself when he is). Moreover, he was not merely “parroting” earlier local reports. He had a source with direct knowledge of the real numbers.
In addition, both the the AP and Jason LaCanfora independently reported that the 2013 salary is guaranteed. I have yet to see any independent report confirming Maiocco’s version. Perhaps you can provide a link.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/alex-smith/
@Spitblood:
Protrac does not appear to have access to NFL contract information or to do any independent research/reporting of its own, but instead copies its numbers from others. According to the website, its sources for NFL contract information are USAToday and Rotoworld.
Although it did not have a year-by-year breakdown, USAToday reported that Smith received $16.5 million guaranteed, which is consistent with the 2013 salary being guaranteed. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/niners/story/2012-03-22/alex-smith-officially-resigns-three-year-cotnract/53696526/1
Rotoworld does not indicate where its numbers come from, but gives no reason to believe that it performs any independent research.
Care to try again?
Sure…. But I thought it worked the first two times…. just in case.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/alex-smith/
As I thought, you have nothing. It’s hard having to find factual support for your arguments, isn’t it?
Here’s something else to chew on since you insist on opining about Alex Smith’s likely tenure:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/49ers-sign-QB-Josh-Johnson-to-two-year-d?blockID=675286&feedID=5936
Apparently, the 49ers told Josh Johnson that they signed him to compete with CK for the backup spot.
Of course, the article was written by Maiocco, and he likely was wrong about Smith’s contract numbers, so maybe you can dismiss this report as more erroneous reporting.
@Spit,
Where do you get your idiotic assumptions? You sound ignorant, reading your comments you sound pretty darn stupid.. You and 23jordan should be in the hall fame dumb and dumber..lol
Zito – you a Zito fan and an Alex Smith fan? Talk about a love for losers.
You guys tried to sell Alex Smith out this year – made a run at Manning! You think Alex is going to be committed to the team this year?
yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Whatever.
Your profile picture probably, looks like you after getting your brain shock !
Zito,
Thats funny ! It looks like he got electrocuted..lol !
When are you two due back in Boys’ Town?
Spit,
How about you, when are you going back to the psychiatric ward for your treatment?
They said June, but I’m thinking May…. I’m body’s building up a quick tolerance to the meds.
Hey Spit ! while your at the boys town, can you please buy some cookies to help out boys…so you can do a good deed..
They don’t let me near Boy Scouts, Girls Scouts or Boys’ Town. Not after that trip to Manilla. Now really, are you a Zito fan, or just trolling?
Spit,
I understand you now, you’re one them who can’t be around innocent childrens?
no wonder, why Spit can get near the boys town and girls town aswell…
You’re not playing with a full deck, eh? That’s okay. Many of us aren’t.
Come on guys. You gotta raise your insult game a little. You’re all playing at the Crabtree / Rachel level right now.
I got Manilla boy to shutup and Zito didn’t even catch the insults. I think I’m playin’ like Eli Manning…
@Spit, You trying tobe a comic? You’ve got to do alot better than that, to make me shut up ! hahaha
Do they have call boys in Manilla? If so, call me….
Manila,
This guy Spit is one stupid individual. His idiotic comment makes no sense at all. You’re better off just to ignore this guys comment.
Zito,
I agree, this guy likes boys… his talking about cold boys now… he probably needs an extra dosage of the anxiety disorder medication..lol
Zito,
Later man ! Back to work..
Ok dude ! I have to run also..going to the gym..
ok… see you guys later…. call me….
You’re a one sorry individual, get a freeakin life man..
Im actually embarrassed for Zito and Mannila. WOW!
@ninermd,
You sound like alittle girl ! How in the heck did you get involved with these people argueing?
Hey Claude – Did you know Hank Williams wrote, “Stuck in the Middle With You?” Bet you didn’t know that…
Spit, Can’t help to make a comment in your past post.
Did it ever cross your mind, if the 49ers were really thinkng parting ways with A. Smith, would go to all these trouble in resigning him? And giving him a guaranteed contract of 8 million for 3 years and incentives.
You’re saying JJ is going tobe the 49er starter? Why would the 49ers go to all this trouble? They couldv’e gotten JJ at bargain price, before they made a deal with Alex Smith. Sometimes it just makes me wonder, why people like yourself, keep on mention about the contract that you and the others don’t even know whats on it? All of you just rely from others for information, sometimes others information given is inaccurate.The 49ers management and players agent won’t give out specific information.
“But for another 1st round pick to go the way of the OL, they had better be good. ”
When I read this I still get the impression that they need to be good because of the previous picks that we’ve made and I know you’re more the keen enough to understand that there really shouldn’t be any correlation. Now I can understand if you accept that you are assigning a personal reason correlation but if not then I think you need to have just a bit more patience if we do end up OL.
No argument can be made really about allowing VD to run more routes I think we’ve all been screaming for that to happen since we drafted him. I do point out thought that we need a guard and although the whole line tends to work as a unit the TE of course sits outside of the OT so if we do get a new guard although there will be an overall impact for VD I don’t see that player being the piece that allows Davis to run free even if he is a pro bowler from day one.
damn this was supposed to be a reply to DS not a new post. I suck at this sometimes.
Lol. It is a little confusing. Just address whomever, like “DS,” and then let the horse cookies fall where they may…
It happens. Luckily I saw your reply in the recent comments section with my quotes. Otherwise I may not have seen the reply for a long time.
@Faithful
I know it was a different era and all that, but in the Dynasty days, the Niners spent like 1 or 2 #1′s on OL over a 16 or so year period. And JM and SY (first half of his career) had plenty of time to sit back and pick apart defenses more often than not.
How many other teams have spent 4 #1′s (their own, not former #1′s from other teams) within the past, what, 6 years? And how well has our OL performed next to them?
Now, I have seen several former Niner OL get cut/not resigned and go to other teams and play pretty decently on OL’s that as a whole are just better than ours has been. That really pisses me off. Why weren’t they so good here? Was it our horrible coaching staff? Why!
So, when I see that many #1′s go to the same unit, I need to see some awesome performance. And, I do disagree with you about the 5 different positions thing. The OL is the most cohesive unit on a football team. More than any other, they do depend on the other OL to play well. Much more so than the WR/RB/TE positions where their performance is much more individual from the other WR/RB/TE. So, when it comes to the OL, I grade the unit (all 5) much more so than I grade the units of the RB/WR/TE.
And I feel the reason why VD was not running more routes was to help the OL. That is why I need to see them step up their game, so that others around them can step up their game as well. And that is the reason why I wanted LF (dream)/Wallace (still give up a 1st for him) so badly on this team. With those players, teams would not be so willing to blitz/stack the box as they are now, and that would in turn help out the OL which would help out AS, which helps out the playmakers which helps out the OL and the circle continues.
“I do disagree with you about the 5 different positions thing. The OL is the most cohesive unit on a football team. More than any other, they do depend on the other OL to play well. Much more so than the WR/RB/TE positions where their performance is much more individual from the other WR/RB/TE. So, when it comes to the OL, I grade the unit (all 5) much more so than I grade the units of the RB/WR/TE.”
Well I agree with that as well so I’m not sure what we are disagreeing upon, your phrasing makes me think I worded something wrong or maybe you misunderstood how I put something, either way it appears we agree so it’s moot probably.
Where I see us drafting this year I’d be OK if we took another OL and I’d be OK if he was only average/good his first year because I just don’t expect much more from rookies of any position expect maybe running back. Second year lineman should be night/day better then their first year imo. I’d also be OK if we didn’t go OL but I’d be upset if we didn’t take one with our second pick if we chose not to with our first.
I’m very uncomfortable with the right side of our line, even though others have convinced me to give him more time I don’t have much faith in Anthony Davis and as far as I’m concerned we simply don’t have a right guard at the moment, everything I’ve read and heard suggests that Kilgore is our future center. The guards that could be available for us at the bottom of round one are all very good options at that pick and regardless of what we’ve done in year pasts the b.p.a. could be one of our biggest needs and anytime b.p.a. and need match up you pull the trigger.
@faithful
“I’m not sure what we are disagreeing upon”
Your first paragraph of your April 18, 2012 at 8:53 am post is where I derived my thoughts on that issue from.
As for who/what position we draft, I am ok with whatever we do. I don’t watch college football, and even if I did, I know I didn’t see all the hundreds of schools with eligible players, and even if I did, I in no way think I can tell who is going to be good in the NFL and who won’t be. So, I just go for the ride and cheer for whomever we get. Somehow I wouldn’t be surprised if the Niners drafted a defensive player in round 1 this year even though it was clearly our offense which needs lots of help. And for TB to go WR heavy with picks in the mid rounds. If they don’t work out, we don’t lose a lot of money/time in developing them. TB made some comments right after the season that there are a lot of good WR’s in this coming draft to be had in the later rounds, and I suspect we draft WR(s) then and not in the first round.
All of your points are good ones, even if I don’t agree with them all.
…@DS……”seen several former Niner OL get cut/not resigned and go to other teams and play pretty decently on OL’s “………any names?…..the ones i have in mind sucked or were average on other teams….none i could recall made the probowl
@oneniner
I don’t follow ex-Niner players all the closely, so I doubt they made the Pro Bowl.
But Smiley comes to mind as a decent OL. Didn’t he go to Miami. I also liked Snyder a lot. But he Niners really screwed him up trying him at RT. He is a Guard all the way.
There are some others. Just can’t think of any at the moment. Seems to me that we just let a lot of guys who started for other teams over the years while their replacements haven’t made us a whole lot better. Our OL has been well below average for most of the past 12 years or so. Probably further back even (1997 or so when SY got hammered a ton). If we had an average OL all this time, we would have won the division a lot sooner.
Singletary said he only knew 2/3rds of the playbook.
Which is 2/3rds more than Singletary knew. Wait, they had a playbook? Who knew!
Which is 2/3rds more than Singletary knew.
Nice.
Very nice.
Jimmy Raye had a playbook. Unfortunately, it was written in the original Sumerian. Translation time caused a lot of Delay of Game penalties.
They did have a playbook. Singletary and Raye were out one morning, walking amoungst the dinosaurs, clubs in hand, when Raye looked down in the snow covered ground and found a fossilized playbook. Now mind you, they were already in the dinosaur era. This was a fossil in the dinosaur era…. and that’s old. We’re talkin’ a playbook way, way before leather helmets. There was no forward pass in the this fossilized playbook, which was perfect anyway because our qb is only fit to throw clay pigeons at the local trap club. PULL!!!
Sing wanted to bring back the days of Red Grange and the Wing T.
Jimmy Raye playbook
Play #1 21-formation. Hand to gore and run through a-gap. *note* Always run this play on first and second down no matter the yardage or score.
Play #2 Shotgun. Always pass out of this formation and always use it on 3rd down regardless of distance. Send all the receivers on 9 routes regardless of their speed and who’s covering them and then send the TE up 5 yards and across the middle and let the running back hang out in the flat. *note* instruct the QB to always look and throw first to the RB in the flat regardless of how open any of the other options are. If running back falls down then look for TE over the middle if you haven’t been sacked yet.
@faithful
“…if you haven’t been sacked yet.”
I would add
“…if you haven’t been sacked yet, just stare in awe and wonder. Because your coach has assumed that you will have been sacked, he didn’t give you any other reads.”
Chilo Rachel is gone to the Bears. He is the last of the 2008 draft to be gone. Larry Grant part of that draft who left and now is back is the only remaining player on the team from that draft.
Good, now I know exactly where we’ll send the pass rush in week #11.
@Faithful
Watch Chilo suddenly turn into a good OL per our previous conversation. That would really suck.
No kidding. Dog pile on Chilo.
lol u bet
“Everybody, go through the Turnstyle…”
@DS,
Yeah I’m not too worried about that ;)
Haha!! Chicagos line has been worse than ours over the last couple of years and if they think they are actually improving by signing this character, there’ve lost their rabbit! They must be running around screaming “here rabbit rabbit” Boy am I glad he’s gone. NFL network should chronicle “worst linemen ever”. Right up there with the football follies and bloopers.
I think everyone is being too hard on Rachal. He had a different coordinator every year and horrible coaching and bad teammates on the offensive line.
He should be given another 2-3 years of sucking before we make a judgement about him.
^^^^ Guaranteed Smith fan ^^^^^^
And as usual you are wrong Spit. Msc is not a Smith fan in the least. What he is, is sarcastic and quite funny at times. Take some lessons.
You should take some lessons…. from me. I don’t know what msclemons is, but I do know what he outlined was a classic Smith apology. And if I can outline one and make fun of it, I’m gonna.
Spitblood calling msc a Smith apologist is one of the funniest things I have read on here since…2:10, that VD, Crabs hit still makes me chuckle.
Just heard from Matt Barrows that Coby Fleener won’t be at the 49ers Pro Day: http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/04/cals-marvin-jones-others-wont-be-at-49ers-local-pro-day.html
Does that mean that the 9ers aren’t interested in him, or are they just playing their cards close?
They attended the Stanford Pro day along with JH’s own personal information and tape I’m sure they’ve seen all they need to. It’s not like it’s a toss-up between him and another player and you need to see more of him to make the decision.
It just said that he wouldn’t work out, but it’s not a big deal. He has already done that at his pro day.
Why do they need to see him? They know what he is capable of as they coached him already.
Ben,
No prospects that are considered first rounders will work out at the pro day. It’s really for the mid and late round guys more than anything.
Week 2 Sept 16th – Shake-down II
http://www.nfl.com/videos/san-francisco-49ers/09000d5d8285a5c2/Detroit-Lions-vs-San-Francisco-49ers-movie-trailer
Good times…
http://media.photobucket.com/image/jim%20schwartz%20jim%20harbaugh%20handshake/jimrat204/Picture3-10.png
omg I wish I could blow this up and bring it to the Lions game.
@ Faithful:
Who says you can’t?
I do not expect as close a game this time around.
Cause then I’d be one of those a-holes that blocks the view of the 6 people behind me because I want my 15 seconds on the jumbo tron and that I usually end up yelling at to sit the F down cause I didn’t pay $125 to stare at the back of his chartreuse poster board.
j/k if I had tickets I’d probably do it.
oh i did it again. /quit
http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/4/18/2955650/coby-fleener-san-francisco-49ers-2012-nfl-draft#storyjump
Check out this sport science video of Mr. Fleener. I can’t argue with science…with the 30th overall pick the San Francisco Forty Niners select Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford.
Lol, I saw the Sports Science with Colin Kaepernick. The glasses the QB’s wear look like something out of Ghostbusters.
http://wn.com/Sport_Science_Tests_Nevada_Quarterback_Colin_Kaepernick%27s_Accuracy
I saw that on ESPN couple of days ago it was very very impressive. I say do whatever you have to do to get this guy.
I believe we should pull the trigger on Mr. Fleener as well Mr. Undercenter. Any medical concerns I had were alleviated after I saw him pull the 2 Sumo Wrestlers off their feet.
Finally getting some love over at ESPN.com. 3 of the 10 top matchups next season feature the good guys. In a poll, 48% pick Niners/Packers as the #1 matchup in week 1, handily beating Cowboys/Giants and Steelers/Broncos.
hearing that Chilo Rachal has signed with the Bears.
I’m not sure which is better: not having to watch him whiff on a block, or not having to hear the constant whining about his play on this site!
Hopefully he has earned a starting job with the Bears by November 19th.
4 of the last 6 games are on the road. This could pose a challenge. Typically teams that get hot toward the end of the season make a deep playoff run. The number of road games at the end of the season is a concern and could cause problems.
Yes, but then they get to come home for the playoffs with a 1st or 2nd seed and a first round bye. If Alex is the qb, hope their opponent turns the ball over 5 times ….. again.
Dreaming again, but you might get a playoff win if your opponent gives the game away and spots you 17 pts and gives you 5 turnovers. SF would be pretty sad if they didn’t win with all those gifts! Oh, I forgot, it almost happened last year – at home no less!
And one of them against the Saints! We’re waiting!
Grant – I’d love to see you blog on the 49er ticket prices, especially after the S.F. Chronicle article today.
Josh Johnson commenting on Vernon Davis and Delaine Walker
Said Johnson to the duo: “You all run like receivers. That’s something new for me. You’ve got to treat them like receivers.”