Baalke: “You’ve got to be prepared to make the pick at 30, which we’re prepared to do.”

I just got home from Trent Baalke’s pre-draft press conference at which he didn’t say much of anything. That’s OK – I expected him to say nothing. What was he supposed to say? Who he’s hoping to draft?

If you’re interested in what he had to say about his first round pick, I transcribed that part below. I pass it along without comment, and if you guys would like to discuss go ahead. I’m going to move past it. I’ll post a blog in a couple hours on the top-10 pass catchers in the draft.

Back at you soon.

Baalke: “We have one person that we feel real good about that if we’re not able to make some moves, if we choose to do that, whether it be up or back. You’ve got to be prepared to make the pick at 30, which we’re prepared to do. You just see how the board falls. We certainly have more than one person. But there is one in particular that we feel will be there. And if he is, we’ll be prepared to make the pick.

“Are we expecting production out of the 30th pick? Yeah, to the level of that pick. Absolutely.”

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158 Responses to Baalke: “You’ve got to be prepared to make the pick at 30, which we’re prepared to do.”

  1. Spitblood says:

    My sources tell me he was referring to Alshon Jeffrey. My sources are legit.

  2. Stan says:

    Lord,let the 49ers trade up to Blackmon.
    Btw,Why if the 49ers are so forgiving it turns out,didn’t they sign T.O.last year when they were down to Punt pass and Kick level talent at WR?

  3. Dominic says:

    Its going to be fun to see who he was talking about. I can’t wait for the draft. Its driving me crazy. Haha.

  4. Htesrepus says:

    Hmmm well he used the word “we” seven times, so we have to focus on that. If you run a continuous loop of the “we”‘s consecutively on tape and play them at 1.5 speed, it sounds like you’re slightly excited and french. However, if you play that same tape backwards at 1/2 speed it sounds like a person that somehow just stepped in dog poop while tying their shoe. So we have three clues: Excited, French and disgusted. All of these clues absolutely point to none other than last years LSU Tigers, which means that the 49ers clearly have Les Miles targeted as their #30 pick. Now that’s legit.

  5. Stan says:

    Joe Looney,guard. A headline writers dream.

    • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

      Is Joe Looney any relation to Joe Don Looney, running back in the mid sixties? What a story he was.

      • stan says:

        Ah!..I thought I knew that name. JDL..A blast from the past. Cowboys wasn’t it?
        thanks!

      • Brotha Tuna says:

        Don’t know if he’s related, but Joe Don Looney played for Balt Colts, didn’t he? RB-FB-ST-Punter. Rebel without a clue.

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        I hope someone reads this because it’s a great story. Joe Don Looney was drafted by the NYG back in 1964 I believe. He was a high draft pick but was cut because he went to the beat of a different drummer. Hooked up with the Baltimore Colts and then went into oblivion, He

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        Sorry got cut off, well, Looney wound up being drafted into the Army and went to Vietnam, came back, failed again in pro football and then went to India. He became a disciple of Swami Muktananda (great spiritual leader of his time, who started Siddha Yoga). Now the Swami saw this angry young man and put him in charge of taking care of his elephant. He would feed and bathe the elephant e

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        Sorry I’m getting used to a new computer, back to the story, and working with the elephant was a spiritual test. He wound up dying in a motorcycle accident in Texas and lived somewhat of a more peaceful life in seclusion his last years. Thanks.

  6. Jack Hammer says:

    Another comment Baalke made today regarding Kyle Williams, “”We’re very confident in his ability. We’re very confident in Ted Ginn. And we’ve added a couple of other guys that have some experience as a return people in the National Football League. And with the draft, we might address it (return game) even deeper.”

    Perrish Cox has experience as a returner. Who else of the players they brought in has been a return man?

    As for the draft, they could be looking at Isaiah Pead out of Cincinnati, a RB who blew up at the Senior Bowl in the run game. He has already made a visit too. Or maybe Joe Adams from Arkansas, who also dominated as a return man in the SEC and had a very good Senior Bowl as a receiver.

    • NickRow says:

      The former Oakland Raider RB

    • NickRow says:

      Chris Owusu would be a solid return guy and a decent WR if we can pick him up in the mid to later rounds.

      • hightop says:

        He’ll be there later rounds most likely -I like this idea!

      • Stan says:

        He of the many concussions? I saw one where..he just wasn’t hit very hard for college ball…but it knocked him out.

      • Faithful says:

        I like the kid too but he’s the next Jahvid Best as far as he’s only one or two head hits away form an early retirement.

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        I think teams will shy away from players with multiple concussion history. I see Alex Karas is bringing a lawsuit regarding his injury history from 50 years ago. These lawsuits remind me of ones brought against cigarette manufacturers, all you need is one to against the NFL and the floodgates will be opened.

    • undercenter says:

      Finally someone else mentioning Joe Adams, he should be around for the third round. I have been on his bandwagon for couple of months now. He is very much like Ginn with better hands and led the nation in returns. He makes seperation and runs good routes.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @undercenter

        1. Runs fast
        2. Good hands (are you saying he does not drop the ball and or that he makes great catches?)
        3. Gets separation.

        Why one earth would be still be around after round 1? Round 2 even.

      • undercenter says:

        @DS
        He doesnt drop the ball, we all know all of them drop balls on occasion. As why he isnt going in the first or second, you got me, he isnt a big man he is very much like Ginn. He is flying under the radar I never hear his name but he is going to make some team very happy.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        undercenter,

        Adams is projected to go in Round 4 or 5.

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        Joe Adams, 5’11″ 179, best 40 time 4.42. I think the Niners want a bigger guy,

    • DS94everXev says:

      @Jack

      Well, TB is consistent with his praise of KW. I said that the Niners may not dump him after the Giants loss. Then I read an article on SFGATE where TB says nice stuff about KW. He didn’t need to do that at all.

      I said don’t be surprised if KW is wearing a Niner uniform come the start of the season, and that is looking just a little more likely now.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        @DS, With KW it all depends on where they go in the draft. Right now he is #5 on the depth chart and will add another receiver for him to compete with for that spot through the draft. His fate will play out on the field.

        As for TB saying nice things about KW, you need to take that with a large grain of salt. TB/Harbaugh don’t say anything negative about their players to the media, they keep that in house just like it should be.

        Besides, why should we believe anything these guys say? At the first post season press conference Harbaugh told everyone, “Alex is our guy” and then they went and tried to replace him with Peyton Manning.

        Anytime the guys talk to the media you need to realize that 99.9% of what they say is hyperbole.

      • DS94everXev says:

        My point Jack was that TB didn’t have to compliment the guy at all.

        A GM/person (I feel there is a need to distinguish the two at times) has 3 choices when talking about somebody:

        1. Compliment them
        2. Put them down.
        3. Not discuss them in any detail at all.

        I don’t expect TB to ever do #2. But, I do distinguish a difference between 1 and 3. TB could have said nothing, or very little. Something along the lines that we are evaluating all our players would have been an acceptable answer. But he didn’t do that. Instead he seemed very complimentary of him.

        It was also discussed that TB was not happy with MC in that same article. It didn’t say anything about trading/cutting him. But Eric Branch (I believe was the writer) got the sign that TB was not happy with MC.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        DS, Baalke and Harbaugh are never going to say anything bad about their guys. Most likely the 49ers will draft a receiver who will beat Williams out for a roster spot and he will ride off into the sunset…

      • DS94everXev says:

        Or Jack..

        KW and the new guy beat out MC in Training Camp for the #3 spot and MC asks for a trade which the Niners grant. And trade to Dallas for a conditional 3rd round pick in 2013.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        DS, De Plane boss De Plane, Please enjoy your stay on Fantasy Island…

      • DS94everXev says:

        @Jack

        You’re the one who wants to look at improvement all the time.

        KW got better as the year progressed. MC has not improved. He is what he is. His foot injury isn’t going away.

        KW has a larger up arrow than MC. So, yes. The plane is likely flying higher for KW than it is for MC.

        KW gets open every once in awhile because of his skills. And a better attitude. A healthy KW maybe just as good as MC. And KW has some burst. MC does not.

        And Fantasy Island would be a nicer place than this blog. If you have a ticket, I’ll take it.

    • undercenter says:

      @Jack

      Wow last I saw was high 2nd low 3rd, how things change in short time, or maybe who ever is doing the mocking.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        @undercenter,

        It depends on which board you look at, but I have seen him as high as a solid 3 and as low as 5.

        I think at some point they will take an offensive skill guy that can develop and take over Ginn’s role for good in 2013.

  7. Walter Sasiadek says:

    Baalke is a shrewd dude and it wouldn’t surprise me if he has already spoken to a team or 2 to trade up if necessary.

    My gut says he’ll move up ahead od Denver & Houston to nab Fleener.

    • Spitblood says:

      AP is reporting Baalke already has Fleener under contract. Can he do that?

      • Faithful says:

        I don’t think you can count Grant stalking Fleener with a napkin and a ball point pen as ‘under contract’

      • Brotha tuna says:

        Nope. The team with the 1st overall pick can negotiate before the draft, but it would waste everybody’s time for the team drafting #30 to do so.

    • Faithful says:

      Most draft trade discussions begin in the month leading up to the draft especially during these last couple weeks. A GM will call another and say “If our guy is there when you pick would you be willing to move?” and based on his response either a conversation takes place or not. The GM will make many of these calls to teams around the same pick just so he knows who will or wont be willing to play ball on draft day. More often then not these discussions are just ‘yes/no’ type talks without any compensation really being discussed. On draft day if the GM makes the call to one of the teams he previously called then they will talk about compensation.

      This isn’t how all trades go down but nearly 1/2 of trades made that day or more will have already been discussed with those teams in the weeks before.

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        Faithful you have a point, but lots of times a move is made that affects teams looking to make a move beneath them. There’s plenty of talk and action between picks.

  8. Domingo says:

    Classic case of your teams G.M. blowing Smoke out his Wazzo.

    • f49er says:

      Either that OR….

      He’s singled out a Player he knows will be there at #30 that he & the 49ers Graded out better than any other NFL Team?

      Like Aldon Smith last year where people were saying “who?” “what?”

      Seems to me Baalke has his man & this player is clearly wayyy under the Radar. Man another week of this torture!

    • domingo says:

      Baalke is trying to bait someone into trading up ahead of us.

  9. Faithful says:

    Here’s what I find interesting: “…Yeah, to the level of that pick”

    that’s a very interesting way to suggest that even within the top 30 players there is a noticeable range and difference of talent.

    I’m also not sure if he’s saying that we’re hoping our guy will be there at #30 or if he’s saying that he’ll move to get him it sounds like he says both.

  10. undercenter says:

    Couple of excerpts from Josh Johnson

    What do you bring best?

    “I bring different things. I feel I play above the neck. That’s the most important part of the quarterback position. And I can do some things with my feet when need be. It’s about getting completions. That’s how it’s always been.”

    What are your thoughts on throwing to the wideouts and tight ends?

    “Impressive. I was telling Delanie (Walker) andVernon(Davis), ‘Y’all are like receivers.’ That’s something new for me. You’ve got to treat them like receivers. You can do special things with guys who get down the field like that.”

    • DS94everXev says:

      “I feel I play above the neck. That’s the most important part of the quarterback position.”

      Hey spit. Look what an actual QB in the NFL said. That means not doing stupid things, like committing TO’s. Accuracy is more of a mechanics issue.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Oh. And guess who was this guys QB coach when he was in college and was playing rather nicely? Go on. I’ll give you a second to mull it over.

      • rec49er says:

        Hey DS94everXev,

        “Look what an actual QB in the NFL said”? As compared to who? You consider JJ an actual QB? Have you seen his pro stats?

        Oh, and by the way JJ was good in college because he played a a division II school. JJ has not done anything in the pros, and if he was any good he would have shown something by now.

      • 23jordan says:

        Rec49er,

        You mean Josh should be a pro bowler or be elite right now like Alex Smith? You are clueless. What would you know? I’ll just wait for camp and preseason.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @rec49er

        I have no opinion on JJ at all. I have not seen him play at all. And I have not seen him play as a Niner (nobody has). That last one is the only one that matters.

        A few people who I admire on this blog like JJ. One person who didn’t keep their promise (welcher boy) likes him as well. My basic response is to do the opposite of what welcher boy says, and it will lead you to the correct answer. The fact that I don’t hate JJ and that some here who I admire like him though will hold me back from judging the kid before I ever see him.

        AS will start as the Niner QB. AS will win a Super Bowl. To me it is just a matter of who is the #2. And personally, I like Tolzeins smarts. You don’t need a great arm in the NFL to be a good QB. This holds especially true for WCO guys. Smarts and accuracy are relished more so than strong arm and athleticism.

      • TIM says:

        I agree DS,that a QB doesn’t NEED a great arm to be a great QB in the NFL,but it sure helps. Accuracy and leadership and making something out of nothing when the drive(3rd and long etc) or the game is on the line also comes from great QB’s. We have 4 smart guys on the roster at QB right now,so I am not so worried about which one has the most smarts but which one has the most on the field playmaking smarts.

  11. Hoferfan67 says:

    Is it a TB smoke screen or the real deal? Hmmm.

    They know they need help on offense and there isn’t a WR that is a guaranteed CJ or AJ or fill in the blank. The only RB worth taking in the 1st round is TRichardson and they won’t be able to move to top 6. That leaves a guard or the best receiver (TE) available. They could make a move for DeCastro but will he help this year?? Possibly. The best guess is CF. Only 8 days away…OOH RAH!!!

    • Jack Hammer says:

      Don’t be surprised if they don’t draft an O-lineman in this draft. I think they will let the starting RG spot sort itself out between the guys they have in house.

      • TIM says:

        Or they may pick up a vet free agent O lineman after the draft when some players are cut? Either way there will be competition at the RG spot.

      • Grant Cohn says:

        They should pick up a vet after the draft to compete with Kilgore. Baalke should not draft a guard.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Agree Tim, but it doesn’t appear that any of the free agents want to sign yet. Look for that to happen late, (June/July).

    • EB Niner says:

      You didn’t mention any defensive players. Granted, they may not start, but they could have a regular situational role. …it all remains to be seen!

    • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

      I think Doug Martin is a solid pick at 30, and he’s a 3 down back.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Doug Martin is a middle of Round 2 guy at best. The only way the 49ers draft a RB this year is if he can also be a part of the return game.

        My guess is that they don’t draft a back, and sign Travaris Cadet from Applalachian St as an undrafted free agent.

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        Jack you have to take into account where the organization thinks Frank Gore is at physically. If you use the Bill Walsh axiom to get rid of a player a year sooner rather than later, where would you say Frank is at? I’m not saying to get rid of Frank by any means, but if he hits wall the team will lack a full time back.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Which is why they have Kendall Hunter, Brandon Jacobs and Anthony Dixon. RB’s are a dime a dozen, and you only draft one, especially within the first 2 days if you are expecting him to start right away. They don’t take time to develop, they take off from day one.

        They won’t draft a RB, but will find 1 or 2 they like after the draft…

  12. Faithful says:

    Grant I hope you have a support group in place a week from tomorrow for when/if the 49ers don’t draft either Fleener or a WR because you’re commitment to that position has been almost neurotic.

  13. Faithful says:

    @Spit

    Your sources just called me and said that we are moving up for Stephen Hill and that they have no idea where you got that Alshon Jeffrey nonsense.

    they also said you gave them the clap…

  14. NickRow says:

    Due to durability concerns, TY Hilton (WR, Florida International, 5-10, 183) is projected to go in rounds 4-5. I think this kids has lots of potential. CBS Sports calls Hilton the most explosive athlete in this draft class and might be worth a look.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1638761/ty-hilton

    • Rusty_in_OC says:

      Thanks for the link, Nick. Explosive, yes, but the rest of the comments are a little worrisome… As you mentioned, “… strong durability concerns hurts his NFL future, including a hamstring issue that kept him out of any all-star games and the combine. He battled injuries over his career and his frail-looking frame creates concern with NFL teams”

  15. Grumpy Guy says:

    “You’ve got to be prepared to screw the ugly girl who’s left in the bar at 2 AM, which we’re prepared to do.”

    • Hightop says:

      GENTLEMEN PUT ON YOUR SCUBA GEAR.

      • Grumpy Guy says:

        “We have one person that we feel real good about that if we’re not able to make some moves, if we choose to do that, whether it be up or back. You’ve got to be prepared to take the chick at 2, which we’re prepared to do. You just see how the bar falls. We certainly have more than one person. But there is one in particular that we feel will be there. And if she is, we’ll be prepared to take the chick home.

        “Are we expecting production out of the 2AM chick? Yeah, to the level of that time on the clock. Absolutely.”

    • rocket says:

      Profound. We have some really deep thinkers here.

    • Hightop says:

      Grumpy is that you???

    • Grumpy Guy says:

      My point, and I think I do have one, is that there are no ‘sure thing’, unflawed players at 30. We ain’t going home with Megan Fox, so pick some chick with a nice rack and potential and make the best of it.

    • NickRow says:

      Nice one Grumpy, but why can’t they just go home alone?

    • EcoEnrico says:

      Hey Grumpy, stop talking about DS94 like that

      • DS94everXev says:

        Megan Fox sucks. She is a dunce.

        Natalie Portman is much more appealing. Brains and beauty and…she can actually act!

      • Andrew from Rishikesh says:

        I just saw Black Swan, she must have been no more than 90lbs for that movie.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @Andrew

        She still looked fit.
        And did you see her at the Academy Awards? Easily the best looking one there.

        Keep in mind she is not a tall girl. So 90 lbs is not that hard to achieve. And keep in mind ballerinas are thin. Watch her in just about any other film (-The Professional) like “No Strings Attached” and she looks plenty fine. And that movie was made last year in 2011 after “Black Swan”. So she got her normal hot body back.

        Of course she is still one smart girl. Fox…not so much. So, I’d take the one with beauty and brains over just beauty.

        Plus Fox has no life in her eyes. She looks like the undead when she stares into the camera. Like she sold her soul. Judging by her great acting in “Transformers” I just might be onto something.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @Andrew

        Natalie Portman is 5′ 3″. So a 90lb woman who is 5’3″ is well within a healthy weight.

      • Faithful says:

        Actually, a female that is 5’3″ weighing 90lbs has a bmi of 15.9 which is considered ‘underweight’.

      • Faithful says:

        Oops sorry, 15.9 is considered “severely underweight.”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index

        Not sure what culture or time period you are referencing but 90lbs on 5’3″ is damn skinny.

      • Grumpy Guy says:

        DS- Sorry…. did not realize you were looking for the love of your life. Gist of the thread was somewhat different. Megan’s fine, just keep her busy so she doesn’t talk, take her to a motel, and don’t give her your real number because that chick is flat out nuts. Nice rack, though.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Faithful

        Asian women who are not frying a lot are typically small framed, short and especially in their 20′s don’t weigh a lot. Just look around.

        Plus, you need to keep in mind that she was basically an athlete in that movie. A football player does not have a great BMI. Your average 250lb guy can’t run a 4.7 40 and bench 250lbs 20+ times in 1 set either. BMI is a stat deal. Not a health/biological measurement. If every 250lb guy looked like PW, 250lb would not be considered fat.

        @Grumpy

        Why not skip the freaky stupid chick and go for the smarter hottie? Unless you don’t think you stand a chance with her because you know you’re not smart. If so, go back to college, get smart, then go for the smart hottie. Why settle?

        You men are really messed up. You freak out about who the QB on a team is, but don’t hold similar standards to yourself and your partner with whom you will actually have to be around the rest of your lives with. Anybody see a paradox here?

      • Faithful says:

        @DS

        What Makes Narcissists Tick: Arguing Just to Argue

        this = you

      • claude balls says:

        @Grumpy:

        I hear what you are saying about Natalie Portman, but she gets many so many bonus points for this, it’s as if she were built like Kate Upton:

        http://www.hulu.com/watch/1404/saturday-night-live-snl-digital-short-natalie-raps

      • claude balls says:

        @Grant:

        Wow, that was quick.

        You know that my comment (the one you just deleted) was a joke, right?

      • DS94everXev says:

        @faithful

        Huhhh?

        You asked what population of women would not be considered ultra skinny, and I gave you one. And in my experience, it is not that out of the norm for this population to be around 5’3″ and weigh around 90lbs. Wasn’t arguing about anything with you. Simply answering your question.

  16. Hightop says:

    God I hope 49ergirl isn’t reading this goofy thread.

  17. Ed Luva says:

    Why don’t we ever talk about other new additions to the team?

    http://www.49ers.com/gold-rush/squad.html

    Thank you ladies.

    • Fourth & Alex says:

      Alexandria, yep. The rest, I dunno..

      • Fourth & Alex says:

        Nevermind what I said. The whole lot of the might qualify as slump busters lol. On a more serious note, kinda sad really. Some of the other teams around the NFL have serious eye candy.

  18. Frank M. Solorzano says:

    I think the player is Randle. If he’s gone it’ll be Fleener. JMO.

  19. fesnyc says:

    the gaping hole on this team is RG. every other position has a proven veteran. the choices the media is offering (ie Baalke is leaking) here are untested, possibly undersized (Kilgore), or out of position (Boone, a shift to G for Davis). we know from watching Chilo and his predecessors (when Synder wasnt filling in) that one weak link on the OL and you’re scuffling all game long.

    i’d love to have Fleener, as i would have loved to have DeShaun Jackson and Aaron Rodgers. But this team goes nowhere if we’re whiffing at RG all game long.

    even top picks are a crap shoot, as Chilo Rachal, Kwame Harris, and lots of other failed OL picks in rounds 1-2 have shown.

    until this team fills RG with a solid pickup, (draft or FA) all talk about receivers is nonsense. Alex has a hard enough time finding a receiver when he has time – if he gets constant pressure up the gut, he could have a 22 year old Randy Moss and he wouldnt find him.

    • Grant Cohn says:

      Kilgore is heavier than Snyder, who played at 295 lbs. last season. I think Kilgore will be a better pass protector, too.

    • Faithful says:

      “until this team fills RG with a solid pickup, (draft or FA) all talk about receivers is nonsense”

      Not sure if you are cut/pasting my own posts or if we’re just on the same page here but…. yes to this.

      The only consolation I’ll give is if it looks like the guards are sliding a bit I’d take a receiver with #1 and then move back up in round two for the guard.

      • fesnyc says:

        Grant, i’m not buying it at all. Again i’m no pro talent evaluator, but this sales job not only smells, it rhymes. Kilgore is from a small school – appalachian state – is small by current guard standards (Synder was puny), and the scouting reports on him say he is a raw, developmental project with “limited” athletic skills. This is no 5th round “nugget” or find, he’s a 5th round pick with essentially no game experience, and almost certainly no meaningful reps in practice. I am very happy to eat my words if/when Kilgore is starting and playing well for us, but this is a worse subterfuge than “Ahmad Brooks’ replacement is on the roster”, “Carlos Rogers replacement is on the roster”, and “we have no interest in peyton manning”. We know to sell it short because it makes no sense. To think this raw 5th round pick can stand up to the beasts who play D-tackle in the NFL after one year on the taxi squad is just pipe dreaming.

        If Leonard Davis turns out to be the guy we sign, that’s fine, but there’s no way this position is spoken for.

  20. fesnyc says:

    PS. therefore, if we trade up, i say Baalke packages picks to get to the G from Stanford.

  21. Brodie2Washington says:

    Baalke: “We have one person that we feel real good about (at #30) … there is one in particular that we feel will be there.”

    Doing a little messing around with my very flawed crystal ball after this statement.

    Since many mocks/experts/reporters/bloggers/taxidermists think Fleener will go before #30, it sounds like Baalke is talking about someone else. I wonder who it is?

    • msclemons67 says:

      I will attempt to think like Baalke and pull a player no one has mentioned out of my behind:

      Alameda Ta’amu, DT, Washington – prototypical 3-4 NT and Soap is UFA after this year.
      Doug Martin, RB, Boise – doubtful but you never know how the FO feels about Gore’s future
      Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame – there is no spoon

      Last year every draft expert on the planet thought the 49ers were taking Gabbert. This year it seems like every draft expert has Coby Fleener or Kevin Zeitler as the pick.

      Everyone thinks that the 49ers will go offense in the 1st because the passing offense is so crappy. Smart businesses (and teams) reinforce and nurture their strengths. For the 49ers that’s the defense, special teams and running game. The passing game is just along for the ride.

      • Faithful says:

        If you mean for #30 I’m pretty sure those would all be considered huge reaches.

      • msclemons67 says:

        Aldon Smith was considered a reach.

      • msclemons67 says:

        And I was trying to go by the “we’re positive he’ll be there” rule.

      • Faithful says:

        a reach but he was still ranked as a first rounder. I think at least one of those names you have is a day three pick.

      • msclemons67 says:

        Hrmmm… all 3 are considered early second rounders on the sites I read. Opinions on Ta’amu are all over the map though.

        I’m not saying any of the three will actually be drafted at #30; I’m just trying to find picks as unpredictable as Aldon that actually fit the 49ers.

      • Faithful says:

        If it’s as big of a surprise as Aldon was last year then I’d suggest someone like Stephon Gilmore or Dre Kirkpatrick.

      • claude balls says:

        @msclemons:

        Aldon Smith was considered a reach.

        By whom? According to John McClain (Houston Texans beat writer), the Texans wanted to take Smith at No. 11.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @claude

        “By whom? ”

        By the experts on this blog.

  22. Faithful says:

    Here are my 3 guesses as to who Baalke is referring to:

    Fletcher Cox
    Rueben Randle
    Coby Fleener

    As much as I want a guard I just cant imagine that we’d actually move for anyone other then DeCastro and even I wouldn’t want to give up what we’d have to for that jump.

  23. Razoreater says:

    Coby Fleener is the dude.

  24. Andrew from Rishikesh says:

    What’s the over-under of Moss making it through training camp.

  25. AES says:

    DS94everXev says:
    April 18, 2012 at 9:49 pm
    @Andrew

    “Natalie Portman is 5′ 3″. So a 90lb woman who is 5’3″ is well within a healthy weight.”

    Yeah, but can she create ‘separation’?

    • DS94everXev says:

      @AES

      Natalie Portman lost 20lbs for that role. I bet she normally hovers around 110 or so.

      And no. If I had Natalie Portman, there is no way I would allow her to get any separation from me. Of course all the other men would flock around her leaving other women open for a strike.

    • claude balls says:

      Yeah, but can she create ‘separation’?

      Not with me on her, she can’t.

      Thank you! I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip the waitstaff. They work very hard to help you get drunk.

  26. Brotha tuna says:

    Baalke’s presser was, predictably, like a C.I.A. press conference; you know before it starts that you’re only going to get spin. And yet, in my pre-draft impatient misery I’ve been trying to see if there’s anything that can be drawn from his comments.
    My guess is nothing much; just throw-away cliches.
    My take on TB though, is that he wouldn’t bother putting out false info, so they probably do have a guy at the top who they like, and if they’re indeed confident he’ll be there, they must think that they value him higher than the league consensus opinion on him is. Without having enough to actually predict, I’ll just offer a few names who might fit that:
    Silutolo, Trumaine Johnson, Brian Quick, Jared Crick
    To me there’s some other guys we’ve all mentioned but might be gone or probably will be gone: Fleener, Hill, Randle, Gilmore, Zeitler, Konz, DeCastro. Can’t be confident they’d be there at #30. I’ve seen Fleener & Hill predicted as low as the 25th-35th pick; I don’t know what to make of that……..

    • stan says:

      I made a comment about that and Baalke someplace on this blog…but I also just scrolled thorough 320 comments trying to find mine before I realized,I clicked on the wrong topic. I hate what that happens. And if I make a great comment,and forget for two days?..fergeddit,I’m not scrolling through 978 comments to find it.

      • stan says:

        This blog is TOO popular.

      • stan says:

        The need to create a Google like hilight for your own posts. Or an app that does it.
        Another Stan million dollar idea.

      • Brotha tuna says:

        Hi Stan-
        Actually I was surprised not to see a shout-out from you to Coach Summit. Helluva career and former players talk about her like John Wooden’s former players talk about him; a Life Coach, not a BB Coach.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        “They need to create a Google like hilight for your own posts. Or an app that does it. Another Stan million dollar idea.”

        GENIUS Super Stan, pure GENIUS!!!!

      • stan says:

        And BRO, I also admired she called down other coaches for offensive recruiting. Not cheating per se..just underhanded such as she said about UCONN.

        Thanks Jack!

        Jack and Bro..I could say those names all day-fun names-lol.

  27. AES says:

    Does anybody think they have a lock on the first 15 picks of the draft?

    C’mon draft guru’s we’ll see next Thursday who has the best percentage.

    • Faithful says:

      1-Indy-Lucky
      2-Redskins-Griff^3
      3-Trade/Bucs-Richardson
      4-Browns-Claiborne
      5-Vikings-Kalil
      6-Rams-Cox
      7-Jaguars-Blackmon
      8-Dolphins-Tannehill
      9-Panthers-Coples
      10-Trade/Eagles-Brockers
      11-Chiefs-DeCastro
      12-Seachickens-V.Curry
      13-Trade/Jets-M.Barron
      14-Cowgirls-Ingram
      15-Bills-Gilmore
      16-Cards-Fleener

      Threw in one more for fun.

      • Brotha tuna says:

        @ Faithful
        Pretty good mock. I’ll quibble on a couple. The trades haven’t happened, but they don’t seem unreasonable in context.
        #9 Panthers could go Brockers or Poe also, but Coples isn’t a bad pick. Local too.
        #14 Pokes could go go for Gilmore or Kirkpatrick, but they do seek pass rusher.
        #15 Bills need to address OT and crave a WR, so I dunno about Gilmore if he’s there.
        #16 Another team with a need at OT that may be too urgent to ignore.
        I base my opinions on the WAG System, (Wild-assed Guess), so accept them at your peril.

      • Faithful says:

        I think there is enough bad tape to knock Poe back down to either the Titans or the Steelers and I’ve heard the Panthers want Coples.

        Dallas and Buffalo are both tough picks with some many directions they could go. I thought CB but I’m not sure Jerry will take one that high but if they do it wouldn’t surprise me.

        The Bills are kind of a crap shoot in the draft imo, I always hate trying to mock their picks. Yea they need OL but they needed it last year too and they didn’t seem to put much emphasis on it then either. WR is a possibility, I wouldn’t be surprised by that.

        Cardinals want an answer to Vernon Davis bad and they also need someone that can take pressure off Fitz as well as give Kolb a great red zone and middle of the field target. Yes they need OT and if they take one then maybe I should have known better but I seem them making a surprise pick and grabbing the dynamic tight end.

      • Faithful says:

        The Cards taking Fleener is my Grant Cohn special.

        I’m gonna keep beating the drum about my diamond this year: Thomas Mayo. He might even go undrafted but I really think this kid is going to show up on someones roster and be the next wunderkid that everyone will ask how no one picked him.

      • Msclemons67 says:

        I like it but you forgot to have one completely ridiculous pick in the top 10. Every year there is at least one pick in the top 10 that causes Mel Kiper’s hair to light on fire.

        I’m going with Gilmore to the Jags as this year’s “WTF?” reach.

      • Faithful says:

        Curry to the Seachickens is my WTF pick.

      • Scooter_McG says:

        Faithful, I think that’s a really good mock draft. I agree with a lot of those picks, and definitely see the Rams taking Cox. Also the Eagles moving up to get Brockers. Here’s my attempt at predicting the future.

        1. Colts – Luck
        2. Redskins – RGIII
        3. Trade/ Dolphins – Tannehill
        4. Browns – Richardson
        5. Bucs – Claiborne
        6. Rams – Cox
        7. Trade/ Cardinals – Kalil
        8. Vikings – Blackmon
        9. Panthers – Coples
        10. Trade/ Eagles – Brockers
        11. Chiefs – DeCastro
        12. Seahawks – Perry
        13. Jaguars – Floyd
        14. Cowboys – Gilmore
        15. Bills – Kuechly

      • Faithful says:

        Here’s my full: http://draftdebacled.com/PublishedDraft.aspx?mdid=30458

        I did switch the Bills pick to a WR and even I doubt that the CB’s will last as long as they do in my mock but /meh.

  28. Faithful says:

    If Cordy Glenn, R.Randle or Fleener get anywhere near #20 or higher I see us moving up for them. (I believe Hill will be long gone and glenn is the only other guard that deserves a first round grade imo)

    Except for Glenn I’d be bummed if we made that trade, if we make it for Glenn I’ll be stoked.

    • Jack Hammer says:

      I really doubt that they go with Guard in Rd1, but If they decide to go that way I think the best fit other than DeCastro is Zeitler. The Wisconsin run game is very similar to the 49ers with a lot of pulling and trapping by the guards.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @Jack

        I wouldn’t be surprised. Even though the Niners need a #1 WR more than anything else, drafting WR’s in the first round to be “the man” rarely works.

        That’s why I think the Niners will draft multiple WR’s in the mid-rounds. TB already said that there will be plenty of good WR’s to come by late in the draft. And WR is by far our largest area of need on the team. Why would he dump all those picks if he feels he can get good talent later in the draft?

        And I don’t buy the argument that only a few players drafted will make the team as a reason to not sit pat with your picks (not give a bunch to trade up). The more players we have in TC who could be good WR’s, the better the competition is. The better the competition, the better the WR’s we will finally settle on will be. Even if only a couple of drafted players make the team, we will have gone thru a more stringent evaluation/competition than if we didn’t have so many good young players.

        We will have a better chance of getting better WR’s if we have more WR’s to choose from. Which means drafting more than 1, and not trading away a ton of picks.

      • Faithful says:

        I like Zeitlers shuttle and 3-cone times but I wonder if Glenns times aren’t fast for his size given he’s got nearly 30 lbs on Zeitler? I’m trying to recall simply from hazy memory but don’t we tend to pull more with Iupati then the right guard(whomever it may be)?

      • Scooter_McG says:

        If they are thinking guard in round 1, I actually hope they trade down (assuming there is a willing trade partner) as I think at least one (probably more) of Zeitler, Konz, Osemele and Silatolu will be available around the 40-45 mark.

  29. manilaboy says:

    Hey Grant ! You should put a new thread. All i can see is your dads comment. Whats a matter you run out of players to talked about?