SANTA CLARA — This is the live blog for the first round of the 2012 NFL Draft. I’ll update this frequently from the 49ers media trailer.
4:05 This just in from Jay Glazer: “I’m hearing we have our first trade; Cleveland moving up from #4 to #3 w Minnesota. Giving up 3 picks to move into the 3rd spot.”
4:13 Jason LaCanfora on the trade: “Browns trade a 4th, 5th and 7th round pick to move up one spot to 3rd. Trent Richardson would seem to be the pick.”
4:27 More Glazer on the Vikings: “Minn didn’t want to go past 5th but are now thinking about trading down again.”
4:38 Adam Schefter says the Jaguars want to trade up for Blackmon: “One trade has enabled Jacksonville to now try to trade up for OSU WR Justin Blackmon. Jags pushing for deal.”
4:55 If the Jaguars draft Justin Blackmon, we’ll never hear from him again. He might become the quickest bust ever.
4:58 Evan Silva on Kendall Wright: “ESPN’s Bob Holtzman on Browns: ‘Expect them to turn their attention to WR at 22. Heckert has one guy in mind.’ (Guess: Kendall Wright.)”
5:01 Houston Chronicle reporter John McClain: “I heard a rumor Texans want TE Coby Fleener. Lots of mocks say so. I’ll be shocked if they take a TE in first round.”
5:05 Surprise: The Colts pick Andrew Luck No. 1
5:11 The Redskins pick Robert Griffin III with the No. 2 pick.
5:16 The Browns pick Trent Richardson with the No. 3 pick. Now comes the interesting part.
5:19 The Vikings pick Matt Kalil with the No. 4 pick. Boring pick. They’ll end up regretting it because they should have picked a cornerback.
5:22 The Jaguars traded up with the Bucs to No. 5. They will draft Justin Blackmon, presumably. If so, that’s two bad draft picks in a row by two bad organizations.
5:25 And Jacksonville officially makes The Blackmon Mistake. An unconfirmed rumor says they already regret it.
5:30 Bad break for the Niners. It would have been nice for them had the Rams made The Blackmon Mistake. Now the Niners will have to contend with Cortland Finnegan and Morris Claiborne, most likely.
5:32 Scratch that – Dallas traded up to No. 6 and picked Morris Claiborne.
5:34 No matter how many times the analysts on NFL Network call Justin Blackmon a beast – he will not be one with NFL.
5:41 The Bucs draft Mark Barron with the No. 7 pick. The Dolphins can have Ryan Tannehill if they want him.
5:43 The Rams now own picks No. 33, 39 and 45.
5:46 The Dolphins draft Ryan Tannehill at pick No. 8.
5:47 The Cowboys will have a much better defense next years. Added CBs Carr and Claiborne.
5:49 The Panthers pick Luke Kuechly, and I owe a few people a nickel. I don’t think he’s worth a top-15 pick because he’s an inside linebacker. The Panthers disagree, but they’ll see things my way pretty soon. You’ll see. You’ll all see!
5:51 It blows my mind that Kuechly was a higher pick than Patrick Willis. He does not deserve the honor.
5:55 The Bills pick Stephon Gilmore with the No. 10 pick.
6:02 The Chiefs pick Dontari Poe with the No. 11 pick. All the busts are going early in this draft. Good news for the Niners.
6:05 The Eagles just traded up with the Seahawks for the 12th pick.
6:08 The Eagles draft DT Fletcher Cox No. 13. Good pick.
6:16 The Cardinals drafted Michael Floyd with the No. 13 pick. Two very large starting wide receivers for the Cardinals.
6:22 The Rams choose DT Michael Brockers with the No. 14 pick. They’re clearly going to draft receivers with some of their three second round picks.
6:33 The Seahawks draft DE Bruce Irvin with the No. 15 pick. Another reach. This draft has been Reach City so far.
6:40 My internet doesn’t work and the Seahawks drafted Bruce Irvin and the Jets drafted Quinton Coples. This draft has been Reach City. 6:44 I guess the Niners won’t be trading up to No. 17, because the Bengals just drafted Dre Kirkpatrick with that pick.
6:55 The Chargers draft Melvin Ingram and the Bears draft Shea McClellin and I’m frantically calling the webmaster. This is a draft disaster.
6:56 I think the site’s working again.
6:58 It’s working. Hallelujah! Has Coby Fleener been picked yet?
7:01 The Titans make The Kendall Wright Mistake at pick No. 20 and the Patriots trade up with the Bengals for pick No. 21 to pick DE Chandler Jones. David DeCastro is still on the board.
7:06 The Cleveland Browns draft QB Brandon Weeden with the No. 22 pick. I was expecting them to draft Fleener there, but I was assuming they were a savvy organization. Weeden is horrible draft pick. Wow.
7:10 The Lions draft offensive tackle Riley Reiff with the No. 23 pick. Will the Niners trade up here, or will the Steelers just take David DeCastro?
7:12 And the Steelers take DeCastro. Will the Broncos draft Fleener? They’re on the clock right now.
7:17 The Patriots traded up with the Broncos to draft Dont’a Hightower with pick No. 25. The Broncos will pick at No. 31. If the Texans pass on Fleener, he will probably drop to the Niners if they want him.
7:26 The Texans draft DE Whitney Mercilus with pick No. 26. The Niners should be able to choose between Coby Fleener, Rueben Randle and Stephen Hill at pick No. 30. Good for them.
7:31 The Bengals draft Kevin Zeitler with the No. 27 pick with Cordy Glenn still on the board. This round is shaping up perfectly for the Niners.
7:38 The Packers draft Nick Perry. If the Ravens pass on Fleener, the Niners have to draft him.
7:40 Forget the Ravens – the Vikings just traded up for the No. 29 pick. They’re going to pick Rueben Randle or Stephen Hill is my guess. I say they pick Hill.
7:42 The vikings draft Harrison Smith. Fleener’s there if the Niners want him. Let’s see if they do the right thing.
7:45 The 49ers draft wide receiver A.J. Jenkins from Illinois. 6-0 190. The 49ers just massively over-thought themselves. Terrible pick.
7:48 With this pick the Niners tell everyone they blame Kyle Williams for the NFC Championship loss. They actually chose to upgrade Williams’ roster spot with their first round pick. Unbelievable.
7:50 Jenkins averaged 13.3 yards per catch as a junior, 14.2 yards per catch as a senior. So despite his speed, he was not a big play receiver in college. The Niners got themselves another slot possession receiver. Perhaps Baalke is better at drafting defense.
7:55 The Bucs draft Doug Martin with pick No. 31.
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And the 30th pick of the draft, the 49ers select Grant Cohn.
Just because I ran a 4.4 at my Pro Day.
yeah, but your lateral movement is suspect.
It’s true. Plus I’m a long strider.
So did Chris Owusu, but his stock didn’t go up :)
For a west coast offense, why do we keep drafting the wrong kind of WR. Have you looked at the best WRs in the league? Fitgerald, Megatron, AJ Green, all big WRs. Why do we keep ignoring this when Hill, Randle and Quick are staring us in the face. Balke keeps giving us small WRs. He has never shown an ability to draft WRs. We signed a bubch of 5’10-6 footers, why add another?
I feel your frustration
Fill us in, going to watch the Devil Panthers 7th and decided game, then the Blues, not going to watch the draft over live sports, but am interested in who the Niners take.
All this waiting and the 49ers pick an O-lineman.
That was my nightmare from last night.
NOooooo!
Hey Jason – The Browns aren’t moving up to take a running back. They are moving up to take Tannehill away from Miami. Like I was wondering…. do the Vikes get paid? Why, yes. Yes they did.
3rd Overall for Tannehill? I doubt it, personally.
Wanna bet? It’s Richardson.
Why would any team use a top five pick on a running back – and not only a top five pick, but trade away a culmination of picks just to move up a couple of spots? If reports are true (which I hope they aren’t) Holmgren is making a huge mistake. I understand taking some pressure off Colt McCoy, and sticking with your boy, but the Browns had two picks in the first round to help McCoy with – they could have gone running back, receiver without trading up and giving away picks on the backend….. unless Holmgren isn’t big on McCoy.
Look at it this way – Who was going to trade with the Vikings for Trent Richardson? The Vikings were not drafting Richardson… not with AP and Toby. The only reason you move up there is to take Tannehill away from the Dolphins. That’s my take. We’ll see shortly.
They made the trade so someone else wouldn’t trade with Minnesota and take Richardson ahead of them, like Tampa Bay.
Giving up that much for a running back with half the shelf life of other positions, when I don’t see anyone else wanting him enough to pay the Vikes… meaning Trent might have been there at 4… is questionable management of the war room in my ever so humble opinion.
Tampa Bay? There’s your potential threat? TB already has a huge back in Blount. That’s not exactly the change of pace you look for in a rb tandem.
Blount is big but he’s not an every down back. They aren’t happy with him. He gets taken out on 3rd down cause he can’t catch and because he can’t be trusted to know his blocking assignments. He’s also a fumbler and borderline psychotic.
Good insight. Fair enough. It’s true Blount wasn’t even drafted and those are certainly some of the reasons. But riddle me this…. why not go with a running back later, like a Doug Martin, if Richardson isn’t there? It’s not like the Browns are so complete they can forget about finding late round gold. They aren’t the 49ers.
I’m not trying to justify the move, just giving the rationale behind it.
Yeah… I’ve just always liked Holmgren… until now… unless it’s not Trent.
It’s Trent. I really think that’s a bad move.
And so….
The Draft officially begins with the Vikings (again?) at the #4 Spot
Fancy place,Radio City….and MLB has its draft at Hotel 13. With paintings of giant eyed Orphans and Kittens.
Hey,Fleener made the dais..
Why did the Browns give up picks to trade up one spot? Were they afraid that the Vikings were going to draft a running back? Seems to me that they want somebody OTHER than Richardson. Kalil perhaps? That would be a heck of a tackle combination pairing him with Joe Thomas.
Ron, I think they were worried about Tampa trading up in front of them.
Huh,Stanford had 2/3 of the best white players in the country…
Turned out Stanfords team had 50% of the best white players in the country. Why?
Why does anyone care what “color” any player or anyone is ?
Tim – you don’t care you’re yellow?
I personally like blue the best,but yellow is ok too .
@Stan
Not a genius post this time. Can’t lead to anything good.
Truth isn’t good or bad. Can’t close my eyes.
The 9ers have their pick(s) dilemma and I have mine. Should I start with a NZ Sauv Blanc or Napa Chard. Or should I start with a Santa Barbara Pinot and then move to a WA State Merlot and finish the evening with a Napa Cab? Or should I make it simple and just drink Amstel Light? I guess it depends on what’s for dinner. Salmon, chicken or beef? Pizza?? Too many options!! LOL
I think you start with a Poppy Hills four iron to the noggin.
After reading your dizzy comments, you’ve used that option a couple of weeks back. LOL
HA!
Using my own insults against me means you may need to club up. I’m thinking three iron to get through the hair.
If Baalke picks someone you never heard of you might just go straight to the hard stuff . lol
Not warm enough, at least where I’m at for whites. I’m a cab man so that would definitely be my choice.
Faithful, cabs are always great options. I had a large lunch so appetizers and wine may suffice tonight. Go 9ers!
I’m fortunate enough to live in Calistoga so there are one or two choices of ok wines at the store. Once it warms up I’ll start breaking out the whites but this time of year is all cabs or blends. Personally my favorite wine to drink is a Meritage.
Insignia?
Fleener just gave an interview where he says Stanford was a west coast offense,complicated with five options at the line of scrimmage,etc,etc,…well, If that’s west coast?..then Shaw needs to seek out remedial WCO updating,teaching. Just based on the end of the Fiesta Bowl for one…
I think the 49ers will trade out of the first round for a 2013 #1.
OR
Get multiple picks in rounds 2 or 3 where the Meat of the Draft is?
But we don’t need a bunch of picks,they don’t have room on the roster for many rookies. Trade up if anything,unless they can get a deal with a bad team for their next years #1 as part of the deal,then maybe.
TIMMY
They would still get Bang for the Buck in those Rounds & be done. It’s not like they’re looking for Starters.
It’s about adding Quality Depth & those Rounds have lots of Talent.
But f49:
If a team trades down they aquire additional picks. We have too many picks already. Why trade down and get even more players that will be cut? (unless we aquire a high pick for next year and can still get a few really good players this year. We don’t need quantity we need a few top quality players.
Unless we trade 1 and say 4 and 5 to get more picks in rounds 2 and 3.
That would be ok Grumpy,as long as they thought their guys would still be on the board . But better to stay put or trade up in the 1st and then trade up again into the 2nd round twice etc.
I’m not sensing a huge drop in value from 30 to 50. The only reason a trade is even possible for SF is if someone gets a woody for a particular player – like Holmgren reportedly has with Weeden.
@TIM,
I think I just explain my point. Get 2 picks closer together, their own Pick in the 2nd with a mid-round 2nd pick so the 49ers can capitilize on the 2nd Round possibly.
Grumpy,
That’s exactly my point.
So how long before the 30th pick? I heard the Raiders wont pick until Friday night at 95th.
If we stay at #30 we pick sometime around 9:50 or so,unless teams don’t use all their 10 min’s alloted time.
They’ll trade up to nab RRandle.
@Stan
Nobody on this board – except you – care about the Raiders. 10minuts/pick, you do the math
I bet, and bet alot ..Grant does.
Does Indy and Wash take the full 10 minutes?
OK so the first two are done, the Browns have their pick in so the draft can officially start!
Grant, I bet luke keuchly top 15
And we’re off……..
Does ALuck look a little like JedYork?
Good call, he sure does.
He’s funny looking. ha ha haa
So,if Alex faulters does Jed take over at QB for JH ???
lol. Luck fails in Indy and is a 9er in 3 years.
Jim Brown – although no scouting expert – doesn’t like Trent Richardson.
“The problem is that he’s ordinary. I think he’s ordinary.” What’s ordinary about Richardson? “The size, the speed, his moves,” he [Bornw] said.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8289f671/article/jim-brown-unimpressed-by-ordinary-trent-richardson?module=HP11_headline_stack
Im gonna guess the Redskins win the East this year. Giants dont make the playoffs. You watch.
The Eagles could bounce back this year. Nonetheless, I really don’t care much for the NFC East.
I dont either, but we could be playing them in the post season, Philly I think are done.
The 5th best WR is some kid from Alabama..that’s who the 49ers take. I guess.
Who do your Raiders take?
At 95th? Mother Teresa’s ghost.
RGIII seems like a pretty cool kid. Good to see.
He does, but he’s not rich yet. T.O was a good guy to at one time. lol
TO was never a good guy. Walsh tried to mentor him.
T.O was a stand up kid when he first entered the league. JR SY and some other old vets said it. Fame is a *itch.
That kid was a headcase when he entered the league, and Bill Walsh saw it.
Wow this is crazy with picks piling up, haven’t seen that before.
NOW that TR is a Brown. The real “guessing game” begins.
Someone said it would be a QB. Really!
Do the 9ers trade up? Yes or no? My thoughts are yes!
It’s an option, if they want to move into the 20s… but I think the value is from 30 to 50.
yes
Depends on who’s still on the board
Maybe. lol
I think yes, but it won’t be for Flenner. IMO they will not mortgage the future and lose next years’ pick. If they move up it’s for a play-maker, right?
Vikes should have traded with the Jags – they could have still gotten Kalil, and a bonus, while the Jags got Blackmon.
I agreed and had the same exact thought. This was kind of like Baalke moving up to grab Anthony Davis a few years ago.
Yeah, but it takes a while put together a deal.
to*
Agreed
Gabbert to Blackmon? That’s like Montana to Rice. Lol.
Minn needs to use a miracle card. Man I dont miss those days. Wheeew
Thats one wrong, they had me convinced they weren’t going to take him.
Wow…. nice move again by the Rams….. wow.
The Rams’ GM ain’t stupid. He just leveraged the hell outta that first round pick.
wow look how far the cowgirls just moved up,
Secondary… Im guessing
BAAAMO!!!!
Jags got a bad man on the outside.
And thank God because I didntwant to see him twice a year
Terrible QB that BG. Maybe he comes around?
Draft is Moving pretty quickly. lol
Good, I gotta go to bed soon. Cmon 30
lol pretty excited to see what we do. Just glad its FOOTBALL season!
OMG memo to the NFL please have some mercy and for the love of christ stop giving the rams draft picks!!
Why? Theyre helping us
Well that trade basically poos the bed on my mock.
Lol. Isn’t it “piss?”
shat usually but didn’t wanna quite go there
Yeah… I don’t blame you. Good thing you didn’t.
that’s a huge jump for a corner, too far for the position?
I dont think so, they need some help back there. Worst in the NFL with blown leads, and passing blown leads at that. I hope he is a bust though.
“Americas Team” is a made up phrase by the media. Did you hear the boos!!
See comment below….. The media is an East coast joke!
Of course they have a reporter in Dallas, prob NY, and N.E and GB. I hate ESPN,
Should be watching the better (NFL) network..
Hmmm I hate Berman, I hate Irvin…. Decisions Decisions. And they both will probably have reporters in those same teams facility’. BUT. Your right the NFL Network is much better than ESPN. THX I would have suffered longer on ESPN. Didnt know they did the draft. Channel is changed. lol
Who do the bucs take?
Fleener. lol Grant
wow, that’s much sooner then i expected
on Barron i mean heh not fleener.
I was teasing Grant.
Tampa….Same problem as the Cowdungs. Good pick for them.
What’s up with all the steams moving up? Seems to me like these teams are reaching.
Time for the 9ers to make a move!
Why?
Just like FA. You have the stupid teams overpay. Like $6 mil for Morgan.
Be smart. Be cool.
Who would you target if the Niners moved up?
Damn iPhone … These teams
The new cba rookie cap helped by limiting ceiling dollars. More moves than for years previous!
LMAO!!! Bucs fans screaming Dolphins suck. I want to hear some 9er fans screaming NY and GB and Oak SUCK. Wheew
We’re not there MD! We’d be raisin’ some hell! LMAO.
Damn straight. I might get kicked out. ;-)
RTannehill mistake at #8. Oh well…they will be dreamin’ for Marino for life…
Where’s GC?
Making some Calls to get Fleener. lol jk
+1 For both question and comment
Maybe he ran down to S Clara. Don’t they have a media room going tonight??
I am out here in Phoenix for two weeks training with Phoenix Fire. Great bunch of guys! That being said, today, I ran into Beanie Wells who predicted Az was drafting for defense in the first round. Then he followed that prediction up with an amazing illustration of how bad he was at simple math…The dealer asked for $25 to make his cash out an even $200. He stood there for about 4 minutes asking how much more to make it $200? Eventually he just pushed all his chips forward…I’d be willing to bet the kid didn’t show up for a single collegiate math course at Ohio State.
there are some major reaches in this draft.
Wow some major reaches…what’s going on?? Everyone looking for a diamond in the rough!!
@fesnyc
How often have the teams drafting in/near the bottom 4 trade a bunch of picks to move up?
How often do they stand pat?
How often do they trade down?
Now, how often do the teams that commonly find themselves in/near the last 4 do each of those 3 possibilities?
I’m betting the least common one is the trade-up option.
to be fair, we wont really know who’s any good for months or years…and i’ve already disclaimed my ability to pick college talent (Mike Phipps is can’t miss!)…but i just have to think this many teams offering multiple picks to jump, plus the profiles of some athletes dont exactly reek of “cant-miss” (Tannehill, Kuechley, etc)…well, in many cases these will be bullets poorly spent. i’m generally a fan of trading up if you feel the guy is can’t miss, but some of this sounds like panic. I fear the Ram’s move to take the other side of this trade will do them well. hope not.
i still think we have to go Guard at #30 or earlier, but in Baalke I Trust.
Told you grant luke kuechly top 15 thought he was slow grant?????
He’s a bad man
Just because I could beat him in a race doesn’t mean he’s slow. You’re right. I was harsh.
Here he is. GC where the hell have you been!!? LOL
The internet is horrible in the Niners press trailer. I’m doing the best I can.
GC, you’re in Santa Clara? How’s the food? Did Jed take care of you guys? Or cheap screw? JK!
They haven’t served food yet. I’ll give you a full report.
Goes to show you. Dont judge a book by its cover. Kuechly doesnt look tough, but seeing his highlights says different. Good pick for Car
He’ll be solid but not elite.
Russel was going to be an Elite QB. LOL Car defense isnt that bad. He may just become a Beast in Car
What is up with all of these french braids in the NFL draft? I haven’t seen so many since our ten year olds slumber party back in ’92
I’m off the hook – I don’t have to say anything nice about Merlots.
Good thing too. I was having trouble thinking of anything.
MSC, Merlots are a good bargain and less expensive than Single Malt Scotch. LOL
Even cheaper, AND BETTER is a bottle of Jack with some Bud Light to chase. ;-)
But they have no character. They’re the Oakland of wines: There’s no there, there.
Oh, JD nights…been there! LOL
Not a Wine or Import beer kinda of Guy Hoff. DOMESTICATED TO THE FULLEST. Although the Scotch sounds nice as well. Got some good Rum from Puerto Rico that you cant get here. Special occasions only. ;-)
I like Puerto Rico. Stayed at the Conquistador. Had some excellent Rum there. Too much! LOL
And the Chiefs once again reach for a potential bust DL. Some things never change.
First bad pick Ive seen so far. IMO
Poe – workout warrior. Three different defensive coordinators. Sounds like Alex Smith.
talk about reach especially from a GM that usually knows better
The Chiefs just can’t get their D line right. LOL.
WTF kind of Hair “dont” is that? WOW
Fashion statement? Uh oh, attitude already starting!! lol
@grant: wasn’t cam newton supposed to be a bust?
WOW…Poe looks lean in his suite!!! Good tailor!? LMAO!
*Suit* not suite.
suite #17??? lol
Everyone loved Pioli a couple of years ago. Things have changed.
Same with Holmgren and AJ Smith. Maybe GM’s have a shorter shelf life than initially believed.
A lot more trades than I expected. Shefter says the Eagles gave up their 1st, 5th and 6th to move up three spots
They cut the rookie salaries by capping them! Good move..
Correction: 1st, 4th and 6th. That makes more sense.
How good does everybodies mock draft look so far? Minus the first 2 picks which was already known.
According to Mayock…. everyone’s a HOFer right now. Sheez… tone it down, buddy.
MMayock lives for tonight! I wish I had his job.
We’ll know in 8 picks if the 9ers draft CF. They’ll have to move up and if they don’t, they aren’t drafting CF. I still say they don’t move and they grab RRandle – great pick (other than CF).
Yeah Spit, all we need is Crazy Undead Al to tell us how someone is a “great player”.
RIP, Al… watch your back, Satan.
Floyd and Fitz …. No problem. Kolb’s head is like scrambled eggs.
Pick 13 coming up, we’re getting in Decastro territory.
Andrew, what time is it in India? You are a die hard 9er fan bud!
Sorry I couldn’t respond earlier Hof, connection problems. It’s now 7:15 in India, we’re 9 1/2 hours ahead. As far as being a die hard 49er fan, it takes one to know one.
12 1/2 West Coast time.
Floyd to the Chiefs. Interesting.
KC Joyner: “Floyd had the lowest YPA and vertical YPA & second lowest stretch vertical YPA among the top 10 WR prospects”
Oh Damn!!! The Cards got another weapon. But with NO O-line he wont matter. Buahahahahaaaa
And no QB to get them the ball…
Thats true also.
only my 4th correct pick of team at selection. these trades have slayed me. floyd to ari
Floyd to Zona will only make our Division better,
I’m tired of hear from the E Coast Media saying the “Lowly NFC West”
Not no more!
Blah Blah Blah….. Floyd will not do anything in the NFL. JJ Stokes anyone?
STL takes Fleener. ;-)
Did Floyd just suck on a helium balloon?
I’d drink too if I had that voice… LMAO.
Seattle: time for DeCastro?
Love the fact that NFC West teams are building to beat us and our style. Feels Great
Seahawks took a big trouble maker! haha
I like that pick.
He’s a good player! Alot of baggage tho!
Floyd can play, but Az shoulda gone for a core player like DeCastro, Rief, or a Killa’ edge rusher. Miss.
Rams overplayed their hand. Blockers is good but they missed Claiborne.
Seachickens topped that with an epic reach for Irvin. Wow!
I agree on the Seachickens pick! Good upside but a big reach! Baggage!!!!
I’m happy to see our division opponents blowing it
Ohhhhhhhhhhh GGGGGGGGGGGrant? Where’s Fleener? Lol…… an entire career on the line…. right now.
Kuechly @ #9, I guess he will go in the 1st round Grant.
man the server is really sucking today!!! Love the bad picks in our division so far, lol
what’s wrong with the server??????? It’s so bad!!! GRANT!!!
I’m writing to the PD webmaster right now.
Order me a steak sandwich….. and steak sandwich.
I want to enjoy the draft with my peeps and it keeps disconnecting, bummer.
It looks like the webmaster said “STFU Grant – just for that i’m killing your formatting”
NFL Network’ Michael Lombardi is reporting that the 49ers were persuing Bruce Irvin with their pick. Interesting that SEA pulls the trigger on him instead. Another P.Carroll swipe at Harbaugh? Hummmm
nooooooo, they can have him. It’s a poker match. they’ll say one thing, mean another and strike at the right time.
I saw that, too. Looks like maybe Baalke wanted to load up on fierce pass rushers. If it’s true, plan B is never good. That’s the kinda stuff that gets you R W McQuarters.
Not the 9ers guy or they would have moved up. All hyperbole!
Did they fix the server? Damn!!
Are you guys watching the live cam on
SF 49ERS.COM?
What was harbaugh putting in his mouth there? Turned his back to the camera!
Did you notice the curtain on the left is covered. The one *behind* TB.
Ya, wonder whats up with that.
Keeping their cards close to the vest!
12 picks away. Some really good players still on the board.
Wright, Randle, Fleener and Jeffrey.
I’m surprised DeCastro is still on the board
I’m not. Guard in the first round? No thanks.
@msc I guess guards never go that high. If the 9ers want him badly maybe they can put something together. Like Grumpy Guy said there are some really good players available.
He’ll be gone soon.
I think so
The site should be working again. Sorry about that. Things are a little wild today.
Thanks GC!
+1
Are the 9ers going with RRandle or defense?
NE traded up wow!! the never do that!! Fleener!!!lol
lol I had Fleener picked 2 times already, and still No Grant. lol
Defensive players are going fast. The value left on the board is probably going to be offense.
agreed
Damn now the 9ers server is acting up!
Hey GC,
Please say hello to E. Branch for me. MM too. Thanks!
He tells me to give you his best.
I’m sure he’ll pass that along. Lol.
kendall wright just went, Patriots and Cincinati have picks in, I think the bungles may have interest in Fleener.
KWright is a reach right there. Hmmm. GC thoughts on that one?
I think Kendall Wright will be a Golden Tatesque bust.
Yup, yup!
How can a guy that’s under 6 foot have 16% body fat. Wright is getting close to us give or take 10-20%.
Thanks GC.
If Fleener was on the 9ers radar from the start, this is where and when they need to trade up. Im still saying he’s going to Denver and were getting a Wis Badger
I think Denver trades out of the first round!
Ha, I knew they’d trade back!
I think we’re going to get our guy!!!! so many Guards, Wr’s and fleener left!!
It’s getting kind of edgy, Decastro is in viewing distance.
yeah he is but…..
And the Pats just traded up again with Denver.
Watch the 9ers and see if they get on the phone to trade. SF49ers.com – they have a live cam going…
Looks like the 9ers are sitting pat – not trades!!?
Ive been watching them. They’re patiently waiting!
Make me nervous…RRandle??
Hey Grant, the Browns just took the old quarterback that I believe you said earlier could be a big bust, Which I agree, Don’t you think they should have gone WR or OL, I do not understand the Browns strategy? Do you?
Definitely a WR would be a better pick for clev.
I agree Hoferfan67, Wow another DE just went! Do we go guard, Hill or CF? Wow!
Weeden….LMAO!!! Our QB is younger than that guy. He will be 30 before he even figures anything out. What a wasted pick…
MHolmgren great coach but a Pres? I’m not sure!
No he’ll be read to go right away. Good passer and in his prime. They haven’t had any QB’s in forever so this is good for them.
Never know. Kurt Warner.
I think Joe and Steve ran to their backyards to throw the ball around after that pick.
Wow…. Holmgren is smoking crack.
Andrew; Do you with DeCastro or Fleener if their both available?
Decastro hands down. Even though I want Fleener.
Decastro
Decastro, Konz, Hill, Randle, Fleener still there.
The Steelers drafted DeCastro.
great steel, BEAST!!
There goes DeCastro
What did NE give Denver to move up?
The 31st and their 3rd if I heard correctly. Pats only have two 2nd round picks left.
It was actually a 4th. The cost to move up is sweet piss all.
The 9ers are not on the phone. DeCAstro to Pitt. UUUgggg!
I’m thinking Flenner, Hill or Randle, one of them will definitely be there.
C’mon.Fleener isnt exactly a lead you to a Super Bowl pick. I doubt the niners are filled with anxiety on that pick.
Hey another Stanford guy picked. Daveeed De Cahstro.. or David DeCastro in English.
GC, the 9ers aren’t moving. Do you think it is still CF or RRandle??
It depends on who the Texans take, I believe.
Fleener? Anyone? White courtesy phone? Fleener?
OK we’ll know now…
Fleener is coming to us!
CF still there as is RRandle. Hmmmm.
Andrew; Nevermind! hahaha
Big ben is doing flips right now.
Oh well..calling it a day…seeya.
N.E. going all defense with that great 31st ranked D from 2011. LOL
Texans take fleener?
they need to replace Mario williams
ahahahah I was actually right
Or Randle….
NE stacked up to pick studs period!! they had so many pick to deal, they could do this.
They still have no running attack, oh yeah they don’t run.
lol, I’m not sure what they have left but they can find one later maybe.
GC, is the media trailer full? Who’s there? MB, MM, CI, EB, Janie M, etc. How about LC and TMurakami? RRatto?
LMAO!!!! Anyone else just catch that wardrobe malfunction on NFL network?
I replayed it to my wife ahahaha
Defense dominating. Martin is going to the second round, maybe Fleener, too.
It looks like the 49ers will have their choice of Hill, Fleener or Siluotu (sp?)
If we pass on Fleener, Colts take him!
Would Niners draft a D lineman?
Grant – Mexican fisherman isn’t a bad occupation….
so we’re getting closer hmmmm, what to do?
If Glenn or Zeitler are there my guess is that they go in that direction. A receiver will be there at 2.
Naw, I’d be shocked that they draft a guard that high. But no absolutes…there goes Zeitler.
Glenn is dropping. If Flenner hasn’t gone by now his lack of draft value seems to be showing. If Coach wants him that’s good enough for me.
What happen to the 9ers moving up? Ain’t gonna happen!! LOL
I hope they dont go back!
The niners r gonna get janoris jenkins…
I hope not
Who is N.O picking? Buahahahahaa
sitlitilo what ever is left now at guard
The ravens will take Fleener now imo
I agree about the ravens taking Fleener, Their quarterback will be better because of it, What are the packers thinking?
He wouldn’t do that to his brother….would he? lol
There goes our Badger. Cinn knew it. Harbaugh east picking Fleener??? Damn I wanted Zeitler
CF still available, #30 would be a good spot without trading up.
Packers need Defense! Whats the Ravens need?
Ravens are taking Konz or Glenn…
They Ravens have to replace Grubbs.
Fleener
I’m sure it is CF or RRandle.
Vikings just traded up – for Glenn?
Vikings are on the clock! Do they want CF?
Fleener to GB Packers? Another weapon for A.Rodgers?
Nooooooo!
Moss manningham crabtree ky williams ted ginn??? We dont need a WR at 30. Except for moss we are young at the positiin. and we have talent. I dont think randall or hill is better than moss mann or crab. Just my opinion
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+49
Thats really hard to read! lol
Baltimore grabs Glenn?
I still say RRandle but CF is awesome as well! Go 9ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fleener to Vikings?
Minn moves up. They want what we wanted
Minnesota jumped up!!!! Fleener?????
or Hill!
Vikings will probably go with offense at this draft position. Fleener?
I guess wide out.
Harrison Smith,
JH has been on the edge of his seat the last 3 picks on the 9er live cam. Man I like that dude!!!!!!
We were on the phone.
Now the 49ers choose between Fleener and Hill or do something especially Baalke-esque.
Schefter is hinting Doug Martin… hrmmm
We need to trade back a few for that huh?
CF to niners?
OK. Grant’s moment of truth.
Randle, Fleener and Jeffrey are THERE!!!!
Jeffrey will be available in the 3rd.
Bite your tongue.
Lol, good times.
Here we go, many good options on the board!
CF – Top 20 eh Grant?
I like Smith but that was unexpected! Here we go!
Heres your shot Grant. Fleener???
As long as they didn’t trade a bunch of picks to move up to get him, he is good value at #30.
AJ Freakin Jenkins…
umm, well, that’s anti-climatic
WHATTTTT????? Once again we all had no clue who they would take!!!
I’ll trust Baalke with his choice, but right now I feel like this is a reach. I’d feel much better if it was Fleener and WR Quick in the second round.
Fleener at 30 I mean.
The first round went so fast, the NFL is now playing a lot of commercials to catch up to promises. One pick, twenty commercials. It’s like torture for Grant. Pure torture.
FLEENER!!! PALEEEZZ I saw them pass on desean jackson and I couldn’t take it again. no chilo please!!
I’ll take Jenkins
Jenkins? Seriously?
J. Jenkins?
We have quite a few options: Glenn, Fleener, Randle.
Hopefully we can trade back and get another pick while still getting one of those guys.
The Vikings could have waited and traded with us instead of Baltimore.
WTF?
Talk about a reach. Jenkins would have been available later. They should have traded back to the middle of the 2nd round if they wanted this guy.
Yep. Don’t get me wrong, I like Jenkins and think he will be a good WR – as I’ve mentioned on here before I see him as the closest thing to Brandon Lloyd or Mike Wallace in this year’s draft – but he would easily have lasted to the mid 2nd round.
I wouldn’t be too quick to call reach. Last year Aldon was projected to go around 20, all the draftniks yelled “reach!” and it turned out the Texans were targeting Aldon at 11.
We may find out the Colts were set on Jenkins a few weeks from now.
yet again, in the first round Trent has left me confused
ok, well he’s fast at least. too bad he’s not tall
WTF?
I’m not gonna argue with Baalke but it seems like Jenkins would have been there at the end of round 2. Guess we know how Harbaugh feels about Fleener now, ouch.
yep
I heard that brother.
What??????????
No CF Grant? ehehehehehe
No Fleener!! Wow – JH doesn’t draft his former Stanford players. Where is the height for the RZ?
That says a lot about Fleener in my opinion.
It says more about Baalke. He can’t draft pass catchers. This is a horrendous pick.
I agree 100 percent Big P!!!! Surprised not shocked, he is only 6feet and not a big blocker!!! He is fast!!!!
Grant,
I’m sure Harbaugh gave Baalke plenty of input about Fleener. I am surprised with the pick though.
Wow… wow…. wow. Grant…. you saying you know more than Baalke?
GC, what are the beat writers saying? Please give us some insight!
Baalke absolutely hates the Bay Area schools. Some kids from Stanford must have mugged him.
cohn you so obviously have no idea what you’re talking about… You were saying we’d have to trade up to get fleener that he’s the best pass catcher in the draft and absolutely no one that matters in the nfl agreed with you tonight so just shut up..
Hofer, can you please pass me that bottle of wine. I need to get drunk now ; )
Jack, you are a few behind. Enjoying the drama with a few glasses under my belt. But I get your point!
Can I join you guys Jack?
WTF??? WHO??
Well, can’t be too upset, remember how we felt with Aldon Smith?
Who the hell is AJ Jenkins?
A. J Jenkins will be a great player than crabtree ! Time is almost running out for Kyle william with the niners.. The 49ers made a good pick. No way, was the niners going to pick another TE, with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker they already have to very good tandem. I won’t be surprise they get another WR or G in the 2nd or 3rd round. The 49er defense is already set for the next 6 years.
Matt,
A. J Jenkins is the one that the 49ers were longing for, a receiver thats dangerous, with a break away speed, and has very good hands and has alot of upside than Crabtree.. His going to make this offense very explosive, he understand the game and he knows where his at in football field.
I agree, Jenkins has the all the skills to mature into a starter. He has above average vertical threat. And this kid is going tobe fun to watch in a 49ers uniform, for quite sometime.
Before draft day, i didn’t think that the niners would draft TE C. Fleener. They already have 4 TE”S in their stable V. Davis, D. Walker, N, Byham and konrad Reuland.
And so ends the Fleener fetish…
does it mean the end of Williams?
A speed guy. hmm?
ahhhhhhhhhhh…………………………. too bad. No Fleener……… Mexican Fishing for you….
I just heard Rich Eisen drop Harbaalke. I was the one who coined that phrase, BTW.
Hey, now they trade up to the 2nd round and grab CF. Not a bad move!
Tim – is that you?
Jordo, is that you?
Ok. Didn’t see that coming.
There smiling in the war room!
They’re…
The NFL Net shot showed them looking rather… blah.
Are the 9ers trying to find the smallest WRs in the league?? Will RM even last the year? I wanted CF or RRandle. TBD LOL
Baalke did the unexpected and that was what I expected. Jenkins welcome aboard. Cant believe we didnt go after Fleener tho.
Could we not have traded back for Jenkins?
What? Again, what?
Nothing against the player but couldn’t we trade back for anything and still get him?
And what’s the deal with the Bucs logo during our pick?
In Trent we trust ..
I kinda think this is like R W McQuarters. The 49ers wanted and targeted that pass rusher Seattle grabbed, and now we get Jenkins. I’m….. not pumped.
I don’t remember A.J. Jenkins name ever being mentioned here. But it wouldn’t surprise me if Baalke/Harbaugh may have a few tricks up their sleeve.
Nobody had him here in their mocks, but he was on the list of visits…
So where does Fleener go?
Was Jenkins on anybody’s mock? Was he on *anybody’s* 1st round list?
Oh well,s in Harbaugh/Balke we trust, right?
Maybe Fleener’s available in the 2nd ;)
CBS sports draft compares him to BLloyd.
Wasn’t B.Lloyd available when we got rid of Braylon?
Every mock I saw had Jenkins late 2 / early 3.
I don’t get it they got MM for that role. They also have MC who is about that size but heavier. Where is the height?
NFL Net has him as a 5th rounder. Baalke must see something that they don’t, I guess.
Fleener will go to indy if he’s still there to be paired with Luck.
Baalke must be a great poker player, you can’t get a read on the guy. Jenkins, with the very little analysis I’ve read, is that quick twitch receiver the 9ers are looking for. Williams may be history.
Williams was history when that punt hit his knee and he lied and said it didn’t. Lol.
Mr. Negative,
Didn’t you know…it was AS’s fault.
Was not expecting that… I trust the guys though.
Only thing is could we have gotten him in 2nd? If not and they like him then I trust Harbs and crew
NYG grabs CF?
Nope Cordy Glenn sounds like.
Hey Grant, up your ass with the Fleener pick! Wrong again just like every other hater! Do your homework before you pop off clown.
Easy dude. Refill your glass, have a couple tokes, chill a bit. Nobody was going to predict this draft. I was thinking Brian Quick or Silatolu, how ’bout you? Did you predict Jenkins? C’mon, man. : >)
Lotsa good playahs left for mañana & Saturday.
Wow easy Prime. Nobody got this pick right and it’s a head scratcher.
Hof… the height is Moss and Davis. Now whoever the qb is has to get their head out of their butt n give akers a break. we got the players, we need a man to get them the ball
Steel, I just posted the very same thing.
Steel, RMoss was out of football last year. With his other issues let’s see if he lasts the full year.
ok, my 3rd base anology has come through, you make it to 3rd base with a chick, and the parents come home!!! blue ballz
You got to 3rd, and found a tranny.
lmfao!! we are in SF after all.
Obviously, not in my sights but on my radar screen. Of the WRs that PFW considered suited to “X”, they had Jenkins 3rd behind Randle and Quick. He’s got quick twitch suddenness and upside. Based on Trent’s track record, I’m not worried. They spent #30 on this guy, I bet he can play.
Martin can block on third down, unlike Blount!
Lets go back to this huge question….why not trade back?????????? makes no sense at all with so much talent available and at a need position in G too.
I sure cant see this guy being better than Fleener!
THe muscled hamster is off the board.
Baalke must have wanted him, because he sounds like he might have been available a bit later. Until we can judge this draft, i have to agree with anything Baalke/Harbaugh want to do, because the last 2 drafts were pretty damn good.
Hope we find a guard…it just takes one guy underperforming and we wont be able to run or throw – not this team, anyway.
Here’s an overview from NFL Combine;
Jenkins was a two-year starter at Illinois (while also starting four games over his first two years) for the now-departed Ron Zook and has the speed to take the top off of defenses in the NFL. He separates well when running with defenders and is good in securing the catch. He has shown a good amount of production and has fifth-round value at the next level if he can continue to get open the way he did in the Big Ten.
5th rd wow…
Here’s another analysis from SI;
Biography: Two-year starter awarded all-conference honors as a senior after posting career-best numbers of 90 receptions/1276 yards/8 TDs. Junior totals included 56/746/7.
Positives: Adequately sized wideout with a polished game. Smooth releasing off the line into pass routes, displays good quickness and the ability to get separation from defenders. Extends his hands to make the reception away from his frame and effectively adjusts to errant throws. Sells routes, looks the ball into his hands and possesses both soft and strong hands. Good eye/hand coordination. Comes back to the ball out of breaks and uses his frame to shield away defenders. Consistently finds the open space on the field. Holds onto the ball after taking big hits.
Negatives: Lacks a second gear and does not play to his 40 time. Average skill running after the catch.
Analysis: Jenkins displayed a lot of improvement in his game the past two seasons and is a natural pass catcher with the skills necessary to be a productive third wideout at the next level.
Projection: 2-3
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83103.html#ixzz1tCs13Sib
The ESPN guys had him projected as early 2nd round big niner.
Who the hell is going to get all these receivers the football?? lol.
Not JJ! lol
No kidding. Alex Smith couldn’t find his second read if it was pinned to his forehead.
and the Vikes wanted Tannehill, right? ‘geneous’
Every time you agree with Jordo, think what it does to your rep…………
Tuna, another Smither that is blinded by the nice guy Alex. You will soon see, like every other Smither, that wide receiver has never been our problem. It was the 1st round overall pick from 2005 after all. You Smithers just don’t get it and never will.
Smith can’t throw deep well enough to reach 4.37 speed. We got a new QB coming Spit!
If his first got open all the time, he wouldn’t need to spit.
Spit,
Smith doesn’t do 2nd reads. He’s better at looking for missing people than he is open receivers!
He has not rep here. It’s all nonsense.
The same guy who threw that great pass to Vernon Davis against the Saints in the playoffs.
Your hero Alex dumb ass!
Grant is mad because he didn’t see this coming therefore it must be a terrible pick.
Yeah he had Stephen Hill in the top 10, and he fell out of the first. Had Fleener as the best pass catcher in the draft, fell out of the first.
jenkins ton of catches good kid ,fast, great routs
I had 3-4 wrs ahead of him but if Harbaugh/Baalke thinks Jenkins is the best fit I trust them. Hopefully the other Jenkins continues to fall and we can get him in the 2nd.
Very disappointing pick. Harbaugh passes on Fleener? Hmmmm. Interesting. Hope the Giants do not get him. I think Baalke was targeting Irvin. Bet he thought he’d be there but old Pete pulled a fast one.
“Very disappointing pick.”
Kinda like Aldon Smith was last year?
“You think you know. But you don’t. And you never will.”
I do not need you to tell me what I will think or what I know. You do not know me and I do not profess to know anything. I feel disappointed and until I see Mr. Jenkins perform like Aldon Smith nothing you say or anyone else says will change that feeling. I trust Baalke but I also like Mr. Reagan want to verify.
@DS anything this regime does is ok with me. In the analysis I read they mentioned that he’s a polished receiver. Maybe that first half that Victor Cruz had in the Championship game left more of an impression on Harbaugh and Baalke than Graham did with the Saints, just speculating.
Hear, hear, DS.
I didn’t say anything except the truth razor. I can accept it. I don’t know anything about the draft/office of the Niners. But, I at least know that, and am not going to start my relationship with our new #1 pick by hating the guy.
Where have we seen that before? Hmmm. Maybe AS. Nope. I won’t do it. I said all this time I will support any player we get, and I unlike some welcher here, will. If you want to start your relationship with our guy by needing him to prove himself to me.
He is a Niner. I default to liking him. You have to do something bad for me to change my opinion. Jenkins has done nothing bad.
P.S. Razor – That favorite quote of mine was said by a HC who lead his team in the NFC from a horrible first year to 10 wins with defense. Then went to the opposite conference, and did the same thing. This time with great offense. If he says that you don’t know, you don’t. Neither do I/Grant/other bloggers/media.
Disappointment never equates to hate. I appreciate your wisdom but do not bill me because I never made an appointment. I like Mr. Jenkins. I did not like him in the 1st Round. His job is clear. Make me love you, because baby “like” just ain’t gonna cut the mustard.
To me, you become a Niner, you have my complete faith. You don’t need to prove anything to me. You can only lose it. But if we get you (especially drafted) I’m in your corner as long as I think you are doing all you can. Doesn’t mean I won’t look to upgrade or evaluate you.
Wasn’t Jerry Rice an unknown 1st round pick when the 49ers picked him too?… Just saying, no one can bash the 49ers front office until after the next two seasons about this pick… Give it time…
Anybody else notice what Berman said?
If the Niners got anything from the outside, we win the Title game.
Are the odds of letting MC go higher, or the same now?
If anything, I like the pick if not for any other reason than for those who are too Fleener crazy to have the Niners pass him up. His old coach had his chance to get him. And he choose not to.
Considering how fast this guy is, I guess we know that JH does not doubt AS arm.
where’s the timing though?
@big niner
I really don’t care. Just as long as the guy can get himself open. Speed, push off (as long as it isn’t called, anything else) to get open. Something which many fans here do not have as a requirement of our WR’s.
Harbaugh says he’s too biased on his Stanford players! I trust the pick, just surprised with all the trades going on that we couldn’t trade back.
odds are zero. Crabtree’s stayin. Get over it.
Ballerz gonna ball, haterz gonna hate.
Maybe MC thinks he is playing basketball. All the drops he had in the games we needed him. The ball bounced a lot after it hit his hands. Like he was playing basketball.
Your selective memory is hilarious.
Selective memory?????
I gave MC the benefit of the doubt when he held out at the time. What great catches did he make in the playoffs? VD had a much worse regular season than MC. But, he showed up when it mattered. So, therefore, VD is better. Playoff game success is what you need to have.
Berman said it immediately. If we got production form outside (WR’s), even just a smidge, we win that game. Ray Ratto wrote it. If you are dreaming of getting a player, dream of getting LF, not PM. And what position does LF play? WR. If MC produced like a WR should, we wouldn’t need to dream ff getting LF. We would have won a 6th Super Bowl.
Do you have selective memory? Because it seems you do. Not to mention short term memory loss. Berman said it like an hour ago.
Goodbye, Kyle Williams.
I don’t think he’ll be gone.
Jenkins, Crabtree, Ginn, Moss, Manningham….. you carry six receivers?
9ers shoulda kept 6 last year. woulda had more depth for the playoffs.
I am a bit worried about Baalke’s WR draft history: Kyle Williams, Ronald Johnson…
KW and RJ were both late round picks though. If a 6th or 7th doesn’t work out, it’s not completely unexpected. Plus, KW actually looked good in his limited playing time.
Knights of columbus!!!
After Trent Baalkes performance in the last two drafts I have issued him a credit card for this draft. I wont critize his picks till we see the actual results next fall.
That being said, Jenkins is a guy I liked a lot. Reminds me of Issac Bruce when the Rams took him in the second round years ago. Very talented but I am suprised. I guess we know Baalkes super-secret mystery player is now. Hope for the best.
Don’t worry Fleener fans. Maybe the Niners trade picks 2-7 to move up to get him tomorrow.
I said I wanted at least 2 WR’s. That is one. Although I am scared of the first round WR. But I put my trust in TB when he was hired over Lombardi by Jed, and he got us JH. Then he got us Aldon Smith. So, who are we to doubt him?
The answer from last years JH’ question seems appropriate here…
NOOOOBODY!
Maybe the writer of the blog will take this lesson as well. Don’t get so enamored by one player that you ignore every other option.
They don’t have enough ammunition to move up in top tier of the second.
I liked Fleener but if his own coach cant make a good enough pitch for him? Kind of reminds me of Carrol -Mays. Cant see moving up to get him.
@Andrew/undercenter
I have no qualms with Fleener. Or with any of these guys. Unless they are not a Niner. Then I do. lol
I just got tired of all the Fleener talk/predictions of us with him. FDM made a nice point the other day. If Fleener is as good as so many here think he is, he wouldn’t last anywhere near as long to #30.
Agreed.
@DS, I was all in on Flenner but I read this mock that said, why draft a second string tight end in the first round and it changed me. Jenkins is an insurance policy if Moss spits the bit (little horse-racing jargon, means to quit). I have ultimate faith in the guys running the show. This team is built for right now, Super Bowl winner. No grooming or waiting for someone to find their ceiling. This guy looks good to go,
@Andrew
I was/am in the camp of getting somebody who can force you to 2-team somebody not named VD on our team. That is what I wanted out of this draft.
I was never for, and certinaly not agaisnt drafting anybody. And I agree with your statement about this team is ready to win now. No drafting a guy to have him sit for 3 years or something. If our team plays like they did last year and forces teams to have to 2 team VD and Jenkins (or player x, I don’t much care, or in my wishes 3 WR’s),we will win 2 of the next 3 Super Bowls barring major injury. We are so much better than everybody else. We have a complete team. No other team is remotely as complete as ours.
Anyone actually looked at the film? This guy has sure hands, is stupid fast, and in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O931W3wadpY
takes a mad hit and holds on.
I was shocked at the pick, but I love the film. I’m sold.
I can just see him running through defenses on a slant route.
Wow! I like him.
I like him!
Academic all big ten too. Smart football player. good pick. I guess Baalke new his guy was gonna be there after all.
The kid has good hands. He won’t be THAT open in the NFL though.
My only thing is I wish we could get a guy that could break tackles. I miss the JR/JT combo.
So this kid has to push a vet off the team. Who is it going to be? Does Jenkins have any special teams experience? If not, Ginn is safe. So it has to be Kyle Williams? IF he can beat him out in camp that is.
A few good catches and a bunch of blown coverage…..great video of how not to play in the defensive backfield…..I thought we were looking at a wr…..
what time is rd 2 tomorrow?
Hour earlier!
Eveyone’s favorite, Greg Cosell, says he really likes the 49ers pick of Jenkins. Says “he is good on film, with nice combo of traits. Has a chance to be a quality starting WR.”
I think the 9ers chose the right Jenkins.
This will not go down as a steal. Just a ho-hum pick. Oh well, it is what it is.
Jordo.. Lol. we got players. Smith will have no excuses in 2012. Ds… Maybe its kaps arm harbaugh doesnt doubt??
Steel, we need a strong arm to hit speed wideouts. Our alleged starter does not have that!
Alex Smith is gone….. bye, bye.
Kaep will have a hard time keeping JJ on 3rd string. He’ll be looking back all TC.
Grant wrong again about Fleener, your a joke!
prime why are attacking him so much? so he was wrong as were so many of us….what’s your deal?
Yeah, it is supposed to be fun.
The 9ers can trade up and grab CF tomorrow. Why so bitter?
Yeah, but it’s fun giving Grant grief. Good grief, Grant… what were you thinking? Were the blog hits worth it?
See? That’s fun.
Because he is clueless, the Niners were never gonna take a TE in the 1st round when they have three capable ones already on the roster. Insted he wrote about it for day’s, he has no clue when it comes to football let alone the 49ers.
He is not qualified for the job, its clear in his writings and opinions, his Dad got him the job, the only reason he is on here, not trying to be a prick, just stating the facts.
@prime
The chances of any of us being right about this stuff is minimal. It’s fine that Grant was wrong. But he needs to understand that he is going to be wrong a lot more than he is going to be right. And he needs to cool it with the criticisms when he is wrong. If not, he is going to be a very mad writer.
As Bill Parcells says. There is a reason why coaches coach. Players play. Writers write, and fans watch.
Why so hostile? I don’t think anyone saw this coming. (Which, by-the-way, makes it damned interesting.)
Not a big deal and Big P is right, this should be FUN.
@Adam
Grant seems quite angry with the pick. Not happy. Since we don’t know how Jenkins is actually going to play here, why be angry with the pick?
Be happy. He is here. He is a Niner. He is now in the family. I don’t welcome a family member in the manner Grant did.
Not saying Prime was nice to Grant. But Grant’s writing after the Title game loss has been very harsh of some players (guess who) and not others. Grant said the Niners would win the title game. They didn’t, and he got pissed more than a reporter should. Same thing here. Grant has promoted Fleener as “the guy”. And refused to look at any other options. Then when the Niners don’t go that direction, Grant wrote something that I’d expect a blogger to write. Not a reporter.
Jed York said not to be suprised if the pick wasn’t a sexy one, meaning maybe we don’t know him but he fits our system!
Good news is I watched the highlights and he catches a lot of high over thrown balls. And dives to catch th elow thrown ones too.
perfect for smith , lol
In Baalke I trust. They clearly saw more in Jenkins than both Hill and Fleener. Just because no one saw this pick doesn’t mean its a bad one. No one predicted us to pick Aldon last year and that turned out very well. Chin up GC.
Biography: Two-year starter awarded all-conference honors as a senior after posting career-best numbers of 90 receptions/1276 yards/8 TDs. Junior totals included 56/746/7.
Positives: Adequately sized wideout with a polished game. Smooth releasing off the line into pass routes, displays good quickness and the ability to get separation from defenders. Extends his hands to make the reception away from his frame and effectively adjusts to errant throws. Sells routes, looks the ball into his hands and possesses both soft and strong hands. Good eye/hand coordination. Comes back to the ball out of breaks and uses his frame to shield away defenders. Consistently finds the open space on the field. Holds onto the ball after taking big hits.
Negatives: Lacks a second gear and does not play to his 40 time. Average skill running after the catch.
Analysis: Jenkins displayed a lot of improvement in his game the past two seasons and is a natural pass catcher with the skills necessary to be a productive third wideout at the next level.
Projection: 2-3
Above post was for Jenkins
“Extends his hands to make the reception away from his frame and effectively adjusts to errant throws.”
Ok, now I’m sold. Great pick Baalke.
Hey for everybody clammoring for Mike Wallace…. You just got him. This kid can play. Check him out.
Exactly… he’s like a Hybrid between Mike Wallace and Hakeem Nicks…. long arms and fast. Catches everything with his hands. Great Harbaalke find!
You mean Jenkins, right Dan?
Because if we got Wallace right now, I am in high heaven.
I’ll tell you what…… Baalke just found another Hakeem Nicks. This kid Jenkins has long arms, catches everything and he’s fast. Doesn’t matter what the so called experts in media say. The Pros are in War Rooms – not in the media, and Baalke has a great track record. And Harbaugh knows receivers. This kids looks good on YouTube.
damn right!
Grant
You’re a reporter. Not a blogger. You’re 7:48 post does not reflect a reporters elite level of writing. But that of a blogger. I think it says something a lot more about MC. And what the team thinks of him. Why draft another WR in round 1 if MC is all that?
DS may not be far off the mark here. There is a reason they drafted a WR roughly the same size as MM and MC.
Go away!
You are not wanted here. I don’t like you. Never will.
BS,
It’s called speed dummy!
Welcher.
Welcher
Welcher
Welcher
Welcher
Or with yourself BigP.
After those 2 seconds are up, turn off the computer.
That was at BigP. Not hof.
Got divorced BigP?
I would understand your wife’s reasons.
Freak show,
You could be somebody’s wife and husband at the same time! Put the lotion in the basket.
Ripping a player you probably never watched in college before he’s played a down in the NFL. I know it hurts that they didn’t follow your mock, but don’t be that guy Grant.
I like Baalke picking over anyone on this blog, including Grant. His job depends on it. Ours does not.
Well it looks like he uses his big hands to catch the ball away from his body. I didn’t see break away speed though.
Speed kills, and we have quite a bit of it at the receiver position, not to mention Vernon. Now, time to find that arm to sling it to them!!!
You can’t say they didn’t surround him with weapons, that’s for sure.
Big P,
Of course they will say the receivers are running too fast now. The deep ball is really a problem Smith has. Were talking about 50-60 yards, not 6.
I really believe that’s JJ next year, then Kaep and JJ in 2013 in a weird qb battle. Bye, bye Smith.
Just proves that JH and TB realize that the Championship game needed WRs. Now they are focused on that area of need.
Alexfan11,
They didn’t know the team needed wideouts before the playoffs started. Why did we know and they didn’t. At least they know now. Now about that QB………….
Mr Negative,
You are notorious for being wrong here. Nothing has changed with you last couple of comments. JH and TB know that a WR with separation similar to VD can be a weapon for AS. It will be a great year with AS at the helm. Big numbers and a big year.
Hofer – you’re notorious for being a company man. You want to attack? Get ready to be attacked. What have you ever contributed to this blog? Humor? I haven’t seen it? Insight? Nope. What about taking a unique position and defending it? No again. All you do it defend the team, and it’s weak. It’s pu$$y.
That comment didn’t address you so mind your business.
Spit, don’t you get tired, insulting others? I’m surprise the others here don’t get offended with your sarcasm remarks and your hurtful words.
Life is too short friend, to create enemies.
Terrible pick? {A.J. Jenkins} how do know so soon? Wonder what you said last year about A. Smith & C. Culliver.
Again with the yards per catch. Why is that the only detail you focus on?
In Harbaugh/Baalke I trust.
It gives the “experts” something to talk about. JR didn’t have the best average either. How did that effect anything LSX?
Rice had a monster average
BS never has a clue Grant. He didn’t even bother to look at Rice’s college average per catch. Bs, wrong again!!
Rice had his best year as a senior and averaged 16.4 yards. That isn’t much of a difference. I also wanted Fleener big time, but it may still work out. He has a big 40 time, 4.39 like you covet.
He had some great average/catch years. But for much of his time, he was not exceptional. JR had an average of 14.8 yards/catch. Issac Bruce had an average of 14.9 yards/catch. Exceptional is over 200 TD’s. Nobody is even close. Especially at the time JR played.
Also, he got more of his average off his YAC than any other WR. So, he did more work than most others.
And little boy welcher. So stupid, he calls me the name which describes himself better than any other.
Not a big play receiver? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O931W3wadpY
1:37 : he can catch AS passes \o/
Actually, he is not a slot receiver and they will play him opposite Crabtree after moss is gone. He would have gone early half of 2nd, what the first round should tell you is 3 things: Fleener and Hill were horribly overrated and overhyped. Hill had basically zero college production and Fleener had relatively little for a TE with best QB prospect since Elway. Both have very limited quickness out of cuts, straight line speed. If you cant separate in NFL you are average at best. Jenkins has been compared with Lloyd. Same height, weight speed and better college production. I trust Baalke over you any day and I will take a more mature Lloyd any day. In Baalke I trust.
Yeah but then Jenkins must have been severely underrated. NFL Net has him as a 5th rounder.
Sooo… we either have the best scouts in the league or this was the bonehead move of the year.
Based on past performance I’d say we’re OK. On the other hand, Ronald Johnson didn’t make it through camp last year.
Dunno. We’ll have to see. I remember talk last year about Kendall Hunter being too small to play in the NFL and that was obviously proven wrong.
Guess it’s a good thing none of us are GMs! :P
nfl.net? Anyway, he was generally viewed as a mid-to-late 2nd rounder. Who cares though, go see where the Packers have drafted most of their recievers. WR and RB are a dime dozen and hard to project. My guess, this guy will be an excellent WR in 2 years. Pro bowler? No, but outside of the top 7 picks this year, I don’t see a ton. This was a weak but very deep draft. I bet AJ rated equal with Hill with more production.
@Adam
Jack was quite persistent that his mock was 100% accurate.
Must be a webpage issue. Because what is displayed is wrong.
DS, I nailed it, but the NFL execs messed up : )
Funny, the guy I picked at 61 went at 15, and Fleener is still on the board. I knew Irvin was good, and I am not looking forward to watching Davis try to get his hand on him for 2 games per year.
I thought of Lloyd too.
This guys got speed and hands. Plus return capability. The more I research the more I like it. Can’t wait till the season starts. Alex has a lot of weapons now
@DS… Ya i mean Jenkins. He and Wallace are cut from the same cloth it seems. 6 foot. Fast. Great hands. Great ball locating skills. Should really help ‘lift the top off’ as they say. Jenkins plays like a professional too, i like his on field demeanor.
@Dan
Shoot. Kinda wish you didn’t tell me now. Let me go to sleep thinking we had Wallace as well.
:- )
As I said yesterday. Even if we didn’t have a draft, we still have players currently on the roster to get us over the top.
We all went into this draft trusting Baalke/Harbaugh with their decisions. If they feel A.J. can contribute i’m all in!
Let’s get to TC and see what this kid has before reeming the FO. Baalke/Harbaugh might be wheelin’ and dealin’ at this very moment to attain a higher position with the 2nd pick?
I like what the 49ers just did. They didn’t trade. They didn’t move. They didn’t panic. They also didn’t draft a guy the media or the blogs liked. They went out and found a guy nobody else was talking about, and picked him ahead of Randle, Fleener, Hill and Jeffrey. That’s confidence. And if you look at the kid on film, he’s good. This once again shows we have talent in the 49ers’ front office. This kid can catch the football, and he can run. It’s hard to bust in the NFL if you can do both things. Crabtree couldn’t do both coming out of college.
In addition, the 49ers didn’t make another mistake so many people on this blog were hoping they’d make – OG in the first. All the good guards are gone? Horse pucky. Kilgore was a 5th round selection. Solari will find depth behind Kilgore in the later rounds.
And even I speculated that the 49ers wanted that pass rusher the Seahawks got, and this was a fall back option, but if that’s the case, the 49ers could have traded back to collect more picks. The Broncos did it at 31. But Harbaalke sat tight and got who could have been their guy all along. Nobody will ever know. But I like the resolve, the pick, and thus far, I like day one.
I approve this message:O)
Well thought out -Spit.
The thing about Jenkins is if they could have drafted him at #61? Was he on anyone’s radar before pick #61? Seems like a reach but we won’t know until he is assimilated into the system/program and becomes productive.
Hofer, Kinda similar to the Culliver pick last year. Everyone called it a reach, but he was a key to our defense. I would rather they gone with Fleener, but at least we got an offensive weopon. As you like to say, all arrows up right.
Jack, I just saw Walterfootball’s 2nd round pick #38 have the Jags picking Jenkins so not much of a reach. Again, all about productivity. Now the 9ers finally have some weapons on offense.
That looks about right Hofer. He was rated as a 2nd round guy. How far do you think Fleener falls tomorrow?
Yeah, Walter had him there, Mayock was early second round, I think. NFL Net’s consensus was way off though.
Not a terrible reach but it does make you wonder if we couldn’t have gone back a bit. Although it takes a trading partner and maybe none could be found outside the division.
Weird but interesting. If he’s half as productive as Aldon Smith was last season… Sweet Jebus!
Jack< I say CF goes in the 1st half of 2nd round around #40. Maybe a bit earlier.
Alexfan11,
ESPN said he was an early 2nd rounder. Possibly in the 1st 7 picks in the 2nd.
If he’s a good pro it doesn’t matter where you picked ‘em.
I have no idea if this kid is any good or not but I do know Baalke and company know a lot more than I do so I’m on board with it. Kid is fast and is a more polished player than Hill who many would have been ok with.
After last year I’m not going to question these guys. They know what they’re doing. It just finished up one of the weirdest 1st rounds ever. Bunch of trades, players getting drafted way higher than expected, others falling out of the first and the whole thing took 3 hours. Crazy.
Seems to me that Jenkins will be the WR that can get separation similar to VD. Probably the new #1 but we’ll see soon.
I think you’re right, Rocket. I’ll admit I have no idea where this kid comes from, and how good he might be. But as others have said, after last year…pretty hard to doubt our brain trust, no? Shoot, these guys could probably take a centerfielder and turn him into a WR.
I hope they’ve got a good plan for getting some O line help…
I wanted Kleener, couldn’t believe it when they didn’t take him, guess what, if the coach and GM think Jenkins is the guy I”m on board 100%, Who knows what they have planned next. This is great, I love it. When it is all done, WE will see that these guys know what they are doing.
Grant…How old are you? I don’t you remember blowing tons of sunshine up the butts of Harbaugh and Baalke after last years draft either. Did you get into a fight with your girl or something…she kick your ass down the road? Don’t be so emotional.
@DS… Ha ha …. Sorry to confuse… I just think its a notable comparison given the timeline of media events in 49erland since the season ended.
And as Harbaalkes’ masterplan unfolds, what will be the gameplan? Rounds 2 and 3 are in my opinion where you can really find excellent value and production.
He catches with his hands, can run, and goes after the ball. Question is how he adjusts to the competition level in the NFL. I look forward to seeing him in red and gold this year. Crabtree will need to step up his game.
Grumpy,
If crabtree doesn’t change his work ethic’s, I won’t be surprise next season the niners move him. Its sad, since crabtree got drafted he never had a camp to work with the other players or a preseason games to prepare for the regular season games.
Crabs had better come to TC ready to work this time. He is no longer the Golden boy and if does not watch it, he is going to get his butt replaced.
@manila and grumpy
Especially if Jenkins is in TC Day 1 participating.
Baalke picked Jenkins a couple weeks ago and last night they all finalized their decision that it was Jenkins as their 1st pick and Baalke wrote that name on a paper and sealed it in an envelope and said, THIS is who we are going to pick !
He was who they wanted and they turned down the chance to pick many other players that all the so called experts and all the fans said they should pick. That is confidence in the ability to pick talent !
This coming from the guy who called Stephen Hill in top 10 and Luke Keucly not going in the first. Grant you know less than nothing about football let alone enough to doubt Baalke.
Feeling like a jets fan right now j-e-T-who did we just.pick? 2 of the biggest baddestOg in the draft sitting tjere at 30nm we draft.who? A wr? fleener would even have made more sense at least he coulhavstayed in and helped the weak right side of our line block some of the time. glenn and silatolu are there when we pick again
Fleener has been labeled as someone that can’t block at all.
The 49ers have 4 TE”S Vernon, Delanie, Nate and konrad.. All these guys are big TE’S the smallest is Delanie all average 6’4 .
The niners are smart in getting A.J who has speed, good hands, with an average vertical threat and has the feel with the football field where to go..Seeing the films of this young speedster is remarkable everytime he catches the ball he gets alot of seperation from the defenders and has a dangerous breakaway speed..
First Gold Helmet of 2012:)
The 49ers picked the wrong Jenkins. I know Janoris has off field issues, but look at this from value point of view. J. Jenkins has top 10 talent. AJ Jenkins, on the other hand, has mid-2nd round talent at best. If you have a man crush on the guy, just trade down, get extra picks, and still get your guy.
Damn, with S. Hill, Fleener, R. Randle, Andrea Branch, and A. Silatolu still on the board, this pick does’t make sense. No wonder ESPN gave the 49ers the lowest grade.
So, looking ahead, its way too complicated to try to Mock-up Rds #2 & #3. Let me offer this as an alternative:
1/ Guys I’m looking for on Day #2:
1A: Probably gone: Trumaine Johnson, Amini Silatolu, Peter Konz, Jared Crick.
1B: Maybe there: George Iloka, Markele Martin, Duke Ihenacho, Casey Hayward, Trevor Guyton, Mitchell Schwartz, Mike Turbin
2/ Some guys for Day#3:
Coryell Judie, Brandon Marshall (OLB), Jacques Smith, Jeff Adams, Devon ‘Wiggle’ Wylie, Patrick Edwards, Mike Ball, Ronnie Hillman, Josh kadu, Augie Cole, Miles Burris.
Nobody knew the Texans and Wade Phillips were ready to take Aldon Smith on the 13th or something pick. Imagine if we would of traded back further because we all thought we could of had AS towards the end if the round? Same thing here, who cares what everyone thinks, if your happy and confident, go for it!!!
Michael Lombardi said about Coach Walsh that he didn’t care about rates. 1st round, 2nd, 3rd? Who cares? If you think he’s the guy who will fit your team the best, just take him.
In HarBaalke I trust.
going to be tough watching our OL struggle vs the speed pass rush of newly drafted players like bruce irvin, and bull rush of micheal brockers, while trying to contain fitz AND floyd. i certainly hope we can tighten up the OL. the kid looks great on film vs extremely subpar talent. i saw plenty of speed, plenty of seperation, a willingness and ability to make the tough catch. the one glaring thing (actually 2) that i wasnt able to find/see was his run blocking ability and how he deals with press coverage. the lousy big 10 teams dont play much press man coverage. but youtube does say that illinois seemed to target him upwards of 20 times per game. there must be a reason.
To go after the “sixth most popular WR choice of the talking heads” tells me Jenkins impressed more than the others who visited. And to see Jenkins picked over Fleener, Glenn, and other popular “best players available” says TB/JH feel they want to make *this* WR relevant in their scheme. First round picks make the team. Can’t see KW beating out Ginn. Jenkins has 2012 to get feel for NFL. His second year (2013), Ginn and Moss’ contracts are done. Manningham is on his last year and Crabtree only has one left. We are all Niners fans so let’s get behind this pick. Glad it was AJ Jenkins and not Janoris Jenkins!
On the clip that was posted, watch how he uses his hands. He attacks the ball with his hands – he does not let it come to his body. He has speed, maybe not ‘functional’ 4.31, but enough to reach the edge. He is smart. He has nice body control. He can take a hit. He can separate against this low level of competition, we’ll see against NFL corners.
I am cautiously very optimistic. Looking forward to seeing him in August.
You just described Chris Owusu – except for taking the hit part – and could be had in later rounds.
Grant, this kid seems like a Mike Wallace, Victor Cruz, and Brandon Lloyd all rolled up into one. How much is a player like that worth, if it turns out to be true? I was hoping for Fleener myself, but maybe they see Walker as too valuable to them in the running game.
Fleener will probably be more productive in year one, if he goes to the right team. But this kid could be very good in two years, at a position we really need to substantially reinforce. I was taken aback like everyone when the pick was made (“WHO?”), but after watching him, I am cautiously very optimistic.
I’m with you. The story about Baalke being super-certain about the pick, is encouraging. Looking forward to tomorrow.
AJ Jenkins? Who? If not Fleener, Hill or Silatolu, then why not trade back? The only thing that makes sense is the 49ers must have thought another team was eyeing AJ Jenkins in picks 31-36. (I think that’s crazy, but what do I know)
1) Baalke is very sharp, using his scout background to make a talent assessment about Jenkins the rest of the NFL totally missed. Like Aldon last year, only even more of a surprise. Jenkins will be a star. A quick twitch runner that can get separation and knife up field Victor Cruz style.
or…
2) Baalke has a great eye for defensive talent, but has yet to prove he can draft as effectively for offensive players. Jenkins will be lost, failing to distinguish himself while buried in a foursome of similar sized receivers including Crabtree, Williams and Manningham.
@ultimate warrior we keep drafting the wrong kind of WR so we can have ascapegoats when alex smith fails us again for th 9 th straight year
Yeah
That must be it. Destroy the team for the sake of not hurting AS’s feelings.
Seriously. Do you even think before you write?
Island breed,
Hope your comments was just a sarcastic remarks. I don’t remember the 49ers have drafted any wide receivers tobe a scapegoat for anyone. Thats very funny !