49ERS DEFENSE VS. PATRIOTS OFENSE: Arguably the best offense against the best defense in the NFL, but San Francisco matches up well and here’s why. The Niners can harass Tom Brady with their four defensive lineman – Aldon Smith, Justin Smith, Ray McDonald and Ahmad Brooks – and cover the skill players with their seven other defenders (linebackers and defensive backs). The Niners can do what the Giants defense did to the Patriots last season, only better. San Francisco hit Eli Manning at least 18 times in the NFC championship game. If the 49ers can get to Brady half as many times when they play him Week 15 next season, they’ll have a good chance to beat him.
But it won’t be as easy as just sacking him. Brady can beat a good pass rush by throwing quick passes to his slot receiver, Wes Welker. Luckily for the Niners, they have one of the best slot corners in the NFL – Carlos Rogers. If Rogers can keep Welker in check by himself, the Niners are in business.
Of course, Brady wants to throw to his tight ends, Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Herenandez. No defense in the NFL is as equipped to cover those two as the Niners are with Patrick Willis and NaVorro Bowman.
Welker, Gronkowski and Hernandez are Brady’s three favorite targets, and the three Patriots skill players who cause the biggest matchup problems for opposing defenses, but the Niners should be able to cover each player man-to-man. Brady’s going to have to throw into tight coverage, and the Niners will have plenty of opportunities to pick him off.
Yes, the Patriots do have two new additions at wide receiver – Brandon Lloyd and Jabar Gaffney. Gaffney’s not a big threat – the Niners can single cover him with Tarell Brown. They can also single cover Lloyd with Chris Culliver. If Culliver can stick to Calvin Johnson and Mario Manningham, I think he can stick to Lloyd.
If the Niners defense is completely healthy when they play the Patriots next season, they could hold New England under 20 points – that’s how well they match up.
49ERS OFENSE VS. PATRIOTS DEFENSE: New England’s defense wasn’t good last regular season, but it did record 40 sacks – two less than the Niners. They lost Mark Anderson (10 sacks in ‘11), who signed with the Bills, but they drafted a pass rusher in the first round – Chandler Jones – and head coach Bill Belichick specializes in manufacturing a pass rush.
If an offense has top-notch pass protection and a Pro Bowl quarterback, it can torch the Patriots defense through the air. But the Niners don’t have that combination. They need to establish their running game first when they play New England.
The Patriots allowed 4.6 yards per carry last season. That’s bad. They’ll have to stack the box with their safeties to stop Frank Gore. While it’s usually a bad idea to run against a stacked box, the Niners can and should do it against New England. They should impose their will and run the ball right down the Patriots’ throat from “heavy” personnel – two tight ends (Davis and Delanie Walker), two running backs (Bruce Miller and Frank Gore) and one wide receiver (Randy Moss).
When San Francisco moves the chains a couple times on the ground from their heavy formations, New England will over-commit to stopping Frank Gore and Brandon Jacobs, and then Randy Moss can burn them on a deep play-action pass.
If Randy Moss burns New England deep, they’ll probably double team him, and that will open up Vernon Davis and the rest of the offense. Anyway, that’s the theory.
As long as the Niners can establish the run, they will win this matchup.
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The Patriot’s D will be much improved and I think they’ll force the Niners to beat them through the air. QB and O-line play will be critical.
The 49er offense has the potential in personal, play calling, running inside outside, throwing deep, short over the middle.
this might be the most balance offense the NFL has seen in years.
and that includes the ’07 Pats.
Manningham, Jacobs and Moss are three stars from that year, and each rule their own territory on the field. Throw in Gore, Davis and Crabtree and then turn LaMichael James loose and it could be ridiculous. Jenkins will contribute and of course there’s the other side of the ball. One of the main reasons why Belichich decided he could live without Moss is sadly due to how quickly the Pats would score leaving that anemic D out on the field for too long.
and they were stronger then than they are now,….until some of the younger guys start becoming stars.
@Grant
“While it’s usually a bad idea to run against a stacked box, the Niners can and should do it against New England.”
No. The whole purpose of the Niners getting Randy and Manningham and Jenkins was so that if teams tried to stack the box against the run, they would be punished.
Stack, the box, we’ll beat you throwing it. Go into nickel packages, we’ll run it.Play regular straight up D, we won’t make any mistakes (AKA TO) and our D will get you to make those mistakes and we’ll capitalize. Or our superior skill will eventually break you down.
Either way, just give up. Forfeit the game so you won’t embarrass yourselves playing against us. Plus, you won’t get the snot kicked out of you as a bonus.
By continuing to run the ball against stacked boxes they show the ability to impose their will, control the clock and set up their play action game which will slow down the pass rush so Smith can set his feet and make accurate throws.
The Pats defense has been set up to defend the pass in previous years. Because the offense is so high powered, they regularly end up in shoot outs. They haven’t been very good at stopping the run (though this may be in part influenced by focusing on stopping the pass). Drafting Hightower and Jones may help strengthen the run D a bit, but I still think this will be a weakness again this season.
If the 49ers defense can hold the Pats offense in check (not a simple task – it will all come down to how well the 49ers get pressure on Brady without committing more than 4 players), then the 49ers offense can control the game with a balanced offense. As far as I am aware the Pats defense isn’t particularly fast, so the 49ers speed merchants (Davis, Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, James) may provide a matchup problem.
Teams will stack the Box regardless of who is at WR until the offense can prove they can consistantly beat defenses in the passing game. By the time this game is played we will know if they plan to stack the box or not based on how our offense has performed to date. Its on Alex
Its not just on Alex, its on the entire offense. Its on Roman to call a balanced game. Its on the oline to open holes up. Its up to the oline to pass protect. Its on the WR’s to get seperation and its on Alex to do his job, get guys the ball and manage the game and most importantly, win the game.
If can make teams pay for stacking the box they will back off, but the book on Alex is he can’t, so they will continue to challenge him.
He needs to do it consistently for that to change. Hasn’t been consistent enough yet.
Great analysis Sherlock! Teams stacked the box last year against Alex and what happened Jack, yeah, 14 wins?
Slow down Chico, the Giants did it to keep him under 50% and got to the Super Bowl.
I didn’t say he can’t do it every once in a while. Doing it consistently is what will change how they defend him and the offense.
this will be a big time game if Moss is healthy. If he gets deep early, Belichick will panic and that will open up the draw and screen game, and Manninghma, Davis and Crabtree will roam around picking off first downs.
Really this one of the marquis match ups of the season, if Moss is playing well and is healthy.
the ultimate would be Harbaugh to play Moss at free safety on third and long and see if he can match wits with ex partner. now that would be must see TV.
Harbaugh is already talking about certain players going both ways, and I guarantee, putting Moss in at FS on third and long will shut down the deep ball. man, that would a sight to see.
Well, it sure would send a message to DG if Moss came in to replace him.
Moss did that a little bit at times while in NE.
“Belichick will panic…” Not likely.
panic is a bad word to describe that. But he won’t feel comfortable if Moss starts to burn the coverage.
and Moss has a reputation of knowing coverages and DB’s, which is why I over reacted a little, ’cause clearly he knows a lot more about the Pats than the average opponent. The really scary part would be to see Moss play some free safety on third and long and play some chess with Brady. That would be pretty electrifying.
And Harbaugh is crazy enough to see how effective that may be.
what a matchup. in fact, it’s kind of a bummer that the SF schedule looks to be the hardest in the league this season. really tough schedule. The breather are all in the NFC West and you never who is going to step up-
like Seattle in particular.
can’t wait.
Grant – Damn good job!
I hope Rogers can keep Welker contained, he needs to get physical with Welker & jam him off the line.
I’m still more worried about keeping their “bigs” (Gronkowski and Herenandez) in check in the red-zone.
Crab, good to see you back. I saw your comment to me on the last article. lol I was very busy today so I had to add one more comment before moving on. It’s going to be an outstanding year. All arrows up! (for AES lol)
Besides Grant, if you want AS to “prove” himself, this formation you propose won’t help.
You are betting the Pats can’t stop what they know is coming. That is a dangerous assumption.
I’m talking about the first drive of the game.
That does make more sense. Thanks Grant.
Have you gone to any of the practices since the twitter thing?
Ds,
What a dumb question? Do you really think a writer loses his credential for writing an article that a player doesn’t like. God, you are as dumb as a brick!!
Good analysis, Grant.
Since this is a game late in the season, there are a lot of uncertainties related to injuries. But I like your analysis of Niners D vs. Pat’s O. On the Niners O strategy, I think that the Niners’ passing game would be set by then and tuning up for the play-offs, So I’d expect a balanced offense that would probe the Pat’s D a good part of the first half, and then exploit the most vulnerable mismatch. Considering the off-season turnover, this season’s Patriot D should be an evolving through the season.
mood
The Pats D have been “evolving” since Teddie Bruschi (sp?) retired. That is a long time ago.
Being a big time Moss fan, I watched that ’07 season very closely and the turning point on D was when Colvin went down. In fact, it’s been downhill ever since-losing Samuel, Harrison, Seymour, Vrabel,…
they still haven’t pulled out of this. But the two rookies look good and Belichick has got to figure this thing out. That’s what amazes me about the 49ers. They built the D just like they did back when Lott and that young gun secondary was put together.
young, attacking, talented group with Willis in the middle. this defense is great and has Super Bowl written all over them. at every position. amazing.
Grant, great read. Question for you, did you get a chance to go out to 4949 this week?
Week 16? Even louder: WEEK 16? @ 15 ‘n’ OH! We will have home field through out all locked up and we will rest our 1st team and STILL probably win… Going away. Losing is not an option. Winning is fun!
I like this guy’s altitude.
Grant
Why aren’t you going in the order of the schedule?
This game is so late in the season its really hard to do matchups. Making certain assuptions that were all healthy and the offense is playing like last year, (I know we have additional weapons but we dont know about the offense yet) the running game will be paramont. We can run on them, now we dont know about there D as they drafted lots of defense players. Now if and its a big if, the offense is doing what we expect them to do the Patriots have no chance. If the offense performs at 40 percent on POCD there defense wont be able to stop us.
Now Brady one of the elite QBs playing the game is on his game he will be tough to contend with. He has his own weapons and he is a savey as they come. Welker and the tight ends regardless of who is covering them will prove to be a challenge for the best defenders, and we got the best.
Going to be a good game as it stands now, but like I say its a long ways into the season and injuries can dictate what happens. But as teams stand currently we win this game our 15th in a row. Yuppers go Niners
Actually injuries did cost us a trip to the SB
Grant. Lloyd is no CJ, but he is much faster and shiftier on cuts. Lloyd gets open more often than not. And with Brady throwing he might not have to be. He is very athletic and gets his hands on the ball. He will be a very tough cover.
And who says we dont have a good o-line and Pro bowl QB? By week 15 they will have already been lighting up the league. Ranked in the top 7 Grant. Watch and see!
I agree 100% that its going to take the front to pressure Brady. Thats how the Giants beat them twice. Front four pressure.
as long as you get heat on brady and belichick not allower to cheat it will be 28-10 niners
The niners are well stocked. I see Brady being pressured for an entire 60 minutes. That will be the difference in this game.
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You’re telling me the young Niners and the delicate Alex Smith will go into Foxboro in December and come out of that snow covered game with a win. No way. I’m takin’ my Pats. This game has been circled on my calendar since the schedule was released. Should be a good one but I just don’t see Harbaugh’s team traveling across the country to play Brady and Belichick and getting the W.
Igor – Delicate Alex Smith? When did Alex come off the field last year in 18 games? He took some big hits and stayed in there.
I’m not the biggest AS fan but delicate is the wrong word.
Hey……. Nobody talks bad about our QB except us 49er fans. Rule #1 on here. And one more thing. The Alex Smith you’ve watched before will NOT be the same Smith this year. Watch him shred your “defense” See you in the Superbowl
MD
Way to go, you give em s**t.
Igor
Niners were 4-1 on the East Coast in 2011.
Anybody. Anytime. Anywhere.
If the Giants gave you bad dreams, we will give you nightmares!
Of all the teams the 49ers play in 2012, I believe this one will have a special value.
The 49ers will go into this game (IMO) knowing that this was the team they should have faced in the Superbowl.
Beating the Pats in the 2011 SB would have catapulted the 49ers back to ‘elite’ status. But the team let it (literally) slip through their hands against the Giants. This game for the 49ers will be a few games and a new season later, but I expect them to use the Pats as a stepping-stone to elite territory.
49ers 31 – 17!
Here’s a feel good story about JH. Well done coach:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Milestone-reached-in-Harbaughs-enriching?blockID=717904&feedID=5936
Yeah, I read that. Makes me wonder why some beat writers are so determined to paint the coach as a ninny or worse. More a reflection on the writer than on Harbaugh…
Now this is the kind of story the media needs to report. Bet it doesnt go national.
Has Jenkins sign his contract yet? I havnt heard that he has.
undercenter – I don’t think Jenkins has signed yet. I thougt he was expected to sign a 4 year deal?
Thanks Crabs.
Ninermd says:
June 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm
“Hey……. Nobody talks bad about our QB except us 49er fans. Rule #1 on here. And one more thing. The Alex Smith you’ve watched before will NOT be the same Smith this year. Watch him shred your “defense” See you in the Superbowl”
Love the rule MD! AS is our QB and we need him to get us SB ring #6! And like you, I sense that there will be little to critique in AS’ game this year. Hofe said it best; “All Arrows Up!”
Yes sir. Just read a column on him and his mechanics. Which Ive begged for SY to come in and help him out with. Thats always been an issue for Smith. They showed some pics of his throwing motion before and now in Camp. Huge difference in the legs. I hope now he got some help with the field vision and pocket awareness. The other problem he’s had. If he stands in there and is relaxed like “Brady” is. He will most def crack the top 7 ranking. He’s gonna light it up this year. I can see, feel and smell it.
I love your fire Md. However, this dude is gonna be trying too hard and press like he’s done on years past. When he does, he’s gonna muck it up and I just hope JH is ready to pull the trigger on this joke of a QB. I know you believe and I’m not mad at you. Just can’t see this dude lighting anything up. We shall see.
I think he’s gonna shock you this season Jman. Putting aside his past for a minute, I think Harbaugh brought him in as a rookie last season and helped him improve his game. In a HUUUUGE way. With the new weapons and more confidence than ever. I cant see how he can blow this season, as far as him failing. I dont think Harbaugh will hesitate for a second to sit him. Bringing in JJ says a lot about what Harbaugh wants. In the past I could see failure coming from a mile away, Smith is a qb that needed Harbaugh and the babysitting. I never wanted a qb that you had to give the world to to succeed, but the FO built it this way so were gonna have to roll with it. If its working, Im all for it. It all starts from the top, and we finally have the ownership/GM/Coaching that builds dynasty’s again. If Smith doesnt improve this season they will find someone who will. Iys going to be a magical season for #11.
Yup, yup!
Ninermd is a LIAR…he secretly wants Alex to fail….just wait for the 1st preseason game and you will hear him nitpicking every play
This is a clown dat has been knockin Alex since day 1 and know he found jesus….he hates Alex
I call b.s …….if JH is a liar then MD is a bigger FAT
Liar
His credibility took a hit on the previous page now he is trying to be positive about the team
Clown Please!!!! Hater 4 life
Dude has anger issues
One Colt,
Do you see Alex Smiths career blowing up? of course you do. He’s an all pro in your eyes. Take those rose colored glasses off before you run into a wall somewhere. Alex Smith has been horrible before last year. Last year he was bearable. He didnt lose any games with turnovers. he helped lose them with his lackluster and conservative play.
Can’t wait until the 1st preseason game. We’ll get a chance to find out where we stand on offense. Since Smith is our biggest question mark, we need to see if there is really any difference. The pros say the tape doesn’t lie.
Smith is a question, but he isn’t the biggest question 23. That belongs to the RG position.
*now
“In the past I could see failure coming from a mile away, Smith is a qb that needed Harbaugh and the babysitting” ……key words “in the past he has always seen failure”…. Just confirmed his HATER status……LIAR LIAR pants on FIRE…lol
Ninermd you are no 49er fan. U just a loser who needs da niners so u can have a social life….
#stopcohn
get a life.
#stopidiots. Matches you perfectly TB.
TB – leave your not wanted here.
I bet that TB is Trent Baalke. He’s no Cohn fan, lol! jk
I think the Niners could win a shootout against the Patriots with the shiny new toys they now have on offense. I think it will be an epic game that’ll give the Niners another W during the season.
35-28. And it won’t be as close as the final score claims it to be.
md
I didn’t mention MC. You’re seeing things that aren’t there. Maybe you’ve been watching too much of that scary show of yours, you’re sensing stuff that ain’t there, and reacting to nothing.
Well, anything negative with MC.
And I said starting KR, we win. No need to throw anybody.
midwest
If there is a shoot-out with anybody by week 15, I’m a little more than slightly worried about our D.
These are the kind of teams/games we have in the playoffs. I want to send a message.
We beat up Mr. AR in week 1. We beat up Mr. Brady in week 15, now what makes you (playoff opponent) think you are anything more significant than a single ant on an ant-hill in Africa to us? Whatever you were before us, you won’t be after playing us. You are an empty shell, easily cracked and destroyed.
This is an empire we are building. Not a flash in the pan. The empire is rising.
+1 DS! Well put.
Gotta disagree ds. The playoffs are a whole different ball game. NYG ring a bell? Although our 9ers are built for the playoffs. Im hoping we at least split the tough road games we have this year.
md
Then you can give me your playoff tickets. I’ll let the opponent know just how I feel about them.
We dominate that Title game if we have WR’s who weren’t on another teams practice squad earlier that year. We dominate that Title game if DG doesn’t bust up our best defender not named JS/PW that day and prevent 2 Int’s. We dominate that game if as MC said “Need to do better on 1st/2nd down.” We dominate if our starting KR is there.
And if we did all of those things, that Giants team would be an ant on an ant-hill in Africa. Meaningless. Decimated. VD said it as well. “We just didn’t finish.” The Pats lok at that game tape all they want. Spygate us all you want. Because their team plane won’t be carrying many players come the Super Bowl. They’d be hiding under their beds holding onto teir dollies sucking their thumbs with watery eyes.
Year 2 and all this speed, by week 15, defenses will have nothing to do but suicide blitz (NFL BLITZ style) because how are you going to defend us now?
TB will get sudden back spasms just prior to kickoff. If he plays that game, he isn’t going to look good enough afterwards to keep that model wife of his happily satisfied for a long time. All without a bounty.
Come on md. Where is all of your “Niner elite D” talk? This is where it matters. Where is your “AS will be Pro-Bowler” talk?
Ds… I see you want to throw MC under the bus, but where is Smiths name and KW AAAND Harbaughs names? I believe we will kick some booty, my point was reg doesnt mean anything when it comes playoff time. NYG went on the road and avenged two losses earlier in the year. Thats where I disagreed. Take it easy. We still have 96 days until kickoff. Pace yourself. lol
I disagree DS. If the Niners are in a shootout, it won’t be a knock on the D at all. It just means that they went up against a tough opponent is all. Both the O and D need to support each other when one falters. That’s the mark of a true team.
The 49ers magical season last year has worn off on the Oakland A’s. I believe. Green collar Baseball? hmmm Our special teams song Tony Montana? Hmmmm. Just wished the success would have followed. Worst owners in the Bay.
MD, you had me all fired up with all your positive vibe, then you had to mention the A’s (lol).
I’ve been a Giant’s fan since I was a little kid. Grew up watching Willie Mayes, Willie McCovey, Jimmy Raye Hart, Kevin Mitchell, Jack & Will Clark, Barry Bonds, all the way through the present.
I did like several A’s during their glory years. Reggie Jackson, Rick Monday, Joe Rudi, Campy Campaneris, Vida Blue, Jim ‘Catfish’ Hunter, Captain Sal Bando. But C.Finley never put out the cash to keep these players. Sad indeed.
Al Davis certainly didn’t help the team (A’s) when he talked the city into modifying the Coliseum to accomodate his raiders. I figured a team that brought so much good and recognition to Oakland deserved much better.
But I digress (a lot) lol!
Tom Haller, Ed Bailey, Chuck Hiller, Jose Pagan, Felipe Alou, Orlando Cepeda, Harvy Kuenn, Stu Miller, Marichal. Davenport, Alvin Dark and on and on and on.
Also, Manny, and Jesus’ Alou, who may still have the record for being the only brothers to play in the same outfield at one time.
“Undercenter” Great ‘flashback,’ and great times listening to my 9volt battery Transistor Radio!
Great times and yes the 9v transitor. Also dont forget Charlie O, the mule, John Blue Moon Adom
..and The Designated Runner. LOL
Well AES………..I have two things to say. I hate Kirk Gibson more than Brett Favre, and 1989. Buahahahahahaaaa Im a Bash Brothers Kid. But loved the old timers in Oakland. I still have a cheezy Bash Brothers hat in the man cave and, Had over 70 Reggie Jackson cards at once that were ruined in a flood. =-( Cherished the hell out of those cards.
Oh the K.Gibson homerun was painful, but stuff of champions. One of my favorite A’s moment was Reggie Jackson’s mamoth homerun in the All-Star game in Detroit. Wow, I never seen a ball hit that far in my life!
AES – What about Bonds HR in World Series in Anaheim?
Rick Henderson & the Bash Bros!
Hey Maui,
Are you actually in Maui? Beautiful there!
Me and the wife are heading out there next weekend for a couple of weeks.
Ka’anapoli here we come! Love the culture, the people and the food! “Old Lahaina Luau” and “Kimo’s” is always a must on our list.
One of my favorite Maui memories is getting up at 7am to watch my 49ers beat a young Payton Manning and the Colts. That was the game in which then coach Jim Mora Sr. had his “playoffs?” rant, classic game, and classic time in Maui.
I would love 2 whip the Pats but hopefully when we get to them it won’t be a most win because we will have had the west wrapped up since prior to the trade deadline.
It could determine whether the Niners will get a first round bye.
Agreed, est. If the Niners have a three or four game lead in the division, playoff seeding locked, all a possibility by week 15, this could be a less than epic match-up.
Hope not Ribico. I want to see our starters pummel into submission their starters.
@midwest
That is what I said above. But that does not happen if the game is a shoot-out. How do you pummel into submission if there is a shoot-out?
By racking up yards on offense and pounding them on defense. Just because it is a shootout doesn’t mean that the Niners can’t own the Patriots in the process. The same applies with a low-scoring game.
Along with Alex Smiith being the weakest link on the chain. Greg Roman is the weakest coach,he has great game plans and then he checks out. If he got the Penn State job,not the end of the world. He needs to have great offensive playbook with the new weapons also.
He has those weapons now Neal. You also need to remember that they were using a scaled down version of the playbook due to the lockout. Let’s see what happens this season. I believe the Niners will be holding their sixth Lombardi trophy come the conclusion of the Super Bowl.
Also, RG was the weakest link. Snyder was serviceable, but he wasn’t the answer. And don’t get me started on Rachal. I think that it will become a stout position if Boone wins it in training camp.
While I did find myself scratching my head at some play calls, I’m in no way ready to start calling out Roman. He’ll have better familiarity with the players and they with him and his system. They’ll have a full off-season to work together and integrate the new players. I’m expecting improvement, but there may be some hiccups early and in pre-season with the OL. I hope some team blitzes the bejeezus out of us in pre-season as a test and wake-up call to the offense; they all have to be on the same page (OL & QB & WR/TEs) to beat the blitz.
GR had the same issues as AS in 2011. There wasn’t any offseason, the talent needed to be upgraded, and the team was built by the previous regimes to run. Now with upgrades on offense through FA and the draft, GR can use schemes built on matchups in addition to his base offense. Let’s give him another (full) year before criticizing his playcalling and calling him out.
Neal,
You have to remember that Roman is limited as to what he can do with this offense and QB. He knows Alex Smith can’t make all the throws effectively. He struggles in tight windows. Roman had to play it safe this year with the offense being new and with Smith nit having the strongest and most accurate arm. Roman elected to err on the side of caution much like Smith did , taking all those sacks.
Neal,
Blaming Roman for the lack of consistent offense is understandable, but remember the players need to execute the calls.
First series in Baltimore is a perfect example. Great play call, receiver wide open, QB doesn’t pull the trigger and checks down instead. Later, great play call QB hits Ginn for a TD, but Rachal gets a penalty.
All good points, I just remember the Saints game in pecicular where we had a good first quarter, and then what the hell happenened in the second and third quarter, nothing at all, the game was actually a bore, until Alex one hit wonder Smith had his 15 minutes of good fame instead of being a bust fame with the two drives.
Neal, The defense and special teams had a great 1st quarter against NO. With the exception of the Davis TD the rest of it was set up for the offense.
You do have to give them credit for at least getting 1 of the TO’s in for a touchdown and making the big plays at the end. Everything in between was the same putrid mess they called an offense last year.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=320114025&period=0
Neal, Jack,
Funny how we mistake that for a great game from Smith. Try watching that game from start to finish. You’ll fall asleep in the middle. Every game this year was like that. It’s a great thimg we have an amazing defense and special teams. Guys keep saying the offense is going to be better. That’s not hard to do,considering we were at the bottom of football in a couple of categories.
That’s sad if you fell asleep during the middle part of that game. You missed some great defense from the Niners.
Neal, I’m hopeing to see improvement at every position, coaching, and FO.
Let’s at least start the season with a positive attitude which for some of us, may be a huge improvement.
If Alex can be 3 times as good as he was last year he might be considered good without a curve grade.
Neal,
My take is that with an average AS last year we were a couple of mistakes from going to the SB.
The table is set for AS to have better numbers this season.
1. Better familiarity with the offense
2. Better technique than last season
3. Better WR’ than last season
Just to name a few.
I’m not the biggest of AS fan, but he contributed to a 14-4 record last season and helped to put us back in football relevence and respectability.
It would be sheer foolishness on my part to write off a team with arguably the best Defense/Special Teams in football. I firmly and positively believe AS will come out (especially after the PM debacle) with a new fire and killer instinct.
I’ve adopted Hofe’ ‘war cry’ for 2012; “All Arrows Up!”
AES*,
Those are all great things, and they better turn into reality during the season. It is very unlikely that Smith and the offense will be assisted by 38 TO’s, and a +28 for a second year in a row.
If Smith is three times as good for this season over what he was last season, then he will be the MVP. I like the reports coming from OTAs that Smith is throwing more crisp and accurate passes. Have faith Neal.
AES*, you want positivity? I am positive that Alex Smith and the offense need to improve and not ride on the coat tails of the defense and special teams if they are to duplicate last years success in 2012.
Well said Jack.
If David Akers has another year like he did last year we will have accomplished nothing.
AES,
Alex= Killer instinct???
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
What makes you think he won’t develop that this season 23?
23J,
Are you dismissing a 14-4 record in 2011?
Was AS lights out? Of course not!
But in this offense he doesn’t need to be to succeed.
I’m not the biggest AS fan as I said earlier, but I do feel he can get us to the SB.
I’m going into this season with an open mind. I respect your feelings on AS, but that’ not me 23J.
“All Arrows Up!”
+1 AES.
23j=honorer of bets
Buwhahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are we really talking week 15? Pump the brakes a little. A lot can happen between now and then so this is all fantasy football. I like the positive vibe though. This definitely the first time since the Steve Young days where there is an expectation to dominate.
Ia am a bit concerned with this match up because as good as our D is, its better geared toward stoping the run than the pass. When we played dominant passing teams our secondary strugled quite a bit (dal wasnt that dominant but we had our issues, Phi we won but gave up a ton of yards to vick, Saints 465 yards passing to brees) the Pats dont ever run the ball even when common sense calls for it. They use their screen game and the short passes to welker as the extension of the run game. That being said welker is the key to beating them. When the Jets bracketed him they were able to bog down that O. P Will and BO can handle the big TE’s and our CB’s should be able to stay with their WR who are underwhelming.
On O if we attack the outside LB with screens and runs to the outside as well as VD down the seam we should exploit their slow outside backers like ninkovich who is more of a pass rusher. I dont think we will be able to run up the middle wilfork mayo and spikes are stout but the edges are there for the taking. Also the pats lost 20+ sacks with anderson leaving and old friend andre carter out with a torn quad so their pass rush should suffer considerably
I still think we will win but it will have to be on the O to exploit the matchups. should be a game in the mid 20s
For what its worth, Pundits around here (which ussualy predict a 14-2 season) are worried about the 9ers and many have the pats loosing so there is definitley respect being paid
Dude, if our pass D were equal to our run D, teams would get less than 100 yards in a game, and all the offense has to do is get 3 points and we are 19-0!
Look at all those spelling mistakes. That definitely reflects on the value of the content. (I’m joking)
:)
Dude, if our offense were equal to our defense and special teams, this team would go 19-0!
OMG just saw all my spelling mistakes please dont take that as a reflection on the value of the content
…it was an interesting week, some fans calling JH a liar, so I decided to go back in the archives to see how consistent some of these people are in their comments……..this was fun!!!!!!
Papa Stan says:
January 11, 2011 at 4:55 pm
What happens if JH likes Alex, then what? Fire JH!!
bayareafanatic says:
January 11, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Then we trust JH. Except one thing, JH defined what he looked for in a QB and Alex is not it. Two of the main things he looked for was instinct ( Alex doesn’t have it ) and leadership ( been over this already, Alex doesn’t have it ) If Harbaugh picked him though I’d be VERY surprised but I would back it till I saw bad results.
49erGirl says:
January 11, 2011 at 5:01 pm
No doubt JH will like Alex…he’s a likeable guy. No need to fire anyone.
Unless something really screwy happens with the CBA, Alex Smith will not be here next year. It’s a mutual decision – Alex wants to leave and the Niners organization doesn’t want him back.
TIM says:
January 11, 2011 at 7:28 pm
We all “like” Alex,but he can’t play football. And besides,he is not a Forty Niner any more,so get over it.
……..lol
Houston was whining about how JH was a liar – so he used Adam Schefter as a reliable source to defend his point of view………enjoy!!!!
Houston 9er says:
January 3, 2011 at 9:04 am
Normally I would agree with you. Hiring the hot college coach is a very risky move since college and the NFL is so different. However, in this case I think it’s a great move for the 9ers. Harbaugh is the real deal.
Houston 9er says:
January 10, 2011 at 1:35 pm
This is why I really don’t like Adam Schefter or any of those other morons who throw this crap on the wall to see if it sticks. Since when does a journalist decide how much a player is worth in a trade. Did someone from the Eagles organization say they would start the trade discussion with 2 #1′s or is he pulling that number out of his backside.
If the entire Harbaugh situation taught us anything, it’s that these professional guessers can be idiots. Two number 1′s for a guy who has started 7 games seems a little ridiculous. The best comparison I can come up with is when the Texans made the trade to acquire Matt Schaub from the Falcons. In that trade the teams swapped 1st round picks (8 & 10), the Falcons got 2 #2 picks. Still a steep price but nowhere near giving up 2 #1′s for an unproven player.
…..lol
one guy that was always consistently wrong about everything was msclemons………..
msclemons says:
January 4, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Apparently York’s interviews were just a sham and he has decided that Buddy Baalke is the man to lead the 49ers back to mediocrity. That’s just wonderful – maybe he can give all the season ticket holders a good mooning to improve their morale while he’s at it.
Baalke is a good guy. He’s worked his way up the ranks as a scout for the Redskins (ok, maybe that’s a bad item on the resume), the Jets and the 49ers. He did a good job in last year’s draft of trading up to grab a player no one else was targeting at that spot. He’s been with the 49ers since 2005 and has apparently impressed young York with his ability to be a part of the problem.
I’d like to repeat that last bit. [b]Baalke was part of the problem.[/b] How do you start turning around a dysfunctional organization by promoting one of the insane asylum inmates to a leadership position? You freaking don’t. You bring in an experienced outsider who can look at the organization with a fresh eye and make the necessary changes without the burden of existing loyalties or emotional ties. Jed York just told me and every other 49er fan that we can expect another 5 years of complete suckitude. Thanks Jed.
Papa Stan is a GENIUS!
Aww, oneplayer – you still can’t understand why people don’t appreciate the Precious. You were so close to being onedolphin. If only Ross had made Alex a decent offer. Unfortunately no one else in the NFL wanted Alex so we’ve got him for another year. He’s like herpes – he never goes away.
I was 100% wrong about Baalke though. I didn’t think anyone from the 49ers organization had a clue after the Nolan/Singletary years. Can you blame me?
Six years of bumbling management, losing records, draft picks like Coffee, Balmer, Smith, Rachal – who would have trusted anyone from that management team?
…i respect that you own up to being 100% wrong……
Six years of bumbling management, losing records, draft picks like Coffee, Balmer, Smith, Rachal – who would have trusted anyone from that management team? = a true fan
I guess in your mind a “true fan” is a blind follower. Someone who has faith without proof.
I’m a “show me” fan. Prove you can do it and then I’ll support you. Baalke and Harbaugh have shown it; they have my support. Fangio and the defense have shown it, they have my support.
Nothing funnier than seeing this “fans” take their foot out of their big mouths!
Nice work one, go Niners!
Lots of convo between Hoferfan and Bay……DS you are 100% accurate, Hoferfan does need Bay and Jordan Welcher to function on the blog……he can’t do without them….
Hoferfan has been consistent with good points and his predictions are reasonably close…..
bayareafanatic says:
January 2, 2011 at 4:38 pm
My guess is that Alex will end up as a backup in San Diego or as a potential starter in Arizona.
bayareafanatic says:
January 2, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I think coaching was 75% responsible for this year. Not having the team prepared and Singletary putting the training wheels on the offense. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to go forwards. This year was necessary to dissolve ourselves of Singletary for sure. Now I am wondering if Jed is holding back naming Baalke because he knows Harbaugh is reluctant to work with him.
bayareafanatic says:
January 4, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Realfan pass the joint when you are done with it. Did you just say that Alex is better than Orton? Wow.
bayareafanatic says:
January 7, 2011 at 11:50 am
And our QB of the future is the starting QB @ Washington. A little unknown named MONTANA.
bayareafanatic says:
January 7, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Dude Alex is done and gone. Not a good environment for him here. Too much baggage. Lets move forward. I will tell you what most everyone here is thinking but afraid to say. Very unpopular opinion with the Alex thing. Been there done that. Lets move forward. If Harbaugh sees ANY value in bringing in Alex he will do it. Alex is smart enough to know that he is playing elsewhere as a backup somewhere next year.
bayareafanatic says: January 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm Whoops forgot that my first choice for an aging vet is McNabb. A lot of if’s surrounding this pick. If he comes into camp in shape and in the right mind set, he is for sure the most dangerous QB out there with a firm understanding of the WCO.
bayareafanatic says:
January 10, 2011 at 3:45 pm
You act like the majority of the fans would want Alex back except for “a few” of the fans as you put it. The majority of fans do not want Alex back. Was he dealt a raw deal? Yeah he was. His poor play and knack for turning it over and constant check downs did him in as well. At least the Niners are smart enough to know that even a hint of bringing Alex back would kill ticket sales. And since the entire stadium boos at every incompletion, it’s not fair to Alex either. Let Harbaugh do his thing. He’ll get us a QB.
Hoferfan67 says:
January 4, 2011 at 11:25 am
I know the bigger guys are starting to take off as QB’s but I’m from the old school that likes quick feet and not taller than 6’4″. I’m not high on Newton or the kid from Vegas.
Hoferfan67 says:
January 2, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Harbaugh only works if he calls the shots and Baalke is his guy. I’m pulling for Jed to pull this off but Elway could be a thorn in the 9ers side. If Jed has to choose, does he take Baalke or Harbaugh?
Hoferfan67 says:
January 4, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Surprise…Surprise – Baalke named GM – now they hire Billick as HC. We sill see how this plays out.
Hoferfan67 says:
January 5, 2011 at 9:48 am
McNabb is as much as done. Steve Young said on his show last week if McNabb can’t hang with QB friendly Shanahan, then something is wrong with him. I’m also hearing that Kolb may stay in Philly. The style of QB that Vick plays has him sitting hurt more than a few games a year so Philly knows they need Kolb. Plus, they know there are teams that would get into a bidding war and would give up a 1st round pick. Kolb is not the long term answer – did anyone see how well he played last week – not good!
…the funniest and best of course goes to the blog clown = ninermd…….strangely ninermd you disappeared from the blog during the HC search where most were giving their opinions but finally you decided to comment after JH was hired……..
but what I have below is proof of what I always thought about you……you have been a hater since day 1 and you will forever be a 49er hater….
ninermd says:
January 7, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Oh and Cheers to Jed for pulling this one out, got lucky, but Im not complaining. Sometimes luck is needed. Now stay behind the scenes and open your wallet Jed. This is the first time in a long time I am excited to be a 9er fan. NO MORE ALEX, NO MORE DEFENSIVE MINDED RAVENS HAND ME DOWNS, AND NO MORE RUNNING UP THE MIDDLE 30 TIMES A GAME. =-)
ninermd says:
January 7, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Anybody thats mobile with precise accuaracy. Ive seen Orton shred teams. Wouldnt bother me to much. The only thing that could rain on my parade would be the words “The San Fransico 49ers and Alex Smth have agreed on a five year deal”. ;-( Makes me cringe thinking about it. But there is still some other holes to fill. The O-line needs some help, and we really really need a Pass Rusher.
ninermd says:
January 11, 2011 at 6:19 pm
That sucks.. well as long as Alex go’s with him Im good. And yes I will throw a Good bye Alex Smth party when I here the news. =-) Im thinking Johnson from Tampa is going to be our next QB. Cant get “Luck”y so why not his first project? Whoever it is, Ill be pulling for him all the way.
….ha ha ha…..checkmate dude….lmao….
oneniner
You know, didn’t the haters use Orton as an example of a QB they don’t like/want durig the season? I don’t remember anybody referencing Orton in a + light and what we need in our next QB when AS started winning games (starting with Philly game). They used Orton as an example of what they don’t want.
Very interesting indeed.
My goodness that is pathetic. You took all that time to dig up old posts? And for what purpose? Those posts don’t prove any point other than you are a straight up lunatic. Seek help.
Lmao…. And this was prior to harbaugh and the niners keeping smith. There is no secret that I didn’t like smith before last season. So what’s your point? Nice try onelame.
……you both sound hurt tho…..did i hurt your feelings?…….
to quote Prime …”you haters who come on here and say I’m just stating my opinion, well keep in mind you can still look like a horses arse if you don’t put some thoughtful football thinking behind your ignorant thinking, as we have just witnessed”
houston
Of all of them, you look the worse for wear. Your claims that we should trust the reporter now over JH is quite contradictory.
Then your reply here proves that you just want to hate on somebody. Anybody. You need to take hold of what you said before and reason it out now. How did Adam Schefter suck when his opinion was different from yours and how did his opinion become one more trustworthy than JH’s now that you disagree with him?
Won’t answer. I know.
…lol…..@DS..
..houston read this comment around 4:09 pm…….he fought hard within himself not to respond…….after a while he couldn’t take it any longer……he decided to respond at 4.55am……with “Those posts don’t prove any point”…….lol
LOL Onelame you have 3 of the same followers. Hurt feelings? Naaa You stated the obvious. Again its NO secret I wasnt a Smith fan. Ive admitted that before. So your archives post says nothing, I think Ill take 3 minutes out of my day and look up some of your old posts. I have a funny feeling when the Smith was gone/were signing Manning days. It will be very easy to find your 8 posts for that month. Better yet I should go back and find the positive things you had to say about our FO when Smith could have been gone. Lets see if your a 49r fan or just a Smith backer, because NOOOO 49er would dare question the FO over one player. See ya in a bit Sucker. TBC……….
Ninermd says: May 30, 2012 at 7:36 pm
Ummm after 8 years……xxxxx……..I know Ill be right every year I predicted Smiths season by season……
You already confirmed to all that you are a HATER, and you say its cuz Alex has sucked so badly and they must not re-sign him ever.
Look at the season stats and back up your claim.
http://stats.csnbayarea.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=7177&team=25
@oneniner:
Wow. Nice job of research. I hope you didn’t spend too much time on the project.
Now you know why certain commenters always complain about “cutting and pasting.” They don’t like having to take ownership of things they wrote, particularly the stupid and/or ignorant things. They’d like to pretend that those words are gone forever, but the damned archives preserve everything.
Hey Claude what grade do I get for my copy and paste project? I know it was a simple task but I feel my theory of onelame dogging every coach, GM, and qb proved he is a smith fan only. And that tiny mind believes that if you ONLY cheer the qb Mr Smith, that you are a “real” 49er fan. Since your the professor of copy and paste I was wondering what grade I get. Here’s a nice shiny apple for you too. :-)
md
I don’t even have to go back into the archives to
find anything. Oneniner described it quite well agreeing with my statement about HC’s MN/MS. If you bothered to read the blog some, you’d see why get the treatment you get from others. For your convenience, I copied and pasted(oh my gosh!) the little conversation for you here:
DS94everXev says:
June 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm
AES
Had MN/MS done that with any player (including MC) my reaction remains the same. Dump the jerk.
Remember, a good part of my dislike for MC stems from him publicly saying what he has. HC/player, they all must do the same. Leave personal issues/bad-mouthing one another behind closed doors, preferably never said to begin with.
MS/MN didn’t do that. I liked them both before they said that. Same with MC.
Reply
oneniner says:
June 3, 2012 at 3:09 pm
…I agree….
oneniner says:
June 3, 2012 at 3:16 pm
I was a big supporter of Nolan…..because I always thought he had a good strategy and good mind……..but when he started looking out for his job instead of staying strong and focusing on the team…..I lost faith in him….
Singletary was cool also at first…..but he was way over dramatic after the losses……most of the blame was on the players…….and his counter reaction to challenges made me lose respect for the guy…..I believe he did bench the best QB on the team to prove a point I have no idea was proven…
….Thank God for the archives…..
…..ninermd is still running around screaming jibberish like a mad man…….
If I was a reporter and Jim Harbaugh gave me that Bull Crap company line, about Peyton Manning. I would of loved to have asked him, can we take a polygraph test, he would of squirmed and got defensive because we had challenged the GREAT OZ,
That would have been awesome Neal. I was surprised that none of the reporters onsite didn’t really try to take him to task. I think they were do stunned by him bringing up the subject that they couldn’t get their questions together fast enough.
In that way, it was a brilliant strategic move by a very good strategic football coach.
Neal – Even O.J. once said he would take a polygraph test on pay-per-view TV to prove his innocence. Lol….Turns out Orenthal failed a secret polygraph test just two days after he butchered Nicole & Ron Goldman.
I remember Jim Rome saying: “O.J. has a seat waiting for him at the 50 yard line of hell.”
Please tell me where Harbaugh squirmed when the media called him on something. Harbaugh believes everything he says so he would probably pass that polygraph. And Neal, it’s a lot better than hearing “Hindsight is 20/20″.
MidWest,
“It’s not lying, if you believe it” …. george costanza
But if a coach doesn’t believe what he says, then how he call himself a coach? Harbaugh has to believe what he says is try, otherwise he’d be a Grade A slimeball.
True, not try.
MidWest,
Have you ever told your wife that she looks good, but in the back of your mind you think, “why not try something else on honey?”
First, I’m single. Second, I’m not one that says something I don’t mean. It may not make me the life of the party, but no one can say that I’m not honest.
Maybe that’s why you’re single then MidWest ; )
And proud of it! :-)
MidWest, Married men everywhere are wishing they were you!
Maybe, but if I meet the right girl, I won’t hesitate to be just like those married men. Single or married, I’ll still be proud.
@ Midwest,
Remember a radio show asked him what do you think of the tradional coaches hand shaking after the game same week after the Detroit game, about 10 seconds of silence and then he says I would rather not answer that question. That is squirming.
Not necessarily. He could have paused for ten seconds to wonder to himself how long he would have to deal with that subject. Everybody has one time where they do something similar.
A similar post was on csnbayarea…….decided to modify for this site…..
A new website has been setup specifically for ‘Alex Haters’
Membership is limited so apply now
Qualifications are:
IQ between 65 and 80
Must be afflicted with short term memory loss
Applicants may apply at Jordan.Welcher@ADD.com or
Send applications to :
Ninermd
c/o Vacaville Psychiatric Progam
Vacaville, CA 95656
All applications must be signed (or make your X)…..
and where does the Kool Aid gang of Alex lovers go?
One Hit wonder
11 Kool Aid lane,
Cult, Ca, 999999
Neal you little child, your worse than 23j in being original. Then again your probably the same poster, that’s the classic hater reason for everything, double poster, weak as pi……….
Prime I hate Gays Time,
I have a life, and I don’t need to be a double poster and do you think I give a pimple on a pigs ass what you think of my posts,I have stopped reading your’s a long time ago. Did you give Alex a big kiss on the lips at his cult party last night. I actually feel sorry for you son and sorry that Bay Area hurt your feelings about your Mommy. LMAO
Neal if Mom insults are allowed I just need to know. I like to fight with honor, you and the used car salesman know nothing about code. Your a little child so I’ll give you a pass today.
You may have a life, but you sure as hell dont have a brain.
Prime.
Your such a sensitive boy with such high honor’s it is ok to bash gays but not your Mommy little boy. You can bring it on any way you want because to get upset over this little blog is certainly not using your brain, that is ofcourse if you have one. LOL again.
One, I can’t stop laughing! They are all over Claude for his his cut and paste but this was priceless. Where you at lamearea fanatic, I can’t wait to hear what you have I say, oh but wait, you’ll just vanish and turtle like you always do!
Alex back would kill ticket sales. And since the entire stadium boos at every incompletion, it’s not fair to Alex either.
Hahahahahahha!!!!!!!!
…lol…..
‘oneniner’
Wow, seems like you like you put in a lot time with your new found hobby (copy n paste) just to entertain one person; ‘primetime’ (lol).
It’s a beautiful day ‘oneniner’ go out and enjoy, instead of trying to circumvent other posters.
He did put in a lot of time and its about time some people who call themselves fans get a little “in your face”. How many times can these fans doubt and critisize the organization and call themselves real fans. Real fans dont doubt, hate, or predict failure.
…Amen….
Thanks for defining the “real fan” for all of us Chico.
Soooo, latin.
Can you and your buddies ‘prime’ and ‘oneniner’ honestly and sincerely swear that you never ‘bagged on’ the Org a few years ago when we had the likes of Nolan and Singletary?
C’mon latin, none of us are ‘choirboys/girls around here (lol).
Latin,
I’m no fanatic, I’m a realist. I cant put my head in JH azz or AS azz. I like using my own mind when it comes to opinions. I don’t like them spoon fed to me. be careful putting your head in there. It’s gotta be pretty crowded in there with prime, oneJaguar, Ribico, DS, I mean BS, FDC, LSX, Hofer, Prime Crabtree, and several others.
Question for you all except Prime Crabtree. How do you all put 1 head up 2 azzes??? Amazing!!!
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
ZZZZZZ…..Huh?! 23 brought something new to the table?! No? Must have been a dream then. ….ZZZZZZZZ….
@AES
I loved Nolan…until he threw AS under the bus. After that, I wanted a new HC.
When MS was hired, I loved it. Then when MS apparently never did find that film room and publically insulted AS, I wanted him gone.
Now we have JH. And there are more complaints about him complimenting his players than there were complaints about MN/MS putting down their players.
You’ve read this blog about as long as I have if not longer. I can’t believe you don’t take note of that and go “What the ****!” This blog was better when the HC’s attacked players than it is now with the HC complimenting them.
Something is inherently wrong with that.
..AES…I am sorry if I left you out…..
….its a known fact that you are the blog-flip flopper…..I couldn’t copy and paste your comments knowing you will counter with a totally opposite comment you made……..it will be like setting myself up……..lol
It goes like this from AES, I like Alex but he’s terrible, I think the 49ers win but Alex has a bad game, Alex was good but not good enough.
It’s easy being the impartial fan but I think what oneneiner did was brilliant. Some people got called out for what they believed and even though it was their opinion, it was wrong.
So some of you haters who come on here and say I’m just stating my opinion, well keep in mind you can still look like a horses arse if you don’t put some thoughtful
football thinking behind your ignorant thinking, as we have just witnessed. Boooyaaakasha!!!!!!
Prime crabtree,
When bay insulted you about your mom, did he hurt all 8 of you? or was it just prime?
OneJaguar,
I’ve decided to ride with you this year on Alex. From now on, I’m an Alex Nut hugger just like you.
I love me some Alex Smith. He is my hero. There is no me without him. Alex will be an all pro this year. He will throw for 5,500 yards and 55 touchdowns. He will be given a new 5 year $155 million deal with a $55 million signing bonus. He will win the next 5 super bowls for us! He will only throw 5 interceptions this year. He will also change his jersey number to #5. Okay, maybe not. But I am now an Alex Lover and SMither . I can’t wait to bash guys like bay, AES, the flip flopper, Neal the basher and Jack the ripper.
You DA man Alex. And you are the greatest caddy in the world!! Alex Elite!! Clutch!!! All Pro!!! The Franchise!!!
So Jordo, should we now refer to you as 11nuthugger?
: )
Thanks for the laugh Jordan,I can’t wait until Alex get’s pulled from a game because he can’t handle the pressure, and they put JJ in and he gets the winning touchdown. No more Alex to knock around SMITHERS
Neal wake up son, Johnson can’t read defenses, this is why he is a career backup. Athleticism gets you a uniform but it doesn’t get you playing time.
JJ admitted this offense now is way more advanced than it was at San Diego. This is the big leagues pal, the smart and athletic survive, the leapers, big arm guys are great for scout team. When you can’t understand the complexity of NFL defenses, your arm can’t help you, you need a brain but what do you know, you don’t know where yours is!
If Harbaugh made AS a horrific QB into a fair QB, he can make JJ from a fair QB to a damn good one son, if you had a brain you should know that but you are too close to your man love Nuts to understand that.
Neal JJ can’t read defenses, he’s never been able to, why do you think TB let him walk for nothing? Cause he just does not have it between the ears, just like you!
Yeah ‘oneiner’ I was really starting to feel left out.
Thank you, sir.
Lol aes. What else does he have to do? He posts up pre 11 season
Posts like it was a secret that I wanted smith gone. The funny thing is he disappeared for awhile and the old sight with mm you can’t find anymore. Those are golden, and those would hurt his feelings if I found those. So for the record…. He posted what everyone knew on here. Very good onelame, but where’s the substance? And where is your point? Wheew. All that work for nothing.
Triple poster alert: PrimeTime/OneAlex/DS
I loved Nolan…until he threw AS under the bus.
How typical of a Smither – an Alex fan first and a 49er fan second.
Please excuse my worse half everybody. He goes off and posts without a single processed thought all too often.
He forgot to mention JH/nick in it as well. So, he is not in-depth at all.
Again. My apologies.
As for his lack of reading skills, he forgot to leave out the rest of the post.
“Now we have JH. And there are more complaints about him complimenting his players than there were complaints about MN/MS putting down their players.”
Typical hater. Wants the coaches to insult the players to show how big strong men with psychological issues relating to their sexuality issues acts. Just hate the players in public. We do. If you don’t, then you suck.
Way to go.
PS I knew one of you jerks would go off on that quote. Not thinking at all about what qualities you want in a HC. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
LMAO Nick. It appears that you have isolated the single variable in all of DS’s hate.
What do Nolan, Sing, and Crabs all have in common? Right or wrong, they have all stated less than glowing things about his precious.
Classic Nickrow,
These LOVERS would take AS all over again instead of Aaron Rodgers if we can bring back the draft. They just love the cult meetings and holding AS nuts as they rally for another season.
Row
It doesnt have to be about AS (even though every single topic eventually boils down to Smithers v Haters)
The coach should never throw his own players under the bus. Whether its to motivate them or to remove the heat from ones self its never a good idea (with the only exception being when Sing called out VD “we want winers” that IMO really turned VD’s career path around towards the positive, and could be the only good thing to come out of the Sing regime)
Nolan called AS soft and Sing called him meek I dont see where any of those statements had any positive efect on anybody.
Harbaugh takes the opposite approach of pumping their tires. (Crab= best hands ever etc.) even when he cut Braylon he didnt have a negative thing to say about him to the media. Blowing people up in the media serves litlle purpuse besides erode the players trust in the HC because they think “if i f up i could be next one to be blown up”
I think its more of a referendum on styles. Pump the tires vs Bash
BOS has it right.
JH never said a bad word about Snyder, Spencer, Chilo. Does not mean he liked them or hated them. They are not on the team now. AS has been, and will be in 2012.
If Alex stinks it up this year and JH benches him, these clowns will turn on JH – mark my words.
Will you go away Nick if he does not stink?
And what happens if AS left, and the team still sucks? How will the hater mind comprehend that? Afterall, you have National blabber-mouth Skip Bayless on your side. AS only has washed up QB JM on his side saying that he couldn’t take watching the offense options (there were none) available to AS before JH arrived.
Well we know who you’ll agree with, and who I’ll agree with.
First of all, the Niners don’t suck. The team carried Alex Smith, not the other way around. JH saved Alex’s carrier. A real fan can see that AS was the weak link on offense last year.
The question for a Smither like you is: will you be around when Alex is gone? Or will you have a mental breakdown and no shrink in the world would take you as a patient. You’ll cause the shrink to go crazy.
Mental Breakdown Nick. It almost vanished that week during the manning pursuit, errr evaluation.
Nick
A commment of your own to share with those who don’t know:
“3 and outs are almost as bad as TO’s.”
And who was actually here last season? You sure weren’t. As you won’t be again when AS wins more games than you thought he would. What did happen to you Nick? You vanished once it became apparent that the Niners led by AS didn’t suck.
A real fan can see that AS was the weak link on offense last year
In a couple of games he was Nick, but if you’re trying to pass this off as being the case the entire season, you’re exaggerating big time.
When you go into the NFL Championship game with a starting WR duo of Michael Crabtree and Kyle Williams, Alex Smith is not the weak link.
rocket
You forgot Swain. Because our other great starting WR Ted Ginn, was injured.
@DS
You must have bad memory, I’ve been here for a while and was here all of last year. Ask your buddy Claude to cut paste some of my past comments :)
By the way, only a Smither like you thinks of 3-and-outs as a good thing.
@Rocket
AS was among the weak links on offense last year
There, I fixed it for you.
Nick
Your lack of basic football knowledge is astounding. I have heard many times “experts” and announcers say something along the lines of “They didn’t do anything stupid and turn the ball over. They will punt and give their defense a good chance to get the ball back to them and get another shot.”
I’ve never heard anything like that following a TO. And, please find me how many games have been won when teams have 6 TO’s vs. having 6 3 and outs. 8 TO’s vs. 8 3 and outs? 10 TO’s vs. 10 3 and outs?
Come back after you make believe your way into thinking you support your team by bashing the leader of it. Oh. But you already do. Forget that.
When did I say turnovers are good? Even for those who haven’t played the game – like yourself – know that forcing the action and risking a TO is not smart. Going 1 for 13 on 3rd downs is also not good.
This is a silly argument and you’re trying to shift focus from your comment regarding why you’re an Alex fan 1st and a Niner fan 2nd.
You make it seem like they are nearly the same. TO’s and 3 and outs.
After last year, it should be readily apparent to you that TO’s are so much worse than 3 and outs that to imply that the two are nearly equally bad is flat out wrong. We had a ton of 3 and outs last year. And won the 2nd most games in the NFL. We had the fewest TO’s in the NFL and we had he 2nd best record in the NFL.
Knowing that, tell me. How are TO’s and 3 and outs nearly equal again?
Matt Maiocco Twitter: @MyBoyOtis where do you see Moss on the WR depth chart? > Probably No. 1 split end with Crabtree No. 1 flanker.
Well, they’d have to beat out Swain & Hastings……….MM’s going out on a limb on this one.
Prime Time says:
June 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm
“It goes like this from AES, I like Alex but he’s terrible, I think the 49ers win but Alex has a bad game, Alex was good but not good enough.”
(lol) ‘prime’
You’re becoming to predictable around here bud. ‘oneniner’ takes a swipe at someone and I could bet the farm that you will piggy-back in no time at all.
Hey, if you want to be ‘oneniner’ YES man, well to each his own. But your predictability is starting to closely resemble a “Jimmy Raye” offensive scheme. C’mon ‘prime’ set yourself free from your ‘oneniner’ obsession son, you can do it.
OABTW, I’ll be here all season to continue to call it like I see it. Tune in anytime you like my friend!
(lol) ‘prime’
You’re becoming to predictable around here bud. ‘oneniner’ takes a swipe at someone and I could bet the farm that you will piggy-back in no time at all.
What do you expect aes. Their golden icon and the only reason they watch our beloved 49ers did the same thing last season with our stout defense and solid ST.
AES if your gonna call it like you see it, then go into politics, journalism and tV, but chances are you do not have the credentials or the intelligence. If you want others to really hear you, stay away for real Niner fans who don’t want to hear your flip flopping opinion in the first place.
23j, now your a realist, a liar and a fortune teller, maybe a career in politcs. BTW, you wanna start with me on the Mom insults, would you appreciate that kind of dialogue?
You haters keep running your mouth, it gives this blog life and an opportunity for us real fans to cut and paste your opinions after their proven dumbfounded later in the year. Nothing better than servin crow to you little folk! Stay tuned.
I don’t like that this game is in New England. I’ve seen Brady play 3 times in the past 4 years. Brady is the biggest cry-baby in the world. The cameras never pick it up but he screams at defenders if they even touch him. He’s constantly complaining to the officials about everything. Unfortunately, Brady gets calls no other qb gets because of his star status but also because of his constant whining. I was a fan of Brady until I saw him play in person. Now I want every team that plays him to put him on the ground on every play. Hopefully, the close calls don’t go against the 9ers at critical times. You can bet Brady will get every call he wants since the game is in Boston. The 9ers will have to overcome the zebra’s and the Pats to win this one.
Yeah, Brady works those Refs A LOT. Maybe it’s Giselle’s “Euro” influence that makes him want to be a Flopper like in Futbol.
Houston – Not to mention, Brady thinks a he’s fashion model too now. He used to have a bowl-head haircut at Michigan and was a dateless 2nd-string loser!
Did you ever see that shirtless photo of Brady at his NFL combine. His chest looked like a wet blanket, feet pointed out like a duck and that lifeless pasty-white zombie appearance. He could have starred in any Twighlight Saga movie.
Now look at this dude, winning Super Bowls, MVP’s, dating hot chicks, bathing and getting professional haircuts! My how things change.
Prime Time says:
June 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm
“AES if your gonna call it like you see it, then go into politics, journalism and tV, but chances are you do not have the credentials or the intelligence. If you want others to really hear you, stay away for real Niner fans who don’t want to hear your flip flopping opinion in the first place.”
Hahaha, the irony in all this ‘prime’ is that while you state that no one wants to hear my ‘takes’ you seem to faithfully follow me more then others. Go figure?
If I had faithful fans like you and ‘oneniner’ I could start my own ‘pay per hit’ blog and you two would make me a millionaire.
Intellegience? I guess being ‘oneniner’ wing-man puts you in Einstein rare air. Give it a break already “Jimmy Raye”
Follow you? Don’t fladder yourself. I can’t speak for oneniner but I will say that your flip flopping fan hood approach is so easy, you can always say I hope so but really I don’t think so. To me that’s a chickens (anatomy part) to being a fan.
If they win your all happy but if they lose, your all over Alex. Which is it, believer, or wait and see, if it’s wait and see, have fun enjoying the games.
Blind faith and absolute positivity, theres no better way to enjoy the game!
**flatter**
Thanks for the spell check Jack , now go cut and paste a link from Maiocco or Espn.
That would be copy and paste PrimeKvetch. It is amazing how someone with one functional lobe can even type.
Cut and paste works too kvetch, now go get your shine box!
Hey Prime I hate Gays time,
The little yell0w bus is waiting for you outside at the 1/2 house son. Now go take your meds and listen to the teacher’s, we don’t want you to waste state funds, and don’t use the state computer for this blog against the rules.
Neal fitzbob, read and react, you got the react part down, now all you need is the reading part. You’ll love grade 2.
Again who the hell is fitz bob, maybe you and Adam live together, Prime you remind me of a angry white guy who is mad at the world,
Neal
Remember your post to FDM telling him you are only here to start fights? I do.
If there is an angry white male here, it’s you.
Fitz bob, angry? Who’s the sensitive bioch now?
Prime Gay Bashing Time
Was it FDM, have no idea but a person of your IQ probably takes everything verbatim. You remind of the Bee Gees song. “How do you mend a broken heart. How does a Loser ever win”. Now go see your buddy AS tonight and maybe you can get a nice big kiss from on the lips. Bring it on turd breath. lol What a putz you are being AS nut lover and all.
…Neal Fitzbob …..lol……
It is one weiner. lol He has not much to add here except he just shows up?
Who is the angry white man here?
Read your last post. Or any random one. They are hating.
Remember what happened? You said it, and that is all you’ve done since. There is a reason why people tell you “making more friends” because you aren’t. You’re like a concrete wall. Just as unmoving and smart.
Guys you realize Neal is 12 yearsold, take it easy on the kid, he’s having a hard enough time stringing together 2 sentences.
Meanwhile Jack is so old it takes him an eternity to hit post comment cause he’s so arthritic he needs a map from his finger to keyboard.
Knobs Prime, Knobs. Now run off and get back to helping make sure Alex is taken care of.
Alex is fine, his supporters are fine too, we’re like the Honey Badger, we don’t care about things like you, we eat vermin haters like you!
Prime, heard you have been shining AS nuts this season, easy guy those things can be sensitive, Hey Prime I heard your Mother is so damn fat, she is in two zip codes ands you need to take it easy on the donuts, getting some man Boobs .
Neal. That’s just plain bad.
MidWest,
I just want to talk football and it appears that Prime I hate gays Time, is just hear to bash people, it is pretty sad this place was so much better before Prime turned into Slime. LMAO !!
Lol, Prime has moobs!
DS,
Get out of the library using public funds to blog on here.
@neal / jack
You guys are cracking me up. Two zip codes? Hilarious. Poor wittle PrimeAlex, people talkin about his mommy.
Hey Nick,
We had a nice bash last night with the Smithers, they were upset because we were party crasher’s and we stormed into their party at the Motel 6 in East San Jose at the AS cult fan club meeting, Prime, BS and one weiner were polishing AS nuts last night. lol
@Fitzbob Neal:
Why am I not surprised to read you talking about crashing a gay “nut-polishing” party. Can you post a comment without making homoerotic remarks?
Just come out of the closet already. No one’s going to hate on you for that.
LMAO at Claude, here is a guy that has nuts in his name, you wortless piece of crap, just cut and paste loser. Your like a bad fart that just linger’s on. Did you also polish AS knobs last night. Lol
Can we end this thread and talk football?
Claude testicles started it Mr copy and paste man, knows about as much as football as BS.
@Fitzbob:
I started it? I didn’t post a string of comments about shining and polishing another guy’s nuts. That was you.
Seriously, this is a football blog. What’s with all the gay Alex Smith fan fiction? Your comments passed weird a while ago; now, their just creepy. There must be a website somewhere on the ‘net where you can share that crap with other like-minded people. This isn’t it.
*now, they’re just creepy
Holy crap that was bad. I plead exhaustion.
Welcome Claude to the exclusive club where you are brought into discussions which never involved you while simultaneously being made to have something to do with AS’s genitals.
Where’s the football? Not from Neal and company.
Pretty nice work oneniner
Like to see those who you quoted owe up to it now. Just say
“I was wrong. And I am overjoyed to be wrong because my team is better for not thinking like me.”
If they did that (need to mean it now!) the “drama” here would go down a lot. But they won’t. Because they think they know what they don’t and can’t deal with not knowing.
…thks…..would be nice to see them own up to it…..I won’t hold my breath tho…….
They are no where to be found DS, ego has fueled this battle for the haters , intelligence (us) always is the way to be part of a discussion.
DS – Prime – Intelligence, LMFAO!!!
Laugh whatever you want off Jack, is it because you have no article to paste? Joke man, your just a joke on here!
Prime,
You are a crack up. Now run off and help oneniner polish those knobs…
Jack
Go away. Start your own little group. 23J Neal and you will get along. You all think you know more than those who do know more. Have fun.
In case you are not watching, WWE has been involved in an anti-bully campaign. While you are looking up wrestler news, look that up. Check out what makes a bully. Somewhere in that description will be those who keep hanging around those they don’t like and don’t like them. Yet, you do nothing but follow us around. Then you cry foul when the r word is used. Try staying away from those who have asked you to do so. If you don’t you either are “r word” or a bully.
You don’t get it.
Jack how bout I help polish up the 6th Lomabardi trophy that Alex carries thru 49ers head quarters while you look back and polish up your trashdometer, cause thats all you bring to this blog, Trash!
Prime, when did the 49ers win a Lomabardi trophy?
A 6th Lombardi trophy on the other hand, that would be SWEET!
Prime Gay bashing Time, one small weiner and BS, formerly known as DS, thank you for putting me in the same category as Jack and Jordan both legends and Superstars of this blog, I feel honored to be in such a prestigious company, now you are the three stoodges, Moe , Larry and Shirley.
Jack congratulations, you have been appointed blog spell checker and grammar guru. Stay away from trying to come back with decent rebuttals. You know your useless when you have to come back at people with errors in their spelling, pure loserism 101.
DS, Two words. IGNORE BUTTON
LMAO one weiner and Prime Time, that is a heck of intelligent duet. LMAO !!!!
Neal – Have you ever considered a new avatar? Looks like you got shot in one eye bro. :-)
Dang Crab! Your right, Lol!
Crabs he likes catching it in the eye, you know what I’m saying, hahahahhaha!!!!!!!
Thanks Crab, never thought about it.
AS hit me in the eye, the only time he hit the target, figure it was not a football
…..lol….lmao….…Neal Fitzbob what happened to your eye…
And people say Alex Smith is a nice guy. Gotta love it.
Lol…..you jokers! I always enjoy the free entertainment in here.
Are you guys drinkin or thinkin? It is Saturday night!
Alex Smith is no more Mr. Nice Guy, lol
Thinking. Why else would I have a headache? lol
Neal – You remembered the Alice Cooper comment? Nice! I dig all you guys man, some more than others :-). Isn’t it great the Niners are back? This could be our year!!
I’m going to put on some classic rock now & chill with the family, check in here off & on tonight and have some COLD beer. You guys all rock!
Yea Crab’s love Alice Cooper.
Neal,
You say you want to talk football so let’s do it. We both want to see the 49ers get back to the Super Bowl. Answer these two questions:
1). Why do you think they will be successful in that quest?
2). Why don you think they will not be successful (AS must be left out)?
You just insulted half of the visitors on this blog with your second question. AWESOME!!! LOL
Feel free to answer too MidWest.
My answer will be in parts.
Why they will be successful:
Alex Smith will play lights out.
The offense won’t stall in the redzone.
The offense will fully utilize the playbook because there is no lockout.
The running game will be sound with a mix of Gore, Hunter, James, and Jacobs.
Crabtree will live up to being a top ten pick.
Moss will find the fountain of youth.
The OL will be solid.
The D will not drop off.
Aldon Smith becomes any elite every-down OLB.
Justin Smith will continue to be Justin Smith.
The secondary won’t be chewed up for yards.
The special teams doesn’t experience a dropoff.
The play-calling will be better.
Akers won’t have his services needed constantly.
Why they won’t be successful:
Alex Smith regresses, prompting a QB change.
The OL keeps being inconsistent.
Whoever replaced Smith struggles.
Moss quits on the team.
Crabtree continues to stay mediocre.
Despite upgrading the WR corps, this group continues to struggle.
Frank Gore’s age catches up with him, and there is solid replacement for him.
The offense continues to struggle in the redzone.
The D takes a step back.
Justin Smith finally wears down.
Aldon Smith struggles in his second season.
The players on D who were just paid become lax.
The secondary breaks on a consistent basis.
Special teams unit falters.
The play-calling doesn’t improve.
Akers continues to be used in any unhealthy way.
The wrong players get cut.
The team is decimated by injuries.
I know I have Alex Smith in my answers, but the truth is his production is one of many things that can make or break the team. Do these answers work Jack?
Ok Jack Good enough,
I do think we will have a great season, winning the Super Bowl, I am not sure about that,we have a much tougher scheldule and other teams will be keying on us, as last year we were a surprised, we have a 3 year window before Justin Smith, Patrick Willis and others might be on the downside but you can say that on any team.
The coaching staff will be better with another year of experience, yes Jim Harbaugh is still learning and Greg Roman should be better as well with the new targets. I am hopeful Moss will have a great season. I really like our running game with the new additions. As far as wide receivers, Manningham actually did not have a great season last year as Cruz took his starting job, but he is a clutch as we have seen in the Super Bowl and playoffs.
We have great special team, we have a great kicking game with punting and field goals and if Ted Ginn can stay healthy and I am 100% sure he will be on the team, Harbaugh and Baalke learned last year that if you cut a veteran receiver like Braylon Edwards, you can’t replace him with a couple of scrubs from the practice field or when Ted Ginn gets hurt, you can’t replace him with Kyle Williams, those two bad decisions cost us a Super bowl.
Everything is better Jack, we probably have a better QB ( not saying alot), and we know we have a better running game, better receivers and the defense and special teams is second to none. Now if we just had Aaron Rodgers, dumb ass decision from Nolan and Mike McCarthy,I would be overly optimistic but after getting caught up with the Sharks and saying this is the year that we are getting the cup, I am just going to go through this game by game. Lastly we have better back up QB’s so that will help. If we don’t win the Super Bowl it will be a disappointment, but the only thing that will stop that will be injuries or not getting top play from the QB decision.
@ Neal
I’m laughing at myself because I’m usually the one asking people not to be negative……….
But as to Special Teams: I love what ST did last year and I know Coach values it highly, but we lost a few key st guys and we may lose some more due to cuts, so I’m only saying the new crew will have to prove themselves. I think a standard has been set and will likely be equalled, but they gotta go do it; last year is ancient history.
MidWest and Neal, a lot of good stuff. Here goes mine:
1). The full offseason and participation will help with installation of the full offense. That coupled with the improved WR corps will lead to an increase in 3rd down conversions (~33%) and red zone efficiency.
Kendall Hunter will have an increased role, and along with the additions of Jacobs and James will help keep Gore fresher heading into the postseason.
The addition of Alex Boone at RG will prove to be addition by subtraction as the o line becomes a road grader in the run game while cutting the sacks on Smith in half.
The defense will continue the the high level of play. Aldon Smith begins to dominate on an everydown basis unseen since the days of Charles Haley. The secondary continues to be ball hawks, and they become an dominant defense in yards given up to go with their ability to keep opponents out of the end zone.
On special teams they continue to pin opponents deep, and their return game led by Ted Ginn continues to be among the best in the league at giving the offense great field position.
2). Despite participating in a full offseason program with Harbaugh the offense continues to struggle on 3rd down and in the Red Zone. To make matters worse the offense has trouble holding onto the ball and the TO differential shrinks, putting both the defense and the offense in compromised positions. The offense no longer benefits from short fields and the defense is often forced into action with their backs to the wall on many occasions.
The lack of a veteran backup at RG becomes an issue when it becomes obvious that the young guys aren’t ready for that role.
The defense, which in 2011 was almost injury free, deals with a rash of nagging injuries throughout the season, forcing multiple personnel moves to shore up.
Rodgers and Goldson, after receiving new multiple year extensions, Goldson’s coming after missing the first 2 weeks of training camp are not able to hold onto the interceptions like in 2011. This leads to extra opportunities for the opposing offense and they are able to cash in.
In conclusion, there are a lot of things to be excited about heading into 2012. The team finally has good leadership in place from the top down, and the frustration everyone felt at the end of the 2012 NFC Championship will hopefully be washed away with a 6th LOMBARDI TROPHY. GO 9ERS!!!!!
Good stuff Jack. We need to catch up with the Steelers with Super Bowl victories.
And then surpass them. Can’t wait.
Haaha Brother Tuna,
We did have a love fest a couple of hours ago but Jack got us back on agenda. :)
Here’s one for you Jack. If the Niners make it to the Super Bowl(and they will), who will be their opponent and why?
@ MidWest,
Getting their will be tougher then the actual Super Bowl, Saints, although they are in disaray, Giants and Packers I am more concerned with then the Super bowl game, it can be the Pats, Steelers or my favorite would be the Bronco’s, that would be great poetic justice if we can beat Peyton.
MidWest,
That is a tough one, but I will say this years Super Bowl will be San Francisco 49ers vs Denver Broncos. That would be an unbelievable match up for the media folks, but I am just messing with you.
I think they will play against the Houston Texans. The Texans defense was very underrated last year, and that unit along with a healthy Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson will get them to the big game.
I also need to agree with Neal. I think the road through the NFC has more pitfalls, and if the 49ers can get there they will win it going away.
My only concern with Houston is that they let the right side of their very good O-Line go. Outside of that they are the most balanced team in the NFL.
I agree with you Jack. I think it will be San Francisco vs. Houston in the Super Bowl. Their offense is very balanced and their defense is a nightmare in it’s own way. I think they’ll unseat the Patriots as the top team in the AFC this season. I also agree with you Neal that the NFC won’t be as easy to conquer. I’m predicting a 10-6 record with a sixth Super Bowl victory for the Niners this season. My guess on the score is 31-26. Niners all the way!
My early Super Bowl prediction is a rematch of the Harbaugh bowl. The talented Ravens are hungry and Ray Lewis still provides ridiculous leadership. I would like some sweet revenge on them. The refs pulled some crap on us last time in Baltimore. Remember the TD they took away? Total B.S.
That’s a good call too Crab. Went back and forth between them and Houston. The loss of Suggs is what swayed me to Houston.
Yeah, I think the loss of Suggs is huge. I think N.E. will be back in the Super Bowl. They are much better than the other teams in their division and they have a strong home field advantage, which I believe they will have for the playoffs. Niners vs. Patriots is my pick, with the Niners beating the Bears in the NFC Championship game at the Stick. I have Alex Smith’s postgame MVP speech here for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuT7S-qpLfs
Hammertime – I agree w/you about the importance of Suggs, he’s one mean S.O.B and he can play. He’s not the most intelligent player though, dumb penalties and has a BIG mouth.
Houston is more explosive than Baltimore and they have a solid defense too. However, I give slight edge to Ravens due to experience in big games.
It might come down to home field advantage in the AFC.
BigP – Ha ha ……What’s up brotha? Always good to see you in here.
Whuttup Crabs?! A little laughter goes a long way sometimes. We had our family reunion today, beautiful weather and great food-nothing wrong with that. Just enjoying the weekend and waiting for football to start brotha!
BigP – No kiddin man, we need more humor in here. I tried to send a post with two funny pics earlier but it’s awaiting moderation. I tried to post it three times. I guess if you attach more than one link to a post, it’s automatically red flagged for moderation. Grant must be out partying.
Sounds like your reunion was perfect.
Yes, unfortunately the hijinks and shenanagans must be limited to one link. Lol, enjoy the rest of your weekend buddy.
Did anyone read LC column about which teams are going up and which are going down?. He thinks the Niners are going down because last year everything worked out pretty well without any injuries and the Niners had a easier scheldule last year, compared to this year. I am pretty certain we will not match the 13 and 3 record, but we should be 11-5 or 10-6 and that will get us to the play-offs.
Yeah Neal, I read it…..I thought he made alot of valid points regarding the success the Niners had last season. The biggest being turnover differential and injuries. The team was pretty much free from a major injury last season, and the turnover differential was something that will, in all likelyhood, not be duplicated.
I’m in agreement with you on the record….13-3 will be very difficult to match considering this seasons schedule….I see 11-5 and another NFC West title……and with cautious and guarded optimism, another trip to the NFC Championship game.
I hope so, it been a long 17 years.
Very long.
Justin Blackmon, aggravated DUI, on profootball talk! Again!
Sure glad we didnt draft him.
oneniner says:
March 10, 2012 at 12:08 pm
…niners will give in……they don’t have a choice……
Hoferfan67 says:
March 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Grant, I don’t think AS is interested in FA. The 9ers need him and he needs the 9ers. It is business and each side will be smiling when the deal is done – the bad guys in this are Paraag and TC. They’ll come to a compromise and we’ll not know who really yielded because the contract will be drafted in a way to indicate a win/win. I’m sure there will be articles stating who we thought folded like a paper bag (yielded) but it will be all conjecture.
oneniner says:
March 10, 2012 at 12:38 pm
…..”The 9ers need him and he needs the 9ers”…… true the 9ers need him but he really doesn’t need the 9ers……
……After Payton, Smith and Flynn are the only two QB’s that can get starter $$…….
Jack Hammer says:
March 10, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Oneniner, the 49ers don’t NEED Alex Smith, especially not at over $10m per year. They could use that $$ in other areas and CK will take over.
oneniner says:
March 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm
…if you really know this team or know the game you will understand that the chance of the niners making it to the playoffs again next yr is slim to none with a new QB……
This was easy. All you have to do is look for positive news for Smith, dont look for bad news because this clown NEVER POSTS on those. Poooof.
Now this little gem “which is 1 of my all time faves” Shows a moron of a mans take on “what he claims” is his team and the faith he has in the GM and coach AAAANDDD other players on the roster. All for the defense of ONE PLAYER. Hmmmmm True agenda is Alex, and hating on anyone that could stand in front of Smiths 9er career……This includes some 49er of the past and present……Crabbs, M. Sing, J Raye, Shaun Hill, Troy Smith to name a few….. DS and Prime. I would love to see what you think of these facts Im showing you. A TRUE fan COULDNT say this and hate these players if they were a TRUE fan. RIGHT?………..TBC Onelame. Lets see how you feel about TB Next
….ha ha ha…this copy and paste thingy is fun, isn’t it ese………good to see you following in the footsteps of your master…….
…you need more training though…..cuz I can’t find anything contradictory in what you pasted….
Are you saying I always have positive news about Alex???……well not 100% true…but lets say you are correct……..wtf is wtong with you ese….he is the starting QB of my team, why would i be screaming negative thoughts about him……
damn dude….you are really messed up in the head…..how can i hate on my QB???
md
AS will be the starter, so clearly JH thinks AS will be the best the Niners have to go to the playoffs.
What point were you trying to make that oneniner does not freely admit?
Thats what I said about his lame copy and paste rant. Its no secret I wanted Smith gone before Harbaugh came, but I never said the 49ers need Alex Smith and Smith doesnt need the 9ers. Yeah who came crawling back to take the offer he didnt like? Once again you lameduck partner tried to beat his chest and failed. Really trying to bring up what I said about a crappy qb back then? OOhhhh He really got me. LMAO!!!! Ds Ive been abusing your boy for years now. He can take some abuse, but sooner than later Ill get him so mad again, he’ll respond with names and cursing. Just like before, when me and Telecat destroyed him amd he got booted. Right Onelame? HA HA HA HAAAAAAA
oneniner says:
March 19, 2012 at 12:27 am
…why do i get the feeling TB legacy will be turning chicken salad into chicken zhit…….
One more little gem of this “49er fan” before I get on the old water vessel and enjoy the water….. TBC…………Onelame. Way to support your “team” again. Buahahahahahahaaaaa TO EASY!
Great job md!
oneniner, so much for all your “real fan” blabbering. Do you like your nuts salty?
lol….this was my feeling if we had gone after Manning…..and it still remains the same if we had signed Manning…..
come dude…you have to do better than this……:)
One weiner like it both ways. He is a confused weiner.
+1….. This Moron is still doubting the GM of the year. So basically He’s saying that if Manning were the qb, he wouldnt root for him. STILL!!! HA HA HAAA One guy, One Agenda, One player………ONELAME! Wheeew Keep it going “real fan” HA HA AHAAA
I don’t know..I would wonder if some time asking how would CK do against these teams since Alex is due for an injury?. Maybe Harbaugh changed all that,but it is scary to think of CK having to beat this years schedule.
Here are some more predictions.
1. Alex Smith will throw for 4,350 yards, 38 Tds, and have 14 INTs.
2. Frank Gore will eclipse 1,000 yards rushing, but not by much. Hunter, James, and Jacobs will account for at least 700 yards rushing.
3. There will be two receivers who will catch for over 1,000 yards.
4. The offense will be in the top ten, and redzone offense will be in the top five.
5. Alex Boone will have a Pro Bowl season.
6. Vernon Davis will lead the league in TD receptions.
7. Third down efficiency will improve drastically.
8. Randy Moss will win the CPOY award.
9. The defense will lead or be in the top five in every good statistic.
10. Ahmad Brooks and Aldon Smith will have 10+ sacks.
11. Dashon Goldson and Carlos Rogers will be in the top five for interceptions.
12. Patrick Willis will win the MVP.
Those are some bold predictions Widwest.
1. I think Alex will have 3800-4100 yards. 25 TDs 12 Int. 62 comp%, 93 rating. A big reason his pass yards will increase i believe is do to having KH and LJ in the back field. They will combine for around 600 yards in the passing game.
2. I agree with you on this one. Frank will carry the load and show the Naysayers he is still and top back. 1100 yards 6 TD’s.
3. I believe MC will lead the 49ers in Yards with around 1100, second will be VD with around 900. Teams will be doubling VD after what he did in the playoffs. And MC will see a lot of #2 CB’s and he will toast them.
Thanks. You have have some good ones too. Finally we fans can make bold predictions for our team again. The boldest one I made in the previous decade was that the Niners will make the playoffs.
I think that’s about right. I don’t see him throwing for 38 TD’s, that is a 225% increase. I do think Moss and James will help the red zone offense quite a bit though.
I want to see what kind of Bold predictions Grant has for this year. I sense an article coming. haha
I say 38 TDs because Moss, Manningham, Crabtree, Davis, and probably Walker will be on the field at the same time. Who does the opposing defense double up without getting burned?
MidWest,
You won’t see Moss, Manningham, Crabtree, Davis and Walker all on the field at the same time,
Harbaugh/Roman always have at least 1 RB in the game at all times, but I see your point.
This is where the James pick could come into use. His versatility will make a tough matchup for the defense.
Bold Predictions:
Prediction 1) Kyle Williams will make the 53 man roster as they decide to carry 6 WR’s.
Prediction 2) Due to the growth from Williams, AJ Jenkins will not be active on game day early in the season.
Prediction 3) Brandon Jacobs will lead the RB’s with 10 rushing TD’s this year. He will fulfill the short yardage role they brought him in for.
Prediction 4) Alex Smith will start every game and come in at around 4000 yards, and about 25 TD’s, but if his int’s increase to 12 we will be in trouble because I don’t see the defense getting 38 TO’s again this year.
Midwest
I see
5OL
VD
RM
rookie RB boy
Hunter
AS
other WR(depending on play)
“rookie RB boy” …. PRICELESS!! : )
DS, No Frank Gore or any players on the defense?
midwest
It is a game of matchups and two fast RB’s with VD RM and other will present more problems against more teams more often than FG/defenders will.
So Gore and no one on our defense will be Pro Bowlers DS?
I was only talking about the offense. And I can care less about Pro-Bowlers. I liked JS before he was a Pro-Bowler. Him getting into the Pro Bowl didn’t impact me at all. I know what he’s done whether the rest of the NFL does or not. He was my fav before and he remains my fav now. I don’t judge players by Pro-Bowls/awards. But by what I’ve seen. Other people may not agree with it. But I can’t much do anything about that.
13. Special teams will have at least five touchdowns.
14. There will be at least seven players named to the Pro Bowl.
15. Jim Harbaugh will be COY again.
Boldest prediction- Everyone on this blog accepts Alex as our QB…..
Yes, Adam 707,
AS is our QB. I believe that the majority of bloggers here are in agreement with that. Once again, after what AS did last year it would be total foolishness to replace him.
AS’ skill level will be sharpened and honed with a much stronger schedule this season than in 2011, and because of this we will see a more confident and efficient QB in the postseason.
I love MWN’ enthusiasm regarding the upcoming season, but I believe that we will have stiffer competition in our own division from Seattle, Arizona, and perhaps St. Louis if Bradford recaptures his ‘mojo.’ But like MWN, I’m stoked about 2012!
Not so bold – if Alex lives up to MWN’s bold prediction everyone will accept him. Even ESPN.
I think this is going to be Smith’s “prove it” year. He’s shown flashes of the potential and now all of his excuses are gone. This year he either joins the ranks of great 49ers QBs – Albert, Tittle, Brodie, Montana, Young, Garcia – or he proves he belongs in the DeBerg/Rattay/Spurrier group.
AS will never be in the family of the first group, if he can be in the same family as Jeff Garcia, that will be a huge improvement.
I am not sure is Garcia belongs in that first group, I think he is in the middle of the line. As a Smither I expect AS to perform better then Garcia, but that still wouldnt put him with the Montana group. I am with you Msc, this is a put up or shut year for AS. I think AS is going to become a very good QB, not elite, but very good this year.
Actually if you look at the current trend at the QB position, you’ll see that my prediction has him out of the elite category. It would have been elite 3-5 years ago, but now not so much.
And you guys are right. This is a make-or-break season for Alex Smith, or as I say, “Put up or shut up”.
It is make or break for AS, although I would love to know who might be available in free agency next season, would be great if we can find a QB already in the top 12. When we have a new starter in 2013, we are going to have some growing pains with JJ or CK before they get familar with the team. Unless AS get’s hurt or he is replaced during this season, these other guys are going to need some added experience.
Even if Brees is available, I’m hoping we aren’t QB shopping because that means we’ll stink this season and there isn’t any future options on the current roster.
We would be crazy not going after Brees, although he will probably be cost prohibited, and he would want more money then Peyton.
I agree that we would be crazy to not go after Brees. I’m just saying that I hope we have less of a reason after this season.
Adam707,
NEVER!!! This is the season that you will see why. With all of this speed and receivers who can get deep, Smith will be more inaccurate than ever. His problem is, he has problems accurately hitting a moving target. Now we have moving targets with even more speed than ever. Making it that much more difficult.
So you’re saying that the team will falter? C’mon 23. Have some faith.
“I think this is going to be Smith’s “prove it” year.”
I thought I heard over and over the same thing last year. :P
Deberg, Rattay and Spurrier never led the 9ers anywhere. Smith is already ahead of them. Another case of flawed reasoning because of bias against a player. At least try to keep it real guys. Not believing Smith is the long time future of this team I can understand, but don’t act as if he is a loser along the lines of the guys mentioned above. He was the QB of a 14 win team that went to the NFC Championship. Give him at least an ounce of credit for that.
Sorry Rocket – the 13-3 record doesn’t make Alex a good QB in my eyes. I’ve seen too many mediocre QBs carried to a great record by a strong defense. Rex Grossman (13-3, SB appearance), Trent Dilfer (SB win), Brad Johnson (SB win), Chris Chandler (14-2, NFCCG), Jim Everett (11-5, turned into Chris Everett by 49ers in NFCCG) – heck, even Steve DeBerg had a 11-5 year with the Chiefs (23 TD 4 INT omg, he’s elite!). It isn’t common for a team to win with a mediocre QB but it does happen.
Alex showed flashes of great potential in 2011. He also had long stretches of mediocrity. The playoffs summed up Alex perfectly – a brilliant game followed by a dud. We can quibble over the squandered turnovers but in the end Alex carried the 49ers over the Saints. A week later the 49ers just needed one play – just one – and Alex couldn’t deliver.
If he can reach his potential (the Saints game showed what he can do) more consistently he could be a great QB. If he keeps following great games with duds he’ll be a guy like Grossman, Johnson, Dilfer or DeBerg. Just good enough to get you beat.
msc,
The point is, he’s already done a lot more here than DeBerg, Rattay and Spurrier ever did. You can’t put him in that category. I agree he is inconsistent, but he doesn’t belong in a category with guys like this.
@Rocket You’re correct that I’m being too black-and-white in my view of 49ers QBs. The history of the 49ers has been great QBs or bad QBs. Maybe we should add a new category.
We have the greats – Albert, Tittle, Montana, etc.
The bads – Spurrier, Rattay
And the adequate: DeBerg, Smith, Garcia
msc,
There you go. That is a better measure of things, although there is still a bit of a gap between Garcia and Smith, but hopefully Smith gets there this year.
Now we just have to figure out where to put Cody Pickett.
Did Cody ever get a start? We may have to add a 4th category: The Forgotten.
Matt Cavanaugh, Jeff Kemp, etc. etc.
Yeah he did. In Chicago in the crazy wind game. Poor guy.
Unless we are down by a 25 points which is doubtful.
DS94everXev says:
June 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm
@AES
I loved Nolan…until he threw AS under the bus. After that, I wanted a new HC.
When MS was hired, I loved it. Then when MS apparently never did find that film room and publically insulted AS, I wanted him gone.
Now we have JH. And there are more complaints about him complimenting his players than there were complaints about MN/MS putting down their players.
You’ve read this blog about as long as I have if not longer. I can’t believe you don’t take note of that and go “What the ****!” This blog was better when the HC’s attacked players than it is now with the HC complimenting them.
Something is inherently wrong with that.
DS, you actually make a couple of points here. Although one point only serves to incriminate you on the fact that you are an Alex Smith FIRST FAN, before the team.
Your other point does have some substance. Although I don’t know where Singeltary threw AS under the bus (Nolan certainly did), he did little to endear himself to his team. You are correct in regards to Harbaugh using more tact when speaking about his players.
Oh and one more thing. I probably have been here longer than you. You weren’t here when MD and I used to go at each other tooth and nail over AS. MD was done with AS, and I believed the Org owed it to AS to give him another chance to prove himself after all the crap layed on him. After the 2010 season I was in agreement with MD (as was the majority here) that AS was done. But then Harbaugh entered the scene and everything changed.
But that’s neither here or there now. Because things change and along with that so do opinions. Today it’s my right to critique and praise players as I see fit. I will continue to do this (as I always have for 40 yrs.) whether you, oneniner, or prime like it or not. If you don’t like it DS, just follow your own advise and not follow my posts. Oh, and pass that along to your friends as well.
…”Although I don’t know where Singeltary threw AS under the bus”…….ha ha ha….you are clueless…..somebody plz upgrade this loof….
..’Because things change and along with that so do opinions.”……..Glad you are finally admitting you are a flip flopper…..
…nothing as changed regarding Alex since day 1………true niner fans know what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL and have supported Alex because despite the good results he has produced, he has not been given the tools to develop into that top QB…….”Blind faith and absolute positivity, theres no better way to enjoy the game”
…….fair weather fans just want “show me”…..no matter the circumstances, their opinions is not supported with any common sense instead with emotions…..
and we have you the flip flopping fan…..”Today it’s my right to critique and praise players as I see fit.”…….you are correct AES, you have every right to look stupid……and like prime stated…..
……”you haters who come on here and say I’m just stating my opinion, well keep in mind you can still look like a horses arse if you don’t put some thoughtful football thinking behind your ignorant thinking, as we have just witnessed”……
Hahaha, ‘oneniner’ I guess stupidity is something you are very familiar with. I could copy and paste some your somewhat over the top comments with 49ergirl, but what’s the point we all know you’re a loser already.
OBTW, “go get us a Superbowl “Jimmy!”
DS – Thanks for the honest response. I can respect that.
I regret some of the names/insults I called you recently. You deserved some lip but not that much. I’m not going to bore the bloggers with an explanation though.
Beware DS – the Crab is watching, even when you don’t think he is. :-)
…crab15 keepin it real…..
AES
Had MN/MS done that with any player (including MC) my reaction remains the same. Dump the jerk.
Remember, a good part of my dislike for MC stems from him publically saying what he has. HC/player, they all must do the same. Leave personal issues/bad-mouthing one another behind closed doors, preferably never said to begin with.
MS/MN didn’t do that. I liked them both before they said that. Same with MC.
…I agree….
I was a big supporter of Nolan…..because I always thought he had a good strategy and good mind……..but when he started looking out for his job instead of staying strong and focusing on the team…..I lost faith in him….
Singletary was cool also at first…..but he was way over dramatic after the losses……most of the blame was on the players…….and his counter reaction to challenges made me lose respect for the guy…..I believe he did bench the best QB on the team to prove a point I have no idea was proven…
And I do remember reading your posts with md. I do go back that far.
Also note the lack of posts from me where I quote JH’s comment about MC’s hands. I noted it 1 or 2 times when it happened but am not obsessing over it like the haters over the “AS Pro-Bowl” thing. Why? Because if he does we win the Super Bowl. Since that is what I want, I’m not pissed about it. If it turns out to not be true, I’m not going to be pissed that the HC of my team complimented unwarranted a player on my team. If that act upsets somebody, they suck.
It rots from the top, and bad decisions from Jed, from Mike Nolan, Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers and the Rev, without a doubt one of the worst decisions in NFL history. Any moron knew that Rodgers played more in NFL ready offensive, that Alice.
Dont forget the other 23 teams that passed on him also.
We needed a QB, and the other 23 teams didnot.
Neal, I highly doubt Rodgers would have succeeded here because there really type of support for the QB for the past decade.
…there really wasn’t any type of support…
If he lasted as long as AS we would be in alot better shape, with a very questionable QB.
We really can’t say that for sure Neal, what with the way the franchise was grossly mishandled in almost every aspect.
DS – So you’re ok with MC except for is “off field” actions/comments?
As you know he was our leading WR with 72 catches but had 7 pathetic drops. Too bad they don’t keep stats on “pass inclompletion saves” …MC had at least 7 of those saves. So the way I see it, AS & MC were “all square” in 2011.
Did you know that over a 2 year period in Dallas, T.O. dropped 27 passes?
I’m confident that MS & AS will both have better seasons this year.
Can’t wait til the Niners wack the Pack at “LAMEbeau” field!
Crab
If MC goes the JT route and didn’t talk to the media (especially after the title game) I still think we need more WR’s than we have. I’d be fine with him on/off the team. I trust JH. If MC comes to start the season as the teams #1WR he will have truly earned it. If MC is cut, I’m fine with that as well. That means he isn’t as good as the Niners are looking for.
If MC had kept his mouth shut, I probably don’t give it much thought him skipping that practice. I still think he needs the practice with AS, but I am not so hard on him. MC wouldn’t be in the dog house as he is with me at the moment.
And I liked TO and fully supported him thru his phase (never ended) of the dropsies. Had the Niners lost that game, I wouldn’t have blamed TO.
It was only when TO spoke poorly of his QB’s skill (sound familiar?) and sexualitythat I wanted TO gone. As a general rule I don’t want players to be gone. I want the team to get better. I see a distinction between these 2 things. You may not.
Hint
Neal calling Alex “Alice” qualifies as wanting a player gone. Not that he wants the team to be better.
DS, I have stopped reading your fiction, please hit the ignore button with me as well.
DS, you have every right to feel like you do about MC. You wouldn’t have a problem “dumping” him? All good.
But I reiterate that I felt the same way about AS a couple of years ago. I thought he was done after the 2010 campaign. Fast-forward to the present and AS is our Starter largely due to the Harbaugh magic.
I said at the beginning of last season that AS, not you, ‘oneniner’ ‘prime’ or anyone else could change how I felt about his game. Then AS had his renaissance under Harbaugh last season and he did what I felt he needed to do; outplay his criticizers, and he did.
‘oneniner’ says that a real fan has ‘blind faith’ which interpreted means pretty to settle for mediocrity no matter what.
Well that’s not my credo. I’m a 49er fan, not a particular player fan who I’ve become emotionally attached to because of a bad situation under the previous regimes. I want the best players on the field that gives us the best chance to win, period!
AS proved his worth last year. And as far as i’m concerned so did MC. If either or both of them fail then it’s time to bring in the next option.
“Blind Faith” leads to too many dead ends. It might be good enough for the you, prime, and the ‘oneniners’ of this world, but I need something more substantive.
AES
If MC increases his performance (not stats) like AS did between 2010 and 2011, both players will get a new payday and and remain Niners for a long time. And I’ll be happy that I was wrong about MC.
Why? Because this team will be unbeatable barring injury. And if I, you, other is mad about that, then they suck.
…AES….”‘oneniner’ says that a real fan has ‘blind faith’ which interpreted means pretty to settle for mediocrity no matter what.”
…..which dictionary did you use to interpret this?…
So basically if any teammate says anything bad about Smith you dont like them and want them gone. Better hope AS never says anything bad, you would be in a real pickle ds. Good job on being a fan, wanting a coach gone for trying to toughen up his qb. WOW! That sounds like a Hater to me. You and Onelame really have no clue on how moronic you sound. “Real fans” of Alex Smith Ill give you that.
“The reason why the D gave up those late leads is because it was not large enough.”
Moronic? No. Just the #1 comedian of the blog. Morons are way smarter.
You don’t see how that statement describes the Raiders/bottom-dwellers of the NFL much better than an “elite D” there is not a term to describe that thought, or the person who came up with and still defends it.
#1 comedian of the blog folks!
I’m going to have to grab a beer or a glass of wine and read through all of this. Do you all see what winning and having something to look forward to this season has done to this blog. lol Bottom line everyone wants the 9ers to win. Grant, you need to post something new here. Midwest gave you a great subject – (bold) predictions – and you didn’t act on it. Now off to my beverage…
You might want to get a keg before attempting that Hofer ; )
@ Crab15
Well, Clemons and I have agreed on wines before, so he must have good taste. There are a some breweries up Clemons’ way in Mendocino worth noting:
Mendocino Brewing (Red Tail Ale, among others)
Anderson Valley Brewing (try the Boont Amber Ale)
North Coast Brewing ( Red Seal Ale & Scrimshaw Beer)
My favorite poison? ( Don’t hate me) Russian River Valley Pinot Noir.
Maybe we can tap steins at the tailgate before Opening Day at the new stadium. : >)
Bro Tuna – I’m in! You’re in charge, for real.
Hoooooofffffffffeeeee!! = What’s up my main man?! Sundays are not the same with no NFL!
How’s the vino flowin today? I’ve been sippin on COLD I.P.A.’s lately bro.
Yo Crabs
If/when you come up NorCal way, see if you can get your hands on the IPA from Lagunitas Brewery; its a winner fo’ sho’. Its mostly distributed in the north bay area, but look for it. Cheers!
Bro Tuna – Thanks!
Msclemons suggested Lagunitas IPA (6.2%) a couple months back, it’s real good. Also, I tried the Redhook (Long Hammer IPA 6.2%), New Belgium Ranger IPA (6.5%), Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye IPA (6.6%) and Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA (7.2%).
My personal top 5 rankings are:
1. Sierra Nevada Ruthless Rye IPA
2. Redhook (Long Hammer IPA
3. Lagunitas IPA
4. New Belgium Ranger IPA
5. Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA
What’s your poison Tuna?
Go Niners!!
Crab, what’s happening dude! Yes sir, definitely missing some 9er football on Sundays. Looks like I missed some interesting banter on here the last day and a half. lol
Anyway, need to acquaint myself with IPA beer. I had a few Amstels. But yeah, vino…my favorite is all varieties (ha! that was for you, Tuna, and MSC lol). But favorite now, but not by much, is Napa Cab. Enjoy a good crisp NZ Sauvignon Blan, Pinot (Russian River, Santa Barbara, Oregon), Zin, Cab Franc, and yes the best bargain, Merlot.
Anyhow, good to see you posting again. 9ers all the way bro!
10-4 Hofe! You know the wine/vino is a foreign language to me, Russian/NZ what??
C’mon Hofe? Keep it real bro. :-)
Crab, NZ = New Zealand. See you can educate me on IPA beer and I can do the same for you with wine. Anyway, tired of watching reruns on NFL.net. Seems like everyone on here is getting antsy and cantankerous. BTW, looking forward to MC having a career year. All arrows up!!
Who do you guys think will be the toughest opponent during the regular season? I’m going to say the Saints. They’ll want revenge. They still have a very potent offense. They will most definitely after this offseason play angry. I know we face some other elites, but the Saints scare me the most right now.
I believe that game is on the road, so I agree a very tough game, although with their cheating coach out and Brees not getting the contract he wants yet, they can implode, which is our best chance of winning. New England will be touch as well, they will be better offense next season.
I thought about saying the Patriots, but this thought crossed my mind: how will Brees play when he feels disrespected? That to me is a very scary thing to fathom.
I think Packers and Saints on the road are the two toughest games for the 49ers this year. Rodgers is a beast and Brees is a different animal in the dome.
IMO, The two toughest road games this year will be @GB, and @Seattle.
I think this is the year the wheels come off the Pete Carroll cheerleader wagon. His pattern in the NFL has been strong start followed by falling off a cliff. Grown men stop responding to the rah-rah quickly.
DS94everXev says:
June 3, 2012 at 6:34 pm
AES
“If MC increases his performance (not stats) like AS did between 2010 and 2011, both players will get a new payday and and remain Niners for a long time. And I’ll be happy that I was wrong about MC.
Why? Because this team will be unbeatable barring injury. And if I, you, other is mad about that, then they suck.”
Thank you DS! And I will add that if MC undercheives, he should be benched.
“I want winners!” (lol)
AES* – Good stuff but I think the MC factor has been diminished with Moss, Manningham & Jenkins coming in.
MC does need to step up and show why he is the ONLY two time Biletnikoff Award winner though!
Aes – I really think that foot injury really slowed MC down, many of the regulars in here still do not accept the injury AES.
Have any of you ever had a foot or toe injury when you played ball? I played baseball 3 years and football 1 year (senior H.S.) with a busted big toe. It sucked man, I stayed clean and overdosed on Advil & Excedrin to get me through :-). I got drafted playing juco baseball with a busted toe lol. I kept my mouth shut but it hurt like hell.
Crab,
There are some here who have completely ignored (selective memory loss) the fact that MC did not attend Camp Alex II and was slowed at the beginning of the season because he had surgery on his foot.
First they hammered him because of this and then although he led the team in receptions, they hammered him for his poor playoff outings.
It is what it is.
MC’ numbers may be down from last season because of the new weapons who will catch their fair share of passes.
I’m ok with this. MC doesn’t need to lead the team in catches, he just needs to make all the catches and work on getting open more than last season. I’m perfectly fine with MC finishing with 50-60 catches as long as they are quality catches that move the offense upfield.
AES – Perfectly said! When you’re only good at one thing (not saying MC is) he might be…..probably is but you want to be out there with your teammates at all costs. If you’re only good at “beer pong” you’re not going to lie about a hand injury and skip a couple parties with hot chicks present. You want to show those hotties “who the man is”… you know what I’m sayin?
You know Crabs I understand injuries, and it doesnt have to be your foot. I was playing some pop warner ball, (first of its kind in the U.S.). I was QB and corner on defense. I was tackling this guy, Dennis Eckersley (former As reliver) brother Glenn, who is currently serving 40 years in Colorado for kidnapping, attempted murder and robbery, and tore the ligements in my thumb. Needless to say I could no longer play QB so I had to play receiver. That injury which was many many years ago still affects me. So ya playing with injuries does hamper your performance.
U/Center – Damn, thanks for sharing that story. Not everything works out in sports like you think it will. I didn’t know D. Eckersley played football. Back then we all played FB, baseball & basketball. It’s different now. Good stuff Center.
oneniner says:
June 3, 2012 at 6:41 pm
…AES….”‘oneniner’ says that a real fan has ‘blind faith’ which interpreted means pretty to settle for mediocrity no matter what.”
…..which dictionary did you use to interpret this?”…
The new edition of “I Will Follow Alex to the End of the World” dictionary.
No one would have been more upset then you had the 49ers signed PM. We all know this. Wanting a player after years of mediocrity doesn’t show ‘blind faith’ it shows a sick obsession. Harbaugh saved AS’ football career last year. But even having done that, Harbaugh went to ‘evaluate’ PM. Keep your ‘blind faith’ ‘oneniner’
“I want winners!”
…exactly what i thought………you making up stuff as usual to prove a (dazed, deficient, dense, dim, dodo, doltish, dopy, dotterel, dull, dumb) point………….nuff said!!!!
So are denying that AS is not your favorite 49er?
oneniner – I know you’re fearless but which team do you fear more in NFC Championship?
G.B., N.Y.G., N.O., Philly., Det or Chi?
…philly..
one- Damn good pick.
Have to agree – Philly could be scary this year if they figure out how to use all that talent.
AES…..Just for fun go back in the archives when Manning was “supposed” to be coming here and look at about 6 of the ten posts for those weeks, You’ll spot onelames comments easily, because there were about 3. He vanished again, THEN when we found out Manning picked Den, He was right back on here beating his chest. LMAO!!! Its great. Ds was the only idiot on here talking out of their a$$…………. Blind Faith got Onelame hating T Smith, S Hill too. NO Support for the QB then. Hmmm wonder why? This dude is a Joke. I refuse to let him claim to be a 49ers fan. He’s a joke!
Is there a “I told you so” blog coming from Grant about Blackmon?
C’mon now – gotta let Blackmon sober up before we laugh at him. It’s only fair.
crab15 says:
June 3, 2012 at 7:48 pm
“AES – Perfectly said! When you’re only good at one thing (not saying MC is) he might be…..probably is but you want to be out there with your teammates at all costs. If you’re only good at “beer pong” you’re not going to lie about a hand injury and skip a couple parties with hot chicks present. You want to show those hotties “who the man is”… you know what I’m sayin?”
Crab, I have to plead the 5th on that one, been married for 40 years (lol)!
AES – You did the right thing. Feel good about yourself tonight…lol.
I cant wait until Alex Smith rips the NFL for 555 yards a game this year. He will average 5 TD’s a game. We will average 55 points a game. We are winning the next 5 super bowls with Alex SMith at QB! He is Elite, A Pro Bowler, Super Clutch, he will have 15 comeback victories this season. His game stats this year 55 for 55 for 555 yards and 5 touchdowns. Rememer, he could care less about stats! I am a SMither now. Myself and Oneniner AKA Onejaguar(Smith’s destination next year) pulled these stats out his azz.
Lol….”Onejaguar.” Let’s hope Smith is good enough to lead us to a Super Bowl victory, that’s all I care about at this point. It’s June and I feel like going Terry Tate on a few fools.
So i am a patriots fan and wanted to see what niners fans were thinking about the pats game. It is the game I am looking forward to most, as it provides the best chance to judge how well the team is doing. We have a lot of games against sub-par teams(dolphins, jets, buffalo, etc.)and it is nice to get an actual contendor on the schedule. It is also nice to see a team’s fans actually know what they are talking about. This is refreshing. Giants fans anger me as they don’t know much about football. They think Eli is Elite even though he only scored about 21 points against the 31st D in the league. I think the Miami Dolphins scored more against us at one point.I think he also led the league in interceptions last year. Inconsistent is not Elite. I would also love to see a pats/49′ers super bowl. It would be a great game. Good luck niners, and I hope you beat the giants whenever you play them this year.
He may not be elite, but he beat your Patriots in the Super Bowl twice. I remember when they said the same thing about Brady, who I have a ton of respect for. It’s going to be an exciting season, best of luck until we meet in week 15.
Eli had 16 picks last year. The league average (per team) was 15.8, so he was average. 25 led the league.
Eli is very good, he is not elite.
When a qb goes on the road and beats the two best NFC at their house, I consider that a damn great qb. Stats don’t show the whole situation. Your playing the best teams in the league during the playoffs. History shows, with a couple of exceptions that qb’s stats drop in the playoffs. Remember the Giants struggles last season in the reg season. Bit stepped it up at the right time. Manning may not have Marino like numbers, but he does have a touch of Montana, Bradshaw and aikman, and those are rings and big play in crunch time. So which would you pick if you couldn’t have both?
Eli Manning is the elite group of QB’s for his generation. 2 SB wins, 5 road wins to get to those SB’s, top of the league year in year out.
Yeah, I do not understand why people continue to dismiss Eli Manning. I don’t think the guy has to prove anything to anyone.
With his play last season, I would say Eli Manning is in the top five category when it comes to the QB position.
MWN, is being a top 5 QB considered elite?
I personally feel that a top 5 QB equates to being elite.
Eli has established himself as a winner. Two SB wins and being in the playoffs hunt almost every year puts him in the top 5.
I’m in the group that that believes that the top ten QBs are in the elite category. When you’re in the top five, you’ve gone from an elite QB to a prototype NFL QB.
It’s all about winning SB’s and Eli has done that.
It’s hard to peg Eli Manning because he is so inconsistent but the is no doubt he has elite luck. He could fall into a latrine and come out holding a Lombardi trophy.
In 2007 he had a mediocre year and quite frankly a bad post-season. The Giants snuck into the playoffs as a wildcard and the defense carried the team to the super bowl. Eli was fairly wretched all game, was about to lose and then threw up a prayer that stuck to Tyree’s helmet.
In 2011 he had a very good year but still the Giants backed into the playoffs with a 9-7 record and the 28th scoring defense in the league. He played dismally in the championship game until Kyle Williams gifted him a miracle. He played poorly in the SB and was about to lose when Brady and Welker failed to connect on a pass they complete 99 times out of 100.
Eli is the human Blarney stone. 100 years from now people will rub his gravestone for luck.
@msclemons:
Wow. I didn’t think it would be possible, but you are even more foolishly wrong about Eli Manning than you are about Alex Smith. At least we now know it’s not just Alex Smith that you hold to a ridiculous standard.
Eli Manning didn’t luck into anything. He earned both of his Super Bowl victories. Moreover, each of your three descriptions of his playoff performances is laughably wrong.
Really Claude? Care to cite some examples of where I am wrong? Or will you just toss out your standard, wordy ad hominem attacks as a pretense of intelligent debate?
Eli Manning was bad in 2007. Period. A 72.9 QBR is below mediocre. He was abysmal in the super bowl until the Tyrees helmet velcro play. Luck.
In 2011 Eli was good but the 9-7 Giants needed the Cowboys to choke to even make the playoffs. The NFCCG was over and lost when Kyle gave them a miracle. There was no way the Giants were marching a full field against the 49ers’ D that day. Luck.
In the super bowl the Giants were losing yet again and the game would have been sealed if Brady completes an easy pass to Welker. Luck.
You keep pretending to be knowledgeable Claude but you rarely use facts. You just spew insults and copypasta and hope no one realizes how hollow you really are.
msc
Note
TB stank in both Super Bowls as well.
So if we are using recent Super Bowl and playoffs as the measuring stick, TB isn’t much better. I don’t see how TB can be elite and Eli not if you look at it like that. Of course since we have no definition of “elite” that term means nothing to me.
Grant, maybe a blog as how to define “elite would be nice.
@msclemons:
You should have followed the first rule of holes: When you’re in one, stop digging.
Eli Manning’s stats for the 2007 playoffs, which you described as “quite frankly a bad post-season,” were:
@TB 20/27 (74.1%), 185 yds (6.85 y/a), 2 TD, 0 int, QB rating = 117.1
@Dal 12/18 (66.7%), 163 yds (9.06 y/a), 2 TD, 0 int, QB rating = 132.4
@GB 21/40 (52.5%), 251 yds (6.28 y/a), 0 TD, 0 int, QB rating = 72.0
vs NE 19/34 (55.9%), 255 yds (7.50 y/a), 2 TD, 1 int, QB rating = 87.3 (Eli’s “wretched” game)
Summary stats for 2007 playoffs:
72/119 (60.5%), 854 yds (7.17) 6TDs, 1 int, QB rating = 95.7
Not only was your description of his post-season performance as “bad” off-base, but your description of his Super Bowl performance against NE as “wretched” was laughably so. NE, which as you will recall went into the Super Bowl undefeated, had the 4th best defense in the NFL that year (both as to points and as to yards). There was nothing wretched about Eli’s performance in that game, and he came up big on the game-winning drive.
Your description of his 2011 playoff performance is similarly wrong. Manning did not play “dismally” in the NFC championship game. While his stats were not great (QB rating of 82.3, which is probably around average), to say he played dismally is to ignore completely how dominant the 49ers’ defense was in that game. (You do know that there are two teams in each game, right?) In addition to a good scheme, great execution, and a crucial half-time adjustment, the 49ers beat the crap out of Manning and gave him very little time to throw. He took that beating and kept coming back for more. When presented with the opportunities Kyle Williams’ mistakes afforded him, Manning came through. There was nothing dismal about his performance.
In the Super Bowl, Manning was 30/40 (75%), 296 yds (7.4 y/a), 1 TD, 0 int for a QB rating of 103.7. To say that he “played poorly” in that game is, as I said, laughably wrong.
Overall in the 2011 playoffs, Manning was 106/163 (65.0%) for 1219 yds (7.48 y/a), 9 TDs, 1 int for a rating of 103.2.
The fact is the man comes through in the playoffs. He is a clutch QB, and your “assessment” of his play borders on the silly.
Are those enough facts for you? I can get some more if you need them.
Ah, you are correct Claude. I forgot that in Alex Smith Land an average of 200 yards per game is considered fantastic. Being carried by the defense is considered “elite”.
In 2007 Eli simply stayed out of the way while the defense won games. Until the Super Bowl when he got lucky with the most amazing catch in SB history. He was a lucky game manager.
You point out the the Patriots had a good defense in 2007 but neglect to mention they had the 2nd worst pass defense in the league in 2011. And yet the Giants were still losing when Brady gaffed that throw. Once again, Eli got lucky.
Being a lucky game manager does not equal greatness in my book. I guess I haven’t lowered my expectations enough.
@msclemons:
I see that you are still digging that hole. You asked for facts. I gave them to you. The facts refute your thesis, so you dismiss them as unimportant. And to call Eli Manning a “lucky game manager” demonstrates either how little you understand the game or how unwilling you are to admit that you were wrong.
But, go ahead and keep digging. It’s been effective so far.
Please excuse me for borrowing your quote, but I think it applies much more to you than to me. In fact, it pretty much describes just about every comment you make on this blog:
You keep pretending to be knowledgeable, but you rarely use facts. You just spew insults … and hope no one realizes how hollow you really are.
claude
Nowhere near md’s statement:
The reason the Niners defense lost those leads is because they weren’t large enough.
Classic!
Thanks for the respectful post, 19. We pretty much agree around here…to BE the best, you have to BEAT the best, and your Pats certainly qualify. You’re right; the regular season game should be outstanding, assuming both our teams can avoid injuries, and I couldn’t imagine anything sweeter than meeting the Pats in the SB this year. Good luck to your guys, and GO NINERS!
*in*
Crabtree has not been a bust. His career numbers (40 starts, 175 catches, 2,240 yards, 12 touchdowns) through three seasons compare favorably with those of such illustrious wideouts as Michael Irvin and Cris Carter-Press Dem……..
Read that and think Ds. No sense in hating on Crabtree. With better qb play this season he will have a monster year. He’s finally healthy. Watch out NFL
I agree MD. He hasn’t been a probowl level player, but he hasn’t been a bust either. I really think missing the preseason every year he’s been in the league has set Crabs back and has had him playing catchup throughout the season. If he can stay healthy and get the reps in, he could have a big season.
Funny ds….Because the rest of this article said the same thing I did. Once again, your way of thinking is in the minority, but we all know you love being the beaten down underdog. Again……If the Offense could have built bigger leads you couldnt blame our top ranked defense for “blowing”…’LEADS”. LMAO!!!! Im willing to bet the majority of fans on here with brains would say the “TEAM” doesnt need improvement, but the PASSING game does. Im sorry ds but who was at the top of the league again?… Defense or our passing attack? Simple question
I think he will Rocket. The fact that he has serious comp now and Smith will be a lot better, and there are more weapons to take the pressure off, He will finally be the guy I cheered for on draft day. This is going to be the season that Smith and Crabtree shake the “bust” label for good. GET THAT ONELAME? WOOOOOO Cant wait
“BTW, looking forward to MC having a career year. All arrows up!!”
Dam* people, the 9ers were 13 – 3 last year NOT 3 – 13!! What is all of this negative vibe on here? They are a playoff team – MC, AS, FG, VD, RM, MM, LJ, AJJ, etc, will all have outstanding years! Let’s go…
You’re right Hof, but saying our defense didnt carry the bulk of the glory last year is downright insulting. Cant let Smith fans like ds take ANY credit away from this defense for the sake of Alex Smith or ANY other single player. NOT ON MY WATCH!!!! lol
md
I already answered that question.
Really son. Learn to read before you make yourself more the fool that you are. I even told you the time of the post to read.
“With better qb play this season he will have a monster year.”
Should have read as
“With better team play this season he will have a monster year.”
Fixed it for you.
Elite or not elite it’s all debatable. In the 1980s there was DMarino and JMo. A few others were very good but not elite – BEsiason (81.1), JKelly (84.4), PSimms, etc. It’s interesting that JElway is elite with a career 79.9 rating. I mentioned PSimms – his career rating is 78.5. A few months ago when the discussion was QB ratings I added JNamath to the mix. Now some would say he was elite with one of the strongest arms and quick releases the game has every seen (before Marino) and his career QB rating was 65.5.
Taking a look at the current QB’s, I’d say TBrady (96.4) and PManning (94.9) are elite. Brees (94) is close and EManning (82.1) is just behind but needs more than 2 years of elite stats. BRoeth (92.1) could be the next elite QB, but give him a couple of more years to secure that position. Any other QB’s are too young or early in their careers to have that status. We often discuss elite QB’s, but they aren’t a commodity they are a luxury. A QB can have elite stats for one season, but that doesn’t make them elite. EManning is in that cateogory. It’s not a one year achievement. Being an elite QB takes time and should be viewed over the span of a career. There are very few that ever make it to elite status in their respective era. Maybe 2-3 at best. Currently it is PManning and TBrady with Brees on the fringe.
Hof
I agree with you on what you just said, I want to add that Rodgers is on his way to that status. Being elite is not a generational thing, you might be the best during your playing career but that doesnt mean your elite. You can bring up all the stats you want but the most important thing is the eye test. Montana, Marino, Brady, P Manning they are elite, you dont have to check stats, just watching them play football tells you that.
Under, agree. My point was a QB can have elite stats one year but not be an elite QB. Some pass the elite eye test and others are good and will win SB’s but aren’t in the same category as JM, PM, DM, and TB. The sad truth is every team wants an elite QB but only a very few come along in each era.
Eli Manning is elite. Hofer you bring up Montana, who we all in this area consider clutch. Eli has outdone Montana by leading his team from behind not once, but twice to win the biggest game in football. Add that to the path he has taken his team thru to get to those SB’s and no other QB this generation has done that more than once.
Hammer…….Montana only had one chance at that though. I would count the catch as a game pretty damn close to the Superbowl. It wasnt Montanas fault he destroyed two of the Greatest qb in the Superbowl. lol
J.Montana, J.Unitas, and Otto Graham can be considered Legends. Bart Starr also deserves some recognition as well.
Not every elite QB can be considered a Legend. D.Marino, Dan Foutes, Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly can be described as elite, but certainly not Legendary.
“Eli Manning is elite.”
Jack, I think he is on his way. He hasn’t consistently achieved a 90+ rating through at least 5+ years. He has been clutch in the playoffs and SB but some of that can be attributed to his WR’s making outstanding catches. Like I stated and will reiterate, 82.1 is not elite. One year of elite stats doesn’t make a QB elite.
Good point md. He was too dominant at times in the postseason ; )
Hofer,
I can appreciate your opinion. I just feel that as one of only 3 QB’s playing today to have won multiple SB’s he is being short changed in the elite conversation.
@ Jack “Eli has outdone Montana by leading his team from behind not once, but twice to win the biggest game in football.”
Can’t deny that he’s a very good QB but without 2 great catches( by Tyree then Manningham) in those 2 SB games he wouldn’t be in the elite discussion but rather the Jim Kelly category (multiple SBs with no wins).
I agree with some of what you wrote Hoff. I do not think the ESPN made up QBR sets the bar for elite. Game situations are what matter IMO. Especially BIG game situations. Elite qb’s have that clutch “get it done” swagger to them. Stats are important, but they arent the most important. Eli won 2 Superbowls, without the weapons Brady, or Brees had. With Fantasy Football, and the highlights, and certain player hype channels like ESPN like to use, to deem who THEY call “Elite”. Qb’s should be measured by the fans and what they see on the field. The whole game, the whole career. Its easy for some youngsters to get caught up in the hype that the media builds. A true fan and Football fan know what elite is. Just imagine without the media Tim Tebow would be unknown by many. Good take Hoff, except the QBR. =-) lol
Thanks MD – but the QBR has holes in it like sacks. There is not way to differentiate a 2.5 sec sack versus a 4 second sack – it shouldn’t all be on the QB. I’m using the std QB rating since it still compares with QB’s of the JMO and DMarino era. Like I stated with the 1st line of my comment, it’s debatable.
ESPN’s QBR is better than the traditional QBR but not by much. Too much blame on the QB for sacks and the “clutch” measurement is a bit ridiculous.
Bill Walsh (and Paul Brown) destroyed the traditional QBR. It relies too heavily on completion percentage so WCO QBs look a lot better. The QBR was invented in an era where completing a pass was an astounding event rather than a normal play.
I prefer Pro Football Reference’ ANY/A rating. It’s a very straightforward look at what happens on average when a QB drops back to pass.
QBR is not the only indicator of being elite. While the list of elite is not a very long list, there is a very long list of good to very good QB’s.
Phil Simms was good to very good. He was tough, gritty, determined. Same for Jim Kelly. You can’t get to a superbowl 4 times and not be close to elite.
Broadway Joe was average. Trust me I know average I’ve watched it for the last 7 years. If a QB is good, very good or great you don’t have to look at the career body of work to determine that. It shows in spurts the first couple of years and by the 3rd year you get a very good indication as to what you have.
The pro Alex crowd does not want to hear this because they are in denial….. They remind me of the folks that continue to search the skies for Aliens. No proof but they believe.
Elway great/elite. , Aikman very good, Theisman very good. Ben Roth, good to very good. , Eli Manning good to very good. Romo good / occasionally very good. Drew Brees elite. Warren Moor very good. Dan Fouts very good. Fran Tarkenton Good. Bob Greasie good not great, not elite even though he owns the only perfect season ever. Bradshaw good. Rivers very good, Farve very good.
Aaron Rogers Elite. Kurt Warner Elite, Marino Elite, Montana Elite, Payton Manning Elite, Steve Young Elite, Tom Brady Elite, Drew Brees Elite.
Popular theory on this site that if you get a lot of wins or if you get to the SuperBowl you are a very good QB or you are responsible for getting there.
Here is a list of QB’s that have gotten their teams to the superbowl that IMO are scrubs. They are average at best.
Jim Plunket, Trent Dilf, Rex Grossman, Neil O’Donnel, Jim McMahon, Mark Rypen. There are more, these are just examples.
Here is hoping that our average game manager steps it up this year. On paper we sure do have a lot of weapons. Lets hope he learns to use them.
@Bay
Well said. The question is: can you teach an old horse new tricks? JH has his pony now. Let’s see if he can teach this 4-trick pony more tricks.
Bay, agree with most of the QB’s you’ve mentioned – seems we’re mostly in sync especially relating to the main subject, EManning. Good to very good is about right.
I often see the term “true fan” or “real fan” bandied about here when you lot are arguing about this or that. It makes me curious, would anyone be so kind as to properly define in their opinion what makes a “true fan” I mean someone must know, for to use such a phrase does suggest that the user considers himself/herself to be one.
IMO A true fan watches, cheers, and gets angry with emotion. A true/real fan wants whats best for the team, whether it being a bad coach or player gone. And wanting a good player that helps the team win to STAY..”Free agency” Cheering them to win through thick or thin, boooing when your not pleased with their play. Those are true emotions that a real/true fan cant hide. A true fan is attending every home game. “if possible” when they suck or when they’re winning. A true fan sports the mechandise EVERY year. A true/real fan lives and breathes 49er Football. And last but not least……..A REAL 49ER FAN DOESNT PUT DOWN OTHER PLAYERS, COACHES GM, F.O FOR THE SAKE OF 1 PLAYER. Thats my take on fanhood. Now who wants whats best for the team, and NOT 1 player? You all decide. SHOW ME OR BEAT IT! That goes for ANY player
+1
There will not and can not be a consensus as to what that means. By definition! Some will agree with some and others with others in the end it is all just mere speculation, BS and subjective opinions.
For example: a will say X is what is best for the team while b Says Y is best. So a looks at b as is he is less of a fan.
So when some one says: real fan or true fan what they actually mean is “anyone that does not agree with me is not a true/real fan”.
The best course of action is to just take everyone’s word for it (as long as they are not trolling)
*as if he is less of a fan
A true fan is called a ‘hater’ by some people on this blog
lol Bingo Nick!
Absolutely disagree! A true Niners fan is a bleeder of red and gold that doesn’t give a rat’s $@# about whether someone calls him/her a Smither or a hater.
Sorry Tree, but I borrowed your post to give my definition.
A true fan bleeds Red and Gold….
A true fan is one who alters their life for their team.
Good point undercenter.
But that could be subjective as well.
Let’s your theory on a bigger graph.
Who was a more dedicated 49er Jerry Rice or Ronnie Lott?
Rice would likely say he was because of his intense off season training and Ronnie would say he was because of sacrificing a portion of his finger.
It’s hard to define because I’m sure everyone has their own reason that makes them a true fan. And who are we to judge?
I am certainly not one to judge who isnt a fan. I do think that anyone who comes to this blog routinely, has to be a fan, because some of the stuff that is written here is classic . Sometimes it almost hurts to read it. Now thats fan loyalty.
Or Press Democrat loyalty.
True
Seems as if Mr. Goldson is starring in his own sequel this summer. The 49ers offer a fair deal, he declines and courts a few suitors. Turns out he overvalued himself and comes back to 4949 with his swagg between his legs. He signs, but for a considerable amount less than was orignally offered. Ouch!
I hope he signs, but c’mon maan! Mr. Goldson needs to be prudent. Does he really think another team will pay him 8million a year? Sequels suck…
Let’s play a new game called, “Where in the world is Grant Cohn?”
The most creative response wins.
Hammertime – I’m still waiting for Grant to approve/reject a post I sent 2 days ago. It’s still awaiting moderation.
Where’s the courtesy notification from Grant, when he’s going to be away for long?
I can’t remember E. Branch leaving us hanging like that.
Crab
If Grant has not been at the practice sessions watching the team because of the AD stuff, that is a problem.
Can’t be “Inside the “Niners” without being allowed access to be inside. The last time I know when he was at practice Grant was escorted out.
Tip
Quick way around the moderation thing is to copy/paste the non-link part of your post in your first post, then provide the link itself in a separate post.
Or type http://www.whatever as www(dot)whatever and everybody can figure it out. Of course if it is material that is bad/mean, Grant should ban whomever does that trick.
DS – Thanks
Crab,
Grant is probably working on his next great masterpiece that will ooze with controversy and exceed those 1000 comments from the Smith v Newton post.
The 49ers are now down to 4-1 in Vegas to win the Super Bowl.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/06/04/betting-public-buying-into-niners
They’re getting the best odds of any team in the NFL.
Grant escorted out of camp?
Whew, Grant is a baaaad mahma jama! Good to have a rebel who’s not afraid to shake things up a little. I would hope to have him back at camp, because I like to hear his take.
But if he’s banned, I’ll just have to hear from the other vanilla reporters. Harbaugh will also give daily reports on the pulse of camp. No big deal.
Give ‘em h#*@ Grant!
AES, is that a rumor or fact? (about Grant being escorted out of camp)
I don’t know Nickrow, I was just doing a follow up on DS’ 3:15 post.
Nick,
Grant never reported that he was escorted out of camp. It appears that DS might be trying to rewrite history again, unless it has a different source.
I never said anything about being escorted out of camp. I said practice field.
And since that point (few weeks now) Grant has not written any articles on his daily observations of the players in practice.
Look at my post again guys. I never said the word “camp”
June 4, 2012 at 3:15 pm
And the longer this goes on, the more I wonder what has happened. SFGATE has new practice observations nearly every day.
If Grant has been doing anything showing he’s been at the practice facility since the AD thing, please point it out to me. Because my interpration of what has been happnening is that he has not spoken to/attended Niners practices.
DS
I have noticed the same since the AD thing.
Camp/Field, you’re still off DS. Grant never mentioned being escorted anywhere.
What he said was that he was told by a PR person there was no speaking with players during practice so he backed off and walked away.
Rumors continue to run rampant as the disappearance of Grant Cohn, the once promising new 49erInsider Reporter turned rogue, has not been heard from since his last visit to 4949…
A highly secret source reports that investigators first searched the room of Anthony Davis. Execpt for a couple of printed hard copies of twitter messages, no damaging evidence was found (lol).
Authorities have begun searching along the popular fishing rivers in Mexico. They believe the promising young reporter may have been sent there after several Coby Fleener draft posts were proven false.
In related news, several agents have confiscated the laptop and PC of one particular commentor on his blog, known simply as Spitblood.
This is what can happen when you get your S### together! Before and after pics.
BEFORE: http://www.chicagonow.com/second-city-sports-guy/files/2012/04/tom_brady_nfl_draft_combine_2000-e1335583834950.jpg
AFTER: http://thebostonjam.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/tom-brady-stetson.jpg?w=432&h=324
(lol) Crab! +10
Hilarious
Priceless!
Well DS, you never said ‘field’ either.
All good!