Comments on: Ranking the Niners best players: Nos. 21-25

By: Marion

Marion — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:35:59 +0000

In Fact…. If you are going to use the logic on this thread, then Jennings should be number 2 or 3 on our team. He is the best in the NFL at his position and only Willis and (Justin) Smith can enter that argument.

By: Marion

Marion — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:30:37 +0000

Even if Smith was the worst starting QB in the league. You cant rank a long snapper as a better football player. The simple fact that a guy plays QB in the NFL makes him a better football player than a long snapper. That is the point. If we are talking about best at their position, (aka gunners and long snappers) then why aren’t we talking about the best bench warmers? I know that what I am saying now sounds ridiculous, but it is simply evidence of how pathetic this blog post was.

By: bayareafanatic

bayareafanatic — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:13:00 +0000

Come on Rocket, while you are correct that Smith improved in other categories besides his turnovers, those improvements were so slight that they are not worth mentioning as improvements. Basically he was the same player that he was the last six games from last year.
He’s made it a priority to not turn the ball over. Now he has to improve his production, third down conversions and his scoring. I have news for you, it isn’t his mechanics that is holding him back. It’s what’s between his ears that is doing it…..

By: DS94everXev

DS94everXev — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:21:11 +0000

Nice points rocket.

But gotta disagree with you on your stance that the D was the best unit on the team. As you pointed out, the D was near the top, but not the top in several categories.

Our ST on the other hand were the best. We were (top 2 now) best Punter (Lee), kicker (Akers), Punt Returner (Ginn). No team came remotely close to ours in terms of our ST. Other teams were closer to our team defensively. Thus the ST were the best unit.

By: DS94everXev

DS94everXev — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:10:52 +0000

@Adam707

AS won’t make the Pro Bowl. Who cares.

AS will make the Super Bowl. Much more exclusive than the Pro Bowl is anyways.

By: DS94everXev

DS94everXev — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:09:04 +0000

@JDilla

Who cares what the stats are? Point is Spillman was awesome. Nobody was better at his position than Spillman was with the Niners. Constanzo is not in Spillman’s league. If he were, the Niners would have resigned him, like they did Spillman.

The D’s success largely stemmed from Lee’s great punts. And those punts don’t mean a thing if the returner gets a nice return. The field position game is won/lost on tackling the returner. The gunner is the one guy who can consistently get down the field and tackle the returner after a minimal gain (less than 5 yards). That means a lot if the punt is 50+. And Spillman made sure that returner didn’t get anything. pinning the opposing offense back, allowing the D to shut down the offense, and with our great returner, set up the next Niner possession a good 10-20 yards closer to the endzone. Making it easier for them to get into scoring range.

By: DS94everXev

DS94everXev — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:58:04 +0000

Grant

No doubt that the Niners ST was the one area where they had a huge advantage against their opponents last year. Much more so than on offense or even the defense. ST was the key to the Niners being as good as they were. As an aside, it just sucks that the ST stank in the Title game and ended up being the area most responsible for the loss.

I have no problem putting 4 ST’s guys on the top 10 or 15. They are:
1. Spillman
2. Akers
3 Lee
4. Jennings

But come on now. AS not in the top 10 on the team? Seriously? 6 Comeback wins aren’t enough for you? The NO Saint game throwing for 3 TD/Rushing for 1 TD and throwing no Int’s, something few QB’s have ever done in a game that matters (playoff) should get some kind of bonus. No average player does that. Think of all the great QB’s in the NFL and their playoff games, and for AS to do that in his first playoff game is AWESOME. As for the Title game, AS played better in that game than Brady did in the Super Bowl. How bad could he have been?

Whether you want to admit it or not, the QB is the leader on an NFL team. AS is the QB. To have so many comebacks requires great leadership. Again, that falls on AS more so than any other player. That means top 10. Easily.

By: ribico

ribico — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 16:42:24 +0000

>>GC: Yes, I did define the criteria.

And how many times are you going to define and redefine it?

>>GC: Andy Lee does one thing very well. Carlos Rogers, Ahmad Brooks and Ray McDonald are more versatile. They each play two positions at a high level.

One set of rules for some players. Another set for others. Wow, Grant… I hate to agree with the nitpickers, but terribly amateurish.

By: ribico

ribico — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 16:35:15 +0000

>>He’s much more excellent at his job than Alex Smith is at playing quarterback.

Didn’t I read some comment from you on an earlier page that a player was ranked lower because he only had one job to do?

So what is it, GC? A maniac on SP gets ranked higher than the player playing the complex position of QB? Sheesh… hating can’t be any more obvious.

By: Ninermd

Ninermd — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:28:20 +0000

Funny Claude, because I knew its been arounf for decades. I say media made up, because the average dummy looks at it and measures the skills of a QB. Which it provides NO details of how good they really are in situational and game time decisions. If that “stat” told everything. Smith wouldnt of been coming back from Miami or leaving SF. Do you get it now Claude. Like I said dispute the FACT that Smith was bad at 3rd% and Redzone% and led a below average passing attack. 27TH Claude. QBR means squat. Is Romo a superbowl winner? Sh***** he cant win a playoff game. And yet he’s always up there with the old QBR. That stat is a JOKE! Funny that Claude!