SANTA CLARA — Despite the fact that Jim Harbaugh called A.J. Jenkins an outstanding football player before today’s practice, Jenkins was not outstanding today in practice. He struggled in the one-on-one press coverage drill against Perrish Cox and Deante Purvis. On Jenkins’ first rep, he ran deep but he forgot to look for the pass, so it dropped 10 yards away from him. On his second rep he caught a back shoulder pass with Cox all over him, and on this third rep he dropped a back shoulder pass. He caught only one more pass the rest of practice.
Here’s what Jenkins said about his performance: “It’s never as good as (it looks) on film, it’s never as bad as (it looks) on film. I’m going to look on film today, but Perrish Cox is a great DB, very good competition.”
Undrafted rookie wide receiver Brian Tyms also had a rough day. During a special teams drill he got tangled up with sixth-round pick Trenton Robinson and threw him to the ground. Harbaugh instantly reprimanded Tyms and told him to leave practice. Tyms never returned to the field, but he lifted weights and spoke with Harbaugh for almost 10 minutes after practice.
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Sounds like Harbaugh was telling stories again…
No actually it sounds like the Media hasn’t a CLUE
Which is Par for the course.
I would trust a word of 13-3 coach than someone typing crap all day long !
“Michael Crabtree has the best hands of any receiver I’ve ever seen.”
“@AnthonyDavis76 What’s the over/under on your career, AD?” – Grant Cohn
Yea, I think I’ll listen to the Coach instead.
Did Grant really ask AD that? If so, good on Grant. Anthony Davis has been a flop so far and this is his make-or-break year. He needs to either learn to play or hit the waiver wire.
@msclemson67 Are you serious about AD? You have to be joking.
There once was a Niner receiver back in the ’80′s who was a #1 draft pick, had a horrible training camp and was considered a bust after his first few games where he dropped passes and looked lost. Then in a game against the Rams, lit it up with over 200 yards receiving and never looked back. Yea, let’s bury a rookie after the first few days of practice. I say we cut him now. I mean, all you “experts” must be right.
There was another 49ers player in the 90′s who had a terrible rookie year and ended up being a terrible receiver. J.J. Stokes.
Then there was a player in the 00′s who had a terrible rookie year and ended up being terrible. Rashaun Woods.
Occasionally the ugly duckling turns out to be a swan. More often it just turns out to be an ugly duck.
How about in 1997 when they drafted a qb 26th overall and he looked terrible the first year. He ended up being terrible. Jim Druckenmiller.
or in 2002 when they picked up Mike Rumph.
I agree with you msclemons67
@msclemons67….
+1, I agree with you, you’re speaking truth to power brother.
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I think you are missing the point being made here. The big difference between the NFL today and the NFL of the 80s that everyone keeps refering to is that college football has come leaps and bounds. These college players are expected to make the leap and be productive year one in the NFL. i.e. Roethlisberger, Corey Dillon, Matt Ryan, Nate Soldier, Aldon Smith, Randall Cobb, A.J. Green, Julio Jones, Ryan Kerrigan, just to name a few.
So the fact that the 49ers used a first round pick means that the organization, the coaching staff, and the NFL as a whole expect production.
The 80s are gone. You can’t hold a team together for 5+ years. It is a new team every 2 to 3 years now and that means you can’t afford to wait for a 1st rounder to blossom.
That is why the critics are on A.J. Jenkins early. The NFL is a what have you done for me today league, not what do we hope you’ll be.
Medic
While I agree with you on the evolution of college football and the increased expectations placed on rookies, the field is not level when it comes to teams.
A team like the 9ers who was one play away from the SB shouldnt expect big contributions from a rookie picked 30th because they already have more proven players at the position. AJJ was the 4th WR picked behind blackmon (hows that workin out) floyd and Wright. No WR picked in the draft this year is should be better than MC RM and MM so even if we had blackmon or Floys they would at best be 3-4 rec on our team.
By contrast Gordon who CLE picked in the suplemental draft (2nd rd) will probably start for the browns.
Rookies should strugle to find time on good teams. Thats why they are good teams, because they have good players who wont loose their spot to a 1st year player. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but if u look around to elite teams (NE PIT GB) rookies generaly dont make a huge impact (gronk +hernandez aside)
I mean Aldon Smith (who should have won DROY) didnt start for us and he was a beast
Therefore Rashaun Woods should also be a HOFer, and for that matter, me too if I decide to play for the niners, because I will also suck my first year… worry not though, because Jerry Rice became a HOFer, so I will too. WORST logic ever, and is the instant sign of someone who understands nothing about sample size and population correlation statistical analysis.
@old guy
The people here who say FACT and use their stats know nothing about the things you brought up. Might want to add something about populations you can actually compare and get meaningful data from.
WAY too many here think you can compare any two populations equally (We are Super Bowl champs if we only picked AR). Sad. Very sad indeed. Variables within populations can vary to the extent that you can’t compare the 2.
At no time during Jerry Rices rookie 1985 season was he considered a bust. Early on Dwight Clark called Rice “the most talented wide receiver” he had ever seen. I watched him in Rocklin and he looked great. Even the casual observer could see that Jerry was exceptional. Yes he struggled a bit, was lost at time and dropped some passes during the season but he was never considered a bust. His rookie struggles are greatly exaggerated 27 years later.
I’m sure AJ knows he needs to work hard to adapt to the great athletes in the NFL. It doesn’t help having the Media like both Cohen’s and Ratto bad mouth guys while sipping wine or a milk shake. Everyone has good and bad days, look at you guys. Ever wonder why people dislike the media more and more? Duh.
Mr. Jenkins is facing adversity. Lets see how he responds before the term bust becomes his epitaph.
In this “want results now” society, I’ll settle for an actual game to be played before applying such a label.
You have a far different take on Sunday’s practice than every other beat writer…
That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking.
Good articles Grant, but you really didn’t give us that much detail. Gotta say you’ve had better articles.
midwest
A bit confusing. I think I get it though.
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/07/day-3-recap-are-you-ready-for-some-thudball.html
There was a player beack in the early 80′s who had a horrible rookie year and ended up being pretty good. His name is Jerry Rice. Anybody ever heard of him. Funny listening to all these knee jerkers talk about Jenkins after 1 padded practice. Talk about clueless.
There was a player in the 90′s that had a horrible start and ended up being a horrible receiver. His name was J.J. Stokes.
For every Jerry Rice there are 10 J.J. Stokes.
Oh yeah. The first day in pads in a rookies first training camp will tell us how his career will unfold. I have faith in Jenkins and a lot of the players the 49ers draft because Baalke and Harbaugh find players who “love” the game. I can’t even fathom calling a guy who hasn’t played a game yet, J.J. Stokes. Ridiculous. I’m not saying people can’t say the rookie had a rough day but I do find it strange that Grant is so eager to write anything negative about the guy and it wouldn’t be such a problem if he hadn’t cried so much about the Niners drafting him over his draft crush Fleener.
If you hadn’t spent the first 30 minutes after our pick on draft day pissing in your pampers abut the 49ers drafting Jenkins it might be easier to read your disparaging remarks and not automatically assume it’s because it’s not the guy you wanted us to draft.
Every other bay area reporter had essentially the same “disparaging” remarks about Jenkins. He had a crappy day right after Harbaugh called him “outstanding”. The entire bay area press is having a field day with this – Grant was actually a bit restrained compared to others.
But nice try at trolling.
^^ Looks like someone’s on the G. Cohn Payroll
No, actually Grant was the first and ESPN and other sources quoted him. Unfortunately, most reporters no longer do their own homework and just regurgitate information. Grant created a unnecessary perception of a player and others piled on. Problem is, Grant has done it in such a vindictive way…like he relishes the fact the Jenkins has had normal rookie struggles (see Jerry Rice). In the end, Grant made his own draft day blunder, was called out for it and now he wants to prove himself right. Just like a 5 year old (or 25 year old) would do. This article just proves my point even more…it’s like, “hey Grant, just let it go”.
@ DaNiners
Yes, the way some members of the national media regurgitated the end-of-ota story was enlightening on how little fact checking was used. One hack from a “respected” source ran it about 2 weeks later as though it were established fact. They didn’t even faithfully report what Grant said. GC said he looked no better than the udfa’s. The story came out AJ is a bust.
I was able to permanently discount a number of writers and sources. ESPN? Well, we know what we get. Grant? I detect some personal bias in his subjective views and I try to factor it in to what I read, but he’s Homie, so I recognize what I’m getting.
I’ve said before that taking the adversarial approach with coaches/players/team is an “interesting” approach for one covering said team.
The point that AJ didn’t have a great day right after Harb’s call-out is an amusing twist that hasn’t yet shown-up Grant or any other Jenkins critic.
BTW, I don’t think Grant was the only writer targeted by Harbaugh by any means.
Every other bay area reporter had essentially the same “disparaging” remarks about Jenkins.
They did? Matt Maiocco didn’t, at least not on his blog. Eric Branch didn’t, at least not on his blog. Cam Inman wrote “Jenkins didn’t do anything spectacular, nor anything egregious.”
Barrows noted that Jenkins ” did ok at getting off the line of scrimmage but he only hauled in one of the three passes. On his one reception, he absorbed a big shot from Cox early and also jostled with him on the sideline before turning back and catching the ball.”
No one else was as negative as Grant. Whether that’s because (a) the other guys are professional journalists; (b) none of the other guys held his breath, stomped his feet, and gave the 49ers an “F’ for the draft pick; or (c) only Grant will tell the truth, you will have to decide for yourselves.
Settle down Hairy. Brotha was referring to his struggles during the offseason, not yesterday, and he is correct, every beat writer did say that Jenkins was struggling.
@Corky:
I’ll make you a deal. I will settle down as soon as you learn to read at at least the fifth grade level. My comment was directed to msclemons, not brotha. You see the part where I quoted text from msclemons’ comment? That’s a pretty strong hint that I was responding to him.
I don’t know who appointed you blog police such that you feel compelled to weigh in and settle every disagreement, but you’re not very good at it.
Hairy, even if you were responding to msc you are still wrong.
@Corky:
Now that my comment has been explained to you, you are still convinced it’s wrong? Care to explain how? Given that you’re one of the Fleener Twins and that you have been wrong on a lot of your recent criticisms, I hope you’ll understand if I ask for more than just your word on it.
BTW, I also believe msclemons is perfectly capable of defending himself, but since you want to pry, feel free. Show me where “every other bay area reporter” disparaged Jenkins’ performance yesterday and explain how Grant’s comments were more restrained than the others. I laid out what Barrows and Inman wrote. Maiocco and Branch didn’t offer an evaluation. So, where is the disparagement?
I’ve read numerous takes on the practice yesterday and Grant’s is easily the most negative review on Jenkins. However I don’t really care. It’s Grants opinion and he’s entitled to it. If I read the same thoughts from every writer I get bored. Part of the appeal in reading different blogs/articles is the personal viewpoint of the individual regarding the same event.
Hairy Sack,
You are misunderstanding the first part of msc’s response to Stryker. The disparaging remarks that msc is referring to came up during the offseason workouts, not yesterday, and came from all of the reporters, including Maiocco.
Jack,
You need to read Msc’s post again. He is clearly referring to yesterdays practice and noting that Jenkins had a bad day after Harbaugh had built him up earlier that morning.
I know you enjoy arguing but you are off target on this one.
If you say so Rocket. I have too much respect for your opinions to debate with you on this one.
@Corky:
Wow. You cannot stop digging that hole, can you?
Here is what msclemons wrote in response to Stryker’s complaint about Grant’s disparaging remarks regarding yesterday’s practice:
Every other bay area reporter had essentially the same “disparaging” remarks about Jenkins. He had a crappy day right after Harbaugh called him “outstanding”. (Emphasis added)
Tell me again how that doesn’t refer to remarks that came up yesterday about Jenkins’ practice performance yesterday?
I’d tell you to quit while you’re behind, but I think you are so far behind that you can’t hear me.
Here is the whole article from Eric Branch everybody. Point out where Eric says Jenkins sucks and disparging remarks in it for me. You can’t, because he didn’t.
When you see who is the one continuing his insistence that Eric did, it is no shock.
“A first-round pick who was routinely booed during his seven seasons with the Bears, 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh has staunchly supported those players who share his background.
Quarterback Alex Smith, the No. 1 pick in the 2005 draft who had been a Bay Area whipping boy throughout his career, has been deemed “elite” and worthy of last year’s Pro Bowl by his head coach.
Wide receiver Michael Crabtree, the No. 10 pick in 2009 whose injury history and so-so production has frustrated fans, has the best hands Harbaugh has ever seen.
On Sunday, it was mildly embattled wide receiver A.J. Jenkins’ turn to get the Harbaugh I’ve-got-your-back treatment. The No. 30 overall pick in April’s draft, Jenkins has drawn some less-than-flattering reviews after reporting to the 49ers’ first rookie minicamp admittedly out of shape and then flashing inconsistent hands during offseason workouts.
On Sunday, two hours before San Francisco’s first padded practice of training camp, Harbaugh came out swinging against Jenkins’ detractors. Harbaugh wasn’t scheduled to meet with the media until Monday, but he unexpectedly strode to the podium after offensive coordinator Greg Roman stepped down. Harbaugh’s impassioned defense couldn’t wait.
“A.J. Jenkins was an outstanding football player when he got here,” Harbaugh said. “His progress has been very, very good and exceeded expectations. For those scribes, pundits, so-called experts, who have gone as far to say that he is going to be a bust, should just stop. I recommend that because they are making themselves look more clueless than they already did.
“To go on record, A.J.’s going to be an outstanding football player.”
Harbaugh’s unprompted message was reminiscent of his effort to sway public opinion when it came to the 49ers’ interest in then-free-agent quarterback Peyton Manning this offseason.
In May, Harbaugh took exception with the media’s use of the words “pursuing” and “flirting” in regards to the 49ers and Manning. The proper word: evaluating, he said. The point, of course, was to support Smith, who, Harbaugh said, was always in the 49ers’ plans for 2012.
On Sunday, Harbaugh said Jenkins would be a big part of the 49ers’ future.
“He’s going to be an outstanding receiver,” Harbaugh said. “He already is. He’s going to be good soon, real soon.”
Told after practice about Harbaugh’s comments, Jenkins said he appreciated the support (“That’s good feedback from him,” Jenkins said), but didn’t seem rankled by the scrutiny he has received since the draft.”
“I love criticism,” Jenkins said. “That’s what drives me. It’s no hard feelings. People are going to have what they’ve got to say. … It doesn’t really matter about the outside world and what they say about me. If I thought about their comments so heavily, then I wouldn’t be where I’m at now. So I’m going to keep on going.”
And Harbaugh no doubt will keep on backing his players, who credit him for fostering a tight-knit locker room. Left tackle Joe Staley, a first-round pick in 2007, hasn’t needed Harbaugh to defend him against the slings and arrows of the media, but he knows who will have his back if necessary.
“It starts with the head coach,” Staley said of the team’s unity. “And we love that.”
@rocket:
I appreciate your attempt to mediate and your maturity. Thanks for making the effort.
I hope no one expects or wants Grant to express the same thoughts as other writers, but I think Ted Stryker has a point. Anything negative that Grant writes about AJ Jenkins is going to be viewed through the prism of Grant’s initial reaction to the drafting of Jenkins. It’s the unfortunate, but not unexpected, consequence of his tirade.
No problem Claude. I understand the reluctance to take Grants opinion on Jenkins with anything other than a grain of salt. He put himself out there with the comments after the draft. I was just referring to the fact the personal element of each writer is the only interesting aspect of reading the same reviews.
Whether you like his style or not, Grant takes a different approach to his reporting and he seems to get a lot of views and comments so it must be working.
Grant, you started off with a bang when you got assigned this gig..A fresh young voice. Now as of late I feel as if I’m reading from a columnist from the Bleacher Report and not from an accredited blogger. I’m sorry but now I feel as if you’re just trolling.
I am thrilled Harbaugh went after a hack like yourself. You were the one who first broke the Jenkins sucks story months ago, and the AP picked it up like a bunch of sheep. When Harbaugh made his comments, I knew precisely who he was talking to and I knew you would come back a few days later with a response (this article). Question, were you born when Rice was drafted? Did you witness Rice’s struggles that first year? I did. In the end, this is all about you covering up for a bush league draft day call on Jenkins. Now, you are determined to see him fail. Pretty sure he won’t.
Even if it was one pass, JJ caught twice as many as another recent #1 pick WR. Probably twice as many as that recent #1 pick’s entire training camp career.
@ Rib
JJ? John Jefferson? Or is Josh Johnson learning other positions like Tukuafo & Dobbs?
AJ maybe? Just teasing ya……….
Josh split out wide? That would be an awesome wrinkle! I wouldn’t put anything past JH.
AJ struggled against press coverage…GASP…nobody saw that coming.
The kids first exposure to pads in the NFL and he slightly struggles, doesn’t bomb it, but struggles and hack hammer is there to be the ever so present critic.
Jack tell Neal his rent cheque is due today if he still wants to continue living in my sphincter!
“cheque”
Primer, Are you from Canada or French?
Actually its only American English that refers to the term cheque as “check”.
Most countries including Canada refer to it as cheque.
Sorry Jack, my place of residency or ethnicity should not matter, or are you looking to start playing the race card like Md did on DS or was that your boy toy Neal as well?
I just found it curious is all Primer.
Yeah okay Jack, curious my a$$! Nice try with your sarcastic bull, you dont think people on here know your game and agenda by now? C’mon man!
Your use of cheque made me curious is all. No Agenda. I can appreciate your not wanting to give that out.
Except he didn’t. You ought to read more than half a paragraph of one report before jumping to conclusions.
I guess in Hairy Sacks world catching 1 of 3 passes is not so bad.
And by the way Hairy, those numbers come from Barrows and Inman as well, both of whom were much softer in their descriptions.
Yes, and as Barrows wrote, Jenkins’ problem wasn’t with the press coverage.
As I said Hairy, they were both more gentle in their approach. No worries, it will likely be an up and down road early on with ET.
Corky, it’s not a question of being gentle; it’s a question of paying attention to detail. Barrows expressly wrote that Jenkins didn’t have a problem with the “press” part of press coverage. But, don’t let that throw you; you’ve got an axe to grind.
As I said Hairy, no worries. It is going to take Jenkins a while to get his feet under him. He looked good on Saturday, then struggled on Sunday. Like I said, it will be up and down with him.
ribico says:
July 30, 2012 at 6:28 am
“Even if it was one pass, JJ caught twice as many as another recent #1 pick WR. Probably twice as many as that recent #1 pick’s entire training camp career.”
ribico,
When JJ catches more than 70 passes during the season you may have some credibility. At the moment all you’re having is an emotional withdrawal (lol)!
AES, If AJ has but 175 total after three years, I will be disappointed. If he misses every training camp during his duration I will be disapponted. So far, I’m not :)
ribico,
Not bad numbers in 3 yrs for a QB that throws 20-30 percent less passes than average league QB’. Welcome to DS’ greatest MC hit parade (lol).
@AES
How can you be Mr. All In, and write a post putting down Jenkins?
You could have defended both and insulted none by saying something like:
“Great to see AJ working so hard in TC. When MC recovers, they’ll make quite a pair of threatening WR’s to any opposing defenses!”
See how I didn’t need to insult any player to defend another? Something you as Mr. All In haven’t learned.
Maybe cause he is Mr. King Flip Flopper?
No Prime. What it is, is proof. Proof that AES has nothing left in the tank and lost the argument. So, he lies and insults other players to defend his stance on MC.
Which is fine if he wouldn’t claim to be Mr. All In. Can’t be “All in”, and not include the #1 draft pick of this year amongst the “All”.
JUST LET THE KID PLAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!! Then judge. Remember what a horrible practice player Shaun Hill was? I think he did pretty good when he got on the field. And he has way less talent than AJ Jenkins. We’ll know by the end of the year if A.J.’s got what it takes. Until then, give the kid the benefit of the doubt.
After 3 training camp practices the jury already has a verdict? Quick to judge and sentence a player after 3 tcp s is absured. The ones so quick to critique Jenkins seem to be the same ones that think AS sucks. I too felt it was a reach to get Jenkins, I also thought it was a reach to get Aldon, I was wrong on Aldon and it wont surprise me if I am wrong with Jenkins. Let the guy play at least a year before drawing conclusions. The front office at this point has done a good job with their drafts, let the cards fall where they may and see how Jenkins stacks up before you all draw your conclusions. Jenkins already has done more then Crabs has ever done in training camp, oh thats right Crabs doesnt partake in training camp for whatever reason.
MM sumed it better then I.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/No-need-to-label-Jenkins-at-this-point-i?blockID=748461&feedID=5936
@undercenter
At this point I’ll settle for a game played. And be careful about saying anything about a player who doesn’t defend his teammates.
“If Jenkins is going to be patient, so should everybody else. And that includes Harbaugh.”
My favorite part of that write up, and I too will try to take MM’s advice. Emphasis on try : )
“I’ve seen every receiver — with the possible exception of Michael Crabtree — drop multiple passes during the course of the offseason program and first three days of minicamp.”
Ooooh. ;)
That was a great line too Ribico. Tough to drop a pass when on the sidelines.
Nice post uc. It’s the way things are now. Instant news and instant reactions. Aldon Smith is a clear example of why you don’t judge a draft pick before seeing him on the field. Numerous fans were lamenting that pick last year and the kid turns out to be the second coming of Charles Haley.
I’m not going to question this front office until they give me reason to. So far it hasn’t happened.
Ah poor babies! Someone was critical of your football team? Do you need your blanky? Gonna take your ball and go home? Oh Grant’s a genius when he praises and a troll when he’s critical. Yeah? You guys belong in the kiddie pool.
No, Grant is a troll most of the time. Give him some credit, as it were.
Still, its good to be a 49er fan. We were 13-3 last year. What were the Raiduhs again?
What does this have to do with the teams record? All Grant said was that he didn’t look good YESTERDAY. Not that he sucks, or that the team does. If the guy drops most of the balls in practice does that seem good do you? Or you just don’t want to hear those things because you are more interested in football pornography? Grant is a critical/objective writer. He doesn’t seem to care what the 9′ers do and that’s what’s fun — watching you guys squirm when he calls it like he sees it. Just because other journalists don’t have the sack to be critical when it’s well deserved, doesn’t make Grant a troll or a hack.
@Brian:
Grant is a critical/objective writer. He doesn’t seem to care what the 9′ers do
You haven’t been around here very long, have you? You may want to read Grant’s column(s) after the first day of the draft and then come back to revise your comment.
Harbaugh: “I’m going to track of these names of these so-called experts that are making these comments and there’s going to be an I told you so,” Harbaugh said. “I forsee that happening.”
Why do I get this feeling that Harbaugh has Grant in mind here?
@mood
I do. Sucks for Grant. But how can JH not be referring to him? Eric Branch and Matt have not been nearly so outspoken in their negative views.
It doesn’t suck for Grant. This is exactly what Grant is supposed to be doing — getting his name out. Getting publicity, keeping the coaches and players honest. Calling BS when it’s deserved. It may not be for the faint of heart, but it’s exactly what he’s supposed to be doing.
@Brian:
Please read this before you embarrass yourself any further:
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2012/04/inside-the-49ers/49ers-blow-their-first-round-pick-draft-a-j-jenkins/
Claude I’m well aware of the article. I’m just not sure what your point is. Why is it wrong to have a well formed opinion and put your name next to it? As far as I can tell, the guy dropped a bunch of balls yesterday? That’s a fact. It doesn’t make Grant a troll just because he previously predicted that this pick might not be the best. Maybe AJ will go on to be a great player. But he did drop a bunch of balls yesterday… How am I embarrassing myself again?
Brian
Maybe you should be around for a little while before writing your 1:13 post.
Grant has not made some smart choices in the offseason regarding the manner in which he criticizes Niner players and FO decisions. If you have not seen (reading is not sufficient) JH talk about his defense of Jenkins, JH is pissed off big time.
@Brian
“Why is it wrong to have a well formed opinion and put your name next to it?”
It isn’t. But there is a manner in which you can do it which isn’t like how Grant did it. Saying they blew the pick mere seconds afterwards is not the best thing.
Brian in Oakland,
Pay no attention to Mr Balls. Your comments were spot on.
Yes. JH is pissed. He’s pissed that someone would challenge his judgement about his pick. He’s doesn’t give a rat about poor AJ Jenkins, who may or may not be great , but who dropped a bunch of balls yesterday. How come you guys don’t get that this is about JH’s ego and not AJ? Why is JH taking time to get on the media if they don’t matter? Good for Grant for getting in his head. Rightly so. I grew up adoring the 9′ers. Was stoked to see 13-3 last year, but I’m not about to say that the 9′ers or JH are perfect or always in the right because they had a good record last year. That type of mentality is for Koolaid drinkers. In fact JH is often egomanical and childish in his dealings with the media. I wonder what that says about his coaching… maybe they would have an even better shot at the SB if he could tame his ego a bit.
Brain in Oaklan, throughout the 13-3 season and stints at Stanford, Oakland, and SDSU would you say Harbaughs ego played a factor in the teams failure?
@Brian:
If you are well aware of the article, then why did you bother to write “Grant is a critical/objective writer. He doesn’t seem to care what the 9′ers do”? Both of those statements are belied by his draft day diatribe.
The fact that you already knew Grant was on record with a intense, subjective dislike for Jenkins and still referred to him as a “critical/objective writer” who “doesn’t care what the 9′ers do” is how you embarrassed yourself.
Also, do you typically characterize two drops as dropping “a bunch of balls” or is it only when you are trying to support a flimsy position?
@Jack:
Be careful, or Brian is going to steal your job polishing Grant’s car.
I’m not trying to say that JH isn’t good. I’m trying to say that he’s a bit of jerk. It’s one thing to say who cares he wins. I get it, but maybe he’d win more if he wasn’t. Also I find the human side of it interesting. I’m amused that he gets into it with reporters time and again when they are critical (often rightly so). Instead of disagreeing with their opinions, he calls them names and says “they don’t matter”, when clearly they do. I find it fun. And I’m a little amazed that that you guys don’t see it the way I do at least a little… Maybe you are in too deep?
Brian
JH went out on a limb for AS. And AS repaid him in kind.
JH was an actual player. Some coaches were never NFL players. Most weren’t QB’s. And even still, most weren’t in the league for as long as JH was. On top of that, JH knows very well what it is like to be slammed by the media in his home. All things that AS has been thru. All things that JH wouldn’t allow to occur with him as HC.
JH is not here for the media. JH is here for his players. JH says stuff about team and unity. If JH didn’t do what JH does (what you call childish) and support his players in public and in response to reporters/”experts” and lets them get away with a bunch of crap written about them and not come to their aid, then JH is full of crap talking about team unity. The players would figure it out pretty quickly.
JH has made his stance and philosophy clear. JH has not wavered from that stance. JH led this team to 13-3 , and within an OT from the Super Bowl. I think JH’s coaching philosophy is perfectly dead on with this team.
Don’t complain about him being childish. What you call childish got this team to be the most complete unified team last year. And that says something, because just before, we were a discombobulated mess.
@Claude. I don’t think Grant cares about polished cars. And this little rant I’m on isn’t about him. It’s much more about you and other posters here. You guys are a little too predictable with your comments: you love praise and hate criticism. Why not try a little harder to add value?
Brian,
Harbaugh’s response has nothing to do with his ego or his insecurity over a draft pick. Harbaugh protects his players period. He has done it repeatedly and the players love him for it.
There’s no doubt he doesn’t like dealing with the media, and as a fan I wish he’d be a little more insightful, but that is one of the things that makes him successful. He has an “us against the world” approach to things for his team and they have bought into that at every level he’s Coached.
Crazy? More like Crazy like a Fox.
@DS You’re right. JH is sensitive about his pick and his player and he feels compelled to defend him. Certainly points to Grant having a clue. Not the opposite. Sorry it’s tough for fans to hear.
@Brian:
No, this seems to be about your inability to read criticism of Grant, no matter how justified. Given Grant’s draft day tirade, anything he writes about Jenkins is going to be suspect, at least until Grant displays some objectivity on the subject. Given that his latest report is more negative than any other local writer, we are left with a choice: Either (a) Grant still lets his resentment regarding the drafting of Jenkins color his reporting or (b) Grant is the only writer in the bay area brave enough to tell the truth.
If you really think we are in situation (b), I’d like to talk to you about some investment opportunities.
And thank you for adding value to the blog by blindly taking as gospel Grant’s word on Jenkins.
claude
If you were Grant, how would you become objective? If AJ does suck in a practice, Grant has really put himself in a corner with the tirade. If he reports he looked fine, and others say he sucked, it may look like he is kissing up. If he says he sucks, well, it will be dismissed and continuing the tirade even if others come to a similar analysis.
DS:
No doubt, he’s stuck, at least for the time being.
That said, I wouldn’t presume to advise Grant on how to do his job.
I’m not stuck. I write what I see. I have no agenda. A.J. seems like a nice guy and I hope he becomes an outstanding wide receiver some day. I’ll be sure to let you know how he does today at practice.
Brian,
It should be obvious to anyone paying attention that Harbaugh is paying attention to what people are saying. Why else would he feel the need to step up without being asked to and go off about the only 2 negative topics that have been discussed this training camp, Jenkins, and the distance the reporters are from the practice field?
It makes for great theatre, and I think you are on to something by saying he is pissed that someone would question his judgement on the Jenkins pick. He is an ultra competitive person who hates to lose, and stops at nothing to back his players. I think he views the criticism as they are saying he is losing, and his predicting “I told you so” is his way of keeping score for himself while also showing support for his player.
@Grant:
By “stuck,” I mean that, in light of your draft day posting, many of us are going to be skeptical of critical comments regarding Jenkins, regardless of how objective your analysis is.
Claude,
That’s your issue not Grant’s.
@Jack
That may be, but it’s not only my issue. If his readers are skeptical of what Grant writes on a particular topic, then he’s stuck, at least as to that topic, and at least until those readers lose the skepticism.
I understand that you don’t feel that way, but that’s because you shared Grant’s opinion on the 49ers drafting Jenkins over Fleener, and we’ve seen it color your “analysis” of Jenkins ever since.
Claude,
He’s not stuck. If you and others want to doubt his reporting that is your right. As you so brilliantly pointed out this morning there are several different places one can go to and get a variety of opinions.
@Jack:
Thanks for the tip about those other places to get other opinions. I’ll be sure to check them out.
Make sure you use a double coat this weekend.
It is fitting that a commentor by the name of Balls is giving polishing advice.
@Jack:
If you are going to the trouble of washing and waxing Grant’s car, you might as well do a good job.
I will leave the polishing to you Señor Balls.
Probably Lynch at the Comical too. But the Cohn boy here is the Prime Instigator.
Prime Time says:
July 30, 2012 at 10:32 am
Maybe cause he is Mr. King Flip Flopper?
I called you out earlier to prove your flip-flopper premise.
Prove your accusation bud…
AES, at least 5 different bloggers have called you out on saying one thing then turnin your opinion 360 degrees after the fact. It’s who you are and the reputation you have developed on this blog.
As for proving it, no time and I don’t care, you don’t, and I’m sure no one else does. It’s just an observation people have labelled to you. It’s no big deal, it’s just one of those things fans/haters do.
They take the wait and see approach and when the Niners are winning it’s all in, then when they struggle their all piss and vinegar. The total flip flop convenient fan approach, you know it well.
@Primate
They take the wait and see approach and when the Niners are winning it’s all in, then when they struggle their all piss and vinegar.
This is the Stupidest thing I’ve heard. Going by your logic, no one should ever be critical because that would be piss and vinegar. What you don’t realize is that being critical is an intial step in the progression to getting better . For some reason, some folks interpret being critical as being a hater which is quite the opposite. A critic – as it would apply in the case of a sports fan – is someone who see’s deficiencies (team, player, coaching, etc) and brings it to light in the hope that – once addressed – leads to overall improvements.
Nick I’m sorry but this has to be the last time I reply to you. Your just not a bright guy and between you and Neal, it’s getting exhausting explaining things to you cause you guys truly are the dumbest on here!
Nick says: “What you don’t realize is that being critical is an intial step in the progression to getting better ”
Your a fan, how is being critical helping anyone or anything getting better? You think the 49ers org. Is reading all you haters comments and rhi is a way for them to help their team get better?
All your critical comments are helping no one, in fact, they are not being addressed so how is it improving anything.
Here’s my last piece advice for you Nicky, read things carefully before replying. Your not a critic so your critical analysis means jack and it’s not helping improvement of anything!
Thank you Primate, I rest my case.
@Nick, Prime Time:
What do you guys think of Singletary? Was he the worst or what?
Primate,
That is funny primey, I believe your the dumbest on the blog and you don’t need to be Dr. Phil , that you can use a bucket of pro-zac on a regular basis.
Not going the directiom claude was leading Neal.
@ Claude
Here’s a shocker, Mike Singletary sucked as a head coach :)
(good person, bad HC)
@claude balls, Sing was a terrible hire, I don’t think he was ready and don’t believe he himself felt he was ready to be a head coach. He probably realized he better jump at the opportunity and so he took the job.
His biggest mistake or fault was not being able to hire a solid supporting staff. Coaches throughout the league knew he was not ready therefore no one wanted to work for him.
It was also a knee jerk reaction by ownership as they got caught up the strong finish of the season. But as we have seen, rah, rah coaches dont last long.
@neal I’m tired of embarrassing you and you embarrassing yourself, I promise to leave you alone. Good riddance to you pervert!
@nickrow, you rest your case? Is that Swahili for “your right Prime Time, I am the dumbest guy on the blog?
@Prime Pervy Rib,
I agree with your assessment on the Rev, I remember listening to Ralph and Tom on KNBR and they were interviewing the REV and he said he is going to be one of the best coaches in the history of the game, right then and their I knew we were in trouble, why did he have to say that.
Also Prime Pervert if you do move out of your Mommy’s basement, receive therapy, get your own place that you can call home, find a girl that can tolerate you, and take your pro-zac, work out and eat right, take anger management classes perhaps you might have the ability to not respond to my posts. I hope you can do that but it might take years.
Prime Time says:
July 30, 2012 at 11:03 am
“AES, at least 5 different bloggers have called you out on saying one thing then turnin your opinion 360 degrees after the fact. It’s who you are and the reputation you have developed on this blog.
As for proving it, no time and I don’t care, you don’t, and I’m sure no one else does. It’s just an observation people have labelled to you. It’s no big deal, it’s just one of those things fans/haters do.”
@Prime
Care to give me the name of those 5 different people?
With the exception of oneniner who no one gives much credibility too, who are the others?
Stop being a pavlonian to oneniner, and get some proof before making accusations. You’re better than that son.
OABTW, telling DS that MC is one of your favorites than eagerly piling on him with his latest injury report smacks of total flip-flopping. Which is it Prime, you sound confused?
AES
Read the 2nd paragraph of Primes. Prime says it means nothing to him.
AES, take it easy guy. People on here get labelled all the time. I am considered to be the angriest guy in the world according to some and DS is considered to be every kind of life form, and apparenlty for some reason, Neal thinks Prime lives with his Mom and is depressed?
The last thing this blog needs to turn into is a court of law where we are quoting and proving guilt and innocence. Let it go man, its almost week 1.
@Primate
this has to be the last time I reply to you
Hmm … hypocrisy at its best.
Going by your logic, Sports Talk Radio and forums like this should not exist. In your world, we’d all be holding hands, singing “Kumbaya”, and praising how great Alex Smith is.
FDM,
I am shocked Primate may of kept his promise to not respond to me, maybe we should believe in Miracles. I hope so.
DS94everXev says:
July 30, 2012 at 10:28 am
@AES
“How can you be Mr. All In, and write a post putting down Jenkins?”
DS,
Show me a quote where I put down A.J. Jenkins.
@AES
“When JJ catches more than 70 passes during the season you may have some credibility. At the moment all you’re having is an emotional withdrawal (lol)!”
Why don’t you believe AJ will catch more than 70? Does AJ need to catch more than 70 for you to be “All in”? What does a stat have to do with standing up for, and defending AJ? KW hasn’t caught 70 balls. Does that mean he will not be defended by you because of it?
The fact that you slighted a Niner player to defend another who has not done in 4 years what AJ has done in less than 1 (sign and come to TC and participate fully) tells me you are not All in.
See my suggested reply:
“Great to see AJ working so hard in TC. When MC recovers, they’ll make quite a pair of threatening WR’s to any opposing defenses!”
As to how to defend both and insult none. Something that I should not have to teach you since you are all in. And interestingly, something that I came up with naturally in no time flat. So, how can I not be All in, and you are, when you didn’t come up with a similar statement?
Reason: You are not all in. You are defending MC at the expense of AJ. No need to do such a thing. And most certainly proof you are not “All in”.
“All in” til Alex throws an INT then its “All out!
@DS
That’s “King” All In, to you (lol)!
@DS,
Still waiting for you, on quoting me where put down A.J.
Your MC hatred is clouding your thought process dude.
Have to make sure the dots are close enough for you to connect my young apprentice.
lol
Let me see if I have this training camp math down:
AS sucks + MC is great = AJ sucks.
AS is great + MC sucks = AJ is great.
AS is great + MC is great + AJ is great = Harbaugh is a liar.
@ Ribico
Good one, but I think you need to work on your arithmetic
Right, Nick. Come to think of it:
AS sucks + MC sucks + AJ sucks = Harbaugh is a liar.
Funny ribico
:- )
But nobody has to be great or suck. What everybody has to do is do their job and defend their fellow teammates.
Ribico,
It isn’t lying if he believes it : )
Jack, not according to commentary heard here.
@ribico:
Nice.
like the new math
Seems like Anthony Davis is trying to increase his chances of remaining with the team by playing FB as well. I don’t think it’ll help though.
@MidWestNiner:
Where did you see that? I am behind on my reading and am
surprisedstunned by that news.@MWN
Did you mean Anthony Dixon perhaps?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/19684366/49ers-anthony-dixon-granted-request-for-dual-threat-role-on-offense
And I did mean Dixon.
Maybe instead of turning on each other, we can spray our venom on a common enemy. The 49ers host the Minnesota Vikings a week from Friday night. Mike Singletary still has a job with Minnesota as a Special Assistant to the Head Coach (not going to touch that) and the linebackers coach.
Surely, we can stop bickering with each other and focus our combined antipathy on the guy who retarded the progress of this team and provided 49ers fans with the some of the most un-Walsh football ever seen. God, what a horrible mess of a mistake Singletary was.
Then again, without going through Singletary, we likely don’t get to Harbaugh. Maybe Singletary was a necessary evil.
F’ that, and f’ Singletary. I know it’s only preseason, and the team doesn’t want to reveal too much of the playbook, but I hope Harbaugh/Roman call plays that continually make Minnesota’s LBs look bad.
It is a miracle I agree with you 100%.
@Neal:
When you need someone to blame, there’s always Singletary. From his “offensive” coordinator search to his handling of the QBs to his input in the draft to his in-game decisions, he did just about everything just about as wrongly as it could be done.
Hey everybody, look! Neal and I agree about something. And the bad things we are saying are not about each other. Hooray for progress!
Strange things can happen Claude, when he said the QB is not just one of the position, I knew he was missing some brain cells.
claude
Unless the Vikes rehired MS as the LB coach, he was fired last year after the LB’s revolted against him.
@DS:
I think you are getting bad information from some bad information source:
http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches.html
Poor Leslie Frazier. I think he is stuck with his friend and former teammate.
Where does DS get his information?, The REV was not fired.
MS remains the Assistant HC. But he lost the job to Pagac who was demoted to LB coach. How many teams have 2 LB coaches, with neither being labeled Assistant?
He may retain the title, but the work is being done by Pagac.
Then what does a assistant head coach do? Oh I know he looks at film. :)
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Concerns-about-Mike-Singletarys-preparation-raised-red-flags.html
Add this to your link claude and ask how many teams have 2 LB coaches, and not have 1 be an assistant and MS isn’t doing a lot of coaching.
@Neal:
He writes memos to the head coach about the need for the nutcracker drill, about the offensive coordinator’s dangerous “commie” ideas, and about the proper way to drop one’s pants to motivate the team when losing at halftime.
@DS:
I didn’t say he was doing a good job as LBs coach, just that he had not been fired from the job.
Nice one Neal
DS,
That reminds of the 49er’s o-line situation. They have 2 o-line coaches: Tim Drevno and Mike Solari. I wonder who does the coaching there :)
http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches-staff.html
@ Claude
Jed learned a lesson from the Rev and next time do your due diligence and not get caught up at the moment.
@Nick
Have the OL revolted? Do they (OL coaches) bother to show up at meetings? I am guessing the OL have not revolted and they (OL coaches) show up early.
Here is a quote from the article I linked:
“Tom Pelissero of ESPN 1500 provides an eye-opening look at the situation as part of a bigger evaluation of the franchise’s position at the end of a 3-13 season. Per Pelissero’s report, concerns about Singletary’s “preparation has raised red flags.” Singletary has designated assistant Jeff Imamura to run position meetings, missed meetings the night before a game at Detroit to attend a wedding and “has occupied himself much of the season with side projects instead of the next opponent.”
If the Vikings still have him leading the LB’s after this, they are flat out stupid.
I’m guessing it is more like one of those times when a big cheese at some company stinks it up, and the company whether to save face or for financial reasons, keeps the guy around. They keep his title, but in terms of the actual work, somebody else does it.
The bottom line is he wasn’t fired, just like Larry Fitzgerald’s salary isn’t $5 million. Measure twice, cut once.
Nick Row,
It’s simple, assistant coaches who can actually coach, coach. Those that can’t, don’t.
Both Solari and Drevno can coach, Simpletary can’t. Therefore, both Solari and Drevno coach, and Simpletary doesn’t.
Singletary is definitely a dark chapter in this teams history along with his 2 predecessors and Terry “I can work from home in LA” Donahue. So glad it’s over.
@rocket:
Singletary is definitely a dark chapter in this team’s history
I see what you did there. Shame on you.
Note to all of you conclusion jumpers: I am just kidding. I do not believe that rocket meant what I implied he meant. If I thought he meant his comment that way, my reaction would have been different. If you must attack anyone, attack me for making the joke.
Claude,
Funny to apologize for a potentially offensive comment in the same post in which it was made.
Nice.
Still, I don’t think it was appropriate to joke about Singletary’s being secretly involved with witchcraft. Wicca is a legitamate religion and shouldn’t be made fun of. I know you were joking, but others may not. Please be more careful.
@exgolfer:
You caught me. Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.
HaHa. You nearly made me choke with laughter this time Claude. Nice. You have to admit Singletary was in the dark….with all the film watching he liked to do.
Speaking of Singletary watching film, did he ever once report back to the media with answers he deferred until looking at the film?
exgolfer,
No he didn’t. He would have had to understand what he was watching to do that.
Who knows, maybe the films he was watching were pornos
DS94everXev says:
July 30, 2012 at 11:04 am
@AES
“When JJ catches more than 70 passes during the season you may have some credibility. At the moment all you’re having is an emotional withdrawal (lol)!”
“Why don’t you believe AJ will catch more than 70? Does AJ need to catch more than 70 for you to be “All in”? What does a stat have to do with standing up for, and defending AJ? KW hasn’t caught 70 balls. Does that mean he will not be defended by you because of it?”
@DS
If you see this as a ‘put down’ you are not only a drama queen, but a schizoid. But then again, that was settled long ago (lol).
You just received the ‘most outlandish reach’ of the year award with that one, haaaa-ahaaaaa-hahahahahahaha!!!
I repeat; Your hatred of MC has clouded your thinking.
You just received the ‘most outlandish reach’ of the year award with that one!
Keep em coming dude, I needed a good laugh this morning…
No need to insult AJ if you are all in. If Grant doesn’t get 70 tackles do you still defend him?
And I still said it better defending them both and insulting neither. You lose AES.
Thank you DS. If disagreeing with you means losing, you get the fictional ‘championship belt’ (lol!
You lose for 2 reason:
1. You used another player to make MC look better. By the way, it wasn’t remotely fair either. He hasn’t even played a real game yet, so he can’t have 70 catches.
2. You can’t admit that what I originally wrote
“Great to see AJ working so hard in TC. When MC recovers, they’ll make quite a pair of threatening WR’s to any opposing defenses!”
is a better way to put things than what you wrote. In no way, can anybody possibly see anything negative about any player from what I wrote. In what you wrote, clearly more than myself have seen something not “All in”.
The fact you can’t admit that is why you lose.
ribico says:
July 30, 2012 at 11:14 am
Right, Nick. Come to think of it:
‘AS sucks + MC sucks + AJ sucks = Harbaugh is a liar.”
@ribico,
If that was directed at me, I’ll take credit for the Harbaugh statement. And I don’t recall ever backing down from that.
You need to show me proof of your other accusations.
Go for it….
Quite defensive today.
AES, j’accuse?
AS is great + MC sucks = AJ is great could just as easily apply to me.
Or not. It’s all hyperbole. And all in blog fun.
Is that your way of validating your proof?
Weak dude, but i’m cool (lol).
Proof? I’m not accusing anyone of anything here, AES. Except maybe the Cohn family dog.
Jim is scaring me. Remove all sharp objects and weapons from his home.
@Stan:
Only if Lowell is coming over to visit.
Or any member of the Cohn extended family, claude. They better keep their dog away from JH for good measure as well.
@ribico:
Yes, I think that would be wise.
Harbaugh might have a dart board in his office with their pictures on it.
GENIOUS Super Stan! Pure GENIOUS!
It would be something if Jenkins turns out to be a bust, JH would probably say, he is a great player but we had some more important needs to take care of.
…how can i watch the pre-season games online?
…where……
https://preseason.nfl.com/nflpl/secure/packages?ttv=5&ttp=2
In Yo Mama’s basement
…for free…..
Oneniner,
It’s $20 man. Anti up and watch the quality feed instead of some crappy illegal stream from another country.
“…for free…..”
In that case, you should ask DS.
…$20 is ok….my worry about buying these packages was more on how slow internet connection is at my current location……….
You all sounds so serious. I told my wife today I am leaving her and the kids so I an devote more time to the battle raging here at the Press Democrat 49ers blog.
Well then, you’re not a very good husband or father, are you?
Claude,
He may be being the best father and husband he can be by leaving his family alone. You know, addition by subtraction.
That’s not even close to funny Fabio.
Got your priorities straight Fabio. Good for you.
….I agree we “sound so serious”……
*the* battle?
Fabio, you are late to the war ;) There’s many battles on many fronts here.
Off topic, but another football player has died by his own hands.
http://sprint.mw.cnn.com/primary/wk_article?articleId=urn:newsml:CNN.com:20120730:florida-murdock-suicide:1&category=cnnd_latest#page2
It’s becoming rather concerning what is happening with former and present players.
It is sad MWN no doubt about it, but I hate how everything bad that happens in this league is all of a sudden linked to concussions. Depression is prevelant in a high percentage of the population. I’d bet there are thousands of these types of stories a year but they never get publicized because they don’t involve a Football player.
Rocket,
Of 1,000 retired NFL players interviewed, those between 30 to 49 years old said they had been diagnosed with dimentia, Alzheimers, or other memory loss at a rate 19 times higher than the rest of the country. For players over 50, the rate was five times higher.
Concussions are a very real problem, and is a threat to the game.
exgolfer,
I know it’s a problem. I’m just referring to the fact it seems every poor health story that comes out about a player or former player, automatically has a Concussion diagnosis attached to it. There’s a lot of players that have gone through the NFL and the mortality rate is no higher for them than the average human male.
The sad reality is depression and dementia are prevelant in all walks of life. When a football player has it, it isn’t always linked to concussions.
I’m cynical by nature, but even more so now that it seems more and more players are jumping into lawsuits based on getting calls asking them to from Lawyers trying to capitalize on a very serious and heavily publicized problem.
DS:
“The fact you can’t admit that is why you lose.”
@DS,
Hahahaha! Your comedy act is actually getting better.
I really don’t know what game you enlisted me to play, but I’ll humor you cause I’m a nice guy (lol).
Ok, I’ll admit I lost(?) when you admit that you love MC!
Ball is in your court…
OBTW, “ALL IN!”
AES
You’ve been exposed. You are not all “All in.”
Write it all you want. It means nothing when you still haven’t admitted that what you wrote slights AJ in defense of your leading WR who nobody feared in the playoffs, MC. And what I wrote as the example bests your original post by far.
“All in” Words will forever ring hollow now. Shout it out alll you like. It will become white noise.
DS94everXev says:
July 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm
AES
“You’ve been exposed. You are not all “All in.”
Write it all you want. It means nothing when you still haven’t admitted that what you wrote slights AJ in defense of your leading WR who nobody feared in the playoffs, MC. And what I wrote as the example bests your original post by far.
“All in” Words will forever ring hollow now. Shout it out alll you like. It will become white noise.”
@DS,
Ok Mr. Bob Woodard, but you’ll never hear the 18 minutes I had erased from the tape (lol)!
You still trying to excavate where I slighted A.J. in my reply to ribico? You’ll need a oil drill because there is none. Read my comment real close DS. And find where I slighted A.J.
Saying that he has yet to catch over 70 passes in season is not criticism, it’s a fact. If this qualifies as a slight against A.J., then you have bigger issues that certainly merit professional help. Sorry, that’s not my field bud…
AES
You are “All in” as long as the player has stats that you make up out of the blue.
Were you “All in” with Aldon Smith at this time last year? I was. I didn’t need Aldon to prove himself first. He was a Niner. He didn’t attack another Niner. Did Aldon have to get all those sacks before you are “All in”?
If so, then your new slogan should read “All in. But not until said player gets x stats”
If you like AJ as much as MC, you agree 100% with my suggestion. If you like MC more, you write what you wrote.
And if you wrote what I suggested, that proves you are “All in” with both. The longer you fight with that point, the less “All in” you prove to be.
PS If your first reply to me said something like “You’re right DS. That was a better way. That is how I feel.” then I wouldn’t say you are not “All in”. You just didn’t express yourself as well as you could have. We’ve all done that here. Can’t fault you for that at all.
But we’ve gone back and forth what 6 times or so, and you haven’t admitted it. Even when I ask. You are just fighting with somebody who better expressed what “All in” is than you did in how to handle the AJ and MC thing without insulting either and hyping both equally. What I call “All in” if you aren’t looking at anything but the fact both are Niners. Which is your only stated requirement.
“You’ve been exposed.”
Those are 3 words nobody wants to here from DS.
Jack
See the bridge. Walk off.
Leave me alone. I don’t care how you go about doing it. But leave me alone. You are scum.
Ummm Ummmm…
Black snake crawlin’, ole black snake crawlin’
Down the road I go, oh yeah…oh yeah…
To a blog without so many whiners
.
Oooooh yeah… uh-huh…
I have to admit i’m concerned that “crystal” crabtree will never be healthy from a camp to the playoffs
DS94everXev says:
July 30, 2012 at 5:03 pm
“AES
You are “All in” as long as the player has stats that you make up out of the blue.
Were you “All in” with Aldon Smith at this time last year? I was. I didn’t need Aldon to prove himself first. He was a Niner. He didn’t attack another Niner. Did Aldon have to get all those sacks before you are “All in”?”
@DS,
Yes, and if you care to look at last year’s post draft ratings, you’ll note that I was one of the few who gave the Org high marks for taking Aldon, Hunter, and Kaep. Care to check?
So far for a winner, you’re batting goose eggs (lol).
OBTW, “ALL IN!”
Larry Krueger this morning pointed to the Cohns as the targets of Harbaugh’s ire on Sunday. Krueger says Harbaugh has had enough of them, and Krueger seemed to hope Harbaugh would be proven right with Jenkins so he (Harbaugh) could publicly call on the Cohns to atone and apologize for being “clueless” football analylsts. I don’t sense Krueger much cares for the Cohns. Nor for that matter does it seem Harbaugh does. I sense Harbaugh may go after both of them this season.