SAN FRANCISCO – Donte Whitner spoke to the media in the middle of Bill Walsh Field after Fan Fest on Sunday. Someone asked him a question about backup quarterback Scott Tolzien, and this is what Whitner said.
Q: What is it about Scott Tolzien that makes him effective?
WHITNER: I call him “Baby Drew Brees.” I remember the other day, (Brian) Tyms ran a fade in the back of the end zone and he didn’t run the route like Tolzien wanted him to run it, and you could hear him say, “Run the route like you’re ready to win the route.” He’s a leader. He’s not really a starting quarterback right now, but there’s always guys like that that you see come along in a couple years down the road, like, “Oh, he was in San Francisco and now he’s a starter and he’s really good.” He understands the reads. We can rarely trick him on the back end from a defensive back’s standpoint. And he knows where to go with the football, and that’s the first and foremost thing you have to know as a quarterback, and that’s what he’s doing. The other day in the game I thought he looked as good as anybody out there on the football field, so I think he has a shot.
Q: Coaches talk about his intelligence. Is that something that you can see as a safety facing him?
WHITNER: Yeah, you can see it when he makes the checks when a corner blitz is coming, or a linebacker blitz. He’s really intelligent. He picked up the offense, so I expect him to compete for the back up or even try to be somewhere in the mixture. He’s a really good quarterback.
Q: Is he a baby Drew Brees because he’s not the tallest guy?
WHITNER: He’s not 6-4. He doesn’t wow you with all the things he does, but he doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. Prime example, the other night there weren’t many three-and-outs when he was out there as the quarterback. He moved the ball up and down the football (field). That’s a good sign.
Q: Have you called Tolzien “Baby Drew Brees” to his face?
WHITNER: Behind his back. I’m pretty sure it will come out at some point in the locker room before we break camp, especially if he comes out this week and leads the offense up and down the field again without making mistakes, then you’ll really start to hear it.
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Sweet Baby Drew. Like it.
Darn shame he can’t call him “Baby Alex Smith”.
Tolzien is the best QB on the 49er roster. I said it last year, and I’m suing it again this year. So far nothing has disproven my point. (certainly not Alex)
Alex has, you just have blinfolds on when it comes to him!
I want to actually put a blindfold on when I watch Alex play. It’s that bad. And nothing Alex has done has disproven my point. Only enhanced it as a matter of fact. Saints game does not make up for 8 years of pure garbage.
Its real simple then blank, dont watch! Like I have told every other harter, there are 31 other teams to choose from, pick the one you like and does what you want, real easy, its America, the land of the free!
You suing who ? what? huh?
It sounds like Whitner has a favorite quarterback. Now the Smithers will attack him the way they attack Crabtree.
Ummm. No.
Tolzien looks to be the real deal, Smithers and haters alike recognize that.
@msclemons:
It seems like you just want to start fights. What’s up with that?
@Claude Whitner openly supported the “evaluation” of Peyton Manning and now seems to be giving support to a QB other than the Precious. Do you honestly think the Smithers won’t start nit-picking his play the way they have with Crabtree?
It’s classic cult behavior. Ostracize the non-believer. By mid-season we’ll be seeing calls to cut Whitner.
@msclemons:
I hope not. We already waste too much time dividing ourselves over our own players when we could be joining together to unfairly attack opposing players with malice, ridicule and scathing humor.
>>Do you honestly think the Smithers won’t start nit-picking his play the way they have with Crabtree?
Doubtful. Perhaps only when incessently baited by haters as you are determined to do. What’s your deal, man?
msc
You know Whitner has also publically supported AS. How you “forget” that, I don’t know.
PS – MC has never supprted AS in public. Kinda a difference there between him and Whitner. Plus the added effect that his addition to the secondary allowed DG to go from unemployed one year to Pro Bowl the next. MC’s impact….not so obvious.
Claude,
msclemons67 is a shill – I’m convinced Grant gets paid by the forum post. ;)
msclemons, whats your deal? First your calling people racist, now your looking to start another Alex/Crabtree debate, if your bored, Im sure there are better things to do than this?
Wow the Alex crowd gets up in arms. MSC was half way joking I’m sure. Funny how it was only the “smither” group that took offense. Chill out guys. Alex has a whole season to completely win over a fan base and change perception.
On another note, did anyone catch Braylon Edwards looking every bit like a number one receiver this last weekend?
>>On another note, did anyone catch Braylon Edwards looking every bit like a number one receiver this last weekend?
Just like he did in last year’s pre-season. Remember that beautiful one-handed grab?
Ask coach about that #1 down the stretch.
@Bay:
Yeah, it’s funny how the only people who took offense were the people who were explicitly called out. That’s just inexplicable. And Alex Smith doesn’t have to win over a fan base or change anyone’s perception. Those things are not particularly relevant. He just has to keep doing what his coaches ask him to do, and he’ll be fine.
Yes, Braylon Edwards looked good playing against the Titans’ back ups. How’d he look against their starters?
Bay,
Edwards made a nice catch pushing off of a 3rd string CB. It was his only catch of the game, and he had little to no seperation. Looked a lot like last year. I think Edwards is done personally.
As for Tolzien, I agree we need to be careful about how much stock we put into his performance, but it was damn impressive. Whether the QB is going up against starters or future FedEx drivers, I look to see how efficient he is in footwork, Pocket presence, and just seeing how well he reads the defense and finds the right place to go with the ball. Tolzien was excellent on all counts. He really should have only had one incompletion and that was when his arm was hit on the int.
I think Harbaugh is going to have a difficult decision on his hands in 3 weeks because Tolzien is not going to clear wavers if they release him. In looking at some of the other teams backups and3rd stringers, Tolzien would be a major upgrade to what they have right now. I’m not going to say he could start for anybody else, that is a little far fetched, but there’s no doubt a team like the Chargers would claim him right back to be their backup right now. JJ looked pretty good in the little time he had, but he’s in tough if Tolzien puts up another couple of showings like he did on Friday night.
Funny
There is only 1 other blogger here who has touted ST like myself. And both of us are ardent supporters of AS. And both of us have managed to support both, and not insult one or the other making it an either/or deal.
Don’t anybody here try to make this a AS vs ST deal. You weren’t here saying much about ST before. And you bashed AS aplenty.
Funny how you always come to the defense of the crap disturbers or anyone bashing Alex.
Oh hey ds… How do you feel about Crabtree? Hater! And you haven’t seen Any of the qb’s yet. And you “know” st was good? And didn’t believe what any reporter was saying? But st is the man huh? Now youre trying to take credit for being a racist? Wow! Sounds like onelame that didn’t watch the game and put his spin on how the team looked. And for the record it was I that called bs a racist. If the shoe fits bs… And any other hater.
And bay… You’re correct look at the first “smither” that jumps in to defend smiths honor. Ha ha haaa. Sad!
And Claude your comment is the lamest I’ve ever heard you post on here. Yes Alex smith has to win over the fans. And MOST importantly the GM and OWNER.. You know the guys who were gunning for manning? NO FANS NO MONEY, NO TEAM. People like you kill me Claude. NO sense on how a business is run, CUSTOMERS come first. Lesson one you dummy!
Really Ninermd, a rant about how you call someone a racist, how its wrong to defend Smith, and the Manning issue which is and was a dead issue 4 weeks ago, come on man, your better than all that.
How did you think the team looked Friday night?
@ninermd:
You’re right. Look at all of the Super Bowl teams that have been built by surveying the fans on personnel decisions.
You keep trying, but you keep failing.
Md maybe from a marketing and fan experience game day perspective the organization listens to fans but from a personnel perspective, I think they just nod their heads and listen to the fans all the while thinking to themselves, “these guys have no clue how to build a team or evaluate talent”. Except for Jack who is the all knowing QB coach and evaluator of talent.
The Niners finally have a front office in tact and
one of the best coaching staffs in the league. They know exactly what their doing and doing a pretty good job to boot.
Fdm…. Please stand back while smacking is in session. Wrong to defend Alex smith?? No. Wrong to make him the heart and soul of the universe while hating another 49er player? Yes!
Claude…. I’ll send that letter I got from harbaugh back with your “knowing all” comment. And I’ll let mr York know how you would run his business. Dude you love to pick apart someone’s opinion and paste it so you can dissect it.. But on Bays you jped the shark just to defend smith or just to be heard. You *ucked up on that one and I’m calling you out. It’s funny when smith was being bood out of the game for sucking so bad, the coach pulled him, the GM looked for a replacement, then tried to replace him again. You know why Claude??? It’s because fans matter, and money matters. So without fans showing up or buying merchandise guess what happens then? Clause just take this *uck up as a lesson and move on before embarrassing yourself any further. Is smiths feelings worth the publics perception on your blog character?
Think about that dummy!
Prime…. You’re right, but to say that smith doesn’t need to win over fans is the dimmest comment one Claude could make. That was the point. Not that the front office doesn’t know what they’re doing. Claude In hopes to continue the split on here, jumped to quickly and made a stupid comment. Plain and simple. I don’t see anyone defending what this idiot said. Because everyone knows that to owners fans matter BIG TIME. Because as a smart business owner would know. Customers are the reason they have that business, and if smith goes back to the old smith all hell will break lose in sf. So yeah Smith this season has more pressure to win AND win over ALL fans to keep his job. Because if he doesn’t… There will be NO more smith. And Nobody can argue that. And Claude before you paste what I’m saying… Think about this. What is the reason the owners bring out the football team for last weekends fan appreciation day at the stick? Que the jeopardy theme……….. Think real hard claude
MD,
There is no doubt the fans matter, but fan emotions don’t play into personnel decisions. If they did, Alex Smith would have been gone a long time ago. The fans pay the bills, but they don’t decide who is on the roster and playing…unless it’s Tebow of course.
@ninermd:
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but you are an f’ing idiot.
Of course, fans matter to teams. Teams need to suck out as much of our money as they can. But it doesn’t mean that fans get to dictate personnel decisions. Well-run teams simply do not do that.
All that teams have to do to keep fans coming back is win. If they win, the fans are happy. The fans buy season tickets, spend their money on team merchandise, go to games and spend ridiculous amounts of money on food, beverages and parking.
And they do all of that even if they don’t like a handful of players on the team or think that the GM and coach made personnel mistakes. Winning is what matters, and a team has a much better chance of winning if it leaves personnel decisions in the hands of competent professionals instead of ceding it to unqualified fans, particularly those who get drunk and call for David Carr.
Smith has no obligation to win over fans. He just has an obligation to do what his coaches ask and win games. He did that last year. If that wasn’t enough for some of you, tough luck. That’s your problem, not the team’s. Smith is still the QB, and you’ve still come back for more this year, buying tickets, merchandise, etc.
The 49ers will replace Alex Smith if he can’t do the job on the field and they can find a better alternative. They won’t replace him just because jordan and Bay don’t like the way he plays the position.
>>NO sense on how a business is run, CUSTOMERS come first. Lesson one you dummy!
md, instead of wasting our time here with your juvenile homilies, how about looking at how the customers *have* spoken. Fan day last year – 6,000. Fan day this year – 32,000. Probably not REAL fans, right. Oh wait, that’s bay’s gig.
And Alex Smith doesn’t have to win over a fan base or change anyone’s perception………….Claude
Sure about that Stupid? Ha ha haaaa Cant save face dummy. Just continue rolling on Fraud.
ribico says:
August 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm
>>NO sense on how a business is run, CUSTOMERS come first. Lesson one you dummy!
md, instead of wasting our time here with your juvenile homilies, how about looking at how the customers *have* spoken. Fan day last year – 6,000. Fan day this year – 32,000. Probably not REAL fans, right. Oh wait, that’s bay’s gig
Thanks for making my point. Didnt know you had my back now Rib. But Ill decline the help of one of the blog dummy’s. Think Rib…. If Smith didnt win over some more fans last season, It would have been the same 6000 Die hards instead of all of the new “die hard” fans showing up Sat. Wheeeew! Hate is blind and you and Fraud continue to put your feet in your pie holes. Get Lost Rib. Bay stamped you perfectly.
md
Just shut your trap Mr KKK. Has anybody ever disagreed with you and not been called names?
it would have been a cold day in hell if the niners would have listened to the fans chanting ” we want carr”
if those are real fans, we would be in big trouble vato’s…….
But according to Bayarea, the fans that actually go the games are the most knowledgeable. The same ones that chanted we want Carr. As much as Sing was in over his head, even he wasn’t that stupid to put Carr in.
This guy also said that the receivers in the championship game were open all game and that Alex failed to pull the trigger, meanwhile,Troy Aikman who called the game, Tim Ryan and the great Jerry Rice said otherwise.
I’m just wondering what kind of beer do they sell at the Stick because I think I need some as it seems to make people a little looopppppppyyyyyy!!!!!!!
Ds…….. Come shut it for me. Im not the one who has issues with black Qb’s. KKK? That would be one hell of a Chappelle episode. You’re a joke Bs. Again how do you feel about MC again?
And Prime…. Its funny because other folks at the game sais the same thing. Smith missed open recievers. And being there you can see the plays not like the 20 yard window you get on tv. Believe that. And if the fans “including me” that were chanting we want Carr arent real fans, then what would a real fan do when their TEAM is sucking because of bad qb play? Just wondering. Because I always thought “Real fans” want whats best for the TEAM not ONE NINER. Just sayin.
Md if it is hindsight which it would not have been, Carr would have been worse. Remember the Carolina game after he went in, yeah INT that sealed the game.
Nobody could save the offense that year, Jimmy Raye brought offensive coordinating back to the stone ages that year.
If you say the receivers were open and Aikman says otherwise, and I watched the game on my TV and disont see any of our WR’s win any battles, not sure how much more I can say than I tend to believe my eyes and a HOF QB that played the game as well as any QB in NFL history.
Problem is people in the past who have consistently blasted Smith say what your saying, they were open. That just makes me think your seeing a game with a bias outlook. Whatever you think is fine by you, but don’t tell me watching live is a different game than watching it on TV, maybe the angles, but not the results.
Also if your saying Smith missed some throws in that game, I agree. But as far as receivers getting open, different story!
Prime, he can’t miss them if they aren’t open. Either they are open and he missed them or they were never open. Damn you’re dumb, too much time with BS! It’s rubbing off.
Actually 23 welcher when a QB misses a receiver or the receiver drops it, it’s called a incompletion, you know attempts versus completions?
The WR were not gettin open, especially on 3rd down that game, therefore no where to throw the ball, result, incompletion, sack, throw it away.
But if was JJ he would made the receivers get separation, oh wait, he is cutting released in 2 weeks, such a shame, after all your predictions that he would win the job in camp, he is now fighting for an NFL job.
I may be dumb but at least I’m not a pathetic welcher making moronic predictions, honor your bet welcher boy!
EM missed a good deal of passes in the title game. As did DB in our game. And TB in the Super Bowl. Tebow made a career off of missing passes.
Point is every QB misses passes. So making that point is = to making no point. One thing that seperates good from average QB’s is their abiity to find the open WR’s and make a pass attempt.
And according to a 3 time World champion, HOF QB, AS didn’t miss seeing any more open WR’s than the eventual Super Bowl MVP did.
The fact he continually pointed out that our WR’s were not getting open in fact suggests a lot more of the blame for the less than ideal passing attack was due to the WR’s. Not AS.
And if some here choose to pretend that Aikman didn’t say that, then they are the same people who think the world is flat because from their perspective it is. Ignoring the fact other perspectives with better views exist. And that they are right, and you are wrong.
>>And bay… You’re correct look at the first “smither” that jumps in to defend smiths honor. Ha ha haaa. Sad!
Umm, No. Not Smiths honor, just pointing out the moronic premise of msc’s post. md, with your towering intellect, I’m surprised you didn’t make the distinction. Oh, wait…
>>Thanks for making my point.
md, you said:
“Yes Alex smith has to win over the fans.”
Repeat after me:
Yes, Alex has won over fans.
Again. The guy going around calling people dummies must certainly understand this grammar distiction. Oh, wait…
>>Funny how it was only the “smither” group that took offense.
Ummm, no. Funny how it was only the “smither” group that responded that he’s FOS in his premise.
Well said Rib!
It’s funny how funny it is that its funny when a person says it’s funny. How funny!!
Yup Guapo, it’s like open mic night here.
These funny guys (myself included) better not give up their day gigs.
Only if he messes up one coverage Msclemon. Otherwise Whitner can back anybody he wants to just as long as the team comes first.
I have been for AS from the start. I am also a fan of Tolzein. I think he will be a dynamic quarterback in the future. As to types and not to compare ability I would compare Tolzein in style to Montana and CK to Young in style. Just some thoughts from a fan that watched Frankie Albert when this team started.
Before anyone flames this guy, remember Montana was very underrated, didn’t have a cannon, and wasn’t very tall. But he was Joe Effin’ Montana. Maybe we’ll be saying Scott Effin’ Tolzien some day.
Mavin 1 — I agree with you on your comparing Tolzien with Montana. Also I too remember the Niners from 1946 when they were in the All American League and would listen to them on the radio especially when they played the Rams.
Mavin1,
Good assessment. Only I think that S.Young had better throwning technique then CK has.
CK will need to learn how to shorten his throwing motion to have any real success in the league. Friday was a good example of how a long throwing motion can work to his detriment when he had a WR open momentarily but failed to get the ball to him in time before a defender broke up the pass.
Tolzien on the other hand is very fluid in his technique and mechanics and delivers a very accurate catchable ball. As I mentioned last night, I could see Tolzien leap frogging CK for the #2 backup position.
I’m just concerned about his smallish stature, which I’m sure is why Donte Whitner calls him ‘baby Brees.’
AES….. Young only became a good passing QB after Walsh got a hold of him. If you remember his first couple years here he had a tendency to throw the ball high to his receivers especially over the middle. It does take a couple years ‘with good coaching’ to become a good NFL QB for most.
…here we go…media defining CK…….”The 49ers have their own version of Tim Tebow, only better. His name is Colin Kaepernick”
i’ll repeat what i posted this weekend. i’m very excited at the prospect of having 3 qb’s that are either good right now or are going to be good in the near future. this bodes well for this season in case of injury and for the future with an opportunity for extra draft picks. go alex/go colin/go scott/go niners
Of course the regulars here know that I have supported AS, and also ST, and JJ, and only lukewarm with CK. I thought CK played a good game Friday, but he hasnt erased my thoughts of him not being a WCO QB. He has a lot to offer, I finally saw some of that, but I still dont think he is a WCO QB. ST either makes the team or he is playing on some other team. He will never clear waivers and make it to the practice squad. It looks dismal for JJ from my point of view.
I watched most of the games this past weekend and trying not to be partial, I felt the Niners and the Texans looked the best. Those two teams looked very smooth and had very few mistakes. Of course its just pre season game one but those two teams looked to be ahead of the rest.
I completely agree that Tolzien looks more like a WCO QB than Kaep. The 49ers don’t really run a WCO though; it’s a power run offense with intermediate play-action passes and the occasional shot play.
Harbaugh has mixed in some WCO concepts (everyone does nowadays) but overall the offense is what Singletary failed (with an “f”) to implement.
Physical with a “ph” because Harbaugh can actually spell.
lol – Sing had more problems then spelling.
Undercenter,
Nobody has supported their assertions about JJ not making this team. So what exactly did you see in his play that leads you to believe he won’t be on this team?
Jordan,
You directed this at UC, but I’ll take a stab at it too. It’s not that Johnson played bad; it’s that everybody played well. Johnson is realistically – I know in your mind he’s a starting candidate but I disagree – competing with Tolzien for the #3 job imo. Tolzien is younger and looked like the better player of the two on Friday night. Now that could just be because he had more snaps but that is what I was left with after watching the game. If JJ comes back the next game and does the same thing, then there is going to be a tough decision to make between JJ and Tolzien but I really don’t think the 9ers will keep JJ if Tolzien continues to impress when he’s in there.
Hey Jordo
It wasnt so much his play, I think he is going to get caught up in the numbers game. I like JJ thought it was a good move to get him, still do!! If it was my decesion to make I would trade CK and keep JJ and ST but its not mine to make. Actually I am pretty happy with all four of our QBs right now.
to the Braylon Edwards comment… He is a #1 receiver if he’s stays healthy. Last year he he played well when he was able to but he was never healthy…..
Watch how Braylon Edwards plays this year if someone throws him some catchable passes. Something Smith didn’t do last year.
Watch, wait, you will see!
23 welcher, I am still watching and waiting and lookjng for Smith not to be here this year. Remember, you said that and to book it?
Then it was watch out for Johnson, he will beat out Smith in training camp, now he is on the bubble to make the team, in fact, he might be out of the NFL as it looks like tough sleding for him to find a job!
Now you wants us to wait and see Edwards have a productive year in SEA, who’s side are you on man?
Braylon still has football left in him. Unfortunately he was hobbled all of last year and was unable to show what he could do. Then began to spout off and had to be let go. To say Braylon didnt do well as a niner is because Smith couldnt throw him a catchable ball is just pure ignorance.
Look at the video Adam707. You must live somewhere where the games can’t be seen. Half the passes Smith threw to Edwards were uncatchable . Guess how many drops Edwards had last year? None.
LSD,
You’re the same fool that thinks Tolzein is the next Joe Montana, like some of the rest of these idiots. Least talk after preseason. Wanna bet JJ is on this roster after preseason. We watched Nare Davis do the same things Tolzein did 3 years ago. It’s preseason. Josh played 8 minutes, threw 4 passes but threw the nicest and longest pass of the night. Get your head out of your crack.
Hyperbole. You can’t drop the ball if you don’t really try to catch it.
@FDM:
Don’t do it. Don’t let him sucker you into a bet. He’ll never pay up.
I love how everyone who holds an opinion different from jordan is a fool, is a clown, is a jacka$$ or has his head up his crack. I guess that’s what one learns from the Welcher’s Guide to Winning Friends and Influencing People.
Claude,
Even had an opinion of your own? Can’t be a politician, you spend too much time up here. Get a life, and an opinion clause. Mr know it all that doesn’t know jack!
I guess that’s what one learns from the Welcher’s Guide to Winning Friends and Influencing People.
That’s a great read, especially the part about being able to say anything you want and pretending it never happened.
Edwards couldn’t catch the passes because he was hobbled. Whoops, I just made and excuse for him. My mistake.
@jordan:
Oh, I have an opinion of my own, all right. In my opinion, you are an unprincipled welcher.
Then again, that opinion isn’t just mine. Lots of people share it. I know because I seem them express it frequently on this blog.
23…….You’re right. Edwards was a circus act catching Smiths passes. That cant be denied. Well except if you’re in love with a man that wears #11. Wheew
Alex Smith never knew he had so many females in love with him! He’s a hell of a player, sarcasm! You cats are forever in denial. Watch Edwards numbers this year. We know the real about he and Smith. The Smithers just keep drinking the kool aid.
Let me address the welching issue. Smith was as good as gone until Peyton Manning threw a fly in the ointment. So yes he came back, but he certainly would not have been back if Manning hadn’t chosen the Broncos. The bottom line was, the Niners front office didnt want Smith back. After Manning turned us down, We were stuck with Smith. These are facts. I’m sure you cats can give me some follow up excuses. You gentlemen can’t face the truth.
Alex Smith can’t even save himself this year. He will continue to play safe and fall short of what we need. His days are numbered and I can’t wait to see his gils crying when he’s gone.
@23welcher:
You gentlemen can’t face the truth.
Let us know when you say anything truthful.
>>Watch how Braylon Edwards plays this year if someone throws him some catchable passes.
Great, the Jordo kiss of death. What did Braylon ever do to you, man?
Now 23 welcher is saying that if it were not for Manning, Alex would not be back as a 49er.
So you knew all along that the Colts were going to finish with the #1 overall pick, draft Luck and release Manning and it would come down to the Niners solicitating his services?
Oh my God how pathetic is this clown? I thought he said it would be Smiths play but now if it weren’t for Manning, Smith would be gone.
23welcher, I’ve met some liars, losers, and shady people in my time, but you must be the greatest troll of all time, well done, nothing more to do than keep being a knob, it’s a great gig you got going on, cheers!
Primetree,
Gotta get out from underneath BS’s skirt. YOu do realize that the Niners were planning on replacing your lover with Manning. Smith’s play did make them go after Manning. Smith was average and average is not going to get the Niners to the super bowl. We’re going to fall short with Smith at QB this year as well. Until we cut ties with the albatross, no super bowls for us,
Well, since you said it 23, it must be absolutely wrong.
Just watched Andrew Luck’s first pre season game as a Colt. If they play any defense at all, they will go to the playoffs. Andrew luck looks like a third year pro behind center. Really pulling for that kid.
Playoffs for them will probably be too difficult 1st year. They would have to hope for a wild card. I think Houston is the real deal
I agree Bay, he looks polished but I dont see them making the playoffs. Teams are going to blitz him till the sun comes up and not sure that oline can hold up, as well as, that run defense is soft like butter in Indy!
Agree with you 100% on that Bay.
They’re still going to have one heck of a pass rush.
Bay,
You won’t have to pull for Luck. He’s got the goods. How about these clowns crowning Tolzein for completing 8 passes against Minnesotas backups. Here are his faults, no mobility whatsoever, can’t throw over that line. When he goes 4-13 against starters, can’t wait to hear the peanut gallery. When JJ gets his reps, he will impress. he threw 4 passes, and jack azzes like BS said he looked horrible. That clown needs to resign from this blog.
Yes Luck passed the eye test. He is going to be a great QB for years to come. However like Jordo attested to the Niners playing the Vikes defense it can be said the same that Luck played against the Rams defense. Newton had a crap day when he had to go up against a real defense – the Texans.
lol Andrew Luck dumped off a 3yd pass to Donald Brown who took it to the house for 60 yds. Media headline: Andrew Luck throws TD pass on 1st attempt. His 2nd TD at least was an actual throw. Same thing with RG3, 2yd screen pass that goes for 20 yd TD.
@jordan after watching tolzien in college i believe he has avg nfl mobility and he is listed at 6’3″ so he may have weaknesses that will become apparent when he faces 1st team d’s but i do’nt believe they will be mobility or heigth
Coach,
Those are a couple of weaknesses that 1st team defenses look to exploit. Speed is always a factor. His height without a ton of athleticism could affect his play. None of us will know until he starts a game against #1′s.
One of the worst Superbowl matchups that could ever happen in my world is these two crap bag franchises. I would love to see a 0-0 tie and failure everywhere. Long drives to the 10 yard line and a T.O. Oakland is 1-0 so far. Buahahahahaaaaa