Injury Report

SANTA CLARA – Two key 49ers were limping in the locker room this afternoon – Ted Ginn Jr. and Demarcus Dobbs.

Dobbs was on crutches and his left leg was wrapped from the ankle to the knee. He hardly put any weight on the injured leg.

Ted Ginn Jr. had a boot on his right foot, and as he limped slowly out of the locker room I asked him if he’d be ready to play against the Green Bay Packers in two weeks, but he didn’t respond – he just limped away.

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224 Responses to Injury Report

  1. Nick says:

    That’s not a good sign. Dobbs had been playing well. This increases the odds of Rueland making the team. The Ginn injury is worrisome. If he can’t go, then most likely K. Williams will get to return punts in GB – Hallelujah!! We know how that turned out the last time Williams returned punts in a real game.

    • Nick says:

      OneLatino

      Sure, go find a statement where I blamed AS for the NFCCG loss. I’ve said many times that had AS played better, the 49ers would have won. However, he didn’t lose the game. Without those KW fumbles, we would have won even with mediocre QB play.

    • Fabio says:

      Hmmm OneLatino strikes again..

    • Jack Hammer says:

      Odallay Vato! Como esta?

    • jrmccabe says:

      My worst fear. I hope to never see K Williams return punts in a game.

  2. MidWestNiner says:

    I think it might be in the team’s best interests to invest in a kick/punt returner next offseason. I like Ginn, but he gets injured too often.

  3. msclemons67 says:

    Lost your meds?

  4. shawnrhod says:

    KW doesn’t bother me returning punts. If he makes the team he deserves a chance to redeem. Also this is what he does so if that is his asset so be it. short leash though…

    As for Ginn, we is always hurt and he had some decent returns for us. However, he is not a slot wr and only a #3 SE/F…if he is lucky. This is why James and Jenkins were back there returning punts in camp. One would think James should have this job by the end of the season. He has the speed and more agility. He should be a Sproles-type player. Needs to stay healthy though. Haven’t seen any flash from him so far.

  5. oneniner says:

    ….this is the second time Ginn has kind of ignore you Grant……

  6. Bangkok Niner says:

    People learn from their mistakes, Williams should be given fair chance to learn from his. I’drather employ someone who has messed up, admitted it, learned and moved on rather than one of those saintly types who sits in an interview telling me how perfect he is.

    • f49er says:

      I agree,

      I think KW is on a Mission this year. He’ll redeem himself.

    • Rusty_in_OC says:

      People CAN learn from their mistakes, but it ain’t a given. And didn’t we see KW doing a little “diving” for the catch on Sunday, as he did last year? NOT a good sign!
      But I find it pretty hard to believe that the only two options we have for returners are Williams and Ginn. Who’s the next man up?

  7. Nick says:

    Makes me wonder if Ginn is taking performance enhancing drug and that’s making him more injury prone.

    • Nick says:

      *drugs

    • Bray says:

      Too bad it wasn’t a PED that helped to understand how to run routes against different looks on D. Ginn is a terrrible route runner, that’s the main reason he has never seen much time as a regular WR. I think we over estimate his value because of KW’s mistakes in the NFC champioship game.

      I don’t think missing him will be a big deal at all.

  8. Crab15 says:

    Grant – You should’ve went John McEnroe on Ginn.
    “Answer my question?” “the question jerk!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j0eqZKTjpk

  9. Houston 9er says:

    Alex Smith is the weak link on this team. He’s in the bottom 3rd in the league as a QB. With a better QB this team would be going for a repeat Superbowl victory this year.

    • f49er says:

      This just in…..

      The Season hasn’t started yet & until it does you’re not telling me anything of importance. Your just flapping your gums.

    • DS94everXev says:

      You had the sound off when the game was about to begin didn’t you houston?

      Troy Aikman, you know a guy who knows more than you do, said AS had a “great year. Not a statistically great year, but great.” Comparing himself to AS.

      So, once again, you are pitting yourself against a guy who was a HOF QB and knows a lot more than you do. And you think you have more sway than he does.

      Good luck convincing anybody who acknowledges that a former HOF QB knows more than you do about a QB and evaluating his job performance.

      By the way, Kurt Warner, JM, Rich Gannon, Terry Bradshaw all thought AS had a great year. How many playoff wins and titles are shared among them vs. you? Don’t you think you should reconsider your stance?

      • DS94everXev says:

        Looks like somebody got a little too envious of their free speech on here. This was up near the top of the page earlier.

        Glad I missed it.

      • VA Niner says:

        Some amazing comments on this site. Wholeheartedly agree with you on AS. First 5 years, was definitely depressed watching but last year he was just amazing given the targets he had to work with (VD excepted) and the fact he was on his back more than anyone. True, he caused a lot of it by not releasing the ball but 5 TO’s if 5 TO’s. I think he’s going to have a even better year. I’m looking forward to next year when we’ll have won the SB and watch more inane comments on how AS is the weak link.

      • AES* says:

        DS:
        “Troy Aikman, you know a guy who knows more than you do, said AS had a “great year. Not a statistically great year, but great.” Comparing himself to AS.
        So, once again, you are pitting yourself against a guy who was a HOF QB and knows a lot more than you do. And you think you have more sway than he does.”

        @DS
        I heard TA description of Alex too. But I have to take it with a grain of salt at this stage of Alex’ career.

        Was TA detailed in which part of AS’ game reminded him of himself?

        Let’s bear in mind, that Troy Aikman has a SB and HoF on his resume. It took TA a few years to establish himself as an elite QB in the league. AS (not hating, just honest) still has a way to go. One good season does not an elite QB or HoF make.

        I can certainly appreciate TA’ high remarks of AS, but let AS put together a few good seasons and a SB before we set-up any shrines to him.

      • Prime Time says:

        AES how come anytime someone anyone complements Alex, you have to take it with a grain of salt but when the praise comes in the form of Crabtree it’s absolute?
        Aikman was saying the path Alex had to take with the struggles made was similar to his on the learning of the offense and the added weopons each year, he needed to become familiar before elevating his entire game.
        Thats the comparison he was alluding to but you turn it once again where Alex is not there and not on the same level as Aikman. No one said that, you turn the words to your liking, this is why your the King Flip Flopper!

      • AES says:

        Chill Prime. At least he’s not being compared to JM. Oh, my bad, he has (lol)!

      • Prime Time says:

        That’s DS show not mine, but you get my point? Your all over me about Crabtree which BTW I have reserved comment but your still spitting up Alex stuff. Yor all in campaign is a shady as slim shady himself.
        You need to regroup AES cause your floating in 23welcher waters now!

      • DS94everXev says:

        AES

        You need perspective in life desperately. To say a comparison of two football players is sacrilege is going just a wee bit over the top. You can agree or not. I can care less. But you go overboard.

        And Adam made the comparison a long time ago. Of course you were in the “flip” mode at the time, so you didn’t care. Now you are in the “flop” mode and you suddenly care.

        And if 23J is cheering you on, that means you are wrong.

        By the way, you are upset that I mentioned something positive a person with more signifcance than any of us have about a Niner player. “All In” All in for a joke is what you are. You destroyed your respect on this website with all his “All in” crap, it is sad. If Aikman says AS’s year last year was like his career, that means it is ok to compare it! Starting fights all you do, all day long now.

      • AES* says:

        DS:
        “And Adam made the comparison a long time ago. Of course you were in the “flip” mode at the time, so you didn’t care. Now you are in the “flop” mode and you suddenly care.
        And if 23J is cheering you on, that means you are wrong.
        By the way, you are upset that I mentioned something positive a person with more signifcance than any of us have about a Niner player. “All In” All in for a joke is what you are. You destroyed your respect on this website with all his “All in” crap, it is sad. If Aikman says AS’s year last year was like his career, that means it is ok to compare it! Starting fights all you do, all day long now.”

        @DS/Prime
        Glad to see Prime making an effort to distant himself from your JM, AS comparisions (lol). I was beginning to think he was your pavlov.

        DS your comprehension is becoming very alarming bud. Read my comment again (and again, and again, etc.). Where did I take a dig or cheap shot at AS for you and Prime to have a premature menstruel?
        I even noted that I wasn’t ‘hating’ but being ‘honest’ in my response regarding TA’ statement.

        You two have a habit of calling a haz-mat emergency alert whenever anyone makes any remark about your golden-boy.
        AS is a big boy now in case you haven’t noticed lately. Let his play speak for itself. You two Stooges do more to damage AS’ name than you think you defend it (lol).

        But just in case you have an issue with my thoughts regarding Aikman’ comments of AS, let me reiterate.
        Alex Smith needs more than one good season to be compared to Troy Aikman!
        Aikman is being very humble in his comparision here. Aikman may very well have a type of affinity with AS’ difficult early football career, but as far as I’m concerned, until AS put’s together a resume closer to TA, nothing more should be read into it!

      • claude balls says:

        Any chance you guys could just drop this argument? It’s not even about football anymore. It’s about which one of you is the worst fan/biggest hypocrite/fuzziest thinker.

      • DS94everXev says:

        claude

        AES took it to the biggest fan BS. He didn’t keep it to football. And his history on this blog (for years no) is one who is definitely not all in. A quote that he himself hasn’t shown to hold himself up to since he started using it. Acting like I’m not a fan since I don’t share his views. Saying I hope MC is hurt/gets hurt. That is low. I don’t want that to happen to any of our players.

        Tell AES to stop the crap of me not being all in. He wasn’t all in all last year. AES took a compliment about a Niner player and made it into a negative. Sorry. But my version of All in means I defend said player when a compliment has been turned into a “grain of salt” comment. I never made a big deal about JH’s comment regarding MC having the best hands of any WR he’s been around. If others have, then AES needs to take it up with them. So, I’d appreciate it if AES took compliments of ALL players the same way. Either you believe them , or you don’t. Don’t keep hand-selecting them and using them against another fan and not acknowledge compliments of other players.

        AES does that, this will stop.

      • DS94everXev says:

        (for years now)

      • claude balls says:

        @DS:

        AES does that, this will stop.

        Or you could just ignore him when he goads you like that. It’s pretty clear he enjoys getting the reaction he gets from you.

      • rocket says:

        I’m guessing that’s a no Claude.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @rocket

        “I’m guessing that’s a no Claude.”

        Those are the terms of the deal. It is on AES to agree to them. It is only a “no” if you don’t think AES can shut his trap and keep discussions to football and not claim he’s a bigger fan than I am.

      • AES says:

        There’s written contracts on a blog DS (lol)! I’ve tried to talk football with you and Prime on a few occassions, but the moment you two start with the name-calling, I will respond.

        I can appreciate other bloggers concern about the tired banter. But I will determine who and how I respond in kind. There is really no one on this blog who can control the banter here and that’s Grant.

        I can only try to stay away from any comments that are disgraceful and below-belt-level. And I can assure you that my bark is far greater than my bite (lol). I’m really a big teddy-bear in real life.
        Hey DS, I’m really a lover, not a hater (hahaha!)

      • AES says:

        There’s *NO written

      • DS94everXev says:

        AES

        Prime and myself kept things civil. We asked you ?’s. You never answered. You called us names first and when I asked you to stop, you replied no.

        My. You have selective memory.

        PS People can agree on things without involving contracts. You can agree to terms. The fact you won’t stop calling names when I asked you to is all I need to know.

      • Prime Time says:

        AES needs to be “ALL IN” to the 11-85 connection!

      • AES says:

        Actually Prime, I’m an equal opportunity employer. I don’t who get’s into the endzone as long as we win!
        Try to form these words Prime: It’s about the team, it’s about the team, it’s about the team! (lol).

      • AES says:

        don’t *care

      • Prime Time says:

        It’s all about the 11-85 connection. Who does not love the 11-85 connection? C’mon AES, tell me you love the 11-85 connection?

      • Jack Hammer says:

        AES & DS,

        For goodness sakes, SHUT UP with this nonsense.

      • AES says:

        Hammer,
        You are expending way to much time and energy reading my comments. Move on bud, nothing to see here (lol)!

      • Jack Hammer says:

        LoL AES, that’s fine. Go ahead and keep making yourself look like a child.

      • Neal says:

        DS, I got to give you some props that you don’t name call, which I am guilty of, but your roommate Prime Slime is the worst defender.

      • Prime Time says:

        Neal I believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Prime Time says:

        DS do you believe in the 11-85 connection? I do!

      • AES says:

        No DS, you two have fired the first salvos. I know you’ll find a reason not to look it up, but hey, it what it is.

        But do you really believe that I can agree to any terms created by you? Ahhh, no. Ain’t happ’nin bud (lol)!

      • Prime Time says:

        @AES, does that mean your related to 23welcher? I knew it!

      • DS94everXev says:

        AES

        So if we were to look back, you think I called you names/insulted you first?

        No. You are wrong. I am not going back to look. No need. I know the order of what happened and when.

        @Prime

        I love the 11-85 connection.

        In JH I trust.
        Hopefully AES doesn’t get upset with that. He did earlier.

      • Prime Time says:

        Right on!

      • DS94everXev says:

        Well, I respect Troy Aikman saying AS last year was like his career more than you saying it isn’t. And MC has 1 season of leading the team in receptions. Why don’t you say to wait and see about him? Aikman has no reason at all to say what he did. None at all. Unless it is true. He could have said anything else. He didn’t. That means something. He recognized that AS didn’t have a great season stats wise, and he brought up the fact that he didn’t have one in his HOF career either.

        And where did you show your support for AS? Once again, you could have jumped on the bandwagaon and be All in. You didn’t. Again. That is a pattern of yours.

        People are saying stuff about KW/TG/JJ. All Niners. You aren’t defending them a a bit. So, we have levels of “All In” now don’t we?

    • 23jordan says:

      It’s absolutely true Houston. But we have to take it hopefully for only 1 more year.

    • claude balls says:

      @Houston:

      That’s a nice combination of nonsense and meaningless tautology you wrote there. No wonder jordan supports it.

    • exgolfer says:

      Houston,

      If he’s in the lower third of NFL QB’s, how did he have the ninth best QB rating in the NFL last year? No, I’m not saying he’s the ninth best QB in the NFL; and, yes, I realize the QB rating isn’t the be all and end all of QB indicators.

      Having said that, what kind of QB rating does a good QB’s have? That’s right, a high one. Very good. Now, what kind of QB rating does a bad QB have?. Right, again, a low one. You’re really good at this.

      Now here’s a tricky question: how can a NFL QB, who has a rating in the top third of NFL QB’s, be said to be in the lower third of NFL QB’s?

      Hint: he can’t be said to be in the lower third, since it would require a complete break in logic.

      • rocket says:

        Some of these guys just can’t get past the yardage totals. It’s the fantasy football disease. Smith was in the middle of the pack in yards per attempt which is the key stat you look for in regards to yardage. Total yardage means nothing and has been proven time and again to have little to do with the outcome of a game, but it’s still brought up over and over because it’s something he was in the bottom of the league in.

      • msclemons67 says:

        @Rocket the successful quarterbacks manage to combine efficiency and productivity. It’s not just total yards – it’s managing to put up a lot of yards while still being efficient. Your “fantasy football” argument is a straw man. Nobody thinks Rex Grossman is great because he put up 4000 yards. Everybody recognizes that Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Rothlisberger, Manning, Romo etc. are great because they manage to produce without self-destructing.

        Alex was efficient when he was very limited (e.g. fewest passing attempts of any starter). He has never been productive.

        The NFL has become a passing league. Being one of the most limited passing teams in the NFL isn’t a great blueprint for sustained success.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @msc

        “Everybody recognizes that Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Rothlisberger, Manning, Romo etc. are great because they manage to produce without self-destructing.”

        Hmmm. I get your point. But your examples msc:

        Romo- Is there another starter who is sways more between great and pathetic? Nope.

        Brady – Great regular seasons. Since the undefeated year loss in the Super Bowl though, he’s lost whatever “it” he had. Horrible playoff games. If not for Denver, he was the 2nd worst QB in the playoffs.

        Manning – There were supposed “experts” calling for the Giants to dump him last year until he led them to the Super Bowl. If he didn’t come close to self-destructing (why dump the guy if he isn’t) then who does?

        AS was productive. When the Niners were losing in the 4th quarter in 6/10 games, AS produced a win. Add to that the other 8 games where they were winning (Can’t produce wins and not produce. Hope you can agree to that point) and AS produced just fine.

        He didn’t produce WOW stats. But I don’t care. If you do, then it is true. He never has produced. And he likely never will. Then again, you may not find yourself enjoying this Niner team very much for a long time because AS will be winning games for a long time.

      • 23jordan says:

        BS,

        Alex Smith does not win games. He is a GAME MANAGER. He is a system fit for a run heavy offense. He is the QB for the best defense and special teams in the NFL. He is on a 1 year deal He is invaluable to this team because nobody else is ready in your eyes.
        Prey that your boy doesn’t get hurt. He is taking far too much contact not to have that happen this year. Your game manager can’t afford to get hurt. What you fail to realize is that any one of these 4 QB’s can run this offense and win 10 games this year in my opinion, except Tolzein. My only issue with him is his inability to throw to this blazing speed we have.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        In how many ways can I say good grief?!

      • exgolfer says:

        Jordan,

        You’re as inaccurate as you claim Smith is.

      • rocket says:

        msc,

        How can it be a strawman argument when that is exactly what many on here point to when forming their opinion on Smiths season?

        Efficiency is extremely important which is what Smith was last year. The biggest key to winning a game in the NFL is winning the TO battle. Nothing else even comes close. If your QB is throwing for big yardage and TD’s, it’s completely undermined if they also throw picks and fumble the ball away.

        Yardage means nothing. It really does not factor into winning games the way other things do. So much of the yardage QB’s put up is empty meaningless fluff. Many times it comes when trying to come from behind and completely ignoring the running game. It can also be based on a lot of attempts without achieving much in the way of yards per attemt – see Eli Mannings 5.8 yards per attempt ratio from last years Championship game as an example.

        What I want to see from the QB is a limited amount of mistakes, a yards per attempt of at least 7, and putting as many points on the board as possible. That is what creates and sustains success. The Niners did all 3 last year reasonably well. Obviously we want to see more TD’s instead of FG’s, but this team did not squander scoring opportunities last season which was a huge element in their success. I don’t want yardage; I want points and I want wins.

      • exgolfer says:

        Rocket,

        Stop making sense.

      • undercenter says:

        Rocket, you might be interested in this.

        http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/01/air-yards-2011.html

      • rocket says:

        Thanks for the link UC. That is an interesting site.

      • exgolfer says:

        MSC,

        A QB can’t rack up big yards if he’s not allowed to throw enough passes to do so. We can argue if Smith would be able to put up big numbers if given the opportunity, but, since we haven’t seen Smith throw the ball 40 times a game under JH, we don’t know what Smith would do, given the chance.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        msc,

        Your argument became a failure when you called Romo great.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        MSC, I respect you my man but you are incorrect. The last six SBs were not won by the top QB by ypg. Here’s the list:

        2011 – EManning 4900 yds (SB Win) DBrees 5400 yds (#1 in yds)
        2010 – ARodgers (15 gm) 3900 yds (SB Win) PRivers 4700 yds (#1 in yds)
        2009 – DBrees 4300 yds (SB Win) MSchaub 4700 yds (#1 in yds)
        2008 – BRoethlisberger 3300 yds (SB Win) DBrees 5000 yds (#1 in yds)
        2007 – EManning 3300 yds (SB Win) TBrady 4800 yds (#1 in yds)
        2006 – PManning 4300 yds (SB Win) DBrees 4400 yds (#1 in yds)

        If the 9ers are more productive on 1st and 2nd down this year, they will increase their 3rd down conversions and will be overall more productive on offense. It will help if GR comes up with some unique plays on 1st down (not runs) based on the opponents weaknesses. The RZ numbers should also be better with MM and RM. Stay tuned…

      • exgolfer says:

        Hofer,

        You’re being all nitpicky by bringing up facts. Knock it off!

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        LOL

      • msclemons67 says:

        Look at the winning QBs on your list Hofer – they may not have been #1 in yardage but they were great “fantasy” quarterbacks. They certainly weren’t 29th in the league.

        Now someone name me a quarterback who was consistently in the playoffs while being 29th in the league in yardage. Just one. Productivity doesn’t matter, yards don’t matter so you folks should be able to come up with a consistently winning team that was 29th in the league in passing, right?

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Their HCs weren’t MN and MC either. That helps! LOL

      • Bayareafanatic says:

        Can’t do it…

    • Medic One says:

      I actually think that the secondary is the weak link on this team. I think the secondary will help open up Alex Smith’s game much like it did in the NO game.
      I don’t think we’ll be talking about Alex Smith as much as we’ll be talking about Rogers, Goldson, and the CBs who make this team.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        Goldson worries me the most because he keeps blowing his assignment. I know it’s preseason, but he has a history of doing this. He also has followed a good/great season with a bad/putrid season. He needs to be more consistent or he won’t be with the team next season.

    • claude balls says:

      @Houston:

      With a better QB this team would be going for a repeat Superbowl victory this year

      Yeah, because Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Ryan did so much better against the Giants’ D in last year’s playoffs.

      Wait a minute. … No, they didn’t.

      Maybe you should think about you are writing before you post your comments.

      • Bayareafanatic says:

        They would have easily gone and won with our defense. Smith couldn’t make it there with the best defense in the land.

      • claude balls says:

        @Bay:

        Don’t mix apples and oranges. The issue is how well Smith performed against the Giants’ defense compared to Brady, Rodgers and Ryan against the same defense? I don’t think you can say any of them excelled, but Smith’s performance was on a level with the other three.

      • claude balls says:

        *think about what you are writing

      • exgolfer says:

        Claude,

        So, now you’re saying that Smith is as good as Ryan, Rodgers, and Brady? What do you know? Why don’t you cut and paste some more?

        I just thought I’d save a certain group of posters some time.

  10. Medic One says:

    I believe it is time to offer an injury settlement and cut Ginn. There doesn’t appear to be any room to carry an injuried player (of Ginn’s contributing status) to the 53 man roster.
    I look for him to be on the list sent out Monday.

    • DS94everXev says:

      medic

      I suppose we could resign him if he healed up and nobody else got him.

      Let’s not dismiss TG’s contributions from last year. His returns set up the offense for good field position to score and the defense for pinning the opponent back all game long.

      We won a lot of games last year due to winning field position. And Ted Ginn was a HUGE part of it.

      I think KW has really worked hard to overcome his title game deficiencies. And he can do the job well.

      • Medic One says:

        You’re absolutely right DS. Ginn was a huge contributor last season.
        I think you bring up a great point about picking him up again when he’s healthy. I think this gives the team some extended time to evaluate some other players on the cusp of making the team.
        It also allows the team to hide some players who might be picked up off of waivers to address some immediate concerns for another team.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Ginn is not going anywhere. His sure handed return skills are needed for a team looking to make a run this year.

    • f49er says:

      Ya I don’t believe anything you have to say.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @f49er

        ????

        It isn’t that far fetched an idea to cut TG is it?

      • f49er says:

        DS….

        Really?

        Cut Ginn who’s X-ray came back negative & should be ready for the Packer Game?

        Just cut him? for what? You need to get a Grip.

      • DS94everXev says:

        We don’t know if TG will be back in time.

        From what Grant said above:

        “I asked him if he’d be ready to play against the Green Bay Packers in two weeks, but he didn’t’t respond – he just limped away.”

        Unless you have updated information, we don’t know if he will be ok in time. And this team now has lots of good players.

        Like my post above said, let’s not dismiss Ted Ginns contributions outright. But KW is a much better WR in my opinion, and if he can not screw it up with the fumbles, he can do the job well enough.

        Now TG didn’t get signed to another team and he was a FA. So, maybe we can risk cutting him and sign him back up if we get injured at WR or something before another team snags him up. He knows the offense and we know he can return well. So it wouldn’t be like Swain last year who was new to everything. It’s a risk no doubt. But not an unworthy risk.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Ginn was not re-signed to play WR. He was signed to return kicks. He will only play WR if one of the other 4 guys on the gameday roster is injured.

      • f49er says:

        DS

        Ginn was a Bargain Signing to double as KR/WR, yes KW is a better WR but the “value” in which the 49ers got for signing Ginn outweighs everything else. Ginn is a Top 10 KR.

      • 23jordan says:

        F49er,

        Talking to BS is like talking to a rock. There is no way Ted Ginn is getting cut. He will get reps as a wide receiver. He resigned with the Niners because he expects more reps as a wide receiver. Ted will be fine. Williams is a head case returning punts. Every time the ball is in the air, my throat locks up and so dies Williams. He almost ran right into a turnover in the last game on a punt. He’s not under control back there. Watch when the regular season starts. He will be shaky in Green Bay under those bright lights. He should not be back there.

      • DS94everXev says:

        f49er

        TG was not resigned before FA. The Niners let him go and look elsewhere. And TG did for a long time.

        Tell me. If they are absolutely believing in TG, do they do that?

        I say no. You sign your FA’s before the FA period or at least open up negotiations in a meaningful way. If you can find evidence that the Niners did try to negotiate with Ted Ginn in any real meaningful way where TG didn’t laugh at the Niners offer (like DG did in 2011), then I’ll agree with you. If not, then I think my point is valid and I’m sticking to it.

        Welcher boy- Welch on another website. You put the “S” in “BS”.

      • 23jordan says:

        BS the dummy,

        Ted Ginn had an offer from the Niners. He weighed their offer and went to visit other teams because he wanted someone to guarentee him a role as a wide receiver. After all, you can’t make the big bucks in the NFL returning kicks. Use some common sense before you post sometimes. Your idiotic posts kill me.
        The interview was here a week ago with Ted Ginn. He was promised that he would get his reps with the offense this year.
        Remember BS, QUALITY not quantity. We know you’re the official blog bum. Now you’re solidifying your role as blog dummy as well. WAKE UP!

    • 23jordan says:

      Medic,

      Ted Ginn is not getting cut from this team. He did have options last year to sign with other teams. He resigned with the Niners in part because JH told him he would get reps at wide receiver Jack Hammer. He will play wide receiver this year and if he got cut, some other team would pick him up. Having conversations with the dimmest (BS) poster on this blog will rub off on you. Be careful.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Jordan,

        He will have a role there, but his primary role will be as a return man. That was my point. Disagree?

      • 23jordan says:

        Jack,

        You’re right, that is definitely his primary role. On offense, he can be a weapon if Moss demands a double. Can you imagine moss, Ginn, and Vd running underneath or on a wheel routeunder them. VD will have a field day against any linebacker!

      • Alex Smith says:

        I know I can’t wait to check-down to Gore and Hunter with all these weapons flying around!

      • Alex Smith says:

        Yeah, for sure. Definetly

      • DS94everXev says:

        How old are you?

        I remember when JM threw to the RB (RC) so much, he gained 1000 yards receiving and 1000 rushing. First ever to do so. And back then, we fans were proud about it.

        Now, we hate it. Or no. We just hate anything. No real reason at all. Yep. If FG or KH gained a 1000 yards rushing and 1000 yards receiving, it is a failure on the QB.

        Whatever.

  11. Frank says:

    KW has more team value than Ginn…because he’s a viable WR, whereas TG just isn’t. Watching Kyle in Denver on Sunday, he looked like a very confident punt returner. Fans need to move on from his fumbles in the playoffs…he’s human, made some mistakes, but he’s a skilled player and deserves a 2nd chance. As for Dobbs, yeah, if he’s out for long that can mess with the DL rotation. Tukuafu may need to fill in the gap. This is just one example why keeping 4 QB’s isn’t viable.

    • 23jordan says:

      Frank,

      Did you not see Williams run into that crowd trying to field a punt in the Denver game? He does not have a feel for where he is on the field compared to the defenders coming downfield.

    • Nick says:

      My issue with KW returning punts is with his judgement. He has a history of making bad decisions and there are no indications to suggest he’s improved in that area.

    • FDM says:

      Frank, stay away from welcher willy 23jordan, he is nothing but negative all day everyday. Every player he discusses has fault, never an upside to anyone except his boy Johnson who will need a huge week in camp and the 4th PS game to just make the team.

      If Im JJ, Im asking my agent, why the hell diid we sign in SF to be a possible #3, and now not even dress on game days and or looking for another team? At least in TB he was the #2, maybe a bad move and like they say, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

      • exgolfer says:

        FDM,

        I don’t think staying in TB as the #2 QB was an option for JJ.

      • DS94everXev says:

        JJ was let go. The Bucs has no further interest in him.

      • 23jordan says:

        FDM, BS, ex gofer.
        My cronies at work again. You dudes never quit. Recognize the truth when you see it. Average QB are just that , average. Josh is average, so is Alex. Hopefully Josh has some upside. We know Alex is at his ceiling. Go Niners!

      • FDM says:

        Oh now JJ is average, last year and the start of camp he was to be the new starter of the 49ers, he was gonna win the job in camp, you just wait and see you said?
        23welcher, your a joke with all your predictions and assumptions, go play son, the kids are calling you, the big boys dont have time for your childish act anymore.You have solidified your rep on this blog as a nobody!

      • Prime Time says:

        A lot of us are watchin and waiting to see if 23welcher is gonna own up to his bet. Probably not but what else would you expect from Mr. Promises Promises!

      • DS94everXev says:

        23welcher

        Quite a list there. Maybe we’re right. FDM tells the truth. Are you becoming flip flop #2 here? Nobody said anything bad about JJ. Only that TB cut him. They did. Remember how happy you were? Afterall he isn’t ever a Niner if they didn’t.

        Hate. Gets in the way of the things you are/were happy about.

      • claude balls says:

        @Prime Time

        A lot of us are watchin and waiting to see if 23welcher is gonna own up to his bet

        What are you talking about? He’s been welching for the past 5 months.

      • 23jordan says:

        BS,

        Still reading my posts. You have to be a sleepy little alien. You’ve been on the blog for 4 weeks straight. Do you ever sleep? Get a job! Damn, give it a break. You’ve not signed out ever since you signed up. Grant owes you your own blog entry, like the one he gave Niner Girl and you were so jealous. Hahaha. You’re the dumberst poster on the entire blog. Alex Smith should have you on the payroll by now. You defend the average QB religiously. At least is above bust status now. Barely!

      • FDM says:

        23willy welcher, attack DS all you want, you just look dumber and dumber with every insult. You will never be anything more than a joke around here. Who listens to you anyways, maybe Hof, Bayarea and MD? Thats about it? You will say you dont care, well none of us care about you either so leave now and welch somewhere else.

      • DS94everXev says:

        23welcher

        Average post:

        Hate hate hate.

        Hate hate.
        Hate hate hate hate hate. HATE!

        And you need to stop talking to yourself. “BS” Well you got the “S” part down pat. No argument here. Though a bull vs. you. I’d like to see that. Then you disappear forever. Happy times.

      • Prime Time says:

        Look out fellas, 23welch might unleash a fury that has never been seen before, Buwhahahahahaha!!!!!!!

      • DS94everXev says:

        Prime

        He has. Then he promised not to do so again. Then he did.

        He’s consistent. Welched before. Welch now. And well into the future.

      • exgolfer says:

        Jordan,

        I really don’t know why you played the “ex gofer” card. And I’m not talking about your misspelling of “ex gopher”.

        It seemed from FDM’s post that he assumed that JJ could’ve stayed in TB, if he had chosen to do so. I was simply saying that I didn’t believe JJ didn’t had that option.

        It was not a slam at you. You’re sort of like the Padres, so consistently bad, that you just feel sorry for them.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        Zing! Being compared to the Padres…I mean ouch!

      • 23jordan says:

        My minions,

        I miss you clowns as well. FDC, you kill me son. Still waiting for me to disappear? I’ll be here all year son.I don’t post in hopes you read it. Although I know you will. I love my faithful followers. In case you don’t know who they are, they are the Smithers. FDM, Claude, Prime, BS the idiot blog bum. Poor crowd you are, but faithful. I like it. Where will you go when Smith is gone this year. Best believe I can’t wit for the regular season.
        Ineffective Alex will once again put himself under the microscope this year. He will underacheive playing against superior QB’s. You clowns are about to find out how really sad and weak Smith. Weak one Aaron Rodgers. Which week do we bring in Kap in the red zone?? Smith is clueless down there!!!

        Ex,

        Look up who the Buc’s 2nd string QB is. Look up his stats. That will tell you whether Josh had an opportunity to go back to the Bucs. Case closed.

      • exgolfer says:

        Jordan,

        I’m not commenting on if it was wise for the Bucs to cut ties with JJ, but the facts are, that they did. When they signed Orlovsky, it was, “it’s over, Johnnie, it’s over!” for JJ in TB. Not a dig at JJ, just the truth.

      • 23jordan says:

        Ex,

        I’ll try this one more time. Josh and TB talked. Josh informed them that he was lookinhg for a team that would give him an opportunity to START at QB. TB told JOSH, we have a starter. He turned down the backup job with TB. He will bo on an NFL roster this year. Don’t be surprised if its this one.
        He missed 2 deep balls in the preseason. Don’t be fooled, he throws the best deep ball on this team. That is a fact. He will land on his feet because he has NFL talent. If he’s not on this team, JH will hear his name in the future. Harbaugh knows there are a lot worse in this league, maybe on this roster. Time will tell. Cream rises to the top.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Latino

        Cream rises to the top hehh?

        Well AS has now signed his 4th contract with us (including 1 re-negotiation).

        Might be right about this one.

      • exgolfer says:

        Jordan,

        Your account of JJ leaving TB is possible, I suppose, but it’s in direct conflict with the TB-SP Times account of the situation. They clearly report that TB cut ties with JJ, not the other way around.

        On the other hand, maybe I shouldn’t be so quick to totally discount your goofy opinions, I mean, insights, given your vast network of insiders and your ability to correctly analyze the facts. Not!

      • exgolfer says:

        Jordan,

        I just realized who you remind me of, Don Quixote.

        BTW, if JH decides to keep JJ, that’s fine with me. I have nothing against him. It just sounds like ST is ahead of him for the third QB spot. We’ll see.

  12. Jt_oSnowlovan says:

    Shouldn’t have cut Tyms. Niners are short on big-bodied WRs and if Moss goes down or implodes, we’ll be stuck with a bunch of midgets at the position. Tyms will be a star WR in this league in a couple of years. Stupid move HarBaalke

    • Jack Hammer says:

      Cutting Tyms now doesn’t mean they won’t re-sign him to the PS this weekend.

    • Crab15 says:

      Jt – Tyms will get snatched up by another team. Physically, Tyms is the most talented wr on this team (big 6-3, strong, fast & very athletic). Like I said yesterday, he reminds me of a young T.O.
      Probably won’t make practice team either, damnit.
      Too bad he’s so raw. Tyms needs time. :-)

      • Medic One says:

        I agree Tyms is a little rough around the edges but the upside if you can hide him on a roster is amazing.

        I think Ginn might be cut just because his return game isn’t worth more to the team than depth at other positions. When you only weigh 180 lbs, your body just can’t take the pounding. This is much the same reason that the cut athlete doesn’t make it on survivor. That extra weight is padding and energy storage.
        The NFL is faster and bigger. The athletes on ST are getting even bigger. They have some other options for the long term in James and Jenkins. They have a better receiver in Williams who is capable at returning kicks. He is playing with a chip on his shoulder. That’s great for the team. Monday will tell though.

  13. Ninermd says:

    But you dont like how AS plays sometimes? Sounds like a Hating little punk to me also. Sucks when you call fans out and you arent fully happy also. Isnt it? Let me help you with that foot in your mouth. Im sure you were hurt when Rachel was cut.

  14. 23jordan says:

    Off topic but has anyone noticed this. Our # 1 offense has looked for the most part like it did last year. Funny that we are saying the same things that we were saying last year this time. JH doesn’t want to show anything. After week 8 last year, we were still saying that we don’t want to show much.
    We really didn’t try and open a game passing the football until the 1st giant game last year. I’m not certain that we are going to be airing it out again this year. Our running game is being built to run the ball all day. I hope we can. I don’t even want to have to see Smith throw the football more than 18 times a game.

    • Ninermd says:

      Starting to look that way. Im wondering that if this kind of offense is still being used when the regular season starts, is it play calling? or no trust or production from the qb they want to see? Doesnt make sense to go out and get speed on the outside to run the ball and play short and clock managing Offense. Its still a mystery, cant wait till next Sunday! If we cant punk GB’s defense. Its going to be a long season for the offense. imo

      • 23jordan says:

        MD,

        Just remember how much $$$ these players we picked up costs us. We picked up Moss, Manninggam and Jenkins. How much did the cost us? 4-5 million total? They are decoys for Alex Smith and this offense. They are gonna be used to keep 10 guys out of the box on D. so we can run the life out of the ball.

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      “After week 8 last year, we were still saying that we don’t want to show much.”

      Jordo, do you think the shortened season had something to do with their style of play last year? Do you think they brought in RM, MM, BJac, AJJ, etc, with a plan in mind? Other than the VD touchdown, do you think they ran their normal offense with the number ones in the preseason games? Do you think they will need to change the offense and attack weaknesses because the excellent teams they play this season will force them to do so?

      • FDM says:

        Hof all valid questions, unfortunately you are asking the wrong guy!
        Your conversing with a hater, has he ever given an intellectual response consistently without throwing jabs at Alex and then turning it into namecalling garbage? Your waisting your time with this guy.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @FDM
        +1

      • 23jordan says:

        FDC,

        Forever my lap dog. I expect you to follow me around all year. With all the clowns talking about not reading my posts, I can always count on you to try and save the world. Thanks son, heres a treat, now go outside and dig a hole!

  15. Jack Hammer says:

    With all of the discussion on who will get cut and who will stay it should be noted that there are only a few spots on the roster still in question. Here is how I see them playing out.

    QB – 3rd spot – Tolzien/Johnson – Edge Tolzien
    RB – 5th spot/ST – Cartwright/Dixon – Close call. Give edge to Cartwright based on special teams play.
    WR – Set
    TE – Reuland/Dobbs – I see both making the team, with Reuland as the 3rd TE and Dobbs coming in for heavy packages.
    OL – Mostly Set – Only question is will they carry 8 or 9. If they carry 9 does Netter get it over Person.
    DL – Mostly Set – Only question is will they carry 6 or 7. If they carry 7 Williams is in, if they go with 6 Williams is out.
    CB – Set
    ILB – Set
    OLB – Carry 3 or 4. If they carry 4 will it be Bakhtiari or new signing.

    All this leads to about 5 spots remaining. Thoughts?

    • Grant Cohn says:

      You think Tramaine Brock will make the team?

      • brotha Tuna says:

        I’m guessing Brock survives the next cutdown, but not necessarily the week that follows final cuts; could add someone in his place.

      • FDM says:

        Im not sure if Brock makes they team, but they will need another corner considering all the pass happy teams we play. Anybody that you see out there the Niners would be interested in? Vontae Davis would have been a good fit right now.

      • AES* says:

        I believe Brock makes the team. We should note that the defense did not plan for Denver.

        T.Brock seems to play much better with a defined game plan.

        If our offense get’s a free pass for playing vanilla, why not the defense?

      • FDM says:

        AES, we apparently didnt game plan against DEN, but Brock was late on everything. Sure the film helps to an extent but he got beat and picked on every time to the guy he was covering. No coincidence that he gave up a big reception in the NFC championship game when Brown got hurt. Just saying, we might need to find another 5/6th corner.

      • Prime Time says:

        FDM don’t mess with my main man Brock. Everyone struggled against DEN. If any team is gonna find a weakness in our D, it will be Brock but the guy is tough and will be a good 5th corner in this system. He’s young, give him time.

      • exgolfer says:

        Prime,

        Why is Brock your main man?

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Grant,

        They are going to carry 5 CB’s. If they release Brock who do you see filling that spot, someone released from another team?

      • Prime Time says:

        I think Brock is gonna be a good corner. He almost won the job over Culliver last year if he didn’t get hurt. He has struggled but he is tough, plays big for his size and can run pretty well. I like him, always have and hopefully he can earn his way on.
        Im also related to him just like 23welcher is to Josh Johnson!

      • MidWestNiner says:

        I think the game against the Chargers will be the deciding factor in whether Brock stays or goes. If he struggles against backups and/or scrubs…well, do I really need to say any more?

      • rocket says:

        I’m not sure who they have to replace Brock is the real question. He was awful on Sunday but they cut the next guy on the list in Nelms so unless they have a guy in mind that is a first year player or they are hoping for waiver wire scraps, I would guess Brock makes it. As the 5th CB he won’t play much if at all anyway.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        It depends on who becomes available after the final cuts that the Niners FO might have their eyes on.

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      Jack, looks good. My questions would be at TE and RB. LDavis played some TE against the Broncos so something may be happening there perhaps to save another position player. In terms of RB, ADix has played special teams the last few years and I haven’t seen RC’s play stand out for the ST during the preseason. I still believe they go with age and keep ADix.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Hofer,

        L Davis playing TE will have no effect on Reuland. They made it a point of emphasis on Sunday to work on their short yardage heavy packages, of which Davis would slide to TE, just like they did at times last year.

        The question is, do they want to go with only 2 TE’s and risk an injury to VD or DW leaving them short handed in the middle of a game?

        As for Cartwright/Dixon, like I said Sunday, I go with the younger guy if it is at a position that I need to develop, like QB/WR, but RB’s are a dime a dozen and the 5th RB spot is more about ST’s, and Cartwright is considered a ST’s ace.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Jack, we’ll find out in 3 days. Some good talent will get away and will help some other teams but that characterizes a good NFL team that is loaded.

    • Medic One says:

      Jack,

      Great list. I think there are some areas that could make it fun to talk about for a week while we wait for the season to start.

      WR I believe is anything but set. Randy Moss doesn’t seem to be connecting with Smith or fit in this offense. His contract isn’t guaranteed until week 1.

      At the begining of the season, I was sure Dixon was gone. He came on strong in the last two games. I think all the movement in big packages could lead to some of these DE’s playing FB and Dixon being cut. I am not as sure as I was 3 weeks ago though.

      CB’s hopfully aren’t set. I think the team will be fishing on the waiver wire to see what they can get or who they can trade to pick up some more depth.

      I think they carry extra OL and DE because of the versatility they have in those guys playing other positions.

  16. old coach says:

    The way ginn hurt his ankle i’m afraid he has a stephen curry ankle. the look on his face was oh no not this again. if it is chronic we either have to live with kw or watch the waiver wires closely. i’m not sold on lamichael or aj as punt returners.

  17. Coffee's for closers says:

    Here’s my 53

    QB: Smith, Kaep, Tolz,
    RB: Gore, Hunter, Jacobs, James, Miller, Cartwright
    WR: Moss, Crab, Mann, Ginn, Jenkins, Williams
    TE: Davis, Walker, Reuland, (dobbs-counted on DL)
    OL: Staley, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone, Davis, L. Davis, Kilgore, Looney, Netter*
    LS: Jennings

    LB: Willis, Bowman, Smith, Grant, Brooks, Haralson, Bakhtiari*, Alama-F*
    DL: Smith, RJF, McDonald, Dobbs, Sopoaga, Tukuafu
    CB: Rogers, Brown, Culliver, Cox, Brock*
    S: Whitner, Goldson, Spillman*, Robinson*
    P: Lee
    K: Akers

    * Tenuous, might be replaced after other teams cut down on Friday.

    • Grant Cohn says:

      It’s looking like Dixon will make the team.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        I’ve thought that all along. If they keep RC, then they have FG, KH, LMJ, and RC – BJac is the only back with any size. ADix complements BJac in case of injury.

      • Grant Cohn says:

        That’s how I see it, too.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        Rock is 5’8 215 and Dixon is 6’0 at 233. 233 is more but 215 on 5’8″ is a big load not trying to nitpick but it seems like Cartwright has size also.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        Not sure why I’m arguing, I’d prefer to see Dixon make the team anyway I just figured that Rock’s ability to contribute on special teams would give him an edge over a guy who seems like he’s been on the bubble this year sans one decent preseason performance against scrubs.

      • Grant Cohn says:

        Dixon’s a good special teamer, too.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        I just read Maiocco’s report, guess it’s all moot since he’s on the team.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        Geez, here’s another wrong one for me : “-Outside linebacker Eric Bakhtiari sustained a concussion that might make it even more difficult for him to earn a roster spot. Bakhtiari got hit in the head by Will Tukuafu’s knee as both were pursuing Broncos running back Knowshon Moreno early in the second quarter. Bakhtiari was among the Kansas City Chiefs’ first cuts a year ago following the third exhibition game after sustaining a concussion in the first game. Also, he sustained a concussion in his first NFL game with the Tennessee Titans in 2009.”

        Guess I’ll have to wait for more of Matt’s reports before I try anymore roster predictions.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        What that means is that he might not make the team due to that. If he’s out for the rest of the preseason due to the concussion, his chances of making the team lessen even more.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        Dixon needs to have another solid game playing RB and FB in order to up his chances of making the team. If he struggles at even one of those positions, then he’ll probably be cut loose. To sum it up, he has to stand out.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        GC said: “Dixon’s a good special teamer, too.”

        OK, I guess I could have come up with better reasons then. At the time I hadn’t seen Maiocco’s report and had to guess, probably would have been better off flipping a coin.

    • Coffee's for closers says:

      It would help some of my decisions if I could see what they’re paragraph 5 says but I gave Rock the nod because of his special teams play.

    • Jack Hammer says:

      Coffee,

      Our 53 man rosters are almost identical. ILB T Gooden will make the team as a backup and special teams as well.

  18. MidWestNiner says:

    Can someone please tell me how the topic of current injuries is connected to Alex Smith?

    • claude balls says:

      @MidWestNiner:

      Because everything that goes wrong for the 49ers is Smith’s fault. Didn’t you get the memo?

    • MidWestNiner says:

      I did, but my secretary filed it under the OBSESSED section. I hardly review anything in that section.

      • rocket says:

        I do, every 30 seconds after I’ve run around the room 3 times, poked myself in the eye, and whispered I want winners.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        No Singletary doll or picture to chant I want winners to Rocket? LOL

  19. Razoreater says:

    Could Ikaika Alama-Francis with another strong performance against the Chargers make this team?

    • MidWestNiner says:

      If he has another strong outing and remains healthy.

    • brotha Tuna says:

      Yes, especially now that Baktiari is dinged. Another guy though who might hold a spot for only a few days if the right guy gets waived. Nothing against him; Fangio seemed to think he did ok on short notice.

    • Nick says:

      Fangio wasn’t so high on this guy after the last game, but could change with a solid performance and the injury situation at OLB

  20. old coach says:

    Either you believe in Harbaugh or you do’nt. Alex Smith is our starter because Harbaugh believes he excecutes his game plan well. untill Harbaugh makes a change you have to assume Harbaugh is happy with his play. observing what JH did at san diego, stanford and last yr with the 9ers i believe he is an outstanding coach. so as long as AS is our starter i will support him. if harbaugh benches him for kap then kap is my man.

  21. Coffee's for closers says:

    Cooley released from the ‘Skins. Thinking the Cards will at least give him a workout.

  22. FDM says:

    Grant if you ask this question to Greg roman this week, it will take you to stratospheric heights career wise.
    Last week Roman talked about how Alex has learnt the offense and is now an expert and at times able to be creative and savant like smart with it. Can you ask Roman what has he learnt about Alex over the past year and half and how has that helped develop the offense to his strengths? What Im getting at is if they are continually trying to run the ball, is that a reflection of Alex’s limitations or why has the offense really looked the same after a year and half?
    Im telling you, this is gold and every 49er fan wants to know. Just ask me if you need more extradordinary questiosns to ask!

    • ribico says:

      >>What Im getting at is if they are continually trying to run the ball

      If Grant makes that assumption through 3 weeks of preseason, asking a question based on that will take his career somewhere alright. Not in places he wants it to go though.

    • Nick says:

      A better way to ask the question is – as Jerry Rice put it – is it time to take the diaper off Alex Smith?

      • Bayareafanatic says:

        +1

      • FDM says:

        Rib, vanilla or not, game plan or not, they have had many opportuntities to try and convert some 3rd and longs in 3 games. You know the down that they struggled mightly last year. You need to work on those things in preseason. I dont care what anyone says about not showing it, you need live reps in order to know where your faults are in excecution. Practice is great, but it still simulation.
        They are adamant about running it on 1st down, then again on 2nd down, then leaving themselves in unmangeable 3rd down. There gonna get Alex killed and expose an already weak offensive line.

  23. DS94everXev says:

    “Let’s bear in mind, that Troy Aikman has a SB and HOF on his resume. ”

    Precisely. That was my point when I commented what he said at the title game about the WR’s not getting open. Of course, you dismissed that comment completely. You come up with all sorts of comments from Niner coaches/players who praise MC (and they haven’t said anything bad about anybody too by the way), but when an outsider who has nothing to gain/lose who is a HOF QB with 3 Super Bowl titles says a nice comment about AS, you give me this BS about taking his comment with a grain of salt.

    You’re missing some brain cells up there if you don’t think what Troy said of AS is true. He knows better than you and houston and me and prime do. Just so happens, his position is similar to ours, so you claim it isn’t worthy of any significance.

    Not “All In” are we.

  24. AES says:

    You guys get way too disturbed over anything that touches your AS shrine.

    What about my comment was hate related?
    I don’t see where there was a dig at Alex but hey, if you two want need to cry wolf at every mention of AS’ name, be guess (lol).

  25. DS94everXev says:

    AES

    You have given us crap for not being as “in” as you are regarding MC. Then if somebody brings up a nice compliment about AS, you freak out and come around and in the most non-All In way, say that comment should best be forgotten and not taken seriously.

    If JR said the same thing about MC (his career or last year was like my career), you’d be all over that spewing it out every 5 seconds. But since it was about AS, a guy who you are still very much not all in with, you felt the urge to post a reply. You could have left it alone. But you didn’t. You could have left a compliment for the leader of the team alone, but you wanted to bash him a bit. heck, you might have even joined in and said “Heck yes! I’m Mr. All In, and I loved when Aikman said that. Good times are a coming!” But you didn’t do that neither.

    What a joke. Webster Dictionary is going to need your picture for “hypocrite”. Or at least some of your posts.

  26. Ray P. says:

    No worries about Kyle Williams returning punts against GB. If the defense doesn’t play better against Aaron Rodgers, there’ll be no punts to return!

  27. MidWestNiner says:

    Off topic, but I found this article and figured I’d share it with everybody.

    http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2012/08/gather-round-rookies-tolzien-shares-his-fourth-game-story.html

    • claude balls says:

      @Grant:

      Yeah, Easterbrook has been pushing that idea for years. It’s a fairly compelling argument too.

  28. Grant Cohn says:

    Maiocco says all the Niners cuts cleared waivers.

  29. AES* says:

    @DS/Prime

    Almost forgot %^%$^!
    “ALL IN!” (with ALL 49ers players)!

    • DS94everXev says:

      @AES

      “Almost forgot %^%$^!
      “ALL IN!” (with ALL 49ers players)!”

      And we are the ones who are too disturbed here?

      Very convincing argument you made. I’ll have to reconsider my stance. Are you a politician speech writer? It would be fitting if you were.

  30. Ninermd says:

    Oh god. Will ds ever shut up?

    • DS94everXev says:

      will md go a day and not bring me up?

      • Ninermd says:

        Yes ds, when you get lost or shut up. Get a job!

      • DS94everXev says:

        Or you can just ignore me. Just like you ignore any decency rules.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Doesn’t DS work for the PD? He adds 120+ (100 comments himself) to the blog everyday. jk jk lol

      • Ninermd says:

        Kind of hard when 80 percent of the posts is your whining and moaning. Talk about a welcher. What happened to YOU ignoring me? You have stated that you would and have several times. How about you stick to your word Welcher?

      • Ninermd says:

        Hof…….You werent kidding. That 120+ is a sad sad fact. Keep it real Hof.

        Ps now its going to get its feelings hurt. Way to go Hoff. lol

      • DS94everXev says:

        hof

        Not talking to myself man. Everybody complains about it till I don’t reply to them. Then they cry about me not replying to them.

        And I do quite a bit of things. Not going to let the blog know. All anyone knows here is that I am a Niner fan. And I like it that way.

        And md.

        Keep to yourself for a day. Then do the same the next. Pretty soon, it will become second nature to you to leave me alone. Just the way I want it.

  31. Ninermd says:

    Aikman was overrated. Never would have been anything without ES and that O-line and defense. Are any of you sure you want to compare Smith to Aikman? From what I see, and Ill use every excuse Ive heard is that, Aikman had the same O.C, Talent around him, solid ownership, solid and same coaching and so on…….. For Aikman or anyone to say that is ridiculous. Not even in the same ball park. How about WE say Smith’s career is like Smiths career? Nobody had one like him.

  32. 23jordan says:

    Tolzein is 15-26 123 yards and 1 int. 53.8 QB rating, which is the worst of the 4 quarterbacks, but he beats out Josh Johnson on potential? Bwahahaha.

  33. AES* says:

    DS94everXev says:
    August 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm
    23welcher
    “Quite a list there. Maybe we’re right. FDM tells the truth. Are you becoming flip flop #2 here? Nobody said anything bad about JJ. Only that TB cut him. They did. Remember how happy you were? Afterall he isn’t ever a Niner if they didn’t.
    Hate. Gets in the way of the things you are/were happy about.”

    @DS
    You would do well to flip-flop on your opinion of Crabtree. Didn’t you imply that MC might get beat out by a free agent WR about a month ago?

    Or was it you that continued to ask the annoying tired ol’ question of ‘who are our Starting WR’s?’ Your little grandstanding MC propaganda hate inferences didn’t go over very well did it (lol).

    I know you’ve been waking up every morning hopeing that Harbaugh names someone else besides MC as his Starter. Ah, ain’t happening DS!

    Two things you can bank on this year.
    1. MC will be the Starter
    2. No one but you will compare AS to Joe Montana
    Hey, I wouldn’t be mad if you flip-flop on these opinions. Actually, this would start of the long and arduous process of gaining some of your credibility back bud (lol).

    • DS94everXev says:

      AES

      I said he isn’t 100% assured of starting. Never said 100% he won’t be. I said TC determines all. You cried about it. About competition determining the best. You still are.

      Way to change the topic to MC. Can you think of anybody else?

  34. AES says:

    Hammer,
    As a wise person, I’m sure you’ve heard the old bible verse; “he who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”

    There is just a very small handful of bloggers here that have not mixed it up with other bloggers. With all due respect, you are not one of them.
    But I can respect your concern.

  35. ToneDru says:

    Hey everyone, I’m a commissioner of one of a 49ers Fan fantasy league and we still have a couple more spots to fill up.

    go to yahoo fantasy football and the league# is 403777, password: go49ers. The draft is TONIGHT at 9pm Eastern time (that’s 6pm for all you west coast guys). Hurry and sign up because I’ll have to open it up to the public in another hour or so to make sure there are 12 teams in the league.