Carlos Rogers on Moss, Crabtree and Greg Jennings

SANTA CLARA – Carlos Rogers spoke in the media tent Wednesday afternoon. He said Randy Moss looks much faster than he did in training camp, and Rogers explained what makes Packers’ wide receiver Greg Jennings tough to cover. Here’s a transcript.

Q: Were you just as curious as everybody else to see what Randy Moss had left when he showed up in April?

ROGERS: Yeah, I was, but once I saw his 40 (yard dash) time, I pretty much knew what I was going to get facing him. Even right now I was asking him, “Were you holding something back in training camp?” He looks much faster and much quicker in these practices after training camp.

Q: What’s unique about Greg Jennings? What makes him tough to cover?

ROGERS: He’s got a quarterback who’s going to give him a lot of chances. If it’s one-on-one, he’s going to put that ball up so the receiver can make a play. He’s quick, he’s fast, he’s got a very high IQ of offense and he understands defenses. He’s a wide receiver who knows what he’s going to get from the defense pre-snap by the look of the nickel or maybe the corner or maybe the safety – he knows what his route is going to be right then and there. He’s got a quarterback who’s on the same page, and it makes him much better.

Q: Crabtree says he’s stronger this year. Have you noticed that in practice?

ROGERS: We don’t compete as much when it comes to the physical play. I’ve seen that he has gotten a lot faster. His strength on the field, I hope the other team is able to see that.

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136 Responses to Carlos Rogers on Moss, Crabtree and Greg Jennings

  1. DS94everXev says:

    Actually I hope the other team can’t see that MC is faster/stronger. It will help us.

  2. Tony A says:

    I also hope Crabtree is stronger and faster, but I also hope he doesn’t drop as many balls too. With Moss’ mentorship, this should be the year he “breaks out”.

  3. Crab15 says:

    You guys live Cowgirl blogging? I’d like to see that twit Jerry Jones go 0-1!

  4. Crab15 says:

    Queen Latifah singing national anthom? What the? Dreadful

    • Prime Time says:

      Crabs, prediction Sunday?

      • Neal says:

        My prediction Primate is that you will be in the Animal Shelter on Sunday and no wants to adopt you.

      • Crab15 says:

        Prime – S.F. 27 GB 24. Niners need to score first (TD no FG) to take the cheesehead crowd out of the game early.

      • Prime Time says:

        I like it Crabs! I see a low scoring game only because both offenses won’t be in midsession form. Could be a blessing for us. One thing I would like to see early is for us to get a quick turnover in the 1st Q and a big special teams play. Those are momentum building plays that will quiet the crowd and give us some early confidence.

      • Crab15 says:

        Prime – Good stuff, you may be right about lower score. Usually defenses are more ready than offenses first game. Similar to MLB, pitchers are a little behind the hitters early in the season. Especially in Spring training.
        GB defense is not frightening to me though.

      • Prime Time says:

        A key matchup for me is who will blocking Clay Matthews? Staley or Davis will have a long day.

    • big niner says:

      @ Prime, you slow clay down by running at him, draws, sprints and off tackle stuff.

  5. Crab15 says:

    Victor Cruz leads the league in drops already fellas.

  6. Crab15 says:

    Romo doing what he does best, choking! Such an overrated QB year after choking year.
    The guy can pull chicks though!

  7. Ribico says:

    Ok announcers, stop gushing over Eli’s 4th quarter play. Don’t you know comebacks are a sign of QB weakness?

    • Prime Time says:

      What about 6 comebacks, does that count for anything?

      • Ribico says:

        Nope prime. It just means it’s a failure directly attributed to the QB, that he couldn’t engineer a bigger lead. Or so I’ve read around here.

      • Prime Time says:

        Yeah that’s right Rib, but my favorite of all time is the game is way different at the stadium then it is on TV. This whole time we viewers on the television are not seeing the real 49ers. Apparently WR’s were running wild, free and open during the NFC Championship game last year, go figure?

  8. Jack Hammer says:

    “What makes him tough to cover?”

    “He’s got a quarterback who’s going to give him a lot of chances. If it’s one-on-one, he’s going to put that ball up so the receiver can make a play.”

    Dang, I sure hope he is #1 in the progression, and doesn’t his QB know that it’s not ok to take chances with the ball?

  9. ninermd says:

    First there was rashaad with Jordan
    Then there was madden with favre
    NOW it’s Collinsworth with Eli.
    Get off his nuts!

    On another note. These refs are atrocious. I hope to hell we don’t get this crew on sunday

  10. ninermd says:

    Gotta say I hate his old lady faces on the sidelines, but coughlan knows how to adjust at half. I hope harbaugh and company continue their halftime adjustments also.

  11. DS94everXev says:

    I guess the producers didn’t check with this blog about 4th quarter comebacks not being largely attribued to the QB. EM had 6. Same problem as AS. Failed to get a large enough lead for the defense early on I must conclude.

    • Prime Time says:

      DS, how bout this one: Harbaugh will limit Moss catches because the last thing coach wants is to hear the boo birds get after Alex if he does not connect with Moss enough?

      • DS94everXev says:

        I prefer the RM one where he signed hoping AS isn’t the QB. And feels that AS can’t give him the ball.

        Yeah. RM chooses a team which has a QB he doesn’t believe in and thinks can’t give him the ball. Very plausible I say.

    • ninermd says:

      Yep every qb should fail to put teams away with a 13 point ceiling and 5 turnovers in a game. Yeah I’d bet your life that Manning, brees, Rogers, Brady, big Ben, Ryan and even newton couldn’t do that. It’s impossible for the elites to get that done. But hey I’m sure if they read most of the crap you post on here, they would laugh at “so called” 49er fans. It’s about time they went out into Free agency and put pieces together for the 29th ranked defense we had last season… Oh my bad. They went and looked at another qb and recievers. Go figure!

    • DS94everXev says:

      @oneniner

      The exact quote was a fragmented sentence. Didn’t make sense as a direct quote.

      Shocking, I know. But he confirmed the message as that which I derived. Basically AS failed to get a large enough lead for the defense to hold. So, it was AS’s fault for losing leads even though the D’s job is to prevent the opposition from scoring and the D wasn’t put into bad positions pretty much once all year long by an AS TO.

      How did you get the banned info? Hardly surprising.

    • DS94everXev says:

      Very interesting that somebody gave it to you.

    • Jack Hammer says:

      Oneniner says..”I made friends on here with a few posters in the past, most of them don’t show up here anymore..” SHOCKING…LOL : )

  12. undercenter says:

    Four wake ups and some hours and the Niners new season beginsl.

  13. Razoreater says:

    Ogletree! Ogletree! Ogletree!

  14. Crab15 says:

    Damnit, now I have to see that Jerry Jones smirk.
    Hope the Giants play like that when they come to S.F.
    Not the same team without Brandon Jacobs & Manningham. :-)

  15. SoCal49er4Life says:

    Yup.

  16. exgolfer says:

    Maybe people will wake up to the fact that Eli Manning is quite lucky to have won one SB, let alone two.

    In the first, he made a one in a million play on that pass to Tyree. Then, on the winning TD pass, it was Burress that made the play not Manning. By that I mean Burress was so open, I could’ve completed the pass. Yes, Manning did get it to him, so he gets some credit, but the lion’s share should go to Burress.

    In the second SB, how often does Wes Welker drop any pass he gets two hands on? Almost never. More importantly than that, if the 49ers and refs didn’t gift wrap the NFCCG for the “Elite” Eli, he wouldn’t have even been in the SB, in the first place.

    Though it may sound like it, I’m not bitter about the 49ers losing to the Giants in the NFCCG last year. Not much, anyway. Excuse me, I’m late to stick pins in my Eli Manning and Ref-Who-Blew-An-Early-Whistle-When-Bradshaw-Had-Barely-Been-Hit-And-Was-Still-Fighting-For-Yards voodoo dolls. Not bitter, really.

    • exgolfer says:

      When Eli Manning is done, I hope he’s seen as a Jim Plunkett level QB. Good, not great and on the right team, at the right time.

      • exgolfer says:

        That was too harsh. Eli is between Jim Punkett and Phil Simms.

      • brotha Tuna says:

        @ Exgolfer
        I frequently agree with you on football matters, but maybe not on Eli. I think he’s a guy who makes plays out of nothing when he has to. Being that he can’t break tackles like Big Ben or move around like some quick footed QBs, its interesting that he manages to extend plays and make some terrific throws. Like Plunkett he moves well within the pocket and throws a good long ball, but some of his deep out throws are really, really impressive. Simms could make all the throws and was deadly in the redzone; didn’t hurt having Bavarro.
        Still, imho Eli is already best NYG QB ever and can add to his legacy over more years.
        Last night VC had what? 4 drops? and I think at least two would’ve been 1st downs.

      • exgolfer says:

        Tuna,

        Thanks for the nice words.

        We’re not too far of on our view of EM. I recognize all those qualities you mentioned in EM. He’s also a tough SOB, he takes a pounding and keeps coming back for more.

        What you didn’t mention, though, is his propensity for throwing ill timed INT’s.

      • DS94everXev says:

        brotha

        EM ain’t no small fry either. an arm swipe won’t get him down like it may smaller QB’s.

        He has the same type of calmness that AS has, and it isn’t present in his brother. That is a big reason why I think EM has been so good in the playoffs and PM hasn’t.

      • DS94everXev says:

        ex

        What reasons do you have for whey EM is so good in the playoffs and PM sucks.

        It isn’t luck (EM). It isn’t bad luck (for PM). There is a real substantive reason for why EM has done what he has done in the playoffs and his brother hasn’t.

      • exgolfer says:

        DS,

        Why are you bringing PM into the discussion? I wasn’t offering a comparison between EM and PM.

        There are many potential reasons why. NYG has had better ground games and defenses in their SB years. So, PM has had to do more than EM. Also, PM hasn’t performed as well in the post season, as he has in the regular season.

        Are you saying you don’t think the EM to Tyree pass play was a absolute fluke play? Talent contributed to the play, but it was a prayer.

        And that the NYG’s were even in the SB in February was hugely luck driven, right?

      • DS94everXev says:

        ex

        I’m brining up PM in large part because people do compare the two. Also, to note what I think is a big difference between a QB who isn’t HOF worthy regular season seems so much better than a HOF worthy QB in the regular season then almost always chokes badly.

        Look at it this way. You brought up Jim Plunkett who I think has less in common with EM than does PM.

        EM in both Super Bowl runs had to go on quite a nice winning streak. Facing teams on the road and had to win all of those to get to those Super Bowls where you claim the pass-catch were luck. Luck didn’t get them there. Skill did. If they didn’t have the skill to get there, there would be no luck to be had.

        I bet you Cowboy fans think it was luck we beat them in the 81 Title game. The Catch in particular. EM is 2-2 in the Super Bowl. In each game, he had to make big plays down the stretch. And made them. He could have chocked or not made them. But he did.

        Luck could have fallen our way many times in that game. It didn’t. They beat us. It sucks. I want to rip every one of their limbs off from their bodies for it. if I had it my way, we would play them 16 times this regular season so we can pound them into star dust. But they won. We lost.

      • exgolfer says:

        DS,

        I picked Plunkett because he had two SB wins and not great stats, while benefitting from the team around him. As I said in a succeeding post, that was too harsh of a comparison.

      • 23jordan says:

        DS,

        Alex Smith, calmness?? You gotta be kidding me. Alex is hardly calm. It’s not his fault totally. The man has taken some punisent since he’s been in the league. That makes it difficult to be calm. Alex is actually the other way around. He’s pretty nervous and jittery in the pocket. Partly because it’s not really a pocket! Lol.

      • claude balls says:

        @Hofer:

        Thanks for the information. I look forward to reading it if Grant posts the transcript.

    • Jack Hammer says:

      Sour grapes much Ex?

      • exgolfer says:

        Jack,

        I’ll let you judge for yourself. Venting after listening to a couple of friends who are NYG fans talk crap the whole game.

        But I do believe that EM was on the lucky side to have won two SB’s. There’s a reason why he can’t crack the top level of NFL QB’s, he’s not good enough.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        EM has a career 82.1 rating, but some want to discount that system so he’s still elite. lol

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        You might want to take a look at some of the names that had under 82.1 career QB rating

        Eli Manning 82.1
        42 Ken Anderson 81.9
        43 Neil O’Donnell 81.8
        Bernie Kosar 81.8
        45 Danny White 81.7
        46 Troy Aikman 81.6
        47 Randall Cunningham 81.5
        49 Jake Delhomme 81.3
        50 Boomer Esiason 81.1
        51 Michael Vick 80.9
        Warren Moon 80.9
        53 Damon Huard 80.6
        54 Jeff Hostetler 80.5
        Bart Starr 80.5
        56 Fran Tarkenton 80.4
        59 Steve Beuerlein 80.3
        60 Dan Fouts 80.2
        61 John Elway 79.9

        For camparison. Matthew Staffords current career rating is 84.7 but apparently 82.1 means you’re just LUCKY.

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Hofer,
        it’s not about discounting the system. It’s about dissecting how he went about achieving the rating. Eli IMO is not elite, but he is very very good. Tough as nails, stands in the pocket time and time again and takes his shots. His PRODUCTION speaks for itself.

        He doesn’t have a QBR beefed up on high safe completions that don’t move the chains. He isn’t a bottom dweller in yardage and scoring production. Get off the protection of Smith already. Smith has the WR and IMO will still under utilize those weapons. Hope I am wrong.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        Tony Romo’s career rating is 96.9. He’s been on better teams then Eli and still has zero SuperBowls but I guess it’s only because Eli has more luck then Tony?

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        C4C,

        You weren’t in the initial discussion thus you missed the point of my tongue in cheek EManning comment. Thanks for the info.

        Bay, I agree, EM is not elite. He is very good and makes clutch plays. He didn’t have to play like his brother to win two SBs. EM has had some excellent receiving weapons the last few years – that definitely helps. It may take a couple of games to get the offense going. I think MC and MM will have good games with RM coming up big in the red zone.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Who cares what the career rating is. The only purpose of the regular season is to reach the playoffs. That is it.

        Once there, ratings may matter a bit more.

        hof, I bet EM has better playoff QB ratings than a lot of guys who you think are better. Big problem with comparing stats is that they almost always are regular season only. Playoffs dont seem to matter at all. Which is stupid considering the playoffs are the whole puropose of having a regular season. Football could be win, or you’re done. No regular season at all.

        If you want to use silly stats like QB ratings to determine how good a QB is, as long as he’s been to the playoffs, that is what you should use(and maybe how many times he’s been to the playoffs). Who cares about regular season? Get there, be great there. Like VD was.

      • Crab15 says:

        Coffee – I agree with you on the Romo/Eli comparison. Eli was not lucky to win 2 SB’s and Romo has always been an underachiever.
        Didn’t the QB rating system change in the mid 1970′s? Do you know if has remainded the same since then?
        I know ESPN recently created their own QB ratings system. I don’t follow the ratings systems that close.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Crab,

        It has been the same since it’s inception in the early ’70s.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        Hof, I was using the number you posted to make my point(eli is better then avg and isn’t just lucky) and wasn’t meaning to directly retort or respond to your post.

      • claude balls says:

        @bay:

        You still don’t get it. Clearly, you never will.

      • Crab15 says:

        Hammer – I stand corrected. Thanks

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        C4C, got it. It’s interesting that having a 90+ QB rating doesn’t guarantee a SB win. EM had good receivers and a defense with a great pass rush. EM also had very good playoff games. Something TRomo hasn’t done as of yet.

      • exgolfer says:

        Coffee,

        Many of those QB’s you listed are from another era, and their QB ratings aren’t comparable to today’s QB’s, given the substantial rules changes that favor today’s QB’s.

        If you want to take the time, a comparison of a QB’s rating to the league average QB rating, in a given year would be a better way to compare QB’s of different eras [not perfect, just better].

        Look, I’m not saying EM is garbage, he’s obviously a very good QB. He’s just not elite. My post was over the top as I was trying to be humorous [apparently, I failed, miserably]. Note: I don’t really have an EM voodoo doll [although, if anyone can tell me where to get one........].

        Having said that, I stand by my opinion that EM was lucky to win the first SB [see: Tyree's catch] and lucky to even be in the most recent SB, in the first place [see: two fumbled punts, two dropped INT's and one brutal non-fumble call]. Not saying his skill didn’t play a part, just that luck did as well.

        To clarify, I’m not saying he’s successful because he’s lucky, but rather his two SB wins were aided by huge helping of luck.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Well the rules have certainly changed since then. Maybe the rating system should as well.

        After all. Back when, CB’s had a lot more leeway to grab WR’s. And head shots were common. The QB rating does not take this into account. So, comparing stats is useless. Just another reason to use your own analytical skills and trust them over some number which was based on things that were/weren’t allowed that directly tie into it.

      • DS94everXev says:

        @ex

        “Having said that, I stand by my opinion that EM was lucky to win the first SB [see: Tyree's catch] and lucky to even be in the most recent SB, in the first place [see: two fumbled punts, two dropped INT's and one brutal non-fumble call].”

        And JM wasn’t lucky to be in the 81 Super Bowl after throwing 3 Int’s in the Title game? Plus, nobody could have been pissed at DW had he not caught that ball. It wasn’t exactly an easy catch. Or the fumble as Dallas was driving after “The Catch”. Was that luck or skill?

        If you play the luck card, things get fuzzy quickly.

      • claude balls says:

        @Hofer:

        Romo was the only QB with a passer rating > 90 who did not make the playoffs last season.

        http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2011

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        *career 90+ rating doesn’t guarantee a SB win*

      • exgolfer says:

        DS,

        There are odds for the various outcomes of any event. I’ll be the first to acknowledge that JM to DC had a chance of not being completed.

        Having said that, certainly you cannot be comparing the Catch to the Prayer [Manning to Tyree]. JM was rushed but he was never touched and DC didn’t catch the ball against his helmet, while being mugged by a DB. Sorry, the Prayer was an extremely lucky play. There was skill involved, but that play happens one in a thousand times, maybe.

      • exgolfer says:

        Bay,

        My comments about EM had nothing to do with AS. You are looking for witches.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Claude,

        It’s interesting. Your link provides data on the QB rating at 90+ and who made the playoffs last year. TTolbert mentioned this as well on the SYoung show yesterday. The teams that made the playoffs had three things in common:
        - a high turnover ratio
        - QB rating
        - QB efficiency (TD/INT ratio)

        I’d post the link but GC usually posts the transcript. Good listen/read as SY always is.

      • claude balls says:

        @Hofer:

        Thanks for the information. I look forward to reading it if Grant posts the transcript.

        (Sorry for originally posting this comment in the wrong place.)

      • ribico says:

        >>NYG fans talk crap the whole game.

        Wonder what those same NYG fans thought of EM a few years ago. The entire city wanted to run him out on a rail. If it weren’t for the extraordinary circumstances ex details that allowed EM the superbowl wins, they still would be.

      • exgolfer says:

        Can anyone who is saying that EM wasn’t lucky in either of his SB seasons explain to me how the Tyree catch wasn’t a lucky play. Anyone?

      • Crab15 says:

        xgolfer – If David Tyree’s catch made Eli lucky than Dwight Clark & T.O. made Joe Montana & Steve Young lucky too.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Very true crab15

        I bet when a WR makes a great catch, the fans on the team who the WR plays for go “Great! What skill! Way to Go!”

        While the fans of the other team go”Lucky! Not in a million years will that happen again! ”

        So, for me anyway, the two balance one another out, so we are back to no luck. Just how the game unfolded with skill.

      • rocket says:

        exgolfer,

        I know you took it back, but I thought your Plunkett comparison was pretty accurate in regards to Eli. Like Plunkett, Eli is kind of sporadic during the regular season and often the teams playoff success came from being a late seed and winning games on the road. Plunkett’s first SB happened the exact same way.

        Physically they are similar as big guys without much mobility who have strong arms and can make any throw.

        The best attribute both men had however was that they were money players. They could raise the level of their play to match the importance of the game. That is what sets Eli apart from guys like Matt Ryan, Romo, Rivers etc. He can elevate his play at key times and that is a great quality for a player in any sport to have.

      • exgolfer says:

        Crab,

        I’ll be the first to admit The Catch is not a play that would be me made every time, if it was run 100 times. But I’ll tell you one thing, the Prayer, with Tyree pinning the ball against his helmet, was a much longer shot than The Catch.

      • exgolfer says:

        Rocket,

        I took it back, only in the sense that I do think EM>JP, but, as you said, they are very similar QB’s, stylistically. I feel you’re being generous to both. They have both made plays at times, but neither has displayed the sustained excellence of an elite QB.

      • rocket says:

        ex,

        Sustained no, I agree with you there. I just put them in the category of players who rise to the occasion. They play well in big games. Eli is cosistent with his inconsistency during the regular season, but steps it up at playoff time. Plunkett was the same way.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Regarding EM, prior to 2009, his WRs were AToomer and PBurress. When they added more talent and upgraded to HNicks and MManningham (VCruz in 2011), that is when EM’s pass yds went up drastically. He was averaging 3300 yds up to 2008 and 2009 on, he is averaging 4000 yds passing.

        If this year plays out for the 9ers like I think it will, EM’s scenario sounds strikingly familiar to AS situation. He now has more weapons to utilize. Yards should go up accordingly.

  17. ninermd says:

    Lame there is another wanna be niner md on there. Nice try onelame. However you were banned from this sight because you got punked. Fact!!!! Oh and by the way thanks for thinking of me. Ha ha haaaaa

    • DS94everXev says:

      oneniner

      Whether it is this md or not, nobody can really prove. But there is no reason to think it isn’t him judging by his remarks about race/immigrants/and so forth. Not hard to imagine the web-site banning him if he said anything like that there. That is a point.

  18. ninermd says:

    And Its not even the same caps on the name stupid. Ha ha haaaaa.

  19. Crab15 says:

    Currently the Cowgirls have home field advantage throughout playoffs. :-) Enjoy it while you can Jerry, you turd.

  20. AES* says:

    ‘oneparolee’

    Still trying hard to garner a semblence of credibility (lol). Now you have to do a little CSI work to find some dirt on MD.
    Dude, you got banned by M.Maiocco, and recently got exposed by GC.
    You said that the Michigan Wolverines were a “professional” football team (Hahahaha!)

    You also had a fit because your favorite game ‘Madden’ has AS throwing inaccurate passes.
    Wow, you just can’t win bud.

    OABTW, looking at your support group tells me all I need to know about your credibility = O (lol).

    • bayareafanatic says:

      +1

    • claude balls says:

      @AES:

      You may want to be careful about judging other posters’ credibility based upon their “support group.”

      • AES* says:

        Claude,
        The support group I’m alluding too are a handful of posters that I’ve had a few rodeo’ with.
        I know exactly who they are, and I know that they roll with oneniner/latin.

      • DS94everXev says:

        AES

        Why do you continue to put yourself into fights that don’t involve you and then continue this BS that oneniner or person x has no credibility Because I remember you telling me you don’t believe in credibility.

        So, you using the “you have no cred…” remark coming from somebody who doesnt beleive in it, or even that they themselves have it, just comes off in poor taste.

        Like hof said. You’re better than that.

        PS I on the other hand have consistently stated that nobody has any cred here but Grant. And Grant is the only one who has to worry about losing it. Everybody here but Grant are bloggers. Grant is a journalist. A big difference.

      • rocket says:

        DS,

        Why do you continue to put yourself into fights that don’t involve you and then continue this BS that oneniner or person x has no credibility Because I remember you telling me you don’t believe in credibility.

        Is it any different than you injecting yourself into an exchange AES is having with somebody else? I’m noticing a disturbing trend with you DS. You seem to enjoy getting into everyone’s business and then going defensive when they come back at you. I’m no psychologist but that sounds like a clear case of passive/aggressive behavior.

      • DS94everXev says:

        rocket

        Because AES has said that tagline a lot lately. After he told me he doesn’t care about cred.

        Speaking of which, you’re doing the same thing (jumping in there). A day after you said you will avoid the whole mess, you volunatarily jumped right on in there not following your own advice several times. Then you lost your cool with name calling when nobody called you a name. The soap opera came from you. Soap operas work with escalating something. You did that a lot in yesterdays thread in which I didn’t refer to you till you jumped in.

        It is a pattern you’ve displayed a lot lately.

        I asked you once before if you would be willing to take my view and I’d take yours and we can discuss it in a fun way. In a way that doesn’t get any drama or name calling and might be fun instead of the usual “You’re wrong, I’m right” BS. I would have had fun. But you kept the high drama and didn’t do it. It would have added some comedic quality to the discussion. You refused and kept wanting to add the drama. It’s true.

      • DS94everXev says:

        rocket

        By the way, why don’t you try talking football with me? Everything you’ve written to me since the season ended has nothing to do with football.

        For a guy who I’ve seen complain about too much drama on the blog, you have done nothing on your end to keep the discussion to football with me. Can you remember the last time you talked football to me and not in some condescending way where you say “no way DS. You are wrong, I am right”? Because I can’t recall a single conversation between us where you didn’ try to call me out or some other thing since before last season ended.

        If you think I am a drama queen and soap opera person, what have you done this whole offseason to get me off that route? You have only added to it.

        PS When I’m on the blog when there is a lot of drama going on, and I want it to stop, I throw out a ton of questions/ideas to get others/those involved in it to stop for a bit and get back to football. Do you do that, or do you just complain?

      • rocket says:

        You’re right DS I have picked on you this offseason and the reason is you consistently go on these diatribes telling people how they started something, how they are misunderstanding a situation you are commenting on, or you making truces or deals to avoid comments if others avoid yours etc, etc, etc.

        I find the whole thing both comical and sad. It’s ridiculous that you get into all these cyber fights with so many different people and believe others are hating or treating you disrespectfully when the one common denominator in every argument …is you.

        If you could just focus on football I wouldn’t rag on you, but you don’t. 90% of your time here is spent arguing with numerous people about how they have cursed, called you names, disrespected you, and whatever other flavor is on the menu that day. It’s a blog about football DS. Who gives a crap if people are talking smack to you. You have the thinnest skin I have ever encountered and believe me I’ve seen some pretty sensitive people.

        I called you a hypocrite. You refer to that as namecalling when it is a term for what you were doing. This is an example of what I just pointed out above. If you want to talk football, talk football. The problem is, most of the time you don’t. You talk about people trying to look cool, or ask someone to leave you alone. That is why I refer to you as a drama queen. You seem to enjoy attention and not for football talk. No worries DS I will leave you alone.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Good to know rocket.

        Though some here have actually written I am here to talk football. I was in the middle with a converstion with Grant just now.

        And the only non-football (except a few fun posts which I dont think count) posts I had today were early with the issue between one and md, and you. Add up all the other posts and do some quick divison, and you’ll find it is a lot more like 90% of my posts are about football.

        But, you have your opinion. I have mine. Good day/evening as the case may be to you sir.

  21. brotha Tuna says:

    Something in the coffee this morning folks? Whew……. The humidity? Dry Lightning? Sand in the underwear?
    We’ve got a longer sidebar now, but not many comments inviting to click on. : > /

  22. Nick Row says:

    As the tone setter game approaches, I’ll watching for improvements from Alex Smith. His favorite receiver – the ground – has to have a disappointing year :)

  23. Crab15 says:

    Nick, Xgolfer – Score prediction for Sunday?

  24. Dat guy named oneniner says:

    ….Wow….Grant will defend ninermd rather than protect the blog……

    …let me guess its oneniner’s fault……

  25. Crab15 says:

    Does anyone know what happened with md? I missed it

    • DS94everXev says:

      @Crab15

      It is likely this post will be deleted, but here it goes:

      oneniner found some evidence that md was banned from another forum. You know how md has been saying oneniner has been banned from various forms for years now? Well, this was just a little pay-back for all those times md said it.

      Then it got into the fun stuff pretty quick. I don’t know what finally forced it to be deleted, but I do find it curious (and unfair) that all of oneniners posts as well as mine were delted but md’s remain where he bashed oneniner just as much as oneniner bashed him. The whole discussion from all participants should have been deleted.

  26. SoCal49er4Life says:

    So much drama on here it feels like im in high school.

  27. ninermd says:

    Ha ha haaaa. Onelame has got some of you suckered. Simple! The caps in the name don’t even match. Roll with it ds. But I won’t forget what you said about Crabtree. Even though you made numerous attempts to “move on” lol

    Again nice try onelame. I think I’ll go make an account now on that website. Thanks for the info.

    • ribico says:

      Lets see, at various times the board has called JH a liar, AS hopefully a hit away away from career ending injury, accused one another of being racists and (completely off topic) GWB a “dictator” and Obama a “communist”).

      Two questions:

      What exactly was this ultimate insult to Crabtree what will burn in your memory forever?

      and

      Why is Crabtree, among all others, to be so fiercely defended?

      • ninermd says:

        Really AS hopefully a hit away? Get real ribico. Your the third best joke on this blog. And I never Called JH a liar. And I called Obama you know the guy who bailed out the banks and left my fellow brotheren in the middle east after promising he’d fix those things a socialist. You are as informed as a comment by a guy who doesn’t watch the games. Eh emm onelame??? Beat it son.

      • ribico says:

        md, please learn to read. I never said *you* said those things, rather the *board* did. see the difference there? not everything is about you.

        *This* is about you, however. You seem to have a particular place in your heart for defending MC from whatever it was the DS said about him. Just wondering what that particular insult of insults was and why Crabtree, why you singled him out for defense with all the other infantile crap spewed about people and other players here.

      • ninermd says:

        It’s called hypocrisy ribico. You can’t have an opinion on smiths poor play in the past or some of his faults he still has without idiots like ds and onelame and others like yourself going nuts calling fans “haters” so if you are a hater because you’re not a big fan of ANY player. Then the same goes for the hypocrites calling others a hater. See it sucks when you invest all of your time and energy and love for one player.

        And the Obama thing? You know that was me.
        And calling ds a racist because it doesn’t listen to tc stories about JJ or ST And hasn’t seen them play a second yet. BUT sides with ST and puts down another 49er qb that could have helped this team before we knew how he played? Yeah I’ll call it like I see it.
        So understand who and what you’re writing about next time. Hope we sowed this up now. It’s 2 1/2 days away from kickoff and I have no plans on arguing with you guys until the season is over or we disagree about a certain play or player. Have a great weekend and GO 9ERS! Wheeeeeew!

      • claude balls says:

        @ninermd:

        Did you get the shirt/sign made yet?

      • ribico says:

        Maybe you didn’t see that perhaps DS was more influenced by ST’s performance last TC and JJ’s career and recent regular season showings. Instead it has to be about the color of either’s skin? OK, got it. Give you credit for that, you do see things in your way, alright.

        >>I have no plans on arguing with you guys until the season is over or we disagree about a certain play or player.

        Heh. That will take all of the first offensive snap.

        Anyways… go Niners! Total agreement there.

      • ninermd says:

        Claude no not yet. I’m going to roll on down to my local Walgreens and see what they can do. I’ll keep you posted. Got a very busy weekend. Gotta hang up tons of niner stuff for the kickoff party Sunday and some yard work and a birthday and shopping and……. You get the drift. Lol

      • ninermd says:

        And ribico…. I’m betting ds never seen JJ play and besides ds loves to say if harbaugh is alright with a player than that’s all it goes by. Well we all know that JH and JJ has ties and that JH brought him here personally. Any thoughts on that rib?
        Anyways I gotta disagree with the “all but first snap” comment. Although I think you just like to ruffle feathers with the smith defense. I still see you as a 49er fan. Not just a smith family member or fan club leader. But I am getting a sense that you might be a ds fan club member. With the all out Shapiro /Cochran defense of ds. I’m sure it’s smiling in its space ship somewhere in orbit. Go Niners bra….. Wheeew

      • claude balls says:

        @ninermd:

        Thanks for the report. Enjoy the game.

      • ribico says:

        >>Well we all know that JH and JJ has ties and that JH brought him here personally. Any thoughts on that rib?

        My thought? Niner roster cuts is how that played out.

        >>I still see you as a 49er fan. Not just a smith family member or fan club leader.

        Garsh, thanks. There must have been a reason, living on the east coast for the last 30 years, that I paid a small fortune in scalpers and travel expenses to see Niners play in person during that time. It must have been I was anticipating the day the Niners would draft Smith, even before he was born. Of course, that’s it! (smacks head)

  28. Hoferfan67 says:

    Does anyone know why the 9er message board is no longer open to the public?

  29. AES* says:

    Ex:
    “Having said that, I stand by my opinion that EM was lucky to win the first SB [see: Tyree's catch] and lucky to even be in the most recent SB, in the first place [see: two fumbled punts, two dropped INT's and one brutal non-fumble call]. Not saying his skill didn’t play a part, just that luck did as well.”

    @ex
    On the surface no one could deny the great catch by Tyree. But you failed to mention EM’ ability to escape a fierce pass rush that was practically on him before making the throw.
    It was a great play on both ends, QB and WR.
    Eli just finds a way to get it done. The great one’s do.

  30. Ed says:

    I figured I’d start Alex Smith in FF over Eli, and it turns out I may hae been right in doing so.

  31. AES* says:

    DS94everXev says:
    September 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm
    AES
    “Why do you continue to put yourself into fights that don’t involve you and then continue this BS that oneniner or person x has no credibility Because I remember you telling me you don’t believe in credibility.”

    @DS
    Was the pot that called the kettle black or other way around? (lol).
    C’mon DS, really? Do you really think that you are in position to ask this question? ( Hahaha!).

    Move on, bud.

    • DS94everXev says:

      Ummmm….
      I don’t talk a lot about cred AES. Show me a post where I do and imply that I have it and person x does not.