SANTA CLARA – This afternoon at Jim Harbaugh’s Monday press conference, I asked him two questions about Alex Smith. Here they are, followed by Harbaugh’s responses.
ME: How has Alex Smith matured and progressed when it comes to choosing between two plays at the line of scrimmage?
HARBAUGH: He’s an expert in this system. To accomplish that in just a year speaks volumes. How has he matured? He’s matured intellectually. He’s got a lot to work with because he’s a really intelligent guy. The way he works at it – he’ll be up in the building until 7, 8, 9 o’clock at night, constantly grinding on the mental part of the game.
ME: Can you put more on him now than you could at the beginning of last season?
HARBAUGH: I think we can with everybody on our squad. It’s not just Alex who didn’t have the same coordinator in successive years, or seven or eight different guys. I think you could say that for everybody. There’s more that we can keep doing, and hopefully keep growing.
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ninermd says:
September 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifE6XkqMX9g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
WOW!!! Is this Herm Edwards little brother? I have a feeling some on here believe like this guy does, that the coaches really do watch their videos and believe they truly had something to do with the outcome of the game. This is THE total armchair qb. Frickin hilarious
WOW!! After watching that I feel sorry for that guys wife/kids(if he has any).. Lil bit of anger control issues maybe?!
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Lol I know right?
Awesome. I nominate that rant for the next Coors Light Commercial.
Too much to bleep out lol
Hee larry us!
Man….
That guy needs to seek Proffessional Help. And talk about “Look At Me Syndrome”!
@Ninermd Thank you sooooo much for the few minutes of pure joy that brought to my heart hahahaha
I love that second answer. Great question Grant. Some tend to forget that it wasn’t just Alex who had different coaches and coordinator’. Now guys like davis, MC, smith and gore can flourish with the same coaching staff also.
Hey grant did you get another look from the booth again?
MD
I won my bet and your well on your way to winning yours.
Nice I was thinking about you and the bet yesterday. I just got done watching the game on tv now. And in person you can hear how hard our defense hits and it translates beautifully on tv also. Wheeew our boys lay the wood down.
Good point MD.
md,
That second answer was the best. The ENTIRE team is reaping the benefits of having the same good coordinators for a second season. What a difference it makes when you have more than 1 good WR. It’s All Right Now!
And not just for same years in a row but people who know what they are doing.
Surprise, surprise MD.. I do believe that the annual change in OCs adversely affecting the whole offense was considered an Alexcuse by haters and ex-haters prior to and even during last season Now it’s a valid statement. LOL
For his accuracy and pocket awareness… Yes it was and still is. Anything else? Or would you like to move on and enjoy this season our TEAM is giving us?
MD .. been enjoying it since the beginning of last year, just pointing out a little irony. LOL Glad to see you’re finally starting to have fun since you gave up your “I hate Alex” mantra. The Niners are back and it adds a whole new energy to Sundays again!!!
The Phoenix rises….
Thanks for the piece Grant. It’s a great feeling here with the Niners Faithful.
I tried to post the new Patrick Willis Duracell commercial but my post was immediately deleted (Thanks PD). Look it up on Youtube: “Trust your power – Patrick Willis”. Its incredible.
@ Mike:
It’s already linked to in the comments to the Game Grades post, but here it is again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdRrP1Kh9TU
Wow! Waht a great ad!
Thanks – love it!
Nice they play the Duracell sound at the stick after a Willis tackle. It’s great.
Gave me the chills!! What a great example of how great it is to live in the greatest country at the greatest time.. No matter what you are born into.. You can OVERCOME!! #52′smyidol
Posted my prediction a few days ago on here that it’d be 27-20 Niners victory… My 1st prediction on here.. Off by a point dang it!! Of course I had ZERO to do with the outcome but I’d like to think the karmic universe was listening… In the end all that really matters is W tho.. GO NINERS!! : )
Well….shoot man
Give the Super Bowl prediction. But only if we win.
@DS AS and the gang are gonna be liftin that sixth Lombardi I have NO doubt!! Dynasty numero dos here we come : )
Just gotta make sure Mr. Creepy Hoody Guy isn’t there to try and hog the spotlight… Dude looked like crackhead LOL !!!
@Rand
I’ve been humming “Empire Strikes Back” theme since the hiring of JH, and never wavered in my belief of “In JH I trust” or in AS’s abilities. Despite years of futile play. The guy never gave up on us. I’ll return the favor in kind. It’s karma man.
@ RandR-
You are SOOOOOO right about Mr. Creepy Hoodie Guy! This is not someone you let hang around your neighborhood, ya know? I’m no redneck, just sayin’.
@DS when JH was hired I woulda done a backflip if I could “actually” do it… I’ll settle for high fives and “I told you so’s” to all who doubted.. I’m a big believer in a gut feeling and the moment we got JH I knew we FINALLY had our leader of the troops.. The talents been there for a long minute.. Just needed the right leadership at the top.. Feels pretty darn good from here
: )
@tuna yeah don’t let your kids buy ice cream from that ice cream truck if he’s behind the wheel that’s for sure lol when I was watching the interview with AS and the gang all I could keep sayin to my friends I was watching it with was how creepy that guy looked!!
Pretty well nailed it man.
Yep “The Force of Jim Harbaugh”, Question though, Is he a Jedi or is he part of the dark side! His father could be Yoda or the Emperor!
rebel
If Natalie Portman is involved, I can care less which side of the force. She’s worth it.
I’ll take Modern Family’s Sofia Vergara over most.
I’d bust a move if I was single and a pro athlete.
Hell , I’d take a shot if I was single.
You kidding Rebel? He’s both! He’s a Sidi.
DS, as for Portman, meh.
Natalie has beauty and brains. And self-respect without a screwed up life. A rare thing in Hollywood. Makes her weird.
Keeps the competition down. Increasing my odds baby!
Sorry, but I don’t go for women in the entertainment industry, except maybe Rihanna. Give me a strong country gal in blue jeans any day of the week.
midwest
Well, what if they went for you?
Aw c’mon DS, none of us here have to worry too much about that! It’s like that stupid Hooters ad:
> I think she digs you.
~ Really?!?
> No.
I’d let them, plain and simple. No problem whatsoever in that department. But nothing is nicer to these eyes like a strong gal in jeans.
Very true Tuna.
brotha
1. It’s a blog. Imagination runs wild.
2. Rebel and I brought up Star Wars. That is full of imagination.
If I can’t let my imagination run wild on this….. how boring.
Anyway. Hooter chicks are braindead. Full of more silicon than your computer. I want natural beauty.
:- )
Inner beauty is better DS.
midwest
Look up Natalie Portman on the net. You’ll find plenty of things to satisfy any inner beauty reqs you have.
And strong…Ballerinas are strong. As an actress, Natalie played one and trained like one. Just like Mickey Rourke when he acted in “The Wrestler”. Toughest physical prep any of them have done.
Thanks DS, but I think that I’ll stick with the homegrown country beauty around where I live. No that I won’t look elsewhere mind you. :-)
@Midwest
You ain’t wrong, but California Girls ROCK!!! I ain’t lying! I married one!
There’s a song out their titled Women Rule the World. To sum up the song, we men are putty in the hands of a woman.
@Midwest
I think most women think that men are like big dogs on two legs who can talk. Sometimes loveable, but dirty, messy and kinda revolting. But who ya gonna call to kill that spider?
Believe it or not, I know some ladies that would kill that spider while the guy is up on the coffee table screaming like a little girl. Sad but true.
Mr. Crabs has meaty claws.
Do you think we see LMJ’s debut this week inside a dome?
Nope.
Patrick Willis was also a beast last night. He showed he is still the best defensive player we have. So glad we have this guy
Did you know? Former Niner QB Bill Musgrave is Vikings offensive coordinator. He played 3 years for Niners and had a 80% completion rate!……….4-5 Lol
Yes
I see ST as a better version of Musgrave. Just as smart, but I think a better QB.
Blast from past, cool link Nick. That wasn’t the infamous Ditka throwing his gum at a fan leading into the locker room game was it? We missed the playoffs that year? Ugh.
Nope, that game was in ’87.
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/16/sports/sports-of-the-times-ice-gum-and-hamstrings.html
I remember Musgrave well, especially one particular pass at the end of a 49ers-Bears game.
Way ahead, Seifert called a running play to burn clock. Bill Musgrave (playing in his first NFL game) audibled, throwing a 15-yard TD pass to Mike Sherrard, running up the score 52-14. I was laughing my head off, but Musgrave infuriated both Ditka and Seifert.
The QB for the Bears? Jim Harbaugh.
B2W – Thanks for sharing that, good stuff.
Great memory Brodie2WA
to the article regarding that game and a quote from JH therein:
As for the Bears’ momentum heading into the playoffs quarterback Jim Harbaugh said, ”I’d say it came to a screeching halt.”
Oops,
Here’s a link to an article about that game …
http://home.earthlink.net/~seifertsite/1991games/bears91.html
The offense scores the points and the defense keeps them in the game. A nice place to be
AS gave up too many yards on the Suh sack. Like a RB running back. A player needs to have it in them to not run any furtherback than x yards. Don’t try to run back. Dive forward/slide/whatever. A loss of 11 yards on a sack is too much.
Its going to be a TO fest this week in minn. I see at least 3 ponder int’s. I just hope if we get up by 2 scores or more this week we put them away.
The new foghorn thing at the stick I am not a fan of. It was fine for the parking lot parties but for every touchdown I think it’s gimmicky and cheesy. It belongs in hockey not Football
Yeah, what are they going to use in the new stadium in the middle of Silicon Valley? An iPhone ringtone?
ribico
The sound of a pink slip being given from employer to employee while the company is loaded on cash they are sitting on is the sound I’d bet they’ll use in the new stadium.
YAHOO-OOOO
Am I the only one who likes the foghorn?
I liked it too Crab. The Giants have only been out for 10+ years, what took so long to start using it?
Hammer – Giants magic number down to 9!
Crab, next Sunday, 49ers win in the morning and Giants clinch in the afternoon?
Crab,
I also love the fog horn. I was surprised when it didn’t make the trip form the ‘Stick to the Phone Booth.
Niners 7 point favorites over Vikes.
34- 13 NINERS!! It’s gonna be known as “The Massacre in Minnesota”… #marchtonumber6
The league is noticing that the replacement referees aren’t calling down field contact. I expect lots of rubs and lots of pick plays in Minnesota.
If this team can stop Peterson, I think this one will be over in the 1st quarter. I fully expect that number (7) to go up by the end of the week to 10.5 or 11 depending on bets.
Chris, I’d hope that since everyone has noticed, the replacement refs would be given some trainings/meetings this week to emphasize what needs to be called.
Crab,
If I bet football, I would jump on that line with both feet. I’ve got to believe that line will be bet up.
Agree, it will go up.
The metrodome gets pretty loud, hopefully we score first and silence those purple people.
So far, my predictions from five months ago are pretty close. I called for a blow-out this week. Can’t wait to see! The only problem I see so far with my early predictions are the Niners apparently are going to score more points than I expected, and the games are apparently not going to be as close as I expected.
There’s no team in the league that can look at the Niners on their schedule and predict a win.
Here’s my April predictions:
This is the time for optimism!
Barring major injury to several players, scandal or handshake disasters, here’s how I see it play out.
Week 1: at Green Bay. The Niners defense is one we’ll talk about for decades. Legendary. They will turn it on again and start right off with that magic against Green Bay. Aaron will scramble and run for yards when he can’t throw and gets flushed from the pocket, but he can’t win the game himself. 27-17 Niners.
Week 2: vs. Detroit. Win. Tough, physical game. Victory with a last-second field goal. Handshake is very respectful. 23-20 Niners.
Week 3: at Minnesota. Vikings still aren’t themselves. Niners win 27-7.
Week 4: at New York Jets. Niners win in overtime. They’re on a roll, now! 23-20.
Week 5: vs. Buffalo. Conservative play-calling gets another win. 16-3 Niners!
Week 6: vs. New York Giants. Damn. All that water-cooler talk about a perfect season dashed to bits. What is it about those Giants? They come into Candlestick and surprise us. Team has a bit of a let-down this week. Giants win. 27-17.
Week 7: vs. Seattle, Thursday. Rebound with a tough game. An injury plagues the team. Niners still win 26-20.
Week 8: at Arizona. Niners light it up for Monday night. Plenty of rest. Plenty of time to game-plan. Defense contributes to the scoring. Niners 34-13.
Week 9: Bye. It will come in handy. Injuries have mounted, but the key players come back healthy after the bye week.
Week 10: vs. St. Louis. Best offensive showing of the year, Harbaugh crafts a great game. Niners win 44-14.
Week 11: vs. Chicago. Close game. Niners get a reputation for styling their game different each week. Niners do what it takes, win 21-20.
Week 12: at New Orleans. The Niners put the Saints into a tailspin with this game. Niners win 30-24.
Week 13: at St. Louis. Sorry, St. Louis. Niners win 28-10.
Week 14: vs. Miami. Rainy-day game. Niners win one in the mud, gaining most of their yards on the ground, plus one long and unexpected pass play. Niners 19-0.
Week 15: at New England. Great game. This one gets everyone talking about Niners going to the Superbowl! Niners win 27-14.
Week 16: at Seattle. Niners have clinched the division. Rest most of their playmakers. Start focusing on the playoffs. Lose 24-17.
Week 17: vs. Arizona. Defensive backups put an exclamation point on the year. Niners win, 24-3.
Sure, call me crazy at 14-2. But I also made a crazy bet last year that the Niners would play in the Championship game. Who would have guessed the team was a missed play away from going to the Super Bowl? I’m convinced they would have won it, too. Damn. That still smarts a little.
Can’t wait for this year!
Your post deserves a reply. Excellent. For once, a guy writes without reservation and puts it out there.
But you’re wrong about the Giants
15-1
And one more bold one to add…
Alex Smith: INT < 5
The only threat to 0 INTs are passes to Delanie (but keep throwing to him, cuz the diff btw 0 INTs & 5 INTs is negligible).
Good stuff, toby! But I predict less trouble with those Near York teams than you do.
Johnny and ribico,
After watching these two first games, I think the Niners may very well beat the Giants.
But then again, who are they going to lose to?
Don’t want to jinx the team. But what a change from the days when we asked, who can the Niners beat? Now the question is, can anyone beat he Niners?
Off Topic Here, but I have no problem with how TB ended the NY game. When I see my team losing by one possession, I wish more coaches would try that. However, I’m not a coach in the NFL, so I am not familiar with unwritten rules. I thought,” that guy is doing what I always wished they’d do on kneel downs.” I don’t understand the upheaval over the play. The game is 60 minutes. TB played it to the end. Will someone explain that one to me?
@chris Agreed!! If there’s time on the clock and your team has ANY chance of winning you play to the end!! Each game is extremely important and can be the difference between hoisting the Lombardi or sitting at home and wandering “what if?”.. Example the giants last year.. Snuck in by a hair and ended up goin on a roll(not that I’m happy about it but it’s true lol) cuz Any Given Sunday will always hold true in football.. Soooo… Coughlin needs to quit snivelin and be glad Eli held on cuz “if” a miracle had happened like a fumble returned for a TD and they did lose(I.e. Miracle in the meadowlands) then all the pundits would be talking about how the Giants erred by not playing to the horn and how TB was genius in there strategy.. Just sayin
The “miracle” happened because the offense ran a play! The OL in the huddle were yelling at the QB to just kneel down and not run the play sent in by the Coach. That’s why the kneel down became a common practice.
@tuna what I mean is that anything can happen in the game till the whistle blows or you have absolutely ZERO chance of winning.. But yeah prob a bad reference on my part considering the subject lol
@ Chris-
I disagree, so I’ll try. 1st off, it wasn’t illegal. Unethical? That seems to be subjective.
Veterans tell younger guys over-acting in the Endzone, “Act like you’ve been there before and like you’ll be back again.” My point: You play the game to win, but when its over you don’t risk injury to players without meaningful gain, and you realize you’ll have to do better on your next opportunity. You’ll be back because you’re a professional.
The other ‘side’ of this is when, for instance, a coach with a big lead doesn’t insist on a hurry-up offense to punch it in at the end of a game, and allows the clock to run down.
I’m not doing that great a job explaining it; to me its just there to see. How does one conduct oneself? Its unnecessary, it won’t help win that game, and it just might come back on you down the road.
Schwartz was channeling that “I’m a mad dog, don’t mess with me!” ‘tude last couple of years…………pffffffft.
Up by nine or more I’d completely agree with you but if it’s a one possession game… Ya never know.. Crazier things have happened in sports.. Its the Giants decision to call a kneel down and it’s TB’s decision to accept that outcome or play to win “if” there’s any chance of winning.. Seems like it’s a subjective issue with the pundits on TV.. When former players turned NFL anaylsts give there opinion it seems to be divided by offensive and defensive players as to what they find acceptable.. Of course Eli would say it was unnecessary.. He was the one falling backwards and almost didn’t secure the snap.. He almost proved Schiano right cuz even if he turned it over and TB didn’t win… They still had a better chance than accepting a kneel down from the Giants..
Thank you Gentlemen.
@Chris & RandR-
I see the point you make. Let’s just say I don’t have an issue if as the Offense sets up the D says “We’re coming live boys”. That at least acknowledges the custom but gives fair warning. It’s subjective.
@ Brotha
Check my post. I appreciate your comments. Maybe you agree with what I said this time…
@Chris
It’s about instilling in your guys a certain attitude. As much as we might want to respect the tradition, as fans of the Harbaugh Niners, we understand that winning sideline/lockerroom culture can be born from the smallest indignities, for or against.
I like what Schiano did, not as a reflection of NFL values, but certainly as a reflection of building a winner, a winner with a chip. Don’t forget: the Bucs were an upncomer before last year. They have talent. It’s only a matter of time… Schiano is a class-act. Like Harbaugh is a class-act (Lowell might disagree).
@Johnny
I’ll get back to you. The steak just came off the grill!
$2 steak?? LOL
@ Johnny Cristo
I do understand that, especially because the Bucs last year were a team that got discouraged and a few times quit before the game was over. So Schiano inherited a team with issues he’s trying to address, and yes, that makes sense to us Harbaugh fans.
However (u KNEW I had to go there! ), TJax on ESPN pointed out that in week #1, with almost 2 minutes left to play, Schiano had his QB take a knee on 3 consecutive plays, fully expecting the League courtesy of nobody clocking his QB. I saw the tape, his OL was all relaxed, no problems. Then his boys go all Al-Queda on Eli and he says he plays to the final gun, except the week before.
So, I’ll stand on my proviso, it’s OK if the D Captain hollers a fair warning to the offense.
I MUST say, this has been a delightful discussion; no spitballs! : >)
PS NY steak, onion & mushroom & summer squash sauté, baked potato w/ Pt Reyes Blue Cheese, and Robert Sinskey Merlot. zwat I’m talkin’bout.
@ Hofe
I freaking wish it was $2!
I like Sinskey. My cousins live in Napa and know this winery very very well.
Nothing like Pt Reyes Blue…
(especially if you’re lucky enough to be spending the weekend on Tomales Bay, Marshall side…)…
:)
@ Johnny
Obviously a man of good taste. The Inverness side is just fine too! Shell Beach, Heart’s Desire Beach, + a couple of secrets. Giving it up now. Night to y’all. Sunrise start mañana.
You know who isn’t an intelligent guy, and the 49ers success in the past 2 years proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt. Mike Singletary. Simpletary. Dingleberry.
I know people will ask me why do I need to bring that up right now when we’re all deliriously happy with our 49ers. It’s just kind of funny now that we can look back and laugh, because we FINALLY have a great coach after so many morons, topped by a guy who wasn’t even SANE in Singletary. This team was loaded with talent and he was the worst NFL coach of all time, bar none.
He wanted “winners”..!! He had “winners..!! He just didn’t know what to do with them to win.. LOL
Just MHO here, but I think Singletary lacked the personal confidence in himself as a coach. He didn’t let his other coaches actually coach. Raye was the coffin in the 49ers. Singletary set the tone that Harbaugh understood how to implement. Singletary knew how to play under that Harbaugh philosophy, he just didn’t know how to create it. That’s just my opinion though.
I think he had too much confidence in his coaching ability. It was all about him and his ridiculous mindset. The big red flag came when B and C list coordinators started turning the offensive coordinator job down.
@ Alan Marks
I love that you bring up Dingleberry at this particular juncture, because with Harbaugh at 16-4 with the same players Dingleberry had, it’s worth discussing.
The worst thing about Dingleberry was his foolish pride. It led him to diminish his own players and pump up his deficient coaching staff. He promised to forego his severance if he went less than 9-7 after his 8-8 season. He lied. He didn’t forego that $2M payout. I wouldn’t either.
Dingleberry, though I have never and will never like him as a player or a head coach, was an integral part of this Niners team’s success. What he did to instill an awareness of accountability with certain players (VD/PW) lives on under Harbaugh.
Favor Dingleberry? No way! Dislike the clown with alacrity. But know greatness when I see it, and despite all he did to defeat himself, he couldn’t help but rub off on some of the great ones.
Mercury news/Dan Brown says Niners are diva-free.
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_21564320/jim-harbaughs-san-francisco-49ers-are-diva-free
Nice link Crab.
J23 claims to see body languange that might prove otherwise. Who to believe? I think I’ll take Harbaugh. Just this time though.
Grant, good questions and nice read. BTW, I’m still upset with you regarding last nights exchange during the game. jk lol
Hey Grant, question for you:
I noticed that Tolzien was suited up last night. Was that merely a function of injuries elsewhere? Just figured they’d dress him out?
Or… were they seriously considering that whole Detroit “chippy” thing Harbaugh was talking about before the game and maybe worried about injuries? If that forearm Smith took to the head was any lower… who knows?
Ooops, should say *a result of injuries elsewhere.*
adam tolzien was suited because andy lee was having problems with his thumb and tolzien is the back up to lee when holding for fg’s
Ah OK. Nice.
Andys’ thumb is broke bro….
Razor
No it isn’t. It’s hurt. Where have you heard it was broken from?
Razor I’d heard the same thing during the televised game. However, I can’t find any reports confirming it was actually broken. I can say a broken thumb is rarely put in a cast, but rather in a splint to allow swelling to go down and the 2 bones to be set. So, if it is broken, the splint makes sense. (i.e. Sunday he had a splint on)
Harbaugh has given strict orders not to discuss injuries and it appears to be standing orders even for a punter.
Al Michaels made a reference to it early in the game. Since all injuries are classified HARBAUGH/BLACK (If you even ask, we kill you with our evol stare), we can only speculate.
sequence or drive of game was first half,
WILLIS HIT ON MEGATRON….detroit offense shivered in fear
megatron drops next 3rd down pass, huge….
affected the entire aura
Thanks for pointing that out. I thought that hit was going to affect crossing routes later, but then I got caught up in the game and forgot to check for the effects. Nice mention. Certainly was a team effort.
3rdKing – Good post! Welcome to the blog.
Crab, we’re going to change your name to Ambassador Crab. Sounds good! The Ambassador. LOL
Hofe – Hospitality my friend.
~TA
It was an impact hit that the megatron is feeling today.
KNBR said Niners by the end of the season may be the most complete offensive team. They have the most dynamic running game in the NFL flat out. And MC is better. VD/DW have to be a worry for defenses. Plus Moss and Manningham. And we still have a lot more WR’s who can do damage and RB’s who can punish tacklers (Jacobs) who will be our short yardage back.
Although it’s nice to have a smart QB I don’t care all that much that Alex is a smart guy,all I care about is if he can make plays !
Last week he had his best game ever in the NFL,no question ! This week he improved on that and played a great game !
I am very happy as a fan that I can finally praise my QB,because he has finally earned it by his play on the field ! It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy than alex and I hope he keeps improving and playing better and better !
Great job alex,keep it up !
Are the oceans turning red and the sun rotate around the earth? Wow Tim! Is that really you?
It’s me DS ! I said I would try to put the past behind me and only judge Alex on what he actually does on the field of play,in regular season games in 2012. It is rather hard to be unbiased,after so many years of failure and ineptitude from alex,but I believed I was always telling the truth when I said he sucked and now that he is playing really good football I also must tell it like it is ! I am very happy for alex but most of all I am happy for me,that I finally have a QB running MY team who seems capable of making plays !
He still has a long way to go and needs to improve several areas of his game,that is for sure. But right now I have hope that he will do just that,improve and continue to improve !
And as I always say,the future looks very bright…with Kaepernick also learning from Jim Harbaugh and pushing Alex in the future it looks VERY bright indeed ! (not to mention the great defense and ST’s and coaching and ownership and front office !!! ).
I’m agreeing more or less with Tim. This must be a magical year folks.
PS Tim- I’ve been cool with you. You didn’t step out of line like most who share similar AS views have. Don’t forget the blog now. A blog (this one especially) needs respectful opposing views. Not a lot of them around.
While I am encouraged by the fact you are finally coming around on Smith Tim, it’s apparent by what you say that you still don’t get it when it comes to giving an accurate portrayal of this guy.
To say he sucked is an empty mindless statement devoid of research and understanding of the game. You continue to have a narrow minded view of his career.
It’s not a popular excercise around here, but try looking at his guys career as a whole now, instead of just focusing on what you believed to be poor play for 6 years followed by a magical transformation under Jim Harbaugh.
Alex Smith was a first overall pick. That means teams thought he had elite franchise ability. He obviously hasn’t achieved that lofty standard but there are reasons why just as there is an explanation for why he is succeeding now. The fact is Tim, you were wrong about this guy because you were unwilling to accept the realities of life in the NFL. Alex Smith has had every obstacle imaginable put in his way keeping him from success from losing OC’s every year and starting over from scratch, to having mediocre to below talent around him, to having two shoulder surgeries, to having his manhood questioned by two HC’s. How in the world yoo could expect anyone to succeed under these circumstances is beyond me.
See Tim the truth is Alex Smith is the same guy who entered the league as a #1 overall pick. He was talented then and he’s talented now. The difference is, instead of doing everything they can to derail his career, the organization has now given him what he needs to succeed.
Jim Harbaugh has not transformed Alex Smith into a better QB. He’s simply given him something Smith has never had: belief in his talent and ability. He puts Smith in position to succeed by letting him be himself and not asking him to wing it on a prayer and just make a play as he was asked to do before. It’s called Coaching and Alex Smith is getting good Coaching for the first time since his second season in the league.
So while it’s good that you are finally coming around on this guy Tim, I still get the feeling you don’t get it and judging by your views of past QB’s on this team, you may never will.
rocket
What else do you want? Like the song said “Let it be, let it be “man. If somebody had a horrible opinion of you before,then comes to like you, do you bitch about how they USED to hate you?
Move on man. Don’t instigate anything. He’s cool with moving on, and you want to push it back in his face?
Whatever.
Well said rocket! My contention about the whole Alex thing is not that we said he would be great, but that he never had a chance to even be good since being drafted. From 2005-2010, I am surpised he even stayed in the game!
The doubters have never been able to understand what it takes for an NFL QB to be successful.
Now that those things are in place, we are seeing a completely different player. There is a blue print, the 49ers decided not to follow it for 8 years. Harbaugh comes in, strips him down, builds him back up using the right blue print and the results speak for themselves.
@ rocket:
Another well-reasoned, well-written comment.
And don’t listen to DS. You aren’t instigating anything.
claude
If Tim comes back and says something, or another person, then rocket did. If rocket comes on here and says “Yeah!” I can assure you with 100% accuracy nobody could interpret anything negative from that. By going “yeah, but…” rocket is leaving the door open for a return volley.
You and rocket need to cut the cord that you two have over Tim. Start over. I know you guys don’t like Tim at all. So, please I ask of you, just as you asked of me and AES. Start over.
Your not dealing with football fans, your speaking to fantasy football fans where numbers and instant production is their need. They don’t understand the NFL game and what it all entails.
Bay said the other day, “just once go deep to Moss” this just exemplifies his lack of knowledge of who and what the Niners are all about. We are not a vertical team. This team is built to run the ball, control the time of possession, take chances downfield when the matchup presents itself, and play to the strengths of the defense.
Like FDM said, Alex never had a chance to be great. He was in the worst possible situation a #1 draft pick could be in for 8 years. Now he is in the best situation and he is playing great.
They will never understand this guys because they look at the game as a fantasy football owner would insted of a fan who sees it from a process of building a winner and then contending for a championship. It does not happen overnight, especially what the process was what Alex and the entire offensive draft picks endured since 2005.
DS,
If someone has had a major problem with you, and then one day, out of the blue, they do a 180 and want to be your friend, you don’t want an explanation?
ex
If you are getting what you want, don’t ask for more. You may end up with nothing.
And that person may tell you in time. I know from experience. Where people hated me, then 1 day liked me. We became friends prett quickly.
If that is a good outcome, why threaten it? Maybe you have/will. Not me. Keep in mind Tim not liking AS (yes Tim as a player. I know you like the person. No need to state it again) as I have, is a very minor thing. The stuff I’m talking about…was more important stuff than a QB on a football blog.
People write I take this seriously. Well from my view they are here. Don’t argue when you get what you want.
@DS:
1. rocket didn’t start anything. He merely responded to typical TIM b/s. The back-handedness in TIM’s comment wasn’t innocent. He knew what he was writing.
2. You are the last commenter who should lecture anyone about moving on from a topic/disagreement.
3. I haven’t directed a comment at TIM in weeks, if not months. How exactly does that compare to you and AES?
Rocket,
Well said.
Apparently, the puveyors of the “I told you Smith sucked for six [or sometimes, seven] years and now he’s good [maybe with a "so far" added], get over it” line of superficial thinking, just don’t, or won’t get it.
It starts when they give the length of time Smith has sucked. The Cultists include his first year [20 years old on a team with expanaion level talent], his second year [he showed growth while learning his second offense], and his third and fourth years [washed out by injuries] in the length of time they feels Smith sucked.
If they were being honest with themselves, they would admit Smith’s performance in his first two years wasn’t a surprise, or disappointment. The whole team sucked [especially his first year, god that was a bad team] and Smith still improved in his second year.
And to include years three and four in the “Years That Smith Sucked” talley is simply disingenuous, how can you say somebody sucked at something, when they weren’t even able to do the thing you’re claiming they sucked at?
The fifth and sixth years [the organization was in chaos replete with the worst coaching in the NFL] of Smith’s career is teh Cultists only chance for traction. Until you look at the prevailing conditions. Then their fakakta [italian for "half baked"] theory starts to fall apart like a three dollar suitcase.
Year seven, Smith gets some good and consistent coaching, and even without a regular off season [I'm not sure if we fully appreciate how remarkable last year was, in light of that - the whole team, I'm not talking about Simth here] he takes a big step forward. It’s still not enough for the Cultists, but they started to fray around the edges after the playoff win over NO. Although, after the loss in the NFCCG, the win over NO turned out to be not as impressive and the loss to the NYG was an abject failure in the Cultists eyes.
Year eight, it looks like Smith is continuing his ascent and is clearly in the top ten of NFL QB’s, and may not be finished growing.
Now some of the Cultists are easing their way on to the band wagon, but still claiming they were right all along [as predicted by Claude - I was wrong about how thickheaded they would be, I just didn't think it was possible to be so dense].
Tim hasn’t been here for months. And you have the thing with 23J. Even Grant pointed it out.
I hope you never negotiate in life claude. We all wanted Tim to get off of AS’s back. He says he will. Why not cheer him on? You got what you wanted. We can all cheer him on together. And you aren’t happy? Go with it claude. If you don’t, I assure you it won’t get better.
C Balls – Why is DS telling you what to do?
DS – Best Niner team we’ve had since 1994-1995, enjoy the week. Why be an instigator?
Good times! Like Hofer said.
@ DS:
The irony/hypocrisy/lack of self-awareness in your comments in this thread is astounding.
But I will make sure to call you the next time I need help with a negotiation.
@Crab15:
C Balls – Why is DS telling you what to do?
Because that’s what DS does. I guess it was my turn.
C Balls – Right on, I should’ve minded my own business anyway. My bad.
C15
Not telling claude anything he didn’t tell me. You guys really need to try to look at different perspectives man.
And I was here yesterday telling the blog to stop moaning and complaining. That stupid MC was unhappy look, that was instigating.
But whatever man. I’m done with this topic. If making peace involves slight insults to others, you’ll be happy here.
DS,
The Crabtree thing was an opinion that I didn’t even solicit you about. Do you see where you are constantly out of line. It wasn’t for you but you managed to her involved anyway. You need a vacation from the blog. Take a couple weeks off. We’ll survive here without you. Thanks.
DS,
Take a break and get over this belief that you have something meaningful to offer in every topic. This is nothing remotely close to the never ending slap fight you continue to have with AES.
Tim has been throwing this stuff around for many years and even his concession post above is not without a derogatory reference to what he believes happened in the past.
If Tim had come out and just said he was wrong in the way he chastised and ridiculed Smith all those years and that he now understood how much a stable enviornment and good Coaching matters in the development of a player, I’d tell Tim I was proud of his admission and give him credit for having the balls to admit his view was narrow minded. Tim didn’t, and probably never will do that, which is why I don’t give him any props for making a half hearted attempt at a vote of confidence.
The fifth and sixth years [the organization was in chaos replete with the worst coaching in the history of the NFL]
Fixed that for you, ex.
@tim…. Cheers to that brotha. We are all winners and the vibe at yesterday’s game is still very much alive and well. It’s been a loooong time since the fans of sf have had a confident chip on their shoulders. I’ve read your posts for a long time. And I agreed with your take on smith. Like I’ve said before what fan doesn’t want what’s best for their team RIGHT NOW. Smith had finally turned the corner since last season and like I said we all win. Some on here can say they were right about smith since day 1. That’s a hoax. And that goes both ways. Whether he was going to be good or bad the rest of his career. I’m done with the smith debating and looking forward to a Super Bowl win. You’ve always kept it real Tim. And I respect that. Even though you get piled on. I’m sure it ruins your life though. Lol cheers brotha. Go Niners
MD, ?
The Smith-wagon is getting kinda crowded. Welcome aboard, latecomers!
Maybe it’s because the wagon has wheels now. Lol just sayin. round these here parts you gotta earn your general stripes. Especially following the great generals of the past. I am not saying smith is as good as them , but he isn’t hurting our team either.
FDM: Not so,I have always said I took into consideration the poor coaching and the poor O line and receivers etc,when I judged (IMHO) how Alex was performing HIS job on the field of play.
I always thought ,even under the circumstances he had to deal with that he could have performed much better than he actually did.
BUT as we learned over the years of failure, Urban Meyer was 100% correct,that Alex would not be worth much until he had consistency and until he learned the entire offense and was 100% comfortable .
I judged Alex against what I have seen other QB’s do in similar situations. Alex failed ,others who didn’t need what Urban Meyer told us Alex needed probably would have done better in those poor years,but that is not who Alex is .
Now we are seeing for the first time ewhat Meyer was talking about. Meyer understood because of his personal contact with Alex for years…I did not understand that Alex needed special treatment…,now I understand.
Let us hope that Alex will continue to grow now,since he is far from a finished product,at least not according to my judgement. (JMHO).
wheels now, md? You don’t get to 13-3 and a botched ST play away from from the SB running on flats. But that didn’t stop you from dumping on AS last season, did it?
Prime: I have never been interested in Fantasy Football and have been a loyal 49ers fan since the 70′s.so if you were referring to me ,you were wrong .
Rocket.
I love how Alex is playing for the last 2 games,VERY much but the fact of the matter is that when Alex was playing poorly on the field of play I said so and when he plays well I say so,it’s up to Alex what my opinion is of his play not up to me to love his performance no matter what. Maybe the word “sucked” when referring to Alex’s first 6 years was a little harsh,so forgive me if that word offended you.
I hope alex continues to perform as well as last week all season long. If he does I will praise him to high Heaven,because he will deserve it ,if he doesn’t play well I mwill say the truth (IMHO) and if that offends you then I apologize in advance for upsetting you .
So Tim as a 49er fan, and as a loyal follower of the organization, you have seen how Montana was developed by Walsh, as well as Steve Young, and Garcia by Mooch as his coach for consecutive years so my questions is, how come you never have anknowledged the fact that Alex Smith’s career in the NFL and the way he was developed by the organization was their fault?
You just have said that when he plays poorly you identify that and when he plays well, you have also identified that. So being the loyal follower that you are, can you admit the reasons why Alex has played so poorly or is it a talent thing for you with Alex?
Tim, we’ve discussed this over and over. You never put any of the blame on the ownership – ever. You often praised the ownership while denigrating the QB even though they hired the HCs that weren’t qualified. I’d often mention to you that they didn’t have a system, program or plan for success. Remember? I’m sure you do yet you blamed only the QB. Now, guess what? Those three organization attributes for success (system, program, and plan) are in place. Enjoy your 9ers!
FDM & Hof: Not so,I have always said I took into consideration the poor coaching and the poor O line and receivers etc,when I judged (IMHO) how Alex was performing HIS job on the field of play.
I always thought ,even under the circumstances he had to deal with that he could have performed much better than he actually did.
BUT as we learned over the years of failure, Urban Meyer was 100% correct,that Alex would not be worth much until he had consistency and until he learned the entire offense and was 100% comfortable .
I judged Alex against what I have seen other QB’s do in similar situations. Alex failed ,others who didn’t need what Urban Meyer told us Alex needed probably would have done better in those poor years,but that is not who Alex is .
Now we are seeing for the first time ewhat Meyer was talking about. Meyer understood because of his personal contact with Alex for years…I did not understand that Alex needed special treatment…,now I understand.
Let us hope that Alex will continue to grow now,since he is far from a finished product,at least not according to my judgement. (JMHO).
@ TIM:
I judged Alex against what I have seen other QB’s do in similar situations. Alex failed ,others who didn’t need what Urban Meyer told us Alex needed probably would have done better in those poor years
Who are the other QBs in “similar situations” against whom you judged Smith’s performance? Name them or GTFO.
“I judged Alex against what I have seen other QB’s do in similar situations”
Tim, you’ve missing the point! The situations prior to 2011 were *never* similar. Were you comparing AS to DBrees, TBrady, ARodgers, or EManning? They all had the same HC and system/program for 5+ years? See the difference?
hof
You contradict yourself.
If you and Tim have gone over this overand over, and your angles haven’t worked yet, why continue it?
Maybe Tim figures it out himself in a way that makes sense to him and at a time when it’s possible. I doubt you’ll figure it out. He’ll have too.
Tim,
The issue I have always had with your posts, and trust me you’ve been around a loooonggggg time doing this, is your inane need to talk out of both sides of your mouth. You can’t make a positive comment without confirmation that you also don’t think he played well before or that some other guy is the future etc.
Your problem has always been not seeing the whole picture Tim. You cheer on the guys who play well and ridicule the ones who don’t without allowing for the reasons why. I remember you being on the Smith cheer squad before and after he was drafted and then falling off around the time he came back with the injured shoulder. You are a primary example of the spoiled fan who turns on a player the moment they aren’t giving you what you want. You don’t listen to reason, you just turn your back and criticize until…lo and behold the player you gave up on comes back and starts to play better. Then all of a sudden it’s like the resurrection. Smith was awful, he sucked, he was useless and weak…but now the God of Harbaugh has brought him back from the dead and he’s turned him into a viable QB. No real credit given to the player just amazement that the Coach could turn him into something worthwhile. I have no doubt that the moment he plays a bad game – and he will – you will be right back to your usual style of:
“he’s a nice guy I like Alex, but I always knew he couldn’t do it on the field, I can’t wait for – insert name of current QB crush here – to develop so we can have a real QB leading this team.”
You are who you are Tim. I’ll never tell you where and when to post, but I’ll also never respect your opinion or thoughts in this area because you lost that with your actions a long time ago.
Hof: I guess we should just be happy that out team has a QB who is playing at a high level NOW,and leave it at that. I have always tried to be fair to Alex and have treated him the same as every other player on my team. He is playing well now,so he will get my praise,when he wasn’t playing well,no matter what the reason,he didn’t . That’s life !
And CLAUDE, I love you too !!! Funny,even though the team is winning and bAlex is doing great,you still sound bitter and hateful,how sad for you . :( I hope you feel better ,you are in my prayers !
And Rocket,you also are in my prayers,I hope you have a happy life !
And now those of you with reason see why I don’t visit here more often,there is little class associated with this site all too often. Often it is Grant’s fault,but all too often it is just some few hateful fans without class.
GO NINERS !!!
@ TIM:
As expected, you can’t back up your b/s. You never can.
I am very happy with the 49ers’ success. Just like I was happy with the team’s success last year. It’s a great time to be a 49ers fan. I am not a fan, however, of your phony platitudes.
It’s nice that you are praying for me, but if your prayers as as insincere as your comments on this blog, then I doubt they are doing me much good.
See you around Tim and when you develop an understanding of what Class means, feel free to come back and try again.
@rocket:
You invited TIM to come back? We are no longer on speaking terms.
Rocket,
Is everything that has happened in Alex Smith’s career someone else’s fault? Does he accept any responsibility for the horrible play in his 1st 5 years(barring injury) when he was playing. Was it always someone else’s fault. They didn’t throw the picks. What about when he played decent the few times he did. Does the OC’s and head coaches get credit for that?
The real is, he played crappy for a number of reasons. But it was his fault. There are not 32 Jim Harbaughs in the NFL. Alex can’t play and succeed under all of them. That’s why at least 30 of them were not interested in him. He is average and he always has been. He’s no better this year than last. He has a few more weapons and a better defense. His numers are a but better but we’ve not played any elite defenses. Both secondaries were horrible.
So you’re saying that Smith needed JH and Roman 6 years ago. What about McCarthy? He doesn’t seem to be doing a bad job with Rogers. Oh that’s right, McCarthy helped draft Smith.
We have a system fit and a game manager that appears to be ideal for this offense. Let me ask you a question Rocket. How many other NFL starting QB could run this offense in your opinion?
@ 23welcher:
Do you always wear eyeliner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXAU4MmMIMo
Let’s give the haters credit for one thing, and Tim you are the best at it, DANCING. I have never witnessed more people dance around the fundamental issues of Alex career like the haters.
@23welcher, if any QB could run this offense why didn’t JH go with your boy JJ at a very discounted rate and save the Yorks 8 million a year and give them more cap room? You like to ask a lot of questions so please answer this one question for me?
You invited TIM to come back? We are no longer on speaking terms.
Momentary lapse of reason Claude. A shot of JD and dunking my head in a bucket of icewater has brought me back to sanity.
Opportunity lost.
Way to show that Tim is the bad guy people. Very convincing argument.
Opportunity nonexistent.
prime
If any QB can run this offense, then you are right. Or close to it anyway. The Niners would have chosen ST as our starter. Then next year with the 7th pick (one of a hundred by last count), we draft a QB. And have him run the offense. Saving the money spent on an “elite” QB to strengthen/maintain our superiority on defense and special teams and playmakers.
So, JJ wouldn’t have every stayed (not cheaper than ST). But AS would be gone. And next year, so would ST. And the year after that, the guy who started in 2013 would be sent packing.
Anybody is practically nobody when it comes down to it.
If you want to think so, that is your perogative claude.
Tim,
Your problem is, like rocket said, you ride the fence. If you’re in the car with Smith, ride with him during the good and the bad. If you’re not, than say that. You pay him this heap of praise filled with backhanded compliments. Just say he used to be garbage but now he’s playing better.
@ DS:
Here is what TIM wrote after being warmly greeted by you:
It is rather hard to be unbiased, after so many years of failure and ineptitude from alex, but I believed I was always telling the truth when I said he sucked and now that he is playing really good football I also must tell it like it is ! I am very happy for alex but most of all I am happy for me,that I finally have a QB running MY team who seems capable of making plays ! (Emphasis added.)
TIM hasn’t changed, and there is no reason to think that he ever will.
23j I also would like to hear your answer reagarding your comment about you thinking any QB could run this offense?
If this offense is so simple and any game manger could do it, why no go with an economical subsitiute like Prime mentioned. The other question is, is that why Manning chose the Broncos, cause this offense was too simple for him? Or was it because JH wanted to run this particular offense and manning wanted more control and 90 million dollars later?
I don’t understand your reasoning so if you care to explain it, maybe we could understand your reasoning.
Either way, no one is right how Smith got here or why. The bottom line is he is the leader of the offense, making all the right calls at the line and making plays by getting into the playmakers hand.
Jordan,
Of course he has to accept responsibility for things within his control, and it hasn’t all been Peaches and Cream obviously. What I point to in response to questions like this is: unless you are basing your opinion on how he played as a rookie or when he was injured, you really can’t say he’s been as bad as you claim, and if you are basing it on that, then you need to get over the past and come into the present and future.
The problem a player runs into when changing systems and terminology every year is you never get a complete grasp of it or achieve a comfort level. You are studying at night and practicing during the day and just as you reach a point where the light is going on, you start all over again. You’re right he had McCarthy for one year. One year and then started in a completely new offense under Norv Turner. By contrast Rodgers sat behind Favre for 3 years, learning and practicing the same system. There is no comparison between Smith and Rodgers in terms of their development. Rodgers got a life jacket, while Smith was thrown into Shark infested waters and told to swim. There was no stability in SF until Harbaugh showed up.
I’ve posted career stats for Smith before and what you find out pretty quickly is he played pretty well once he came back from the second shoulder surgery. Did he turn the ball over too much at times? Sure. There were instances where he’d throw the bad pick or fumble the ball, but his record and numbers showed improvement each season from the time he replaced Shaun Hill in Houston to the other night against Detroit at the stick. He’s been on an upward climb for 3 years now but his detractors haven’t seen it or didn’t want to see it. He hasn’t been Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees but he wasn’t Steve Stenstrom or Ken Dorsey either.
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again: I truly believe things went sour with a high percentage of fans when Nolan forced him back too soon after the shoulder injury. He played poorly and was getting criticized for bad mechanics and decision making by analysts doing 9er games. He was branded a pussy by his HC for not playing through the pain and coming back sooner which just poisoned the well even further. That very small sampling of games seems to have labled him as a bust and it’s unfair.
I’m not, nor have I ever been an unabashed Smith backer. I’ve had questions and doubts about him at various times in his career. His rookie season was one of the worst in history; I doubted he could ever come back from two surgeries on the same shoulder and then thought he was probably going to be a journeyman backup when he did eventually return; and then was sure he was done as a Niner when Sing was fired and they started over.
Like most fans, I blew a gasket when he fumbled that ball against Philly 3 years ago, but unlike the fans at the stick booing and chanting for David freaking Carr, I calmed down, picked up the broken glass from the cocktail I fired across the room and continued watching with an open mind because I had seen him bring the team back against the Saints a couple of weeks prior. And you know what? He almost did it again. In the midst of 60,000 plus people thinking of ways they could kidnap and torture him, and his Coach ready to bench him after screaming in his face, Smith went back out, led two TD drives and almost pulled out a win. That showed me a lot and the crux of it was, his will and determination are unbreakable. He will not quit. He comes back to a place his own family told him was a bad idea, and he excells. It’s an amazing story of mental toughness and perseverence, and is why I don’t question him anymore. I’m not annointing him the future just yet, but I also don’t see him losing his job due to his play. If he loses it, it will be because a superior athlete learned the system just as well and beat him out.
He’s not the gunslinger style QB who brings you out of your seat with 40 yard lasers, or running around until finding a receiver across the field for a big gain on a broken play. What he does however is the little things that don’t jump off the TV screen or the stat pages. He doesn’t beat himself and he doesn’t play selfishly. He plays to achieve the goal of winning and that is what draws Harbaugh to him and he to Harbaugh. They are meat and Potatoes. Get it done anyway you can and it doesn’t have to be pretty, in fact sometimes it’s better if it isn’t in some cases. You don’t like the sacks he takes Jordan, yet you would be on here ripping him unmercilously if he fumbled while trying to get rid of the ball to avoid a sack. You can’t have it both ways.
Let me ask you a question Rocket. How many other NFL starting QB could run this offense in your opinion?
A lot could run it but I’m not sure how many would have the ability to put their personal aspirations aside and play for their teammates the way Smith does. That’s a key component to the success of this offense and I don’t think there are as many QB’s willing to do that as you think there are.
Rocket just want to add that when Norv left for SD, that was a huge loss to the 49ers organization as well as to Smith’s development. That was a major turning point in his career.
The second point I would add is learning over 200+ new plays every year for 7 years is mind boggling. Not only do you need to learn the terminology, you need to learn what everyone else on offense needs to do, the cadence of the play, and then the physical execution of each play. Now granted some plays overlap from system to system, but unlike Rodgers, sitting and learning for three years, practicing it over that three year period gave him the confidence and comfortability to go out when the bulletes were live and execute. Smith never had that luxury and that’s on the organization.
You can just see Smith’s confidence now and anyone who has ever played sports knows that when a player is confident and comfortbale in what he needs to do, the less he has to think and that can carry you tremendously to being successful as we are seeing in Alex.
claude
Please tell me how often any two different viewpoints have ever gotten ok with the staunch requirement that one side admit total wrong doing for past actions?
Think about it.
The US government didn’t tell US Japanese citizens “Sorry” when they left the Internment camps. That actually took a LONG time. Had the Japanese here taken the same stance as you and rocket and I’m guessing others, then we would have lost out on all the good those people and their children/grandchildren/etc. would have contributed to the US in all the years since because they would have left. They would have gone “Well, you don’t apologize for that, I’m leaving the US going back to Japan.”
You want people to admit wrong doing for past indiscretions (in your eyes mind you, not theirs) before going forward with them in a peaceful manner. For a guy who has come up with some nice thoughts, you two have completely lost all sense of reason over this. You have chosen that you want somebody to admit they were wrong when they don’t think they were over a peace treaty on the blog.
If you want the blog to be a nice environment, one where opposing views are shared, then you can’t possibly reason your subsequent posts to Tim. By the way, I have not wavered since coming here in wanting that. I ignore posts to try to help achieve that goal.
You guys can at the very least act like adults and not spoiled children who got every toy they wanted for Christmas. Life isn’t like that. This blog is no exception.
I am truly sorry if you don’t want a nice blog environment. I do.
And if AES wants to chime in and bash me for this reply coming after I stated I was done with the topic, feel free. I feel this post was worth it.
@DS:
Please spare me the lecture on maintaining a nice blog environment.
You have antagonized and irritated nearly every other commenter on this blog, to the point where several people have told you to go away. You get in more fights on this blog than anyone else, and you routinely drag out your battles with other commenters (e.g., AES, Jack, 49er Girl) to ridiculous lengths. Your claim that you want a nice blog environment (and the insinuation that you are a better person for wanting one) is laughably hypocritical and not to be taken seriously.
The same goes for the “peace treaties” that you claim to value so highly. Have you managed to negotiate even one successful peace treaty with anyone on this blog? Again, you are the last person to chastise anyone on this subject.
Finally, you misunderstand my dislike of TIM. I don’t dislike TIM because he was wrong and won’t admit it. I dislike him because he is a transparently insincere phony.
So, stop with the lectures. You aren’t qualified to give them, and no one wants to hear them. Not from you, anyway.
Rocket,
I only asked because I knew you could objectively respond and keep it respectful. I understand your position and I agree with most of what you’ve said. At least I know you understand that there can be a civil debate about Smith without it getting personal. Much respect.
FDM,
I mentioned that are several QB’s in this league who could run this offense because they can. I’m done instigating arguments so I’m done responding to instigators. Prime is an instigator. To answer your question, JH got the next best thing to Manning when Manning turned us down. Smith had a year in the system and JH knew he had a little butt kissing to do with Smith but he also knew he had some credibility as well. You must admit he put Smith’s heart, mind and career back on the tracks.
Who knows what Manning was thinking about. He had to see what we saw last year about this team. He’s nuts. Alex is playing well. I do respect and appreciate it. I want my team to go undefeated and win a super bowl. I don’t care how we do it. Just get it done!
claude
Tim didn’t say anything bad about you. You did of him. Your perception is that Tim is a phoney. Then why bother with him? He ain’t pestering after you. 49ergirl/AES do pester after me. Why not ignore him unless he’s talking about you? I do that fine. If others can’t, they are to blame. You instigate stuff every time you reply to him. Most times, you jump in without reason beyond a personal vendetta to a guy who thinks AS sucked till this year. Not the worst thing in the world. So why the assault? Relax man. It’s a blog. Opposing views are why I come here. Just as long as they are respectful. Don’t take it like its life or death.
rocket, claude, and exgolfer hit the nail on the head, like always. I rarely need to post anymore because these guys take the words right out of my mouth. Well done, amigos. It’s refreshing to see there are other intelligent football fans on this blog.
I learned my lesson long ago not to even bother debating anything related to Alex Smith. Been down that road far too may times. Some people refuse to accept reality because they are too dense to understand the game or admit they were wrong. It is what it is. Some folks never got it, still don’t get it, and never will get it. I won’t lose sleep over it.
DS, I have no problem with you, but you really need to take a break man. The blog is constantly flooded with your comments, and I rarely see you actually discuss football.
@ Claude
Thanks for pointing out some of the hypocrisy that DS blogs.
Alex Smith number one on Kurt Warners top five list. Understood its subjective but really, who would of thought?
And mine/yours/Grants/etc. aren’t subjective?
Who cares man? We are 2-0. Both games against playoff teams from last year. AS and MC haven’t proven JH to be a liar. Our D is still great.
Anybody complaining about us right now should be banned. No hope for them.
hof has it all wrong. “Good times” is a low key way of putting it. I haven’t felt this since 1989! And JM was older and had more of an injury history plaguing him by that point. This is awesome.
I might have missed something while I was at work, but isn’t the site blogger Grant Cohn? I am seeing all these invites to leave by the same two people and I just wanted to make sure I was still on the same Press Democrat blog. Silliness. I’m tired of scrolling through insult, insult, invite to leave, threat, threat, invite to leave insult, football fact, insult, insult, invite to leave, Football fact, threat, threat, threat, insult, invite to leave.
Would it be possible to impliment an “ignore button” so that you can just avoid all the banter? It’s about 4 people total and you’d still get the 300 hits, the rest of us just wouldn’t have to read the Jerry Springer edits.
Are you callin’ me out? Are you talkin’ to me? Why I outta………….!
Just teasing, you’re correct, it gets tedious. Particularly Annoying when thumb scrolling on a phone or iPad.
LOL +1000!
Medic,
I apologize for my part in ruining your blogging experience. I will do my best to keep it on the up and up for the remainder of the evening.
+10^6.
That is a fantastic idea.
“Ignore” button please!
medic
I don’t see many insults on this blog page.
I’ve favored an ignore button for a LONG TIME. And an edit button would be nice as well.
Though these suggestions have started fights. I don’t get it. But that is what happened.
It’s really a shame Alex didn’t get Comeback Player of the Year in 2011.
I think a Lombardi this year would take all the sting out of that.
Like JH says,just get a little better this week and the rest will take care of itself.
I have said many time on this site and others that I would love nothing more than to see the fine gentleman Alex Smith hoisting up that Lombardi Trophy and being awarded the MVP of the Super Bowl. I never really believed it was possible ,but right now I have hope that it WILL be a reality !
Now it is up to the team to perform as well as they have the last 2 weeks for the remainder of the season and maybe most important of all,to remain healthy into the playoffs !