Cosell says Alex Smith isn’t a “late-in-the-down quarterback”

Here’s what NFL Films analyst Greg Cosell said about Alex Smith Thursday morning on The Murph and Mac Show.

COSELL: “I don’t know what’s in Jim Harbaugh’s head. I don’t know what’s in Alex Smith’s head. I can tell you my sense watching the tape was that Alex was concerned about throwing interceptions. He checked down fairly quickly – if the primary read was not there, he checked it down. Again, I don’t know if he’s told that. But one thing is clear – he’s not really what we call a ‘late-in-the-down quarterback.’ In other words, when he drops black, he plants and throws. If that throw is not there, he doesn’t necessarily stay in the pocket and go through progressions. That’s what I mean by ‘late in the down.’ He’s not really that kind of quarterback.”

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206 Responses to Cosell says Alex Smith isn’t a “late-in-the-down quarterback”

  1. niner says:

    in layman’s terms he pl;ays scared right? If he has to win a game without a dominant Defense, running game and special teams, he cant do it. Shucks everyone knows that. We jsut happen to be so good in the above areas that other teams cant exploit it well. OUr blow out by the vikings , and Giants clearly show K Johnson is correct ( ughhh having to admit it) . Throw quickly on first down , as the 49ers pass rush is not like the NY Giants, get up and then load the box taking away intermediate routes from smith. He cannot beat you consistently deep one on one ala Manning , brees Rodgers brady etc.. regardless of the WR. The thought that some nitwits actually suggested he was on the level of thsoe guys ( better for the 49ers then Payton???) is just plain ignorant! ( they should quit smoking their meds and get out of their parents house and get a real job!)

    • Ed from AZ says:

      If that’s the case and that’s how you beat Alex Smith, then how come EVERY team hasn’t done that EVERY game??? If it was that easy, then we would have more losses right now.

      You Monday Morning Qb’s crack me up!

      • claude balls says:

        @ Ed:

        Exactly.

      • FDM says:

        This is exactly my point that I have brought up after every game Ed. Everyone seems to think that Smith cannot throw it well enough from 15-25 yards plus area and exploit defenses deep.
        Then why on Gods green earth are teams not stacking the box on every down with 10 guys, keep one semi deep, and have him throw it every single down?
        If defensve coordinators thought this then they would do it right and the 49ers would be so easy to beat. Its an opinion that has zero value.
        Buffalo tried this and they still got ran over and passed on for 600 plus yards.
        To beat the Niners and Alex Smith you play a balanced attack. Change schemes after the ball is snapped. Play coverage and rush four seems to be the best formula against this offense.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Get with it Ed.

        The bloggers here know more than the HC’s/GM’s in the NFL. Don’t believe me? They say so all the time. And they have the stats to prove it.

      • Remote-Control says:

        Alex Smith is a cowardly little man, afraid of his own shadow, too afraid to go through his progressions. A pathetic excuse of a football player, much less a quarterback. I have loved the Niners all my life but until that little wretch is excised from the team, I will make a point of belittling him every chance I get.

        He deserves to be swamping out the Civic Center BART station for the rest of his miserable life.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        Hate without proof. Yawn.

      • ninermd says:

        Teams have beat Alex smith. What they can’t beat is the running game and defense. And of course the Smithers are in full force to back your words of ignorance Ed! Wow! Still Alex smith getting these wins. With HIS part being the weakest of this team. What’s new? Lol

      • 49erman says:

        Smh ! Please share some that kool aid you’re drinking.

    • jomona says:

      niner, can you please change your name…

      It just doesn’t sound right saying “hey niner, you are an idiot”.

    • Ed from AZ says:

      Yeah, we keep hearing that over and over, and since those bloggers think it’s a simple scheme to employ vs SF, one would think we would see it repeatedly, IF NFL coaches thought it to be true.

      But from their gameplans against the SF Offense, we can see that they don’t believe in the “take away the short routes and stack the box to win” theory.

      If it was that easy to figure out, “niner” would have a coaching job somewhere, and I am guessing he does manage a team with all that knowledge, most likely a Fantasy Team though.

    • Nick says:

      Niner,
      Well said. Don’t mind these Smith Cult members who rush in to bash you for critical comments about Alex Smith. These nitwits (nice word, by the way) fail to acknowledge that the Niners are a hard team to beat because of: defense, special teams, and solid coaching. Even with a limited QB, they’re able to win. Imagine how good this team would be with a better QB.

      • claude balls says:

        Yes, he should stick with the Anti-Smith Cult members. Then he won’t have to pay attention to pesky things like facts, logic and wins and losses.

      • Ed from AZ says:

        Who’s bashing anyone who doesn’t like Alex Smith? We’re looking at things from an objective point of view. It is the Anti-Smith people who have some kind of rage or vendetta against Alex, likely from his early years in SF, and don’t change their minds easily.

        I’ll admit I wasn’t excited about Alex in the first few years and hated the game-killing INT’s, but a rational person could see that he is not that QB anymore. Every QB has his struggles, and Alex will also. But his growth as a QB can not be denied. He may not be all-pro or HOF, but he can get the job done.

      • Nick says:

        Claude Balls
        Here’s a fact for you: defense, special teams, and solid coaching are what make the Niners hard to beat. The QB is asked not to make mistakes.

      • claude balls says:

        It must be true if you say it, huh, Nick?

        19-6.

      • ribico says:

        >>defense, special teams, and solid coaching are what make the Niners hard to beat.

        Here’s a surprise for the unobservant. It still take points scored to win games. And a bigger surprise – it’s the offense that scores the vast majority of those points. If our offense was as easy to shut down as our niner friend suggests, how on earth are they scoring *any* points, let alone enough to power a 5-2 record?

      • AngusinCanada says:

        How about a near all-time record for fewest int’s for a 16 game starter? That have anything to do with it, Nick?

      • Nick says:

        Angus
        What led to such low INT numbers? Perhaps the coaching staff limiting AS to half the field and ONE read and dump off playing style?

      • Nick says:

        Ribico
        How many of those points came via AS in the redzone? How about if you take Akers out of the picture? How many points do we leave on the board because AS doesn’t throw to a wide open receiver?

      • DS94everXev says:

        Nick

        nick

        How many points has Akers not come thru for us on?
        How many points have the Niners WR’s left by not getting open?

        This can go on as long as you want. We are 5-2. Be happy instead of mad.

      • ninermd says:

        Ed!!! Objective isn’t giving credit to one player that runs a certain part if the team “which is the weakest BTW” credit for wins. Plain and simple. Really Ed. Without a defense this good and a running game this good. Lets say average. Do the 49ers make even the playoffs?

  2. Mood_Indigo says:

    Alex Smith is a very good system QB, and I don’t mean it in a pejorative way. If the coach wants him to become a gunslinger he’d out 100% effort behind it and would probably do fine. But Harbaugh wants to prioritize ball protection. So Alex plays likewise. What one sees on tape does not necessarily put a limit on what Alex can do.

    • Ed from AZ says:

      Agree. We’re not forced to be a gunslinging Offense like teams that lack a running game, so why should we try to become one. I’m down with the style of play and don’t mind when they sprinkle in a couple throws downfield as they have been. I’m not clamoring for a bunch of vertical routes, cuz they are easier to defend when the other team knows that’s your primary weapon. A prime example of this is Stafford and the Lions. Teams have pretty much shut down the vertical passes to CJ81 by leaving two safeties deep.

    • 55Niner says:

      You know Mood, I think I have to agree with you…to some degree.
      This thing with Alex not throwing downfield to receivers, that replay shows are open enough, has gone on too long. I don’t believe that he’s incapable of making the downfield throw, nor do I think he’s afraid of doing it. As I noted in a post I made a couple of days ago, if he’s incapable, for whatever reason, and the coaching staff sees that to be the case, then make the necessary changes….if they don’t think he’s incapable, why are we checking down so soon? And, the thing that really gets me is that I haven’t seen Jim Harbaugh question Alex about his decision to check down, nor have I seen him get on him for throwing a pick…the fragile psyche thing others write about, to me, is all BS. There’s no way Alex would be on the field if he displayed any lack of mental toughness…the other offensive players would see right through it. There’s more to it than AS worrying about int’s, or lacking confidence. If not, then the coaching staff should be called out on the carpet for this one.

  3. LasVegasWally says:

    I’m a gambler and a 49′er fan since 1976. Gamblers have an expression, “Play the hand you’re dealt.” Alex is going to be our QB for this an next season and JH needs to use his strengths to get us in the win column.

    I saw and remember fondly Joe and Steve and at time NEVER realized how good we had it.

    I like Alex and wish him great things every game BUT he is not a franchise QB. He is what he is and that’s our reality.

    • bayareafanatic says:

      Careful gambler,
      with comments like that you’ll be labeled a hater. But you are correct.

      • AngusinCanada says:

        So you agree Bay that he’s our QB for this year and next? Good to know! Go break the news to your your buddy 23J…

    • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

      Vegas,
      He wont be here next year. He’s lucky to be here now. Peyton Manning lost his mind.

      • 49erman says:

        @3jordan, we heard the same story over and over. You’ll probably be laid off from your job, and Alex Smith is still with the 49ers..

  4. bayareafanatic says:

    Any of the unfabulous five want to bet on their average QB this week? I bet any of the fab five Smithers that Smith won’t throw for 190. Loser stays off the blog for a week. Takers?????
    Of course not.

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      Who’s in the fab five?

      • bayareafanatic says:

        You are the king of them.
        Hof
        FDM
        BS
        Prime ( lost to the Smithers for two weeks )
        Claude
        MWN
        Rib
        So I guess this is the FAB seven. I’ll open it up to any of you. Little by little embarrassing your group weekly that your meek QB cannot on a weekly basis surpass the football mendoza line.
        Takers?????

      • Neal says:

        I would not say that MWN is a Smither, he really wanted Drew Brees before the Saints resigned him and he gave AS a grade of a C, so far this year. Also I believe a couple of Fab 7 are the same person. The others are all tea party members.

      • DS94everXev says:

        bay

        Whoever BS is, they are certainly under your skin and in your what your so called mind

        Wish I could be that person.

        Just go away. Far away. Make your own blog where you can bitch and cry and moan about everybody who isn’t you and let us have some peace.

      • FDM says:

        Neal kinda like how you and 23welcher are the same person?

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        You’ve left off Undercenter, Rocket, Adam, Ceadderman, MountainMan16, 49erman, txtree49, 55niner, LSX and a few others. All fit your so-called definition of a smither for what it is worth!

      • 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! says:

        Bay,

        You left off Ceadderman for sure. The guy defends Smith on every blog on the bay, SFGate, sacbee, csn, mercurynews, here and bleacher and Espn. Check it out on Tuesday when Smith craps again on Monday. They will not bet you. Hofer certainly won’t.
        The list includes,

        LSX,
        49erkid/ man
        Txtree
        Rocket just got inaugurated because of him defending Smiths horrible play! Lol

      • FDM says:

        23welcher, your the last guy that should be sticking his nose in any thread regarding bets.

        Like I told you earlier, not only are youa cancer on here for welching, but anknowledging that harsh/violent opinions are okay, GTF outta her!

      • Nick says:

        FDM

        You should change that name to FDL for Feakin’ Dumb Liar. You’ve been exposed – you flat out lied yesterday.

      • FDM says:

        Lied Nick, come on man! What did I lie about? Find the entire thread of that conversation and tell me how it really went.
        Then, back to Cal and get a real education this time. They obviously did not teach you well enough.

      • undercenter says:

        Thanks Hof I was feeling left out lol.

      • DS94everXev says:

        All you fools are doing is providing Prime a ton of ammo when he comes back. The stupid/horrible stuff that has been said (spit saying he wants AS career to end via injury, and you haters just waving it off like nothing)…

        You lost the bet bay. The bet that you are a fan. That was what the bet was really about. No fan puts stats into a bet. They care about winning games. You don’t. Prime exposed you. You lost, and he’ll have something to say to you in another week I’m sure.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        “Rocket just got inaugurated because of him defending Smiths horrible play! Lol”

        Jordo, you had no factual based response!! It wasn’t a give and take…you were taking it all day!! LOL

      • BigP says:

        FDM,
        You know what you said, and Crabs found the exact quote yesterday after you denied ever saying it. Let it go already.

      • BigP says:

        “All you fools are doing is providing Prime a ton of ammo when he comes back.”

        Like anybody cares. It’s kind of like when everybody knew that Oneniner and Latino Heat were the same person, yet you pretended they weren’t because they followed your brand of lunacy.

      • FDM says:

        Iiknow what I said, I also know what you and Crab15 said. Find the post and we can identify the entire thread and find out what was really said. You guys call me a liar and a person looking for physical confrontation, that i a complete lie.
        Now you and that idiot Neal want to expose me, find the proof and lets talk. Otherwise I suggest you keep it football related.

      • Neal says:

        FDM,

        Your back on here brave guy, are you going to see Big P, in Danville, he is going to spank you to the next zip code. You were CAUGHT in the cookie Jar. Yo lost all credibility on here. New name for you Freaking delusional monkey. Time to go to animal control with primate.

      • FDM says:

        Neal/23welcher, settle down son. Lets not turn this into another one of your child tantrums. Your exhausting.

      • BigP says:

        FDM,
        You KNOW what you said. I remember the conversation very well because it was such a odd threat, I found it hilarious. Crab posted the quote after you denied it, game over. Back to football….

      • FDM says:

        I could find a million quotes of what you haters have said,what does that mean?
        Find the actual comment, then we can identify the entire thread and find out what was really said on both sides. Just because you and crab15 said so means its true, come man! Otherwise, you let it go and back to football.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        Thanks Neal. Also Bay, don’t forget I have I said that Smith’s decision-making needs to improve. A Smither thinks of Smith as a deity.

      • rocket says:

        Jordan,

        It was inevitable that I would wind up on your Smithers list. I’m surprised it took this long.

        Bay instead of trying to find bets for how bad you think Smith will do why not explore why that most likely will happen.

        Arizona is a tough defense. playing at home with a strong pass rush. The Niners have a formula for how they play in this type of game: run the ball and play good defense. Nothing will change this week.

      • Crab15 says:

        BigP – If Giants win tonight I will send the entire link.

    • jgwindsor says:

      237

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        JG, sorry I left you off my comment. Should I add you to the list of those that disagree that “the 9ers can’t win with AS”. Oh excuse me, that was a few years ago. Now it’s “the 9ers can’t win the Superbowl with AS”.

    • jakemall says:

      I won’t bet on yards…and you should know that yards mean almost nothing anyway…with that said…

      I’ll bet that he has a 95.0 passer rating or better… PYMWYMI?

      • jakemall says:

        If you look at how Alex played against the defenses he faced so far this season, he has for the most part played as well or better than the average of QBs playing those same defenses with the SOLE exception of the Giants game. He may not be top tier, but he is most definately better than average.

      • 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! says:

        Jake,

        He could do that by throwing 8 checkdowns to Gore, which he will likely do. That’s not a bad weaker though. He will accomplish that because JH won’t have him throw over 20 times this game. JH is starting to fear that finger and arm of Smith. It wouldn’t pain you to leave the blog, you’ve not been here long enough. We wouldn’t miss you. This bet serves as punishment to the Smithers. The guys who defend Smiths play through hell or high water.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Jake, with comments like that you’re going to be added to the fab 15+ list that believes the 9ers can win with AS, can get to the playoffs with AS, and can win the Superbowl with AS.

      • claude balls says:

        @jakemall:

        Thanks for providing that perspective, but I guarantee you that it will have no effect on guys like 23welcher and bay. Context and relevant facts mean nothing to them.

    • claude balls says:

      @bay:

      I see that you are still afraid to bet win or loss. I guess you do admit that you were wrong and that the 49ers can win with Smith at QB.

      • FDM says:

        Claude, Bay is a fantasy football fan. He would rather put faith in stats than the win loss column. I have said this for weeks. He hates Smith because of the brand of football the Niners employ.
        Its all about big arm QB’s and vertical passing attacks for him. He just cannot admit it cause he wants so desperately for the 49ers to be what they once were in the 80′s under Walsh.
        I keep telling him that under JH, that might never happen. Good news, there are 31 other teams to chose from. Eventually he will clue in and be gone.

      • jakemall says:

        @23Jordan: based on Alex’s YPA, it is safe to say that he is not getting it done just on checkdowns…in fact, last time I looked, he checks down less than Brees. That said, checking down is an appropriate thing to do in a WCO.

        YOu’re right, no one would probably miss me here. I don’t read Grant’s blogs as much as I used to. (No Offense Grant, but I have not enjoyed what you have written as much as when you first came onto the scene. ) Which is why I offered a monetary bet.

        @Claude not just win or lose, but also Passer Rating. In fact, I offered the bet at 95, and the average QB has had a 67.4 against Arizona…so for an “average QB” I should only have to bet that Alex has a rating of over 68.

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        You guys sound like clowns trying to get a win or loss bet. Bay is still a fan of the team. he knows that the defense and running game can win this without Smith. He isn’t needed and against Arizona in San Francisco, he wont be needed.
        This can very easily be a loss. Arizona’s defense may score against our offense with Smith at Qb. Smith gets sackes about 5 times. He’ll run into 4 of those. He’s good at that. I don’t like this game. A road game against a quality defense against a struggling QB. I hope we win but I wouldn’t be surprised if we didnt. Arizona has to have this game and we have Alex Smith at QB. It’s a toss up.

      • claude balls says:

        @jordan:

        Since the topic isn’t “how to welch on a bet,” I don’t see how you have anything useful to add.

        How’s Josh Johnson doing? Nate Davis? Troy Smith? That All Jordan Team is stocked with some fine talent.

        By the way, are you the Jordan Taber who posted on Jack’s blog?

    • bayareafanatic says:

      Like I said, no balls.

      • claude balls says:

        Yes, we know. You lack them.

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Oh good one. Now man up and bet on your average QB

      • FDM says:

        How about a win or loss Bay? If Smith is so ineffective, they should lose right? Man up, whats the matter, no stones?

      • FDM says:

        Claude, notice how he said “your average QB”. A Niner fan referencing its his team but not his QB, somebody elses. Fantasy football fan, not a 49er fan. Too sad.

      • claude balls says:

        Who gives a crap about passing yards? It’s not fantasy football. I absolutely do not care how many yards Smith throws for. All I care about is whether or not the 49ers win. Why isn’t that important what’s to you?

        FDM has called you out to bet win or loss. Why are you ducking him?

      • DS94everXev says:

        If Smith is average, then the Niners are 8-8.

        Whenever we win our 9th game, bay leaves forever. If they don’t get their 9th win, I’ll leave forever.

        Chicken bay? Come on now. Show us your machismo.

      • jakemall says:

        Look up?

      • DS94everXev says:

        Come on now bay!

        Why so silent? Maybe I should add that to every one of my posts. That will keep you out of my way.

        Man up or cower away. It’s your choice.

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Wow,
        I go to work for a while and the little group of nerds bands together for safety.
        I first off would NEVER bet for my Niners to lose. Second, my criticism is directly pointed at one player. Your group of misfits is extremely overprotective of that one player.
        If you can’t bet that your QB will throw for 180 yards in a game, then that QB doesn’t belong behind center on my 49ers team.
        He’s average, he’s marginal and when it comes to football skills, he flat out stinks. If you believe otherwise and truly believe in Mr. Average, then bet. Otherwise by not betting you are telling me exactly what I need to know. That he’s average and that you know he’s average but that you don’t care. Because the team wins in spite of him.
        Look even your little pet poodle BS is excited running around in circles wanting to bet lol. Man up.

      • Neal says:

        BS,

        We know one thing for sure, when your crush gets cut, you will be going to a new blog, as you are a AS fan first and foremost.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Wuss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Prime showed it. I’ve simply confirmed it.

        Bay is Wuss boy!

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Wow Xilicious gets tough. Why is your name X-ilicious again? With a female avatar?
        Public domain I can put it here. Maybe I’ll post a screen shot.
        So you are suggesting you are delicious? hahahaha. Poodle.

      • jakemall says:

        @bay

        I offered passing rating as a bet. The average QB that has played AZ this season has had a score of 67.2…

        So you could certainly bet that Alex doesn’t achieve more than an average rating and not bet against the niners winning. Say, 75 or better?

        I doubt you bite. You’re going to stick to yards…which again means nothing.

      • FDM says:

        I smell chicken ala bayarea fanatic, it stinks in here!

      • ribico says:

        >>He’s average.

        How about this bet, bay? I bet you don’t hold to your stated vow to leave the board when the Niners retain that “average” QB next year. If I’m right, you leave the board. And if I’m wrong… you still leave the board.

        What’ll it be, bay? (crickets)

      • DS94everXev says:

        Neal

        You want to bet as well? You and bay together will leave if the Niners win against AZ. I’ll leave if they lose forever!

        Your dreams come true! Only thing holding you back are your multiple copies of all the wuss genes you two have.

        Either way, you’re rid of me and I’m rid of you forever! That is somehing I thought we could agree to if anything at all.

        Come on now. Show up or shut up time.

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Jake,
        first off I don’t know you so don’t come at me like you know me.
        Second, if you did know me you wouldn’t even offer that up.
        One of my biggest gripes is that the passing rating is flawed. It is based mostly on completion percentage which Smith excels in. Unfortunately he doesn’t get penalized for short passes. Safe short passes that rarely move the sticks.
        Thanks but no thanks. I threw the bet out. 75% of QB’s will throw for 180 yards and Smith won’t be one of them. But he’s elite. Or is it he’s a pro bowl calibur QB. Or is it that he’s an “expert” in our system. Oh wait, he’s “clutch”. I just amused myself because you bunch of yahoo’s sure don’t.
        If you can’t bet on the most mediocre of passing stats then why even defend the guy. Just move on and don’t say zip…..

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Rib,
        I am holding to that bet. Beginning next year if AS is the starting QB I’m gone. Grant can have his blog filled up by the entire band of Village people that pine for AS.
        But I promise you I will be gone.

      • ribico says:

        >>But he’s elite. Or is it he’s a pro bowl calibur QB. Or is it that he’s an “expert” in our system. Oh wait, he’s “clutch”.

        bay, why don’t you challenge Harbaugh to a bet. He’s the one who said those things that you are ridiculing. It must get you RIGHT here that our best coach since the walsh-seifert era repudiates everything you say. I feel sorry for you in a way.

        Oh wait, no I don’t.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        “If Smith is average, then the Niners are 8-8.”

        Not with this defense.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        From Bay:
        “Unfortunately he doesn’t get penalized for short passes. Safe short passes that rarely move the sticks.”

        Bay, I just posted this read from today’s MSando’s live blog:

        From Sando:
        “Alex Smith ranks second in NFL passer rating on passes traveling at least 15 yards past the line of scrimmage, according to Elias Sports Bureau. He has completed 16 of 29 such passes for 445 yards with three touchdowns, one interception and a 120.3 NFL passer rating. Now, he has missed a couple recently. That could have something to do with his finger, the opposing defenses, whatever. Or it could just be random.”

        It’s fact – not hyperbole or just because you said so…

      • DS94everXev says:

        Jack

        If AS throws Int’s this defense loses games. Or better put, if we lose the TO battle, we lose the game. And AS is a huge part of that battle. Look at the Giants game. All 3 of them. The winner of the TO battle wins the game. Everybody/thing else be damned.

        We win the TO battle, we’ll almost assuredly win the game. We lose that, we just as likely will lose the game. In a break even situation, we are a better team talent wise and will win the game.

        “With this defense” is making a huge invalid assumption. That any QB can do what AS can. “This defense” isn’t “this defense” if we had Cutler or Stafford or a host of other suppsedly just as good or better QB’s. “This D” simply doesn’t exist at all as “this D”. It is something much worse. If it weren’t that way, how come our D can’t protect us when we lose the TO battle? Afterall, it is they who come on the field immediately after any turnover. If they are masking for AS failures, how come they don’t win us games when our offense/ST gives away TO’s?

        Answer: They can’t (or don’t on any real basis). They succeed when AS succeeds and likewise. That is what a team means. We lost the TO battle last year several times. And the only win we had I think was in Detroit after “Clutch”. We lost to Baltimore and NY and in those two games we lost the TO battle. I forget what the TO margin was in AZ last year when we lost, but I think our offense did give at least one up.

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        Hofer,

        Sando’s stats come from the Buffalo game. He picked up what, 7 of those in that pone game? it’s called play action from the best rushing game in the NFL. You Smithers kill me qwith those hidden stats. You know why those numbers look that way. Cant wait until he falls on his face again on Monday and I can come back with the torch in your yard again! lol. For his starting job!!!

      • Jack Hammer says:

        DS,

        Smith is an average to slightly above average NFL QB. He is also their best option right now. I never said that I would want any QB that is not currently on the roster, but to say that this team has to be 8-8 to prove Smith is average is a bit of a stretch.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Jack

        JH had his chance to get other QB’s. Had PM come here, our Defense isn’t “This D”. They are quite different. They would have to play with their backs against the wall to start games, and they aren’t very good at doing that.

        Our offense may be scoring more points with PM, but our D is nothing close to what it has been with AS. Consider who the Broncos have played against as well. I do believe Tebow has beaten all the teams the Broncos have beaten with PM when the Broncos played them last year. Very differnet style of game, but the outcomes are the same.

        Our D is only our D if they aren’t in a lot of trouble due to the offense/ST messing up. When they do, they allowed 10 points off of 2 TO’s in the Title game, and they didn’t reply in kind against the Giants after they got the ball in good field position. They held them to a FG a few times and a TD twice. Nothing to write home about.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Again DS, I never said I want another QB so why do yo keep bringing others up?

        You are well known for your take that turnovers decide the outcome more often than not, so the fact they lost games in which they lost the TO margin should come as no surprise to you.

        Smith is average, but that’s ok. He’s our average QB. Hopefully he can keep being average and take them to the Super Bowl just like other average QB’s of years past such as Trent Dilfer, Kerry Collins, Brad Johnson, etc.

      • Remote-Control says:

        I am holding to that bet. Beginning next year if AS is the starting QB I’m gone. Grant can have his blog filled up by the entire band of Village people that pine for AS.
        But I promise you I will be gone.

        You mean people who want to woo Alex, right?

      • DS94everXev says:

        I bring up others because you can’t possibly make any comparisons or decide what average is unless you have a point of comparison. Average requires an idea of what good/bad are. Can’t have that unless you compare.

        In this case I chose PM for the following reasons
        1. This blog is obsessed with him
        2. He plays a very differnt type of game than AS
        3. He’s thrown for lots of Int’s this year. And the point I was making that our D isn’t our D unless our offense (in large part on AS) doesn’t turn it over. When we do, our defense looks quite average in their own right.

        The system we are using has gotten us the best record in the NFL since it was implemented. That system completely falls apart if the QB isn’t doing his job. And if were simple to avoid TO’s, there would be a lot fewer of them in the NFL. Average players can do simple things. If not, they are below average. If they do things that are above average, they are above average.

        PS Those other average QB’s you listed, how many of them were close to a 18-5 record (regular season totals)? Most of those teams weren’t that great record wise. Dilfer had a bad record that year. B. Johnson had a good record. But the following year, the Bucs went 7-9. And they did in large part due to Gruden thinking he knows better than the guy who built up the team, and he deactivated B. Johnson. Who may not have been anything above average for another team, but there, he was a winner. And you don’t get rid of winners.

        The Ravens failed horribly after they got rid of Dilfer. They Bucs never won a playoff game again under Gruden. Collins lasted a long time in the NFL despite him being a total racist jerk. So he must have had some talent there. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. It is in fact often dead.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        DS,

        All this begs the question, What is wrong with being average? Isn’t that better than below average, or worse yet, a failure?

        As for the QB’s I listed, who cares what their regular season records were? 2 of the 3 won the Super Bowl. Hopefully our average QB can join them this year.

        And I don’t get why you bring up there record without them. I have not once in this thread stated I don’t want Smith as the QB right now.

      • rocket says:

        Bay,

        It’s understood how you feel about Smith. However the bet you want to make doesn’t make any sense. Everybody knows how this team is programmed to play offense. You are stating Smith won’t get to 190 yards like it’s some measurement of failure, yet that is how this system operates. If they are playing the way they want to, Smith is throwing 20-25 passes max. and they are running it 30-35 times. Smith isn’t hitting 200 very often with that amount of attempts.

        This is not a team that will light up the passing numbers Bay. The gameplan for a Harbaugh offense is to run the ball, throw playaction and wear the defense down. The times they get away from that, they struggle; not just because of Alex Smith, but because it’s not what their identity is going back to when Harbaugh was hired. It’s a foreign concept to these guys when they go pass crazy. The Oline doesn’t like it and the flow of the game changes dramatically.

        If we could all accept what the motivation is behind this Coaching staff the arguments over Smith would be much clearer…or maybe not.

    • ribico says:

      I could give a flying-f about your idiotic obsession with passing yards, bay. straight up – win or lose, I say they win. deal?

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Go away vermin, I don’t bet against my team. Just the weak wanna be place holders on my team.

      • FDM says:

        Bwak, bwak, bwak, bayarea, 12 egss over easy, now!

      • ribico says:

        Unless you are a lying liar, it won’t be your team for much longer. So go ahead and make the bet.

      • DS94everXev says:

        bay chooses to hide away when he’s met with a real challenge.

        Shoking to nobody.

        Average is 8-8. Below average is 7-9 or worse. Above average is 9-7 or better. Come on man! If the QB is the most important position on the team, that means his play determines the record more so than any other position. Which means average QB’s have avereage records that season, right?

        Unless you wish to dismiss the notion. And say it is a team game and the best teams have the best records.

        I don’t care which one you choose. Just stick to it.

      • Neal says:

        BS,

        Your such a dummy, we all know that if it was not for AS, we would be 0-7, how deep is your love for AS.

      • DS94everXev says:

        wuss, wuss, wuss, wuss, wuss

        Come on Neal! Be a man here even if you are a lousy one off the blog.

      • Neal says:

        DS,
        Are you preparing for the day which is soon, when AS is no longer on the team? Get ready, be prepared, it is going to happen sooner thanks later. Will you be ok, will you be on suicide watch, should we have a medic near by for your welfare.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Wuss reply.

        Yes or no to the deal Neal/bay?

        We all win no matter what.

      • FDM says:

        Come on Neal, man up, put your disbelief in Alex on the table once and for all. You/23welcher talk alot, why not man up? Show some balls?

      • Neal says:

        BS, your such a dummy, the team is not average, just your boyfriend. The team other than AS is very good, that is why we have above average record. If the rest of the team was as bad as your boyfriend we would probably be 2 and 5. The football for dummies , you can take out at the local library since you are on state funds.

      • ribico says:

        >>Are you preparing for the day which is soon, when AS is no longer on the team?

        Neal, you aren’t new here. The “smithers” are fine with whatever direction the team takes. It’s the haters who crying like newborns and vowing to leave the team behind, give up on the 49ers forever, throw hissy fits if they happen to keep Smith.

        So make sure you give the correct adress to those medics. Your own perhaps?

      • Neal says:

        Kind of lame when the 5 or 6 Smithers call us the rest of us haters, don’t hate AS, he would probably make a nice neighbor, probably a good husband and a father, great guy all around, just don’t want him to be the QB of the Niners, if that calls me a hater so be it. Keep drinking the Kool -aid.

      • Axel Foley says:

        Whose career did he kill neal?

      • Neal says:

        Axel, I already responed to your question on AS being a Career killer, on the other thread

      • Axel Foley says:

        So you are saying he killed Mike Nolan’s career and Singletary’s as well? Just to be clear, Alex Smith was the reason both those coaches got fired?

      • Neal says:

        Nope you didnot read the thread, Nolan and the Rev both are horrific.

      • Axel Foley says:

        Neal you said “AS is a career killer” and then said both Nolan and Sing were horrific, so my question again whose career did Alex kill or are you saying he is going to kill Romans?

      • Neal says:

        Yes, Roman won’t get the head coaching job he wants in the NFL with a limited QB. He can call a great play book, it won’t matter. At best you can say AS is inconsistent, 3 great games and 3 poor ones and one below average one. The offense is still the weak link of the team and AS is the weakest link. I also don’t think the Niners will win a Super Bowl with AS at the helm, which will stall Jim Harbaugh accomplishments. Now if I am wrong and I hope I am,and if they do win a Super Bowl with all of AS defiencies , then he will get the head coaching job he wants. Also if AS wins a Super bowl, got to be recognized as one of the greatest accomplishments of all time.

      • Neal says:

        I meant JH wins a Super Bowl with AS , got to be one of the most greatest accomplishments of all time

      • Axel Foley says:

        That’s a good explanation Neal, I hope you are wrong but good explanation.

    • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

      FDM= Freaking Diminishing Memory,

      Internet threats are your game. Knocking teeth clean. You are a joke. You’re a liar and you’re in denial. you got issues. That Freaking Dumb Memory!!!

    • Remote-Control says:

      You have to be kidding – the Smithers are as cowardly as their hero. I tried to get a guyto bet his LIFE…he wasn’t taking. Coward.

      If you’re not willing to bet your LIFE on your hero, you’re not really a fan. BS, Claude, Rib, FDM, One, etc, none of them have enough courage to truly support their man…

      I’d be willing to bet most of the Smith supporters are also Romney supporters.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Remote

        I can’t wait till your batteries run dry. I hope you bought the cheap Dollar Store brand.

      • ribico says:

        >>I’d be willing to bet most of the Smith supporters are also Romney supporters.

        I’d take that bet.

      • Axel Foley says:

        Lots of bets thrown around here but never any takers. What is the story with this 23 welcher guy?

      • ribico says:

        Axel, it started when welch offered a 100 bucks to anybody who could find evidence of Vernon Davis breaking a tackle. claude promptly did, welch reneged and that was his first welch. Then welcher bet someone that if Alex was the starter this year, he’d never post on this board again. A zillion and one idiotic posts later, you see how that welch went down. that he continually offers up wagers is a humorous running gag here.

        we’ll see if bay follows suit on his vow to not only leave the board but renounce his 49ers fandom when they keep Alex next season.

        And these are the jokers who say “smithers” are obsessed with one guy.

      • 23jordan/I told you so. says:

        Ribico,

        Nice description little red head step child. You aren’t even close. Axel, you need not know. You seem to be having enough trouble following and defending Alex Smith. See how the little red head Ribico struggled with it. Claude has never proven me wrong about anything. He’s a clown the tries to play immortal on this blog when in essence, he’s been bullied just as much as the rest of the Smithers. Ribico included. Poor kids.

      • Axel Foley says:

        23jordan/I told you so, did you or did you not welch on those two bets?

      • Neal says:

        Remote,

        All of the Smithers are inside the tea party.

  5. rayoflight says:

    STOP referring to the Buffalo game — that was an anamoly and Buffalo is a TERRIBLE team, esp. defensively. Against a good defense, Alex is not going to have receivers open by 15 yards, as he did against the Bills.

    This team is winning in spite of the quarterback position. Alex has actually regressed, significantly, from last year.

    Harbaugh did an AMAZING job last year of setting up the offense to make Alex successful. It involved a lot of motion and shifting to get guys wide open for “splash” plays, meaning Alex was succeeding via the scheme.

    Guess what? Teams are taking those away. They are taking the wheel route, they have taken away Vernon in the seam. They are defending only the short to midrange passing game because they know Alex cannot beat them deep.

    For Alex to be successful now, he needs to make it on his own merit and skill: This means he has to be throw guys open just like Brady, Brees, and the Mannings have to. He has to fit the ball accurately into tight windows. He needs to take shots down the field, consistently, when has 1 on 1 coverage.

    And he can’t do any of these things. He can’t. Hasn’t done it in his 7 years in the NFL guys. And Harbaugh knows it. That is why Jim tried to get Peyton in the offseason.

    Is Kaep ready to do these things? I do not know. But if they are going to dumb down the quarterback position as they are doing right now, why not put Kaep in? Kaep can do a single read progression, which is all Alex is doing right now. Kaep is a MUCH better athlete than Alex. Kaep has a much better arm than Alex. Considering how inaccurate we know Alex to be, can Kaep be any worse?

    Alex Smith was an incompetent NFL quarterback a week ago against Seattle. He was incompetent against the NY Giants. He was awful against Minnesota, and he was mediocre, at best, against the NY Jets.

    When your quarterback is regressing in his 7th year in the league, not a good sign folks.

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      They’re an NFL professional team. TBrady plays them twice a year and pads his stats nicely!

    • undercenter says:

      Ray – if Kap was better then Alex he would be starting, so as bad as you think Alex is, indicates that Kap sucks big time. I dont believe Kap sucks big time but he cant beat out Alex so what does that tell you? 1. Alex isnt as bad as some say or 2. The coaches dont know what they are talking choosing Alex over Kap.

      • DS94everXev says:

        underceter

        Shhhhhh!!!!

        Don’t you realize that you are explaining that to the haters?

      • bayareafanatic says:

        Undercenter,
        not necessarily. If halfway through the season Harbaugh figured out that Smith had hit a ceiling, but they were still figuring out ways to win, you could not make the switch at that time.
        Unless he begins losing games, he have to ride the season out with him.

    • 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! says:

      Rayoflight,

      They don’t want the truth. These people up here( most of them) just want to make the playoffs. They won’t admit that Alex Smith is the weak link. They won’t admit that Smith is not a quality NFL caliber QB. They won’t sSmith’s that 8 years of excuses are not going to change the fact that Alex Smith is not very good at all. They aren’t willing to admit that he’s a system fit for JHs offense and that JH is a genius for masking Smiths weaknesses and getting the maximum out if Smiths game. They are not willing to accept the fact that we’ve gone as far as we can go with Smith. Last year was max. They fail to realize that no team in this league is afraid of Alex Smith. They fail to realize that JH wanted to replace Smith with manning last year. They think he was really evaluating! Lol. They will never give up on Smith until JH does. They don’t believe he did last year when he went after Manning. Manning killed JH’s master plan. He got stuck with his plan B. Smith would’ve been the Niners backup this year and Kap would’ve been #3. Alex would’ve taken a pay cut and stayed here because he had nowhere to go. They have been brainwashed.

  6. Jeff zazueta says:

    So in other words what cossell is saying what anyone who’s ever watched football is saying………. Alex smith sucks!!

  7. rayoflight says:

    And stop defending Alex people. If you ACTUALLY think this team is going to advance in the playoffs WITHOUT A QUARTERBACK, running Gore 50 times a game…then you have zero, and I mean zero, football intelligence.

    Alex better light it up against Arizona. Harbaugh likes to run, yes, but he wants an explosive offense. He had it at Stanford with Luck. BTW: Luck, a rookie, is better than Alex right now. He was better than Alex last year.

    Audibling from one run play to another is not great quarterbacking. That’s all Alex is giving at this point. Run audibles.

    Pretty pathetic.

    • DS94everXev says:

      Good thing you’re not named “rayoflight” because there is lot of darkness in you.

      Get over yourself. Best record in the NFL in the past 2 years. Why don’t you look at it like that instead? It doesn’t make you any more right or wrong, and you’d be a lot happeir person/fan if you did.

      Where is the downside in it? In being happy? Only one I can thnk of is you admitting you were wrong. Seems like a very good deal to me.

      • TheEmpireStrikes says:

        Give it a rest with the “best record in the NFL in the past 2 years” garbage. They’ve won the most games because of the defense. Period. Without the epic defensive performance, they would have been 8-8 at best because the offense, namely the passing offense, can NOT carry the team to a win.

      • Ed from AZ says:

        Yup you should start being happy about the wins, cuz there’s no way Harbaugh & Co. are gonna change the TEAM philosophy just cuz some people on this blog don’t agree with the current one.

      • FDM says:

        If structured offense, great defense and special teams, combined with great coaching that results in winning is not your thing, NFL.com has a list of 31 other teams that you can pick from. Hurry now before the season is over!

      • DS94everXev says:

        Vader will hunt you down.

        And I don’t think anybody can carry the Niners OL even. So, your point is…..

        It’s a team sport, sport. Learn it or find a new place to whine.

    • Spaceborn says:

      Gore is averaging 15 carries a game. How did you come up with 50? Seems if you are attacking other fans football knowledge, you would at least use some facts that would support your own knowledge.

      • DS94everXev says:

        spaceborn

        That is what you get for reading that dribble. You didn’t think he’d have anything to offer after the first paragraph of both his posts above do you?

      • Spaceborn says:

        LOL, yeah, DS9, I should have known better!

      • Spaceborn says:

        DS9, just started the 2nd season of Lexx. Man, I love Rutger Hauer. One of my favorite episodes so far!

      • DS94everXev says:

        Season 2 was the first one I saw. Lots of fun episodes in Season 2. Love Grows, where Xev gets male…parts and Stan…well I won’t go any further. Partially because I can’t on this blog.

        “Brigadoom” near the very end of the season is my favorite of season 2. That was before Buffy had her musical episode, which at the time was hailed as the first.

    • jakemall says:

      So what you’re saying is that last year doesn’t count?

  8. AES says:

    Code Blue, Code Blue!
    Attention AS damage control team, Cosell is here, Cosell is here!
    (lol).

  9. Sputnik says:

    Jim Harbaugh said last year that Alex’s friends and family do read and hear the things said about Alex , so I have no doubt that some of those that post on this blog are connect to Alex

    • 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! says:

      Sputnik,

      Hofer is a relative if Smiths for sure. Ceaddean is avrelative of Dmiths for sure. This guy defends Alex on every single blog in the Bay Area. He’s definitely related to Smith. Called him by his full name. Might be his brother. I don’t know but he’s definitely related to him.

  10. I.P. Daily says:

    I wonder how many of you with multiple posts have jobs? And I wonder how many of you that are filled with such vitriol have successful relationships? I come here and often think, did the Snap-On guy just leave?

  11. Sputnik says:

    What’s wrong with I said ? Fact Jim did say that

  12. Sputnik says:

    Oops what

  13. Sputnik says:

    @ I.P.Daily
    You looking for a Date !!! Lol

  14. Chris says:

    Cosell is just stating the obvious but he like everybody else is very careful of alex and his lunatic fringe fans delicate sensibilities. Here is what will happen against AZ and it will be similar to Seattle. Niners will run the ball well at some point in the game probably late (their defense will be pumped initially playing at home after back to back losses), alex will play pathetic miss open wr’s (but wrs will get the blame per usual) and have his usual line of 145 yds o tds o ints but our defense will render their offense useless and they probably score 6-10 pts and we will score 13-16 points. If we blow them out it will be due to our defense getting turn overs and special teams giving alex position inside the teams 20 yd line and akers ending up kicking multiple fgs because to alex touchdowns are so risky and scary. Then after the game even though alex hurt the team per usual the company line as always will be “hey we got the win” even though knowledgeable fans know that in the playoffs against a good team where everything isn’t handed to little alex on a silver platter (because the other team is a top team too) he will fail (like nfc championship) even though he will get great field position and great defensive play and we will just waste another superbowl window with alex 3 and out smith. I bet Akili Smith and Tim Couch wish the niners drafted them, talk about job security no matter the employees performance lol.

    • 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! says:

      Chris,

      You’re a hater, but so am I! Let the Smithers tell it! Lol well said.

      • Chris says:

        No they are the haters, the will rip our entire team of great players to defend the weak link that’s been hurting the team and gotten more chances than any under performing athlete in the history of professional sports. I guess I do hate that my team has such a terrible qb but I’m one of those weird fans that actually want my team to win.

  15. Hoferfan67 says:

    Interesting read from today’s MSando live blog:

    Sando:
    “Alex Smith ranks second in NFL passer rating on passes traveling at least 15 yards past the line of scrimmage, according to Elias Sports Bureau. He has completed 16 of 29 such passes for 445 yards with three touchdowns, one interception and a 120.3 NFL passer rating. Now, he has missed a couple recently. That could have something to do with his finger, the opposing defenses, whatever. Or it could just be random.”

    • Houston 9er says:

      That is an interesting stat considering the 9ers are ranked 30th in the league in passes over 20 yards with only 13 on the year. That stat doesn’t seem to reconcile with the stat Sando posted. I suppose it could be that the 9ers try much fewer passes over 15 yards than other teams or it could be that the 9ers aren’t getting any YAC on the 15-20 yard passes.

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        Houston,
        Remember that Kap threw for 2 of those I think.

      • AngusinCanada says:

        Passes travelling 15 yards past the line of scrimmage isn’t the same as a 15 yard screen pass, for example. Mike Sando’s stats don’t take into consideration YAC. Mike Sando’s stats seem to suggest that Smith’s performance on the longer throws is quite good. I admit, I’m a bit surprised at how good though…

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        He was referring *only* to AS stats not the use of the QB shuffle. Additionally, the 9ers have thrown 75-80 *less times* than the top passers in the league but at 7.5 yds per attempt, they are top 8. Facts for the blamers to chew on…

  16. AES says:

    Good job DS. It’s good to see you recognize who our #1 receiver is AGAIN! (lol).
    BTW, whenever AS puts the ball in MC’ area he’s been money. Would you agree?

  17. Sputnik says:

    @ 23/Jordan
    You are correct 100 %

    • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

      Sputnik,

      We called Hofer out, ut he won’t admit his relationship. However, I know he is. Ceadderman is, no question about it. That guy is straight up Smith! lol

  18. jakemall says:

    Why are so many people worried about how many Yards Alex throws for? It means nothing. YPA or passing rating are far more indicitave of a QB’s performance. Once you’re up, you don’t need to pass…unless you don’t have a run game. Which is why some QBs have amazing stats.

    Here’s some fun facts: Of the 27 QBs with more yards than Alex…16 of them had losing records…that means more of them are on losing teams and probably having to throw those yards in an attempt to come back…and they’re still losers.

    Of the top 5 yard gaining QBs in the NFL 3 of them had losing records. 2 good teams…that’s it.

    So tell me again why yards passing matter?

    • AngusinCanada says:

      The earth is flat, you heretic! Enough with your fact based evidence! Alex sucks! He doesn’t throw for 300 yards on a weekly basis!

      • Remote-Control says:

        I’m not concerned with yards, I’m concerned with touchdowns, especially in the red zone. Alex is an abject failure in the red zone. He deserves to be waived before the next practice.

        If Harbaugh and Baalke refuse to get rid of him after the season, they should be fired.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        Two guys who turned around a franchise after nearly a decade of futility and you want them fired because they support a QB you hate? I’d say what you are, but your posts do that by themselves.

    • DS94everXev says:

      Because JM threw for over 300 yards a game on average.

      http://www.nfl.com/player/joemontana/2502166/careerstats

      Ok. So he actually threw for a career average of 211. But in the memory of many here, he never threw an Inc, Int pass. He won every Super Bowl every year and he threw for over 300+ as well in every game.

      If AS starts to throw for more yards, they won’t care about yards thrown anymore. They’ll find something else to care about. Trust me.

  19. Houston 9er says:

    It’s a fairly devastating indictment of an NFL QB to say he’s a 1 read QB. Even at the High School level, most QB’s go through a progression that is 2 reads and then a dumpoff or a run. On many of the spread offenses being run in Texas, High School QB’s are going thru multiple reads and could possibly throw to 4 different receivers. To say an NFL QB only looks to 1 receiver before checking down to the outlet is a subtle but huge slam on that QB.

    • Sean in Canada says:

      Considering the source of the comment, it should be taken with a grain of salt.

    • Nick says:

      Houston,

      That’s spot on. I think the coaching staff is limiting AS to first read and dump off mode to avoid mistakes and turnovers. They understand that AS panics, gets jittery, and makes bad decisions if he gets to 2nd and 3rd reads.

    • AngusinCanada says:

      Houston, you said it, even high school qb’s are 2 read qb’s. So do you honestly believe an 8 year NFL pro is a 1 read qb? Really?

      • Houston 9er says:

        Angus, are you really saying you know more than a man with over 30 years experience breaking down coaches film of every NFL game every weekend. As an analysit Cosell is widely considered the most knowledgeable person in the business. Do you think he’s lieing because of some personal vendetta against Alex Smith? I don’t know if he’s right or wrong but I do think he’s calling it as he sees it. Smith may be trying to run through a progression that includes multiple receivers but the reality is he’s checking down very quickly after his 1st option is covered.

  20. Adam707 says:

    Cosell is pretty spot on in terms of the “late in the down” comment. Whether you are an Alex supporter or Haters is obvious Alex doesnt excel in making readable and going throgh progressions. He is a drop and release to first read guy. When the first read is gone he often panics. He rarely goes through his progression and hits the 3rd or 4th read. That’s just the type of QB he is. There are very few QBs in the league that go through 3-4 reads in a play (Brady, Brees, rodgers, the mannings). No need for people to hate Cosell for pointing put am obvious fact.

  21. Remote-Control says:

    Is there a reason so many of you seem to want to woo Alex? Goes waay beyond football. It’s very obvious there are MANY man crushes amongst the assembled, and given the way he plays like a Pop-Warner QB, I have to wonder why?

    Who are so many of you in love with Alex?

    • DS94everXev says:

      “Is there a reason so many of you seem to want to woo Alex?”

      He’s not as ugly or stupid, or bad, or mean as you are.

      Those 4 reasons good enough?

      If not, try this one. He is our starting QB with an 18-5 record since 2011.

      • Remote-Control says:

        He won’t be the starting QB much longer. I look forward to the opportunity to point and laugh at you Smithers.

        Oh wait, I do that already. Carry on with your…ahem…INTIMATE fantasies.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        This coming from something with no proof of anything. When it comes down to it, you’re just plain dull Remote.

    • MidWestNiner says:

      Nowhere near in love with him Remote. I prefer Midwest women, so Smith’s not exactly my type. Why don’t you try backing up your biased hate comments with some actual proof for a change?

      • DS94everXev says:

        MWN

        Makes you wonder why the haters are so obsessed with Alex and love/woo/etc.

        What are they thinking when they watch him and talk about him?

      • MidWestNiner says:

        NO DS! WE ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT TOUCHING THAT!!!

      • Remote-Control says:

        In the four games Smith has played poorly in (Vikings, Jets, Giants, Seahawks), Smith has achieved his ceiling of:

        69 of 109 (63 percent, not bad)
        544 yards (a WHOPPING 4.9 YPA)
        two touchdowns
        ***FIVE*** Interceptions
        for a QBR of…(fanfare, please!!!) ***62.6***

        Which pretty much mirror his career numbers.

        Now in two of these games, the rest of the team was able to overcome Smith’s sewer-level play with defense, special teams and the running game and produce a win.

        However, with games against New England, a rapidly-improving New Orleans, Seattle (again), the Redskins (where RGIII will give Alex a lesson on how to be an interesting QB), another against the Cards and two against the Rams, I think we might see oh, one more 200-yard game out of Alex. Maybe even a scintillating TWO, 200-yard games, and another year of no Super Bowl.

        It KILLS me we’re still a QB away from the Super Bowl after all this time.

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        BSLicious254736,

        You’rre an extremely weird individual. we would prefer to keep the homosexual remarks off off of the blog. You are strange!

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        Remote,

        Its called regressing. Smith is about to crash and burn right before our very eyes. These people have not looked at that schedule. They think our defense will continue to hold teams to 10 points and we’ll run for 300 yards and 3 touchdowns and alex just has to hand it off and not turn it over. They dont get it.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        In the Jets game, the Niners ( including) Smith) ran over the Jets for 245 yards, as per the gameplan. The Jets CB covering Manningham also got away with some interference.
        In the Seattle game, the team focused on the power run and checkdowns. Granted Smith didn’t play his best, but the Niners’ gameplan and what the Seattle defense gave them played a role as well.
        As for the matchups against the Vikings and Giants, those were examples of total team failure at every facet.
        You provided proof of your hate to a point. But you fail to mention that other QBs have struggled against some of those teams. And you fail to mention that the gameplan may have played a role in those games as well.
        Does Smith need to improve? Absolutely. But you’ve failed to prove one thing Remote, and that is that Smith is a coward. There is zero evidence of this and coincidentally ruins any credibility you have.

      • MidWestNiner says:

        I trust Harbaugh’s plan23. You?

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        MID,

        No, I don’t trust the plan. But I don’t have to. I’m not the coach. I think that Kap needs to continue to get time. He needs to get a series instead of a play here and there. we see that Smith won’t make the tough throws. Let’s see if Kap can make them.

      • rocket says:

        Remote control,

        Sigh…he threw 3 ints in one game. It was a terrible game, they lost, he sucked, end of story. Try and be remotely honest (see what I did there?)

        You picked out 4 games where his numbers weren’t as good eschewing the fact that they didn’t throw hardly at all the second half of the Jet game because they were blowing them out, and they played one of the best defenses in the league in Seattle who have shut down a number of good QB’s this season. They lost to the Vikes, but Smith completed 69% of his passes. Funny how you didn’t mention that?

        The truth is, you bunched these games together because if you single out the Giant game, you see a very different set of numbers: 9TD’s 2Int’s and a QBR over a 100 in the 6 other games combined. Do you see how numbers can be manipulated the other way too?

        However, with games against New England, a rapidly-improving New Orleans, Seattle (again), the Redskins (where RGIII will give Alex a lesson on how to be an interesting QB), another against the Cards and two against the Rams, I think we might see oh, one more 200-yard game out of Alex. Maybe even a scintillating TWO, 200-yard games, and another year of no Super Bowl.

        Let’s see, the Pats have a poor defense, as do the Saints, unlike the Seahawks who they just beat. So I’m guessing the offense will probably perform a little better against a bad defense than they would a bad one…but that’s just me. They don’t play the Skins this season but you keep watching out for that one on your calender. Predicting no Super Bowl really hurts coming from a guy who doesn’t even know who is on the schedule.

        It KILLS me we’re still a QB away from the Super Bowl after all this time.

        It kills me that you found this message board. If I didn’t know better I’d say you were Jordan’s alter ego.

      • rocket says:

        *the offense will probably perform a little better against a bad defense than they would a good one

      • DS94everXev says:

        Come on 23!

        Join in with bay and Neal, who have also wussed out because they are wusses. Make a promise that you’ll never come back here under any name if the Niners with AS beat AZ.

        You’re so sure of AS failing, where is the risk?

        Wuss.

      • 23jordan/ Smith's days are numbered!! says:

        BS,

        Is that you??

      • DS94everXev says:

        Wuss!

        What a shock. 23/Neal/Bay all talk big and tough, but are in fact all a bunch of wusses.

        I think they are all the same person. No way can there be 3 tough talking guys that wuss out so readily. No way! Right?

      • JPN001 says:

        Remote-Control,

        I hope the team is not focusing too much on RGIII and the Redskins. I would prefer they focus on teams that are actually on their 2012 schedule. The Redskins are not on the 2012 schedule.

  22. 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! says:

    Famous Boxing Trainer Emanuel Stewart dead. He was one of the best and his work on HBO and pay per view was very fair and insightful. May he rest in peace!

    Go Giants!

  23. Foamingatdamouth says:

    It’s obvious that Alex Smith has his limitations in regards to not going through his progressions & being weak at improvising, but to his & the coaching staffs credit, he’s asked to play within himself. This means check downs & taking sacks instead of forcing plays that result in turnovers. With the teams defense, run game & special teams, it’s a good recipe to win. The coaching staff needs to mix in more screen passes & to motion VD more to get more production out of the current QB.

    Barring injury or an unlikely complete meltdown, Alex is the guy. However, unless he wins the SB this year, he won’t be starting next year. Kaep is being ideally groomed to take over next year. He’s surrounded by talent, sitting for a year or 2, getting a few reps, & learning the same system under an offense oriented coach. I hope Smith succeeds because that means that SF will be celebrating 2 championships, but if not, I’ll be satisfied knowing that the team will be better next year, as it addresses it’s last weak link.

  24. Jakemall says:

    @ Bay

    I’m sorry you think I’m coming at you. Actually, I was trying to come at the way you’re thinking. Yards do not equal a good QB.

    I believe I mentioned it earlier..of the 27 QBs that have more yards than Alex, a majority of them are on losing teams. Also a majority of them have worse passing ratings than Alex.

    To your point re: checking down to the HBs. If you look at Alex’s long passes and more importantly his YPA, it would be pretty clear to most people that he is not checking down for the short pass as seems to be your perception. FYI- Gore has 15 receptions for the year..ranking him 21st in that category. SF ranks 24th in Passing Completions…which means that Gore is not getting an unbalanced number of passes thrown his way for the number attempts.

    So much for the check down theory for dismissing his rating….

    • 23jordan/I told you so. says:

      You sound like you’re saying that you can only check down to a running back. If you believe that, then you don’t watch 49er football. Alex Smith is a CHECKDOWN king and he does not just check down to frank Gore. He actually Checks down to his wide outs and tight ends. He will not hesitate to throw Crabtree a 4 yard
      Check down instead of throwing Moss a 15 yard slant.