The 49ers’ record is 5-2, but their offense still isn’t that good – it has scored 13-or-fewer points in three of their first seven games.
Which brings me to the question of the day: Who is offensive coordinator Greg Roman, and what is his coaching history?
Here it is, as provided by the 49ers media guide.
2009-10: Tight Ends/Offensive Tackles/Running Game Coordinator, Stanford. More from the 49ers media guide: “Roman’s sophisticated blocking schemes and knowledge of the running game were major factors in the Cardinal amassing a single-seasons record of 2,837 yards on the ground in 2009.”
2006-07: Assistant Offensive Line, Baltimore Ravens. More from the 49ers media guide: “He helped the Ravens improve to 17th in the NFL in total offense and 2nd in fewest sacks allowed.”
2004-05: Quarterbacks, Houston Texans. More from the 49ers media guide: “David Carr had his best season under Roman in 2004 when he passed for 3,531 yards and an 83.1 quarterback rating.”
2002-03: Tight Ends, Houston Texans. More from the 49ers media guide: “Roman tutored Billy Miller, who led the Texans with 91 receptions over two seasons.”
2001: Assistant Offensive Line, Carolina Panthers
1999-00: Offensive Assistant: Carolina Panthers
1997-98: Offensive Quality Control, Carolina Panthers
I would like to point out that, while Roman has had valuable experience in the passing game, before joining the 49ers his pedigree mainly was the running game. This bears out in his performance on the 49ers. They have a great running attack and an average to below-average passing attack.
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Great observation Grant. I have always believed that Roman designs the running game play calls and Geep/Jim the passing play calls
I believe at stanford, David shaw called the pass plays and greg the running plays
Although you will never get Jim to admit to any of this
Admit to what exactly?
JH used more than one play caller at Stanford. Not during just practice but on Saturday – game day.
Roman handled the passing game, David Shaw called third-down plays (longer passing) and Tim Drevno made the run calls. With JH coordinating and approving them all.
This isn’t some secret. There have been published reports on these game-calling relationships since his days on the Farm.
The answer is Alex Smith’s latest victim.
+1
Here’s the deal… the Giants will take your lunch money, then pull your bottom lip over your head and donkey punch you til you ask for mercy. RG3 stands tall to that beating, Alex… not at all. If Niners play the Blue Bullies again we can’t hope to win unless Kaepernick is starting. Alex doesn’t have “it.”
You’re just gonna keep looking dumb on every post huh?
“They have a great running attack and an average to below-average passing attack.”
They also have a great running back and an average QB. You are missing the mark badly with all this Roman stuff. He is not the problem with the passing game.
Roman certainly appears to be the primary 2012 excuse.
Don’t forget to sprinkle in some CK7 and of course there’s always last years target M.Crabtree to fall back on for the re-mix (lol).
Lol, you beat me to it. Blaming Roman for the offenses passing performance is ridiculous. When Smith has a good game, Roman is a genius. When Smith struggles, Roman isn’t doing a good job. Aaron Rodgers talked about his uneven performance this year: “I’ve missed some throws that I’m accustomed to hitting. I just haven’t played the way, the standard I’ve set. My solemn promise is that I’m going to work every day to get better. I’m going to clean up some of the things I’m not doing as well as I could. The proof is in the pudding, and right now I’m no getting it done.” He then followed that up by shredding the undefeated Houston Texans on 24-37 passing for 338 yards with 6 TD’s and 0 INT’s. He admitted to his subpar play and fixed it. That’s what NFL QB’s are supposed to do. That is why they get paid millions of dollars.
I don’t believe the premise here is to solely blame GR. I question the playcalls or the timeliness of the calls especially in the RZ. By no means is the pass offense all on him. AS has to play much better.
Hofer its always nice to read your comments! You are fair and call it as you see it! Now all the fingers are pointing to GR! GR has made some crazy calls and should be responsible for our production however Alex can play much better than the past two games as well! Hopefully they will improve as we advance into the season. GO NINERS
Thursday, the last three possessions of the first half were characterized by passes in the 15-25 yard range, which were misses. The Niners went three-and-out on each of those possessions. There was not enough Gore-up-the-middle. Alex was responsible for missing the passes. Roman (we think) was responsible for calling the plays.
The Niners, including Alex and Greg, corrected these issues in the second half. Good on them. Good on us for recognizing football is a team sport and what may appear to be a failing by one person is more often correctly attributed to a series of problems that resulted in the failure.
It’s not just the Gore or any of the other backs. It’s the line. The 49ers have a tailor-made offensive line to dominate on the ground. Why not take advantage of your obvious comparative strengths?
I agree that our offense still isn’t that good. Especially with the potential it has. Still, it’s all about winning.
All of us “arm-chair coaches” have more than enough solutions. Like using a “no-huddle” against the Giants.
I really want the passing game to open up more BUT in the final analysis I’d rather have victories instead of passing stats.
BTW, the screen pass vs. Seattle was beautiful and hopefully Roman will call more of them.
Wally,
That early screen was a nice call bro.
The screen worked and he never went back to it…
Yes I would like to see the screen and the dump offs to the back and even a quick slot Wideout more often! Alex was perfect with the screen pass.
Alex Smith is the problem, JH has done his best but AS has hit his ceiling, you can’t make a lobster out of chopped liver.
Fire Greg Roman. Alex Smith has killed another Coach or coordinator. And the list goes on and on. Harbaugh, you’re next on the Coach killers list. You’d better make a move Harbaugh!
Joe Flacco 7-20 50 yds 2 ints. I wonder how many Ravens fans are calling for Tyrod Taylor!
This is Flacco’s make or break season in Baltimore. The Ravens didn’t extend his contract. If he continues to be inconsistent he’ll be elsewhere next year.
The Ravens aren’t giving Flacco 7 years of excuses. They expect him to step up or get out of town.
If they don’t offer him a new contract, which I guarantee you they will with how close they were this offseason, I can assure you it won’t be based on one bad performance against a great defense.
What do you all want from Roman, the guy came out in the last game against the Seahawks and called to downfield passes to Kyle Williams and they were both overthrown. He went with an exclusive pass attack against the Giants and nothing materialized. It is what it is… the 9ers do not have a high quality (knowledgable, strong arm, and accurate) Quarterback on their roster. A high dependence on the running game, special teams (Akers & Lee) conservative play calling (shot plays to Davis and Crabtree) is the 9ers only formula for success. They can not and will no longer put the ball in the Q.B.’s hand and say lead us to victory. Whether it be Kaepernick, Tolzien, or Smith.
The only people that criticize Roman are the ones that expect him to mask all of Smith’s deficiencies. The perfect example is the INT on Thursday. Moss is wide open for half the length of the endzone, Frank Gore is pointing for Smith to throw it to Moss and Smith ends up throwing a pick anyways. It’s a lack of football instincts. The guy is book smart and has the physical tools, he just doesn’t seem to have that intangible play making quality.
Roman has to take some of the blame BigP. It’s his job to know the strengths and weaknesses of his players and plan appropriately.
Calling pass heavy games with this team is inexcusable. This QB is very efficient when he is limited and carefully managed. Asking Alex to toss it all over the yard is a recipe for disaster.
Interesting. I thought there was a purpose behind upgrading the receiving corps and a relevancy to having a second year in the same offense. Isn’t Smith a “master” of this offense?
Agree with you msc, and given what he has to work with he has done a great job with the exception of a few games.
My disagreement with Grant and others comes from him being called out yesterday for the perceived lack of involving Davis in the game on Thursday, and now the average/below average passing offense.
Big P says
“The guy is book smart and has the physical tools, he just doesn’t seem to have that intangible play making quality” That is a accurate comment another way to say it, is like going to same Steak house restaraunt two weeks in a row, one week the steak is tender, juicy and mouth watering, the next week the same steak ordered is dry, tasteless and it sucks.
Exactly BP!!!!!
It seems to me GR is not the only problem with the passing attack, but he certainly isn’t uncovering the solution! What has he done lately to improve play in the RZ? I’ve seen multiple runs get stuffed when passes to VD, MM and RM have been successful. Why hasn’t MC been productive in the RZ? He needs to devise plays in the RZ that are the core “go to” plays which include pass plays not just run plays.
It is his job to fix any problems on offense including upgrading the QB play if necessary. Even when he has added the wrinkle of the QB shuffle, it hasn’t been productive. I haven’t seen the explosiveness or the productivity utilizing the QB shuffle (see below). They should be focusing on core plays and utilizing matchups with their playmakers. Plenty of games left to get on track and I believe GR and the 9ers will get back on track – a balance of *timely* runs/throws. I look forward to it!
The QB Shuffle numbers:
24 total plays
13 Runs
11 passes
0 pass TDs
2 run TDs (NYJ 2nd qtr 7 yd td 3rd and 6, Bills 4th qtr 16 yd td 1st and 5)
1 Fumble
When utilized:
2 in the 1st qtr (1 pass & 1 run both against NYJ)
4 in the 2nd qtr (1 pass NYG, 1 run GB, 1 run NYJ, 1 run Bills)
5 in the 3rd qtr (1 pass Bills, 3 passes & 1 run against NYG)
13 in the 4th qtr (3 run NYJ, 2 run & 1 pass Bills, 5 passes & 1 run against NYG, 1 run Seattle)
Down when utilized:
12 -1st down
7 – 2nd down
4 – 3rd down
1 – 4th down
1st qtr totals
1 – run = 17 yds
1 – pass = INC
2nd qtr totals
3 – run = 17 yds, 7 yd td, 6 yds
1 – pass = 36 yds
3rd qtr totals
2 – run = 15 yds, -1 yd loss
3 – pass = 7 yds, INC, Sack
4th qtr totals
7 – run = 30 yds, – 2 yd loss, – 2 yd loss, 16 yds, 2 yds, 7 yds, -1 yd loss
6 – pass = 7 yds, 24 yds, 15 yds, INC, INC, -6 yd Sack
Hofer,
I hope you are having a great Sunday, although it isn’t as fun without the Niners playing. I was hoping for your take on a few things.
1. What would the teams record be with a middle of the road defense?
2. Do you believe that Smith would be able to carry the offense in that situation with adjusted play calling?
3. Is the current play calling based upon Smith’s strengths and weaknesses, or Roman and Harbaugh’s offensive philosphy?
BigP,
Good Sunday afternoon! I’ve answered your questions below…
1. Probably 3-4. Can you name a team that is leading their division to date with a middle of the road D and a good+ QB?
2. Yes I do. He did well coming back in 6 games last year and how soon we forget the Philly game (down 20-3 at half) and N.O. games in 2011.
3. It’s a combo. Someone else pointed out here that ALuck didn’t usually put up gaudy numbers at Stanford so I believe it is good part of the playcalling is philosophy. Some is AS focusing on turnovers to the point of not throwing into tight windows. He has to know when not to throw but not miss key opportunities.
Here’s a question for you BigP. CPonder, CNewton, and ADalton are all starting and were drafted ahead of CK in 2011, do you think CK should be more ready than he is currently to start at QB going into his 2nd year in the system?
Hofer,
Baltimore: #26, N.E. Patriots: #23, NY Giants #19 and Atlanta #21 are all divisional leaders that have mediocre to bad defenses. I do not feel that Smith would be able to carry the team if he had to consistently get into shoot outs. I don’t what makes you feel like he would be able to do that. As far as philosophy, I don’t buy that as much because Harbaugh and Roman wanted Manning. I see that as them wanting to improve on offense and they felt that Manning would do just that. As far as your question goes, I think it’s a different situation. Those teams were rebuilding and threw their rookie QB’s into the fire and they have responded fairly well, but not without their share of mistakes. CK might do well if he was to play, I don’t know the answer to that. I don’t promote him as the second coming, I am intrigued by his potential. They have only asked him to run the ball for the most part. I think they have a plan to develop him, and part of that is getting him some snaps. He may never be a starter, only time will tell. I am confident that Harbaugh believes they need more production from the QB position in general. If neither Smith or CK is the answer, Harbaugh will work to find it.
BigP, two of those teams you listed have perennial
all-pro elite SB QBs that 27 other teams can’t compare with to date. Atlanta hasn’t played a good defensive team yet and giving up yardage will come back to haunt them. Baltimore is the intriguing team on your list because their defense in the last 5 years has typically been stout although until today, JF has been playing at an elite level. We’ll see how the year plays out.
Regarding philosophy and the QB play, I see them having AS play out the year as the starter. If he gets back on track then he competes next year. If not, they will need to bundle some of the many picks next year to move up and draft a QB that will compete with CK.
I don’t see them making a change this season unless Smith was injured and CK played very well in his absence. I agree, I think they will (and should) ride it out and evaluate things at the end of the season.
They can’t devise plays down in the red zone. The Coach killer is afraid of tight windows and will throw picks if you rely in him to throw the ball. Ronan is limited as to what he can do because his QB is limited. I’ve told you this for the 20th time Hofer. It’s the weak link at QB!
ya the coach killer looked real afraid against the saints last year in the playoffs throwin it over the corner an under the safety. he looked even more scared this year against green bay an detroit. watch some football your makin yourself look bad
Coach killer, who? Nolan, Singletary? Those guys couldnt coach a team out of a wet paper bag. Thats funny and stupid all in one sentence.
That was 4 interceptions and 2 losses ago. Look around. Your man is on the hit seat and he knows it! Warm Kap up! Sit this bum down. He’s about to lose his Game Manager status! He’s a game mangler now!
But 23Jordan/ We Need a QB! you said all last week that Colin Kaepernick was going to play more and more cause the coaching saff was phasing Smith out and it was only a matter of time. What happened, one play and nearly decapitated? Then we didnt see him at all, not one throwing play or series and by your account, Smith was dreadful. Why didnt they replace him as you say?
Wonder what a hit seat is!
24 plays with Kaep: 2 TDs, 1 sack, 0 INT
400 plays with the Precious: 15 TDs (9 pass, 6 rush), 18 sacks, 5 INT
In a very small sample size the team is more efficient with Kaep under center.
If Alex doesn’t have the mental strength to deal with being “disrupted” in 24 out of 424 plays that’s his problem.
Msc,
Can you believe the disruption of the flow defense. Kap plays 1 snap last game and Smith cones in on the next and misses a 6-4 weapon that is wide open for 3 seconds and then throws a pass that 2 people would’ve intercepted. Hofer says Smiths flow was interrupted. Then we hear about the sore finger! So while the coaching staff are making excuses for his play due to injuries, the Smith defense team blames the offensive coordinator for not being creative enough. UN BELIEVE ABLE!!!!!
Who led the 3rd Q drive with masterful precision to win the game with his arm?
Axel,
Captain discountdoublecheckdown Smith. Those 5 yarders to gore were really precision! Takes a master to get that done. Yeah, Smith is very Elite!!! Bwahahahahahahaha!
5 yards, 8 yards, 40 yards, it moves the chains, it gets the team closer to the goaline, its called taking what the defense gives you, and as the entire country witnessed, it wins games. How can you argue that, you cant cause at the end of the evening as ugly as it looked, and it looked ugly for a variety of reasons, the bottom line is did he/49ers win the game?
Yes sir.
Clem, based on your comments, are you suggesting that the coaching staff start CK? How much would they need to mask him?
@Hofer no, I don’t think CK should start yet. I do think the coaches should continue to use him and prepare him to take over at a later date.
If CK doesn’t progress enough to take the starting job then the team needs to hit the draft in 2013. They aren’t asking CK to beat out a great QB. If he can’t even top Alex then he needs to be replaced.
Clem, I don’t disagree with the exception of the QB shuffle in 2012. I don’t like it and as I pointed out in an earlier comments backed by fact/stats, it’s not working. Let AS play out the year and if he doesn’t do enough to be back, what better excuse to release him and move on to either CK or a drafted pocket passer??
@Hofe
As always, great job at producing stats/numbers. But respectfully, they don’t always tell us what our eyes see.
Yes, GR needs to devise plays that would MC (and our other WR’s) more productive in the redzone. But on the other hand, how many of those players have left TD’ on the field because AS failed to see them in the endzone. There have been at least 5 possible TD’s that AS has totally wiffed on because he did not a WR in the endzone. This almost averages out to one per game which as I recently mentioned is being tempered and masked because we are winning.
You dont mask 19 wins in the NFL the past two years. Eventually you would think teams would have figured out how to consistently beat a guy who you all say is limited.
Its the NFL with the best players and coaches in all of football. Think to yourselves, if Alex Smith is as bad as you all say, why and how does he keep winning? And please dont say a defense or special teams. Those factors dont audible at the line scrimmage, throw the ball, hand it off, practice the offense, get it in and out of the huddle. There is no masking going on. By saying that you are neglecting the other players on offense, the coaches, and the other great teams and players in the league.
Vince Young is 31 and 19 as a starter in the NFL. Deficiencies at the QB position can be masked successfully.
Despite his fantastic winning record Vince is currently unemployed. Apparently NFL GMs aren’t swayed by a QB’s record. They look at how the QB actually performs.
So are you then saying the 49ers organizartion of Harbaugh, Baalke and owner Jed York are blind?
Oh thats right they tried to upgrade with Manning but when the realized it would cost them 90 million and 5 roster players, they said, we can win with Alex, and lo and behold, they are. Funny how irony works.
Smith doesn’t win most of those games. Like some defensive teams of the past, sometimes the quarterback just goes along for the ride. The Rams of the 1970′s and 80′s were usually a playoff team with a strong runners and mediocre quarterback.
Yes Axel, The team can mask Plan B Alex enough to win. Alex is certainly easier to work around than the other free agent options. Once Manning declined Alex was the best of the FA options.
The fact that no other team was interested made it much easier to get Smith very cheap.
This whole disinterest in Alex Smith in free agency was because everyone and their dog knew he was going to resign with the 49ers.
If the organization felt Smith was limited and they really dont believe he can win games for them, then you dont sign him to 8 million per year. If this coaching staff thought they could mask his inability, then you go with the 2nd round pick or a veteran for less than 8 million guys. These are professional coaches and mangers and owners who know what they are doing and highly doubt they throw 8 million dollars to a guy who was the last resort. That is absurd, even for billionaires.
@Axel
If you are assuming that AS get’s all the credit for those 19 wins, then yes, it is an absolute camouflage job!
So counting last season’s wins, how many of those can you specifically attribute to AS?
If you’re going to nit-pick and find ways to give AS all the credit for those wins, one could certainly make a strong case for the our 2011 elite defense and special teams as well.
I don’t have issues with those who want to attribute wins to AS. I just happen to know better. I know that Harbaugh has surrounded AS with numerous weapons, a great defense and good special teams that have masked some of his deficiencies.
AS is winning how ever way we choose to attibute those wins, and for now that’s all that really matters.
Ah yes, when the 49ers left Alex dangling in FA everyone “knew” he’d return to the team.
Apparently everyone knew he was gutless. The team treated him like crap but everyone knew he’d come back for a 2nd helping.
Axel,
8 Mil is cheap. He is the 20th highest paid QB. He has the worst contract structure of any startung QB in the NFL, with the exception of russel wilson, who is a 3rd rounder. However, Russel is a better QB even tight now , as a rookie!
If a team really needed a QB and thought Snuth could help them, they would’ve been trying to sign him. Don’t you see how silly you sound Axel. Go to the local papers and read about how the beat writers are trashing his performance from Thursday and his declining numbers. These results can’t be defended. His performances are looking worse and worse by the week. What are you seeing that were not? The Saint game is history. Best game of his life. What has he gone for you lately. Oh yeah 16-23 for 140 yards. Come on man!
“If the organization felt Smith was limited and they really dont believe he can win games for them, then you dont sign him to 8 million per year.”
You are mixing your two statements. The organization obviously thinks they can win with Smith because they have a great defense, running game and special teams. They obviously thought the position could be upgraded as well or they would not have chased Peyton Manning. It’s because of this that they offered Smith 8 million annually, which makes him #20 in QB compensation. They also included language in the contract that allows them to move on with minimal cap hit after each year of the contract.
What is comes down to is about $ 15,000 every times he hand offs to Gore because that is what he does best.
“This whole disinterest in Alex Smith in free agency was because everyone and their dog knew he was going to resign with the 49ers.”
It was partly that but it was mainly that the musical chairs had all been filled by the time Smith finally got out there according to the media reports at the time. There was basically one team without a settled QB at that time. Of course no one wants to play for Miami and that crappy owner so… wouldn’t have been a great move for Smith.
The whole thing is still kinda fishy. The agent representing Smith AND Manning probably had a lot more to do with this than we will ever know. Some kind of gamesmanship.
“This almost averages out to one per game which as I recently mentioned is being tempered and masked because we are winning.”
AES, what do you think the avg number is per game when a QB misses a receiver?
@Hofe
I’m sure that the misses would average anywhere between 3-5 per game. But there is substantial difference between missing a pass outside the redzone as opposed to missing or in AS’ case not even seeing someone opened in the redzone.
As I said to Axel, as long as we’re winning AS’ flaws can be masked. But if we happen to lose a close game because AS fails to see an opened WR in the endzone things will get nasty.
I’m sure that Harbaugh will let AS finish the season as the starter, but AS’ continued deficiencies will certainlt not bode well during the off season. You could only camouflage something for so long before it is exposed.
AES, the misses are accentuated because the 9ers throw about 1/3 less than other teams. More tries can lead to more connections and misses. AS has played spotty this year but it seems to be aligned with his finger injury. If AS was injured enough to affect his play, why not more CK? He should be further along as well. If AS doesn’t correct his issues, then they may need use multiple picks to move up in the draft to draft CK’s competition.
The Niners are doomed! Cant score in the redzone, coach killing QB, bad coordinator, limited ability,lack of mental strength, reached his ceiling,7 years of excuses etc, etc.
But somehow under all this criticism, the guy keeps winning games. I think there is no questioning or debating that.
I agree (with the great defense, special teams in Akers & Lee, and superb running game) the Q.B. is not preventing the 9ers from most victories, but he certainly isn’t causing them either. The question going forward is will the status quo be enough or should the 9ers somehow try to upgrade their pedestrian pass attack.
In the case of the Seattle game, the team win goes on Alex Smith’s record, but it was Gore who generated the offensive production. To say that all he does is win is disingenous and disrespectfully discredits those (players and coaches) truly responsible for the team win.
During the Harbaugh era, Alex Smith has been the driving force for some wins like last years Giants regular season and Saints playoff game wins, but most often he’s a bystander who’s asked to contribute, but not carry the load. I think fans who are critics of his inconsistent performances expect him to be a true franchise QB who can carry the load and maximize the talents around him.
As his supporters point out the team is 5-2 and is a contender under his stewardship. This is a double edge sword as the team is in a SB or bust year. If they come up short, Smith won’t be retained, as the team is going to need cap space to retain the defensive core, which is the real reason they are contenders.
Keen perspective, Foam.
WCO during the good ole days focused a lot on checkdowns. We expect that we have all the.recievers needed to improve the passing attack but in reality the offense of JH and GR is predicated on the run game, After the Seattle game IMHO the ground and pound is the base, checkdowns to FG, VD, Kendall and others, passes short and medium that are based on the opportunities presented, occasional end arounds but a dynamic passing game for RM, MC, MM ? Nahhh AS would rather take a sack than throw deep, so that means our offense will be predictable unless JH will become bold at times to keep the defense honest, which is probably impossible knowing the kind of defense we have. Defense will have to make the game changers in order for the offense to be dynamic, I don’t think it’s a secret to any one of us, we just have to be realistic in our expectations. They are and will always be the same team as last year, with a few more key players to get them over the hump, let’s see what happens after the bye week, I would like to think that they will start making their moves after assessing the state of the opposing teams, they have 10 days and the bye to start tweaking their game plan again, lets give them some slack for now, the last half of the season is the key.
“The 49ers’ record is 5-2, but their offense still isn’t that good – it has scored 13-or-fewer points in three of their first seven games.”
Grant,
I would point out that your observation is accurate from a fantasy football perspective, but from a win loss perspective, which I think is the only important perspective, you are incorrect. The running offense that GR is developing is ahead of the wave, especially when we face so many defenses that are designed to stop the pass. I think our passing offense is adequate
to compliment our superior run game.
Except when the Niners are behind two or more scores and are forced to pass do you see how weak the passing attack is.
So why is AS solely to blame for a poor passing attack? Don’t the OL/WR’s have a role in making the passing game work well?
So why is AS solely to blame for a poor passing attack? Don’t the OL/WR’s have a role in making the passing game work well?
In the 2 losses, the OL/WR’s stank just as much.
The OL doesn’t overthrow wide open receivers. The WRs can’t throw the ball to themselves.
The QB defines the passing offense.
So the WR/OL share no blame in it looking bad. But do share in it looking good.
Got it.
Twinke Toes yea that is you BS, whose fault is when he has time to have a picnic in the pocket, he has wide receivers wide open but he dunks it to a back for a meaningless gain. Greg Roman fault I assumed.
The QB has the ball in his hands on every play and is responsible for getting the ball to his weapons. Like Msclemons67 said, the QB defines the offense. The good thing is that they didn’t over pay for the production they are getting.
Waaaahhh! DS is making a point and baby Neal is so stupid he can’t handle it, so he does his default loser act.
Go to a blog that cares about Bulls and S*it. You seem obsessed with it.
Cursing again BS, Grant say’s you can’t do it, even spelling the curse name wrong, yesterday the F word and today the S word. Did you see Jack post? VD was wide open several times on actual pictures and AS mechanics are just awful in the pocket. You better stop cursing at me, twinkle toes because you will get kick off and you being on here, is way more important in your sorry life, than me.
S*it
Could be:
Spit
Slit
Suit
And Bull spit is worth more than you Neal. Bull suits are worth more. Just about everything is.
What did you think S*it was? Likely what you are. And my name is DS. No question.
As far as Roman goes, I think his lack of experience as an OC in the NFL has been exposed a bit in a couple of games. He is still experiencing growing pains as an OC in preparing game plans against better defenses. Still, it’s his job to do that and to identify what works best with the players on the offensive roster. He is the one that is in charge of creating an offensive “Idenity” that is consistant game to game. Are the 49ers a “power-run team” or a balanced “pass-run” team or “gimmick-offense” team? No matter who his QB is, or additions to the offense at WR, at some point Roman needs to decide what kind of offense he is going to run and stick with it.
Geez, you get a little attention from coach harbaugh on a question he answered of yours and you’ve already exhasted me..from the plays, to vernon, now the o coordinator. ughhh
Hoferfan67 says:
October 21, 2012 at 3:38 pm
AES, the misses are accentuated because the 9ers throw about 1/3 less than other teams. More tries can lead to more connections and misses. AS has played spotty this year but it seems to be aligned with his finger injury. If AS was injured enough to affect his play, why not more CK? He should be further along as well. If AS doesn’t correct his issues, then they may need use multiple picks to move up in the draft to draft CK’s competition.
@Hofe
Correct on all points Hofe. I for one would like to see AS correct some of the flaws in his game. And yes, he’s shown that he is capable of making big plays, but he has also shown that he is capable of missing out on big plays as well.
And I agree with the fact that we don’t throw as much as other teams (although that premise didn’t seem to work for MC’ team leading receptions last season), but missing opportunities in the endzone have very little to do with the volume of passes thrown.
Last season we were all enthralled with our winning success after years of turmoil. Now, whether we like it or not, the expectations are much higher and every player will be judged according to those expectations. Alex Smith will unfortunately be held to a higher standard because it comes with the territory of being team leader and captain.
AES, he’s not doing as well as you point out and either is the defense (turnover ratio) and ST. This is a team game but AS needs to help this team win some games when the other units play poorly.
I said the same thing last week Hofe. I’m proud to say that I almost think like the great Hofer (lol).
I still have a sense that AS will make a strong showing in our upcoming games.
But I won’t look for excuses if he fails.
We need a consistently strong (not even spectacular) Alex Smith to get us to the playoffs and beyond.
But for now, “LET GO GIANTS!” clap, clap, —- clap, clap, clap!
Several of us noticed the same thing Harbaugh noticed, our receivers were mugged in the last game: http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/10/20/harbaugh-questions-pass-defense-tactics/
Actually it’s pretty obvious what is going on if you actually watch the game.
Adam, clearly the holding and the bumps were beyond the 5 yd line of scrimmage area. We saw it and they’ve been doing the same thing to N.E. among others, yet the refs acted like nothing was happening. Why? JH can ask for an interpretation but they will send some corporate PR type response that will mean nothing. Maybe the league and the refs are trying to ensure parity?
Or we just drew the short straw and got a lousy crew? Who knows but you and I and a few others were screaming it. Clearly a ton of penalties including the blatant face mask that weren’t called.
Maybe the refs didn’t like Harbaugh’s previous statement about being potentially influenced by the Giants. :P
The refs looked like the replacements out there, that’s all I know. It would be interesting to follow that crew to see how they do the rest of the season.
Actually, I was wondering why Grant didn’t write a piece on the “mugging” that went on in that game. It was well-discussed over at the Gate as your link showed Adam. It almost seemed that there was a rule change for the Seahawks giving them 10-15 yards of contact. Both Browner and Sherman were doing it with no flags to either of them. Baldwins’ response to his former coach’s complaint was kind of surprising, though.
Space,
What did baldwin say. Do you have a link for me?
Here you go Jordan.
“Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin, who played under Harbaugh at Stanford, tweeted the following: “Jim said Sherm and BB were playing too rough. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.”
Adam, i was shocked how the seahawk defense is allowed to play like that! By the way they have been playing this all year long!
I think Scott would be the best quarterback on the roster he is very accurate and has a great pocket presence reminds me of a young joe that is why hardball has kept him around
Am waiting for him too. Somehow I think he is the guy, I don’t think its Kaep.
Let the offensive rookies play, they need some speed on the outsides. Free james and jenkins from whatever doghouse thier in. randy is not the answer. Not that alex would get them the ball either.
Greg Roman (along with Harbaugh) is a brainy guy that designs plays to accentuate players strengths and hides their weaknesses. A sharp contrast to the previous coaches that demanded athletes play up to an assigned standard, no matter how far along they were in skill development.
Roman/Harbaugh also use ball control to sync the offensive game plans with the defense, attempting to minimize the number of snaps the defense has to play.
If one wants to see the Roman/Harbaugh ideal offense in action, watch a 2009-2010 Stanford game.
Last season Roman/Harbaugh installed an offense that accentuated Alex Smith’s strengths (brains, guts, speed, toughness, dedication, leadership) and hid his weaknesses (accuracy on long passes and chaos yardage… productivity when the designed play breaks down). It elevated Smith from a bottom 28-32 QB to a top 10-15 QB. A major achievement for Alex, especially when considering how decimated the WR corps was.. and in a new offense to boot.
The problem is the rules have been changed to favor passing to such an extreme even a top 10 QB is not enough, no matter how talented the rest of the team is.
There are 32 teams in the NFL that need a top 6 QB to have any hope of a Lombardi trophy. The following nine Superbowl’s have been won with the following quarterbacks… Roethlisberger, E. Manning, P. Manning, Brady, Rogers.
Like it or not, the quarterback defines the upper limit of a teams offense. There might be a little elasticity where a C+ quarterback surrounded by A+ talent makes a B- offense, but that’s it.