If the Rams are great, what are the 49ers?

Yesterday, Jim Harbaugh called the St. Louis Rams a great team.

Of course, he was using “coach-speak” like all coaches do. In plane talk, I would call the Rams a bad team. They’re 3-5. They have a subpar offense and a mediocre defense.

But let’s agree with Harbaugh and take his statement one step further. If the Rams are great, what are Harbaugh’s 49ers? What were Bill Walsh’s 49ers? What are the Faclons? What are the Bears?

Is there a word for them? Double Colossal? Extra fantastic? Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?

I’m eager to read your thoughts.

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92 Responses to If the Rams are great, what are the 49ers?

  1. Coffee's for closers says:

    We are Uber Elite.

  2. Grimey9er says:

    The Rams are a rebuilding team. The Niners are a superbowl contender.

  3. Razoreater says:

    Greater? Ofcourse that is an assumption yet to be determined Sunday 430est.

  4. MendoChuck says:

    Well all NFL teams are great.
    Some are just greater than others.

  5. neal says:

    He also said AS is a pro-bowl player.Just slick Jim playing the game.

  6. AES* says:

    About 5-7 shades from elite!

  7. MidWestNiner says:

    A well-balanced team near the cusp of being elite once again.

  8. AES* says:

    Off topic, but the great Alabama defense is being tested right now.
    I know this sounds blasphemous, but Texas A&M’ offense in the closest thing I’ve seen to a WCO on the college level.
    And their QB Manziel looks like a young Jeff Garcia.
    Very interesting.

    • msclemons67 says:

      Crazy start to the game. If Texas A&M holds on the rankings will be completely blown up.

    • Houston 9er says:

      AES, great freaking call. My wife’s family are all engineers from Tx A&M. We go to many of the games. I’ve been telling them all year that Manziel plays exactly like Jeff Garcia. Manziel even carries his shoulders like Garcia. The frenetic, wild plays he makes are so damn similar. On the telecast they were trying to say he was like Ty Detmer and I suppose that is somewhat true. But Manziel is the exact reincarnation of Garcia. The kid can play.

      On another note, Kevin Sumlin might be the coach of the year. He’s been fantastic.

  9. Big Sky Niner says:

    Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

    Nice Mary Poppins reference. I didn’t think a person as young as you would know that term.

  10. Jack Hammer says:

    http://ninerchatter.blogspot.com/2012/11/5-burning-questions-and-week-10.html

    What are you looking for from the 49ers this week?

    • Sean in Canada says:

      Hoping for no let down or looking past an important divisional game. Stick with what’s been working. Pound the run, throw 20 times and a smothering D.
      Good write up, as always, Jack.

    • MidWestNiner says:

      Good stuff as always Jack.

    • drsgrosse says:

      Jack:

      Only the Amendola question seems to be a burning one. It seems that the big question going into this game is whether the right side of the Rams D can handle the SF running game. This is their only chance.

    • dangle says:

      It’ll be disappointing if the D gives up 17 to the rams, but a 4th quarter comeback would be nice to see!

  11. JDilla says:

    In the world of coach speak, Harbaugh would call you a great journalist. It is comical how confused you are my Harbaugh’s statements.

  12. Beachie says:

    plane talk? You mean like keep your seats in their upright position?

  13. I.P. Daily says:

    Simple: The Niners are a team of mighty men…

  14. MidWestNiner says:

    My prediction is Niners 26 Rams 16 for Sunday.

  15. Sean in Canada says:

    What are the Falcons? Overrated.
    What are the Bears? Opportunistic.
    What am I? Hungry.

  16. AES says:

    Remember the name: Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M
    This kid is engineering one of the best QB college performances that I’ve seen in quite awhile.

  17. msclemons67 says:

    Off topic: my teenaged kids have a pet rabbit that makes messes everywhere. Recently it decided to chew up the drywall behind the washing machine. Afterwards it pooped all over the drywall shreds.

    So I Googled “rabbit chili” and got 6.3 million hits. Then I held the crock pot near the bunny and said “Jump! Jump, bunny, jump!”

    The kids say I’m an evil man. I think I was justified. Can we get a poll on this Grant?

    • dangle says:

      did you eat him? lol

    • Houston 9er says:

      Not for nothing but most people keep rabbits in cages.

      And I’ve had rabbit. It’s not bad. Squirrel with gravy is better. I spent some time in Mississippi for work many years ago.

    • Sean in Canada says:

      Clemons, you get a vote for justified from me. That is funny stuff.

    • drsgrosse says:

      Make the kids clean up the rabbit pellets and repair the drywall…they’ll have a different point of view…

      Rename the rabbit Precious and they’ll love him no matter where and when he poops…problem is that if you rename him Precious you will lose your ability to intelligently present your objections to his bad behavior and you will no longer be able to see the rabbit’s good qualities.

      • Sean in Canada says:

        You could also lay the blame for the vehicle breaking down, a rainy day, taxes and anything else on the rabbit.
        I bet the neighbor got a rabbit the same day you did and theirs is way better.

    • drsgrosse says:

      When Walsh came along, NFL offenses consisted of run-run-run-throw deep-run-run-run-throw deep. Walsh reasoned that the personnel hired to defend vs this type of attack would be at a disadvantage trying to stop the short, quick pass. When they adjusted to do so, Walsh was ready with plays to take advantage of new weaknesses created by the adjustments.

      As the article Mr. David linked points out, Harbaugh is doing the same thing, but doing it with the run vs defensive personnel geared to defending vs the Aaron Rodgers’ and Drew Brees’ of the NFL who throw to incredibly talented receivers.

      When the personnel and defensive schemes adjust to account for the SF run game, they create new vulnerabilities. This is where Alex Smith comes in. When the O goes to the line with 2 plays called, it is Smith who reads the D and decides which play to go with. It is the job Smith is doing in this department that Harbaugh is touting when he overpraises Smith.

      The folks on this blog who so passionately criticize Smith have, to date, failed to make their case. Smith’s deficiencies as a passer are fairly obvious. Yes, Smith is no Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Manning, etc. However, he is not being asked to be that type of QB.

      The evaluation of Peyton Manning was not very much about his passing skills. Pros like Harbaugh and Baalke could undoubtedly see that those talents were intact on his first throw. The question was how would Manning fit into the team, the team, the team. How much would the offense have to be changed to go pass-first? How well would that neck stand up to all the hits allowed by a line that is better at run blocking than it is at pass blocking? Where would the team get the extra $12 million and how would the changes necessitated by that bill affect team play?

      Harbaugh and Baalke decided to stand pat with their offensive approach and resign Alex Smith as their trigger man.

      So, criticism of Alex Smith must be made on the basis of how well he fulfills his overall role in the offense of this team, this team, this team. By the design of the offense, this critique must be about his play calling. To whine and cry because Smith isn’t Tom Brady, Cam Newton or RG3 is like criticizing an apple because it isn’t a very good orange.

  18. Houston 9er says:

    Are the 49ers headed toward salary cap trouble? National Football Post has 2 49ers, Navarro Bowman & Alex Boone, on their most underpaid players list. The 9ers will probably have to address Bowman’s contract first but both players are playing themselves into major paydays.

  19. Nick says:

    The current survey question

    Who would you rather have as the QB of the 49ers?

    Andrew Luck
    Alex Smith

    42 votes for Alex Smith? It looks like the THE BASIC LAWS OF HUMAN STUPIDITY are in full display.

    http://www.searchlores.org/realicra/basiclawsofhumanstupidity.htm

    • Sean in Canada says:

      “It is clear that the individual who persecutes a man, his brother, because he is not of the same opinion, is a monster.”
      ― Voltaire

    • DS94everXev says:

      Nick

      Why does that bother you so?

    • neal says:

      Nick, The SMITHERS, the real haters, who hate every player that does not make AS look good, which means they hate CK, who wants his job or Crabs, or even Roman.That being said you h ave Prime Slime Axel Foley turkey lips welcher voting with all of his phony profiles, and DS voting in all of the public libraries in Oakland, the poll is full of BS.

      • Prime Time says:

        Neal you need to take 2 weeks off work, watch the NFL network the entire time, listen to every word they say, write it down, memorize it, study it. Then when you have a clue come back on here and try and add some football insight. Until then keep being dumb!

      • Neal says:

        Prime Welcher, you were suppose to be off this blog for two weeks, but you welched and could not do it, they made the movie dumb and dumber after you, Prime Axel

      • Prime Time says:

        Trust me Neal, follow my instructions, they will make you a better man. Not sure that is possible but according to your football input on here, anything is worth a shot.
        Enjoy hating on Alex during the game today. I feel so sorry for the people having to watch the game with you.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Prime

        Why do you feel sorry for them? They choose to be with him. And his 10% body fat would intimidate anybody from ever disagreeing with him.

  20. Jack Hammer says:

    47 people would choose Alex Smith over Andrew Luck? Interesting…

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      For this offense, based on the record and what they do, not so surprising (see drsgrosse read above to understand). Plus AS was drafted a 9er, so there is some loyalty in that.

      • Jack Hammer says:

        “For this offense, based on the record and what they do, not so surprising”

        Luck has a 3 year head start in this system, and did everything Smith is doing at the line of scrimmage, etc. I understand loyalty, but this team would still be 6-2 today with Luck at QB. Heck he has a Colts team that is far less talented at 6-3.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Good for the Colts. I’m happy for them. When you lose damn near every game in a previous season, you get a losers schedule the following year. BTW, good for AL. It’s a ridiculous discussion. AL is on the Colts and AS is on the 9ers. It’s the way it is, so time to move along…

      • Jack Hammer says:

        You responded to me remember Hofer? Good times!

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Yes, and I’m saying that for me, the convo is over!

      • Jack Hammer says:

        LoL! Good times!

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        TBD LOL

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Your a good dude Hofer. Your unwavering support for the 2011-12 version of Tommy Maddox should be commended.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Maybe AS will go farther in the playoffs than JG ever did. I was a fan but talk about dink and dunk. 6.9 ypa!!

      • Jack Hammer says:

        He already has Hofer. LoL!!

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        I know, just seeing if the coffee you were drinking was decaf or leaded! Obviously leaded!! LOL

      • Jack Hammer says:

        Quadruple shot of espresso Hofer! It’s GAMEDAY!!!! WOOOOO-HOOOOO!!!!!!

      • msclemons67 says:

        “When you lose damn near every game in a previous season, you get a losers schedule the following year.”

        This myth needs to stop. 14 games on a team’s schedule are set years in advance. Record only affects 2 games.

        Luck is making the kind of difference a #1 pick is supposed to make.

      • Coffee's for closers says:

        Hof said: “When you lose damn near every game in a previous season, you get a losers schedule the following year”

        True but the reality is that the Colts have played a harder schedule then the NY Giants. The Giants before today have played teams with a .406 win percentage and the Colts have played against .449 teams. For comparison the 49ers s.o.s. percentage is .530.

        So maybe, just maybe Luck wouldn’t have looked quite as successful playing against tougher teams, although I doubt it.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        Yes, they’ve done a better job, but their strength of schedule is .500 and they play only 7 quality opponents (with record previously of 9+ wins). This Indy team wasn’t a 2-14 team with their talent.

    • Neal says:

      47 votes but in actuality only 11 people, with their multple profiles

    • Neal says:

      Jack,

      Even the Smithers, except BS and Masta Bater, know that JH would take Andrew Luck in a heart beat over their boy toy. Even Alex Smith knows that JH would take AL over him.

      • Prime Time says:

        When speaking to your father, you should address him as Dad, Daddy, or Papa. Have you no respect Neal?

      • Neal says:

        Oh Masta Bata Prime Welcher, I am sorry I called your sister BS, she deserves better, well not really

      • Prime Time says:

        That’s weak Fitzbob. Maybe you stick to insults that are of reference to mentally debilitating diseases. That’s right up your alley!

      • Neal says:

        Prime Axe welcherl, do you have Napolean complex. ?I think I saw you in one of the midget tossing contests. lol

      • Prime Time says:

        Lol? What are you a teenager? Do you get your son to write on the blog for you? Weak buddy, weak!

      • Neal says:

        I got under your fur which is quite easy, are you watching the game at animal control.Heard you are getting your nads cut off, thankgoodnesss, the world does not need little welchers running around.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Wuss boy

        Stop bringing up BS. He’s a lot better than you. Of course your wuss boyfriends here don’t set a great example either.

        Wuss, wuss, wuss. Be a man, make the bet, or get the hell out! Football is not for wuss boys.

        Have a nice day.
        :- )

      • Neal says:

        BS,

        Even a crappy QB like AS can beat the Rams, when we have a great defense.

      • DS94everXev says:

        Wussy wuss boy

        I said it in the AZ game. I say it this game. I’ll say it next game.

        You see wuss boy, I believe in my team. And the only measure AS is average in is yards. Well, guess what? PM right now has just over 200 and is 21/26 and is winning 24-7 or so. That is an AS game. An average AS game.

        Your dream lover EM is losing 31-6. Andy Dalton has under 200, and 4 TD’s. EM has 3 INT’s. Keep thinking yards mean something. You’re so smart for thinking it.

  21. Prime Time says:

    Did anyone see Chris Ivory’s run against the Falcons? Guaranteed highlight of the day!

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      I’m watching six games and will need to rewind to see it because I was writing at the time…I would be very happy if the overrated Falcs lost.

    • Hoferfan67 says:

      WOW the way he accelerated to the outside and then cut back to the middle of the field…OUTSTANDING RUN!!

      • Prime Time says:

        The stiff arm as well. As good as a DC coordinator Nolan is, his teams are not consistent against the run.

      • Hoferfan67 says:

        If we see the Falcs in the playoffs, we can run on them although the 9ers don’t have anyone with CIvory’s speed. The 9ers RBs are more slashers. FG can’t run it to the house like he did against SEA a few years back. KH is more quick than fast. It will be interesting.

  22. Hoferfan67 says:

    In CAR, the Den/CAR game is tied at 7 after the half. I’d like to see Denv lose today.

  23. Hoferfan67 says:

    Does anyone know what time Grant gets to the stadium when they play at home?