I keep reading from scribes and bloggers all over the country that, despite Colin Kaepernick’s arm strength, he is not getting the ball down the field. This is meant as a criticism of Kaepernick and it usually accompanies the question: Why did Jim Harbaugh choose Kaepernick over Smith because Smith is better?
Number One: Kaepernick cannot throw what Greg Roman doesn’t call.
Number Two: if Roman continually calls for the deeper ball (patterns or individual routes) on obvious passing downs and distances, chances are the opposing defensive coordinator is going to play a secondary coverage shell that will “discourage” Kaepernick from attempting to push the ball down the field or from holding it long enough for the free-release receivers to get even with or beyond the deepest of the secondary.
Number Three: Roman must select and utilize a personnel grouping and a formation within that personnel grouping that is most conducive to forcing the opposing defensive coordinator into a coverage that allows the offense the best opportunity to NOT throw into heavy coverage.
For example, in 22 Personnel, a play-action pass can be paired with a run and a dummy (double) cadence utilized by the QB so if the coverage does not present a favorable advantage for the offense, the QB can “kill” the original play and go with the second play.
Call the pass and kill it to a run, or call the run and kill it to a pass based upon the pre-snap coverage disguise. The double cadence will force the defense to show what they are going to play because they do not know if the cadence is real or dummy.
For example, if the defense shows a single-safety-high scheme when an offense is in 22 Personnel, stay with the play-action pass. If the defense features a two-deep shell, kill the pass and go with the run because you have an advantage in the box.
Troy Aikman made a living with a simple one or two-play concept on the Cowboys when he had Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin.
If he saw a two-deep shell, they ran the slide draw against 7 in the box, and if 8 in the box, Aikman would hit Irvin on the skinny post forever.
Football is not rocket science or brain surgery. Teams have used these tactics for decades and continue to use them today. It’s time for the Niners to utilize these elementary concepts to get the most out of their new quarterback.
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He is a running QB. Roman is a running orientated coordinator. The offensive line is built to run block better than pass protect. We have depth at the RB position. Lets just call it for what we are and stop pretending we are this dynamic offense or trying to become one.
Yesterday’s game was so boring it reminded me of the 2000/01 Ravens. So of it work for them and it is the strength of our personnel, lets do it!
Then why did JH draft him Prime?
I agree with your points. But CK does seem out of place in a run dominant play it safe system.
he drafted him for his legs. his arm is a bonus for those occasional “shot” plays.
Harbaugh drafted him to be the starting QB of the team, obviously.
Sink or swim P from here on out with CK?
JH drafted him to get rid of AYlex and n the. Smithers. hank you very much Jimmy. I appreciate my new toy. Too bad Alex didn’t get to play with the new toys he got!
** Thank you Jimmy!!!
Sink or swim with Harbaugh, Prime, I trust his football decisions. I trusted them when Smith was the starter too.
Fair enough P. So you won’t mind some occasional skepticism by an old Smither will you? I mean for years some of you would not let go of some inefficiencies in Smith game, I guess it’s all relative with CK?
Prime,
I have consistently praised Smith when he has performed well and have been critical of him when he hasn’t. Always. Skepticism? Sure, I get that, but return the understanding when you don’t agree with me. I don’t care who the QB is as long as we are winning. I don’t care for how Harbaugh handled the situation, but I do believe he really thinks this is the right thing to do. I trust Harbaugh, …….unless he’s talking to the media. Take care.
Prime,
I have consistently praised Smith when he has performed well and have been critical of him when he hasn’t. Always. Skepticism? Sure, I get that, but return the understanding when you don’t agree with me. I don’t care who the QB is as long as we are winning. I don’t care for how Harbaugh handled the situation, but I do believe he really thinks this is the right thing to do. I trust Harbaugh, …….unless he’s talking to the media. Take care.
Fair enough P! I’m not sold yet on CK. It’s possible I will be after the next 2 games.
Prime – You’re creepin towards Kap, inch by inch……The highly explosive Texans couldn’t do squat against Patriots, if Kap/Niners can pull a victory off in New England you will be a welcomed member of club Kap. :)
You just take all the above arguments by Grant and turn them around for Smith. The constantly bias positions seem to be pro CK7 and anti AS. In one case it is all AS’s fault and in CK7′s case it is designation of blame. Sometimes it would be nice to just have an honest analysis rather than what we get. There is no mention of the timeouts because he didn’t know what was happening and couldn’t manage the clock. Nothing said about the open receivers that he missed. Now it is Roman’s fault, the offensive lines fault for sacks. Before it was AS held the ball to long. It pains me to read some of the opinions spewed by Grant and his father. It is obvious when they like someone it is everyone elses fault when something goes wrong and if they don’t like you it is your fault. No matter what AS’s statistics in wins, passer ratings, game management it has always been their contention that he was the wrong guy. Now no one can do a better job the CK7 no matter how bad he plays.
DS great question. I think they thought the development could be relatively short. Looks like they still believe that. 3 more weeks to show it.
It definitely won’t take eight years.
You’re right it won’t. Kaepernick has a competent coach in Harbaugh that understands the QB position, which was something his predecessors severely lacked.
Midwest
You know what Urban Meyer said. Alex is non-functional. CK walked onto the field at Reno and had “it” from the get-go. Same as here, against the Bears. By the end of his career there, he singlehandedly destroyed Boise St at the height of its power.
If I recall Sycop, the Boise St. missed two critical field goals in that game.
As for CK, he landed under a great coach that understands how to develop a QB. Compare that to being under Nolan and Singletary. It wouldn’t have have mattered if a QB had ‘it’ or not because their incompetent thoughts on how to run an offense would have hindered any QB’s development.
He got a great arm, threw for 10,000 yards in college, and 4 games in, he is better then AS. That is not saying much, but this guy is the real deal.
Neal
That wasn’t against the likes of the Seattle/AZ and Rams defense though.
The big boy league. And this is the biggest of the big. The smallest of which (Rams) CK couldn’t beat.
Stay tuned for Seattle in Seattle. Where teams get Seattled.
DS you might as well be talking to a donkey!
Hey Neal…
You’re one of the first on this blog to piss on AS after the 9er’s win….Kaep has a great arm, can run like a runnig back, sees the field well….all of the traits you want in an NFL QB…but, you’ve never, ever questioned the play calling or the decisions of the coaching staff with regard to the offensive production in a given game….next Sunday night will be the game that spells how good the 49er’s, JH and staff, Colin Kaepernick really are……..you can go ahead and pos your negative response to this post (you’re not a real 49er Fan, etc.,etc.) but, from what I’ve seen the last few weeks, the is no way the 49er’s beat NE next Sunday…..right now, they aren’t good enough. I really hope I’m wrong, but my sincere belief is that JH is restraining the offense from what it could be, and has been for a while…IMHO
55 ,
Thanks for letting me know that I am not a real 49er fan, that was a deep and thoughtful, as far as your statement. Most of it is inaccurate, I have given AS his due, when he played well and actually thought and said he was a top 10 QB in the league after the first two games this season, I have always question Roman game plan since last season and blamed Roman equally when AS played poorly, or the offense is stalled.
I also disagree that Patriots game is do or die, CK has played in only 4 games in his career and say we will see how good he is against the Pats is unfair, CK has done in 4 games that took AS 8 years to do. I have always said that Roman and AS are inconsistent, I don’t think Roman is a top notch offensive coordinator. This game will be great to watch but as I said it is not do or die in my mind,and CK will even be better next year. CK is going to be a great QB, but needs the right game plan to succeed.
Neal…you are quite possibly the worst crap talking,Smith hating blogger around…only your long lost brother Jordan might be your equal…
@Neal…
First, I never inferred that you were not a real 49er fan….Second, I appreciate your response, in that it was free of insults and denegrating comments….
Bottom line is this….like I’ve previously noted, I dont’ care who the QB is, as long as the 49er’s win…..Kaepernick has a great arm, runs well and sees the field….but, that being said, the offense is gonna be 60% run, 40% pass (give or take)…so, if you think that JH is going to throw 35 times a game, with 3 or 4 50 yd strikes, forget it….it ain’t what he wants to do……today, the OFFENSE as a whole, really doesn’t appear to be much different than when Alex Smith was under center…..IMHO……December is when the ‘good’ teams peak…the Pats are peaking……NE may, or may not be a do or die game for the 49er’s…but it is most certainly a barometer of how good they are…..as I previously posted, tonight, I don’t see the 49er’s beating the Patriots…I’m looking at the game realistically….if they win, I’ll gladly take all of the chiding and grief that comes to me…but, this is how I see things playing out.
55,
if the Niners fall behind you don’t see the Niners throwing more???
How has Cam Newton improved this year?
This time last year everybody thought he would take the next step.
Well he took a few steps alright…backwards.
This silly notion that CK or player x (especially QB’s) will get better the next year hax s no factual basis. Why? Because the opponents in year 2 have a whole season of film to look over and find weaknesses. As well as a whole draft and FA period to find players with the skills necessary to beat him which they hadn’t before. Cam/CK/QB x must get better to stay the same.
Stop with the idea players get better by default in year 2 because that isn’t a fact.
BS,
We know QBs don’t automatically get better. Hell, I had to watch Alex Smith stink it up for 6 years for my beloved Niners. When you get your job taken by several QB’s . When you get benched by several coaches. When you’re a 1st round bust and everyone knows it except loyal members of your cult. It’s probably time to stop beating a dead horse and just retire. I got Smith retiring at the end of the season. The Smithers all go on suicide watch!!!
The New England Patriots dismantled a phenominal Texan team and you think this is a litmus test for a 1st year starter in his 5th start?
I think that’s a little far fetched. The New England Patriots have had a full year to prepare for this game. I believe they felt like they were going to face SF in the superbowl last year and were just as shocked to be playing against NY as everyone of us were.
I’d be happy to see us be competitive in Foxboro but a win to “prove” a decision is juvenile. It’s a great thing the 49ers aren’t ran by such emotionally rash thinking.
Mr. Chess
So says the guy who thinks you can compare AS rookie year to CK this year with any meaningful insight.
In case ya didn’t catch it, CK replaced a 19- 5 QB because he gives us the best chance to win supposedly. So yeah. CK is expected to win. Not to lose or tie. And he is expected to beat the best teams because those are the ones we’ll play in the playoffs.
I’m not lowering my expectations because CK is in there. You seem happy to have dumped the guy who won and not have higher expectations for the new guy. Huhhh??? JH does or else he NEVER makes the change. Doesn’t matter if you agree or not with the decision, but CK is expected to win now.
@Bay….
Good Morning…do I see them throwing more if they fall behind??? Will they have a choice? The bigger question in this whole scenario is, what are JH and GR going to do if that proves to be the case? The whole idea against a team like the Pats is to jump out to an early lead so you don’t find yourself in a position like that. The way NE took apart the Texans last night in every phase of the game, doesn’t bode well for our guys with the way they’ve played the last 3-4 weeks……from here on out, the 9er’s have to bring their ‘A’ game…..especially the coaches.
Morning 55,
I think the Niners come out throwing the ball. They try to catch a lead first and then go back to boring Niner ball playing the field position game and running it.
I didn’t think it would work against the Packers and it did, so there’s no reason it can’t work here.
The Packers are just so balanced in their attack. They have Lloyd on the outside, they have Hernandez working the linebackers in the middle, they have Welker working the flats and when you cover all of that, they have the draws and screens.
Everyone is talking about our offense and keeping up, I am thinking this so far is the game of the year for Fangio.
The anti 49ers are in full force in this room. Last night I saw a lot of negativity. 55 this is the type of game we all get excited for. Really excited. The last game that we got this pumped up for was the Giants game earlier this year. Measuring stick game. We all know how that turned out. Well the next two weeks are both measuring stick games. I’m optimistic.
Don’t underestimate the Niners. I remember when Elvis Gerbac went into Dallas and NO ONE gave us a chance. For the first time in my life my Niners were 13.5 point underdogs. There was so much negative talk that I even started believing we couldn’t win that game. WE WENT IN THERE AND KICKED THAT ASS. Gotta believe baby, gotta believe.
DS when you say Mr. Chess, I am assuming you are addressing me since all of the responses seem to be rebutals to an opinion I posted. I’m flattered. Thank you.
However, I think your vernom for the replacement of Smith for Kaepernick is clouding your legitimate ideas.
I wasn’t a fan of Alex Smith, but I also wasn’t a fan of Kaepernick or him starting this year. I think you can go back and see that I thought he should wait to start until next season. All that being said, I am a 49er fan first. I yelled and was proud when AS beat NO. I was proud and stoked when Kaepernick beat Chicago.
I think the underlining problem for whoever starts is Greg Roman. I am not a fan of the play calling. I am and have always been a vocal fan of Alex Smith’s professionalism and his heart. He’s not the starter though, so I don’t focus too much time on what he might have done this year.
I don’t think it’s realistic to compare a 1st year starter to an 8 year starter. I would love Kaepernick to go the route of Roethlesberger and win a superbowl this year. However, if he doesn’t, I’m not going to go out and burn my niner gear.
I just think there are some irrational comments and expectations for players on this team. They need butts in the seats cheering for them.
So of the best advise I ever got, you have to allow yourself to be happy. I might not agree with the QB change, but I’m still happy SF is in the playoff hunt.
Kaepernick runs one more time per game than Alex. One. He’s simply way more effective than the Precious.
You Smithers need to drop the big lie of CK being a “running QB”. Or at least be fair and call Alex a running QB as well.
What??
I’ll spell it out oneniner.
Alex ran 3.6 times per game before he got benched. CK7 runs 4.6 times per game. I realize math is hard but trust me when I say that is a difference of one run per game.
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Lemons the tarded hobbit you miss me much.
I guess I am stuck in your pea size brain like precious.
Primate,
CK7 is not a running QB. He’s a better pocket QB than AS and he’s only a redshirt freshman. Of course you thought last week’s game was boring. You were expecting CK7 to crap all over the field. That meant another round of therapy sessions with your shrink. Do you and DS get group discount at the local shrink?
My only question is, why don’t their seem to be more intermediate options on those plays that are clearly designed to go downfield?
So you send Moss, Davis, Ginn, whoever downfield for a long pass – even when Gore or Miller is there for the available checkdown – you’d think that there would also be at least one WR or extra TE who’s *not* downfield, and available 10 yds or so away as an outlet in the event that all downfield options are covered.
I remember AS hitting a lot of those intermediate routes for 1st downs.
Keep those memories bs. You’ll relive some new ones next year watching Jacksonville playing. Gawd you’re pathetic
AS was a bust for five or six years. He had a season and a half of playing competent winning football. And, last year the defense had so many turnovers AS had the shortest field position in the league. I have to hand it to AS though…he was able to salvage a career and will be a great backup QB next year. BUT, it’s so obvious that Kaep is the better quarterback now, and his upside is astronomical compared to AS.
When are you going to start rooting for the team and not hoping that you will get to say “I told you so.” The thing is, you will never be able to say “I told you so” because AS would not have done as well as you think had Harbaugh not made the change. No evidence of it. After all, the offense was inconsistent this year with AS too. I trust Harbaugh to make that evaluation. Sorry that he broke your heart.
I remember Alex Smith getting benched over and over and over again.
I e member Mike Singletary saying that Alex Smith was “Meek!” What a compliment!
I remember Jim Harbaugh making them look pretty stupid!
“Football is not rocket science or brain surgery.”
You got that right Grant. Good piece.
In the NFL it is complicated. Of course as a former coach you should know how sophisticated it can get.
Maybe your teams were always just bigger and stronger than everyone else and you just ran over everyone you played.
There is not a more technical game that relies so much on timing, technique, continuity and trust than in the game of football.
It’s not rocket science but it is a game that has many scientific principles.
Prime,
As a former coach and friend of a former 49ers QB, I can tell you it is far less complicated than you think. Many of the same concepts you see on Sunday can be seen every Saturday in a college game or Friday night at a high school game. The only real difference is the margin for error shrinks dramatically at each level.
And that margin of error is why they are professional athletes coached by professional coaches. In a game of inches, every inch is accounted, recounted, planned and replanned many times over.
If it were that easy Jack, everyone would do it and no one would ever get fired.
Exactly Prime, but that doesn’t make it rocket science or brain surgery…
Yeah but you guys make it sound like it does not involve some critical and anytical thinking.
Grant says “Teams have used these tactics for decades and continue to use them today.
The game has also evolved and still does from week to week. You cannot just implement an idea or play and say it worked in the past it will work today. That’s how Singletary got fired. Coaches that try to put square pegs in round holes don’t last. Without writing a rocket entry, it’s very unique at the NFL level.
Most of what you see today Prime has been used for years in some variation. The wildcat is today’s version of the old single wing. The read option is a more wide open version of the old triple option. The fly sweep is a modification of the old wing T sweep. The wide open stuff Green Bay and New England run are just beefed up versions of the WCO.
The metrics are all based on percentages. In this down and distance with this formation they do x this %, y this % and z this %.
Not simple, but not complex. Not rocket science, but yes smarts are involved.
I think my point is that there are all these systems, styles and plays. The sophistication comes with matching each one to your personnel. This is where it is a science. Finding out what your players do well and evolve it to meet their skill set.
This is why the QB switch puzzles me. CK is a runner and a supposed big arm threat. We have seen him run but not nearly enough down field throws. This may be because the personnel surrounding him is trying to adapt. This is why I disagree with it. It’s too late in the season for it to be playoff ready.
Axel Primordial Foley
You through around some big words (critical and anytical thinking, scientific principles, etc). I seriously doubt that you understand their meaning however.
Your thinking pattern has been anything but analytical or scientific. Those terms imply impartiality. You’ve been the most partial AS supporter out there.
CK7′s skills fit this offense perfectly. He can do what AS does and then some. He’s much harder to defend because of his strong arm (take note: defenses are fearing the deep ball and taking away most options as Grant suggested and Vangio stated last week) and his home run running ability. Get with the program, support the team, and get ready for an amazing playoff run.
*throw
Nick
If CK is much harder to defend, thank goodness we didn’t have AS in there the past 4 games.
17 offensive points in NO.
13 offensive points in a loss to the Rams while he gave the Rams 10 points for a grand difference of 3 points.
And his total points in the first half the past 3 games is 20.
If you are trying to make a good case, you didn’t.
DS’s favorite things to say to people when Smith was the starter:
1. Do you know more about football than Harbaugh?
2. Are you still all in?
3. You just don’t know. You may think you know, but you don’t know. And you never will.
Practice what you preach, it won’t make you sound smarter, but at least you won’t be a hypocrite.
You’ve been studying. Greg Roman needs to lose the philoshophy of taking what the defense gives you, and embrace the mentality of taking from the defense whatever you want.
Correct, you dictate to the other team dont let the other team dictate to you. Its called owning the other team.
Action always beats reaction.
Very true undercenter.
But to do that you need to control the game from the outset. And the halftime scores in all but the Bears game, we were not controlling anybody.
The last thing you want a team to have is hope. And if an inferior losing team isn’t getting dictated too, then those losers start thinking they can win. And that is dangerous. Because then they just might (Rams).
Greg Roman needs to lose the philoshophy of taking what the defense gives you, and embrace the mentality of taking from the defense whatever you want.
Yeah, what did Bill Walsh know about offensive philosophy?
Here’s a cool link to a Mr. Walshs’ lecture; http://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2007/08/bill-walsh-method-for-game-planning.html
Razoreater,
The problem is you can’t always do that, if you want to win anyway. It’s fine to say it, but to make it happen on the field is a different story. If it was as easy as dictating what you are going to do, everybody would do it and defenses in this league would all be garbage. There’s a reason why Coaches and players spend hours upon hours in the film room. You win by studying what your opponent does and try to exploit it. If you go into a game saying this is what we’re going to do no matter what they throw at us, then you are more than likely Mike Singletary and are failing miserably.
You have to out think your opponent and create mismatches in your favor based on what looks they are giving you. You can force some plays to a guy like Davis depending on the matchup he has, but a gameplan has to be based on finding the weakness’ in the defense of the team you are playing moreso than lining up and doing what you do.
I do not disagree with your premise, however it’s up to the players to make it happen on the field. VD quick pass straight up the seam on either side. Slants and Screens, check downs out of the backfield. Use your imagination to attack, attack, attack the defense keeping them off their comfort zone. It is a mentality.
*See Patriots offense.*
Razor,
No argument with that but you make those plays happen through exploiting a weakness in the defense. There are certain things a team can do every game because it’s their identity, but the big plays and the game changing situations happen through scheme. I’m with you on VD though. It’s unacceptable to have him playing such a small role in the pass game. They have to get him more involved somehow.
Rocket,
Those game changing situations happen through scheme and by winning the one-on-one battles.
Good one Razor
Has no one noticed the massive increase in the number of out routes in both the intermediate and deep distances? Alex Smith cannot make that throw, but Kaepernick can because of the increase in arm strength. That’s a far more useful route to the Niners than any go route to Ginn/Moss/Davis will ever be.
Steven,
In the minds of the Smith supporters. A pass that length is dangerous e. they would prefer the 6 yard out or the 5 yard curl. It’s safer.
and in your small mind JJ was better than Kap….remember..hahahahahahahah
Look. It’s obvious that GR or JH aren’t going to chuck the ball down the field. This is the offense were going to get. Run first, set up the play action and take the occasional shot downfield. So if anyone is thinking they’re going to eventually throw the ball 30 yards or more 10 times a game better think again. The most anyone will see the ball thrown a lot will be a match of the bears game.
First receivers need to get open. I didn’t see much seperation from the wr on Sunday. Vernon Davis is hot dogging it out there. He’s either injured or unhappy. He is NOT getting open behind the lb’s. my guess is that he is frustrated. It’s not on ck or smith that is on GR!
Look who’s been reading his copy of Football for Dummies. Good job Grant.
Lol rocket who told you that you were a guru on football? So you can look up stats and copy and paste. But when it comes to watching and understanding football you don’t know much. How’s that consistency working out for Smith? I hope you’re joking. Because that hand shouldn’t reach your back.
MD,
Well I wasn’t patting myself on the back; just ribbing Grant, but compared to you I’m Vince Lombardi. Now go back to what you do well: making nonsensical statements based on your flawed memory/opinion instead of what actually transpires on the field.
Flawed memory and non sense said if smith Didnt become more consistent he’d be on the bench. So how’s that again? Stick to copy and paste. You computer stat guru’s are the reason fantasy football is around. Now take a back seat from someone who knows football from what he see’. Not what stats say. Have a wonderful night Rocket. And remember CK is the starter now, so get behind him and cheer.
Next to you Rocket I am Rudy : )
MD,
Stop trying to pretend you know something that you don’t. Smith was on one of the best stretches of his career when he was benched. You form opinions based on what you want to believe; not what actually takes place. You telling me I don’t understand football is pathetic with some of the mindless garbage you’ve spewed on here over the years. If you really want to get into it, I’ll be happy to look up some of your gems of wisdom and remind everybody how thick headed you are. Move along and don’t write a check you can’t cash.
Jack,
Rudy? You are the Coach and head scout man.
rocket
If the movie is accurate, the coach in Rudy’s final year (Devine I believe who was also JM’s HC) wasn’t so fond of Rudy. It was the DC or DL coach who was.
@ rocket:
Although it goes without saying that I think you are Bill Walsh to ninermd’s Mike Singletary, I want to say it anyway:
You are Bill Walsh to ninermd’s Mike Singletary.
DS,
Don’t overthink it.
Claude,
You’re being too kind. MD is Pete McCulley.
Really interested in this Monday night matchup. If any team mirrors ours it the texans. And they are already running down the Pats throats. Beat em up Houston
Ummm.
Well hopefully the mirror broke. Because Houston came out flat. They started great running the ball and early penalties killed any starting momentum. Yep sounds a little like these 49ers. It’s going to be a tough one.
Don’t forget the turnovers. Man, that interception in the end zone was a killer!
Didnt take Brady long.
Grant
Usually you’re pretty good, but isn’t this simply a summary of what the Niners did with Alex for most of the last 1.5 seasons? Why don’t you write more about pistol? Do you not think they should play to CKs strengths?
Yeah let’s scrap our entire offense for a gimmick Div.II college one.
How’s their production? 29th ranked passing game with Alex. Try using something different with the current QB.
Reno is Division I. CK set records. The Niners tailored the offense for him for parts of last game, including the TD. Don’t be surprised to see it again. Oh, also, it’s working in Washington.
Oh, one more thing, don’t comment unless you know about what you’re writing about. It makes you seem foolish.
Why you still talking about Alex Tarzan and don’t pretend you don’t know who you really are?
They did tailor the offense to CK and it was like watching paint dry. The offense was terrible yesterday except for one long run by the QB. You think the pistol offense will work against playoff teams?
I do I do, but I’m not this Tarzan you speak of. Sorry for disappointing you.
Watching Alex every game of his career was like watching paint dry, with two exceptions, against the Saints last hear and the Texans a few years ago in the second half.
Did you check to find out about Reno? Have you brushed up on your Kaepernick highlights yet? Get to it, No. 7!!!
Tarzan your other ape mates are waiting for you. Funny I googled CK touchdowns against MIA, result= Zero TD’s! Hmmm!
Anybody who thinks the past 3 weeks the coaches didn’t put in plays for CK doesn’t know jack.
Of course they have. Argue the success of the decision/plays all you want. But the idea that JH/GR aren’t putting in plays which they think CK will be comfortable with is just stupid.
Prime,
Syco is right that Nevada is a Div 1A program. Furthermore, the pistol offense was created by Chris Ault, Nevada’s HC, so its origin is also Div 1A. At this time, it is being run as an entire offense by many Mountain West Conference (Div 1A) schools, and UCLA uses the pistol as a formation, much like the ‘Skins are doing in DC. And I could be wrong, but I think that Stanford used the pistol formation when Harbaugh was there.
Right now, Washington is using pistol formations with success with RG3 — the Giants defense had a fair amount of trouble defending it. Also, the 49ers have run pistol formations since last year with Smith at QB – they just stepped it up this last game. Other NFL teams have also used the pistol formation here and there. Its usefulness in the NFL (other than with RG3) appears to be as a situational formation, much like the shotgun is used .
Having said the above, I believe that using the pistol as a major component of an NFL offense has a limited shelf life. NFL defenses will adjust, especially if it is used to the extent Washington is using it. Furthermore, defenses that are strong against the run, such as Miami (#9) and the Rams (#13) (and unlike the Giants (#22 against the run)), are better prepared to stop the pistol than pass oriented defenses, and we saw some of that the past two weekends.
I do not claim to be a football tactician by any stretch, but I do not believe the pistol formation will be very successful against the Pats. The problem I foresee for Sunday is that the Pats are #8 against the run, as well as being the #11 scoring defense. Additionally, they showed last year that they know how to stop a read-option offense, and while the pistol is much more dangerous than the limited read-option garbage Tebow ran for the Broncos, I believe the Pats will be well prepared to deal with pistol formations.
Didn’t CK play a lot in that Giants game? He didn’t do much to scare them then.
DS,
DS,
I do not believe they had CK in a pistol formation in the Giants game, but I could be wrong. Also, Washington has better personnel for running the pistol effectively, although the CK/James combination may be fruitful. Finally, Washington used it extensively in their game against the Giants game with sufficient success to win the game, but that was mainly because the Giants are not a very good run defense.
I didn’t say anything about the pistol offense. Try those reading comp classes yourself.
All I said was he played in that game and he didn’t scare any Giants players.
I agree with you on the run D comment. I complained why we didn’t run it more against them after the loss. Our strength, their weakness. Pretty simple stuff there.
I apologize, DS. Since your post, which was lacking in contextualizing references, followed my post that addressed the pistol and referenced the Giants in that context, and since the Giants had not been referenced in this particular thread outside my pistol comments, my best assessment was that you were associating my comment on the pistol with your remembrance of CK’s play against the Giants. In the future, I will take into consideration your habit of insufficiently referencing the context of your quotes, along with your propensity for posting self-serving non sequiturs and your inclination toward disproportionate defensiveness, when responding to your less effectively written posts.
I would ignore your posts like I do those of Jordon, but you occasionally have insightful comments.
And one more thought — if I wanted to be a jerk, which I should avoid because, as Sponger Bob says (or rather sings), “Don’t be a jerk — it’s Christmas!”, I would point out that in my post that referenced reading comprehension, I did not actually mention reading comprehension classes — I just postulated that reading comprehension was an issue. The irony of this situation speaks for itself.
JPN001
Permit me to add a missive. DSLips does not understand subtlety, irony, or sarcasm. Your intelligence quotient is SO clearly beyond his comprehension that your entire post falls on deaf ears with that one. I, for one, appreciated your funny response, however, so I hereby thank you and add you to my reading list.
Aaron Hernandez vs. Brady James = touchdown Pats. Notice where Hernandez was aligned – in the backfield where a LB, not a DB, was assigned to coverage.
That’s called game planning and creating mismatches.
Thanks Coach!
Brady James is no Patrick Willis or Navarro Bowman
You think Willis and Bowman can keep up with Hernandez?
Yes, but I also think you will see a lot of zone from the 49ers next week.
He can only do three things from there. Out, in, or up. With zone the LB can stop the in or up, while the DB is there for the out.
How much zone?
No, but Willis and Bowman haven’t faced a team with two dual threats at the TE position Jack.
Willis if there is a weakness in his game its covering athletic receiving TE’s on deep routes. The 49ers defense will have to tackle on the spot.
MWN,
With Gronkowski out the Patriots don’t have dual threat TE’s. They have 1 TE, Hernandez.
The key to stopping Brady is first stopping the run.
“How much zone?”
More than 50%, with single man blitzes to keep 6 in coverage.
So the 49ers are going to rely on the pass rush to stop the pass game?
Bowman, not Patrick. He’s getting schooled mostbof the time in coverage by the tight end this year.
Yes.
This might seem backwards, but they need to stop the run to stop Brady. If they can keep him from going under center they will have a much easier time stopping this offense.
Couldn’t Brady still dink and dunk to Welker and Woodhead from the shotgun?
Yes, but eventually you will get a sack, or an interception if he gets impatient.
How should the 49ers match up with Hernandez?
Like I said up the thread, in zone you use your LB and DB to double him.
I realized my blunder after I had posted that Jack. However, after seeing the results of tonight’s game I am officially worried. Houston is a very well-balanced team and they just got smoked. The Patriots have the type of players that has given our defense fits throughout the season. They need to be on their A++ game in order to stop the Patriots offense on Sunday night.
MWN,
This is the second time Houston has been blown out this year. Yes New England is tough, but I think our defense can hold them to 23 or less. Going to e a fun one to watch.
Yes it will! :-)
The Pats offense looks great when Brady can sit back and throw, but any offense looks great when that happens. Once the Texans got in his face and started hitting him he went on a 2-10 streak and the Pats went awhile without getting anything going. That’s the key when facing an uptempo offense with so many receivers being involved in the play. You have to make Brady pay for it by hitting him every chance you get.
The Niner defense has to shut down the run which has become an integral part of the Pats offense this year, and get pressure on Brady. Seems like a simple concept but it’s not because of how quickly Brady gets rid of the ball. That means the DB’s have to play up tight on the small receivers and punish them after the catch. Being physical with a finess offense like this is the key to beating them.
I’ve watched Houston’s defense get destroyed a few times this year so it’s not all that surprising it happened last night, but the way they played in the second half as I mentioned above is the key to stopping the Pats offense, or at least slowing it down.
Offensively, Houston played right into the Pats hands by trying to force the ball deep downfield. There were numerous times Schaub had a short receiver open with nobody within 10 yards of him and he forced a deeper throw to AJ. You have to be disciplined when facing a Belichick defense and not force something that isn’t there.
The Pats struggle when they face teams with good pass rush and physical DB’s. The Niners need to be that team this week. They need to run the ball effectively and move Kap around so Wilfork can’t collapse the pocket. If they play their game and don’t make silly mistakes with penalties, I think they have a great shot to knock off the Patriots.
Defense is going to have to be on their toes.
Really Grant…thanks for the knowledge…lol
Grant
You just hit it right on the screws…mismatches and deception to make the opponent think player A is going to be where he’s not..Decoys do the same. Both teams have players of the same caliber, from the same drafts, but one team game plans better than the other and/or is coached better. Notice how NE gets to the line quickly and right into their next play…and we use up our timeouts in the first and third quarters. Is it GR, or JH who’s responsible for getting the play into the QB?
Anytime Brady takes a snap from under the center it is run or play action. The 49ers will need to stop the run with their front 7.
Absolutely. If they can’t stop the runs without help, it will be a long day. I think the run D will be fine, I’m worried about getting pressure on Brady.
The pats are running significantly more and better this year compared to most of Belichick’s tenure. Ridley has 1000+ yrds this year so far. Stopping the run will be important, but Brady’s mastery of that passing offense makes pressuring and hitting him equally as important.
When Brady is “on” the Pats are scary. Hopefully Aldon and Justin can flip the switch to off.
The patriots running game is much improved this season. This is going to be a tough game next Sunday night. Grant please predict the 49ers get blown out. :-)
Punish every reception. Like Mr. Whitner said, it gives them another facter to consider when catching the football.
I loved that “laying the wood” lumberjack picture with Whitner and Goldson. And would somebody please tell all of the TV announcers that there is no “T” in Goldson! Everytime I hear Goldston I want to shoot myself.
Wow I hope the refs aren’t playing for the pats next week
Since the “Real Refs” came back I think they made more bad calls then the replacements.
Hopefully the Pats get all their scoring out tonite and come out flat next week.
This is a prime example you dont need stats to tell you Brady is an elite QB.
He’s got 4 TDs so far… Elite QBs put up numbers.
WhoooooWeee! These Pats are Trouble.
(Note the capital T)
The Patriots are who we think they are. Start Alex. Save Colin from a confidence deflating loss! Just kidding.
Nice one Open. I am so looking forward to seeing CK against a real team.
ROFL. The Bears are still the highest rated defense in the league. CK shredded them.
You Smithers are so desperate. I’ll give you links to Chargers’ blogs so you’ll have a home next year.
No MSC,
They are going the way of Joe Montana. Alex is just like Montana in so many ways, let them tell it. So Alex is headed to Kansas City!
“The Bears loaded up eight and nine men in the box and Kaepernick has burned them repeatedly. This has opened up running lanes, and Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter have subsequently rushed 14 times for 70 yards. They have turned the Bears defense into swiss cheese.”
This is a quote from ninersnation after the 1st half of the Bears game. How hard is it to understand that that’s not what the Bears do when they’re successful?
I’ll bet big money that if we see them again they don’t play it like that! This is a copy cat league and there has not been a defense since copy what the Bears did against us! Hence, Kap hasn’t had a game like that since!
I feel for you MontanaMan. Harbaugh hates you. He benched your QB.
I’m sure you’ll be a fantastic Eagles fan next year.
The Bears are in free-fall, and their defense was a mirage based on a statistical fluke of turnovers and td’s. They won’t even make the playoffs.
Next 2 weeks will be nice measuring sticks to see where the team, and Kaep, are at.
That’s just the facts msc, try not to let the bile still lingering in your throat over the Smith era cloud your perception of what’s going on.
Lol! My qb? Thats funny! Can’t handle the truth?
Fact is, like Angus sad, Bears SUCK! Come up wih an argument insread of cutting people down. Right now I know thats about all you got! That and the Bears!
@msclemons67:
The bears… highest rated defense in the league????
I’m all for the Kapinator, but I got to call you out on that one.
@Dangle the Bears are still the #1 defense by DVOA and one of the top 10 defenses since 1991 by that metric.
Even after CK shredded them.
Houston has been horrible on defense lately. They have been giving up tons of yardage and points. This is no surprise to me. We are playing lights out on defense and we can and will handle New England. New England gets” pistol whipped next week”!
The Texans have been ravaged by injuries. A couple guys starting were signed off the street a few weeks ago. They aren’t the same team they were 4 weeks ago.
We are not going to beat the Pats scoring just 23 points. The Offense will have to sustain drives and score Td’s.
Does that mean some explosive down field bombs?
@ Adam,
Every time I watch Tom Brady dismantle a defense like he is tonight I think of your defense of Alex Smith. You used to throw out all those silly stats to try to show Alex was as accurate as Brady or that Alex was more efficient than Rodgers. I get a good chuckle thinking about that debate with you.
HOU what’s your opinion on Kaepernick?
CK is a great athlete. He makes plays but he doesn’t string plays together consistently. He reminds of a baseball team with a very high team batting average that doesn’t score much because they don’t string hits together in the same inning. He needs to hit multiple singles and then pop a double to score some runners all in the same drive. He’s a young guy that will get better with experience but I still don’t think he’s ready to be the starter on a Superbowl caliber team.
I like that analogy Houston. I think these next 2 games will be nice tests.
Didn’t Kaep lead a 8+ minute drive just a couple games ago, though? One of the longest in the NFL all season?
And since then?
“And since then?”
Yesterday he led a 13 play, 83 yard drive that took 7:26 off the clock and put the 49ers up 20-6. Keep trying….
And no TD passes, keep talking!
Jack – There’s no time for dicking around…….Professor Crab wants that report! :-)
The 9ers are something like 8 for 37 on 3rd down conversions in the last 3 games. I think they may have had a few good drives in those games but they certainly haven’t been consistent on offense. I think CK has been part of that problem. He’s certainly not all of the problem. I am really questioning Roman’s play calling more and more these days. At any rate, My opinion is that CK needs to improve his consistency to take the next step.
I think if Kap plays well enough to win in SEA then things will be pretty settled. That is a ridiculously hard place to play, and the C-chickens are starting to look like what our team is supposed to look like. Plus it will be a primetime game, probably to decide the division winner. Big stage, Big playoff implications, against a Rock Solid defense, in a loud (noice enhanced) stadium.
If we win that game, even if CK puts up Alex-ish numbers, the debate’s pretty much over.
Dangle good point but it begins this Sunday in NE. It won’t be as physical a game as SEA, but mentally could be as difficult to expose a game plan by Belichick.
I think it’s already settled. There’s no way the 9ers can go back to Smith. I’m not sure they should have gone to CK in the first place but that’s water under the bridge. This is CK’s team. I don’t believe Alex Smith can ever lead a team to the Superbowl. We have no idea if CK can ever lead a team to the Superbowl but with each passing weak it looks like CK won’t be able to lead a team to a Superbowl this year. That is unfortunate because every other position group on the team is SB worthy.
Todays Monday night game is going to be what next weeks sunday game will look like. The patriots are going to absolutely slaughter the niners, and we will play the same conservative clock management offense and get embaressed. We have no answers to there stellar recieving core and tight ends. At the end of this game Harbaugh and the 49ers will look absolutely embaressed, just like the texans do tonight.
“And no TD passes”
He had a touchdown run instead.
“Professor Crab wants that report!”
It’s being worked on as I type Professor. Did you not see the breakdown I put together for you regarding what to look for tonight?
Jack no passin TD’s. The QB position requires production in this area. We have 3 capable backs to run the ball.
Houston, It would take injury or a monumental CK collapse for them to go back to alex at this point. I was referring to the “debate” on this blog.
ESPN is praying for their beloved Patriots to play NY Giants in Super Bowl again.
East coast bias ESPN will be promoting that matchup all week now!
Jack – I saw it, the dress rehearsal looked great but now it’s time for the finished product. Pressure
No pressure Crabs. Got 1 game done, and should have a good gameplan for you by early afternoon tomorrow : )
Prime,
I will take a QB producing TD’s any way I can get them.
You rock Jack! Do you ever rest? Lol
Yes, for 3 hours every Sunday Crab ; )
Jack that’s how running QB’s score, by running. You said you coached?
Prime,
the 11 people that berated the Marketing group at Fat Head and lobbied for an AS fathead won’t be calling anymore. Fathead is extremely grateful.
The 15 people that wore smith jerseys to the game no longer know what to do with them. They can use them as a shammie this summer to dry their cars after washing them.
Bay did you hear the boo birds at the Stick yesterday? I did every time CK didn’t convert on 3rd down which was a lot!
Prime,
Running QB, passing QB, I don’t care, just keep putting the ball in the endzone to the tune of 21.7 pts per game, and with this D there will be a lot of wins.
Cheer up buddy, the 49ers WON on Sunday. Good stuff!
Jack was never a coach, he pretends to be a coach just like he pretends to be a blogger.
Prime, you know why Akers broke the 49ers record for most points scored in a season last year? The team couldn’t score touchdowns even though special teams and the defense gave the offense strong field position on a consistent basis. Are you now trying to say it’s Kaep’s fault the offense is struggling at scoring TD’s?
The numbers were what they were. Poor throws as a percentage of incompletions were higher with Brady. It is what it is. Math is math.
I don’t think Harbaugh fears New England. I think he has the staff and players to beat them. Would love an old fashioned snotfest under blizzard conditions.
Announcers just said Bellicheat takes away what the opposing team does best. How will Bellicheat take away our entire defense?
They won’t but he will force CK to make a lot of decisions and try to get an early lead. This will force the Niners out of their patient game and make CK beat them. HOU has an equally good defense as ours and an offense that is light years ahead of ours. We might be 14 pts. dogs by Wednesday.
Houston’s D isn’t as good as advertised. Lots of powder puff opposition in the AFC made them look good. Now, with injuries…..meh. Great running game and play-action, but that’s about it.
Primetrash/welcher,
maybe they should let Smith start this game so that the entire country can see that deer in headlights look he gets.
That would be cruel. Then the two teams that would be interested in him as a backup would lose interest.
Looks like you sound worried Bay that CK might be in over his head with the Patriots playing so well.
A loss might rattle the kid more and start some doubts in the lockerroom towards Harbaugh.
Sorry pal, this is CK’s show now. Sink or swim.
Primescum,
yes it is his show now. And don’t you forget it. It’s the CK show.
I’m worried about this one. NE seems to be a ball hawking defense and CK has already shown a tendancy to hold the ball away from his body, leading to strips and fumbles. He’s also young, so while he hasn’t shown many horrible passing mistakes, I’m concerned that NE’s defense will force him into a pick or two if he’s not careful.
Calistoga,
I never figured you for a bottle half empty kinda guy. Positive man positive.
Our young stud under center needs experience. Realize how much is being thrown at him. He’s gaining experience by the game that is going to help him in the playoffs, next season and beyond.
@bay,then you of all fantasy football fans know that the CK show is BORING! Running QB don’t cut it in the NFL.
Big test this weekend. There will be no excuses after that one.
He’s 3-1 and replaced your man crush 11 Primescum…
And looking worse every game Jimmy! NE is gonna test the kids ability to hold onto the ball. Something he has not done well. You know BB is gonna exploit that.
By allowing the Niners to move the ball but not get TD’s in the redzone and having Akers come out and miss field goals.
where’s Bay’s capital letters?Is’nt he serious tonight?
Randy,
didn’t your dad teach you to be a man. Sack up and use your original post name instead of hiding behind an alias.
You Smithers that hide behind a made up alias are the equivalent of fans that show to watch their pathetic teams with a paper bag over their heads.
once again Bay has created things in his mind…last time I checked I was still Randy…you are the type of fan that derides Smith for well over a year,but now you are this huge 49er supporter…jackass
Randy Bay has dementia!
With the exception of a slumping Akers, that sounds suspiciously like last year’s recipe for beating this team, doesn’t it, DS?
I hope CK is watching this game. Tom Brady’s ball handling is tremendous. The play action fakes are absolutely perfect. CK’s play action fakes are poor to say the least. I lost track of how many times CK fakes a handoff to a side where there is no RB. He keeps both hands on the ball during the play fake and it doesn’t freeze anybody. CK’s ball handling needs some work.
I’ve noticed the phantom hand-offs to the non-existent back too. Lol. Gotta work on that stuff…
CK is a true 49er fan. He’s faking the hand off to the ghost of Joe Perry.
Brady’s been doing it for 13 years, he should be good at it. Kap is in the infant stages and it’ll take awhile until it comes naturally. Right now any question he can put in a defenses mind will do.
Time of possesion is paramont to keep Brady off the field. Sustained drives imperative. Looks like going outside is working for the Texans. The offense this week will have to help the defense.
I am glad the Pats look like they’ll win tonight.
The last thing you want to do is play them after they lose a game. Because like all good teams they don’t lose 2 straight pretty much ever.
This might be 7 in a row for them and don’t look to be slowing down.
If our defense can score some points we might have a chance.
Prime
Are you more confident we can beat NE if they lose tonight? Or if they win?
No the Pats are fighting for playoff seeding as well. BB always has his guys ready in prime time games, as we are witnessing tonight.
Every week is new. This is the time of year where you aim to have back to back solid performances. It will be good test for our new QB and for our coaches to game plan against one of the best.
23jordan/ says:
“Kap is not the answer. Johnson starting by week 6 because he looks so cute in tight pants!”
Can Alex Smith still get a 12-14 million dollar raise?? Only if you 2 dummies give it to him. I told you so!!! Bye Bye. Pack your bags for Kansas City you two blog bums!!
hahahahah…still funny….hahah…
Jordan,
the mental health clinic called. Said they can do a group rate for the Smithers. Said this group is suffering from loss of a loved one. The symptoms,
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
Me, I’m at the acceptance stage. I’ve accepted that Smith is our backup and I’m happy as hell about it….
So angry and bitter? I think that’s anxiety showing that CK is not the real deal. You keep talking about Alex, why?
Rating? I go off your famous eye ball test. You know the one where you make up all kinds of lies.
This is no lie though. CK looks skittish in the pocket with his fumbles, looks gun shy in throwing the ball, and how many times did he audible into a bad play or a timeout?
Now even a moron like you seen all those things rating or not!
Prime,
12-14million???????????? You and your big sister are priceless. I would never want you two to get banned. You bums are hilarious. Alex Smith 12-14 million a year next year. That is bananas!!
Prime,
You’re never gonna kick this thing if you don’t put down the doll. This has really been tough for you guys. Hofer cried like a baby last night. he’s hurt. BS has lost her mind. You are dying a slow death with this thing. You’ve got to move forward. The Chiefs are gonna need you next year. You’ve got LSD coming on here throwing a hissy fit. He thought if he stayed away long enough, his boyfriend Alex would be back. You idiots are like a bunch of groupies following a boy band. I’ve been laughing at you all for a over a year now. I told you Alex Smith was weak and couldn’t win a Super Bowl. I guess JH thought that was as well.
Maybe Kap will get hurt? keep hoping Smithers!
Amazing, you just summarized basic offensive philosophies. Have you received a thank you card yet from Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh? Now that you’ve enlightened them about formations and snap counts, maybe you can lecture Vic Fangio on open field tackling form next week.
Grant has no clue about football.
I thought Houston was supposed to be a good team?
Whenever I see them, they suck.
They are a good team, good teams do play bad.
You mean like when we played the Vikings and the Giants?
They have the Niners number.
or when we played the Rams?Memory loss Bay??
You mean the Rams that were beating AS 14-7 when he hurt his little head? Yeah he was losing. CK brought his team back…
Uhhh Bay, we did lose to the Rams just a couple of weeks ago. Did you forget already?
Spoken like a “true” Niner fan Bay…”hurt his little head”boy I bet you were so happy and giddy that the starter got a concussion so your man crush could play…you are a sad person…
No Calistoga,
I remember the Rams loss. The one where Delainey and Akers cost us the game.
I fully expect both of them to be gone next year. We will draft a tall tight end like Fleener to take his butter fingers place…..
Fleener is not a blocking TE, the 49ers, unless they drastically change philosophies, they will need a good blocking TE who is versatile if DW isn’t back.
I hate all the drops, but I’ve always been a DW fan… “when you get in trouble-you call D.W.”
had nothing to do with a certain pitch…selective memory..Smith hater/not true Niner fan/happy about one of our players getting a concussion
Kaep gave the niners a chance to win with Delainey but a 51yard fg is not automatic, plus the niners wouldn’t be put in that postion if Kaep didn’t give the Rams points in the 1st place.
The Pats take away what you do best on offense.
My bet is they will try to stop the run and dare Kap to beat them thru the air.
The Niners will have to try to throw it down the field and use plays they haven’t this season to confuse the Pats and get them off their game.
So when Smith didn’t throw deep, it’s because he’s a terrible gutless QB but when Kaep doesn’t throw deep, it’s because the staff isn’t using him correctly? Got it.
Despite what the Smith haters thought, this offense is still “what it is” despite the QB change. I laughed at all the morons who thought we would magically start dominating our opponents and scoring 30-40 points a game. ‘It’s a new day! Time to see our offense air it out!’ Really? Oh how dense and shortsighted.
Does Kaep have a stronger arm? Of course. I’m just shocked that a few people on here aren’t calling him a game manager or checkdown king or whatever garbage they used to call Smith. Oh wait, I’m not shocked one bit, since a certain few people on here are complete idiots.
This offense will eventually make strides with Kaepernick, but we will never be a team that throws 50 times a game or bombs it all over the field, despite what some of you simpletons pine for. If you don’t like it, get over it or get a new team.
The guy with 4 starts is already better than you guy after 60+ starts.
Is Kaepernick better than the Brady’s and Bree’s of the league? Nope. Is he better than the bust? Yep.
Who is ‘my guy’ msclemons? Is this comment supposed to upset me?
This might be difficult for your inferior brain to comprehend, but being a Smith supporter doesn’t mean I don’t support Kaepernick. I have been on board with the switch since day 1, just as I’ve been a big Kaepernick fan since the day we drafted him. What I’m not on board with are all the ignorant fans (such as yourself) spouting complete nonsense all the time.
When Kaep hits a few bumps in the road like all young QBs do, I’ll still be here supporting him as much as ever. I just hope you fair weather flip floppers can do the same.
I don’t think CK is better now. And I don’t think you can call what Smith did under MS “starts.”
Alex has the misfortune of being picked first over Aaron Rodgers. There are a lot of #1 QB picks that didn’t pan out. He’s a good dude, and he plays hard. He’s not elite but he’s really not bad.
LSX you got Lemons all wrong. He does not support anything. He already said he does not like Kap. In fact he is only on here to tell us what he hates but nothing football wise to compliment it.
The old man is all piss and vinegar!
I honestly don’t think I have ever seen a relevant post from msclemons. Ever. All he does is make snide remarks about his “precious obsession” Alex Smith.
msclemons, I suggest you start talking football, or stay off here permanently. Seriously, what do you bring to the blog? Do you ever talk football, or do you just run your mouth about our backup QB you hate so much?
LSX, just like Neal. Regardless of the thread or topic, they both feel the need to slam Alex. It must be an escape from their small man syndrome status.
I don’t read anything neal or jordan posts, since it’s all the same worthless unintelligent trash written by immature clowns. It looks like I should consider adding msclemons to my “ignore” list.
Kaep’s not yet better than Smith. He’s playing well, even very well considering his limited experience, and I expect he’ll be consistently better than Smith sooner rather than later.
But he’s not there yet. Obviously.
Good post LSX, I’m putting you on my “read” list ;)
nope…
LSX,
You’re a real football insider. All you clowns know is the crack of Smithsbehind. So in love with a loser because you guys are losers and victims as youngsters. You got bullied and benched. So you feel sorry for him because you were a shell of him. You clowns need to get your head out of his behind before he drags you to Kansas City. On second thought, keep it up there. His behind looks good on your head. Go Alex, Go AWAY .Take your smothers with you.
Oh look, it appears the clown has responded directly to me! How exciting! I suppose I’ll read what Jordan has to say for a change, and see if maybe he’s gained some intelligence or maturity since his previous days as the blog’s laughingstock………..Nope. How silly of me to expect anything more.
What the hell are you even saying? All I see is ‘blah blah blah, I’m an immature douchebag with no football intelligence.’ Seriously, do you even think before you type? I’m not sure if you’re trying to insult me or anger me but you’re failing at whatever you’re trying to accomplish, much like everything else in your life. I honestly feel sorry for you.
You should have left the blog when your boyfriend Josh Johnson got released. Where’s he at now, by the way? Only Jordan would want some worthless journeyman to be our starter, since in Jordan’s own words, ‘Kap isn’t the answer.’
You keep on doing your thing, posting worthless trash and making a mockery out of yourself, I’ll keep ignoring you. I like it better that way. Your comments are an insult to football fans across the country. To put it in perspective for you and your anti-Smith groupies, you’re in the same category as your favorite “Smither” oneniner. That’s pretty pathetic.
Poor LSD,
Who is gonna be your team next year. You get to be a chief instead of an Indian followingAlex Smith around. I told you that loser wouldn’t make it. It also looks like you Smither losers won’t make it either. Funny, you missed the funeral. Did you send flowers. It was really sad. All your fellow Smithers were totally miserable and still are. At least you were smart enough to stay away for a while. Well it’s time to shape up or ship out LSD. Your boy toy Alex has been relegated to the baseball cap. He looks like someone stole his puppy over there on the sideline. Hard to celebrate with your teammates when you don’t contribute.
It’s gonna be a very Merry Christmas. Got what I wanted. Too bad you Smithers didn’t! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Poor LSD. Beat it!
The fact that you continue to post the same nonsense just proves how ignorant you are. Why do you keep talking about Smith? Do you think I’m upset that he’s a backup? Is that supposed to make me mad?
I don’t know if you’re mentally challenged or just a really bad troll, but you’re a complete failure regardless.
Please LSX. Now you’re going to pretend Smith isn’t your guy? After years of excuses?
lemons notice how everyone thinks you are a retard, not just on the blog but in real life too.
Grant – Nice read, good football knowledge!
I said Crabtree was the next Michael Irvin when we drafted him and some people in here laughed. He’s becoming the same player, let’s hope he keeps his nose clean. :-)
The Cowboys want Crabtree when his contract expires, I hope he is appreciated more when the time comes and he stays.
Crabtree was ridiculed in here for a couple years, even though he had legit injuries. He was called a diva by many in here but he has proven over time that he is a good football player. Did you see the stalk block Crabtree made to help CK score? This guy gives his all and is one of the best blocking WR’s in the entire NFL. Even Alex praised Crabtree’s blocking. Some say he never liked Alex, that’s B.S. too. I read a few positive statements where Crabtree praised Alex Smith.
Maybe it’s time to say he is a true #1 receiver now. He’s earned it on the field. Who cares if he’s non-sociable off the field and he sucks at interviews. Crabtree has earned the respect of his teammates, isn’t it time the fans give Crabtree some well deserved recognition?
Crab
I felt Crabs was in kind of a grey area. I never questioned his talents, and yes Crabs is looking like he is a number one receiver. He wants it, I think Moss has a big impact on him. Yes Crabs is a number one receiver.
I think Moss had a huge impact. Crabs is actually a cool dude when you hear his interviews. He’s a gamer. Wants to be better.
I think Moss was a great signing. It ain’t his fault they don’t throw him the ball.
Crab15 – I’m all on board. I had my eyes opened in the 2nd half of last season, once he got healthy. This year, he’s playing at an all-pro level. If he was on a passing team, he’d be in the conversation.
He’s awesome, and every game I watch, he’s becoming one of my favourite players (love me some Bruce Miller too!)
angus – Good to hear that, I’m a huge Bruce Miller fan….Huge!
BTW, what happened to your football picks last week? Did you forget?
yes….
I was a little bit hard on Crabs over the past few years, but watching him go at it, running and scrapping after the catch has been the best parts of the games recently. Good for you/him
Crabs,
I told you that you would see a better Crabtree when you got a better QB! I told you so. He can catch 140 balls a year if you look for him and trust him. Alex couldn’t find Crabtree, because every receiver needs 4 -6 yards of space to be open in his book. That’s what a soft arm and no confidence does for a QB.
Yes sir. I knew that too. Crabs always had it. Yet somehow Smith only managed one pass to a WR in the NFC championship game last year. Oh year, sorry I forgot, it was because a WR never got separation all afternoon lol. Like KW getting free for a bomb and overthrown….. PATHETIC.
I’m sorry but Crab has been playing good all year even when Alex played he was the leading receiver.
Randy the sissy. how many screen names do you have?? I’m sure you’re probably prime. Poor fella!
23J and Bay,
Crabs starting lighting it up mid-way through last year, once he was totally healthy. He’s played well under Smith and Kaep.
You don’t need to make stuff up any more, Smith’s not the QB any more. You can let it go…..
I’m watching the New England Houston game and I think we are gonna get killed up there…
Really? Our ILBs can actually cover. Our secondary isn’t decrepit. The Texans are starting to get pressure; we’ll need that.
Seam routes to Vernon and Delanie look profitable. Can we run? We better!
Wrong, the Texans have been leaking oil for 5 weeks. We have the best defense in the league. We don’t lay down to get embarrassed like that. We will “Pistol Whip New England!”
I think Whitner was right – it’ll be up to the defense to win this game. The Pats’ offense looks like a well-oiled machine. Our team needs to pack it and bring it come Sunday night.
Watching the Pats vs Texans. I am surprised that the Texans aren’t playing with the type of physical presence that they have shown in other games.
Brady will need to have plenty of time to throw against our defense, and I don’t see that happening. Houston is a step to slow tonight.
Their WR’ are going to get blown-up against our DB’ and our pass defense is going to make Brady running for cover.
This is the perfect stage for the 49ers to make a statement and put themselves at the top as the league’s elite team.
I’m pumped up for this game!
I believe that we will dominate the Pats and set them on the same path that put the Bears on.
+1
I’m not convinced our OLine can pass protect long enough for Kaep to throw anything past 10 yards, consistently. It seems like the best way to beat us is to line your best pass rusher on A Davis every down. Rinse. Wash. Revolving door (repeat).
Are you serious? Anthony Davis has been one of our beat offensive lineman all year. He had an average game against one of the best pass rushers in the league. He recovered the fumble that CK dropped on the first series. He might be worthy of a pro bowl nomintion.
The line sucks right now cause their learning a new cadence and play calling. Don’t blame them. They have been the best unit next to the LB’s on the team.
Primescum/welcher is partly right. Anthony Davis has actually improved at least on his false starts. He still has issues with speed rushers. I don’t think he will be the right tackle next year. There are several free agents next year. I personally would love to get Long from Miami. And since we will have an extra 7.5 million lol.
Mike Iupati is our most penalized offensive lineman.
Anthony Davis is not going anywhere. He is young and improving every game, unlike another young talent who is regressing.
With the way Long played this year I’d still rather have Staley and Davis as the tackles next year.
Well since I’ve been pretty much right about everything like your crush carrying a clipboard, I bet Anthony Davis loses the right tackle spot next year.
The best pass-rushers in the game, are referred to as such for good reasons. They get theirs regardless of the Oline they face. Just like When Staley struggled against Clay Mathews, people trashed him for a week or two. Nonsense! Clay Mathews is a beast and Staley held up for the most part but got beaten a few times. D-Ware is a beast, JJ watt is a beast, Aldon Smith is a beast, that redneck on the vikings is a beast. Just because they beat their Olineman for a sack or two does not mean that guy is garbage.
I’d like Vollmer or Clady. Both are better pass protectors.
Ok, I’ll moderate my stance a bit. A Davis has the capability of being a good, maybe even very good RT. But when you give up 3 sacks and several pressures in a half to the same guy, as he did in this past game, it’s gotta make you think, doesn’t it?
And yeah, I also saw the reports of him grading out well earlier in the season. What happened since then? C’mon young man, you can do this!
Oh and, this was Cameron Wake, a good player sure, but not one generally on the tip of the tongue when discussing the best pass rushers in the league.
It looked to me like Kaep faced a LOT of pressure this, and last, game. This OLine is built to go forward, not anchor and block… like the Pats’ line I just watched last night, for instance.
@bay your nuts if you think Davis won’t be the rt next year he might make the pro bowl this year
The offense is set to run, this is not a QB driven offense, that being said, CK makes some nice throws outside the nubers that AS could only dream about. Harbaugh got to the biggest con-man when he said that Roman always calls great games, CAN’T bear to watch another presser again without rolling my eyes.
NFL game of the year next week fellas!! Niners vs ESPN’s beloved Patriots.
Maybe we will get some airtime now.
Texans getting embarrassed, now the Cowgirls will think they’re the best team in Texas again.
Damn, that Bon Jovi song “This is our house” Pats play after every TD is really fricking annoying!
You really want a piece of the Pats you Niners homers?
new england douchebag says what?
Go back to your worthless redsocks you pansy
Patriot fan Jim is in the house. That Bon Jovi song is my favorite Jim, it’s intimidating.
♪♪ Are we gonna raise the roof? (Oh yeah)
Are we gonna touch the sky? (Hell yeah)
Everybody with me let me hear you now
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
This is our house
These are my people, mister, this is my town
This is our house
Ain’t nobody know we’re gonna knock it down
(Oh whoa oh oh oh oh oh)
This is our house
(Oh whoa oh oh oh oh oh) ♪♪
Lol!
Jim,
No, we’re gonna kick the Patriots ass son!
With a running QB that will be game planned by the best coach in football? Buwhahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!
Prime,
You wanna bet on the game sissy?
What do you wanna bet? That CK runs for 200 yards and passes for 100? Buwhahahahhahahaha!!!!!
I’ll take that prime. I’ll also bet you that Alexx doesn’t put his helmet on all game!!! Lol
I’ll take that bet, Jordo – it’s gonna be COLD for those guys not in the game on the sidelines in Foxboro!
What worries me about the Patriots is the no huddle. Practice won’t be fun this week. Lots to prepare for.
the 49ers D line already doesn’t substitute much as it is, and wearing out those big guys is usually one of the things that no-huddles thrive on. Our base D offers a lot of flexibilty, especially with what our inside backers can do, and the nickel defense might be our best package, with an extra DB and aldon as DE. They should still be able to stop the run with that formation.
Agreed. It’s still an effective tool for them.
The teams that have the most success against Brady put some hits on him early. When Brady gets in a groove, it’s a long day….
I’m wondering how the cheaters are going to stop Aldon Smith. I look for Smith to knock Brady out of the game.
Didn’t see anyone post this but the 49er Seahawk game got flexed to Sunday night.
Colin Kaepernick is just a running QB who can’t figure out the complexity of NFL defenses. Nevermind him graduating with a 4.1 in high school ( he must of have taken only wood shop, auto mechanics & P.E. for class) , getting an offer to play baseball at Ivy League schools, scoring 35 on the wonderlic ( you get 20 points on it by just spelling your name right), or the fact that he goes through his progressions. Nope, he is just a running QB, which is a euphemism for superior Black athleticism, but inferior intellect.
What a moronic borderline racist post. BTW – Steve Young was also primarily known as a running QB but he didn’t look very black to me.
Steve Young, Bobby Douglass, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Theismann, Steve Grogan……..these running QBs were just a bit paler than some others I guess.
Colin is kind of smart as a matter of fact. Evidently a good bit smarter than you are, Foaming.
You are an idiot…
I don’t know what classes CK took but you certainly skipped a lot of English classes. It should be “Must have” and not “must of” you idiot.
A racist is bad, An ignorant racist is worse, but a dumb ignorant racist is the lowest of the low.
Go crawl back under you rock.
Foaming, I see what you did there. Nice post. Slipped it right by the folks posting above me.
LOL! Tom Brady scored lower (33) than Kap on wonderlick score. Kap scored 37 not 35….Nice job
Why is Mr. Automatic the only one to recognize the sarcasm in Foamingatdamouth’s comment?
Because of what he said at the end claude
Had he not said that, it would be sarcasm. As it is, it isn’t. Sarcasm shouldn’t involve anything racial. Especially in print.
Because Claude,
some folks score high on the wonderlic and some people score low on the wonderlic.
BS anything that involves sarcasm and social interaction you should shy away from….
DS,
I bet you are a barrel of laughs at parties. Loosen up with the PC attitude. It was a sarcastic post that was intended to show how stupid it is to stereotype a player.
Tell everybody who replied in a negative tone to the post rocket. Claude asked, I gave an answer. You didn’t much pay attention to the “print” part of my reply at all.
And the people I enjoy don’t generally make such comments as the last bit. The first part, yes. Had it ended there I would have put a +1.
If your friends do the last bit, then you wouldn’t understand. Not everybody laughs at the same jokes rocket. If you didn’t know that before reading the thread you should know that now. So don’t expect everybody to laugh along with you.
Ok DS if it makes you feel better:
Rick, Brotha Tuna, Ip Daily, Chewie:
I bet you are a barrel of laughs at parties. Loosen up with the PC attitude. It was a sarcastic post that was intended to show how stupid it is to stereotype a player.
DS, I think you missed his point. He was replying to your “print” part of you post.
Hey Rocket. I’m no ‘Church Lady’, ok? I’m fine at a party as a matter of fact, at least until somebody unleashes some “inferior intellect” stuff directed at any gouping. Is that humorous sarcasm? Ironic sarcasm? Even if so intended its treading thin ice at a party or on a public forum.
PC? Maybe. I guess I’m old enough I call it good manners.
That makes no sense then jsand. If rocket was going off the written part, his “party” point is out of place. Since one doesn’t have the written word at a party. At a party you have the spoken word.
Along with all the body movement cues to help the listener at a party. On a blog you don’t. So the written word is all you have to go off of. Thus you need to be much more careful here than you would at a party. Sarcasm is good. Anyyhing which can be interpreted as racism isn’t.
I guess he forgot the blog sarcasm symbol: ;)
One of my best friends is black.
that’s racist claude, ;)
lol ..sorry meant “crab”
uhhh a hornets nest is awakened because people can’t understand intent from the written word.
Brotha Tuna, I was being sarcastic in response to DS, and the post from foamingatdamouth you and a few others got bent out of shape about is a clearly a sarcastic post relating to the stereotypes that have been put on players for years.
Everybody needs to lighten up and read carefully before responding…or you can continue to misunderstand and overreact. It’s up to you.
rocket
Please provide your own answer to claudes question. What is the reason? Even if you don’t think it is legit. I think my answer was the correct answer to his question.
@ DS:
Because of what he said at the end claude
Not that rocket didn’t already cover this, but the sentence at the end of Foaming’s post was the whole point of his comment. With that sentence, he was asserting that those who label Kaep as merely a “running QB” do so out of racism/ignorant stereotyping.
Sarcasm shouldn’t involve anything racial. Especially in print.
That’s just silly. What if, as in this case, the sarcasm was used to call out others for being racist/racially insensitive? Do you also believe that Huckleberry Finn should be censored/cleaned up/not taught in school?
That book was written a long time ago by quite the outspoken civil rights man of his day.
That is a HUGE difference.
To answer your question, “No.” the book should still be allowed in schools.
No one needs to answer my question because it was a rhetorical question meant to chastise those commenters who missed the obvious sarcasm in Foaming’s comment.
Claude,
Personally, I chalk it up to poor reading comprehension skills combined with hypersensitivity to controversial comments and knee-jerk reactionism, intermixed with a significant dose of defensiveness. I have taught college writing for nearly fifteen years now, and I have been a practicing attorney for six, and I see these tendencies from both my students and from other attorneys. I believe the rapid nature of much of our current written communication, where scoring a point fast is preferred over careful deliberation, is a significant impetus for these tendencies, but the vitriolic posturing that dominates the media may also be contributory.
In my reading of it, Foamingatdamouth’s post is actually ridiculing racial stereotyping while calling out the perceived implicit bias in those who only cite non-white running QBs in comparison to other non-white running QBs. It is a shame many readers were too quick in reading and reacting to it without applying any critical thinking skills. Too often, the charge of racism against a comment that involves racial issues (but is not racist on its face, i.e. does not invoke racially charged slurs and/or invective) is more a result of defensiveness on the part of the proponent of the charge rather than a result of progressive thought.
Ahh… this has become a prime example of one of my points — the rapid nature of this medium of communication rendered my more deliberate post moot by the time I posted it. ;)
@ JPN001:
Great comment. I would add only that many people today seem desperate to claim the moral high ground over others and look for any chance to do so, whether or not it is warranted.
Please stick around. The blog could stand to have its average IQ raised.
If you actually read the whole thing, in its context, its obvious that its intended to be sarcastic. Its easy to pick out the first and last line from the post and conveniently-quickly label it as racist. When you read the meat of it, it’s not hard to see it as a commentary of certain people on here and people in general. You don’t need to show mannerisms or “body movement cues” to have sarcasm seep. The people that don’t get it, just wont and never will.
The more intelligent folk got that… But thanks for clarifying.
I apologize to Foamingatthemouth. After reading his post again, I do see it is meant to be sarcastic. I overeacted.
I think it was his use of the word “of” instead of “have” which set me off. It is one of my pet peeves. I see so many people doing it in print and as an English major it drives me up the wall.
I see now that Foaming threw in the “must of” as a sarcastic comment on the stupidity of the type of people who stereotype African American athletes.
I have learned a lesson from this. Never react to a post you read first thing in the morning before finishng your morning coffee. let the java do its work to wake up the brain cells.
Sorry.
The elephant in the room = It’s funny nobody here including Grant is willing to bet we make the superbowl with CK at QB.
Offense has regressed since change in QB.
The season is over, the rest is a tease. We make the playoffs and lose.
Well I guess you don’t have to watch anymore games…..
What a game! It’s clear that the Patriots are going to show a mixed soft zone coverage defense to CK just like what St. Louis did. CK will be seeing no more easy 2 deep zone Ds like what the Bear threw at him. What the Niners need is a good slot guy to find holes in the zone. Will MM make it back in time, or are they stuck with no catch Jenkins? The game will be competitive. Pats got some very lucky bounces and some extremely favorable calls from the refs.
What do you expect. Brady got hurt and before the next game was played that kind of hit which I called hustling, was illegal. Pathetic NFL.
I was shocked the refs didn’t throw a flag when Brady scrambled and a defender fell on him as he slid toward the end of the first half. I mean, that’s Tom-frikkin’-Brady right there! Gotta protect the golden goose!
Well they did throw the flag on that PI where the WR was barely touched by the sleeve of the Houston defender (Manningham I think it was).
Brady and the Pats are the NFL’s love child. Sickening that it was perfectly ok for AS to get knocked in the head so hard his helmet turns 90 and he’s throwing looking out his earhole and that doesn’t get a penalty.
Brady and the Pats are gonna get the calls against us too. We just need to accept that and limit the self inflicted calls like the false starts. I cant wait for us to put some hits on Brady and hopefully Aldon can get to him at least once.
I wonder if Keap would benefit from more plays in which he reads short to long (a la Walsh’s WCO) vs long to short. He looks a little slow moving through his progressions and reading the other way around more of the time might help move the D’s out of their preferred scheme. It would also help the pass protection.
Kaep does a good job getting through the reads despite being slowed by what I see as his confusion in doing so. However, since I am only watching on TV, I could be wrong about what is going on. Maybe Jack can tell.
As for NE, it seems we have at least three major challenges going in:
1. NE often uses a speed snap and lately our D seems to be very slow
getting set;
2. When Brady gets time, he eats people up. Our pass rush has been
slow all year;
3. Belichick will give Kaep all sorts of false reads. That’s how the Rams
held the offense to 13 pts in 5 quarters.
I’m sure the coaches know all this and much more. I bet they have been holding some stuff back for these next two weeks of big late-season games. They did that last year (the Red Zone play calls changed vs PIT, etc.) and I suspect that part of Harbaugh’s thinking in moving to Kaep had to do with this game.
Hopefully the team will be like those of the Walsh era: a desultory performance at home vs a weak opponent and then a big performance on the road vs a top opponent.
Sorry, but I see the commnets above and wonder first:
Why do some of you guys have such clueless hate?
Second, do you really think Houston is a bad team?? They have a great record, a killer run offense and a great defense. Sorta like us and I understand they have injuries but not so many as to get creamed on Monday Night Football.
The Pats have killed two teams in a row damn near putting 60 points on the board against the Colts — and have really come on since their bye. If you think we can beat them, great. I think we will lose by three touchdowns because we don’t match up with them at all.
I hope I’m wrong, but the Patriots are the gold standard of NFL play. Last night they played like vintage Walsh football. They were so far ahead of Houston in all aspects of the game it wans’t funny.
Yeah I see the typos too… -L-
When I watch them, they suck. They lost to the Raiders last year. I mean…WOW! You have to suck to lose to them.
They are an AFC team in a division I couldn’t care less about so I admit they aren’t on my radar.
I.P. Daily,
You are reacting to what you saw last night without breaking down why it happened. Look at the Texans last few games and you’ll see they are getting ripped in the passing game. Their defense has been on a downward slide for awhile now and the Pats took them apart. So did Detroit and wait for it….Jacksonville. You can’t just watch a game and say they will kick the Niners asses around the field. How many times have you seen the niners blown out by 3 TD’s under the current Coaching regime? They could lose the game obviously, but it’s not going to look like the game last night and the Niners will give them a battle like they haven’t seen yet this season. The physicality the Niners play with can’t be duplicated until a team plays them. The Pats are going to get a rude awakening in 6 days.
The Patriots will not be able to run on us. Brady will throw 40-50 passes which is what we want him to do.
Our pass rush will cause turnovers by way of fumbles and INT’s.
The Texans did not play their usual physical game last night. Maybe they feel that they will play the Pats in the playoffs and wanted to give them a false sense of confidence?
We are going to be the most physical team that they have played to date.
They best enjoy their victory all week, because the 49ers hit parade is coming to town.
Brady throwing 40-50 passes means our offense needs to score at least 4 tds
How’s that crow….
I like your positive thinking, AES! ‘Hope you’re right on all counts.
I do believe the offense is going to have to play lights out. Not just scoring points but they must have long, time consuming drives. It will be up to the offense to keep Brady off the field. Brady looked razor sharp last nite. The defense is going to have its hands full. Offense can not be having a 2-10 on third downs. CK is going to have to play better then he did during the Bears game in which he was outstanding for the Niners to win this game.
23-21 49ers…
I was thinking 24-21 Niners.
I was thinking 34-9 Pats…
Come on IP
The Pats D isn’t that good. CK will get more than 9.
I have a feeling it will be a high scoring game. My prediction is 41-40 Niners.
I see the niners playing keep away and winning 20-10
49ers, 26-10
Next topic if you please sir.
Since the discourse on this blog has once again descended into drivel, I don’t mind going off topic a bit:
Whats UP with this?
My wife has some lady friends she gets together with once a month to talk over dinner. Cool. So their December meeting they’ve always decided should include their hubbies too. Uh, well, OK. Not sure of the logic, but these people are nice enough.
So this year they schedule for next Sunday afternoon/evening. And of course, my wife accepts. Why Sunday night? Why not Saturday night? Then they decide we should join in their gift exchange of Christmas Tree ornaments. Yeah, well I said NO, and I guess all the other guys did too. We’re not about to go shopping for gifts for our wives’ friends’ husbands, who the only thing we have in common is that our wives are friends with each other. JFC!
So then the hostess thinks we guys are being disadvantaged by not getting ornaments, so she tells the girls to have the guys each bring a bottle of wine to exchange with the other guys, and all the wives agree. Some of these guys don’t much like wine!! She said she wanted to “do something nice for the guys”, but that’s BS, because if they really wanted to do something nice they’d let us stay home and watch the flippin’ game!
They did a girls overnight out at Bodega Bay in the summer, and they tried to arrange for the guys to get together for dinner somewhere else. WTF? Didn’t happen.
LOL! What IS up with that?!?
FYI,
the lady that came up with that idea was the one that didn’t trust her husband much while she was away overnight lol.
brotha
It’s a meeting in the middle of the holidays and they want to include their husbands as well. And historically, bringing a bottle of wine is a traditional gift. Even if some don’t drink it. “It’s the thought that counts” sorta thing.
No biggie at all.
Brotha,
The question you’ve got to ask yourself is…..will you have access to a television? If you do, hope to god that you can get some of the other guys to insist that the guys watch the game, then crack out the wine, and it’s all good! If you don’t have access to a tv? I shudder at the prospect.
I feel for you though. My wife’s parents are always inviting us over for Sunday dinner (9er games are typically 4:25 – 7:30 here), smack in the middle of the game…..sigh…….
Look if you are an old man like me you grew up learning that if something seems or feels like it’s the wrong thing to do always remember that you can: Just Say No!
Thank you Nancy Reagan.
Tuna – NFL game of the year on national TV!
Sometimes you gotta say “what the #*#*!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geDCtBQeN8c
Hahahaha! Thanks everybody for the sympathy!
Yes, fortunately the other hubbies are normal males, we will have the game on in ‘the other room’, and these ladies know that they’ll be in one room and we’ll be in the other……..which brings up the point: So why do we need to be there? LOL
And DS, yeah, I don’t show up empty handed, I like wine so I always bring some to share, but for a contrived gift exchange…?
Don’t get me wrong, its just an eyeball roller, not huge.
Oh, and look at the diverse group that came together on this post here in our Rumpus Room! Heeheehee.
Happy Holidays to all!
From Tuna-The-Grinch! : > )
Oh man, Tuna, they’re trying to domesticate you guys.
Savage! Just not right. Soon they’ll want you to get manicures and all kinds of other girly stuff.
Resist.
And we’re all some old dogs, can’t teach us new tricks!
Grant I take issue with your point that football is a relativley simple game. It is not, baseball is a simple game, basketball is not as simple as baseball but simpler than football. Football is a complex game. Fans and the Media like to use phrases like its not rocket science so then they can criticize coaches decisions like they have a clue what they are talking about. I coached 25 yrs primarily basketball and baseball but i did coach football for 6 yrs 5 at the hs level 1 at juco so i have a decent working knowledge of football coaching theory. at least i thought i did untill i saw bill walsh speak at a coaching clinic he had me so confused in about 5 mins that i put my pencil down, luckily the HC i went with was able to keep up. I’m not sure if you saw Mark Cuban and Skip Bayless on the morning espn show earlier this year. Cuban began asking bayless about match up zones within a minute Bayless was babbling like an idiot and eventually sat back in his chair with a vacant smile on his face and was silent. My point is we all have opinions about coaching decisions or play call choices etc. etc. but to think that any of us understand football X’s and O’s at the NFL level is just silly. IMHO
Coach – Baseball is a simple game? C’mon Pops! :)
You hit the ball you throw the ball you catch the ball sometimes you win sometimes you lose and sometimes it rains…….Crash Davis
coach – I was actually drafted 2 rounds ahead of Bo Jackson in 1985 MLB draft. The scouts missed the boat on that one. Lol……..
Bo was drafted by Angels but did not sign in 85. He was drafted again and signed by Royals in 1986.
I know a couple things about the sport. :)
Coach,
if you’re comparing the actual playing of baseball to playing of football, as an athlete, then your wrong. I don’t think anyone would argue that coaching football schemes, game plans, tactics and the assemblage of the team carrying it out is immensely more difficult. But they are two different sports Baseball is anything but easy to play or coach.
jsand – Good point, coaching and playing are completely different.
It appears to me, Coach was referring to coaching only.
Football is tougher to coach, baseball is more difficult to play and be successful at it. I’ve played both that’s my two cents.
bay – Which did you prefer to play?
Football. I had more success at it. In BB I couldn’t hit offspeed to save my life.
I also didn’t have very good coaching when I played baseball.
I had really good football coaches. Gary Plumber was our linebackers coach one year in between USFL and NFL….
bay – Plummer took the monkey of Steve Young’s back.
Deion had a little something to do with that too….
So did Ricky Waters.
“Number One: Kaepernick cannot throw what Greg Roman doesn’t call.
Number Two: if Roman continually calls for the deeper ball (patterns or individual routes) on obvious passing downs and distances, chances are the opposing defensive coordinator is going to play a secondary coverage shell that will “discourage” Kaepernick from attempting to push the ball down the field or from holding it long enough for the free-release receivers to get even with or beyond the deepest of the secondary.”
I agree with all this but a lot of this has been brought up in the Smith discussions as well and it’s generally dismissed by the haters as excuses.
Seems to me that whatever is good for one is good for the other, no? Or are there a separate set of circumstances happening here that I’m not seeing?
Adam
Who cares what the haters say? The main point is Grant doing it. When was the last time AS lost a game and got a C-?
I don’t have a problem with the assessment. I agree with him. But I remember when this type of thing was dismissed as an excuse. Eric used to post these types of things as well.
I think the reality is that it takes a team to win and that if there are weaknesses in certain areas there is only so much a QB can do.
I remember one of our first discussions about the QB and his role. How he is the most important player but also the one most dependant on others. Like the OL to give him time and the WR’s to get open.
Helmet, where are you? Ah, there you are.
Crabs that is a quote from the greatest Baseball movie of all time Bull Durham it starts with “baseball is a simple game”
Coach – One day I’m drafted pro ahead of Bo Jackson. The next day I’m a
Crab, blog fighting with a person named DS94everXev. :-)
The ups and downs of life…Lol
I have not seen Bull Durham in many years, loved it though.
LMAO!! That’s hilarious Crab! Unlike Bo, DS don’t know…
Very pro of you Jack. Sad part is you think you know but don’t.
Poor BS….
DS – I crossed the line the other night, Grant was correct to delete my posts.
Lameareafanatic what’s your obsession with DS?
I actually had some fun with it with my replies. It let me get creative. Something the topics here rarely permit.
Prime- Great question. Don’t expect an answer though. At least a thoughtful one.
JS i agree about playing baseball hitting a curveball is the hardest thing to do in sport. If i could have hit the curveball i would have been in the major leagues but thats the same story as pretty much everyone who could’nt play past H.S.