By PHIL BARBER
Before leaving for New Orleans, I spoke by phone with Matt Millen, who has been doing TV work for both ESPN and NFL Network of late. It was for a story I wrote on the 49ers linebackers, asking whether they should be considered among the greatest linebacking corps in history. The story will appear in The Press Democrat’s Super Bowl special section.
Matt was very gracious with his time, and warmed to the subject. He played linebacker for 12 NFL seasons, won four Super Bowls with three teams, was GM of the Lions for seven years (I know, that one didn’t go well) and has stayed very close to the game since then. Few people are more qualified to rate NFL linebackers.
Here are excerpts of my interview with Millen, which I found fascinating:
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE 49ERS LINEBACKERS?
Millen: “Two years ago I started watching ’em, but they weren’t there yet. Last year, when NaVorro (Bowman) became a full-time starter and had Ahmad Brooks on the outside, and then they added Aldon Smith to the right side – well, the first thing that became clear right away, I’d always been a Patrick Willis fan. But NaVorro Bowman passed him. NaVorro Bowman is the best linebacker in the league. I shouldn’t say it’s not even close. It’s close. But he does some things better than Patrick. And Patrick does a couple things better than he does. But overall, in their game, he disengages quicker, he has a little more violence in his hands. But as an inside backer, he’s the best there is. I said that last year, and I said it reluctantly in the middle of the season, because you really want to see it over time. And now this is the second straight year I’m seeing the same things, and I’m not the only one seeing it. There’s a lot of people out there seeing the same thing.”
HOW DO THE 49ERS BACKERS COMPARE TO GREAT UNITS OF THE PAST?
Millen: “When you look at the group – and I’m looking back. When I say ‘this time,’ I mean this time frame with these rules, the way the game’s played now. This is the best group that I’ve seen in – I can’t even … trying to think back. In this era, say the last 10 years, I can’t think of a better unit. And when I go back 20 years, think back to with Mike (Singletary) in Chicago, with Wilber (Marshall) – gee, that’s about 30 years already – and Otis (Wilson), that was a good group. That was a really good group. And I think back to the Giants. Lawrence Taylor was the greatest player. Forget linebacker, Lawrence Taylor was the best player I’ve ever seen. … He changed the way the game’s played. But when he was in New York, (Gary) Reasons was just a guy, Harry Carson’s better days were past him. He still made all-pro, but that was more a function of New York.
“Now the Saints had a group, with Rickey Jackson on one side, (Pat) Swilling on the other, and then Sam (Mills) on the inside, and Vaughan Johnson. That was a really good group. As a crew, that was as good as it got. And this group is better. For me, this might be the best group of linebackers that I’ve seen in probably 35 to 40 years. I can’t think of a better group.”
BREAK THEM DOWN INDIVIDUALLY FOR ME
Millen: “Patrick leads the group. He holds the flag for the group. The guy who is in the No. 4 position, if you ask most people they’d say Ahmad Brooks. I just did a piece on Ahmad Brooks the other day. Ahmad Brooks had a phenomenal year. He played that position as good or better than anybody in the league. He’s not a pass rusher, per se, but he gets pressure. He defends his edge as well as anybody. He can play with power, he can put his hand in the dirt. He can drop. This is what Cincinnati was hoping they were gonna get. So he’s there finally.
“Really, to me, the weakest of the four is Aldon Smith. He’s not close to where he’s going to be. He needs seasoning. But what he can do is rush the passer. But right now, he’s not a guy who can consistently do it all by himself. Right now he’s a function of Justin (Smith). When Justin’s on, he’s really good. He needs to get to the place where it doesn’t matter where he is, he’s gonna beat anybody. He’s talented enough to beat any right tackle in the league. He needs to be talented enough, stand-alone-wise, to beat any left tackle in the league. And there are some that give him problems. And he’s figuring some things out. He’s still trying to get his motor down where it should be all the time. His pass drops aren’t great yet, but he’ll get better. Most linebackers don’t really figure it out until probably year 4 or 5 in terms of drops.
“That’s what sets NaVorro apart. Probably the two best that I’ve watched all season played on the same team together in college (at Penn State). He and Sean Lee (of the Dallas Cowboys) are phenomenal. They’ve got great sense in their pass drops. They have good vision, they anticipate well, peripherally they see things. They do a nice job naturally of locating receivers in their area and playing to them. They anticipate crossing routes well, they understand if someone’s giving ’em the cheese underneath, to not bite; they stay deep. They are exceptional, both of ’em.”
WHAT WAS THE BEST GROUP OF LINEBACKERS YOU WERE A PART OF?
Millen: “The best group we had (with the Raiders), Ted (Hendricks) is in the Hall of Fame, Rod Martin was defensive player of the year, I was at a Pro Bowl level, and Bob Nelson was a big, solid tough guy playing the weak, the Will backer. Bob was 250 pounds. That was probably our best group. But it was a different game than is played now. . . . The schemes aren’t the same. . . . Bob Nelson couldn’t play the Will now. Your linebackers have to run a little bit better than they did previously. They’re not standing in a gap, manning things up.”
We talked scheme, too, with Millen saying that the teams that had the most success against the 49ers defense — in his eyes, the Giants and Seahawks — came at the Niners with aggressive combination blocks and caught those linebackers being a bit passive. He thinks the Ravens will pose a challenge in that regard.
Finally, one more interesting tidbit. Millen and NFL Network researcher Matt Hamilton, seeking to find a substitute for the tackles statistic (which Millen calls worthless), looked at EVERY SINGLE PLAY by an inside linebacker in the NFL this year, and counted what they called “impact tackles”: tackles on gains of 3 yards or less, tackles for loss, sacks or fumbles, or tackles on third or fourth down if they stopped the conversion.
The NFL leader might surprise you: Seattle’s Bobby Wagner. Bowman was second, just two tackles behind Wagner. Millen said Willis was fourth or fifth.


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being on the older end of this blog i still have a special place in my heart for the old 4-3 linebackers of the 50′s 60′s and early 70′s Butkus Nitschke, Huff, Bednerick. Schmidt or my favorite Dave Wilcox
Interesting but if Smith being last was the “surprise” you alluded to then I gotta say I’m not all that surprised. He’s the youngest and the rawest of the group there’s no reason for him to not be considered the least of that unit at the moment.
Reason to ding Matt Millen, maybe not, but I’m still gonna ding Matt Millen…
Great player!
Lousy announcer!!
Absolutely pathetic GM!!!
Why take his word for it? Can you interview, say Trent Baalke, or one of the great talent evaluators and get back to us? Thaaaaaaaaaanks…
Come on Mr. E, Millen knows a thing or two about linebacking. His comments are spot on about Bowman, Willis, Brooks, and Smith. His statement about aggressive combo blocks giving Niners trouble are really interesting. It remains to be seen if the Ravens use the same tactic.
Thanks for the great post Phil. I really enjoyed reading it.
Millen was spot on with his analysis imo. Brooks has been the least heralded of the group but has done a great job setting the edge and being a consistent source of pressure. Aldon has the most natural talent of the group but is also the rawest in terms of knowledge of the position. He’s doing it on natural instincts and talent right now. Once he actually gains a mental edge it’s going to be scary. Bowman and Willis are on the same level to me. I think what happened when Bowman became a starter is that Willis didn’t have to go sideline to sideline anymore like he had to when he first came into the league. He used to have to make up for shortcomings of others whereas now he’s got a guy next to him who is a carbon copy of himself. It’s a luxury to have these guys for sure.
I think Aldon also needs up up his motor and increase his aggressiveness on tackling backs. When have you every seen him hit one in the mouth? He tackles them aggressively in pursuit and grabs them when they come his way, but never a smashing blow.
He likes to deliver a blow to stationary pass protecting O-linemen from time to time, but not so much on NFL running backs it seems.
The motor also seems suspect at times. Perhaps he’s been injured, but he looks like he’s doing nothing but standing there at times, especially towards the end of the season. Maybe more conditioning?
That said…I expect him to be a force this game, particularly if Justin can remain a force in there.
Mr. Millen is spot on in his analysis in my opinion. Good article, thanks.
Great article Phil. Thanks!
First things first Navarro is a phenomenal, no knock against him, but the only reason Patrick doesn’t look as good as him is because he has to cover tight ends rather than sitting in a zone in the middle of the field. He also doesn’t cover running backs as much.
Agreed, but Navarro does seem a bit faster and aggressive, while Patrick seems a bigger physical specimen with slightly better instincts.
I said this before the Falcon game. Bowman is definiteltly better than willis. Bowman’s coverage skills are far superior than Willis. Willis does not get his head turned around in coverage. Im happy they arw both Niners!
23J – P Willy is a beast but I have to agree with you that Bowman’s a better overall player (not by much). You nailed it with the comment about Willis not getting head turned.
I think Willis is better in coverage, he has to cover the TE straight up often, while Bowman is covering zones, which allows better reactions in the pass game. Where I see the difference is short area quickness, NB has PW there. Willis is more of a straight line speed guy, flawless technique, Bowman seems to pack a ‘little’ more punch.
I think bowman is a better natural pass rusher, probably having to do with the short area quickness you mentioned.
I think we can all agree that they are the best linebackers period in all of football
+1
Although before Beason got hurt a couple years ago, I thought he was going to give Patrick a run for his money. That dude was a beast!