NFL.com just reported the 49ers are “highly interested” in trading for the New York Jets’ 27-year-old three-time All Pro cornerback Darrelle Revis.
The 49ers are not the only team that wants Revis. The Seahawks, Broncos, Packers, Patriots and Bills are also reportedly interested.
The Jets apparently want draft picks in return for Revis. The 49ers have a first round pick, a second round pick and two 2013 third round picks they can offer the Jets.
Do you think the 49ers should trade for Revis? Carlos Rogers will be 32 years old next season, and he seems to be declining. On the other hands, Revis tore his ACL back in Week 3, and he will be a free agent after next season.
How much do you think the 49ers really covet Revis? What do you think the 49ers would have to trade to land him?
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Having Revis culliver and brown? I don’t think that would be fair to the nfl.
How about Alex and Carlos for Revis? Keep the draft picks.
That’s a good call. The Jets need a QB and Alex would be a good piece to dangle in trade talks. but, I’m not sold on Revis. He’s injury prone and will be commanding a big contract.
That’s too much for a CB coming off an ACL. I’d give Alex Smith for Revis & a 3rd round pick. QBs are worth more than every other position on the field and One could argue Alex has top 10 numbers.
I agree…the first thing that came to mind was Alex Smith and a 3rd round pick. MAYBE a 3rd that could be a conditional 2nd since Revis is still young and one of the best at his position.
The 49ers had 6 of 11 Pro Bowl starters on NFC defense when they play a 3-4. Revis would be 7 of 11 starters.
We don’t want or need him we need that $ for our o line. If we want a good db we can trade up and grab one. I don’t like revis and he will hurt our team first mind set. He don’t care about a SB. As long as he gets his $! That would stop us from keeping our team together. We need to keep spending our $ on the guys we have on the team. And if u think revis will take less to come play for a winner your fooling your self. We should start a no trade for revis movement.
If Revis truly is a “shutdown corner”, we need him. Sometimes I think teams are too reluctant to give up high draft picks for proven talent. Personally I’d offer our first rounder for him, and more. Last draft our first round slot gave us a guy who hasn’t caught a pass this season. We may well get a second round pick or thereabouts for Alex Smith, so the cupboard won’t be bare.
Yes, I like the idea. Perhaps Alex Smith could fit into this equation as well.
Revis could be an upgrade over Rodgers. And would not need to start right away.
Lets trade them AJ Jenkins , T Ginn and Alex Smith..Seems fair right? All kidding aside maybe it will be like 94 when we got Deon and go to back to back superbowls! Deon was the difference that year.
Grinch,
That didn’t sound like a bad deal to me. The Jets need receivers and a QB. Thats a solid trade. Why not? Im nor certain the Ginn is still under contract next year. I say we give them Smith and Jenkins.
Yeah,those are 3 1st round picks,lol
Grinch don’t forget about SY ,JR ,RW, DS was good but the SB didn’t happen only because of him…
This just doesn’t seem like the “49er way” of doing things. They much prefer to draft, develop, and reward their own guys. It would certainly be an exciting move for the fan base, but I just think the odds are pretty low.
Revis is the once in a generation CB right now. Different rules.
No he WAS.
There is zero reason to assume that he’ll be as good as he was before the surgery and even at that he was already showing signs of losing a step. Coming back from an ACL injury at 32 and at the CB position c’mon, your really kidding yourself on this one. Adrian Peterson is 5 years younger and what he accomplished was freakish and almost unheard of assuming it could happen to an older player is ludicrous.
Add in that we’d be in a bidding war for his services so we’d have to give up top dollar draft picks and then you get the guy who’s going to hold out until he is paid as the highest person at his position.
Trading for Revis is a horrible idea.
Sorry as below disregard the age comments, I was totally off on that number.
CFC
No harm, no foul. We all have our moments.
I think we would have to trade a 1st and if we could package A. Smith we could get Revis and a 3rd rd pick back
I don’t like this “story” breaking while our team is preparing for the SB. I am the first to state that the NFL means Not For Long and the players know this better than anyone, but I dont want Brown, Culliver, Rogers, etc having this distraction. I dont knock the media for reporting it – if there’s any validity to it, that is – but it presents another management challenge for Fangio/Harbaugh.
Grant, how about some articles speculating on Ray Lewis’s and Ed Reed’s looming replacements? Those guys are older than the hills – let’s get something going for them to have to deal with. I think there also needs to be an article about how Flacco can throw a nice long ball but can’t hit an intermediate or short route. Fair is fair.
I hear you. If you read the article, it has very little to do with the Niners. It’s another one of Grant’s selective headlines.
Revis Goes to the 49ers?
Highly doubtful. He becomes a free agent after next season, then will the 49ers organization afford to keep him? If not, they could waste a handful of draft picks.
Dan I believe they would workout a Sign and trade deal.
The 49ers will face against the NFL’s salary cap limit this year with about $550,000 remaining, if they keep Alex Smith by April 1st. Otherwise, the Niners can clear up the salary cap space available while trading with no guarantee money or releasing him away with a $1 million guarantee.
I don’t think we keep Dashon Goldson, although.
We have so many picks this year and this is exactly the kind of trade that we have Alex for. Who exactly else would you trade Alex for by the way?
For a Kaepernick rookie card and a stick of gum.
Grant do you have an opinion on whether or not the 49ers should make the trade and if they did what do you think they would have to give up to get him?
Yes, I think they should go after Revis. Justin Smith is getting older and the 49ers should try to get another player of his magnitude. I think they’d have to give up their first and second round picks at least. The Jets would probably want the 2014 first round pick, and the 49ers would probably prefer to put A.J. Jenkins in the deal.
Why the hell would the 9ers put AJ Jenkins in the deal? They woul get absolutely nothing for him. It would be giving away last years #1 pick and getting nothing in return. The Jets would still expect significant compensation in addition to Jenkins. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Are you throwing that out there as an informed insider or just a wild guess as part of your continued attacks because you didn’t like the Jenkins pick????
You are right on the money Houston.
I was thinking about this last night when the report came out. This is exactly what we need and we have Alex who the Jets need. This is a win win for both teams so we might not have to give up too many picks in addition.
This is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard in a long time. 32 years old and coming back from an ACL injury, two huge red flags. He was already showing signs of decline, another red flag. He’s fleeced the Jets for every cent he can and has shown he’s willing to hold out to get what he wants, momumental red flag.
So we’re going to give up high draft picks for an old injured diminishing skills player who has a me first personality and plays for the money. Worst idea in a really long time.
32?
No, 27.
He is 27 next year.
No, were going to give up Alex Smith. The jets covet Smith and the report says Revis is 27. Theres no way that the Jets will get what the report claims they’re asking for. Besides, Adrian Peterson made a pretty quick recovery for his ACL surgery. Im not sure who we can get in return for Smith thats much better.
CFC,
Revis is 28. Not 32, if Im not mistaken. I read that yesterday.
If Revis is 100% we would be signing our ticket to the SB for several more times this decade for sure.
Tim in case you forgot, it’s a team game. This isn’t the 90′s anymore where one player can make a team a contender for many years.
Holy crap, I was convinced he was 32….yikes my bad big time then sorry about that. I’m not sure where I saw that number then but I definitely thought he was that age.
/super bonk me
Insert foot >here<
CFC – Did you start happy hour early today? Breakfast beers huh? :-)
Yeah, we need a corner with a bum wheel…
The 49ers will face against the NFL’s salary cap limit this year with about $550,000 remaining, if they keep Alex Smith by April 1st. Otherwise, the Niners can clear up the salary cap space available while trading with no guarantee money or releasing him away with a $1 million guarantee.
I don’t think we keep Dashon Goldson, although.
Don’t like it, this guy wants to be paid like he’s a QB or Larry Fitzgerald. Give Goldson a new contract! Let’s continue to build through the draft
It depends on the Niners salary-cap and what DeShawn Gholdston wants grant what dose the cap look like next year?
Smoke and mirrors, I would surprised if there was much interests at all from the Niners.
Maybe the conversation ends with this question:
Is this the kind of trade we’d expect Baalke to go for?
Remember Baalke is Ted Thompson and not Jerry Jones when it comes to trades and free agents. This kind of high profile big dollar transaction is exactly the type of thing Trent has intentionally avoided.
I don’t see the trade happening. I think Baalke would make the trade if it worked out for the team, but I don’t see him trading for Revis. Revis wants every last penny available, that mindset doesn’t fit with a team where players sign for less then market value to stay here. This seems like a classic Dan Snyder move.
His attitude could be a by-product of the media frenzy of NYC, after being frustrated by the Jets, who wouldn’t, he may really want to go to a contender, where the extra “BS” is no where near the level of NYC. Bad attitudes don’t last around here anymore, and I for 1 love that JH and the locker room police will NOT allow 1 player to be bigger than the team.
It’s an interesting idea to look at. Revis is in his prime, but coming off a knee injury. He’s also going into the final year of his contract, so I don’t think the compensation would be as high as some are speculating. Maybe 2 2nd’s or this year’s 1st would get it done under those conditions.
It also would be pretty easy to sign him to the big deal he would covet. Rogers is on the books for 7mill+. Cut him and there is about 70% of Revis’ deal. Not far fetched or difficult to pull off imo. What I didn’t like is seeing Seattle on the list. If they got him to put opposite Sherman, that would be a freaking nightmare. I’d almost due the deal just to avoid that possible scenario.
Rocket,
His contract paid $32.5 million over the first two years. Not too long after signing it, he made a comment to the media that he would probably be in the same situation two years from now. He insinuated he may hold out before training camp last year, but ultimately didn’t. He certainly would have this year, the last year of his deal. Revis thinks he’s worth 16+ million a year. He may have got it had he not injured his knee. He still might if he proves he is 100%. I just don’t see the Niners doing it. He is a hell of a player when healthy, though.
BigP,
If he wants 16 mill per then you are right it won’t happen. A lot of times the early part of the deal guarantees a lot of money and then the back end of the deal regress’ a bit but if he is intent on opening his own bank, he’ll be going elsewhere.
You can’t expect to draft Justin Smith’s replacement where the 49ers will be drafting the next three or four years. To get a player of Smith’s or Revis’ caliber, Baalke would probably have to trade or sign him.
yeah and its about balancing out the defense. Get Revis and it makes up for the potential pass rush decline from an aging Smith.
Exactly.
Outstanding point!!!
I’ll take a pass rusher over a CB any day of the week.
Grant who do you think of Datone Jones. Is he someone that could be around at #32? He was originally projected as a second rounder but I’m hearing he’s generating some buzz at the Senior Bowl.
He’s a good prospect. He reminds me of Dobbs.
sorry what , not who. man i’m all full of Fail this morning.
The Niners should sign Glenn Dorsey if possible. He destroyed the SEC, was drafted 5th by the Chiefs, and has been labeled a bust on a mismanaged team. Familiar? Coaching makes a difference, and Andy Reid is one guy who would probably be able to actually aid in Alex Smith’s ongoing development.
Smith to the Chiefs for Dorsey and a 2nd rounder. I’m sure Tomsula could whip him into shape, and he’s a perfect complement to and eventual replacement for JS when the time comes.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11239/glenn-dorsey
He and JS are both listed at 6’4″ 280 ish so I was thinking of him as a project replacement. What’s his motor like? I really want to get Smith’s potential replacement on the team now while we have him as a mentor for the rookie.
Very good motor, long arms. Very high “upside.” He needs to add strength and bulk, of course.
What’s harder to find, a good DE or a good CB? Use the draft picks to draft Smith’s replacement rather then taking a chance on a VERY expensive potentially damaged goods veteran.
Well I like what I’m hearing so far. I’m putting him at the top of my ridiculously too early draft wish list. I think we’d have to move up if he’s as good as he sounds.
CFC
I couldn’t tell you about his motor. I am NOT a college football fan, but I remember watching Dorsey at LSU, where, actually he played alongside RJF.
Here’s a quote:
“You watch him play,” Ohio State offensive tackle Alex Boone said, “and there are some plays where he just puts people on the ground.”
Here’s a link:
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=3180802
Grant, how’s the media circus? Your dad’s article was epic. Tell him his use of his chosen literary device took it into the mystic. Best to your mom! Good man staying for that. Good man Lowell for sharing.
This years draft is extremely deep with d-line prospects the 9ers will be able to get one at 32. Revis would handcuff them as far as the salary cap goes and this is not Baalke’s M.O. He probably did talk to the Jets about Revis, but how seriously?
Grimey
I think if the Niners could sign Ngata, they’d do it at whatever price necessary. Revis is the same guy when healthy. Leaps and bounds better than the rest. He ranks at the top of all categories, reaction time, speed, size, and physicality, and his insane body control (a la Jerry Rice) allows him to make a game altering play every single time he’s targeted.
Sorry for the mix up MrE but I was referring to Datone.
I know he’s good but the NFL has this thing called a salary cap and we are right up against it.
Plus there are always unsubstantiated trade rumors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRte0S2a_dA
Grant- you are making NO SENSE with that statement
Let’s just look at pro-bowlers from last season
Geno Atkins- fourth round
Justin Tuck- 3rd round
robert mathis- 5th round
Jason Babin- picked at 27 (A spot where niners may end up easily next year)
Randy Starks (3rd round)
Kyle Williams (5th round)
Jay Ratliff (7th round)
Darnell Dockett (3rd round)
The niners can find quality DEs or DTs in late rounds- it would be silly to give up a 1st or 2nd just to get one year of Revis coming off major knee surgery.
You’d have to get a new contract done before making the deal. I don’t think any team will pay a premium without that stipulation.
Do the Jets want Alex Smith? The fans don’t seem to excited. It would be nice to get something for him if possible.
http://thejetsblog.com/audible/should-jets-make-a-play-for-alex-smith/
If Revis is 100% and that is a big You have to grab him. If all you have to trade is a 1st rd pick and A. Smith to get in return Revis and a 3rd rd pick its a no brainer. The team no longer wants A. Smith and the chance of getting a shut down corner with the # 32 pick is miniscule. the big question for me is health.
Theres no way they get a first rounder for him. Its called leverage and hes coming off a knee injury.
I don’t want to give up a first for this dude
Objectively, the best place for Revis is Green Bay.
Revis is too much of a money grubbing player- there is no way the team could justify paying him over 10 million a year.
So basically this deal would be a trade to get ONE YEAR of revis- at 6 million he is affordable.
If they want to do Alex Smith for revis straight up great- if they want a slew of 3rd-7th round choices- that would be ok. But dont give up the 1st and 2nd. The niners need good cheap draft choices to keep this thing going.
Suede first of all they would do a sign and trade deal so they would’nt have him for only one year and we do’nt know what he would sign for, he might sign for less to get the chance to play for a super bowl and we will never know unless we pursue him
Old Coach- Revis isn’t going to do that- he wants the most money possible. He wants to be a free agent after 2013- He is of a high risk/ high reward mindset.
And even if he signed an extension- with his history- you cant count on anything- if he has a great year he will hold out the next. The guy already did it twice.
Suede,
I agree. This guy is all about his $$$ and he has all of the leverage. He can’t be franchised after this year and if he is healthy he will get a monster contract in FA next spring.
You have to remember when you talk 49er 1st rd pick you are talking about pick #31\32 it really not much different than a early 2nd rd pick
Here is what type of defensive lineman you can pick up with a late 1st rounder.
Geno Atkins- fourth round
Justin Tuck- 3rd round
robert mathis- 5th round
Jason Babin- picked at 27 (A spot where niners may end up easily next year)
Randy Starks (3rd round)
Kyle Williams (5th round)
Jay Ratliff (7th round)
Darnell Dockett (3rd round)
no matter where the niners pick- 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks are ALWAYS valuable.
Valuable yes but a guarenteed all pro like Revi [if he is healthy] no
The majority of pro bowl players are picked in rounds other than the first. This isnt the NBA
Thats because for every 32 1st rd picks there are approx 215 2-7 rd picks
Old Coach applying the common sense mathematical solution. I like it!!!
@ old coach:
The 49ers’ ratio of picks in rounds 2-7 to picks in round 1 exceeds that ratio.
Also, because of his injury, I’m not certain Revis is a guaranteed All-Pro, certainly not for 2013.
Claude
I dislike the Jets with a passion, so I view their games very negatively. Despite that, Revis leaps off the screen with his abilities. Charles Woodson is my favorite DB in the league, but I think Revis, when healthy, was better than Woodson at his apex. He’s more solid than Deion was, yet not as fast (but who other than Bo Jackson was?), but Revis and Deion both had the same sublime body control that allowed them to contort mid-flight to take picks. Whether he comes back with that same fluidity and his 4.3 speed are questions to consider.
@ Mr. E:
I agree completely regarding Revis’s skills. He’s the best CB in the league, and it’s not particularly close. But, that’s what he was prior to injuring his ACL. Who knows how long it takes him to recover fully, if he ever does? I’d be wary about trading a lot for a guy who may be more than a year away from playing at a high level, but only has one year left on his contract.
Seeing how I was already looking at cornerbacks and pass rushers in the upcoming draft and then see what Adran Peterson did after a year of rehab I would highly support a trade. Especially if he has the potential to get back healthy again.
I would let Alex Smith go to Arizona, and I am a new poster. Longtime 49er fan, so please stop flagging me.
Everyone is worried about adding a top of the first round guy like Rwvis but no one is talking about former #1 pick JaLardus Russell.
Reportedly, he has lost a ton of weight (down to 308!) and is looking to make a comeback.
He’s totally committed to being in shape as evident by his losing a whole 12 pounds.
AWESOME.
In other words, he is running out of money already.
Sizzurp ain’t cheap.
If he comes back, he’ll be the one guy in the league with a bigger arm than Kaep.
He’ll also be the one QB in the league with more arm flab than Kyle Love.
http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/kyle-love-arms/
Grimey
You are a legend for that one.
LOL Grimey!
Jets need more new players then the 49ers. The 49ers could have up to 14 picks in April. Most of them are late rounders, but the Niners will likely have 3 third rounders and 2 fifth rounders.
I could envision the 49ers bundling Alex Smith+late round multiple picks+ the 2 (non-compensitory) third rounders and the extra fifth rounder.
The 49ers gain Revis and get to keep the initial 1-5 round picks.
The rebuilding Jets get 5-7 extra training camp bodies.
I don’t see the trade happening, but if it did that’s the scenario that could work..
Brodie I do’nt see the Jets taking anything less than a 1st for Revis. I think if you throw A. Smith in the mix you might get a 3rd and 5th along with Revis in return.
Would be nice, but not for the price. He wants 14-16 milliion per year. We have a ton of contracts to get done. D. Goldson, Ricky Jean, Sope, and D. Walker. Also anthony daivs and Iupati will be in last year of contratc next season. i don’t see how it makes sense financialy
My point is it costs nothing to pursue him. if we work out a good trade, then after negotiating with him find we ca’nt workout a deal no loss.
Davis and Iupati both have the potential to earn benchmark-setting contracts. It will be next to impossible to keep them both. Better keep drafting OLs.
Mr. E.,
That’s a good point. The 49ers are the victims of their own drafting success. I say spend the money on O and D lines….if there’s enough leftover, trade for Revis, but it’s gotta include a multi-year deal with Revis.
We should part with Soap
The more I think about this the less sense it makes financially. How can the Niners afford Revis. That means we would have to part with Goldson. Plus Kaep is gonna need a new contract in a year or so. I don’t think it’s possible
Smith would come off the books and we could release Carlos Rogers.
That would be a short term solution. Goldson Aldon Anthony Davis iupati Kaepernick are all gonna be due contracts the next couple years. Acquiring the top paid corner is gonna conflict with us resigning these guys.
Nothing wrong with short term solutions to aquire more trophies. See: Deon Sanders circa 1994
Rogers I believe still has guaranteed money left on his contract. He’d still count against the cap.
Another possibilty at CB for the 9ers that would cost little money and possibly a 2nd or 3rd rd pick is Honey Badger. If he slips in the draft like its being reported he might he might be a good gamble
Coach
a 5’9 corner with off field issues screams “stay away” but in the 3rd rd id take a chance on him as our next slot CB and PR. JJenkins had a special structure to his contract where if he f-up he would cost the team next to nothing. But is badger the type of personality u want in the lockeroom? (i dont know havn’t read anything bad about his attitude just that he loves the weed) Its up to Harbalke to make that judgement. The great thing about drafting from a position of strength is that we can afford moves others cant
My first question is why would the Jets want to trade the best cover corner in the league. Are they trying to rebuild and get under the salary cap? Or is Revis’ comeback from a torn ACL in jeopardy? I’d be careful about this one and do some serious due diligence before grabbing him….
DC
It’s probably because he’s too expensive for a team that is so far from where they want to be. They’d have no money left to build out their core. Sanchez is already handcuffing them, and Revis has never been shy about holding out or using the media to threaten Woody Johnson.
“Are [the jets] trying to rebuild?”
Oh yes. They have been trying to play NFL football without an actual QB.
This is what a man would call CARTE BLANCHE!!!!!! U give us Revis and our D shuts down half the field.. Blitz more often, gives our D another upgrade in th d backfield n dare ppl to keep throwing. We have a good backfield..Why would you turn down the chance to be great. Carte Blanche.. Yea we could do what the hell we want on D… How many times has an Elite QB played with an Elit D??? Never. Lets make it happen in ’13. Kap isnt Elite yet but if he wins this game start the BUZZ. Get Revis is possible
Adding Revis to this D would be alot like when we added D. Sanders and there were alot of fans at that time who thought he was a selfish punk but he was a selfish punk who gave us our last SB
Then he left the next year and gave the Cowboys the superbowl. That was in the time of Eddie D. pre-salary cap.
I loved seeing Deion and his dooRag wearing Red & errrr White !!!
Did you eat the Pizza?
Isn’t Brent Grimes a free agent this year? Also coming off an injury but a solid talent that would be way cheaper than Revis.
Clem
The disparity between healthy Revis and every other CB in the league is astronomical.
So is Revis’ price tag.
Exactly. Is the shutdown CB worth more than the 15 sack guy or the 200 tackles guy?
DID….YOU…EAT….THE….PIZZA?…lol. Radich says eating divides reporters from “respected”-those who didn’t eat- and not.
Are you a EATER?…drum roll…
Why don’t you dive in his septic tank and find out for yourself?
No, I didn’t eat any of that pizza.
Right on!.
I’d do it in a heartbeat.
I ate the pizza and it was terrible. I can’t describe what happened next on a good forum like this that would be gross. That pizza should be recalled.
I am just wondering, what the draft looks like for corner backs, it would be great to pick up a good one, that also can return punts.
Neal
Hit the NFL.Com site here:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:cb
Thanks E,
Going to save this for the draft, funny how the number one pick is compared to Carlos Rogers.
Forget Revis, we don’t need Nate Clements 2.0! Nate under-performed and got 22 million guaranteed.
@ Crab15:
Other than the fact that they both play CB (or did; I think Nate has been spending some time at S for Cincinnati), in what way is Clements similar to Revis?
C Balls – Clements played about 5 years as a cornerback before signing with Niners. Revis has played 5 years as a cornerback. Both have been all pro cornerbacks, both were drafted in first round. Both are about the same size and they both have had season ending injuries.
Crabs
Clements was never even close to Revis. The Niners grossly overpaid him.
Mr. E – I think Revis is a better player than Clements was in his prime but their first five years of production are not that far apart.
When Niners courted Clements he was the top unrestricted free agent available, in the entire NFL. He was considered a premier lockdown cornerback and was in the prime of his career. Yes the Niners overpaid Clements.
This Revis talk just reminded me of the Clements signing, that’s all.
Mr. E. – Can you or someone lookup/compare Revis and Clements stats for first five years? Just for curiosity.
My computer is in shop, I’m smart phone blogging and it sucks!
9 more days til Super Sunday!! TGIF everyone!
Crabs
I could, but I don’t really know what stats to use. Passes defensed? INTs? Tackles?
Just find a highlight reel on your smartphone and watch it. Revis is WAY better than I wanted to give him credit for. He blew me away. In the rarefied air of Deion.
The Niners will own the last pick in the first rd after winning the Superbowl. IF the Niners coaches and team doctors are convinced he’s fully recovered from his ACL injury then why not send the Jets that pick?
Good news:
“Running back Kendall Hunter, who tore his Achilles tendon in New Orleans Nov. 25, has been out of a walking boot for two days. Hunter said he’s trying to “take it slow” as far as his rehabilitation but that he aims to be at full strength before training camp in July.”- Matt Barrows
Should be a good competition with LMJ if he can come back at 100%. Also looking forward to seeing Hampton in the mix during camp as well.
49ers have to find a way to get them both snaps next season. I think Gore’s carries might go down.
Grimey
My Achilles is back to 100% and I didn’t get the “athlete” treatment. It took about 6 months from the date of the injury. That walking boot protects and rehabilitates the leg during the month that it’s worn, with wedges being removed 1/week to go from high heel to flat, allowing the tendon and muscles to lengthen slowly.
If you want some details about the injury and surgery for athletes, Google “Beckham Achilles.”
Without looking at draft picks. I know Niners have a lot. Also not sure what players this draft has. Focused on Superbowl and SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU DAMNIT!!!
buuuutttt…. here you go…
* whatever you do, you must resign Deshaun
49ers:
Alex Smith
1 round (last pick who cares)
2 round SWAP (swap with Jets to act like a late first rounder)
3 round (we have at least 2)
6 round
Jets:
Revis
2 round (swap)
5 round
Can we swap S. Hill for AJJ??? :P
Revis is not coming to SF.
Dont be so hasty. If they take Smith in a trade the numbers are pallatable. He would be a HUGE upgrade over Rogers. Its a Deion Sanders type move that would give us an excellent chance to return to return to the superbowl. Then we would be back to a position of prominance. We would once again be able to sway veterans late in their careers to come over cheaply.
I agree with Hammer. Mike Sando makes the case well:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/90132/sorry-not-buying-revis-to-nfc-west-talk
Sando the Seahawk homer.
Razor
Sando not from Seattle. Actually grew up in NorCal!
He’s still in the tank for Seattle.
Revis ain’t coming. To much money for a one year deal for a guy coming off a major injury. Would mess our cap space up big time. Now Richard Seymour is a guy I would be interested in for a couple of years. He’s coming off an injury like Revis{hamstring} but he’s a free agent, would be cheap and definitely would help our D-line.
It would NOT be a one year deal.It would have to be a sign and trade deal for several years. If Revis wants to play for a SB Champ,then he will make it happen and will agree to a salary cap friendly deal .
I still find it hard to believe the Jets are letting him go in trade,especially since Ryan needs to win THIS year or he will be fired.
This is a good take on a possible trade to the NFC West.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/category/_/name/san-francisco-49ers
Yeah, Sando shot that down pretty hard. He understands the way the 9ers organization works and how they build their team and pay their players. Draft, get good value in free agent market, then allow those players to earn their big paycheck while in a 49er uniform. It seems to work well.
Grimey
See Glenn Dorsey
The 49ers are evaluating Revis’ Island, and Alex Smith would be part of the deal no question.
I already mentioned this. Alex for revis. Check the previous Alex smith blog. Old news…
Two things I must point out.
1st… Dashon Goldson is much more important IMO to sign… Unless TB knows he can’t sign him and maybe looking for a shutdown corner that takes pressure off of a Goldsonless secondary.
2nd why would anyone want to start all of this talk right before the biggest game of these 49ers careers. CR has a tough enough task next Sunday. Him or any other player shouldn’t have to be even hearing whispers of this talk before the Superbowl. Flat out garbage.
1st…The league is moving away from laying the wood. Everytime he lights someone up, everyone is looking for the flag. This is a pass happy league and Fangio covets shut down corners in his defense. Revis, if back to form, would be similar to ’94 when the 49ers acquired Sanders to shut down Irvin.
2…The 49ers would not be doing due diligence if they did not evaluate a player of Revis’ caliber if it meant improving the team no matter the time frame.
I already mentioned this. Alex for revis. Check the previous Alex smith blog. Old news….
The rumor is that Seattle is also interested in him. If they get him instead of us and he is 100% ,then it would be a disaster for us.
If we get him and he is 100%,then we just punched our ticket to several more SB this decade !
It is a gamble ,since nobody knows if he will be 100% ever again.
What I would want is a clause that we will give a 2014 1st rounder for him IF he plays a certain % of downs for our defense in 2013. If he falls short then it would become a 3rd rounder. (plus any players that were thrown in ).
Hopefully he will be 100% for the 2013 season and he will want to play for the SB Champs !
The 49ers should have just drafted Janoris Jenkins in the 1st round last year rather than AJ. We would have our shut down corner now and not have to worry about acquiring one.
Yeah, this team that’s about to play in the Superbowl should’ve done things different.
We are discussing personnel you know. No need to be a D-Wad.
Shoulda woulda coulda is loser talk. Please discuss the future not what a successful team should have done.
First off Grime I will post what I choose without your dimwitted approval or not. In the context of the discussion there is a need for a cornerback on this team. In the context of the discussion this is the internet version of the old hot stove league and it is perfectly relevant to discuss draft picks and personnel moves past, present and future as the user sees fit as it pertains to the state of the team at any time especially if the heading addresses that subject. So say something really intelligent, if possible, about what I said in relationship to the ongoing status of the cornerback position and how we arrived here or shut up.
I played with Jenkins.
I know Jenkins.
Jenkins is a friend of mine.
Jenkins is no Darrelle Revis.
He is no Revis yet but he is a heck of a corner. Probably as good or better than anything in this coming draft.
Razoreater always with the distinctive expressions!
Revis is great, but too expensive.
Justin. Smith was a free agent pickup. I don’t see the Niners giving up draft choices and paying a fortune on top of that.
Maybe they see if Revis is a free agent next year.
Revis will not be a free agent next year if the Jets have anything to say about it. They are talking about trading him now because they can’t Franchise him and he will be a free agent after next season. If they don’t either sign him now,which they can’t afford,or trade him now,before he reaches free agency,then they get nothing for him.
He will either sign an extention with the Jets or will be traded. (but then,it is the inept Jets we are talking about,so maybe they do let him get to free agency?).
What we don’t want is for the Seahawks to get him,which is rumored. I would love to have him,if he is healthy. A trade is a risk,but probably worth it.
Except for franchising him that can’t force him to stay on the team. They also can’t force him to agree to a new contract.
My bet is he will want to be a free agent and will not want to sign a new contract. He will want to play in 2013 to show how good he is.
They can trade him no matter what he wants,unless he has a no trade clause in his contract. If ther Niners offer him an extension and he knows he is going to the SB winning team,he may be all for a sign an extension and trade deal ?
I would offer a 2014 1st rounder and this years 2nd rounder,5th rounder and a player
The only way I’d like to see Revis with the Niners is if he could go 2 consecutive season without needing his contract redone. I don’t see that happening so let him stay on team distraction and they can continue to be the team that is front and center in the media and an after thought as a competitive football team.
Well guys, this has been a good thread; lots of football talk. It’s off focus, but we’re filling time before the game, eh?
Lots of good points made. I have no clue if Revis/SF has any possibility or how Harbs or Trent feel about him. He only comes here on a sign&trade. We DO have more draft choices than can make the team……..
My personal take is it won’t happen, but the original story broke that SF was one of the interested teams. I don’t have much success second guessing Trent or Jim H., so I’m not sure if the story is accurate or not.
Brotha,
T.Brown has emerged as our best DB. C.Rogers did not come close to the season he had last year, and I keep remembering how he got spanked by V.Cruze in last years championship game.
Culliver has good potential but was beat more than I would have wanted to see.
Tr.Brooks hardly saw the field this year and may not make the team next season.
D.Revis would make a great addition and could possibly be brought in slowly until he is completely healed and confident.
I feel it’s worth the risk to sign Revis. I just don’t want the team to break the bank in doing so. Hopefully, Revis will be flexible with the prespect of playing on a SB type team and bend on money given his injury.
@AES
If the FO wants to make a move on him, I’m fine with it. He’s good, he could help even this team.
I agree more quality depth is needed. For the last couple of years I’ve had my eye on the taller CB prospects as the NFL receivers keep getting taller. You still need guys who can flip their hips and many longer legged types aren’t as smooth at that. Seattle has a couple of good ones. Either Trenton Robinson needs to keep developing, or we’ll need more talented depth at Safety also.
Dont people remember the Namdi hoopla. 2 years ago he was the “best CB in the league” even though he didnt seem to help the faders much. Then when Philly signed him they were supposed to be the SB favorites a “dream team” if you will. The last time I saw Namdi he was getting smoked by guys left and right and while he isn’t to blame for the eagles downfall he sure as $hhh hasnt earned his money.
I know revis is the man, i watch and root for him every week ( i just hate the pats soooo much) but he is not D.Sanders. Blasphemy I say. DS is the greatest CB of all time. DR is the best CB of his time (the late 2000s) but is he better than Champ or D.Green? Those guys didnt win (DG might have with was but i dont remember) CB’s don’t win superbowls on their own. The 94 team was stacked and deion just pushed them over the top because we needed someone to stop Irvin. WHO DO WE NEED TO STOP NOW?… Exactly. U dont know who will make the playoffs next year, never mind who our main opposition will be.
Now if we get him for next to nothing and he comes cheap sure why not but the whole talk of SB the next 5 seasons cuz of him is bogus. NYJ had him and ACrom and they havnt won d!kk
Forgot to add. Somebody asked on another thread if he is injury prone. I believe he has missed considerable time with a bad hammy especialy the season he held out of camp (2010 i believe)
This is the second time this thing has refreshed in the middle of a post so I’m not re-writing all of it for the third time.
The Niners will look to add to the defense this offseason. Revis or the kid from Florida State in the draft would be worth looking at. Maybe you trade out a few 2014 picks and save your first this season and pick up Margus to back up J. Smith?
*Margus Hunt or Kawann Short
Adam
Just copy ur text while u write. I know it sucks but dont cheat the good people of this blog of ur thoughtful and entertaining posts by shortening up the content
Adam,
K.Short has put up impressive numbers at Purdue and looked good today in the Senior Bowl. Nice push and leverage at the point of attack. He is very stout and could be a good fit for us if we can draft him.
The problem is, with this years draft being very defense heavy, he may not be around when the 49ers pick.
The 49ers are in the perfect position this year to go after the best player possible rather then drafting to fill any immediate needs.
There will be some good value at defense in this years draft, and we could be patient with their learning process. Then again, we could possibly hit draft ‘gold’ and find more CK’, LMJ’, C.Culliver’, K.Hunter’ in later rounds that could find their way on the field sooner than later.
I’m really intrigued by a couple of players who might fly under the radar.
1. Ezekiel Ansah of BYU.
2. Quanterus Smith of Western Kentucky.
E.Ansah is somewhat raw, but has a huge upside because of his strength, size and motor. I believe that he will go in the 1st rd. between 12 – 22, so if the 49ers are attracted to him they will need to make some moves.
Q.Smith will likely still be around if the 49ers decide to hold their drafting position. He tied for 3rd place in the nation for sacks. He also gave BCS Champion Alabama headaches when W.Kentucky played them this past season.
Mr. Ansah will not be flying under anyones radar.
I think you’re right about Ansah.
I would love to see the 49ers make a move to get him if he’s within reach.
He might be available.
Ansah was not found on any of the 2012 preseason mock drafts for the 2013 NFL draft. By mid-season, he had moved up from unlisted to the late-first round or early second round with many analysts calling him the sleeper pick of the draft
He beasted at the senior bowl today.
Agreed Neal.
Ezekiel “Ziggy” Ansah put himself on the map this season and had a good week of practice during Senior Bowl week.
I’ve watched a few highlights of his this season and I know it might a stretch, but this guy reminds me of Aldon Smith more then any other player coming into the draft.
He is cat-quick, tall 6’6″ and has very good fottball insticnts even though he is somewhat raw.
I would love to see Ziggy in a 49er uniform next season.
*football… *instincts
Looks like he might be available AES
It will not happen. Alex will get released.
The 49ers could trade Tarell Brown and Alex Smith for Darelle Revis