The 49ers have signed defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey to a two-year deal, the team just announced.
Here’s what general manager Trent Baalke said about the signing: “We are very pleased to add Glenn to our team. Glenn brings great versatility to our defensive front, and we look forward to his contributions on the field and in the community.”
The Chiefs drafted Dorsey with the fifth pick in the 2008 draft, and for the first five seasons of his career he’s been a bust. The Chiefs played him at defensive end in a three-man front. He played well against the run at times, but he was a non-factor against the pass, which means he’s probably a better fit at nose tackle.
The 49ers need a nose tackle. They lost one this offseason – Isaac Sopoaga – and they could lose another one – Ricky Jean Francois. Dorsey has a chance to become the 49ers’ starting nose tackle in the base defense. In the sub packages, Dorsey could be the main backup for Justin Smith and Ray McDonald at the three-technique defensive tackle position.
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I’m dashon goldson goes to the buccaneers he will be missed when the NinerS go CHEAP!
Big hitter that benefited from the Niners front seven. I like the Hawk, but coverage skills are so important in today’s NFL. I wish him the best of luck and can’t fault him for cashing in. I can’t fault the Niners front office for not overpaying either.
Exactly. Hawk was one of my favorite players but there’s just no way he’s an $8 million player.
He got more money than the Weddle deal. I would happily save that big salary for Aldon, Iupait, A. Davis, Kaep, Crab and others that will roll in the next 1-2 years.
I think the Harvin and Wallace deals will price Crabtree out of San Francisco at the end of next season.
Not if they stink in Miami and Seattle.
Then the market will be reluctant in paying so much for FA WRs.
There will always be a team willing to spend that much however. The Jets come to mind for example.
I feel like Baalke will be smart enough to extend Crab or Kaep this year depending on how they play.
Kaep is the only one I’m positive will get an extension. I wouldn’t be surprised if Crabtree waits until the end of the season for anything dealing with contract talks.
We sign Reed and we exchange a big hitter for a big int player…..
MWN
I’m really trying here, bud. We have Crab for 2 more years. Thanks.
A rookie contract cant be extended until after its 3rd year so this next season will have to end before Kap can be extended, not during the year. Just saying!
You can’t pay everybody. That’s just the way it is.
Rocket is exactly right. One reason the NFL is mre competitive than I have ever seen it since I started following the 49ers in 1967. QB and offensive lineman you pay first (if they are real good ones). Then stars like Aldon, Willis, Bowman. Receivers are last. You don’t spend your money on just a good safety like Goldson. That’s why Crabs will probably be gone. So … that’s probably the reason for the Jenkins pick, and that means the 49ers need to start getting some more receivers but that ain’t where a contending team wants to spend its money when it needs it for other more key players.
The teams that will have the most flexibility are those who draft well. The 49ers are probably the best team in the NFL capwise because they have a bargain-salaried quarterback for a while, and no other outrageous contracts. Seattle is in a similar situation except that they just signed a huge contract to Percy Harvin, which gives them less flexibility. So you hope for another huge haul in the draft – like 2011 and not, please God, 2012. That way you dump high priced veterans and replace them with low-cost draftees who are as good or close.
“I’m dashon goldson goes to the buccaneers”?
HUH?
I ARE FOOTBALL HEAD
Good move if they signed him on the cheap.
Agree. Hopefully they didn’t commit too much to him. I’m intrigued to see what role he takes on with the team. Hopefully Tomsula taps into that potential he had coming out of LSU.
The new pole question should ask what we think of the Dorsey signing.
Should we wait until the terms of the contract get released?
That’s probably a good idea.
The better idea is to trust the front office. They have done an excellent job of adding productive players to the roster while minimizing the financial risk to the team.
I agree BigP, but it would be interesting to see what everybody thinks of the signing.
Midwest,
I hear you, but I really like this pickup.
Me too BigP.
why wait?……….its the Nose.
….good replacement on paper……….
There’s a difference between “going cheap” and overpaying like the Bucs. The 49ers had practically zero chance to match that offer, and then be able to extend guys like Iupati, A. Davis, Crabtree, A. Smith and Kaepernick in the near future.
If it’s not much money, I like this deal. He’s bigger than RJF, isn’t he?
About 20 pounds bigger, I believe.
And PFF rates him as one of the best run stopping 3-4 ends. Niners will get creative with him.
Well if he plays nose its almost guaranteed hes an upgrade from Sopoaga considering how bad Sop was last year. I thought Ian Williams was suppose to fill that spot though?
I dont really like hes not a nose tackle he replaces rjf if anything gotta get a nose tackle in the.draft
He is the first FA we had visit. The FO obviously thinks very highly of him and has a plan for him. Let this one play out. Could be a pleasant surprise.
like your thinking Mike – Dorsey had a lot of eyes on him, so Baalke must have seen something he liked to make him an early move in the FA period. it’s relying on faith, but i like this signing.
Wow, did not expect this to happen! But trying to out-guess Baalke is never easy. I just hope it is a cap-friendly deal.
Is bust the right word? Certainly the fifth overall should be able to dominate so etimes and impress most of the time. Inarguably Dorsey has not lived up to that but if ‘he’s played well against the run’ as consensus opinion supports then he’s an overpaid underachiever. In my mind ‘Bust’ is something worse than that. I realize it’s subjective.
Can Dorsey be a successful resurrection project? The FO seems to think so. In college he played inside and was productive even against double teams. He got penetration back then so he might fit the 1gap.
I am wondering if there will be some cuts soon by the Niners.
This is an astute consideration, MWN.
Thanks.
MWN
I’m trying to chill out, per the CFC convo. Sorry for going Baccari Rambo on you earlier.
No problem. It was my fault as well. Any thoughts on who could get cut?
MWN
Cuts will not happen now, because there is no reason to expedite the process if the Niners aren’t spending. We’ll find out how much the Dorsey contract costs, and in the next few days , we’ll learn that Baalke is the same old Baalke.
That said, there are only a few worthwhile ($$$-wise) candidates remaining to cut.
I think a lot has been made of need at OLB, but the Niners drafted 2 guys last season (Johnson and Fleming), who are 22 & 23 respectively, and cost a total if ~$800K. So Harylson ($3M) will be cut, or possibly traded prior to draft day.
Looney and Kilgore appear to be young and capable, so Goodwin is a candidate too ($5M), but I don’t see them releasing him, as he was still a top-5 center last season, and the OL came together so well with many of the young guys crediting Goodwin’s quiet leadership.
Manningham ($5M) is gone. Kyle Williams is quicker, younger, and cheaper than Manningham, and the latter’s injury was much more severe. The Niners now have Crab, Boldin, Williams, AJJ, Manningham, and the two promising PS players under contract. They’ll likely draft another WR in the draft this year, and Manningham is simply too expensive.
The last candidate for being cut is Whitner ($5M), and I just don’t see this happening. A lot of people complain about his height and lack of coverage skills (ahem, Grant Cohn), but it is clear that Whitner, and NOT Goldson, has been the spiritual and cerebral heart of the Niners secondary over the last two years. I could be wrong about this, obviously, but I just don’t see the Niners drafting 2 safeties in 2013.
What’s your take?
The candidates I believe that could be cut before the season begins are Goodwin, Manningham, Whitner, Haralson, Dixon, K. Williams, Kilgore, and/or Cox. Here are my reasons why:
Goodwin- Though he has been successful at C since
his signing, Goodwin is 34 and in the last
year of his contract. The team may want
to see what they have in Kilgore or Looney
at this position and if they feel confident
in either then Goodwin will most likely be
released, saving the team $5.016 million.
Manningham- Manningham is coming back from
injury and could find out that he isn’t
even the third best WR on the depth
chart if Jenkins greatly improves or
the team drafts a WR in one of the
first three rounds. The Niners will
not keep him if either or both
scenarios happens, saving $4.95
million in cap space.
Whitner- Whitner went from the talk of the town in a
good way to the main topic in a bad way.
Though he can deliver crushing blows, his
coverage skills below average for a SS. If
(as most fans suspect) the team finds a
better option in FA or the draft, then his
time in the red and gold will be cut short
and save the team $4.93 million.
Haralson- His only crime is losing his starting job to
a gifted OLB in Smith, but Haralson is
being paid like a starter and that could be
his undoing as a Niner. He is an
excellent backup but his $2.87 million
salary could be used elsewhere.
Dixon- Dixon seems to have this problem every
season in that he needs to prove that he is
worthy of a roster spot. If the team does
indeed draft a RB or find someone more
capable than him on ST, then his final chance
will probably run out and save the team
$660,000 in cap space.
K. Williams- Injuries could be K. Williams’ undoing
as he has struggled to stay healthy his
entire career. The team is expected to
acquire one or two WRs and address
the PR position this off-season. Doing
so will have K. Williams most likely
getting cut and giving the Niners a
savings of $649,839.
Kilgore- The team drafted Kilgore to be the eventual
starting C for the offense. The problem is
that they drafted Looney last year for the
same exact reason. If Looney can pass
Kilgore on the C depth chart then his only
hope is as a backup G. However, he has not
done well in that role when utilized there
and the possibility of him being bypassed
by a draft pick is very likely. Both need to
happen for him to be cut and save the team
from paying him $595,075, but the chances
of both happening at the same time are
actually very high.
Cox- Simply put, if the team signs or drafts a CB(s)
then Cox will most likely be cut and give the
team an extra $555,000 in cap space.
Of these candidates, I think Goodwin, Manningham, Whitner, K. Williams, Kilgore, and Cox are the ones who could get cut. The savings from these cuts could
range from $555,000 to $15.3 million if all seven players were cut.
Well, they could cut Parys Haralson and save 2.5 million even if they still have to pay his $100,000 bonus. No dead money.
Another candidate is Goodwin if the team believes that either Kilgore or Looney is ready to assume the starting C role.
Many KC fans wishing him well on PFT and saying he will flourish if used correctly.
Maybe this signing can be better than previously thought.
specially if the money is not much.
I agree he might be a good fit as NT in base defense and DT on passing down when we run a 4-3 front seven.
Some of the quotes:
As a Chiefs fan – Good Luck! You will flourish if used correctly – Another Pioli disaster in the wrong system.
As another Chiefs fan – I hope he goes to SF and beasts it. He was miscast here and had hideous coaching.
The niners switch to a 4-3 at times so he could work much better in that scheme.
3-4 doesn’t work unless you have a big NT with power. Dorsey is basically the same size and height as RJF. He has underachieved at DE, now 49ers want him to overachieve as THE NT in a 3-4. I think this is a HUGE mistake.
Keepin’ my fingers crossed.
Most people thought the Niners overpaid for Justin Smith when he arrived here as a free agent. They used his low sack numbers to aid their argument, but didn’t see the impact he made on the defense as a whole. He has never had more than 8.5 sacks in a season, but he has been the most important player on the field. Baalke has done a tremendous job adding players to this roster, yet every year people question the front office during the free agency period. Flash doesn’t equal success. Remember Nate Clements?
Forget 8.5, Dorsey has never had more than two sacks in a season.
Grant,
I know that. He is a very talented player that will benefit from a good coaching staff. These guys wanted him for that exact reason. Baalke is considered one of, if not the best G.M. in the game. Why is that?
They targeted Dorsey on day one and signed him on day two. That tells me they see something in this guy and feel they can turn him into a solid player. That’s all I need to know.
@Rocket. Good point on Baalke’s time line on Dorsey; it was pretty forthright and fast by his usual standards.
@Big P
Not to put words in his mouth, but I’m not convinced Grant agrees on Trent’s rep/stature as a GM. I do.
BigP, I am not sure Baalke is or should be considered the best GM in the game. He’s not exactly been around long enough to attain that status and many of the guys w/the Niners now were not Baalke choices.
Scot McCloughan was responsible for many of the guys and in case you hadn’t noticed, there wasn’t much production from last years draft. In fact, no actual production outside of LMJ.
He’s good, but we need more track record. If Dorsey turns out to be an all pro with us, then great, but let’s keep the crowns off to the side until we see the “football Life” story for Baalke 15 years from now.
EB Niner,
First draft:
Mike Iupati, Anthony Davis, Navarro Bowman, Kyle Williams
Second draft:
Aldon Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Chris Culliver, Kendall Hunter, Bruce Miller
Third draft:
A.J. Jenkins (who was sought after by quite a few teams), LaMichael James, Joe Looney (possible future starter), Trenton Robinson, Cam Johnson (who was projected to go much earlier in the draft)
He has done a fantastic job. People complain about last years draft while completely ignoring the fact that there were virtually no open positions. They selected players for the future at great value and accrued a ton of draft picks. Those picks give them tremendous flexibility in the draft and free agency. That is exactly how good teams stay at the top. Now that they have some needs, they have the ammunition to take care of them. Many people were clamoring for the team to move up and get Coby Fleener last year, almost guaranteeing stardom for him. What did he do? Virtually nothing, while being outperformed by the TE the Colts selected in the third round. What position would the team be in had they traded a bunch of picks to trade up for a player that didn’t do anything and wasn’t at a position of need? Sometimes the moves that G.M.’s don’t make are the reason they are so good.
BigP,
You can add Ian Williams to that 2nd year as an undrafted free agent pickup.
All good points. When Baalke needed immediate impact guys he got them.
Jack,
Williams is another fine pickup, good point. It just drives me up the wall when people rip last years draft without even looking at the big picture. The team was set. Baalke did a great job in getting more picks while adding players for the future. Maybe we are just such hard core football geeks that we understand the process a bit more. I’m a big fan of Baalke and the direction he has this franchise headed. Like you have said many times, the fact that they have been to the NFC Championship game and the Super Bowl in the last two seasons speaks for itself.
If anyone has done a better job at GM than Baalke in the last two years, I would like to hear who that might be.
He’s been the class of the league.
The Smith, Kaepernick, Culliver, Hunter and Miller draft may go down as one of the best drafts in NFL history. It may sound like it, but I don’t think that’s hyperbole.
And the 49ers are loaded with draft picks this year, are poised to load up with draft picks in 2014, while still adding needed players in this year’s draft.
The 49ers are out Patrioting the Patriots.
Agree completely on Baalke, the man has had an incredible start to being a gm and has this team deep in talent with a boatload of picks to add more. Not just this year either; they are well on their way to having a similar cache of picks in 2014.
This team is now one of the best run organizations top to bottom in the league.
My point was essentially that he’s had a pretty good run, but not ALL of the Niners current success is due to him and time will tell how good he really is.
Can we all acknowledge the 49ers ran their 4 man front +65% of the time last year
Yep
Love this pickup, especially in light of Scooters post on the live blog. Couldn’t care less about the $$ part of it.
▲▲▲ All arrows up on Dorsey! ▲▲▲
Fangio will use this dude properly.
Jack
You gonna parrot my posts from a month ago advocating this signing?
Hammer – Remember Gilbert Brown (Packers dominating NT in mid/late 90′s)? He was 6-2 340 and Dorsey is 6-1 300. Fangio should dig up some old film on Gilbert Brown and show Dorsey how you do it. Remember Gilbert’s gravedigger dance after sack or tackle for loss? He killed Niners in playoffs, we couldn’t block him.
Dorsey should hang at a Golden Corral 3 times a week, get up to 330-340 and clog the middle of the field.
Crab
No Niner should be all Jabba like Gil Brown was. One thing the Niners have above and beyond every other NFL team is a ridic training program. You don’t want to see MOOB spilling out from under the new Nike unis.
I don’t know about Dorsey. I know he definitely has not lived up to expectations. Somebody who knows the Chiefs, told me the problem was a combo of bad coaching and schemes. Sounds like excuses to me. All I know is, he got handled by the the Raiders porous OL last season. That’s definitely not good
Where is the line of thought that Dorsey will be used at NT coming from? Is that speculation or has there been some reports somewhere that the 49ers intend to use him at NT?
I see him as being used in the DE rotation in the 3-4 front and moving inside in the 4-man front. He may get some snaps at NT as the swing man in the RJF mold, backing up all 3 DL positions.
Strictly speculation from Grant and a couple of others Scooter. I’m with you; I think Dorsey is used the same way RJF was.
Scooter, that would make the most sense. I really thought he would return to the Chiefs because new defensive coordinator Bob Sutton plans on running a hybrid 3/4-4/3 where Dorsey could be used pretty much the same way.
Dorsey can be viewed in the same context as Alex Smith imo: players taken very high who didn’t meet expectations, but who have quietly had better production than has been acknowledged.
Dorsey and RJF played side by side and Dorsey was the far superior prospect. He didn’t pan out in KC the way they wanted him too, but PFF detailed his play over the 2010/11 seasons as pretty good. He made a lot of tackles for a 3-4 DE and held up well against the run. He has not developed as a passrusher, but he has a lot of ability to work with and if anybody can get it out of him I’m betting it’s Tomsula.
Woah…no way. Dorsey wasn’t anywhere near as bad as Alex was pre Harbaugh. If that were true, he would not have even got an invite.
In other words Dorsey just needs the right coaching Jai.
Viewed in the same context is what I said Jai. They are obviously not exactly the same as far as their history, and Smith was hurt for a large part of the middle of his career. They both underachieved based on where they were taken, but have put up solid numbers the past few years.
Ppl have came down on a.smith too hard,i thnk he was a product of bad players around him,not to mention a half dozen off.cordinaters,we didnt get to c his full potentiol,we only got a glimpse of it the last 2yrs. he was there
Eric Branch @Eric_Branch
Spoke to Louisiana-based draft man, Mike Detillier, who saw all Glenn Dorsey’s home games at LSU. Much better “fit” inside w/ #49ers, he sez
+1
Well i like dorsey.. hes younger and stronger. Another high draft pick with a chip on his shoulder on our squad. 3 sacks 50 tackes this year
Dorsey on a weak D Line will not flourish. With our front 7 and the players next to him, he’ll be a beast!! you heard it here first. His push up the middle will require double teams. What happens to JS and RM’s games with the double team of a guy like that? what if they double JS only, frees up AS and Dorsey….scary if you ask me.
He was not used right in KC. Bad team, bad organization, bad timing for him. To stop the read option/pistol offense, you need push up the middle. This signing was strictly for the seachickens.
Good move Harbaalke!!!
Gabe Wilkins 2.0 but for less money.
lol, you had to go there.
He’s not coming in injured like Gabe did. I’m not sure how Gabe passed the physical, but…please don’t jinx it like that! Besides, we don’t over pay for people like they did for Gabe.
Those commenting on the 3-4 vs. 4-3 remember this – We are a multiple scheme and…….:
I remember when universal opinion was that Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, Novarrow Bowman, Ray McDonald and Aldon Smith were all supposed to be 4-3 defensive scheme guys and totally miscast in a 3-4. Now they just have +10 all pros and pro bowl births between them.
Fangio rarely goes 4 down lineman unless he’s in the dime package.
If by “Rarely” you mean +65% of our total defensive snaps last year, then yes. We run our 4-man front more than any other front.
Where did you get that stat from? We’re a 3-4 team not a 4-3. Who are the 4 down lineman you’re referring too? RM, IS and JS….
Big Niner our 4 down linemen were DE A. Smith and A. Brooks at DT J. Smith and R. Mc Donald
BigNiner
I think he’s referring to when we pull the NT, move the ends inside and have Aldon and Brooks go to 3 point stance as ends; it becomes a four man line.
Ok, how often was that the case? I don’t remember AS in a 3 point stance that often. That’s what a 4-3 front is. If AS standing up, then it’s a 3-4 still.
Agree with your definition. I can not answer what the actual percentage is. Maybe those here who watch more tape than I do could answer that.
Big Niner he was in a 3 pt stance everytime we were in a 4 man line. Sopoaga and RJF lined up at NT approx 35% of the time other than that we were 4-3 with Smiths hand on the ground. Anyone else out there think that or am i crazy?
Brotha,
I understand that but how often were we in that front? I remember in dime situations or big nickel sometimes. Those situations are usually on 3rd and long which would be 1/3 of the time or less not mentioning the actual converting of 1st downs on the second play of each 4 down opportunity.
So basically That formation is used to for 3rd and long and the occasional 4th and long play. The stat should be % 35 or less not %65. That was my point. Our defense is in the base formation most of the time. That’s what diferentiates our defense from other teams and is also a reason why our guys got so worn down towards the end of the year….
I hear you. I wasn’t the one who came up with the 65%. My impression was that Aldon was up on the earlier downs in either 3 or 4 fronts, like 2-6. But on 2-9/10 and 3/long he was down. Not scientific.
I bet all the OCs in our division have that break-out!
Another consideration is that whether he’s in a two or three point stance, his responsibilities are different when they run a 4front scheme vs a 3front scheme.
Big Niner,
It’s fairly simple. Chris Culliver, the Nickle/Dime corner played approximately 65% of the snaps last year, and conversely the defense played with a NT (3-4) approximately 35% of the snaps last year.
While the D’s base is a 3-4 they spend far more time in their sub packages.
The nickel package is technically 2-4-5 personnel wise but 4-2-5 formation wise.
If Welker signs elsewhere, Pat’s want to replace Welker with Amendola. Why does a small white guy always have to replace a small white guy?
Union Rules for Affirmative Action
Ha!
Amendola will put up big numbers if he goes to New England. He is a very good player. He and Welker are both Texas Tech guys.
What does race have to do with it? Amendola is a shifty WR that would fit in the offense the Patriots run. If Victor Cruz was an UFA they would probably go after him harder, but this is a team that doesn’t trade a first round pick for anybody.
What diference does it make if the guy is white?
Well I was kidding and I think Crabs was too. Everybody OK?
Agree.
Have a cold Rogue Dead Guy ale and chill…..I wasn’t serious.
Sorry guys. It’s hard to tell on here at times. I’m just not a fan of race being used as the reason one person is picked over another. I know it happens, but in my opinion you take the one who fits what you have in mind or who wows you.
Crabs,
I thought it was funny, and I’m Mr. SPF 60. Both of those dudes can ball. Good choice of beer.
All good MidWest
Seems like Edelman and Woodhead can assume Welker’s duties.
Here’s the nfl.com profile for Glenn Dorsey when he was coming out:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/glenn-dorsey?id=218
I think they’ll use him on base downs instead of J Smith. Probably 30 to 40% of the time. That would help the Cowboy be more effective of passing downs.
Re Landry, here’s something I just read in an article:
Landry’s agent, Joel Segal, also represents former Chiefs defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey, who is visiting the 49ers today.
Now bring on John Abraham.
I agree, but for cheap.
From my friend a huge Chiefs fan…”Dorsey is my favorite player. KC screwed him. He’s the most explosive DT I have ever seen out of college. Scott Pioli came in, insisted on a 3/4 and forced him out of position. He never complained. Had they used him as a 3 technique rather than an outside 5 technique, he’d be a Pro Bowler as we speak. I knew he would be the steal of Free Agency. I’m happy for him. He’s not a true NT. He will be an explosive penetrator inside on a 4 man line. …, if SF insists on a 3/4, he’s still a decent DE. KC never tried him at NT. They wanted a guy 325 or up. Dorsey is around 300.”
Sounds like Dorsey will like playing here. Wish him the best.
Maybe SF has plans for Williams in the 3-4.
I hope they draft a couple more big boys and rotate all of them to keepem fresh. Dorsey will be a nice fit, reinspired on a winning team. BIG SIGNING !!
Dorsey is not a 5 tecnique, but a 3 technique or a 1-gap NT.
From PFT:
New Eagles defensive tackle Isaac Sopoaga, freshly arrived from San Francisco, went all in during his introductory press conference. “I believe and I promise that we are going to shock the world,” Sopoaga said, via Jordan Raanan of NJ.com.
SMH….
At least he didn’t proclaim them, “the dream team…” lol
At least he didn’t proclaim that the Dream Team has returned.
It just seems that free agent press conferences bring out the Howard Dean in the freshly signed players.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcUU41zjreM
Kelly has him real psyched. That’s good. Hope he does well.
Also hope Kelly wants to do a deal for James and Rogers.
Why would “the world” give a f*** about the Philadelphia Eagles? Anyway, didn’t the Catholic Church just do that? (well, maybe not).
Your move Stinky Pete……
PFT says four teams now interested in Nnamdi:
49ers, Broncos, Cardinals, and Texans
he needs to come home…
Wes Welker has agreed to a two year deal with the Broncos. That offense is going to be tough to defend against.
Is there anyone who thinks Denver won’t be in the Super Bowl?
It’s possible George but it also depends on who gets hot at the right time.
I’ll be more convinced when they can find a way to stop the other teams from scoring just as much as they do.
It’s a wee bit early for my SB picks, George. I’ll get back to you. :>)
If denver doesn’t get home field advantage they might have a chance. I say this because of Peyton Mannings record outdoors, under 40 degrees.
Defense, defense, defense!
Sando will be posting on Dorsey “in a bit.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest
manning still can’t play in the cold
(ers sign Ian Williams then Sign G. Dorsey. Harbaugh loves competion at every position. It will make them both better.
thats 9ers
FS Kerry Rhodes was just released by the Cardinals, may be a good fit in SF.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3316/kerry-rhodes
Maybe as a stop-gap option but other than that no.
Yes, stop-gap for at least 2-3 years if he’s willing to sign for that length. His numbers are good and he is durable.
He was just as good a safety, if not better, than Goldson last year. I’d be happy with him for 3 years.
Would be a way better signing than Woodson or Landry
Exactly, younger than Woodson and more durable than Landry who is a SS.
Yeah, but what are the chances he will be undervalued?
Can he cover? If so, then why would they let him go?
The move saved Arizona $6 million against the cap and they just signed 2 players (Josh Cribbs and Lorenzo Alexander) so I’m assuming that’s why he got released.
It could also be due to the fact that the Cardinals want their secondary to get younger.
Here are his career numbers: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7299/career
http://www.nfl.com/player/kerryrhodes/2506460/careerstats
Looks good to me…
We’ve been playing him twice a year, so they must know a lot about him. Let’s see what they do. The article says it’s a buyer’s market for defensive backs. Couldn’t happen at a better time for us.
They say patience is a virtue, and for a GM it might be the best one.
Cribbs to AZ
to protect peterson on special teams from getting hurt.
I wonder if Baalke was ever really interested. Supports the view they have a bead on Mathieu.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/matt-maiocco/mutual-interest-between-asomugha-49ers
Super move, HarBaalke!!!
McDonald-Dorsey-Justin Smith
Brooks-Willis-Bowman-Aldon Smith*
As for pass rushing team, Aldon Smith moves to Justin’s spot and Justin moves to Dorsey’s spot. Parys Haralson can handle the team rush defense as well
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/saints-jump-into-the-nnamdi-chase-too/
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/56341-reed-possibly-visit-49ers/
Ravens cut Bernard Pollard. FO will already be familiar with him.
http://www.nfl.com/player/edreed/2505221/careerstats
Good Sign…..I Like
Goldson signed…..with bucs
5yrs – 41 mil
Woodson talking to niners
Nnamdi Ase……also talking to the niners
Does anybody know the required benchmarks Crabtree needs to meet in order for him to be able to void the sixth and final year of his rookie contract?
The contract can void to five years based on Pro Bowl and playing time triggers.
Playing time looks good…..Pro bowl app not good.
MWN
Technically unattainable at this point. Crabtree will be a Niner through 2014.
“The source tells us that, in his first four seasons (including 2009), Crabtree must either qualify for two Pro Bowls, or he must qualify for one Pro Bowl in one year and he must participate in 80 percent of the offensive snaps in a separate year in which the team makes the playoffs.” – PFT, 10/7/09, Rosenthal
See also: http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/11/28/3703096/michael-crabtree-contract-2012-nfl-pro-bowl-free-agent
Thus far, Crab has not made a ProBowl, so he cannot qualify for his option.
That was my main concern so it’s good to know. Maybe the team can extend him after all.
My dream scenario would be Rhodes and Nnamdi I think with those two were back to elite. IIIFFF J Smith stays healthy.
Draft D Linemen a safety and a recover with speed and hands. Yes in that order.
Nnamdi was pretty terrible last year, I really don’t think he’d be much of an upgrades over Rogers/Brown/Culliver.
Here’s a PFT article about there apparently being little interest in Cliff Avril, which would have been a surprise a month ago:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/13/no-news-is-bad-news-for-cliff-avril/
One of the points the article makes:
“One problem for Avril is that there’s a glut of defensive ends on the market: Teams don’t think they need to go hog wild for Avril when Michael Bennett, Osi Umenyiora, Dwight Freeney, John Abraham, Israel Idonije, Matt Shaughnessy and Lawrence Jackson are available, not to mention the fact that Elvis Dumervil is expected to get cut by the Broncos this week. If a defensive end is what you’re looking for, there are a lot of choices available.”
This is good for us, of course. My guess is, though, there are other things going on. If some of these are not correct, some of them certainly are:
1. The cap is rising only modestly. That’s a definite.
2. A bad economy makes it harder to raise ticket prices and parking lot fees. That the economy is bad is certain, but whether it prevents clubs from raising prices is not a given. Maybe it’s better to say that the sky is not the limit on prices.
3. There are a lot of “bad” contracts that are choking clubs. This is probably true.
4. More teams are realizing that it’s better not to participate in a buying frenzy. This is the most interesting proposition, I believe. If so, the owners are finally getting smarter and it might make it easier for us to keep players.
Avril is going to visit with the Seahawks tomorrow.
Check that, Seattle just signed him https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/311979960434827264
Honey Badger wants to play for the 49ers….is Baalke going to have to draft this kid at 34? Or can they get him at 61? Early 3rd looks to be out of the question. If I’m a scout in the war room, I’m banging the table for this kid.
There has not been many players in KC who have prospered over the past 7-10 years. Charles, Bowe, and Tamba Hali have had some success but never sustainable over time. Yet, the Chiefs have drafted high with little to show for it.
At some point the Org has to question the coaching personnel because their high draft picks have produced very little return.
In any case, I’m hoping that Dorsey was a casualty of bad coaching and that his game will elevate with our brand of coaching.
Seachickens get Cliff Avril from Detroit.
Well played Stinky Pete….
Is anyone mentioning Nnamdi as a FS?
Nnamdi played FS in 41 games at Cal, apparently.
I don’t think that is correct. Where did you see that? I grew up in Berkeley and pay pretty close attention to Cal athletics. I remember him as a corner.
You need contact courage to play FS. Namdi is lacking there.
BTW nice call on Dorsey a while back.
Fun to look back to 2008 when Niners got Justin Smith:
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/010903.html
“So if Smith’s so great, how come the Bengals didn’t put up more of a fight to retain him? One reason may be the Bengals’ reluctance to pay any player a huge salary like the 49ers are poised to do for Smith. Another is that Cincinnati is turning to a more traditional 3-4 defense, one in which the ends are huge men approaching 300 pounds in weight. Smith, at around 275 pounds, simply wouldn’t have fit their plans.”
Dorsey’s deal is for 2 years.
Avril to the Seahawks. Man this division just got a lot harder. we shouldn’t overreact but man! How do we counter something like that? they just got a pass rusher in his prime to add to the monster defense. I am nervous I have to admit. What moves can we make to strengthen our defense?
Our Offensive Line will be able to handle Stinky Petes’ new toy. Steady there young padawan.
with there cb’s holding so much, a guy like Avril will add a lot a pressure on Kap.
For the same reasons you should be happy that Baalke isn’t chasing after every shiny object in free agency, you probably shouldn’t worry too much about other teams’ grabbing one of those shiny objects.
Avril didn’t present the 49ers with any problems when he played with Suh and Fairly. What makes you think he will get better playing with Seattle’s defensive line?
Add a player like him to a monster defense like theirs and it’s going to present issues. SUH and fairly are over rated. Their DB’s will be adding time to that pass rush. They might not even need to blitz to add pressure.
I find it strangely comforting that the Seabastards are playing the Redskins/Eagles/Lions game in free agency so far.
Agreed Clemons. Let them over pay for a handful of players while the 49ers set themselves up for a long run at the top.
We have played Detroit twice during the Harbaugh era and don’t recall Avril being a problem.
Sorry, that’s what you said, CB.
That’s OK. It was worth repeating.
W.Sapp and Poli both feel that the 49ers have really improved themselves with their free agent signings of Boldin and Dorsey.
Sapp went on to say that he can’t believe that the league has allowed an already strong team like the 49ers become even stronger.
BTW, huge apologies (to my blog family and to KNBR) for reporting earlier that Vince Young was coming in for a workout with the 49ers.
I was in a phone convo with a contractor when I (somewhat) heard the KNBR report. I did not hear the part where VY was actually coming to the raiders for a workout.
I will receive my purification in the morning! (Braveheart)
What’s sap talking about………smaller rosters and the salary cap are the leagues way of limiting the 49ers.
This signing fills a need, as well as offers some positional versatility. Dorsey should be able to compete with Williams for the starting NT spot as well as provide depth behind Smith and McDonald. I believe the team might try and rotate more on run downs to keep their better interior rushers fresh (Smith and McDonald) for their passing sub package.
I still think the team drafts more of a “traditional” 3-4 DE to groom as a replacement for Smith. Personally, I’m intrigued by Jesse Williams from Alabama. He has experience at both DE and NT in the Alabama 3-4. He received top notch coaching from the Alabama staff and should be able to contribute right away, whether by his own performance or due to injury.
In my opinion, one of the Niners’ keys to success is the instilling of a family atmosphere in their building, in their locker room, and on the field. Here is one of the things Dorsey told Matt Maiocco today:
“It’s a positive atmosphere. Everybody is working hard and talking to each other. And you can feel it when you walk into the building. It’s like a big family. Everybody is high-fiving each other, talking to each other. It’s a different environment than what I’m used to. I’m excited about it and I’m excited to get going.”
One of the things he also said that it was Coach Tomsula who met him at the airport last night. About Tomsula, Dorsey said,
“He has a lot of energy. He’s a great guy. He picked me up at the airport and he was talking 100 mph. We talked about a lot of stuff. I’m excited to get an opportunity work with him.”
I can’t wait to see what he can bring to the team. Will they use him as just a replacement for IS or RJF. I hope there is more.
Well said George.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/56361-louis-delmas-visit-49ers/
Interesting….
Would be okay with that even if he didnt have a great year last year
Delmas? but he’s injury prone
What do you guys think of the two safeties that the Cardinals let go? I’m guessing they would be too much. I just question the durability of Woodson and Delmas.
Wilson is 33 and on the decline. Rhodes would be too expensive IMO.
This is a terrible signing. Goodness. We are losing some key pieces. :(