49ers assistant-coach prediction contest

Time for another prediction contest. This time, I want you to predict:

  1. Kyle Shanahan’s defensive coordinator for 2017
  2. Kyle Shanahan’s offensive coordinator for 2017
  3. Kyle Shanahan’s quarterbacks coach for 2017
  4. Kyle Shanahan’s quarterback for 2017
  5. Kyle Shanahan’s No. 1 receiver for 2017

Winner gets major props.

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  1. Kyle Shanahan’s defensive coordinator for 2017-Saleh/Henderson will hold until 2018-Fangio
    Kyle Shanahan’s offensive coordinator for 2017-Tom Wrathman
    Kyle Shanahan’s quarterbacks coach for 2017-Mike LeFleur
    Kyle Shanahan’s quarterback for 2017-Tyrod Taylor
    Kyle Shanahan’s No. 1 receiver for 2017-Kenny Britt

    1. The DC won’t be this guy. Even as the Press and Little Cohney rip on Shanahan, Quinn fires the real problem:

      Falcons defensive coordinator Richard Smith will not continue in that role following Atlanta’s historic collapse in Super Bowl LI, The Sporting News is reporting.

      The website, citing sources, reported late Tuesday that Smith could be moved to another staff position, although it did not have details. Sporting News also reported that Bryan Cox will be replaced as defensive line coach.

      The #27 NFL defense that, after playing completely over it’s head, was completely stymied by the simple adjustment of Brady going to the shotgun.

  2. Good thought-provoking questions. One thing is certain and a common denominator. None of them are currently on the staff or on the roster. Shanahan will not want to start out behind the 8 ball.

  3. 1. 3. I don’t know
    2. Kyle Shanahan
    4. Colin Kaepernick
    5a. Torry Smith.
    5b. Smelter, Rogers or Ellington if they can stay healthy
    5c. A Tight End
    5d. Corey Davis

    1. If only!

      McDaniel for OC would be the real win…one of the smartest guys in football…if Fangio ever came back, hope I don’t wake up!

  4. Woo, major props! I’m in!

    – DC: Jason Tarver
    – OC: Bobby Turner
    – QB Coach: Rich Scangarello
    – QB: Brian Hoyer
    – #1 WR: Torrey Smith (in terms of yards)/ Jeremy Kerley (in terms of catches)

      1. If they trade down in the draft to accumulate a large block of talent, then Ponder might just end up as the QB next year. CK will be gone and the QBs mentioned above are no better than Ponder. It is not a QB they need now, it is an offensive line that needs help as well as another running back, a couple of WR that can stretch the field and a defense that can stop the run and defend the pass. After that is done you get a QB that doesn’t have to run for his life in order to through the ball away. .

  5. OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR – Bobby Turner

    DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR – Brian Flores

    2017 QUARTERBACK – Matt Schaub and Deshaun Watson

    2017 NUMBER ONE WIDE RECEIVER – Corey Davis

  6. OC -Tom Rafthman-why not Kyle is calling the plays anyway
    DC -Raheem Morris or Jeff Ulbrich
    QB Coach -Mike McDaniel
    QB–Cousins
    #1 Receiver-Jefferies

  7. I like Brian Flores. The way he handles linebackers out there in new England, would-be interesting to see what he can do with a whole unit

  8. DC – Mike Nolan
    OC – Chip Kelly
    QBC – Mike Shanahan
    QB – Blaine Gabbart
    WR – Bruce Ellington

    What did I win? oh yeah, something called Major Props!

    1. rocket – I like Garoppolo. I like Williams too. I keep going back and forth on Corey Davis and Williams. Both very good.

      1. B2W,

        You’re right; both are very good. I don’t think there is a right or wrong answer as both look to be legit #1 WR options.

    2. Garoppolo is my preferred choice, but there is no way he is worth a first round pick, especially the second pick of the draft.

      1. A first round pick or the number 1 pick overall? The consensus opinion in the NFL appears to be he is better than every quarterback coming out this year. So if the niners wanted him… why not trade back pick up another number one next year and trade away the later first round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo?

      2. Mid,

        I think the Pats would do it for the Niners 2nd and something next year. I could be wrong obviously, but knowing Belichick, he’ll want to get something for Garoppolo before losing him and I don’t see anyone offering a 1st round pick for an unproven commodity no matter how much potential he may have.

    1. I’ve heard the arrogant assessment of him before. Hopefully he has grown and matured in that area because he’s going to need thick skin and humility to make it as a HC in the NFL.

      1. I’m not overly worried about it, but it is a potential reason why he might struggle as a HC. Its what did Josh McDaniels in at the Broncos.

    2. Once again, someone is basing their take on their beliefs more than anything else. And Shanahan has already owned up to the loss, even though he really wasn’t a factor in the loss. People need to let this go already.

        1. Based on their own belief of what they would do.
          Coffee posted a good article on this discussion.

    1. Good points, except nobody is saying Shanahan should have gone conservative for entire drives or for the entire second half.

              1. I know and I do see your point, but I still think this would not be a discussion point if the players had done their jobs. Heck, the play calling later may have been different if Freeman had made a better effort to block Hightower.

          1. Yes, you have been very vocal about this. But if players always executed and did their jobs, Chip Kelly would be hoisting a Lombardi right now.

            1. There I will disagree. While the players are the main factor, the scheme can hurt the offense if the opposition is lining up in a way to defend against the play called before the offense has got into position.

              1. Again, hyperbole on my part for effect. The point is, players needing to execute is hardly a ground breaking idea. Of course they do. And yes, mistakes by players can bring certain coaching decisions into sharp focus when if everyone executes as planned there would be little or no scrutiny. I am not and have not been debating that.

              2. Player injury should also be factored in. Coleman was the better blocker, but was injured just before the fumble.

                Freeman sure whiffed. A split second more, and Ryan would have gotten off that pass.

              3. Yep. Even if Ryan had failed to connect with the open receiver, it still would been beneficial to the Falcons.

              4. “True, but that has been part of my point.”

                I know. And I haven’t been disagreeing with it. I’ve just been disagreeing with the idea Shanahan is blameless.

              5. Based on what I have saw, Shanahan did nothing wrong on either called play. I cannot say Shanahan called a good game because I have not watched the entire game, so I can only base it on what I have watched of it. What I can argue is that the type of play call at that point of the game did not affect the game as much as the mistakes by the players, regardless of whether the play called was right or wrong. There could be plays that we deemed fantastic based on the outcome of it that Shanahan is kicking himself for calling despite the outcome of it, and there could plays called resulting some investing Shanahan voodoo dolls that Shanahan himself believes were the right calls despite the bad outcomes.

              6. Yes, I have come to be well aware you do not see anything wrong with the calls themselves. :-) This is where we disagree.

              7. And we probably we continue to do so Scooter. I did not find anything wrong with the chosen plays, but Shanahan could feel different about them. Nevertheless, I think the miscues by the players negates the debate about the called plays because the end results may have been different had the players done their job. Everything else is based mainly on how the one viewing the game interpreted the play as being good or bad.

    2. Execution above scheme has always been my motto but I think the real point of the article is to show that being aggressive wasn’t Shanahan’s sin.

      1. I came away with the understanding the author is saying there is little/ no value in changing your overall offensive approach at the end of the game to “put it away”. But that pertains to an overall approach – not a specific game situation (such as when you have driven to within scoring range using your normal offensive approach, and a score would win the game).

      2. It really sounds more like he’s blaming the players but to my point you can remain aggressive and not put your players in a bad position. On the third and one there’s plenty of pass plays that would be deemed aggressive that wouldn’t have put Ryan in position to even be touched.

              1. Maybe, but that does not mean the play would have worked out well for the Falcons. Freeman could have been injured (which would have resulted in the Falcons becoming one-dimensional), or a fumble could have occurred with the result of the Patriots recovering it. Once again, it goes back to the players doing their assigned task.

            1. Grant – What you are talking about in you gross negligence claim is strategy and not tactics. I see nothing wrong with KS’ strategy which was to call a play that may surprise the Pats. According to Cosell, the receiver that Ryan was attempting to throw to was wide open. It was therefore a good strategy. As far as tactics, clearly there was a breakdown in pass protection since no one blocked Hightower. Your argument about gross negligence is the conclusion on which you base your facts. I am not certain that Freeman was at fault because he is clearly looking to the middle of the field to pick up a blitzer and sees Hightower too late. We jump to the conclusion that he screwed up since he was right at the scene of the crime. But viewed closely on the reply the pass rusher that lined up in front of the RT did a stunt to the middle of the field and maybe Freeman thought that that was his responsibility instead of outside. You cannot know unless you know precisely what the pass protection scheme was on the play. I see nothing wrong with a strategy that tries to take advantage of thinking out of the box. Brady won his first SB when the Pats got the ball with game tied and very little time and all the experts predicted they would run out the clock and take it to overtime. Well, guess what? The Pats went against conventional wisdom and went straight down the field to win in regulation. Even John Madden was wrong.

              1. Hightower ran right by Freeman. Even if if was not his man, he should have blocked any rusher so the pass rusher does not have a free shot at the QB.

              2. “I see nothing wrong with KS’ strategy which was to call a play that may surprise the Pats. According to Cosell, the receiver that Ryan was attempting to throw to was wide open. It was therefore a good strategy.”

                No. An individual play call is a tactic, not the strategy. Said play call may be consistent with the strategy, which is the overarching plan as to how to beat the other team’s defense, but individual calls in and of themselves are tactics designed to further the strategy. This play call does appear to be consistent with the strategy employed by the Falcon’s offense for the game, but the play call itself is a tactic.

                “As far as tactics, clearly there was a breakdown in pass protection since no one blocked Hightower.”

                This is may be a flaw of the tactic employed (the play call), in that it did not account for the tactics of the defense. Or, it may be an execution issue, which is not tactical in nature. But it is not an example of a tactic in and of itself.

                Finally, gross negligence, also known as recklessness, is a conscious disregard of a known risk or a voluntary and knowing decision to not exercise reasonable care. It does not seem to be outside the bounds of credibility that the play call may meet the definition above.

              3. “This play call does appear to be consistent with the strategy employed by the Falcon’s offense for the game, but the play call itself is a tactic.” – As one would expect JPN, your wordsmith skills exceed mine, but were I as skilled with words, I would have made the exact points you made. (1) Since you agree with this play being consistent with what appeared to be the Falcons strategy, it cannot be dismissed as manifestly an act of gross negligence and (2) we do not have sufficient facts to know if the play was poorly designed or merely poorly executed. I wish I was as articulate as you are.

            1. Nice try, but as I have been saying, and will keep saying, is the view of whether the play calling was good or bad is being based on the outcome of the play. I am not basing it on that because bad calls can be turned into a positive by the players on the field, and good calls can look bad based on how the same players execute their assignment in the play. If taking an objective view makes me a Shanapologist in the eyes of those who refuse to look objectively at the called plays, then so be it. That is sheer foolishness by those calling me that due to their viewpoint of the called plays, but that’s just my take.

              1. Do you think a running play would have been safer than a slow developing pass play? Keep in mind that NE was desperate and sending pressure.

              2. Are you saying that any play in that situation would have been a good call no matter what? How about a flea flicker or a HB pass?

              3. To your first response:
                Yes and no. They may have been able to chew up some time on the clock or even turned it into a first down, but Freeman also could have been injured, fumbled, or lost massive yardage by trying to scramble away from a strong run defense. Either way, it would have required the players to effectively execute their assigned task.

                To your second post:
                No I am not. I am saying any play could have looked or bad depending on how the players did their assignments for the call and the decisions made after the ball was snapped.

              4. What about the other side of the ball? If the Pats and Falcons both execute then what happens? Zero yards?

                If it’s all about execution why even have an OC? Just pick a play out of a hat.

              5. That is where skill set, decision-making, and athleticism come into play. A great example is the acrobatic Julio Jones top tapping catch. I am probably on the other spectrum of those who saw the play because I believe the play was a bad call which was saved thanks to Jones, thus making it look like good play-calling.

              6. Ultimately, that Jones play was executed. So how can you say it was a bad call if it’s all about execution.

              7. Because I did not think it was a good call. Just because a play nets a positive result does not mean it was a good call. But it looked good because of the effort by Jones. But in my opinion, the pass was too wide and dangerous.

              8. Maybe the Falcons should have invited the blitz, then, they could have taken advantage of the area the blitzer left.

                Think one step ahead.

              9. Was that because of the players or the play-calling though? And why couldn’t Ryan have thrown away the ball?

              10. Players or play calling? It was both.

                Ryan could have threw it away and it would have stopped the clock. That is another reason it was a bad play to call.

              11. Maybe another way to get the ball in Julio Jone’s hands would have been to run a WR reverse. Less chance of an incomplete pass or a disastrous sack.

              12. I disagree because there is not enough available for us to know if the play was supposed to develop at that speed.
                If every called play that ended with the QB getting sacked or forced to throw was the ball away was a bad call, then there probably would be no such thing as good play calling. While it is true there could be a bad play called, it is also true that a play date be busted by an instinctive defender seeing through it, or by someone on the offense failed to do their assigned tasks due to their own mistake or simply being outmatched.

              13. Maybe another way to get the ball in Julio Jone’s hands would have been to run a WR reverse. Less chance of an incomplete pass or a disastrous sack.

                Not true. During the reverse, someone could mess up on the exchange, or a defender could see through the WR reserve and blow it up in the backfield; either situation could result in a huge loss of yardage or the Patriots coming up with the football.

              14. A QB getting sacked or having to throw the ball away was an unnecessary risk to take. That is why it was a bad play call.

                If you run, the running back can fumble or lose yards. If you pass, The QB can fumble, lose yards, throw a pick, or stop the clock by throwing it away. That’s two more negative possibilities.

              15. More negative possibilities does not always equate to something bad is more like to happen with one type of play. And you try to use two situations that do not prove a play was bad play calling to explain your reasoning for the call to be bad, and it a sweeping generalization. If we were to go along with it, then that means a penalty or mistake made by a player on the offense means the play calling was bad.

              16. More possible negative outcomes matter when you are in FG range and that FG would give you a two possession lead with little time remaining.

                Kyle had the game won and took an unnecessary risk.

          1. With the league’s MVP, and 4 time pro bowl QB at the helm? I think not. The veteran QB has got to be aware of situational football, and Ryan simply froze like a deer in headlights! If the Falcons were working with a young QB, say Dak Prescott, or even a 2nd or 3rd year player, say Ryan Tannehil, then I would give credence to your point.

            Joe Montana would NEVER have made the mistake of holding the ball too long , I’ll tell you that! A veteran QB has got to have his internal clock in sink with the situation at hand, and Ryan choked, end of story. Remember, they were still in FG range even after that sack. I suppose Kyle is also responsible for the subsequent holding call on the very next play? SMH!

            1. And, the tighter the game got, the tighter the players played. Which is often the difference between perennial World Champions and everyone else!

              The Falcons simply wilted under pressure. They were not quite ready for the moment!

              1. NFL.COM: Mitch Trubisky, QB, NC – Adequate height with good muscular definition. Built to withstand physical challenges of the position. Calm field general. Very good pocket mobility. Can slide around circumference of the pocket without having to drop his eyes from their task. When he leaves the pocket, looks to challenge with his arm before defaulting to his feet. Always in ready-to-rip throwing posture. Delivery is crisp and efficient. Locates safeties and reads their intentions immediately after the snap. Quick through his progressions and will double back to targets if his protection allows him time. Pocket mechanics and throwing motion are solid. Tough and competitive. Shows courage and poise in the pocket. Throws passes from balanced platforms and rarely defaults to an off-balance throw unnecessarily. Has all the arm you need. NFL call sheets will be wide open with Trubisky at the helm. Can dial up deep field-side outs with accuracy. Ball comes humming out of his hand when he needs to spike his velocity. Arm talent to whip a catchable throw from difficult angles to targets outside the numbers. Makes the standard “pitch and catch” throws with consistent accuracy. Ball usually comes out on time. His 62.1 completion percentage on intermediate throws easily outpaces the top quarterbacks in this draft. Possesses get-away quickness to avoid sudden pressure from a-gap blitzers with the speed to damage the defensive cause once he leaves the pocket.

                BALLER! In the mold of Derek Carr in many respects, although not nearly as much experience. That said, Trubisky has the edge in terms of Comp%, Passer Rating, & TD/INT ratio. Also, Trubisky appears to have a slight edge in my book in terms of pocket presence, ability to extend plays, and scrambling/run ability!

                TRUBISKY’S College Stats: 363 of 533, 68.1%, 4,482 yds, 39 TD, 8 INT, 158.3 Rating
                Trubisky’s Combine measurables: TBD

                CARR’S College Stats: 66.7 Comp%, 12,843 Yds, 113 TD, 24 INT, 152.9 Rating.
                Carr’s offical Combine measurables: 6 ft 2  3⁄8 in, 214 lb, 31½ in arm, 9⅛ in hand, 4.69 s 40, 1.64 s split. Wonderlic Score = 20 (Alex Smith Wonderlic Score = 40)

              2. NFL.COM: BOTTOM LINE – Trubisky is a high-end quarterback prospect who possesses NFL size, a big arm and the ability to throw with accuracy from the pocket or on the move. Despite playing in a spread-based offense, he’s a full-field reader who does a very good job of getting an early read on the safeties before crafting his course of action. Trubisky will have to become much more pocket aware and do a better job of recognizing and attacking blitzes to back NFL defensive coordinators off. He hasn’t put all the pieces together yet, but the puzzle is all right in front. Trubisky projects as a good starting quarterback with a high floor and the potential to be great.

    3. This is the best part of the article.

      All the X’s and O’s can’t overcome a dropped pass or a mental error.

  9. Grading the NFL coaching hires: Rams, Bills get high marks, but Shanahan trumps all

    Handing out grades for all the coaches hired, including Kyle Shanahan joining the 49ers
    Will Brinson mugshot
    by Will Brinson

     @WillBrinson

    Feb 07, 2017 • 8 min read
    CBS Sports Home

    Bear in mind the criteria isn’t simply “who did this team hire?” There are other components, including the personnel around the coach, his likelihood of success and the range of options a team had for each hire.

    Los Angeles Rams
    Coach: Sean McVay
    Grade: B

    San Francisco 49ers
    Coach: Kyle Shanahan
    Grade: B+

  10. *(Kyle Shanahan) This hire became a lot more interesting and scrutinized after Shanahan caught flak for not running the football late in the Falcons’ 34-28 Super Bowl LI loss to the Patriots on Sunday night. Shanahan mostly called a very good game, and he hung 21 points on a Bill Belichick defense (that prepared for two weeks), with all of the points coming in the middle two quarters. The 49ers being the last team standing after every other opening was quickly filled turned out to be a good thing…

  11. 1.DC: Saleh and Jerome Henderson but hoping for Brian Flores or Ed Donatell

    2.OC: Bobby Turner

    3.QB Coach: Greg Knapp/Mike LaFleur

    4.QB- Jay Cutler

    5. WR- I hope we draft Mike Williams in which case it would be him. Otherwise it will be a FA pickup. Possibly Pierre Garcon

  12. OC: Seb,because he thinks he is already.
    DC: Jack Hammer, with a name like that what else would he be?
    QB Coach: Prime Time, so he and Seb, can continue to argue constantly.
    QB: Kap, because Seb could not live without him.
    WR Coach: #80, the #of the best receiver ever.
    WR: It doesn’t matter because Kap will be the QB.
    Assistant head Coachs: Scooter and Mid West, voices of reason
    Director of PR: Grant, now those press conferences will be fun.
    VP in charge of Nothing with a yuge salary: 49er42, because I would love to get paid for doing nothing.

      1. Prime should be the Water Boy. I would like to be the QB coach. Like Jeff Garcia said- ‘Pretty pretty please?

        I would turn Kaep loose, and let him take the league by storm.

    1. Nice, I made the staff. My first job will be teaching double moves. My WRs will practice by catching bricks instead of footballs.
      :-)

          1. I am thinking of using Armstead’s basketball skills. Let him line up at TE then throw a jump ball.

            Hopefully, Ellington and Blake Bell could factor in the passing game, too.

              1. Maybe they will use him correctly instead of playing him out of position.

                Making him the PR and KR was just setting him up for an injury.

    2. May I suggest in the spirit of this line of “reasoning” hightop as DL coach because that is precisely what one wants a lineman wearing and because oh just because…

  13. I think Jeff would be the perfect fit for QBC. He’s dying for an opportunity to show what he’s got. Dorsey is a local kid from the east bay who has blossomed in Carolina who also is a Forty Niner alumni. I watched a ton of college football this year and Mahomes was far and away the best I saw. Amazing potential. Just wait till the combines. He will shine, I guarantee it. I think there will be a three way competition for QB, with some combination of either Cousins or Hoyer, Gabbert, Mahomes and possibly CK. I think Pat will beat Hoyer out if its him. If it’s Cousins, he’ll be the backup and Gabbert or CK will hold the clip board. Jeffery is KS’s Forty Niner replacement for Jones in his offense. Pettine will be the seasoned coordinator with experience. Good mix of young and old.

    1. Just had to shake my head. In the second half, with a big lead, they ran the ball 5 times. Saw a stat where they hiked the ball with 12 seconds on the play clock. They should have bled down the clock til less than 5 seconds every time.

  14. DC – Jim O’neal

    OC – Geep Chryst

    qb coach – Mike Singletary

    qb – Kap (he is just about to turn the corner

    No. 1 receiver – Trent Brown (he has great hands)

    1. Neither Super Bowl teams had a high draft-pick prototypical NFL RB. Current NFL game thrives on fast, smart, pass-catching RBs with a third-day pick (or UDFA) thumper like Blount for variety and short yardage.

  15. Richard Smith for DC anyone? Talk about an overreaction to losing a SB. If he is indeed let go he will make a lot of sense for KS. Have worked together at the Texans and Falcons as OC/DC pairing.

    1. That would be idiotic of the Falcons if they did let him go. While his unit did not fare well overall, there were definitely signs of the defense coming together by the end of their run to the Super Bowl. Youth mainly did that defense in.

      1. Agree it would be stupid. Cam Inman is speculating that Smith not being brought back as DC doesn’t mean they will let him go, but that they will make him a consultant/ advisor in the same way the Texans are doing with Crennel, so Ulbrich can become the DC. If that’s the case, that makes sense.

    2. Why would want a DC that presided over one of the worst defenses in the NFL and couldn’t adjust to a simple adjustment made by the Patriots leading to an epic collapse?

      Seriously, all the Pats did was move Brady to the shotgun. And the Falcons went to hell…

  16. John Lynch interviewed for 20 minutes on PFT Live. Worth a listen.

    He’s saying that there will be a 50/50 partnership with regards to the draft, free agency, 90 and the 53 man roster. He wasn’t real clear on what happens with ties, but apparently there is some sort of tiebreaker process. Talked about Marathe and analytics as well – feels PM has gotten a bad rap. Considerable work to do at that premium position, he says (pretty sure he means QB).

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/07/john-lynch-declines-to-set-timeline-for-construction-of-new-offense/

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/07/john-lynch-declines-to-set-timeline-for-construction-of-new-offense/

  17. Had to repost this – not sure it’s viewable. Message says awaiting moderation:

    John Lynch interviewed for 20 minutes on PFT Live. Worth a listen.

    He’s saying that there will be a 50/50 partnership with regards to the draft, free agency, 90 and the 53 man roster. He wasn’t real clear on what happens with ties, but apparently there is some sort of tiebreaker process. Talked about Marathe and analytics as well – feels PM has gotten a bad rap. Considerable work to do at that premium position, he says (pretty sure he means QB).

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/07/john-lynch-declines-to-set-timeline-for-construction-of-new-offense/

    1. Anal Lytics do have place in the football decision making process, but they should be used as a tool, and not have anal lytics dictate what is to be run, because it becomes way too predictable.

      Hope Lynch thinks it through. Wonder if he wants to have Kaep play for him, or against him.

          1. Anal lytics drove Bill Walsh away. They are a big reason why they drafted ACL players. They are why they punted from the opponents’ 40 yard line.They are why the Niners kept running into the teeth of the defense.

            People who like anal lytics like to lose.

        1. Not in football. It’s about resource allocation to maximize your over-all talent as not all positions, and their production, are of equal value or impact to the bottom-line of winning.

  18. One thing this debacle taught us, is that maybe the HC should delegate, but also have final say on the play calling.

    Chip called all the plays, and did not delegate, and we all saw how that turned out.

    Hope KS will take an interest in the defense, too. A HC should be involved in the whole game plan, but his main task should be game management. He should consider time outs to be precious, and saved for legitimate challenges and the last 2 minutes of each half.

    KS should let his OC and DC do their jobs, but he should orchestrate everything.

  19. Seriously though, this site has to be fixed. I have to make a non football post like this at the bottom just to see all of the comments.

  20. Charles Haley is a HOFer. Was he a good teammate?

    http://www.barstoolsports.com/philadelphia/not-enough-people-seem-to-remember-hof-de-charles-haley-was-a-madman-and-used-to-jerk-off-in-team-meetings/

    “Haley, on his way from the bathroom to a team meeting, pulled down his pants, wiped his a$$, and then threw his sh$#-stained toilet paper at 49ers coach John Marshall.”

    “He also once berated Steve Young with the following tirade after a loss. “I could have F’n won that game in my sleep. You’re a MFing p*$$y f@#got quarterback with no balls.”

    By the way, that book was published before the HOF vote.

    1. It’s not about being a good teammate. It’s about the press and their hurt feelings. You don’t kiss their ass, they’re going shiv you. You kiss their ass, you end up in the HOF even if you don’t deserve it like many recent inductees.

      1. It’s about TO being cut or traded from teams in his prime and when a receiver was needed and on playoff contenders at the time. If it happens once like With Haley & you win 2 more Super Bowls-then cool. If you get dumped off 3 high level teams and by the Bills & Cincinatti at the end of your career because your a pain in the ass and your QBs hate you your not a HOF player. Numbers are great, but football is the ultimate team sport and I think your level of distraction and winning championships should matter. And as a Niner fan -no way in hell should TO get in before Roger Craig!

        1. There is no justifiable argument for not electing Owens to the HOF. He was one of the most dominant WR’s in the history of the game, and ranks near the top in receiving yards and TD’s all time. The only thing keeping him out is personal dislike of his antics during his career by voters and it really makes them look incompetent and petty. There are a number of players in the HOF who were drug addicts, had criminal records, and stats that pale in comparison to Owens. He should have gotten in last year on his first year of eligibility. The HOF has become a joke and features numerous players who don’t belong in it simply due to the voters having a bias or sense of obligation to put them in after a certain period of time. The whole process needs to be overhauled with new policies and voters imo.

      1. Mood,

        A little context on TO.

        http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2604395

        “Then came news late Tuesday that Owens was taken in an ambulance to an emergency room. Details from the police report that came out Wednesday morning included words like suicide, overdose, and depression.

        Bandit,

        “It’s about TO being cut or traded” Haley was cut or traded too.

              1. Trade. Check it out for a laugh. It was a massive fiasco and a too-big story in the media.
                Nano short take:
                TO thought he was a UFA but it was contested
                SF trade him to Balt
                Nflpa filed one grievance
                TO works out agreement w/ Philly cuz he expects to win
                Balt reversed trade
                SF trade TO to Philly for a 5th and journeyman DL
                Typical diva show

              1. Not really. Haley was traded because of his behavior and Owens was released because of his behavior. Both were cases where the player was a problem for the team he was playing for.

  21. Kyle Shanahan’s defensive coordinator for 2017. Robert Saleh
    Kyle Shanahan’s offensive coordinator for 2017. Matt LaFleur if the Rams don’t get him.
    Kyle Shanahan’s quarterbacks coach for 2017. Who knows.
    Kyle Shanahan’s quarterback for 2017. Matt Schaub.
    Kyle Shanahan’s No. 1 receiver for 2017. Alshon Jeffery.

  22. OC – Don’t know, is not important with KS there
    DC – My preference was Fangio, but failing that Mike Nolan or Leslie Frazier
    QB – It looks more and more like Kap will be with the Niners. yeah!!!!
    RB – Hyde and FA
    WR – Alshon Jeffery (If he gets out of Chicago)

  23. Sorry I’m of knowledgeable enough to compete in this contest…but what I do know is that I’m glad we have Lynch to help choose the next DC, that gives me a lot more confidence in the hire regardless who it is

    1. I think Lynch will be a very good GM. It might take a year or two. I posted a link above to a 20 minute interview he gave yesterday on PFT live. Worth a listen if you get a chance. He seems to be cognizant of his deficiencies and strengths and will augment the deficiencies by bringing in talent. For as much as we have all railed on Jed York, I think he did a good job and if nothing else, I really have the sense that he wants to field a winning team and is willing to put up the money to do it. It sounds like Jed will now step out of the way and let the new GM and HC build the team.

      1. I did give it a listen, thanks for that cubus.

        I agree, I think in 2-3 yrs down the line we’re going to see Lynch’s imprint all over this team. Guys that love the game, love to play physical, and are leaders of men. I was skeptical, and to some extent still am, but every time I listen to this guy and hear more and more about him that skepticism fades away a little more. I’m excited for the next few years.

  24. Ian Rapoport

    The plan for #49ers coach Kyle Shanahan is to have QB coach Rich Scangarello, run-game guru Mike McDaniel…and coordinate the offense himself

  25. I guess those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

    Chip was the HC last year, and called his own plays. Do not think a 2-14 record justifies another HC calling his own plays.

    KS should get smart and delegate the play calling to the OC so he can attract a good OC, instead of a Modkins type, who seemed to call all the bad plays.

    If KS wants to call all the plays, maybe he should have just stayed an OC. Of course, he, as the HC should just concentrate on the overall game management and allow the OC and DC to do their jobs.

    However, last game was a good example of a HC not being engaged enough. Quinn should have over ruled KS and called for safe plays that did not risk moving back out of FG range. There needs to be a balance, and the HC needs to delegate, but also orchestrate.

    Sure hope KS learns from his mistakes.

    1. Darn that Walsh for calling his own plays. Just think of how many 16-0 seasons we would have had if his non-existent OC would have called them…

  26. This one is pretty difficult, eh?

    Time pretty soon here to kick John Lynch upstairs, make him President of the team, like they should have done when they hired him, and make Adam Peters or another as yet unknown candidate the GM.

    1. Giving the job of President to someone
      who has no experience in the field .. is
      tantamount to creating a disaster of
      epic proportions

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