Chip Kelly says Colin Kaepernick will not play Saturday against Broncos

This is the transcript of Chip Kelly’s Thursday press conference, courtesy of the 49ers’ P.R. department.

 

How did you feel about how practice went yesterday and what you guys were able to accomplish?

“I thought there were ups and downs. There were some positives that you can build on in certain situations and there were some other things that we had to clean up. So, you hope that day two is better than day one.”

 

We were told yesterday that QB Colin Kaepernick might do a little bit more with his arm today. Is that still the plan?

“Yeah, that’s the plan. We have a plan for him going forward, just they’re easing him back into throwing right now. Talking to him, he says he feels really good about it. But, we don’t want to throw him back out there and then have a setback right now. So, as we said before, from what we understand it’s not a long-term thing, it’s about just getting him back into it. So, he’ll throw a little bit more today and what [quarterbacks coach] Ryan [Day] will do with him in drills and see how he feels and continue to progress him and hopefully we can get him back full next week.”

 

Will you do any easing him into seven-on-seven or anything like that?

“Today? No. He’s just going to be throwing with the quarterbacks and the receivers. He won’t be doing anything against Denver.”

 

Obviously not playing Saturday, do you think he’ll maybe play the following week?

“That’s the plan is to see if we can get him ready so that he’s full-go.””

 

Will QB Christian Ponder play in the game?

“I think so. You know, it was interesting. When we got Christian, he came into the tail end of training on Tuesday and then we jumped on a plane and every time the threes were up, he jumped in there. So, him learning the new terminology. As I’ve said before, everybody runs the same things. It’s just kind of how you call it. I thought for the first time out there, I told him, it’s kind of like riding a bike. For him, he’s got to knock the rust off a little bit. But, for the first time out there, he did a good job. Obviously, if we get him in on Saturday in the game, it will be limited in terms of what do you feel real comfortable throwing, what do you feel real comfortable running. But, for the first day, I was kind of impressed how much he picked up.”

 

Just to clarify with Colin, are you guys just being really cautious with him, like could he practice if you wanted him to?

“No, I think it’s a plan with the medical staff and us put together a plan for him. So, I don’t think it’s he can go and we’re holding him back. I’m sure he may feel that way. We want to, what’s the best thing for him in terms of making sure that he’s 100-percent and ready to go.”

 

When you talk to him about that, is he fully on board?

“Yeah. He was good. He’s involved in every discussion. It’s not like we’re telling him what to do because he’s the one who ultimately knows how he feels. But, it’s like a lot of times when you have a muscle injury, all of a sudden, ‘Hey, I feel great,’ and then all of a sudden you hear the guy re-injures it because they pushed themselves a little bit too far. So, we want to err on the side of caution and make sure that he’s 100-percent as we get rolling here.”

 

And is this considered a muscle injury?

“Yes.”

 

Muscle fatigue?

“You can call it whatever you want.”

 

I’m not a doctor.

“I’m not a doctor either. That’s why you can call it whatever you want.”

 

You’ve been consulting with doctors though.

“You can go to Web M.D. I think. See what that says (laughing).”

 

I’m not sure they’re up on Colin Kaepernick’s–.

“Just see what words they can use. Fatigue. Whatever you want to call it. I’m good with that”

 

I’ll talk to vice president of football operations Jeff Ferguson afterwards.

“Ferg’s good. I’m not sure what Ferg calls it. We can go hockey and go upper arm injury.”

 

Extremity.

“Upper extremity? Is that what it is?”

 

Upper body.

“Upper body? Just upper body? Wow. That’s awesome. That ranges a lot of things. His spleen could be hanging out on the ground, but it’s upper extremity. I’m good with that.”

 

Did you look at Christian Ponder last year when you were with the Eagles?

“We did.”

 

Was it to the extent of a tryout?

“No. We were trying to bring him in, but he ended up going back to Oakland. [Oakland Raiders offensive coordinator] Bill Musgrave, who was the quarterback coach for me in Philadelphia, was his offensive coordinator when he was with the Vikings. So, I don’t know whether it was staying on the west coach or a familiarity with Bill, but we had talked about bringing him in when I was in Philly last year.”

 

You’ve talked about the benefits of practicing with another team. But, practicing with the defending World Champions, a team that’s been there, done that, when you have a young team like this, is there any additional benefit to that?

“I think any time you get to go against great competition, then you look out there and you see [Denver Broncos LB] Von Miller and [Denver Broncos S] T.J. Ward and [Denver Broncos CB] Aqib Talib, that can speak volumes in terms of how you can gauge yourself. It’s a great test because those guys, when you finally see them in person and I had an opportunity to coach T.J. so I know how good T.J. is in college. But, to see the strides he’s made in the National Football League in the six years that he’s been in the league, and then you get to see a guy like Von Miller in person and really his ability to rush the passer, his ability just to disrupt because he’s just such a disruptive player. You’ve got to be able to gain positives out of that. It was tough for us last week just because playing Houston, we were hoping that [Houston Texans DE J.J.] Watt and [Houston Texans LB Jadeveon] Clowney were there, but again [Houston Texans head coach Bill O’Brien] Billy’s erring on the side of caution making sure those guys are ready for the season. But, any time you get a chance to go against great players like those guys are, it’s a positive. And I think it’s the same thing for our corners, getting to go against [Denver Broncos WR Demaryius] Thomas and [Denver Broncos WR Emmanuel] Sanders is a big test for them too. So, it’s good work and that’s why we do these things.”

 

Was that maybe, in some ways, a bit of a wakeup call? You guys got rolling pretty good in that preseason game, but if anyone on offense wondered if we’re there yet, I mean that would have provided an answer yesterday?

“I don’t look at it as a wakeup call because I don’t think anybody, you know, we weren’t passing out any trophies after the first half of the preseason game. So, we didn’t go in at halftime against Houston and say, ‘Alright, we’ve got this thing down.’ We all know we have a lot of work to do. It is a process in terms of preparing to play this season. It’s about stacking good days on top of good days. You just can’t rest and say, ‘Hey, you were good yesterday,’ and then take it easy the next day. You’ve got to continue to get better every day and you’re going to get challenged every day. Just like in this league every week, you can have a huge win one week and then you better get your mind right within 24 hours because the next week you’ve got another opponent that’s coming in ready to take your head off. So, I think that’s the lesson, but I don’t think anybody by any stretch of the imagination our guys were patting themselves on the back after our performance in the first half of the first preseason game.”

 

In terms of stacking good days on top of good days, have you started to see that from any of your young receivers. I’m not talking about the guys who are running with the first string, but any of the first or second year guys on the roster?

“Well, I think one of the things with the receivers is we’ve kind of been up and down with guys in and out. [WR] Bruce [Ellington], who I thought was doing a really nice job, sprains his ankle a little bit against Houston and hasn’t gone full here yet. [WR DeAndre Smelter] Smelt’s been out for about a week now with a hamstring. So, kind of seeing who those guys are, who those ones and twos are has been a little bit difficult just because of the injury thing. And for those young guys, I think that’s a great question. What we do need to see is consistency. We haven’t really seen a ton of that right now. We’ve seen them flash, which is awesome because you know what they can do, but it’s being consistent not only on a daily basis but really, on a play-to-play basis, that you can count of them. He makes a big play here and then all of a sudden you’re gone. You know, it’s really trying to find out who those guys are. No one I can say off the top of my head has just jumped off of it, but I think we’ve got confidence in the group that we have. It’s just can they put it all together on a consistent basis.”

 

You addressed this a little bit earlier, but I’m not sure I heard it. Is Colin not going to play this week?

“Yeah. Colin will not play in the game this week.”

 

Everybody talks so much about the positives of joint practices. Are there any obstacles that are almost, not on the negative side but that you have to overcome when you’re with another team?

“I don’t think there’s obstacles. I just think there’s just the people who have the yeoman-type work of these things are the logistics people. Being able to get everything orchestrated in terms of where you are and how things are going to operate and that’s kind of the behind the scenes things that nobody sees. The people that, the travel people that have to coordinate everything. I think a lot of times as coaches, we don’t really think like, ‘Hey, we want to go with the Broncos,’ and then the next day, ‘Make it an extra day.’ We think that’s an easy thing to do and it’s definitely not an easy thing to do. So, the obstacles are really the logistics aspect of it. But, I think teams are comfortable. San Francisco and Denver have done this before. [Denver Broncos head coach Gary Kubiak] Kub has done it before. We’ve done it with other teams. So, I think from a coaching staff standpoint and trying to get the practice put together, that’s not a difficult thing. The difficult thing, if its anything, is just the logistics aspect of it and our guys do an unbelievable job of that.”

 

Were there any reminders last night about the chippiness and not engaging in any kind of physical stuff out there?

“No. Our guys know how we want to train and how we want things to do and I don’t think you have to reiterate it to them every day.”

 

Would you like to get QB Blaine Gabbert more work this week or do you have to kind of balance that with Colin’s situation?

“We’ll balance that with, again, with what we have and we don’t do any decision in terms of what our reps are for the games until after this last practice so we know what’s available. Not only for Blaine, but who’s with him in that group. So, all of a sudden if you lose two offensive linemen and you’re going to have to play two rookies in a game, how long would we keep Blaine in there in those situations. Those are all what-ifs that you really don’t know about until we’re done this training session today and then we’ll sit down tomorrow and kind of hash out how many reps we want for everybody. Whether it’s [T] Joe Staley or Blaine or [LB] NaVorro [Bowman] or whoever we’re talking about getting work against Denveron Saturday.”

 

You went deep with us on your relationship with Bill O’Brien. Do you have a similar connection with coach Kubiak?      

“I would not say we’re kindred spirits, but that’s just because we don’t know each other long enough. Hopefully at some point in time we will get that. I just know Kub from league meetings and watch what a great job he did with this team last year. To take this team to the Super Bowl kind of just tells you what type of coach he is and I have a ton of respect for him. Not only in his ability to coach, but how he does it. I think he’s a class act. So, when we got a chance, when I got to San Francisco and they said we’re going to have a practice situation in Denver, I was excited because I know what type of guy he is and not only him, when you take someone, one of the classiest guys in this league is [Denver Broncos defensive coordinator] Wade Phillips, who is their defensive coordinator. So, you knew you were going to get good quality work out of it.”

 

Have you had a chance to see former 49ers LB Charles Haley work with some of the defensive linemen guys and is he just here for training camp–?

“Charles can do whatever he wants. I’m serious because I’m not telling him he’s got to leave. I think he’s really been an invaluable tool for us just because of the experience he has. He has a unique way of presenting it where he’s kind of funny, but I think when he gets really serious about pass rush there’s some tremendous amount of knowledge in what he has in his success in this league, his ability, that everybody recognizes, which is why he’s in the Hall of Fame. If he can impart some of that on some of our young guys, we want to have him around as long as Charles wants to be around.”

 

What have you seen from S Jered Bell since he’s joined you guys?

“Jered’s done a really nice job. I think learning what we do defensively, the safety has to be the captain back there, kind of the play-caller, the quarterback of the defense. The one thing that stuck out with him was just how smart he was from day one and picked things up. You could notice him even in the rookie minicamp at getting other guys aligned. You were like, ‘That’s pretty impressive, not only does he know what he does, but he’s getting outside linebackers lined up when they’re not in the proper leverage.’ It’s what stuck out when you talked to the coaches at Colorado, what an intelligent football player he is. That’s what he’s shown since we’ve had him.”

 

Was going up against him in the Pac-12 at all part of you bringing him in here?

“No, because the last time I coached in the Pac-12 was the ’12 season, so I don’t know if he played and if he did he was a true freshman. And when we were playing them I wasn’t scouting for the NFL saying, ‘Hey, that freshman over there is a guy I’d like when I get into the league three years from now and I hope I can sign him.’ I wasn’t that clairvoyant.”

 

Was it still the Pac-10 at that point?

“No, it was still the Pac-12 at that point.”

    1. I think I said Jim Hostler in there somewhere with Kap???

      Is Jim Hostler even qualified to install an NFL offensive game plan?

      Until San Francisco finds a way to open up the offense, it will see many more days like this offensively regardless who is playing quarterback.

      -Jeremy Green, Scouts Inc. 2007.

      Four weeks into Jim Hostler’s career as an NFL Offensive Coordinator.

      Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

  1. Trying out right guard was Anthony Davis’ idea

    Matt Barrows
    ✔ ‎@mattbarrows

    Anthony Davis in playing guard: “We want the best 5 on the field & Trent’s (Brown) not going to play guard. He’s a giant man.”

    11:29 AM – 18 Aug 2016

  2. 49ers are desperate–need Gabbert to stay healthy.
    on the Merrill Hodge show, Greg Cosell guest, Hodge said tank season for Watson
    Kelly has a $24 mil contract, he could tank, go 2-14, Baalke would be fired by Jed, and Walla, Chip has control along with pal, Gamble…TomD

    Daniel Rathman ‏@DanielRathman · 3h3 hours ago

    @timkawakami I mean, they’re arguably better off being embarrassingly terrible and getting the no. 1 pick.

  3. Sounds like Niners had a solid bounce-back performance today….very good to hear

    Also really good to hear that Tank seems to really be coming on as an edge rusher, along with Blair….I think Blair may have the ability to unseat Brooks at some point this season, much like Lynch did his rookie year…just a thought

    1. I’m beginning to think that Ahmad Brooks is Michael Myers. Think about it every couple of years we talk about his impending demise and then, poof! He rises to wreck havoc. Plus, you never see the two in the same room and they wear masks, and everyone is afraid of him.

      1. One more year of “oh-well-I’d-rather-he-was-gone-but-there’s-no-one-to-replace-him-right-now” and Brooks will be on Niners’ 10-year wall.

  4. Kaep is playing games to get that insurance $

    I know this year is already guaranteed,but I Believe he has a total injury settlement that if he can show proof he gets at least half of what he has left on his total contract

  5. TomD, you might be one hell of a guy, but please consider that your constantly negative posts are a real drag. In addition, because you tend to bunch them together, they disrupt the flow. And because they are so negative, it is hard to find value in them. I don’t know what your beef is with the Niners — maybe they screwed you over, and if so I am extremely sorry — but I respectfully ask you to cut back on the negativity. Very few of us have illusions about the ownership, GM, QB situation, and how the team will do this year. Nevertheless, I think this blog is supposed to be an exchange of ideas and pleasantries.

    1. We’ve all barked up that tree before George, its just no use. Nothing we can do but ignore him, which we’ve done pretty well for the most part. The guy just doesn’t get it.

      Its like having our very own Tim Kawakami on this blog 24/7

      I’ll take 10 Sebs over one TomD

      1. I’ll go you 2 Sebs. I can’t wait until early December to learn if we’re widely happy with a 7-5 record at that time, or totally negative with a 2-10.

    2. Plus 1000 George.

      I’ve urged Grant to put a stop to this guy. Not in the spirit of censorship, but because TomD is clearly trolling this forum. He’s not here to add to the discourse, he’s here to make the rest of us agitated, while hiding behind his computer screen, which is a clear sign that he’s not only a troll, he’s also a coward!

      To make matters worse, he’s not even presenting his own ideas and opinions. Most of what he posts is simply cut and paste material. All stuff we already have access to on the internet if we choose to look for it!

      It’s a real shame because like Leo says, I’d take 10 Seb posts over one TomD post anyday and twice on Sunday.

    3. I get people’s frustration with TomD. He spams the board with mostly nonsense or misleadingly edited links/posts. IMO, it’s best to “censor” the guy by ignoring him. If nobody responds to him, and everyone just scrolls past his trolls and clutter posts, he may even get bored and stop posting here.

      Feeding the troll just encourages more of the same nonsense and clutter posts.

  6. 8/18/16: 49ers QB’s RB’s and WR’s bounce back after an afternoon of struggles VS Denver’s defense during yesterday’s joint practice, with efficiency on the ground, and in the air!

    “We were clicking,” Gabbert said afterward. “I think we missed maybe one throw, but for the most part, the guys were running hard, the offensive line did a tremendous job blocking that front seven and just delivered the ball on time. The guys made some plays.”

    On defense, Both OLB’s Ahmad Brooks & recently converted OLB Tank Carradine looked sharp rushing Denver passers. Brooks looked like one of the best Thursday in a joint practice with the host Denver Broncos. He produced a would-be sack of Mark Sanchez and nearly intercepted rookie Trevor Siemian, who will start Saturday night’s exhibition. Tank Carradine looked sharp rushing from left outside linebacker. He had two sacks on the day and was hard to block in one-on-one pass drills, too. Eli Harold is the favorite to start early in the season while Aaron Lynch serves a four-game suspension. But Carradine appears to be the stronger player at this point, and he has been the more effective pass rusher.

    1. More Thursday practice notes:

      Earlier today, teammate DuJuan Harris made a mention of a “mean spin move recovery block” that Anthony Davis made during practice against the Denver Broncos. Harris said that he thought that the Broncos defender had Davis beat on the play. “That was me showing the little dude that I’m a better athlete than him,” responded Davis.

      The bigger news, IMO, is yet another sign that Anthony Davis appears to like what Chip Kelly is asking of his OL, Davis said lining up guard, a position he hasn’t played in 10 years, was his idea and that he told position coach Pat Flaherty he was willing to move there. This is a big change of events and signals Davis is yet another 49ers veteran who appear to be buying into Chip Kelly’s system. Today, Davis shot down any talk of him playing for another team. Responding to a fan on Twitter saying that the New York Giants could use him and asking how he got along with now-Giants offensive line coach Mike Solari.

      “Solari is my Dad but I’ll probably be a Niner for life,” said Davis.

      Arik Armstead (shoulder) did not practice but got a lot of conditioning work with strength and conditioning coach Mark Uyeyama. That seems to signal he will return to practice soon. Armstead also got more pass-rush work with Hall of Famer Charles Haley, who has become a de facto assistant coach.

    2. Sounds like Tank has been looking pretty good the past week as a pass rusher. Good thing with Lynch out the first 4 weeks. Hopefully between he, Brooks and Harold (and potentially Blair) they can generate some pressure from the edge.

      1. As much as I want Tank to have a great season his past performances leave a lot for him to prove. I like the reports that he’s getting from camp. I hope to see him with the 1’s and 1’s Saturday.

        So far he seems to be better than Harold or Lemioner. Blair gets a lot of praise. Seems like O’Neil’s going to use a lot of DB’s and ILB’s blitzes. Seems like he’ll create pressure in a variety of ways until Lynch comes back.

        1. For sure, he has a lot to prove. But I also don’t think we can use his past performance as a 300lbs DT as a great gauge for his ability as a 265lbs edge rusher. He’s very much an unknown at the moment. And its promising to hear the positive reviews the past week. I too would like to see him get some time with the 1s.

          1. Agreed, I think my emotional hesitancy is like with CK improving, can be an unrealistic wish. I look forward to the game tomorrow to see how the roster is starting to shape up for the cut to 75. I have liked Tank’s potential and think he has a shot as an edge rusher. He even got in the backfield as at DT, he just didn’t play the rest of that position well.

    1. And there’s a certain 16 who could help our qbs while we’re at it and a number 80 or 82 to teach the young bucks. We could even get 84 to come in and show McD how to hang on to the football!!

      1. I want Brent Jones and Keena Turner to sit behind Modkins in the booth and tell him what the BW Niners would have done in certain situations. Modkins could get the offensive perspective from Brent and the defensive scheme analysis from Keena.

  7. George, Leo, EastCoaster, 49reasons, Seb, Adusoron:

    As you changed the channel during 49er lopsided losses last year, you’ll do the same in 2016, and I welcome you to change the channel on me as I post how stupid the F/O is.
    Why don’t you ask the 49ers to quit playing negative football. Why don’t you ask Jed to quit ripping off the Girl Scouts of America or stiffing Tim Kawakami?

    Why don’t you ask the same of yourselves as you do me, for example the prodigious posts by 49reasons (above) and Seb–daily?…I know…..You’re hypocrites: YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

    1. fyi,

      I’ll dial the posts back some in reg. season while I concentrate on your negative posts as the 49ers start out 0-10, and, like last year, you turn on one another and the Niner organization like the hypocritical fans you are, waving your false 49er flags around.

      1. I can also conceive of them losing their first 10 games, but the apparent improvement in the defense and apparent ability of the offense to move the ball in the first half against the Texans are both encouraging. Obviously, it’s way too early to draw any conclusions.

        1. True,

          We’ve yet to reach the Chip threshold his ex-Philly defensive players refer to as those 3 and outs come quickly to a defense that just sat down.

          An NFL 2015 study showed his players were on the field 3 games more than the other NFL teams (time-wise) due to Chip’s quick 3 and outs.

          This resulted in a pourous D.

              1. Only when you commit by admitting you’re in league with Trent Baalke’s outdated football philosophy, run run run!

              2. TomD,

                I commit to the fact, and admit, that I’m in league with Trent Baalke’s outdated football philosophy, run run run!

                There, I followed your requirements. So, when the 49ers win their first game, as long as it’s within their first ten games, I’ll expect you to remove yourself from this blog until the beginning of the next NFL year starts in March of 2017.

                Considering that you’re an honorable person and would never go back on your word, I know that you’ll honor the agreement you made.

                Thanks for putting your money where your mouth is and Go Niners!

          1. TomD, that’s a good point. But if you look at last year’s time of possession stats. Philly was last (32), and we were next to last (31). See this link:
            https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot

            I’m not saying this bodes well for the future, because Philly was also last in time of possession in 2013 and 2014.

            However, in terms of yards gained, Philly ranked 2 in 2013, 5 in 2014, and 12 last year. I’ll post that link below.

            I have no idea how the Chip experiment is going to work out. Presumably our time of possession will not go up. However, if our defense can stop the run and mount a good pass rush, and if our secondary can excel at shutting down receivers — two big IFs — we will have a fighting chance to win every game we play, even with Gabbert at QB.

    2. TomD, I hold York in the same disregard as you do. He sucks. Also, we probably share many critical thoughts about the FO and the team’s prospects this year. And I believe a lot of guys do too.

      1. George, I think we both dislike Jed and the FO with a ‘zeal unknown to mankind’, but we also want the Niners to win multiple Lombardis.

        I point out his foibles because I want him to learn and change. I sure would like another coach talk about the Niner organization like Chip did about Kubiak and Phillips. I want the Niners to behave with class, not crass. I want them to become champions by behaving like champions.

        But in the end, I am not a fan who enjoys schadenfreude, predicts 2 win seasons and 0-55 blowouts. I am just a NINER fan, who yearns for a return to glory.

        1. Seb, it’s better for the blog if you and Tom don’t get into fights. I know that he attacks you at times. If he does that again, please ignore him. I hear that you want to “change him,” but it’s unlikely you will. What do you say to that?

          1. George, I hope you have noticed that I have studiously ignored him, lately, and am glad he does not mention me or addresses me.

            The person I want to change is Jed. I hope Jed grows up, becomes more mature, and stops the leaking.

            Jed should stop taking everything so personally. He should act with class by putting the statue of JH back in the museum, and put in some references to Carmen Policy,because he helped the Niners obtain those Lombardis. Those 2 people helped the Niners achieve success, and should be honored, instead of being victims of petty behavior.

            1. Why would we put up a trophy of a coach who never won anything here? You are too sensitive Seb. Its not about participation, its about winning. Just because CK and JH went to a SB and played in it means zero! Winning results in statues and accolades.

              1. JH made the Niners relevant again after years of futility.

                Obviously, you diss JH for leading the Niners to 3 NFCC Games in a row. JH’s success helped build that stadium where the museum is located.

              2. No Seb, the players and coaches made the organization relavant again during the 2011-2013 run. Not one guy. You like to put a lot of blame or praise on one particular person all the time without truly understanding that football is a team game and success and failure is always a result from top to bottom.

                Ironically you have never put much blame on Kaepernick for the regression in his play. Go figure. Its always the oline or Baalke or Tomsula or this or that. Maybe too much sniffy sniffy of the lawn mower gasoline?

              3. Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Ryan, Palmer, Rivers all would have regressed behind the 49ers offensive line last year. I believe PFF had the 49ers rated 30 and 32 in rushing and passing proficiency for their offensive line. To Kaepernick’s credit, he did try to improve the weakness in his game with Warner. He’s not going anywhere this year, so you guys need to get over him. I expect Gabbert will play extensively in this game, to give him every opportunity to make his case. Kaepernick will get his extensive opportunity against the Packers. May the best man win!

              4. Razor come on man, you cannot put CK’s development and performance at the hands of the oline. Its like when Alex Smith was here and everyone said he didn’t throw many 300 yard games because he didn’t have the WR’s. That was a terrible excuse.
                At the end of the day the QB has to be precise, accurate, a good leader and make sound decisions. CK didn’t do any of those for over 15 games. How was that the olines fault?
                He even went outside the organization to get better and in fact got worse.
                The reason Montana, Young, Brady, Favre, Marino were great QB’s because they possessed those skills but more importantly, they made others aroud them better. Kaepernick never made anyone around him better, including putting his oline in precarious situations. Scarmbling early and never going through his reads. He was impossible to block for because he never stayed within the offensive structure!

              5. This team will live or die by the offensive line, and Kaepernick is who he is. He’ll never change….

  8. George,

    Thought this article about the 49er F/O office would interest you:
    August 17, 2016 at 9:44 AM • 14 comments

    By Al Sacco

    Why have the 49ers ignored the quarterback and wide receiver positions?

    “Anyone who follows the San Francisco 49ers on a regular basis knows that their general manager, Trent Baalke, is stubbornly old school when it comes to building his football team. Baalke, who’s an unapologetic Bill Parcells disciple…”

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/1587-why-have-49ers-ignored-quarterback-wide-receiver-positions/

    1. TomD, thanks for the article. I read and liked it. There’s no argument that Baalke has been poor at drafting WRs. Re QBs, almost everyone has trouble finding good ones without a top 5 pick. Please note that I’m not defending TB’s draft record.

  9. Good to hear A Davis willing to move to the G position. That’s how you show your teammates who you quit on you want to make amends! I hope that right side becomes on of the best in the league. It very well has the potential.

  10. Everyone turning on Tommy D, sniping at each other, what’s going on? Here’s what I would like to see. If Salty from KNBR would post here, that would be pretty entertaining. Salty, if you’re out there please join the fun.

  11. Ellington, however, didn’t practice much this week — another ankle sprain — and he is iffy for the Broncos game.

    Gabbert noted that Ellington’s absence created more opportunities during the two-day scrimmage with the Broncos for fellow slot receivers Treggs and DeAndrew White.

    “The guy that’s really stood out the last couple of days with Bruce being out is DeAndrew White,” he said. “He’s had to take a lot of reps. Him and Bryce …

    Go Bryce…Go Cal!!….TomD

  12. http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/why-havent-49ers-drafted-qb-top-200-2012

    Baalke has traded for players that he covets and/or believes that they have the value to be taken at the position he moves up to. With that said are we still to believe that there hasn’t been a single QB that Baalke has deemed worthy of their selection beyond the two he’s taken? Has he really been outmaneuvered each time he had his eyes on a QB and has had to settle on what was left at the end of the draft?

    Considering the importance of the position it’s a pretty flimsy explanation on why one hasn’t been taken earlier.

    1. He’s suggesting that every QB that’s been taken hasn’t been worthy of their spot or they were all somehow taken right before the 49ers pick.

      1. Baalke and team have shown some ability to draft linemen. But I’m trying to think of success they’ve had drafting the skill positions. Still thinking………

      2. I agree with you CfC. The Pats have Brady and they’ve recently used a 2nd on Garoppolo, and a 3rd on Brissett. Considering who he’s had, why does Baalke feel so comfortable not adding QB talent?

  13. Coffee,

    Thx for the interesting post. I posted a similar one above your’s.

    Really, blame lies squarely with the York’s. In order to understand billionaires a psychological profile is imperative.

    Someone posted that John York attempted to instruct Bill Walsh on the game of football “and you can imagine how that went over,” a few weeks ago.

    And now, against all odds, these billionaires built a stadium in California, so there is not much your going to tell them–you’re the one who better listen or you’re out!

    In an attempt to glorify there own vanity, the York’s actually hired a Bill Walsh arch enemy in Trent Baalke, who unabashedly admitted being a Bill Parcell’s disciple (posted above).

    Parcell’s (and his DC–Bill Bellichek) and Walsh went at it for a decade with Walsh coming out on top vs. them, sporting a 12-3 record.

    If the York’s truly cared about Niner fans more than their own ego, why would they subject their fans to this?…Why not simply hire what allowed their stadium to be built with in the first place–on the backs Bill Walsh’s winning genius.

    No, instead the York’s ran in an oppposited direction to prove they (like most billionairs) are smarter than Walsh and can do it their own way, to their and their fans peril.

    Under York ownership we now have gone 15 yrs. w/o a SuperBowl win and only a handful of playoffs.

    By now, Uncle Eddy had 5 SuperBowl Trophies and approx. 35 playoff appearances!

    1. Cassie

      Nice call…I’m going to shave that a little….only because we’ll sub earlier and more often
      Niners 20- Broncos13

  14. Also,

    I thought I’d add that the Green Bay Packers have been running the WCO longer than the 49ers, who hired the originator, picked off a Bill Walsh family tree coach–McCarthey and what should have been our QB–Aaron Rogers.

    I still remember spent the money to have a nice day at a pizza parlor, watching Rogers before the draft, complete something like 25 passes in a row vs. USC (that year most of their defese was drafted so Rogers was basically facing a major league D!)

    I thought for sure the Niners would draft him after that performance (incidentally, I think he had 40 yds rushing too)….???

      1. New here but not new to 49ers (started watching in ’73 when Spurrier was QB! Still have team photo from that year)

        Want to expand on TomD’s “York vs. Walsh” scenario:

        –York alienates Walsh via alienating Mariucci- Mooch leaves.

        –Walsh installs Terry Donahue when Walsh decides to finally leave the bldg.

        –Donahue brings Erickson in (with the hope of longer pass plays to Owens) and the long nightmare begins…

        –York SR. boots Donahue/Erickson out- York SR. is then smitten by Nolan the younger.

        –Nolan starts with Mc Carthy as “WCO” O.C. “tribute to Walsh” (see Aaron Brooks @ N.O.)…but passes on Rodgers (WTF? Nolan’s choice?)…then:

        — Nolan whispers in Dr. York’s ear: “I can make 49ers great and ignore Walsh’s legacy” …and so:

        — 49ers try multiple offenses, not named “WCO”: Norv Turner, Mike Martz, etc.
        (not lost on me: the irony of using former O.C.’s who had 9ers flummoxed in 90’s! Part of Nolan’s/Singletary”s anti Walsh agenda?)

        –then the Jed era starts…

        Corrections and feedback welcome…

  15. I don’t think Kiper’s big board is updated since the draft. So, since I don’t watch a lot of college football — I’ll throw a softball … who are the top few QB prospects and who do you want?

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