The 49ers were on trial today in New York, as the NFL held a hearing into the Bears' allegations that the 49ers tampered in dealing with linebacker Lance Briggs.
A league spokesman, Michael Signora, confirmed that a hearing on the matter took place today in New York.
The Bears complained to the league that the 49ers tampered with Bears linebacker Lance Briggs during the season. The 49ers and Bears reportedly discussed a trade involving Briggs around the October trade deadline.
The trade did not take place, and the Bears filed a grievance with the league, contending that the 49ers had illegal contract negotiations with Briggs' agent, Drew Rosenhaus.
However, the 49ers showed little interest in signing Briggs when he became a free agent. The Bears resigned Briggs to a reported six-year, $36 million contract.
The league did not disclose who represented the teams during the hearing. The 49ers acknowledged there was a hearing today, but disclosed no further information.
There's no official word on who represented the 49ers, but in such a matter GM Scot McCloughan, chief negotiator Paraag Marathe and executive vice president of footbal operations Lal Heneghan would be expected to testify.
Typically, a decision on such a matter will be handed down within a week. If NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell finds the 49ers guilty, he couuld impose a fined or strip the club of a draft pick.
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UPDATE: Receiver Bryant Johnson has officially signed his one-year, $2 million contract. He reported today for the first day of the 49ers' offseason conditioning program.
Coach Mike Nolan: "Bryant is a player that we have been familiar from or division contests against Arizona. He has been very productive when given the opportunity and we are excited to have him as a member of the 49ers."* * *
GM Scot McCloughan: "Bryant is a young, talented player. He brings big-play capabilities to the offense and we feel he will bring in an added dimension to the talent we already have on board."
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I have one thing in common with Bee-rows: We both have bad memories of Chaminade.
Bee-rows' alma mater, Virginia, fell to the Silverswords in one of the great upsets of all time (1982), while Chaminade knocked my school, Humboldt State, out of the NCAA Division II touney in the first round on Friday.
Hey, but my adopted team, Saint Mary's, made it to the Big Dance and will face the University of Miami (Fla.) on Friday.
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UPDATE II: The 49ers have signed free agent guard Qasim Mitchell, 28, to a contract. Mitchell (6-6, 355) played collegiately at North Carolina A&T. He played 21 games over three seasons with the Bears. He started 16 times. He has not played in an NFL regular-season game since 2005.
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Posted By: Kevin (20/03/2008 7:57:30 AM)
Comment: Cedrick Wilson dumped by the Steelers.
TJ Houzhadfdasjfkdamzeh is also unhappy in Cincy, and I believe this is his last year on his current contract. Someone to target in the '09 offseason?
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (20/03/2008 12:41:55 AM)
Comment: Any indications regarding jersey number for Isaac yet?
Posted By: archie (20/03/2008 12:13:29 AM)
Comment: for those of you who missed nolan on total access on wednesday, here are some video links from the show...
nolan on the state of the franchise:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8074f817
comparison of willis and lewis:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8074f558
nolan philosophies:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807500be
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 10:25:10 PM)
Comment: I'm guessing the Eagles are the hungriest for a WR and can offer Lito Sheppard as trade bait. I'd venture to guess we're done in the WR category until Draft weekend?
Posted By: Razoreater (19/03/2008 9:11:01 PM)
Comment: if we could get "ocho cinco" our chances of a playoff appearance would increase to 85%-there's (lol)no way otah drops to us, branden alberts may(guard who can play RT)& that would be a Godsend, but if we can somehow get laws also I feel these 2 rookies would be instrumental in a win against the enemy in the playoffs
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 8:49:48 PM)
Comment: CORRECTION- Atlanta holds 37/48 currently, pending Raiders pick for Deangelo they would obtain 34 also. We're very close in trade value so it's probably gonna involve a player (Send Jonas) and lower picks if they even entertain a trade. Doesn't hurt to keep the options open. All comes down to who's shopping vs. who we have on the board at 29.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 8:27:34 PM)
Comment: CalDreaimin' I somewhat agree with your reasoning, OT has depth which is why I've suggested the outside possibility of CB at 29. Of late I'm more anxious to entertain trading back for an extra 2. Atlanta is stocked, just not sure whether the new GM (from NE?) is a dealer or not. I've got a farfetched notion that Jonas might be a fit there, but even if not, they have ammo to deal up now.Once completed, Raiders send 34 to them, and they already hold 37/38. We're at 39. Trying to see what works if anything, keeps me busy while the APB is out on Matt?
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 8:17:29 PM)
Comment: tgflynn, just goes to show there is power in numbers huh?,(LOL). I liked the move just for the fact that he's getting a 1 season job interview, can't hurt to see what he's got to prove under Martz.
Posted By: Maurice in Stockton (19/03/2008 8:14:52 PM)
Comment: Where the hell is Matt!!??
No new blog since monday..are you serious??We need new 9er news!!!!!!!
Posted By: tgflynn (19/03/2008 8:02:31 PM)
Comment: Recently released Darrell Jackson was added to ESPN Free Agent Tracker and rated at a 65 four points less than Bryant Johnson.
Posted By: matt podesta (19/03/2008 7:34:02 PM)
Comment: I"ll take Groves in a second. He's going to be a solid OLB in the NFL. We could use the pass rush threat on the outside. I dont think Banta-Cain is the solution.
Posted By: Parker (19/03/2008 7:08:52 PM)
Comment: Jeff Otah at #29 would be a gift. DeSean Jackson would be an even bigger one, but I'm not getting my hopes up on the Cal speedster. Cherilus or Groves are more realistic at our spot.
Posted By: Pete in New Hampshire (19/03/2008 5:31:54 PM)
Comment: What about these two guys -- Roosevelt Colvin and Grady Jackson. I know we seem to have been burned by last year's former Patriots linebacker, but Colvin is far better than TBC and is only 30. He can rush the passer very effectively. Jackson is 35, but he can clog the middle. He seems like just the guy to save till late in the 3rd quarter when he's fresh and the opposition isn't -- he's a beast. Or wait til Decemeber and then throw him in for the same reasons. Signing those two would tell me we want to win now. We should still look for a pass rusher in the draft, but both players would give us talented, experienced depth. Any rumors about either man, Matt?
Posted By: buzz (19/03/2008 5:27:48 PM)
Comment: Okeydoke-S Baker;B.Albert:G.Cherilus;Roy Schuening:Chilo Rachal;J.Zuttah -bring on the big boys- be happy to have more than one of um' on OL- exciting- then E."smurf'Royal and/or my boy Jordy Nelson and coach Martz will kick this baby up a notch!
Posted By: Sonoma Steve (19/03/2008 5:21:25 PM)
Comment: Jesus you two, listen to yourseves, arguing about what a guy is wearing during warm-ups. Matt's taking a break, maybe you guys should too. Go do something fun.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (19/03/2008 4:54:10 PM)
Comment: PDX Mike: Thank God!
Posted By: PDX Mike (19/03/2008 4:46:15 PM)
Comment: Jon in SoCal--his gear looks like it has the Nike ACG logo. I have that on some of my golf gear. I seriously doubt if his a) wearing loser Raider gear and b) that SF would put a picture of a new player on the website if he was wearing loser Raider gear.
Posted By: StonerLab (19/03/2008 4:30:51 PM)
Comment: Just saw Nolan on the NFL Network with Rich Eisen. Very interesting on what Nolan said about Martz & Alex & the upcoming draft. They also had Charlie Casserly giving his opinion on who the 49ers will pick in the 1st round. Although Charlie said that OT Jeff Otah probably might not be there at #29 if he slips the 49ers will snatch him up, if not it will be Cherilus. After watching NFL Access I'm really starting to get excited about the draft & the upcoming season. Let's go!
Posted By: Robert (19/03/2008 4:30:30 PM)
Comment: Any news on the hearing? Seems like it's been several days since that had their hearing. I would've thought there'd be an update.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (19/03/2008 3:15:05 PM)
Comment: I was reading an article on DThomas on 49ers.com check it out.http://49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=4092. Look real close at the outfit he's wearing...looks like Raiders gear. He's now on my list. First DJax with the hair and now DThomas with other team's warm ups
Posted By: 49erJeff (19/03/2008 3:07:29 PM)
Comment: I need all 49er fans help!! We need to get these wanted posters out as soon as we can. Our main man Matt Maiocco has been missing for 2 days now. 2 day's!! I'm geting very concerned. If anyone has seen Matt Maiocco please tell him to blog Niners news ASAP. I don't care if it's having him check on the Niners Cheerlearders again....just something!!
Very Concerned Niners Fan.
P.S. Thanks for all your hard work Matt, you deserve a vacation. I hear Oakland is nice this time of year. The flowers are out, the dank smell is in the air. And Al Davis as usual is spending $$ again.
Down with the Black Hole.
Posted By: Giovanni Carmazzi (19/03/2008 2:23:31 PM)
Comment: I hope we're pursuing Chad Johnson after his rant today.
Posted By: Giovanni Carmazzi (19/03/2008 2:23:30 PM)
Comment: I hope we're pursuing Chad Johnson after his rant today.
Posted By: StonerLab (19/03/2008 1:49:20 PM)
Comment: Matt,
What's your take on Jennings not being involved in the first day of OTA's ?
Posted By: ninertellingthetruth (19/03/2008 12:14:54 PM)
Comment: CaliforniaDreamin please stop dreaming because Desean Jackson is like another brandom williams.Nolan please draft Quentin Groves.
Posted By: CaliforniaDreamin' (19/03/2008 11:54:40 AM)
Comment: I don't know why everyone is so convinced that we would pick a OT with the first selection. Although I do agree we need two more quality offensive lineman, I think we all should rest assured that our two greatest needs : OL , WR , are by far the drafts deepest positions. Mike Nolan did not coach the senior bowl for a 3rd consecutive year just for kicks. Im sure they will take the BPA and it will be very interesting to see who that is. However, for some odd reason I have a gut feeling that the BPA availible will be a game changing WR by the name of DeSean Jackson. Ya I said it, he's gonna slip to us and were gonna grab him and Jerry Rice is gonna come be assistant WR coach and Vernon will flourish because he's not getting double teamed every play and Alex is gonna go to the Pro Bowl.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (19/03/2008 8:54:48 AM)
Comment: This is what I hate/love about this time of year, where I spend sleepless nights wondering about who we are going to draft, even though I can't control anything!! I would not be disappointed about taking OL with our first of even our first 2 picks, it's the safe and sane way to do business in the NFL. That being said, if you look at the NFL.com mock (which has Cherilus dropping to 29), at that point, we would have the option of getting Cherilus (4-5th rated tackle), Keith Rivers from USC (top-LB) or even Groves (DE/OLB switcheroo who compares to D.Ware). We can't take them all, but I would almost lean towards Groves and take a OL with #2
Posted By: Tucker (19/03/2008 8:36:07 AM)
Comment: Yep, there is a world of difference between LT and RT, so maybe Cherilus might be ok at RT. An OT would be a good idea in the 1st. Alex IN the pocket isn't as effective as Alex OUTSIDE the pocket, where he does his best work. So yeah, another 1st rounder on an OT to lock down the other edge to Staley, and allow Alex some roll-out potential, would be a great call. Lets hope there's a good one left for us.
Posted By: StonerLab (19/03/2008 7:52:33 AM)
Comment: tgflynn,
Just wanted to add that the reason Cherilus gave up the 6.5 sacks and the penalty's is because as Mel Kyper Jr. stated on ESPN this morning he is not a LT. His natural position is RT & that's a great fit for the 49ers since we can't depend on Jennings.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 7:22:03 AM)
Comment: Stonerlab, that's music to my ears. Can't wait to see him and his fat (contract) playing elsewhere, and a pick in any Rd would be sweet. I can see a Rookie playing better at a fraction of that cost right now.
Posted By: StonerLab (19/03/2008 7:21:22 AM)
Comment: To add to my last post if Jennings is going to be traded which I hope happens there is no question for sure that the 49ers draft the best possible OT available at #29. Guys, the only comparison that Kwame has on Cherilus are there physical makeup. Scouts have stated that Cherilus has a real "mean streak" with an attitude when he plays where let's face it Kwame played very passive. Regardless if the 49ers pick him or not it's got to be an OT at #29.
Posted By: StonerLab (19/03/2008 7:13:33 AM)
Comment: Matt,
Just heard from your boy (Matt) at SacBee that Jennings did not participate on the 1st day of OTA's yesterday. He's suppose to be healthy but yet did not partake in any of the activities. Is there a message there? Possibly Nolan has had enough of his "drama" and is keeping him out in order to trade him for a late round pick in the draft?
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 7:02:38 AM)
Comment: tgflynn I know what you mean, he's talented, good measurables, just think we could find similar guys later. I love looking for the smaller school standouts. Kendall Langford,Heath Benedict,Brandon Keith,Jerome Simpson,Jason Jones,Jeremy Thompson type guys, ala Staley.I think the trick is more about value picks that don't break the bank. More picks for me, deal for an extra. But naturally, Scot loads the board, he knows the plan.
Posted By: tgflynn (19/03/2008 6:49:01 AM)
Comment: My comment on Cherilus was more a caution than a condemnation. I think he has talent, much of his problem was shifting from right to left tackle as a senior, but I'm not sure he warrants a first round pick. His problem as well as Grove's and others is terrific physical ability, which has not been matched with the type of dominance you would expect at the college level. Sure some of these underachievers pan out in the pros, but most don't.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 6:44:09 AM)
Comment: Granted Zuttah is shorter, but could be more flexible. Still think the guy Scot wouldn't pass on is Sam Baker from USC and he's likely to rank about the same as Cherilus, low 1 high 2.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (19/03/2008 6:36:39 AM)
Comment: With the depth available on OL and the Falcons poised to add another 2nd Rd pick, I like to suggestion others have made regarding Atl leap frogging Miami for the start of Rd 2. I'm not adverse to sliding into the 2nd for an additional Day 1 selection. Unless Scot covets a guy at 29, there's still many holes to fill and 1 more pick can't hurt. As for Cherilus, I think Zuttah from Rutgers is more versatile, did a fantastic job for Ray Rice, and could be had Rd 2-3?. Evaluation and how long a guy lasts on the board is tougher then it looks. Most people nail the top 5, but somewhere in the top 10 something always surprises us.
Posted By: Razoreater (19/03/2008 5:42:37 AM)
Comment: with pick #29 u prey branden alberts is available, if not go with groves
Posted By: Tucker (19/03/2008 2:17:57 AM)
Comment: Hey Matt, did we sign Qasim Mitchell to see how he might fare on the D Line? Before anyone says that he's too tall, I'd take Terdell Sands in a heartbeat...and he's even taller. Also, we swapped Damane over, so maybe somebody sees potential in him on defense. Worth a look, no? Guys that big don't grow on trees...
Posted By: Tucker (19/03/2008 2:12:23 AM)
Comment: So, good ol' oneniner has been at "it" again. And I think we all know what "it" is. The funny thing now is, any comment addressed to "oneidiot", "onetwat", or "onemoron", is instantly recognized as a reference to the "great one". Something equally as funny was when the aforementioned "oneidiot" posted this: "bottomline not everything in espn or the paper should be read out loud"...classic! The "bottomline" is actually, "not everything you think should come out of your mouth, or be typed on here"...a motto that even some 5 year olds are able to understand! ;-)
Posted By: Tucker (19/03/2008 1:56:00 AM)
Comment: If Cherilus conceded 6.5 sacks and 7 penalties, in 1 season (of what, 11 games?), going against college players...I shudder to think what will happen in the pros. The only caveat might be if he has shocking technique, which can be corrected. And that is HUGELY doubtful. I think we'd better steer clear of Kwame II.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (18/03/2008 11:24:05 PM)
Comment: Cherilus = Kwame in some people's opinion. Here's a question, if Cherilus lasts to the 9ers pick (a lot of mocks have him going 5-10 picks earlier) and Groves is still available, which one do you go with? Groves is interesting, but we really need OL. It's a deep position in the draft, OL, but at some point you may end up with a mediocre player if you wait too long
Posted By: ONEIDIOT (18/03/2008 9:36:12 PM)
Comment: Aren't you the one who always quotes various external sources? I think so, go back to your posts and stop ripping other people. If you still feel the need how about starting with your own moronic posts. Its funny how you feel the need to look tough on the internet. Until you make your own blog you have no right to tell someone what to post and what not to so if you don't like it stop trying to act hard and keep it to yourself quit flexing your internet muscles because you don't scare a DAMN person.
Posted By: StonerLab (18/03/2008 9:03:16 PM)
Comment: tgflynn,
Regardless of his 6.5 sacks I still like the 49ers getting Cherilus. He has alot of upside just based on his physical makeup, but whoever get's him (49ers hopefully) he will be a very productive & serviceable OT for 6-8 years IMO.
Posted By: buzz (18/03/2008 8:55:15 PM)
Comment: oops That's good fit!
Posted By: buzz (18/03/2008 8:54:14 PM)
Comment: Fair enough about Cherilus but he's big/ quick off snap/ mean-has long arms-and seems coachable (see combine!) food fit on right side and wants to play!Not the only one here... but still not a bad pick I'd say(I'm not seeing anybody walkin' on water- so don't worry about the oils!)
Posted By: tgflynn (18/03/2008 8:20:34 PM)
Comment: Before you anoint Cherilus he was credited with allowing 6.5 sacks and 7 penalties in his senior year alone.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (18/03/2008 7:12:23 PM)
Comment: Myron,Buzz, thanks for the support. oneniner, I repeat my position regarding the exchange of ideas, opinions etc and ask that you keep it real regarding respect for the rest of the folks that come here. Good debate does not include 'calling people' on what you or I consider relevant, it's about leaving the knucklehead remarks at the door before you enter. If someone chooses to identify themselves within this forum as such, so be it, you are provided the courtesy of posting as oneniner, I respond in kind. It's a simple courtesy to read, respond, debate, share and learn from each other regarding observations and opinions about our team. Whether you deem it irrelevant or not doesn't warrant name calling, that's the point. You like Hardy, I don't, but it's your right to post your comment and no one knows what Scot will do until he does it, so until then we're all right. Allow the latitude to others who have their visions and predictions for kids who may or may not get Drafted by us next month. You said it yourself, you don't have a logon for ESPN, so perhaps tgflynn brought something to the blog that you or others didn't know about. Now you know. ESPN isn't looking for a comment on the 'tool', they provided it as a method to rate FAs. You rate Hardy as a Day 1 pick, many others may not, we'll see where it goes in about 6 weeks.
Posted By: Giovanni Carmazzi (18/03/2008 6:20:18 PM)
Comment: I prefer Madden ratings...
Posted By: buzz (18/03/2008 5:19:12 PM)
Comment: Oh by the way Stonerlab-G Cherlius is the bomb... been touting him as as a first round( he and or B.Albert) I feel ya!
Posted By: buzz (18/03/2008 5:12:09 PM)
Comment: To Oneniner-the point of Marc's post was simply to affirm t.flynn's right to exchange ideas, opinions and information about blog topics and area's of interest about our team...as memory serves he has affirmed your right to do so to others who don't have a favorable response to your additions...as do I-however, angry putdowns and attacks probably wont serve or assist your ability to actually be heard in this community but will only warrant reaction-and what is the point of that!? Marc NJ is certaintly one of the most thoughtful and reasonable contributors here - no need to be so harsh!
Posted By: anonymous (18/03/2008 3:46:00 PM)
Comment: Snap !!!
Posted By: StonerLab (18/03/2008 3:46:00 PM)
Comment: Just heard on the "Path to the Draft" that OT Gosder Cherilus had a very impressive Pro Day. Maylock says he'll be a late 1st round to early 2nd round pick. That bodes well for the 49ers to snatch him up at #29. I really like this kid, at 6'7" 315lbs he's pretty nimble & quick enough to get off his stands in pass protection but yet big enough to mash on running plays. Plus he's got very long arms to deal with those speedy "edge" rushers like Dwight Freeney. I'm hoping we get him because it would shore up our O-line big time!
Posted By: anonymous (18/03/2008 3:46:00 PM)
Comment: Snap !!!
Posted By: Myron (18/03/2008 3:02:55 PM)
Comment: Oneniner--it is a bit strange that you deem yourself to be the judge of relevancy with all of the hollow jargon you spew on a daily basis. I hate to break it to you but this is a post for 49ers fans is primarily for entertainment via discussion about the 49ers. Just because Matt's blog plays such a significant role in your social life your perception has been distorted to believe that you are a paid NFL analyst and that you have become the keeper of the comment page and must admonish others for what you deem to not be relevant. What I love about your posts is that you your posts are as stone faced serious as they are stupid. It is funny to see someone invest so much pride and honor in a trivial exercise that they suck it in the first place. Hit me back again oneniner and I will pull up some of your "relevant" posts the past month to give the readers an idea of what you consider acute NFL analysis as opposed to "irrelevant observation" you big tough guy you.
Posted By: oneniner (18/03/2008 2:33:12 PM)
Comment: Marc - NJ49er- What was the point of the post. It wasn't an opinion, it was an irrelevant observation on free agent ratings. If i had an espn log on I would have commented on it on ESPn, but since the knuckle head decided to bring the irrelevant observation to Instant 49ers, he needed to be called on it.....bottomline not everything in espn or the paper should be read out loud
Posted By: Windex666 (18/03/2008 1:11:57 PM)
Comment: I don't think the Bears will be able to prove anything. The 49ers staff regularly talks with Rosenhaus because he represents a few players on the 49ers. If the 49ers signed Briggs, then that might be a different story.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (18/03/2008 1:04:39 PM)
Comment: Joe49: I agree with the whole switching position thing. There is a difference between drafting the best PLAYER and the best athlete. We need players, not combine warriors. I don't thin k we'll draft 3 WR's those, don't get get too tired with your fingers crossed
Posted By: Joe49 (18/03/2008 12:41:13 PM)
Comment: Hate da 'bears.
Hey Matt,
Can you please ask McNolan to stop drafting guys and trying to convert them?? A struggling franchise needs guys to come in and play, not learn a new position or switch from off to def or vice versa. Sheesh, I mean, sure the Steelers did it, (ala Hines Ward) but they were already in the playoff hunt and got lucky switching a college qb to what he has become, a stud wr. Just draft players and let them play. When you are in the playoff hunt and winning ALOT, then you can waist draft picks on guys to convert. In the meantime, just DRAFT WR'S!!!This regime SUCKS at picking wr's!!!!! Either in the draft or FA. I hope Martz will help them get productive wr's. Not that it matters, cuz' Martz will leave next year and we'll get a new O.C. with a new system and the 49ers will have to draft new people to fit a new system again!! PATHETIC!!!! The legacy of the McNolan/Dr. Dork era is one of offensive ineptitude. They need to get a system in place and keep it there by bringing in people who run the same system.
Keeping my fingers crossed that the 49ers draft 3 wr's this year.
Posted By: Slim (18/03/2008 11:54:26 AM)
Comment: Matty, let's get an exclusive interview with Manny, and see how the knee is feeling. The video on sf49ers shows him running without a limp, which is a great sign. If any man can get an interview, it is you. If any woman can get an interview, well, it would be Chrissy Mauck...
Posted By: shootme (18/03/2008 10:30:30 AM)
Comment: ScottyD, DFlo --- "It's a flawed rule in the NFL and I bet you nothing comes of it. How on EARTH can a team evaluate a trade with another player without first knowing what kind of contract that player expects?" --- Other teams can talk to the player prior to a trade, but they must first be given permission from said player's current team (in this case, the Bears). Right now, they're claiming the niners contacted Briggs' agent before they were given permission.
Posted By: NinerKing (18/03/2008 10:00:11 AM)
Comment: ninerindallas....now that is optimism right there! I agree with most of what you've said. I dont know that we'll trade again to get into the 1st round this year, but then again it is make or break for Nolan. We shall see.
Posted By: ninerindallas (18/03/2008 8:29:45 AM)
Comment: a few things i would like to say.#1 TRADING the #7 pick this year was a good deal because we got a francise tackle in joe staley a tackle that we could not have gotten if we did not make that trade last year.#2 4 and 5 years ago this team was literally signing people off the street, since that point our talent level has increased tenfold.#3 shaun hill is NOT the answer ALEX SMITH is. with no stabilty at offensive cordinator,offensive line and wide recieving core without a set of hands in bunch. as far as nolon and the gm scotty. both have done a great job given what they had to start with. i have complete trust in our draft stratigy people forget that gore was a pick that people scoffed at. the last 2 years we have had 2 picks in 1st round and even after trading this years 1st rounder away we still had the state of mind to secure another 1st rounder this year and i would not be surpised to see us make another trade into the 1st or 2nd and pick another contributor. this time next year i hope all you haters remember you mindset as we roll into the playoffs
Posted By: RHINO (18/03/2008 8:24:58 AM)
Comment: SPIKES TO VISIT BENGALS . . .
http://www.bengalszone.com/article.php?sid=610
Matt, your job is on the line. I beat you to it.
Posted By: StonerLab (18/03/2008 7:06:54 AM)
Comment: I agree with you Mike in Sac on both fronts. This "tampering" issue is Bush League! If the League truly had the goods on the 49ers why did it take them so long to act? And if supposedly this is the typical MO that every team does how is the League going to prove it? IMO this is just a "dog & pony show" for the League to look like they're doing their do-dilignece. As for picking up the OG who hasn't played in a few years, as long as the 49ers got him for pennies on the dollar I don't mind. It would make me feel better if the 49ers had a competent O-line coach who could get the best out these types of players. Oh...how I long for the days of Bob McKitrick. Now that guy could flat out coach!
Posted By: Medford (18/03/2008 3:20:48 AM)
Comment: Nolan is going to be on NFL Total access on Wed. Maybe they will finally do r state of the franchise that day.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (18/03/2008 12:43:53 AM)
Comment: tgflynn, most of us got it. Like Mock Drafts, they are basically entertainment with some fact based measurables. When taking offseason football, it keeps us thinking. Some may not have grasped the concept that it wasn't designed to be a crystal ball.
Posted By: tgflynn (17/03/2008 11:49:31 PM)
Comment: I'm not pushing ESPN's products, I think in a numer of ways their a joke. The ratings are from Scouts Inc. whose personnel have backgrounds working in the NFL as scout, if their highlighted resumes are correct. I feel the ratings are probably ballpark and helped me evaluate the 9ers efforts in free agency, so I passed them on. As far as Oneniner is concerned, I don't argue with 14 yr olds whether that is a chronological fact or just a maturity level.
Posted By: marc (17/03/2008 10:46:09 PM)
Comment: Matt, why hasn"t Spikes signed? Maybe he didn"t pass a physical?
Posted By: AJ in SJ (17/03/2008 10:41:40 PM)
Comment: What really ticks me off about the "tampering" charges is that I understand making an example out of a team, but WHY US? We are already a laughing stock, and because of our sorry state of our franchise, they should find some team which can more "aptly handle" the punishment that they want to hand down. How SAD is it going to be if they fine us a draft pick... us, the team that needs all the talent it can get, instead of another team like the Hatriots who don't need ANY draft picks for the next 5 years. Those cheating bastards. It's already a joke that we don't have the #7 pick in this draft, and Hoodell wants to rob us of ANOTHER pick maybe? I call SINISTER. BLECH! >:(
Posted By: Mike in Sac (17/03/2008 10:06:13 PM)
Comment: Lastly, we know injuries happen on the OL, so why wouldn't Nolan be doing everything to make sure the QB's are not running for their life next year? That way he can keep his job and we don't have to watch another putrid offense. Maybe this is a huge clue to draft strategy? Lots of linemen?
Posted By: Mike in Sac (17/03/2008 10:02:46 PM)
Comment: I think this tampering stuff is B/S. Lets get to a more important topic. Why in the heck would the team sign a OL guy who appears to have been out of the league for two years? I have not done any huge research but just in keeping loose track of the comings and goings it seems that there are some really experienced OG's who were cut due to salaries being too high compared to performance. This by no means suggests these guys can't play, but just means their respective teams probably had a younger option available and did not want to keep a really high priced dude around. Assuming these respective folks could be had for a reasonable price...why in the heck would we not get a quality $2MM insurance policy? Who we wouldn't have to pay unless dude made the team? I say this becasue right now we have one guard backup and a tackle backup who was playing D-line the last time I checked. Very wierd.
Posted By: Marc - NJ49er (17/03/2008 9:29:50 PM)
Comment: oneniner, tgflynn prefaced his post with the sentence that explained an ESPN 'tool'. Why hack him/her off at the knees about hamstring injuries? I'd guess the 'tool' grades a player on his body of work against some measurable baseline of common stats. Let the exchange of ideas, opinions and information flow my friend, tgflynn shared something from ESPN, that's that, don't shoot the messenger.
Posted By: Razoreater (17/03/2008 9:04:08 PM)
Comment: they're just mad they had to pay the guy
Posted By: 16280 (17/03/2008 5:58:10 PM)
Comment: I don't give much credit to those ratings...no way Faneca and Smiley are close to the same caliber. Remember last season when Smiley would shout OLE! as his man shot past him to kill our QB? Just a bunch of numbers. Same goes with D Smith.
Posted By: C.A. Grimes (17/03/2008 4:13:27 PM)
Comment: First of all, Matt never stated that McCloughan was the GM at the time the incident occurred.
Secondly both of you are correct, but you've missed the important fine point here. After the Bears leveled their tampering charge NOBODY got near Briggs. If I'm the 9er Rep I call SHENANIGANS on them, cause they used it as a leverage tool to make it so Briggs would not get touched so they could re-sign him. That's why we're here now only they don't want to drop the charge cause then it sours Briggs and his agent who figure it out. They'd rather have the league toss it out instead.
Great info as always Matt.
Posted By: DFlo (17/03/2008 3:43:28 PM)
Comment: Man!? whatta a Crock O. Schitt. Scotty D (a few comments down) makes a solid point. To reiterate, here's what he said, "It's a flawed rule in the NFL and I bet you nothing comes of it. How on EARTH can a team evaluate a trade with another player without first knowing what kind of contract that player expects? You cannot risk trading a high draft pick to inherit a contract on its final season without locking that player up with a new long term deal. So-- how on EARTH do you do that without tampering? Everyone does it because you have to." - Couldn't have said it any better myself. I guess I'm just on the outside lookin' in, but it's odd that the Bears are making such a big stink about it. Although I can't prove it, I still bet my bottom dollar that Da Bears have done this themselves at one point in time. What makes their franchise holier than thou? Maybe just sour grapes?? Who know's?? but I'm with Scotty D .... Nothing will probably come of this.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (17/03/2008 3:26:34 PM)
Comment: Who is this guy. I wonder if the Bears are going to accuse us of tampering with this signing. Was OT with the Cards last year I think. Don't expect him to be a huge factor. Did he not play because he was hurt? 2+ years off is a long time to be away form the game.
Posted By: XL (17/03/2008 2:50:08 PM)
Comment: The Raiders should be having a hearing with the nfl for being horrible, having no potential, and having a senile owner
Posted By: Duff-Man (17/03/2008 2:36:20 PM)
Comment: Let's Party! Oh yeah!
Posted By: Erik (17/03/2008 2:26:20 PM)
Comment: Slightly off topic but did you ever see Marques Douglas's contract numbers? Haven't seem then anywhere and I'm trying to figure out if I should be upset that we let him go. Thanks.
Posted By: 9er1 (17/03/2008 2:04:09 PM)
Comment: The Bears won't get the draft pick anyway. If the 9ers are penalized a pick, then they are penalized, but the Bears aren't awarded the pick, that's not how it works.
Posted By: Randy in Santa Rosa (17/03/2008 1:39:44 PM)
Comment: Da Bears are who we thought they were - a bunch of idiots. Goodell should take a pick away from them, once he realizes that they have filed a false claim.
Posted By: Jon in SoCal (17/03/2008 1:39:05 PM)
Comment: I'm pretty sure the niners lose a pick, the Bears don't get one. The Jets and the Rams didn't get an extra pick with Spygate
Posted By: darth (17/03/2008 1:20:10 PM)
Comment: Bears are looking for a free draft pick anyway they can get it.
Posted By: darth (17/03/2008 1:20:06 PM)
Comment: Bears are looking for a free draft pick anyway they can get it.
Posted By: oneniner (17/03/2008 1:16:55 PM)
Comment: tgflynn.....what happens to the ratings if the player pulls a hamstring?...does your so called espn ratings considers injuries ?..if not then the ratings are useless.
Posted By: Mad9erfan (17/03/2008 1:16:17 PM)
Comment: I guess this is just as bad as what the Pats did? Unbelievable. I want to know how Justin Smiley got a deal done so fast with Miami?
Posted By: Scotty D (17/03/2008 1:15:02 PM)
Comment: Matt in SR - you my friend are an idiot - Congratulation. Scott wasn't even the GM until 1 month ago loooong after these charges took place and adding that into your post was nothing short of stupid. Secondly, it's a flawed rule in the NFL and I bet you nothing comes of it. How on EARTH can a team evaluate a trade with another player without first knowing what kind of contract that player expects? You cannot risk trading a high draft pick to inherit a contract on its final season without locking that player up with a new long term deal. So-- how on EARTH do you do that without tampering? Everyone does it because you have to. Secondly, look at the background of most the NFL GM's. They were scouts at one point. Good day fool!
Posted By: Pete (17/03/2008 1:11:22 PM)
Comment: Instead of wasting time and money by sending a contingency of front office personnel to New York to cry over nothing, maybe the Bears should send that contingency to scout some players. They lost their top two receivers, traded their top QB and have no running game to speak of. Maybe the Bears are worried that they will supplant the 49ers with the #32 ranked offense in the league. This is the same Bears organization that prides itself on George Halas, aka "Papa Bear." Halas was the coach/GM/owner who used to sell seats to his most obnoxious fans on the opposing team's bench just to annoy the crap out of them during the game. He'd lace the soap in the opposing team's locker room with itching powder and supply them with dirty towels. When he'd run out of timeouts, he'd have a staff worker send a bulldog onto the field to interrupt the game. He had the Packers temporarily kicked out of the league in 1922 because they signed an undergraduate player (illegal at the time)--Heartly "Hunk" Anderson. Of course, Halas was bitter because he wanted Anderson.
Anyway, I digress but this claim is stupid! Give me a break!
Posted By: RHINO (17/03/2008 1:10:17 PM)
Comment: FOURTH!!!
Posted By: Matt in SR (17/03/2008 12:54:41 PM)
Comment: Hi Matt. Drew Rosehaus and tampering? Nooo really? This would have to open up a can of worms that will hurt the league. Maybe they are using it as a distraction from the Patriots troubles. If the Niners do get dinged for this I think McCloughan has to start answering some questions. His credentials for the job are questionable, he is a scout, not a GM.
Posted By: Chris (17/03/2008 12:52:48 PM)
Comment: I have a feeling Goodell wants to make a statement to everyone and fine the niners regardless of what he thinks.
Matt - any updates on Takeo Spikes???
Posted By: tgflynn (17/03/2008 12:51:37 PM)
Comment: ESPN Free Agent Tracker presents an interesting evaluation tool for grading teams performance in free agency. They list all free agents and rate their abilities, as a yardstick 70-79 means good starter and 60-69 average starters. According to their ratings
Our D-line improves from Young (65) and Douglas (63) to Smith (75) and Sopoaga (67).
The Ted linebacker either slipped from D Smith (64) to Dontarrious Thomas (59) or improves if we get Spikes (69). Wide receiver B Johnson was a (69) whereas others were
Berrian (74), J Walker (70) and Porter (67) it will be interesting to see where Djax rates.
Ratings indicate we lost a good player in Smiley (74- Larry Allen rated -70) and a useful one in Kwame Harris (61) (Barry Sims and George Foster starting tackles Raiders and Lions rated 60) on the offensive line. Calvin Pace (73) was probably overpaid according to this, as was Berrian and Javon Walker. So all in all we look to have done well but I hated to see Smiley go especially since Faneca (31) and rated at (79) got 4 mill a year more.
Posted By: Rich, San Ramon (17/03/2008 12:47:47 PM)
Comment: Does the NFL make the basis for its decision public? Or does it just tell us the decision and punishment?
Posted By: Teddy (17/03/2008 12:33:16 PM)
Comment: I am hoping if anything comes out of this it is only a fine and not a draft pick taken away. Never know with Goodell tougher policies.
Posted By: Dirk 2 (17/03/2008 12:32:23 PM)
Comment: Stupid!
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