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These are the players I think the 49ers will select in the 2017 NFL draft, which starts today.
Round 1, pick No. 2: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M. The Browns have the first pick, and their owner, Jimmy Haslam, needs to sell the team. His company, Pilot Flying J, failed to pay rebates and defrauded many of its customers, including the U.S. Postal Service. Haslam may face indictment, law suits and criminal charges. To sell the Browns for as much money as possible, he needs a face-of-the-franchise quarterback. That’s why Haslam will insist the Browns select quarterback Mitchell Trubisky — an Ohio kid the team can market. And that’s why the best prospect in the draft — Myles Garrett — will fall to the 49ers.
Round 2, pick No. 34: DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame. The Niners need a franchise quarterback, and Kizer has the traits to develop into one if he fixes his footwork.
Round 3, pick No. 66: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington. Many draft experts considered Jones a top-20 pick before he tore his Achilles tendon at his Pro Day. Jones should be ready to play by mid-September.
Round 4, pick No. 109. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson. A pass-catching tight end who fits Kyle Shanahan’s physical profile at this position (think Jordan Reed or Austin Hooper).
Round 4, pick No. 143. Eric Wilson, LB, Cincinnati. A fast middle linebacker (4.48 40-yard dash at his Pro Day) who recorded 129 tackles last season.
Round 5, pick No. 146. T.J. Logan, RB/KR, North Carolina. A fast running back (4.37 40-yard dash at the Combine) who caught 29 passes last season and returned 21 kickoffs for 690 yards and two touchdowns.
Round 5, pick No. 161. Brian Allen, CB, Utah. A 6’3″ cornerback who used to play wide receiver — similar to Richard Sherman.
Round 6, pick No. 198. Rudy Ford, FS, Auburn. A three-year starter who ran a 4.34 40-yard dash at his Pro Day.
Round 6, pick No. 202. Isaiah McKenzie, WR/PR, Georgia. One of the best punt returners in the draft. McKenzie also fits Shanahan’s physical profile for a small wide receiver (think Taylor Gabriel).
Round 7, pick No. 219. Corey Levin, OG, Chattanooga. A small-school guard who fits Shanahan’s outside-zone-blocking scheme.
Outstanding draft Grant. Reminds me of the day when Danny Snyder pulled the same thing with Big Shanny when he made him select RGMe….
Not so outstanding, though, with DeShone Kizer being our selection for QB. We don’t need another strong arm QB who can’t learn how to be accurate, read defenses, and keep focus. There is a currently a highly convincing article describing DeShone as a “pure Millennial” personality, given his lack of focus, inconsistencies, and coddled prima donna “you-can-do-anything” egotistical personality. Better we wait on Cousins and trade for additional 2018 draft picks, all the while Hoyer and Barkley battle it out.
I guess it’s better to be hung for a Lion than hung for a Lamb.
And they call ME delusional. ;p
Look Emperor Napoleon, you don’t have a monopoly on being delusional.
Still wandering?
If the psychotic shoe fits…
You will insert it in your mouth.
No on Kizer Soze. I think they will go for Conley if he falls to 2nd round. third round Peterman. Otherwise, do like some of the picks.
Well I agree that we shouldn’t take Kizer in the 2nd. We take the highest graded DB in round #2 or if a play maker like a Christian McCaffrey, Zay Jones, is available we take them and then go DB in the third and take QB in the 4th. But if we get Garrett in round 1 our Defensive front seven will be scary to face in the next three years. I believe he is such an impact player that others on our Defense will be elevated by his play.
Agree on Kizer, or any QB in the 1st 2 rounds. I do not understand the logic behind mock drafts that show them picking a quarterback late in the 1st or early in the 2nd round. If they do not believe any of the quarterbacks this year are franchise quarterbacks, then why pick one anywhere in the 1st several rounds? Why not build the roster around the QB position, let Hoyer hold the spot for a year, pick one up in the later rounds, and then wait for all of the quarterbacks that wiil/could be available next year (Cousins, Jimmy G, draft prospects)?
Grant,
You are either the 2nd coming of the older Al Davis with your love for speed (which is a bad thing) or Jimmy Johnson from his early Cowboy drafts (which is a good thing) I guess we shall see.
By the way I see no chance of the Browns passing on Garrett.
Those early Cowboy drafts weren’t actually as good as people claim. He, over the first few years, had a huge number of excess picks. So when he drafted a lot of marginal players (with many failures) the not terribly great success rate was hidden by the the sheer number of players. 1989 through 1991 he had:
SIX Round 1 picks.
FOUR Round 2 picks.
SIX Round 3 picks.
FIVE Round 4 picks.
That’s close to six years worth of core-player-round draft picks in three years. Now, he didn’t ‘suck.’ But as we saw later in Dallas then in Miami, he wasn’t special without all those extra picks.
But you’re talking the coach who drafted Troy Aikman in Round 1 then drafted Steve Walsh in Round 1 the same year (1989 supplemental).
I agree. Broen have #12 pick which they will swap for #5. Browns get garret and their qb.
I agree.. Even if Trubisky was worthy of #1 which he absolutely is not, throwing him out there with no protection would be the kiss of death and kill any market value Cleveland was attempting to create. Garrett preserves or adds value. Trubisky does not.. Nice fantasy though..
What did you see yesterday that affected the choices in this mock?
I see them taking at least two lineman with at least one being a mid round selection.
Corner is a bigger need than safety.
My Mock has them taking a S in the 1st, Adams and a CB in the 2nd T. White from LSU.
A quick peak at the depth chart you posted made that pretty clear. First or second pick is a CB for sure.
I don’t know. Another concussion for Reid and what? There’s only Tartt. But, say, we draft Adams, if a starting corner goes down, there’s Ward.
So how did Dontae Johnson look at the Mini Camp?
Grant,
If the Browns draft Garrett do you see there being any chance the 9ers will draft Trubisky and then trade him to the highest bidder? I believe they could get a better deal for the player than the pick.
Take Trubisky, develop him and don’t worry about the QB position for the next 10 years.
http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/105453-surprise-mcshay-myles-garrett-landing-49ers-final-mocks/
“In their latest mock drafts, Kiper and McShay both had the Browns selecting Trubisky. That left Garrett available for the 49ers, which both analysts agreed would be the projected selection for San Francisco.”
I am no draft expert, but Kizer seems like a Kaep reboot. Big, strong arm, inaccurate with bad footwork. Why do we go down this road again? In 3 years this board will be full of Kizer bashing because he is inaccurate.
I get the same feeling. Kap 2.0 ,only with less running.
I hope they can trade back and get some LB help
Three years? Would only take 2 starts for some on this blog…
2 minutes before the second guessing started.
If Garrett falls to us, I suppose we have to draft him.
But NO on Kizer. Hell of a waste of a pick, as this is a very weak class for QBs. Read article from Football Outsiders, below. Besides we have a chance to land Cousins.
http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/insider/story/_/id/19214768/projecting-booms-busts-top-2017-quarterback-prospects-nfl-draft
George,
By Football Outsider’s projection of 2016, Dak was twice as likely to be a bust as Goff. Methinks that this QBASE method is WIP.
Mood, please see below.
It all comes down to where the QB goes and the type of Coaching and talent around him.
That’s true. Dak was lucky he went to Dallas. But in answer to Mood, yes, they admit it’s a WIP. To their credit, though, their system ranked Dak number 2 behind Goff. In my objecting to our drafting Kizer at 34, all I was trying to say that the hyped QBs in this class are over-hyped and that Cousins appears to be in the wings. Therefore, that would be a hell of a wasted pick. Maybe I should have added IMO, but I figure that’s always implied.
Grant:
I hope you are right about the Browns.
If the Niners are able to draft these players it could be an epic draft, I just can’t believe the Browns would do this. It would make more sense to trade for the Niners #2 pick than to lose Garrett, unless they don’t value him as much as the other 31 teams. But who knows; 16 years of failure doesn’t come easy, you have to repeatedly make mistake after mistake.
Garret is overhyped. Several people have stated that Garret disappears for many stretches at a time, and does not play well against top competition. To me, Garrett looks like a bust.
I am guessing the Niners will select DeSean Watson. He is a proven winner, and he has done everything that was asked of him. Also, he is cool under pressure, and delivers at the end of games, as all great quarterbacks should. Just my opinion.
Man I agree about Watson. I mean wth am I or the so called experts missing??? Watson played and played great against top college competition. He showed out in the biggest moments when everything was on the line. My goodness, all the measurables, combine, pro day ect. Is great and all but the man is a winner Period!!! Whom ever picks him will be glad they did so. I just hope it’s the 49ers!!!
Well I agree about Watson being solid and a proven winner, the value for him is not #2 overall, and Garrett has some flaws like you mentioned but if you see his interviews and his hunger to go along with the intangible size, speed, and strength that he has this kid has the makings of greatness…
PS: he may have disappeared at times but 32.5 sacks in three years, not to mention the TLF, and QB hurries, show that he didn’t disappear for long. Great production!!!
I think, rather than Garrett taking plays off, is that he is on the field for 75-90 plays each game. Todd McShay pointed out that the reality is that college football plays much faster than pro football, and thus defenses are facing a lot more plays per game. This leads to defensive players getting tired and not having the same energy throughout the game, which explains Garrett. But, in the NFL, he’s looking at closer to 60-70 plays; I think Garrett will be fine.
I had hoped to do a “What I would do, what the Niners will do” write-up, but work has been busy. So, very quickly, some thoughts:
1. In the first round, if the Browns are dumb enough to take Trubisky, the Niners run up with the Garrett pick, no ifs, ands, or buts.
2. If Browns take Garrett, try to trade back to 6. If not, take Jamal Adams. Complete player, and has the characteristics to be a leader in the locker room (also, has the least amount of questions among the top players; Thomas playing a new position, Hooker has injuries, Allen has shoulder issue, etc.).
3. Among the “second-tier” quarterbacks, I like Nathan Peterman the best. However, it will probably take the Niners’ third round pick, at least, to get him. Don’t know if that works with the other holes the Niners are trying to fill.
4. Big fan of Kareem Hunt, George Kittle, and Amare Darboh among players not in the first couple rounds.
5. Tyus Bowser is more intriguing as an edge rusher/OLB than Carl Lawson or Tim Williams, but may be too small for a LEO.
6. If you want to know what the Niners will do, look who they brought in and spent the most time with (especially late in the process). Jamal Adams had a late visit with Lynch, etc.
7. I hope to be on the blog during the draft to hear everyone’s thoughts about all the picks.
word late yesterday was that the Browns Love Trubisky……!
if you think about it, it makes sense……..they have another first rounder and how many 2nd rounders the next 2 years…?
If they think MT is the GUY…….hes from Ohio ala Lebron……..then they have another 6 picks in the top 2 rounds this year and next to get players at secondary positions to build that roster…….but THIS is their only chance to get THE qb they think can change the franchise!
jrs,
They can have both Garrett and Trubisky, just trade for the 9ers #2 pick.
True, old coach…….but for me personally…….I wouldn’t want the niners to drop back to #12. If we could stay in the top 8-10 id be much happier. This team has very few young building blocks…….idc what position we draft in the first round……I just want a HOF caliber player……
safety is one of our deeper positions….but if Adams or Hooker are the next coming of palamalou or ed reed…..
no cb has ever gone as high as #2……but if Lattimore can be an all time great….
grant has pointed out the shanahans get MAJOR production out of 6th round rb’s and such……but a guy like LF in shany’s system could be an all time great?!
Allen or Thomas would really make thagt D-line a strength…..
but most of these guys would be gone at 12.
Maybe Foster is a guy who could slip to 12??
idk whats gonna happen…..but I’m excited !!
the only thing I would bet $ on…….is that we wont be taking an O-lineman first round…..not because the need isn’t there, but that the value isn’t there…..unless we trade back into the 20’s
I don’t know about taking another IR player but it would be a good pick, though they would get a lot of flack frim the fan base.
Good draft Grant, Garrett would be a home run and would instantly help this defense.
The Niners should be able to choose between Jones, Conley and Witherspoon in Round 3.
Grant,
The Niners will not be drafting Jones. Trent Baalke has left the building, thank God! The Niners were 2-14 last year, and bad teams cannot draft injured players.
Theres enough doubt about Conleys guilt at this point that I think a team takes him in the late second.
Agreed. If everybody thinks Conley will go in the 3rd, some team will snag him or trade up for him in the late 2nd.
Moreau is another option.
“Jones should be ready to play by mid-September.”
Somewhere fishing by a lake, Baalke agrees with Grant..
They are not ACL injuries.
http://theusabulletin.com/2017/04/27/myles-garretts-mom-asks-if-warren-sapp-is-still-relevant-after-criticism-of-son/
Was he ever relevant? I still remember him ****ing Crabtree’s **** all those years as an analyst. When Crabtree was, literally, dropping over 10% of the catchable balls thrown his way and consistently graded out as one of the ‘worst hands’ WRs in the NFL.
Sapp was a big name with a big personality. I don’t think anyone ever took him seriously as an analyst.
I highly doubt Garrett falls to the 49ers. It is more likely that the Browns take Garrett and then trade up from the 12th pick in order to take Trubisky. That trade up could possibly be up to the second pick because no one has an idea of whom the 49ers covet.
Sad but true. I can’t even see the Browns screwing this up.
Grant,
What are your thoughts on Garett’s bust potential?
Dabo singles out Gallman on the offensive side of the ball as a player who epitomizes a football player. He also singles out Dalvin Cook as the offensive weapon he feared most of the ones he faced as head coach….
Cook’s fumblitis should be a concern. Maybe it’s curable…..
Like Gore? 26 fumbles his first 6 years. 16 in his last 6 years. Yes, you can make improvements. But you can’t fully eliminate fumbling.
http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-GM-John-Lynch-knows-Solomon-Thomas-very-well-11103778.php
Just heard on ESPN radio that the line in Vegas for Trubisky being #1 has gone from 12-1 earlier this week to even odds.
Without meaning to be disrespectful, so what?
The Line is not predictive at all. The Line is a reaction to the preponderance of bettors’ choices.
I know that. I put it out there because it’s interesting to watch all the pre-draft (and entirely pointless) drama. I mean, this hype machine around the draft is incredible. Fact is, right now, there are 32 teams in the NLF lying their ***es off while everyone else is projecting based on their biases.
And then these 32 teams will draft some guy, half of them some guy they probably didn’t want (unless it was a trade up then we know they did), and lie about that too saying ‘he was our focus from Day 1.”
And just from the guys picked today, you’ll get some sort of rough distribution of success that’ll be:
One-third will make at least one pro-bowl, of which, three-or-four will have HOF careers. One-third will be okay to good starters with solid, but non-spectacular careers. One-third will fail (and will likely play for at least two teams).
Everyone who was on the band-wagon of that last third will pretend otherwise and rip their ‘know nothing’ GM for the very pick they were hot-and-bothered for… Meanwhile there will be a significant fractions of fans that will be absolutely convinced that their selection will be:
A complete bust
A future HOFer
The most fun of the draft, at least for me, is watching the audience, not the show. And that line is part of the show.
They are just betting on how stupid can Cleveland be.
There is that.
Final mock before the draft. Niners trade back with the Jets, who are not fooling anybody with McCown. They need a QB, and Trubisky is the hot prospect. Niners do not want to trade back so far and lose out out o the players they are targeting. Even though Cleveland has a boatload of picks, the Niners do not need to do them any favors. Serve them right to lose Trubisky by being clueless. Jets may miss out on Trubisky because both the Bears and Jags may pick him, so they need to leapfrog those teams to snag him.
Niners trade pick numbers 2, and throw in pick number 143 since the Jets do not have a 4th round pick. Jets will offer pick numbers 6, 39, 70, and include a 2018 third round pick to help balance the TVC.
Niners trade pick number 34 to the Bengals for pick numbers 41 and 116
Niners end up with pick numbers 6, 39, 41, 66, 70, 109, 116, 146, 161, 198, 202, 219, along with the Jets 2018 third round pick.
Using the CBS DB, and trying to pick within 5 of the ranking, the Niners could select-
6- Malik Hooker S. Niners need an Earl Thomas type of player.
39- Jarrad Davis ILB
41- Carl Lawson DE
66- Dalvin Tomlinson DT
70- Davis Webb QB
109- Tanoh Kpassagnon DE
116- D’onta Foreman RB
146- Jonnu Smith TE
161- Jermaine Eluemunor OG
198- Noah Brown WR
202- Stevie Tu’iklovatu NT
219- Matt Milano OLB
Using the Draftek DB, the Niners could select-
6- Malik Hooker S
39- Carl Lawson EDGE
41- Montravius Adams DT
66- Fabian Moreau CB
70- Davis Webb QB
109- D’onta Foreman RB
116- Jordan Leggett TE
146- Jehu Chesson WR
161- Connor Harris ILB
198- DJ Jones NT
202- Jermaine Eluemunor OG
219- Hunter Dimick EDGE
Man are you stupid!
Prime, lets see your mock.
I could use a good laugh.
I posted in last week dummy!
And I ripped it apart, Just giving you a last chance to look a teensy bit smarter.
Yeah you did. That short term memory is dwindling. Keep smoking pot moron!
He nailed the trade. Who is stupid?
Your final draft is 2? Do you know what final means! Lol.
Using 2 different draft boards, I still had Hooker, Lawson, Webb, Foreman and Eluemunor.
The second one is probably better, because I included a CB, so I will call that my final final mock.
I like your board. Very solid.. I would take your board over any of the others I’ve seen on this thread thus far.. Your scenario thinking makes a lot more sense than Trubisky going #1 in an attempt to add Market Value to the Cleveland Browns. We’ll see..
TY
Nailed the trade. Good job..
After the draft when he can’t post several mocks a day, he’ll switch over to posting screen shots of his Suduko games results.
Just wait until we can start talking about game strategies and game management….
Of course, you will contribute nothing but more snark.
And you, Your Excellency, will provide brilliant insight–which will cause the 9er coaching staff to drop everything and seek your wisdom…but only if you choose too share all…preening comes first.
Cassie, sure am glad your daddy was fired, because it sure seemed like he did exactly the opposite of what I was advocating. Maybe this year we will not see players playing out of position.
That will be entertaining…..YOU talking strategy. It’s been a laugh riot in the past.
As boring as your mocks are, they have at least some factual data basis because you’re plagerizing ratings and then reworking the draft permutations (like a board game). Your ridiculous notions on game planning and strategy are what you’re known for: farts in a sack.
Yup, starting the snark even sooner than I expected.
Farts in a presser?
I want to be entertained, BT lets see your last mock, now that we got Grants report from the practice.
Cassie, too. She talks a good game, but then craters like her daddy did.
Are you not entertained? In the movie Gladiator, Seb would be Commodus…
Oh you’re so perceptive! My last mock? I thought you were the one keeping score Gameboy.
You hadn’t noticed that I don’t offer mocks, because while just harmless fun, they’re just fantasies. Others have fun with them and I read with interest when I respect the source.
C’mon, Cassie, dazzle me with your insights.
Throw up a mock, unless you are afraid to should how little you know.
BT, what a profile in courage. I thought Vietnam vets were brave…..
Seb,
That last Vet comment was uncalled for, not cool at all.
Agree OldCoach. While I ended up in South Korea mid-70s, my brother did two combat tours in Vietnam.
Sorry Old Coach, but maybe he should not attack so viciously. Just returning fire.
It’s a very small world you live in
Seb is a very small individual
BT, I am looking forward to this draft. Guess you have nothing better to do like Prime, so you want to use me as a punching bag.
Well, guess what? I punch back.
Sure sounds like you want to dish it out, but cant take it.
Engage me all you want, but dont go all emo on me. I am wondering how the process unfolds, but the 3 guttersnipes are deciding to try and get their pound of flesh.
This is a blog. This is not the 49er war room. There will be many positions and opinions expressed. Bullying and trying to shout me down does not work, and you are guilty of repeatedly trying.
I would respect you more if you had the guts to present a mock, instead of ripping mine all the time.
Guess what? they are very easy to do. Go on Fanspeak and they will do the work for you.
So yes, I will call you a chicken , afraid of being ridiculed. Guess what? This Game boy is not afraid of a little ridicule, because this is a blog, and words cannot hurt me. Obviously, you cannot stand even the littlest amount of criticism, so I will say it again. Get over it. Grow up. This is not my first rodeo, and frankly, I have seen it all.
If you want to discuss the Niners and football in general in a calm respectful manner, I will do the same. But if you want to rip and tear into me to try and feel superior, I will fight back. I do not suffer fools gladly, and maybe you do not realize it, but I can have a sharp tongue.
So, it is your choice. I will keep talking about the team I love, but if you think you want to engage me, game on.
East you know what Seb is doing right?
Puts out 100 mock drafts then comes back and pats himself on the back because he might a few correct.
Classic Seb seeking attention.
Prime, you do seem a tiny bit smarter today, but a broken clock is right only twice a day.
Of course, I postulated a bunch of trade back scenarios, and if Lynch manages to follow one, guess who will recall his post.
Last mock before the draft last year, I predicted Buckner, Garnett and Fahn Cooper. Do not know if I will get any right this year, because I am counting on Lynch being shrewd enough to manage to trade back.
Still, if the Niners manage to select all the players on my last mock, I will jump for joy, and predict a non losing season.
In this last mock, the Niners trade back, and still get the player they originally targeted.
IICRC, you did not get even one correct call. Probably will do the same this year.
Seb you act like I care. I don’t. You just add static to the blog.
Prime, you care so much, you haunt my posts.
Seb is akin to a self-licking ice cream cone…exists only serve his self interests.
Hah ha ha Cassie, hilarious! you and BT have me rolling on the floor! Such withering ridicule yet he licks his chops and comes back for more. Such delusional, attention-craving, self-obsession is rare on a sports forum and cause for guffawing celebration, no need to feel bored while waiting for Draft Fest . . .
GnomoD, my post to BT is also directed at you.
You bring nothing to this site.
It’s not a final mock. It’s two mocks. Pick one and shut finally up
And never ever mention vets again. Wash your mouth. Disrespectful little stupid man
You do not know the history between BT and me, and he was the one who started on about how I was a coward.
Vets have served the country honorably, but that does not give them the right to feel superior and talk down to others, Just like former players need not diss fans because they had played the game.
Vietnam vets went through hell, but they also created some, too, like My Lai.
You compared your courage at posting mock drafts to the courage of a vet in Nam. That’s beyond stupidity.
I did. The latter one.
The 9ers have ten picks and you’ve selected 20 players in your “final” mock. I’m understanding how you got a couple right last year now.
Looks good but i think they draft budda baker #34 or maybe even move back into the first round to get him before Atlanta
If Garrett is there you, obviously you select him. However, I’m skeptical the Browns pass on him. If the Browns really want Tribusky, they can draft Garrett and still trade up and get the UNC kid. If Garrett is gone, I would love to see the Niners trade back and compile picks. I would love to see the Niners draft the Reddick kid from Temple. I think he fills two weaknesses for the Niners with his LB skills and ability to rush the passer on 3rd down. I’m still hoping we can draft Joe Williams from Utah at some point in the draft (not sure that happens though).
Skip
Good choices…both of them….and could be available in 3-5 rounds…
Saw video of Aaron lynch didn’t look fat and moved well is he still #59
I saw it too. Unsure what drove Grant’s conclusion…
Yes. Lynch makes Ahmad Brooks seem small.
Cam Inman reported him to be in shape
You can see with your own eyes he’s at least 285 pounds. That’s not in shape.
Oh god let this draft come true just like this!!!!!!
Repost of my final mock.
Rd 1 Jamal Adams SS
Rd 2 Jordan Willis DE
Rd 3 Ahkello Witherspoon CB
Rd 4 Carlos Henderson WR
Rd 4 Joe Mathis LB
Rd 5 Jerod Evans QB
Rd 5 Brian Allen CB
Rd 6 Elijah Lee LB
Rd 6 Aaron Jones HB
Rd 7 Corey Levin OG
If the Browns take Trubisky I would take Myles Garret at #2 and Evan Engram at #34. The rest of my mock would be the same.
+1
Well done 80.
My mock is fairly similar to yours.
Rnd 1 02.) Jamaal Adams SS
Rnd 2 34.) Zach Cunningham MLB
Rnd 3 66.) Ahkello Witherspoon CB
Rnd 4 109) Joe Mathis LEO
Rnd 4 146.) George Kittle/Adam Shaheen TE
Rnd 5 161.) Corey Levin OG
Rnd 5 186.) Joe Williams/Aaron Jones RB
Rnd 6 202.) Robert Davis/Josh Malone WR
Rnd 7 219.) Jerod Evans QB
I suppose I was relying on Evans to fall to the 7th, but it seems I could be wrong :)
Strong mock. I could be wrong about Evans in the 5th. The last three rounds are hard to project.
C’mon Chris you can’t have backup choices ;)
Only Evans is head scratching. Best qb in Shanny’s system might end up being Peterman. No way he’s still there in the 5th, though. Otherwise neat draft.
I think Evans has potential and would be good value in the 5th. I also like Peterman better.
I’m with you on the Adams pick at if we stay at #2. Just heard Greg Cosell mention that Adams is a complete safety who has a great feel for the game and you can use him multiple ways. He also mentioned there a no scheme limitations with Adams.
#80
VERY good mock….my favorite so far
Thanks Ore.
Nice mock. My only quibble is selecting 2 CBs. Maybe instead of Brian Allen, you could have gone for a TE.
I think we need two CBs since Brock is gone. I’m not sold on Johnson. Point taken on a TE. But they have McDonald and Paulsen. If McDonald hadn’t been extended I think they might would have targeted a TE in the 2nd or 3rd.
This draft is just so loaded on TE talent, and like you and Dontae, I am not sold on Vance. Paulsen is more of a blocker. I just want a TE with sticky fingers.
Juszcyck is their pass catching TE, effectively.
Juszczyk is 6′ 1″ and runs a 4.71 forty.
George Kittle is 6’4″ and runs a 4.52 forty, and might be available at that draft spot.
So? Big whoopty. Juszcyck is an excellent pass catcher. He wasn’t given the big contract to play sparingly. He will be used a lot in this offense as a pass catcher, effectively taking the role a TE would otherwise serve.
Ha!
I don’t think a safety has ever gone #2..
Okay…who will be the last player taken…Mr. Irrelevant? I’ll say Justin Davis, SoCal…
I haven’t read alot of comments so I don’t know if this has been brought up, but Grant what do you think of the comments by Warren Sapp, Shannon Sharpe, and others about Myles Garrett’swork ethic? About how only 13 of his career sacks came against sec schools, and Derrick Barnett had 28 against said schools. Nobody is bringing this up, but what are your thoughts on it?
Raiders accelerated their rebuild buy drafting a quarterback killer (Mack, 5) and Quarterback (Carr, 36). If you can get those cornerstone players in the same draft, its a coup.
Grant, what is your level of confidence the Browns take Trubisky #1?
I’m still leaning 99% Browns take Garrett. They’ve been contacting several teams about a trade. Choosing Garrett first, then trading up for Trubisky will cost the Browns far less picks than taking Trubisky 1, then trying to trade up for Garrett.
NFL Network just said the 49ers are looking to trade down, but they have their own chart and won’t do it just to do it. Also, they are leaning defense and they like Adams and Thomas.
Could be just projecting likelihoods, but if ist hard information I like it. That’s the exact plan I’d make.
NFL Net reporting three teams calling Lynch today about #2 and beginning to talk specifics. They say SF has established their value and identified a few folks they could like at #2, and so won’t trade back just to do so. They (NFL Net) have two guys sniffing around Santa Clara today.
Missed it by THAT much!
The 49ers have the dubious luck of sucking when it isnt worth it to suck. This drat will be flash backs of 2005. They will be stuck drafting a player because no one wants to trade after Garrett is picked luckThere isnt a clear #2 so here comes the best player available speech…cue Lynch’s mic
This is what I will call a prediction mock. My first one a couple of days ago was based on what I would do. This one will be trying to predict what the ShanaLynch contingent do. I think they will be conservative due to it being their first draft and shy away from injured players and sickie wife beaters: In other words I think they are going to play it safe.
2: R1P2
Edge – Solomon Thomas
34: R2P2
CB – Tre’Davious White
66: R3P2
QB – Nathan Peterman
109: R4P2
S – Justin Evans
143: R4P36
WR – DeDe Westbrook
146: R5P2
Edge – Trey Hendrickson
161: R5P17
LB – Marquel Lee
198: R6P14
RB – Joe Williams
202: R6P18
DL Steve Tu’ikolovatu
219: R7P1
WR – Robert Davis
Very solid and Razor will like your first and last pick.
Play it safe… yet take DeDe Westbrook and Joe Williams :-P
They aren’t injured and haven’t beaten up any women…as far as I know :)
Um, didn’t Westbrook get arrested (twice) for domestic violence?
He was 18 and no charges were ever laid. He just finished a career at OU with zero issues so I don’t think it’s going to affect him. If it is a problem then another speedy receiver like Carlos Henderson would make sense instead.
I don’t know if it is an issue moving forward or not. Just thought it was funny you said they were going to play it safe regarding character concerns then had a guy with two arrests for domestic violence in your mock. :-)
Yeah that wasn’t well thought out on my part:P
I had Jehu Chesson. He is ranked 148 on the CBS DB.
Carlos Henderson is ranked 98.
Joe Williams, baby! I love it. I dropped him out of my mock draft because I think he’s going to get picked in the third or fourth round.
Yeah I figured you’d like that Grant. He’s great value on day 3 if he falls.
I’d be more than ok if the draft turned out the way you have it. I can’t believe Cleveland will be that stupid but hey we’ll take it if they are.
If they take Trubisky with the first pick, that wouldn’t be a football decision.
No it would not.
I would take Joe Williams in the 4th if he is there. Love that kid
I would take him in the third, but the Niners have bigger needs.
Joe Williams in the 4th it is. Love the pick!
You nailed Thomas. Good job..
Nice one Grant.
I still find it hard to believe the Browns would pass on Garrett. If Garrett is gone, who is your second choice for #2?
My final mock:
1. Jamal Adams
2. Deshone Kizer
3. Ahkello Witherspoon
4a. Joe Mathis
4b. Blair Brown
5a. Elijah Qualls
5b. Sam Tevi
6a. Aaron Jones
6b. Robert Davis
7. Rudy Ford
1/2. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State.
2/34. DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame.
3/66. Duke Riley, LB, LSU.
4/109. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson.
4/143. Keion Adams, DE, Western Michigan.
5/146. T.J. Logan, RB/KR, UNC.
5/161. Brian Allen, CB, Utah.
6/186. Rudy Ford, FS, Auburn.
6/202. Isaiah McKenzie, WR/PR, Georgia.
7/219. Corey Levin, OG, Chattanooga.
Nice.
Grant,
I love the Keion Adams pick. He is my sleeper of the draft.
Thanks. He’s a great athlete.
Hmm, Keion Adams must be your sleeper pick. He is rated 241 on the CBS DB.
Definite sleeper.
This one is good too.
Thank you.
I like it. Nice one.
Meant for Scooter, but also applies to Grant’s which I just read. The mocks have been really strong on here. Good job everyone!
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Report: Myles Garrett will be the No. 1 pick
“Myles Garrett will the Browns pick at No. 1, multiple league sources say” – Browns reporter Mary Kay Cabot
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/04/myles_garrett_will_be_the_brow.html
I wonder if an ultimatum was served: ‘Garrett or you get a new head coach.’
Browns will try to get Trubisky cheap, and will miss out on him when the Jets may leapfrog the Bears and Jags to poach him.
Cleveland will not have to part with a first round pick, so I do not know why they think they will overpay for their franchise QB with second and third round picks. Sashi Brown may be just as clueless and cheap as Baalke.
The Jets would be an ideal trade back partner. 2 for the Jets 6+39 could work. Maybe sweeten the pot with pick swaps… 2+109 for the Jets 6+39+70
My mock had 2+143 because they did not have a 4th round pick.
I wanted to get pick number 70 because I have the Niners selecting Davis Webb at 70.
Grant, given your insight into the trouble Browns’ owner, I am a bit surprised you don’t think the Browns will trade up to #2. From what I hear, management and ownership wants Trubiski, but the coaches want Garrett. Thus, it seems a perfect solution to trade #12 plus multiple draft picks for our #2. That should make everyone happy in the short term. Browns would get the two top picks, which would certainly rally the Cleveland fans to buying into the team’s new era.
I think Browns will get Trubisky one way or another.
My off the wall trade back scenario…
1) If the 49ers trade back 6-12 range
2) Trade back again with the Broncos (20+Paxton Lynch) or Skins (17+Cousins)
Word has it the Broncos are eager to move up.
That would be terrific.
– Heard Broncos like McCaffrey
– Heard Broncos were trying to move up from 20
– Heard John Lynch say a few months back people were too inpatient with the development of Paxton Lynch, and he would turn out fine
– Elway and John Lynch are close friends
Come hell or high water?
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Report: Pat Mahomes expected to go in top 10
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This is terrible news. I was really hoping he would end up on a solid team with a veteran QB so he could sit for a year or two. If he goes this high it means it’ll be to a QB needy team and he’ll be thrust into the starting job too soon.
Could be the Cards trade up for him, let him learn behind Palmer.
There certainly are worse QB’s to learn from. I was/am really hoping he ends up in Pittsburgh.
He’ll be fine with Arians.
My thoughts, too.
I like Mahomes but that is really high for him. The talent is definitely there but he’s got a lot of mechanical issues to work out and also will need to learn how to play in a very different system than he’s used to. Which ever team takes him better give him time or it’s going to be a disaster.
Could be the Chargers who will need an eventual replacement for Rivers.
Mahomes would be strong with a Rivers running through him.
I see the Panthers trying to trade up to #2 to get Fornette. I believe that he is the player they covet and don’t believe he will be there at 8. Niners will stockpile draft picks and select Reddick at #8 (in my humble opinion).
Good call. Haason Reddick is very fast and talented, and would fill a big need.
“Pauline also hears that Colorado CB Chidobe Awuzie is currently being undervalued and Alabama CB Marlon Humphrey is the most overrated player and could drop out of round 1 altogether.”
http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-rumors-solomon-thomas-corey-davis-draft-eagles/
If the Titans don’t trade out of #5 they go with either Lattimore or Hooker. Pretty sure at least one of those will still be available at #5.
One of their first round picks will be either John Ross or Mike Williams.
Titans + Lattimore + Ross = playoffs.
My best guess — and pure speculation — is that the Niners trade down and pick up at least an extra 2nd and 3rd and and another 2nd or 3rd next year. Depending on where that leaves them in the first determines who they garner, possibly McCaff, best DB or S, or edge rusher. If they stand pat on #2 I think they’ll select Adams or Thomas. Soon enough we’ll all know..
No matter how you slice or dice the draft it is going to be a revealing event and a management growth experience.
Reposting my one and only mock – for the record :)
No DL with the exception of an edge rusher. It just seems to me that the DL is already stocked. Also, some of the selections might be wishful thinking on my part that the player will still be available.
2. Malik Hooker – FS – great fit for single high safety. With the Hooker selection, Ward moves to CB.
34. Cam Robinson – OT – Joe Staley won’t be around forever. Not convinced that Trent Brown can move to LT.
66. Jordan Willis – Edge Rusher – high motor, productive edge rusher.
109. Rasul Douglas – CB – tall lengthy CB in the Seattle tradition.
143. Dede Westbrook – WR – unclear if previous domestic violence issues (no convictions) will make him untouchable for Lynch.
146. Brad Kaaya or Nathan Peterman – QB -(note: I now prefer Peterman)
161. Kenny Golladay – WR – potential red zone threat due to size and length.
198. Aaron Jones – RB – 1773 yards in 2016.
202. Corey Levin – OL – for reasons Grant and Scooter stated earlier.
219. Elijah Lee – LB – good pass defender.
Kizer is a terrible pick. Josh Hobbs is better than him and you can get him in the 7th round. It looks like Adams or Thomas with the second pick. The secondary class is the best in years. Take advantage of this. Pick the best corner on the board with our second round pick.
Rapoport – “My understanding of what is happening right now: Everyone is calling everyone in the top 10, feeling each other out. Nothing dramatic (yet)”
This is exciting!
Taking a stab at a first round mock:
Cleveland – Myles Garrett
SF – Solomon Thomas
Chicago – Jamal Adams
Jax – Leonard Fournette
Tennessee – Marshon Lattimore
NYJ – OJ Howard
LAC – Malik Hooker
Carolina – Christian McCaffrey
Cincy – Jonathan Allen
Buffalo – Mike Williams
NO – Derek Barnett
Cleveland – Mitch Trubisky
AZ – Pat Mahomes
Philly – Dalvin Cook
Indy – Reuben Foster
Baltimore – Corey Davis
Washington – Hassan Reddick
Tennessee – John Ross
TB – Ryan Ramczyk
Denver – Cam Robinson
Detroit – Charles Harris
Miami – Forrest Lamp
NYG – Garett Bolles
Oakland – Jarrad Davis
Houston – Deshaun Watson
Seattle – Kevin King
KC – DeShone Kizer
Dallas – Jordan Willis
GB – Takkarist McKinley
Pittsburgh – David Njoku
Atlanta – Taco Charlton
NO – Chidobe Awuzie
Impressive. I count four of your picks as bingo..
I don’t see the Browns trading Garrett. But Cleveland needs talent more than the need a home town novelty.
I’m a little surprise that my fellow bloggers aren’t counting Leonard Fournett as a possible #2 pick.
Carlos Hyde simply can’t be depended on to finish a full season. Fournett would immediately give us an impact type player and someone that poses the same threat that Adrian Peterson had for the Vikings.
And Fournett would also help in keeping pressure off the QB which is huge considering we don’t have a top-shelf O-line.
Leonard Fournett is a reach and may not make sense, but I would be ok if the Org went that route.
I think that the consensus is that Shanahan has done well with RBs selected in much later rounds so there doesn’t seem to be any need to select a RB early.
cubus,
I know that that has been the general consensus around here, but Fournett has the potential to be this years Ezekiel Elliott. Fournett could be a man playing among boys at the next level.
AES I agree with you about Fournett.. If Niners decide to go Offense with the 2nd pick I’m inclined to think they will pick Fournett and not a QB. None of these QB’s merit such a high pick and next season would be much more favorable to acquire that franchise qb either in Cousins or a more talented draft in that important position. That being said, chances may be they target Peterman in the third or early fourth rounds . . .
Or O.J. Howard.
Three reasons:
1. He’s a between the tackles, north-south power-back kind of guy. In short, he’s a bad fit for this offense that requires a RB who can attack the entire LOS.
2. To rebuild a team you try and avoid drafting to an area where you have better strengths compared to your weaknesses. The 49ers are desperate at pass rush. Unproven at CB. Need a long-term #1 WR. Have no long-term QB. Do not have a quality TE. Could really, really, really use an upgrade at LB.
Hyde, otoh, averaged 4.6 YPC. Hightower averaged 4.0 the past two seasons as a Saints back up.
3. Shanahan’s offense, like his father’s before him, (or Walsh’s for that matter) doesn’t require an elite running back to function well. At halfback Walsh got by on Paul Hofer, Lenville Elliot, Bil Ring, etc. until he traded for Wendell Tyler in 1983. (Cooper, whom he drafted in 1980, was a FB-TE.)
Brian Hill.
AES, I think its possible. The positive things you say about Fournette are true, and I don’t think he’s a reach. But you might also be able to say that about Cook, and he might be available in round 2. Cook would likely run wild in a Shanahan offense. I would be surprised if they drafted Fournette due to the scheme misfit.
http://www.patspulpit.com/2017/4/27/15461334/browns-tell-myles-garrett-he-will-1st-overall-pick-leaves-door-slightly-cracked-for-jimmy-garoppolo
http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/27/15442914/arik-armstead-injury-update-leo-new-49ers-defense
“Armstead explained that the injury that ended his second season in the NFL was a torn labrum in his left shoulder that he had been dealing with since high school. He detailed that in the past, he would feel better after rehabbing it and then would occasionally pop out of place on him. He re-injured it in last season’s training camp and several times during the season, and it happened though to where the only viable solution was surgery that took place before the 2016 season ended. He is excited to get on the field with his team without having to worry about treating or re-injuring it.”
“He noted that he doesn’t have a specific position yet but that all of the defensive line are playing in multiple positions for now while the coaching staff evaluates where each player fits best.”
Shoulder surgery is the most difficult.
If that is true, then how on earth was it missed at the Combine medical evaluations? I don’t remember anything like that being mentioned leading up to the 2015 draft.
Good question.
My daughter’s fiance has a similar shoulder issue. In short, when the shoulder is working you can’t tell it’s got problems. It’s only when it dislocates can you tell.
And I bet you dollars to donuts, he didn’t tell anyone.
That still doesn’t answer my question.
I’m buying it. It makes sense when you consider his inconsistency. He’ll go through stretches when the kid looks like Superman, and then he”ll go through stretches when he more closely resembles Clark Kent.
That’s a bit of an exaggeration of course. But there’s no question he was a different player after he aggravated his shoulder in last years training camp. Specifically, his struggles to effectively stack-and-shed linemen was apparent and absolutely indicative of a torn labrum.
Armstead strikes me as a guy who can play multiple roles on this DL and I expect a break out season for him if his shoulder heals correctly!
He will never be the same post a torn shoulder labrum.. Already has trouble playing low. He’s got bust written all over him. Thanks Trent. His shoulder issue should have been common knowledge for idiot Baalke..
Kizer entered the 2016 season with high hopes, having started the final 11 games as a redshirt freshman the year before for a club that finished a surprising 10-3.
“This is a team that will likely be favored in their first 11 games,” wrote Phil Steele in his College Football Preview. “That could put them 11-0 when they travel to USC for a game with probably playoff implications … they are a legitimate national title contender.”
Kizer was voted the team’s MVP but it was a hollow award, to be sure. One of the nation’s most disappointing teams, the Irish posted their second worst record (4-8) in 54 years.
“You look at that team, they’ve got players,” an AFC personnel man said. “There’s no way they should win just four games. It was because of this guy, the quarterback. Boy, at times he looked bad. He was so bad against Stanford in the first half that they benched him.”
Two weeks after the season ended, Kizer renounced his final two years of eligibility having posted a 12-11 record in 23 starts.
“He is the classic boom or bust,” said an AFC evaluator. “In terms of arm strength, athleticism, talent, intelligence, he’s the highest-end guy. At the same time, he’s also the one with the most flaws.”
No one should wear a white checkered suit. EVER.
I’ll be honest, Jamal Adams is near the top of my “best dressed” list. I thought he looked sharp and stood out without looking ridiculous.
The checkered pattern was too much for me.
Lynch must feel like he’s in the rocket countdown to take off for the moon. Adrenalin is pumping, or is that the Haze? Dunno, but this is getting exciting!
Hope those O rings don’t rupture…
I’ve mentioned this once before and I’ll say it only once more. Kizer, IMO, would be a dreadful and erroneous pick, one we would acutely regret. Let’s not, oh I beseech thee 49er Illustrious, let’s not go down that misery-inducing road again. We’re still licking the wounds left by the last impostor. Let’s invest in high-percentage players only and rebuild this Dynasty.
My clock is a little skewered down here in these equatorial mountains — how many minutes till the draft action actually begins?
There still doing the BS garbage of introducing the top prospects. I so long for the days when they just got down to business instead trying to be all ****ing Hollywood about it.
Kinda like WWE.
Andes 18 minutes counting
I agree. Of all the potential high-round QB picks, Kizer has ended up on the bottom of my list. He was a negative for Notre Dame, then instead of trying to get better, he quit and went to the NFL.
It’s like Glen Coffee and Colin Kaepernick were fused into a single player.
Lol., no more burnt KaeperCoffee, thanks just the same . . .
I can’t say for certain that Kizer will develop into the top QB in this class, but I can say I don’t see anything in his game, or personality that reminds be CK7. Kizer’s throwing motion is far more natural than CK’s, and he’s got a much quicker release. By all accounts he’s a humble, coachable, hard working kid.
In fact, DeShone Kizer’s flaws are the kind of flaws that are very coachable, IMO. I like his value in the early 2nd round, but if I’m certain Cousins is on a mission to play for the 49ers in 2018, I’m looking in a different direction.
And Glen Coffee analogy is idiotic. Kizer left college because he’s got a chance to be a first round pick. I see nothing wrong with that, whatsoever!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/27/report-browns-will-pick-myles-garrett-first-overall/
“By the lawns early light…” What the H??? The worst national anthem in the history of whatever.
I shut my sound down in the first five seconds. It had ‘train wreck’ written all over it.
Just in case…
2: R1P2
EDGE MYLES GARRETT
TEXAS A&M
34: R2P2
QB NATHAN PETERMAN
PITTSBURGH
66: R3P2
CB AKHELLO WITHERSPOON
COLORADO
109: R4P2
RB D’ONTA FOREMAN
TEXAS
143: R4P36
TE GERALD EVERETT
SOUTH ALABAMA
146: R5P3
ILB ELIJAH LEE
KANSAS STATE
161: R5P17
G DAVID SHARPE
FLORIDA
198: R6P14
OT LEVON MYERS
NORTHERN ILLINOIS
202: R6P18
FS DAVID JONES
RICHMOND
219: R7P1
K ZANE GONZALEZ
ARIZONA STATE
All right, the action begins . . .
Grant:
We need a new blog topic for the draft. Thanks.
I second that.
Have fun fellas here it comes??
Woohoo! Enjoy everyone.
Jesus. Just shut up and start drafting.
Talkers talking trade-ups.
Happy Draftmas.
Except Sebative; f y
BT, I wish to apologize for my insensitive remarks. It was not wise to open old wounds.
Forthwith I plan on ignoring your comments, and hope you do the same to me.
I stand with my brothers. I scorn you.
Philly is giving Roger all he can handle… could be a long night for that fraudulent toad…
I fully admit that I ave no idea what will happen. I trust in the football acumen of Lynch and his staff. No leaks is just music to my ears, and I fully expect that he will make sharp, shrewd picks.
GO NINERS
There it is Razor!
Jed needs a redo on his comb over. Looked like a full moon on top of his pate…
Good selection. And that kid will be great in Chicago — two years from now if he sits for a year…