Roman on Kaepernick: “He’s definitely a player that is ascending. We’re definitely excited about having him as our QB.”

SANTA CLARA — Greg Roman spoke in the media tent Friday afternoon. Here is a transcript.

Q: How much did the Saints overextend themselves to stop your running game?

ROMAN: They did definitely made a heavy investment in it, and we pretty much forecasted that. It was definitely an extreme investment on their part. We felt that they would do that. They mixed it up, though, throughout the game. It wasn’t an every-play thing. It was basically a 9-man front quite a bit.

Q: Why haven’t you been able to exploit that in the passing game.

ROMAN: I think it’s a function of making a few more plays. You look at that game, we make one or two more plays, we win the game. The week before, we make one or two more plays, we win the game. We’re always striving for improvement. We’re certainly not a finished product. I think those opportunities are out there and the roof is going to blow off. It’s going to pop. It’s coming if we keep working like we’re working. It will come.

Q: You’ve had fewer than 200 yards of offense the past two games. Does that surprise you?

ROMAN: I’d say the past few weeks have not been up to our standard or the standard of production we expect and work for. It’s simply a function of getting back to work, identifying problems, fixing those problems and reemphasizing the positive things. You can go back at the New Orleans game last week and I’d say there were some incredibly positive things – great throws, great catches, great plays made – even moreso than some games we’ve won. Overall though, the past couple of weeks have been grinders. We’ve got to make a few more plays. That’s what we’re working to do.”

Q: Colin Kaepernick is taking some criticism. How much of that is fair?

ROMAN: I don’t pay attention. I don’t think anybody really pays attention to what’s being said or perceived or where people are placing blame, etc. We look at it as an offense, each individual player, and we understand it takes 11 guys to make it work. Whatever is being said outside really doesn’t factor in. I’d say he did a lot of really good things in that game. There are a couple of plays I’m sure he’d like to have back, but there always is. It’s something that’s going to keep on improving as we keep on working. I love his attitude. I love his interaction with his teammates. Like I said, it’s going to keep improving. It’s going to pop here soon.

Q: These past few weeks, has he spent extra time studying film, extra time talking to you, extra time on the field?

ROMAN: Yes. The answer is vehemently yes. Colin works extremely hard. He’s an early riser. He spends a lot of time studying film. We have iPads now, so he’s always on his iPad studying film, interacting with us. He’s got an A+ work ethic. And communication flow is very good.

GC: Kaepernick’s stats are down across the board from last season, as I’m sure you know – passer rating, completion percentage, touchdown percentage, yards per attempt, etc. Why?

ROMAN: I don’t think looking at the stats – we’re not chasing stats, but in general it’s never just one thing, good or bad. Colin is doing a lot of really good things well. Those things aren’t necessarily reflected in the stats, especially the past couple weeks. He’s definitely a player that is ascending. We’re definitely excited about having him as our quarterback.

GC: How specifically is Kaepernick ascending? It seems like he’s in a slump.

ROMAN: Understanding the game, understanding of his job – again, these things aren’t reflected this week as we stand here right now. As far as his development as a quarterback, this is incredibly valuable for him to go through these types of situations, battle his way out and learn from them. To play quarterback in this league is a tall task. Over time, there are so many different things you’ll encounter, so many different players you’ll play with, all of those different things that contribute to your growth as a quarterback, your recognition skills, understanding where the weaknesses in defenses are, how guys match up, protection schemes, run schemes, all the different things on his plate. And that’s just part of a quarterback’s development. This is a very opportunistic time for him to learn and get better from.

Q: You said Carolina is a line-up-and-do-what-they-do defense. From an offensive standpoint, how much of a line-up-and-do-what-we-do offense are you guys and how much do you tweak what you do based on the team you’re facing, or in the case of Colin getting multiple plays in the huddle and changing at the line of scrimmage – what do you strive for?

ROMAN: We strive for production and winning. We’ll do whatever we think is best, puts us in the best situation to win. Sometimes it’s line up and do what you do. Sometimes it’s uptempo. Sometimes it’s we need to make sure that we’ve got this covered, do you want to run the ball into a safety blitz? If there’s a bad play, we might need to get out of it, that type of thing. But all those things are different week to week and our guys do a great job assimilating them and understanding what we’re trying to get done and working on them and working together and executing them.

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  1. They did definitely made a heavy investment in it, and we pretty much forecasted that. It was definitely an extreme investment on their part. We felt that they would do that. They mixed it up, though, throughout the game. It wasn’t an every-play thing. It was basically a 9-man front quite a bit.

    I think it’s a function of making a few more plays. You look at that game, we make one or two more plays, we win the game. The week before, we make one or two more plays, we win the game.

    translation: we had the right game plan. the players just didn’t make the plays.

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  3. Okay, Roman, 49ers have six more games to blow off the roof and make things pop to get into the playoffs. Hopefully the fuse doesn’t fizzle and die on Monday night.

  4. Of-course they are hearing the criticism, they can’t be oblivious on what is happening, they have Neighbors, wife’s, kids that are hearing it from other kids at school. Players are on twitter.

  5. “Understanding the game, understanding of his job – again, these things aren’t reflected this week as we stand here right now. As far as his development as a quarterback, this is incredibly valuable for him to go through these types of situations, battle his way out and learn from them. To play quarterback in this league is a tall task. Over time, there are so many different things you’ll encounter, so many different players you’ll play with, all of those different things that contribute to your growth as a quarterback, your recognition skills, understanding where the weaknesses in defenses are, how guys match up, protection schemes, run schemes, all the different things on his plate. And that’s just part of a quarterback’s development. ”

    In other words, Kap is learning on the job like every other QBs of his background, and there are no shortcuts. Suck it up, fans, and deal with it! Andy Benoit pretty much makes that point in his game preview:
    http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/22/nfl-week-12-tv-schedule/3/

    1. i’ll say again, he’s learning on the job to the DETRIMENT of the team.

      it’s not like there’s a try hard participation trophy to be awarded to Kaepnernick while other teams make and get through the playoffs. awww shucks! but hey at least you’re learning and improving!

      is that harsh? yes but this ain’t a juice box football league.

      1. I agree it’s frustrating, but there is no alternative to having patience. Other Super Bowl favorites are also struggling — just look around in the league. Falcon’s high flying offense is grounded with both receivers being on IR. Packers are pretty much done with Rodgers gone. Giants are talent-depleted. Cowboys, oh well,… they are the Cowboys. Kap’s current climb of the learning curve will pay off in a month and a half.

    2. “…In other words, Kap is learning on the job like every other QBs of his background, and there are no shortcuts….”

      correctamundo, Mood …

      I realize, that, as fans … we are hungry for another Super Bowl
      trophy to adorn the case .. but, to get there.. our
      QB has to pay his dues .. first !

      They refer to Kaep as a 3rd year QB … but, really ..
      he’s been a real QB
      for only about a year and a half !

      Say what you will about Rex .. but, he’s been in the league
      a few more years than Colin has …
      and, if one thing was clear from the last game ..
      he knows how to baffle young and brash QBs …

      He dared the Niners to beat them with the run …

      (G-Ro shoulda hit ‘em with the pass !)

      1. I think it was ROB Ryan the Dcoordinator for the Saints?

        and they did try to pass against the Saint’s stacked box, at least initially. They just figured out that they couldn’t (Kaepnernick) so they doubled down on the tight formations and runs.

    3. “As far as his development as a quarterback, this is incredibly valuable for him to go through these types of situations, battle his way out and learn from them.”

      This is something that in the results driven league of the NFL (and instant gratification required by most fans) often gets lost. I said it the other day – every young QB needs to go through these growing pains. He’ll either be a better player and better pocket passer for it in the long run, or he’ll crash and burn. Given his overall talents and work ethic, I think it is reasonable to believe he will develop his ability to read defenses and make his progressions over time. The real question is will 49ers coaches and fans afford him that time?

      Last season probably came too easily for him, but he showed tremendous talent in a lot of aspects of his game. Now he knows what aspects of his game need work, what areas he needs to improve, or else he won’t have success. No need to lose faith yet.

      1. Scooter, I think the time issue is what makes this a bit tougher for the 49ers. Kaepernick is not a rookie QB that was thrown into action immediately his first season and is now going through a sophmore slump with several seasons remaining on his contract to develop.

        Do the 49ers gamble signing him to a long term contract while he is still developing? That’s six more games (hopefully extended in playoffs) this season to see improvement — or do they put it off and see what happens during his contract year and maybe end up losing him in FA if they can’t get a deal done? I’m sure the FO was wanting to get it done this coming off-season but his current play is creating a hard call no matter what the coaching staff says to the public.

      2. On top of what Spaceborn noted, the other problem is that they’re wasting a team talented enough to win the Superbowl with QB play that is arguably among the worst in the NFL right now.

        You only get so many opportunities… there’s no guarantee that Lattimore and Carradine can replace Gore and Justin Smith. In roughly 2 months, Vernon will be 30… Staley, Brooks, Ray McDonald will be 30 next year.

        While they have their issues, will they be able to replace Goodwin, Whitner and Rogers? Can they afford to keep Crab, Aldon and Iupati as well as pay Kaep?

  6. “Lest they see miracles, they shall not believe”. The howling won’t stop until CK lights it up. He knows it.
    The roof blows off? Can’t wait!

  7. The big problem is that Roman thinks the offensive scheme is just fine, and the players simply need to make more plays. That’s ridiculous, and it means that we are in for more of the same. I believe that a really good offensive mind would have figured out how to combat eight and nine man fronts – using slants, play action passes, outlets to the running backs, short drops, rollouts, and a variety of other types of plays that would make the offense less predictable. He finally called a couple of back shoulder throws to Boldin, which were successful, which then weren’t tried any more, and where have they been all year? I just think the man’s horrible at play calling, and Harbaugh’s ultimately responsible for not recognizing that.

    1. you really think Roman doesn’t know all that? gee…play action…i wonder if the Niners use that??? hmmm…

      I believe that a really good offensive mind would have figured out how to combat eight and nine man fronts – using slants, play action passes, outlets to the running backs, short drops, rollouts, and a variety of other types of plays that would make the offense less predictable.

      hmm…let’s see, there are 8 or 9 in the box. ends and linebackers just waiting to pin their ears back and hit Kaep if he ventures out of the pocket….so let’s just roll him out of the pocket more..hmmm…

      oh yeah..those magical 3 step drop slants and other short pass plays that we loved so much from the classic WCO. hmm…it really was that simple to just drop back and throw the short ball. nah…..Montana and Young never had to read their defenses and understand how their plays were stretching the field horizontally and know where to throw the short ball…..nah…that couldn’t be it….nope….Just call short passes and have Kaep throw short passes….It’s that simple! and again those short passes into a crowded 8-9 man box? No problem it’s the magical short pass solution.

      He finally called a couple of back shoulder throws to Boldin, which were successful, which then weren’t tried any more,

      hmm…could it be that those plays have been there all along??? You do realize that when a play is called, the progressions change based on the defense AND IT’S UP TO KAEP TO FIND THE RECEIVERS???

      I know I’m coming off as a jerk with this reply. I’m just frustrated with fans who make comments and don’t understand what they’re seeing on the football field.

      1. You forgot to turn off italics. Looked like I was arguing with myself.

        It seems to me you’re saying that an offensive coordinator is helpless in the face of a nine man front. Hey, let’s try that next time against Drew Brees. Should work.

        The reason defenses don’t usually employ eight and nine men in the box is that it makes you very vulnerable to the pass. But if the offensive coordinator and the quarterback don’t take advantage of it, it’s great strategy. Low FBIQ all around. Part of it is obviously Kaepernick, but we’ve seen Roman’s brain lock on multiple occasions in the past – remember the option toss on the goal line last year against the Rams? So we know he’s capable of stupidity. Obviously we don’t know how to parcel out the blame, exactly – what percentage goes to Harbaugh, Roman, and Kap – but it’s obvious to me that the offense is so damn predictable that the defense never has to worry about being surprised.

        After a lot of criticism of the play calling, Kap rolled out a couple of times – very successfully – and ran a couple of plays where he threw as Boldin made his cut back. These were passes Grant and some of us fans were calling for, and I wonder if the righteous anger of the fanbase was the reason that Roman put those plays in.

        Sounds like you’re pretty happy with the play calling, and Kap just needs to execute better? Correct?

      2. i’m not happy about the offense in general.(and yes i screwed up the tags on that post which made everything look screwed up).

        sometimes you have no choice but to play the hand you’re dealt.

        what bugs me (and i overreact) is that too many people simply say that it the playcalling is handcuffing Kaepernick and the rest of the offensive players.

        When in reality it is Kaepnerick and the offense that is handicapping the playcalling.

        I’m not saying Roman is completely blameless, sure he calls some screwy stuff at times. But if you closely watch the game, the game plan initially was pretty sound. they tried to pass against the 8 and 9 man fronts. they called decent run plays. it’s just that Kaep or an O-lineman would screw something up.

        I hope Roman doesn’t take the fanbase into account in his game planning. That would be scary. No Grant et al… fail to understand the game specific situations that sometimes make roll outs successful but often times don’t.

      3. I’m certainly not saying Kaepernick isn’t part of the problem. I don’t think he’s thinking fast enough, diagnosing defenses fast enough, pulling the trigger when plays are open fast enough. But the reality is that he’s going to be our quarterback the rest of this season, and he needs some help from the game planners and the play caller. It may well be that he will eventually get faster mentally. In the meantime Roman and Harbaugh need to use misdirection and short drops and what have you. What they’ve been doing isn’t working. If it isn’t working, for God’s sake don’t just stay the course and hope Kap will execute better. Try stuff. Be creative. Call one play and let Kap audible if necessary, as somebody else suggested. Cut down on the complexity. As Maiocco said, Kap may be experiencing paralysis by analysis.

      4. By the way, I’m not suggesting the we the fans – or the beat writers – have a clue. But the value of public outrage at poor performance is that it focuses the mind of the coaches, and self-preservation – fear of termination – forces them to make some changes – to get more creative and try something different. In other words, fan criticism and anger can have a positive effect.

    2. When and if we get Crabtree back and the game play has not improved ,its time to get rid of Roman. We are n0t going to win a SB with the team and the play calling as it is now.

      1. i know. i’m just kidding. but they do it so infrequently and the image of the play clock winding down is so prevalent that you forget about the few times they do hurry things up.

  8. “I think it’s a function of making a few more plays. You look at that game, we make one or two more plays, we win the game. The week before, we make one or two more plays, we win the game. We’re always striving for improvement. We’re certainly not a finished product. I think those opportunities are out there and the roof is going to blow off. It’s going to pop. It’s coming if we keep working like we’re working. It will come.”

    I love this statement and think he nailed it.

    1. I agree with the statement too but it still doesn’t explain enough. The defense was playing so well that one or two plays gets them the win. From what we have seen and expect now, there should 6-7 more plays made out there. Not 1 or 2.

    2. well, the translation is: the players just haven’t been executing. but they’re practicing really hard so we hope to see good things in the future. and of course the implication is that the plays have been correctly called or planned.

      1. There were a number of breakdowns in both the pass and running game on Sunday that resulted in unproductive plays.

        The team that executes best usually wins, and the 49ers offensive players have not executed very well the past 2 weeks.

      2. allfor….”at what point does the systematic…..proper excecution is always a coaches responsibilty. Last yr i thought there were far too many penalties that killed drives, thats the coaches responsibilty. I believe this strongly applies to o linemen but less to the QB a coach ca’nt climb in a QB’s head and right now i do’nt have any idea what is going on in CK’s head he just looks lost and he did’nt last yr he looked in charge.

      3. It’s week 11. How is this poor performance not on the players? If it was a systematic problem we don’t win 6 games. But then again we have not beaten anyone really.

      4. When the players stop listening to the coaches.

        Against New Orleans I saw a lot of the same types of missed blocks in the running game that I saw when watching the Seahawks film from week 2. The common thread between them is the use of the Bear front by the defense. One play it is Iupati, the next it’s Davis, then it’s Miller, then it’s Boone. This is something that they will need to look at and fix.

        The 49ers better runs on Sunday all came when the Saints went to more of a 4 man front.

        Throughout this season they have shown they can run it against 8 and 9 man boxes successfully when the center isn’t covered, see final TD drive against Arizona, but they struggle against those same boxes when the center is covered.

      5. “But then again we have not beaten anyone really.”

        You can make that argument for just about every team in the league.

      6. Jack, I think you misinterpreted my question. I don’t mean a coaching problem where it’s time to consider replacing the coaches due to overall ineffectiveness (the Niners do have two seasons of success and still have a winning record this season).

        By coaching problem, I mean a problem with how the coaches plan, prepare and teach the players.

        If the players aren’t prepped correctly to deal with 8-9 men 46 bear type fronts…then is it time to either find a different way to teach the players or to come up with another solution all together to the problem?

      7. AFFP,

        They better be looking at it now since they will see a lot of it in 2 weeks.

        Their plan against Seattle and NO on the ground was to attack off tackle, which makes sense because that is where the bubbles are in the Bear.

        I can think of drills all day that they can work on to fix it, but we’ll see what they do.

    3. @Jack

      I agree with you….we’re sitting like board members pretending expertise on the actions and future of one of the most brilliant offensive minds in football. YES, HE IS! That we don’t see things the same as him is no surprise to me. We “talk the talk’ that we learn from him, and then attempt to turn it around on him. If there is bitching to be done, let’s hear it for the personnel and personnel groupings (lack of a receiving corp anyone?) How about two effective QB’s competing for the job. Don’t make the coaches jobs any harder than they already are….

    4. As Lombardi, Vince, not Mike, used to say, when your best is not good enough, you have to do what is required to win!

  9. Instead of calling two plays in the huddle why don’t they call one and let Kaep audible out of it if the are going to “run into a safety blitz.” If Kaep can recognize when to kill the first play then he can recognize that he needs to audible. If they are unsure about his ability to make a good audible then limit the audibles plays he can choose from to like 5. Perfect those 5 plays and build from there. They are handicapping themselves with how many timeouts they burn and running the clock to 1s that lets the D know when the ball will be snapped. Where am I wrong guys?

      1. Thanks Wilson. This idea seems to make more sense. What if the kill play is a bad call too. Let’s cut down huddle time and give kaep an option to choose a play he is most comfortable with.

  10. Reporter: The general consensus has been that the offense has regressed this year, and Colin specifically is struggling this season. Would you say that is a fair statement?

    Harblow: Who said that? Joe in Livermore? Colin is doing a phenomenal job at quarterback. If he retired after this year he would be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Got nothing but high praise for this kid, and the job the offensive coaching staff and the players are doing overall. Very pleased, yes.

  11. Cam Newton fell off the ladder after his second year, and now in his third he is one of the best. Got to give CK at least another year.

    1. Monday Night we should be back where we were with Green Bay, Washington is falling apart internally and their secondary are not very good. Expect a big day for VD.

  12. Oh Harbs Harbs Harbs… how is going from Super Bowl to toilet Bowl ascending? Let’s keep it real now.
    TGIF Niner brothas!! Get your cold ones ready.

  13. Kaep will be all right. He’s over analyzing things to a point of paralysis and playing hesitant out there. Once he traverses the “qb” learning curve and takes his lumps, he’ll walk away from this ordeal with an added arrow to his quiver. Upon consolidating the gist of logistical-tactical strategy underneath his wing, we’ll begin to witness that decisive buoyancy that comes from trusting your eyes and a comfortability to play within the confines of the system,along with the “double edged” bonus to improv with his athleticism whenever the pocket collapses and chaos ensues..kaepernick just needs to hang in the pocked a wee bit longer and believe in the system by providing his offensive lineman & receivers with a chance. In due time we’ll catch him surveying the plains of the Serengeti and foisting on a kill..he’s on the cusp of those rapid progressions and the niners brain trust is cultivating that killer instinct by fostering it a with a method to the madness rather than an unrefined crude attack we laid witness to last year. This is a Scorpio you want leading you into battle into hostile territory. All will be well in 49ers land once again…we’re all ponys who eat rainbows and poop butterflies! I may have sipped a tad too much outta the niners thanksgiving kool aid bowl!! -faithful

    1. I’m tired of them too. Especially the run out of bounds instead of trying get three more yards and a first down against the saints. kaep is about five inches taller than the dbs. Run somebody over.l

  14. I’ll ask what the main difference in the way Kaepernick played all of last season and the way he’s playing this season.

    PERSONELL, PERSONELL, PERSONELL!

      1. Yes ah, all of that Jack. They miss a deep threat at wide receiver as well. Somebody has to stretch the field to allow VD the space underneath. We are so void of receiving threats that it’s pathetic. I said it all year, McDonald can’t catch. No speed from Gore or Miller obviously, and we don’t use LMJ. We are crippled on offense. I wonder if you think we need a wide receiver like Gordon now Jack?

      2. “I wonder if you think we need a wide receiver like Gordon now.” Nope.

        I disagree that they don’t have the space. Guys are open, the QB just needs to hit them.

      3. So you see nothing wrong wit the talent or lack there of ..of receivers from 2011-til now? So we Didnt need any game changing wideouts in 2011?2012?Now? Doesnt bother u?That we’ve havent developed a wr in all that time?Do u think our wr core is one of the best then?

      4. Yeah receiver’s like Calvin johnson?Jordy nelson?Aj green? U dont think a passing attack in the bottoms of the league couldnt benefit? Idk jack..So if u could put a percentage on wr’s getting open? What would it be 100%? 90%? 70%? I think it’s 30%..-35%..

      5. 23J – still love ya man but Kap hasn’t been stellar….Crabtree would’ve bailed him out a few times but Kap has played soft since Packer game. I hope he stops sliding so early. Roman’s conservatism has been disgusting as well.

      6. We definitely need a receiver like Gordon now. We have no spacing. There is someone open every play according to you. Yeah, he occasionally misses a guy. However your pics don’t take into account the passing lanes involved. You pics have guys in the passing lane where you claim guys are open. I’ve seen the same all-22 that you’ve seen. You’re trying too hard to bury the guy. He’s here to stay. I’m still waiting on a piece from you that’s gives him any credit for his play.

      7. Or how about this one Jordan. Check out the notes portion where I mention the great adjustment I noticed Kaepernick make in the Cardinals win.

        http://ninerchatter.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-49ers-already-have-their-number-2.html

        Your boy is scrappin big time right now. If you think there are guys in the throwing lanes negating those passes you should have just watched some of the throws from David Fales down at SJSU on the last drive of regulation, or his TD throw in OT.

      1. Kap’s on notice now. It’s not just jack’s Chatter blog. It’s in other articles in the national press. For Monday, it still comes down to the run defense. It’s a copycat league so expect to see 8 or Nine in the box. I use to play this defense on Madden. You send 8 on a blitz. t was called Engage 8.
        Then have three DBs drop back to cover a 3rd of the field. It worked against the bad QBs. Hmm. Am I saying Kap is a bad QB?

      2. DS77esev,

        You’re a joke. Stick with the Madden. That’s about the extent of your football knowledge. Kap isn’t on notice. He won’t be for another 7 years just like your hero. Looking forward to him shutting you up and then you can tell us how bad the Redskin defense is. I think I know what the problem is with you and Kap. He benched your boy!

      3. >>He won’t be for another 7 years just like your hero.

        It’ll be one more year if his play continues. Maybe less. Stinking up on a 2-14 team gives a raw QB some leeway. Stinking up on pre-season SB favorite? Not so much.

      4. @3Jordan,

        Why are you avoiding me? I thought we’re going to make a wager Seahawks vs. 49ers. It’s understandable you don’t have the balls. I thought so? My team against your team Jordan it makes it a little bit sweeter beating you, so you’ll never come back to this blog.

      5. Capeman, you’re an azz if you think I’m going to make a wager for a game that is 3 weeks away. What about the skins? Let’s bet cash.

  15. Q: You’ve had fewer than 200 yards of offense the past two games. Does that surprise you?

    ROMAN: I’d say the past few weeks have not been up to our standard or the standard of production we expect and work for.

    I take it from Romans response he is also referring to games that they won. If so I totally agree. Sometimes in wins you don’t see or you forget that you played poorly and yet won. Another words he/harbaugh recognize that the problem has been for awhile. Also they are taking into account how defenses are playing them and putting in a game plan to combat it, seems to me its either bad scheming or bad execution probably a little of both.

    1. John Madden often said that winning is a great deoderant. In other words, it often covers up some of the problems you have. Eventually, though, those problems surface.

      1. That’s not what he meant by that quote. It refers to teams that are losing or on losing streaks. Everyone will nit pick and be critical and basically tell you that you stink. But when you win suddenly you seem to no longer stink, e.g. Winning is a great deodorant.

  16. 49ers and Tramaine Brock have agreed to a 4 year $16 million extension that includes $7 million guaranteed. Per ESPN’s Bill Williamson.

      1. My guess is the CB group will consist of Rogers, Brock, Culliver, Wright, #40 (his name escapes me at the moment), and a draft pick.

      2. They won’t keep Rogers at his current salary as well as his age plays a factor too. They will resign Brown, Brock moves to the slot and Culliver plays outside and they draft another cover corner. Reid and Whitner man the safety spots.

      3. Brown was close to signing prior to this move. Rogers will be asked to take a pay cut. Last time they asked he said no. Culliver in tandem with his rehab should be working solely on turning and locating the football and attacking it at it’s highest point. If he cannot do that, he will be a liability. Wright is the wild card. He’ll get another opportunity against the Redskins to show what he can do. Brock/Brown/Culliver/Wright and an early draft pick is what I’m thinking….

      4. “The 4-yr, $16M deal Tramaine Brock landed was essentially what the 49ers were offering Tarell Brown, who now seems destined for free agency.” ~ Matt Barrows

    1. Brock signing was key, as he’s our fastest DB and a versatile guy; played safety in college. I’m also hoping we can get Morris to sign on the cheap.

      As to who else we keep… the real question is what will guys like Grimes and Talib command in free agency? This year was a buyer’s market. Next year is shaping up that way as well.

    2. The 49ers 2014 CB situation is shaping up to be an interesting one. Currently the team is carrying 7 CB’s if you include the one on the p.s. according to their own roster;
      Carlos Rogers/Tarell Brown/Eric Wright/Darryl Morris/Tremaine Brock/Chris Culliver(Dax Swanson on p.s.) Of these 6 active CB’s only Rogers, Brock and Culliver are signed past this season. So if nothing changes we head into the 2014 free agency/draft with Rogers, Culliver and Brock.

      Rogers has a nearly 8.1M cap hit next season, they don’t have Brock’s new contract broken down yet but with bonuses it looks to be more then 5M a year and Culliver is slated to earn 800k.

      Rogers is 32 years old and although playing at a high level still my guess is that his best days are behind him. The team I’m certain would rather put money into a younger developing player at this point. Unless Rogers is willing to pretty much cut his salary in half or even more I think he’s gone.

      If by the good graces we are still able to lock down Brown for a deal close to Brocks we would essentially have our two starters next season and going forward for close to the single salary we would have been paying Rogers alone. If we don’t sign Brown then I expect we’ll replace him with a FA or an early draft pick or possibly both. If Brown continues to play well I think he’ll exceed the price that team has deemed he’s worth.

      Without knowing anything about Dax Swanson or Darryl Morris I wont bother to speculate to much at this point. Neither is scheduled past this season and at this point neither offer anything to gleam for future consideration.

      For our active 2014 CB’s I see two early scenarios;

      1)Brock – Brown – Draft Pick – Culliver – Wright (Morris/Swanson?)

      2)Brock – Draft – Free Agent – Culliver – Wright (Morris/Swanson?)

    3. Jack

      ‘Glad to hear it! He’s earned it and with Cullinan coming back next season, we’ll have two ball-hawking corners to work with Reid and ‘Hitner”Brown should be our 2-3 CB

    1. man, feel bad for the kid. I know it didn’t work out for him with the 49ers but all I hear was that he’s a hard-worker and a good locker room guy.

  17. Anybody going to the rams game? If you do. Watch specifically the receivers. An tell me they’re not getting ignored when open. Like Alex smith use to do. Can’t blame this on receivers. Ck will not pull the trigger. I was upset with the play calling in the beginning of the year when they abandoned the run. But that excuse is done. Plain and simple. It’s mainly on the QB and his lack of pocket experience. They are determined to make him a pocket passer. For the future of the team. (Like the hoards of draft picks)
    Focus on the receivers next game.

  18. Marcus Cannon blatantly and flagrantly leg whips a defensive player and gets the same fine as Brooks’ incidental contact foul. That’s fair.

  19. Say hey, Kaep:
    six regular season games remaining.
    Many NFL QBs are already out with various injuries.
    Have you selected a treating orthopedic surgeon….
    just in case….? Will using crutches crimp your style?
    or can you work those into your hip hop image, huh?

    1. Oregon,
      hitch your trailer to this guy and leave with him. Take a stance like that and side with a troll just shows your lack of colors. Specifically red and gold….

      1. A reminder to bay and all other would be censors – defending a poster’s permission to post (not “right to post” as this is a privately run board) does not mean you are in agreement with his loopy posts.

        I know this concept is a little nuanced, but try to open your mind for a change.

    2. Oh look. Its Carmen San Diego back on here to whine that Harbaugh took his lunch money. Tell us again how well spoken RG3 is when he’s throwing his team-mates under the bus.

  20. It’s too bad no writer asked Roman or Harbaugh this week if Sunday is the last time we will ever see Kaep or one of his backs or receivers run out of bounds to kill the clock instead of staying inbound to run the clock late in a game or first half. Did they drill him on this? Or will it happen again? Joe, Steve and Jeff QB’d here for a combined 20 seasons and it never happened twice…

  21. Best remark…..he’s ascending by learning the game. Shotgun qbs always have that problem. Remember Alex, forget reading the defense, he had trouble fumbling the ball dropping back from center. That being said there us still hope foe kap but the blowing smoke up our skirts is growing really old foe long time 49 er fans, as is whinnying about refs and making excuses. That bs works in politics not the scoreboard. Fact, team on pass offense ( dead last) third down and red zone= bad! can’t get plays off in time! louts wide receivers outside of boldin! at and defense not as good as2 years ago….. That’s why we haven’t beaten a team with a winning record though we have a ton of pro bowlers. Learning the game means watching Wilson ( though I hate Seattle) he isn’t uber talented like kap, he runs for first downs not tds, or to allow his wrs to get open, he knows where every receiver is on the field. You can whine all about he sometimes doesn’t look great but before he came they were nobody’s, and now they keep winning , to teams we lose to. It’s time for the Harbaugh staff to make so e changes or do something. The definition of insanity is doing the same things expecting a different result. The nightmare we have IMO is not that kap is overrated ( heck he can become a make model or whatever and we can get another qb…we only have 14 picks) it’s that Harbaugh et al is overrated. That would be really really bad. Harbaugh may not have the marbles like his brother but I’m quite certain York doesn’t have the marbles his uncle did.

  22. Here’s a question for Harbaugh. Knowing now that Jenkins, Lockette and Williams were not up to par, why at some point was Moss not approached to rejoin the team? He knew the offense and was an upgrade over the other receivers not named Boldin in camp. His ability to get deep would have benefited all of the other weapons on the team.

    1. Again with the deep passing. Moron, when will you learn that Harbaugh and Co. don’t go deep? They never have and it looks like they never will.
      Stop hoping and projecting your fantasy football ideas on us. Learn the 49er/Harbaugh way and deal with it already. And if you still don’t like it, go cheer for a pass first team.

  23. ROMAN says: Kap is understanding the game, understanding of his job – again, these things aren’t reflected this week as we stand here right now. As far as his development as a quarterback, this is incredibly valuable for him to go through these types of situations, battle his way out and learn from them.

    Sure Kap is learning to understand his job that’s why the 49ers offense “stinks.” His development as a Qb is below average, everyone keep saying he has all the tools and can throw 50 yards or longer and he has lightning speed.

    They forgot to mention that his lack of intellectual ability on the field makes him a below average Qb. He should’ve the experience by now and instinct and the awareness playing against good quality teams with a good defense.

    Love Roman comments, I’m not surprise he hasn’t had any offers for a Head Coaching job. He’s a piece work also. Without Fangio defensive skills the 49ers team aren’t that good. Roman is fortunate the 49ers Defense is keeping the 49er team afloat.

      1. Prime,
        To be honest with you I’m a Seahawks fan. Once I was a proud 49ers fan, the highlight of being a 9er fan started when Joe came to the 49ers in the early 80’s, the 49ers had a great owner Eddie D. After Eddie D and S. Young left the 49ers the team fell apart when the York’s took over the team, they hired dysfunctional Head coaches and a GM that’s not capable putting together a winning team. I decided not to root for 49ers any longer. Because for one thing Eddie D sister and husband Dr. York have no idea how to run an NFL football team.

      2. Well Cape then I have a problem with that. It’s one thing for 49er fans to bash one another but when you cheer for another team, a divisional rival then sorry dude, you are the enemy.
        I have my share of issues with 23 clown but at the end of the day we value the same team. You do not so all you are is a troll on here. No time or respect for that, be gone!

      3. Cape,
        23 Jordan is the biggest idiot on this blog, but he is a Niner fan, so he’s a brother.
        Having said that, this is just sports. Seattle is just a flash in the pan. Niners are a legendary franchise.

      4. How do you become a Seahawk fan, that once was a 49er fan? That is like a SF Giant fan become a Dodger fan. Talking about a front runner. You decided to become a Seahawk fan because you don’t like ownership, that is not a fan at all.

      5. Fan 77,

        Correction 23 is not the biggest idiot on the blog, Prime Slime is the biggest idiot on the blog, ask him he will admit it. He has been kicked off this blog more times, that his boy toy rolls to the right and throws the ball out of bounds.

      6. Cape,
        Get the f#%€ out of here, you are a Seahawks fan without a life, obviously. That would explain the stupid posts that you keep making. It’s basically the same thing from you, over and over again.. You are a broken record that doesn’t belong here.
        Why do you post here? Just to be annoying? Get a life, stop repeating the same crap and go route for your Seahawks. You’ll fall off that bandwagon eventually as well. Nobody cares about front runners that jumped ship the minute the team hit a rough patch. After a rough learning curve, the Yorks have built the 49ers into a model franchise that should be competitive for years to come. They hired Baalke and Harbaugh and got a new stadium built.
        You are basically stalking your ex-girlfriend at this point, get a life. “To be honest with you I’m a Seahawks fan.” Lol. No, you’re a loser. You have nothing better to do than rip the team you stopped supporting years ago. Clap……clap….clap.

      7. LOL at Big P,

        Please put some more conviction to it. The Seahawks would be the last team I would ever root for, if the Niners don’t make, I don’t care who wins the Super Bowl, but not the Seahawks or the Brady Bunch for that matter.

      8. Guys wait a minute, why are all of you guys judging someone who has all the right like we all do to change team if he wants too? If Cape decides to root for another team, it’s his decision and he has reason too? The problem with society today there’s to many people like yourselves that are hypocrites.

      9. BIG P,

        I could not agree more, we gave him 5 Super Bowls and we had a bad spell for several years with John York making dumb decisions , Erickson and Mike and Mike but we are back. Yea things are not perfect but I won’t leave MY team.

      10. “Guys wait a minute, why are all of you guys judging someone who has all the right like we all do to change team if he wants too? If Cape decides to root for another team, it’s his decision and he has reason too? The problem with society today there’s to many people like yourselves that are hypocrites.”

        Well, with a handle like 49erlight, your credibility is untarnished. You can tell it’s Capeman by his inability to spell despite despite having a spell check.

      11. Big P says: That would explain the stupid posts that you keep making. It’s basically the same thing from you, over and over again.. You are a broken record that doesn’t belong here.

        You’re one comedian Big Pee; for one thing, you’re still an A–Hole. Keep it up you might even win an award for the most ignorant person on this blog for all your idiotic comments.

        Talking about getting a life Big-P you’re a “Pathetic stupid individual” all you do is post non-sense on this blog. You’re so intelligent you’re saying I’m stalking my ex-girl friend, I wonder if you have stalked your ex-girl friend while you were already married. You’re a joke Big P. you’re the one that should get a life.

      12. Capeman,
        Lmfao! I didn’t really mean you were stalking your ex-girlfriend, it was an analogy for your posting negative comments on this blog about the team you stopped supporting years ago. Lmao, your response was absolutely precious and indicative of your intelligence. I actually feel bad for you now.

      13. Cape I mean “enemy” in the sense of division rivals, sports. Personally I hate Seattle only because they are our biggest obstacle getting back to the SB.

        I agree with you on some of your opinions regarding CK. My problem is you are a Seahawks fans on a 49ers blog. It’s an unfair playing field. We don’t discuss your teams misgivings so how easy is it for you? I could go on a Seahawks blog and trash them all day on how they never have won anything, how cool would that be?

      14. Big Pee Wee,
        You really don’t get it right? I know what you meant on your previous comments about stalking the 49ers. The reason I’d mention you were stalking your girl friend was just a sarcastic remark. Are you really that stupid? It’s time to take your medication Big Pee Wee.

      15. Capeman,

        This is a open blog wussy. Did I hurt your feeling Capey? What a traitor you have become, you must have no life. If the Rams or the Cardinals win the Super Bowl, will you be now the new biatch rooting for them big guy. Go away a little girl.

      16. Neal,
        I don’t really want to waste my precious times explaining to fools like you. Go watch films of the 49ers offense maybe you’ll be able to tell everyone how you can fix Kap’s problem.

      17. Capeman,
        I don’t think you did understand it, I think you really are just plain dumb. Your comments strongly support my theory. Go to the Seahawks website and support your team, you are not wanted here. Seahawks fan (for now) on a 49er blog = no life. That is the truth.

      18. I actually like fans of other teams coming on this blog and giving a different perspective.
        That’s so long as they’re not clownish windbags, like Alex Smith 9-1 guy…

      19. Capeman

        Go watch films of Pete Carroll and Sherman and maybe you’ll be able to tell everyone what abunch of idiots they are.

        I am not going to pretend that I have all of the answers about Kaep, but I do know that I am a 49er fan for life, not like you traitor.

      20. A in Canada,

        It is one thing to be a life long Seahawks fan, but Capeman is a traitor fair weather fan. He brings nothing to this blog because he flip flops on both teams.

      21. Big Pee Wee,
        I do understand how stupid you and your girl friend Nealy are. You guys are both Dumb and Dumber, you clowns are truly unique, there’s only two of your kind in this world.

        Big Pee Wee, no wonder everything you spout out on this blog stinks, because you stare down the toilet bowl too much to look for your “Brains.”

        By the way Neal who’s the idiot, Carroll? Before spitting out your garbage, take a quick look who’s going to win the NFC west and who might not even make the playoffs. Now, who’s on the top and who’s on the bottom looking up?

      22. Cape man we will beat Seattle at the Stick. No doubt. Just make sure Russell “Pee Wee” Wilson comes ready to play a healthy defense and a angry defense. It will start with pounding M.Lynch. Then our front four will get up in little man Wilson.

        As for CK. That will sort itself out. It can’t get worse so we got 6 games to get it right. Monday night, then the Rams, and then we will see you for lunch on the 8th of December in San Fran! An NFC West show down! Bring it brother!

        http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bL7atl1em2o

      23. Capeman,
        Speaking of “brains”, why do you keep using quotation marks for non-quotes in your posts? Do you not know how to use quotation marks? Do you not know what they’re for? Smh.

      24. Prime,
        But first let the Seahawks show you guys how to beat a good Saints team in Seattle next week. Then you’ll get your chance with Hawks at the stick. Regardless, what happen in San Francisco in December 08, the 49ers are going back to face the Hawks in Seattle, if they do get in the playoffs?

        BTW, better watch out for the Cardinals at AZ. They might be the team that might keep the 49ers advancing to the playoffs.

        The Seahawks will have a chance to lock the NFC west title and home field advantage through out the NFCC Playoffs after they beat D. Brees and the Saints next week.

      25. Cape have fun with NO. That was a game the officials won but no crying here.
        There would be nothing better than a NFC Championship game in the great Northwest. We are due to win there but if on the 8th we win, lose or draw, I’ll gladly take a trip to Seattle to play you lucky pricks . Then it will be off to NY for another shot at a 6th franchise tittle!
        What’s SEA working on?

      26. Capeman, For someone who claims he has precious time, you certainly make alot of blowhole responses,talking about Blowholes,flipper flipper faster then lightning, will change teams, because he is flipper, get lost traitor.

      27. Prime,
        I like your enthusiasm? First, you need to worry getting in the Playoffs and beating the other teams for the last spot for the wild card. If the 49ers make it to the playoffs, there’s a chance they might have to go back to N.O to face D. Brees and the Saints or you might have to go to Carolina and face the Panthers once again in the playoffs, if the 49ers get lucky beating the two teams. By the time, the 49ers play the Seahawks in Seattle the 49ers team will be tired and beat up and it will be another 49ers humiliating defeat in the hands of the Hawks in Seattle.

      28. I don’t think going to DET, CHI, DAL, PHI, NO, or CAR would be that hard. We can beat any of those teams. We all the sudden are not proven. We play well on the road.
        You might get Homer field advantage but that doesn’t guarantee jack, ask ATL last year.
        Right now the Hawks look good. Still lots of football left. Momentum needed to roll in playoffs starts in December.

  24. Capeman
    I don’t know why a Fishchucker Fan feels the need to hang at a 9ers site, but make no mistake: Brees & Payton are coming for you. This past win was a tune-up for the Fishchuckers. And y’all tough at home, no doubt, but buckle up; they’re coming. They are your main competition in the Conference. Sadly, I think we’re also-rans. But if we make the Big Dance….who knows? TBD

  25. Matt Mcgloin looks like the real deal. I can see the Cohn’s who love to compare, will be doing a comparison , who is better, it is in their genes.

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