Training camp report: Huge day for Lockette and the L-Train

SANTA CLARA – Here is what stood out to me at Tuesday evening’s light, padless practice in which the first-team offense and first-team defense only faced the scout teams.


1. Ricardo Lockette – He had an outstanding practice. He lined up primarily at split end with the scout-team offense, meaning he faced Tarell Brown a lot. Lockette beat Brown for two touchdowns – one was a 20-yard catch on a corner route, and the other was a 50-yard catch on a deep pass. Brown ran stride-for-stride with Lockette, but at the last second Lockette jumped up and caught the ball over the 5-foot-10 cornerback. This was the best catch of training camp. Lockette caught 7 passes total for 120 yards.

2. Lowell Rose – The L-Train came out of nowhere to dominate wide receivers today. For most of camp he had been using off coverage, and wide receivers were roasting him. Today, he primarily lined up right in the receivers’ face, even jamming them some of the time. This style worked well for Rose. He had A.J. Jenkins’ number. Jenkins couldn’t shake him. Rose batted away two passes intended for Jenkins, and almost batted away a third. Rose jumped the short hitch route and got a hand on the pass, but Jenkins snatched it away. Toward the end of pass during a one-minute drill, Rose picked off a Scott Tolzien pass intended for Austin Collie on a deep corner route. Rose had the best practice of all of the cornerbacks.

3. A.J. Jenkins – The 49ers keep feeding him the ball. Today, he caught six passes for 60 yards. He faced Marcus Cooper, Lowell Rose, Daryl Morris and Perrish Cox. Jenkins did not run any go routes. He did drop two passes – one was a back-shoulder fade, and the other was a short out route.

4. Tramaine Brock – He batted away back-to-back passes – one intended for Jacobs on a slant, and then one intended for Lockette on a back-corner end-zone fade.

5. Austin Collie – He played with the scout offense and caught four passes for 65 yards, including a 35-yard catch over Michael Thomas in a half-speed drill. Collie did drop an easy pass on a short slant route.

6. Justin Smith – He returned to practice despite having his right middle finger heavily taped.

7. Jonathan Goodwin – He returned to practice for the first time in a week. He wore a non-contact blue jersey.


1. Nnamdi Asomugha – He knocked away one pass intended for Ricardo Lockette on a dig route early in practice, but later on, Asomugha gave up back-to-back completions – one to Chuck Jacobs on a dig route, and one to Kassim Osgood on a dig route.

2. Daryl Morris – He gave up three catches today and knocked away none. I have not seen Morris knock away a pass during training camp.

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  1. Thanks for the update! When you say that Rose was playing ‘off coverage’ do you mean that he was giving receivers a big cushion, or was he playing zone? Is Rose better suited to playing man coverage in your opinion?

  2. I’m keeping two fingers crossed that Lockette continues to have days like this. I’d like him to win the starting SE job. Ideally I’d like our three starters to be Boldin, Lockette and Patton.(Until MC is ready to play of course)

    1. “Brown ran stride-for-stride with Lockette, but at the last second Lockette jumped up and caught the ball over the 5-10 cornerback.”

      and you guys wonder why I hate short CB’s and WR’s.

      1. Every corner is going to give up some completions. Putting too much emphasis on height will get you in trouble. I’d rather have a shorter corner who can stay stride for stride with anybody and requires a perfect pass to beat him over a taller corner who consistently can’t cover his opponent. There aren’t many taller corners who can cover; they’re ideal but rare.

      2. Don’t forget K-Dub is short, but his first eye-popping catch came against Dallas when he outjumped his defender (who was taller) and snatched the ball from over his head for the TD. Height only matters until dealing with great athletes that know how to use their abilities.

  3. If Lockette all of a sudden gets the keys, he could unlock an offensive juggernaut….

    And that is the reason why the 49ers will probably not settle up with Mr. Brown, and his services will no longer be required next year. He has difficulty with taller receivers…

    1. “If Lockette all of a sudden gets the keys, he could unlock an offensive juggernaut….”

      * shiver *

      Not sure I buy your conclusion about TBrown, but I liked what you wrote about Lockette. Personally I think Brown can play, in fact he’s better than a lot of taller types. I would love to see him signed to a new deal and get the missing $2 million as well.

      1. Absolutely, I agree about Brown’s abilities. While the 49er safetys were getting run past by the Ravens’ big speed receiver in SB, Brown was the man I recall running deeper than him and coming back to break up the pass. It did take some time, and quite a few Raven points, however for 9ers to make this adjustment.

    1. Played at UCLA intially. Transferred to Tulsa. Good size and speed combo. Natural in press as Grant has alluded to. Raw but has plenty of potentialand just seems to be around the ball alot. Out of all of the young CBs we brought in, I think he has the most promise, along with Cooper who’s a close second. Morris is just all speed at this point. I question whether if he plays with enough physicality to make it in the league.

    2. This sounds promising! Yes, why have we heard nothing ’til now and suddenly he has pet name!?? Quite a shift.

  4. Thanks Grant.
    Is Patton still following the same routine of not catching passes thrown his way?

    Hopefully preseason (games) will squeeze out our #2 WR. I still feel that it will be WR by committee for the first 3-5 games of the season until someone takes the reins.
    QP, may still make some noise when he’s given the clearance to catch. But for now, I look for AJ to start these games but share time with the other WR committee members.

      1. I don’t see how the final starting receives won’t be Boldin, Kyle Williams and A.J. Jenkins. But, I can see Hall and Collie getting some serious playing time, in addition to Moore.

      2. I don’t know if I remember a situation where a receiver was running routes but not catching. It’s probably happened before, more focus on every detail in practices now. Anyway, seems like a decent learning technique

  5. Thanks Grant. Great report.
    Just wanted to say i appreciate what you do. You have your reports out before anyone else and you make a good effort to answer posts.

    On that note how did Kaep look today?

    1. Thanks, Leo.

      Kaepernick was almost perfect. He completed 13-of-17 passes despite three drops. Keep in mind, he faced the scout defense.

  6. “He faced Marcus Cooper, Lowell Rose, Daryl Morris and Perrish Cox.”

    In other words, Jenkins is still tearing up the NFL equivalent of Northwestern.

    1. C’mon man, it’s still progress. Why doesn’t everyone just hold their load on AJ til we see him in game action?

      1. Harbaugh starts rookies when the vet is a Dahl. More than a few players come to mind. I’ll let you figure it out for better retention rather than tell you.

      2. The only rookie to start a game in Harbaugh’s first 2 years has been Bruce Miller, and even he did not start week 1 against the Seahawks in 2011. Moran Norris was the starting FB that day.

      3. Jack

        Good point about Bruce Miller, but isn’t there something to be said for the fact that the Niners don’t have a starting-caliber FS on the roster besides Reid. Yes, it’s true that Dahl started last season, but he is not a starting-caliber guy, hence his release. I suppose the only rookies the Niners have had who, in retrospect, should have started from Day One, were Kaepernick and Aldon Smith (though there are some muppets on here who will surely argue that point).

      4. CB

        You don’t think Aldon should have started as a rookie, the all-time leader in sacks in his first 2 years? You don’t think Kaep should have started as a rookie, the best 10 game start to a career in the history of the league?

        Not sure what you mean by “groupie,” but of you mean Niners fan and fan of the Niners best offensive and defensive players, respectively, then yes, sure.

      5. There is no indication that either was ready to start in his rookie year. I believe Smith was so successful his rookie year precisely because the 49ers coaches limited him to pass rush situations. He was able to focus on pass-rushing and wasn’t overwhelmed with having to also learn pass coverage responsibilities/techniques or detailed run defense responsibilities.

        I also believe that Kaepernick was so good in his first 10 games precisely because he had a season and a half to watch and learn. There is zero indication he was ready to play his rookie year, much less start.

        If you don’t see the groupie like nature of many of your comments, you need to work on your self-awareness.

      6. CB

        You’re not over your personal attacks, I see. While your points may have merit, they are impoverished by your hateful nature. Time to grow up.

      7. You’re not over your personal attacks, I see.

        You can dish it out, but you sure can’t take it, can you?

        E says:
        August 7, 2013 at 11:01 am

        (though there are some muppets on here who will surely argue that point).

      8. CB

        What does that have to do with you? How is that in any way personal? Can you explain that? If you want to throw yourself in with the muppets, that’s your deal.

      9. Classic Jack Hammer! Disputes every single thing anyone ever posted on this blog. Ok, Goldson finally started at the end of Sings reign, he shoulda started 2-3 years earlier. Aldon didnt start a game, but played the majority of the snaps (lol). And spencer and Norris ONLY lost there jobs due to injury, talent had nothing to due with it, sure.
        The fact is this: good coaches know that young guys/rookies have a lower floor ( the ability to be worse) than lame duck veterans. But they also have a higher ceiling in most cases ( the ability to be better). If a veteran and a rookie are close, good coaches know that going with the rookie will allow said team to be better longer. You go with the younger guy. Deal with the hiccups. Develop the youngsters now, and watch them mature into viable starters. Now you have rising stars locked into their rookie contracts, making peanuts for the next few years. Wait….thats exactly what we been doing!!!!!!! Then its easier to identify core players and extend their deals before they ever reach free-agency! Wait….we been doing that too!!

        Bottom line: Ried will start! He might not start week 1, but hell be starting by week 2 or so and will take 90% or more of the snaps at FS this season .

      10. E:

        Don’t be deliberately obtuse. Dismissing those who might disagree with you as mere muppets was a personal attack.

        Also, don’t be a hypocrite. The guy who dismisses those who might disagree with him as “muppets” has no business complaining when someone responds by calling him a “groupie.”

      11. Yeah, Jack, how dare you correct other commenters when they make factually incorrect statements to support their argument against your position?!?

        The nerve of some people.

      12. jshaw,

        I don’t disagree with you that Reid will start at some point this season. Never said otherwise.

        In case you missed it, which it seems as though you might have, what I said was that Dahl will open the season as the starter at safety replacing Goldson, but as the season goes on Reid might eventually take over.

      13. CB

        I didn’t call you a muppet. You identified with that group. Again, your choice.

        Anyway, your argument was on point, but I think when we all look back on the careers of Aldon and Kaep, most will marvel at the fact that they weren’t given the starting keys from Day One. You just don’t keep that kind of talent off the field. RGIII/Wilson/Luck/Manning/LT/JR/AP, etc…

        I mean, can you seriously look back to the beginnings of Joe Montana’s career and argue that he and the Niners were better off with Steve DeBerg starting in 1979? If you want to stake your name to that argument, be my guest.

      14. If you look at Harbaughs methods in his time so far in SF, there is credence to Jacks opinion that Dahl will start. The only caveat to that is Dahl hasn’t looked very good according to most of the reports I’ve read, so he may play himself out of the spot. The interesting thing is Fangio seems to like Spillman and Robinson as options too.

      15. “Iupati and Davis both started as rookies…”

        They did Razor, but that was under Singletary. Show me a Rookie other than Miller who has started since Harbaugh took over. Please show me the other players that come to mind that you have.

      16. “I mean, can you seriously look back to the beginnings of Joe Montana’s career and argue that he and the Niners were better off with Steve DeBerg starting in 1979?”

        The results kind of speak for themselves don’t they?

      17. Jack – I have a 1982 book written abou t the 49ers first S.B. championship by Lou Sahadi.
        Bill Walsh said it would’ve been disastrous if Montana had to shoulder the load his rookie season in 1979, due to the new system he was implementing and having inferior personnel at the time. By increasing Montana’s playing time in 1980, he gained the necessary experience for a full
        season behind center.
        Bill Walsh’s quote in book about Montana – ” it wasn’t for me to go public with my thoughts. I was preparing Joe to be our starting quarterback, so I put him in certain situations or against certain teams to give him a taste of success. It was a three year project.”

      18. Crabs & Jack
        Do you guys recall a game at Shea where Walsh used A young and not yet starting Montana to chump the Jets? All week before the game much in the press about how DeBerg had laryngitis. So they mounted a little speaker booster in his face ask.
        In the game DeBerg gets into the red zone but calls time and trots off pointing at his helmet and shaking his head. The noise from LaGuardia Airport jets was defeating, so it made a difference. So Walsh trots in Montana as replacement. First play Montana takes a boot leg left for a score because he’s twice as fast as any QB the defense has ever seen.
        Walsh put that play into the GamePlan on Tuesday! The time out and mime stuff and everything.

      19. You’re grasping at straws Razor. Trenton Robinson never started a game last season.

        He acutally ended up being replaced on the special teams units after the first few weeks as well.

      20. Brotha,

        I was only 5 at the time, but have heard the stories and seen the pictures. That setup on DeBerg’s shoulder pads was sweet!

      21. Damn, Jack, that makes me feel old; I was already married at that time. If you see me, you’d better help me across the crosswalk! Hahaha

      22. Bro Tuna – I was in 9th grade at the time but I remember that play. Walsh was a true football genius. Did you know Walsh was a leading candidate for L.A. Rams head coaching job in 1978? Thank God he didn’t get it! Rams chose George Allen who didn’t last long.

      23. Crab15
        Not too long ago someone on this blog added details to Walsh’s history by reminding how it was revealed that Paul Brown, Walsh’s employer in Cinci, had put out a Blackball Campaign against Walsh. If I remember correctly, Walsh was a leading candidate in LA until Brown made an assassin phone call.
        How ironic and ‘karmic’ that Walsh’s Dynasty beat Cinci TWICE in the SB.

      24. E:

        Denial is not just a river in Egypt. You started the name-calling, so you don’t get to whine about someone returning the favor.

        It’s a logical fallacy to argue that because Kaepernick was brilliant in his first 10 games as a starter in his second year, he would have been brilliant if he had started as a rookie. The suggestion that Joe Montana’s superior play as a first time starter in his third year proves that he would have played at the same level if he had been started as a rookie is similarly flawed.

        I think you also have a poor understanding of what Bill Walsh did to develop Joe Montana into the QB he became.

        Finally, if you want to stake your name to the claim that you know better how to develop NFL QBs than Bill Walsh and Jim Harbaugh, be my guest.

      25. Razor,

        Robinson was inactive for 13 games. He was not a starter in any context you want to put it in. He may be a nice surprise this season though if he continues to look good in TC.

      26. Tuna – That is way ironic (Walsh beating Cincy twice in S.B.) I wasn’t aware of that story.
        BTW, I never made it up North in July or I would’ve told you bro. I thought Giants would be in a pennant race but they faded man. I cancelled trip when Giants couldn’t score a frickin run for a about a week and fell to last place. Some day I’ll reschedule another trip and hit Petaluma for some fresh Lagunitas IPA’s and maybe some Husch Pinot on the porch. :)

      27. CB

        Personal attacks are, by logical deduction, personal. A general statement about unidentifiable masses is not personal. You want to identify yourself as a muppet (you were the ONLY person to do so), that’s your choice. I didn’t put that on you.

        Walsh = Harbaugh
        Montana = Kaepernick
        Smith = DeBerg

        Do I question the logic of the first two keeping the second two off the field in favor of the third two? You’re damn right!!!

        You don’t keep talent off the field … even more so today than 30 years ago.

      28. >>You don’t think Kaep should have started as a rookie.

        Think back to training camp #1. Kaep looked hoooorendous in each of his preseason appearances. He’s benefited from his time with the QB whisperer.

      29. Rib

        Sure he has. And he would have benefitted just the same as a starter from Day One. Kaep is a game performer, not a practice performer. And given 2 full seasons to build in-game chemistry with his guys, I say the Niners win last year’s Superbowl.

      30. Horrendous not only in the preseason games but from training camp reports he could not complete a pass under 7 yards.
        Nothing beats watching and learning for a year and practicing both the mental and physical reps needed for when the bullets are live. Aaron Rodger is not half the QB he is today without watching Favre for 4 years.

      31. >>And given 2 full seasons to build in-game chemistry with his guys, I say the Niners win last year’s Superbowl.

        Hypotheticals are useless.

        The unvarnished truth is that Kaep was raw, Harbaugh saw he wasn’t ready. Just as, a generation ago, Walsh was that Montana wasn’t ready.

      32. Tarzan likes the fantasy world where paying attention to reality is too confusing.
        What has JH preached since taking over the head coaching job? Competition between the players will determine who plays. CK was not ready. He had all the physical tools but playing the most difficult position in all of sports requires more brains than brawn. A year watching can develop that. 2 years enhances it, and 3 makes you more than ready.

      33. Speaking of cred Tarzan, cement yours here and now and prove you were a pro scout? I mean what do you have to lose while gaining king of the blog status?

        Who could be more right than a real NFL scout, bring it son, don’t sing it!

      34. I suppose the only rookies the Niners have had who, in retrospect, should have started from Day One, were Kaepernick and Aldon Smith (though there are some muppets on here who will surely argue that point).

        So Jim Harbaugh, Greg Roman and Vic Fangio are muppets?

      35. C’mon Tarzan, give us your scoutong report on how you evaluated, formulated, and dissected the talent in becoming a pro NFL scout?

    2. Hey, don’t knock Northwestern. The two years I was there for grad school we beat Michigan and went to the Rose Bowl.

      1. Jack, it might be true that Harbaugh is hesitant to start rookies right away week 1 first snap etc, but one thing is for sure, he has a knack towards giving young guys a “fair shot”. Hear me out. Under Nolan /Sing we rarely started young guys. They trended towards the ” aging, trusted vet”. Bowman sat for the older Spikes(mistake).
        Micheal Lewis was horrible, but never lost his job to the younger guys. Shawnte Spencer started under the Mikes, then went to 4th string under Harbaugh , with Cully and T.Brown ahead of em. The untested Boone got his shot. Miller won that job FB job right away. Aldon saw a ton of snaps as a rookie. With 4-5 starts to his name, CK7 was given the keys to the franchise. One of the many differences between the new and old regime, the mikes were afraid to roll the dice with young/unproven players. Harbaugh and his staff are always looking to improve, and the easiest way is an in -house upgrade with younger cheaper talent. Dashon Goldson is another example, couldn get on the field under Sing…All-Pro under Harbaugh. I could go on and on. From 2010 to 2011, we had like 7 new defensive starters, and every single one was an upgrade.

      2. jshaw,

        There is a difference between “giving young guys a shot” and starting rookies. As for the changes…

        Miller only took over as the starting FB due to an injury to Norris.

        Spencer was injured, which allowed Brown and Culliver to supplant him.

        Harbaugh spent a whole year going with the combination of Snyder and Rachal before giving Boone a shot in year 2.

        Michael Lewis did lose his job to a younger guy, Taylor Mays, and he left the team as a result.

        Aldon Smith did see a ton of snaps as a rookie, but he never started a game.

        Goldson was a starter under Singletary.

        There was turnover on the defense between 2010 and 2011, and not one of those new starters was a rookie.

      3. good call razor. I think Nolan had a harder time starting young guys. Sing was clinging to his job, Iupati and Davis both early 1st round picks started right away ’cause our line was THAT BAD. Sing had no choice, 2010 was a make or break year for him. Also why Goldosn and Mays got a crack at starting.

    3. Nah, E questions the QB development process of one legendary coach and that of another in the making.

      If he ever was a scout it’s plain to see why he’s a *former* one and now just a schlub nobody blog-rat.

      1. Rib

        Top o the morning to you, too! Can you quit the name-calling and be civil? I left the NFL scouting business because I was recruited to McKinsey, where I made enough to retire in 4 years, and now spend my time as I please.

        In fact, at the moment, I’ve just stepped out of the Pacific and onto the sands of Kaanapali Beach. Life is great! Sorry yours isn’t so great.

        Anyway, I’m not really questioning the decisions of Walsh and Harbaugh that were made at the time, but with hindsight, it’s hard to argue for DeBerg and Smith over Montana and Kaepernick. If you want to be one of those guys who claims that performance is dependent on more than just talent, I’ll go there with you, but some talents are just transcendent, including those of Montana, Kaep, and Aldon Smith.

        That’s all, Rib. Don’t forget to paste a smile over that permafrown you wear … you might actually feel happier after a day of pretending.

      2. >>Top o the morning to you, too! Can you quit the name-calling and be civil?

        Apparently that wouldn’t enhance my “cred” among the other insulters such as yourself.

        >>Sorry yours isn’t so great.

        He says to the guy who lives in the most desired neigborhood in Manhattan – the West Village – next door to Harvey Weinstein, across the street from Graydon Carter, travels around the country at will to see the Niners play.

        If you want to get into a disposable income pissing contest, your call. But that’s neither here nor there. I sure hope McKinsey didn’t hire you based on your football knowledge. If they did, it’s obvious why you only lasted 4 years.

      3. Jack:

        You’re doing it wrong. That’s a personal attack. What you’re supposed to do is write something like, “Guys who change their online screen names frequently and make dubious, unverified claims of professional success are narcissistic attention whores.” That’s not a personal attack because it would be E’s fault for identifying with the description.

      4. Claude

        You, Rib, and now Jack. Last season it was just the two of yous, but looks like you’ve got another lecher to join your duet. Happy Thursday!

      5. E,

        All is good here. Just finished off a Starbuck’s Mocha, working in my average home, surrounded by rugrats and laughing at the narcissistic douches who think that money and vacations mean you’re living the good life.

      6. >>Who wants to live in Manhattan? Seriously.

        Intelligent, driven and successful people from all over the world. Only an idiot or the terminally provincial would even ask a moronic question like that. Which are you?

      7. I suppose if I had to choose, I’d choose terminally provincial over city slicker every time. You mentioned Harvey, are you also buddies with Lloyd?

      8. Jack

        I’m with you. NFL scouting was thankless, McKinsey’s only value was the money, and now I’m just ecstatic that I have enough to live comfortably on without having to compare my Manhattan pied-à-terre to my neighbor’s.

      9. Brodie2Washington has you all beat. He trims roses and lives in gorgeous sylvan serenity. I’m entertained in Manhatten, rejuvinated in Maui, but I wouldn’t trade either for what I’ve got. Most of you won’t recall the phrase: “Different strokes for different folks”

      10. Tarzan please don’t stop babbling, up here in Canada you are what we all a “garage sale”. Keep it up please, I have not stopped laughing at how ridiculous you sound!

    1. Vernon Davis had an off day. He started off catching a short pass when he was lined up at flanker. Then he dropped a touchdown pass in a red zone drill when lined up at tight end. Then Kaepernick overthrew him on a corner route.

      McDonald caught a touchdown in a red zone drill and dropped a pass. He had three catches total for 15 yards.

      Gray caught three passes for 35 yards. Celek caught three passes for 15 yards.

  7. Grant, thanks for the updates. I enjoy reading your column. You consistently comment on the things I want to know about.

    I have one question I was hoping you might try to answer: Are the practices integrating things that would prepare for the noise in Week 2. I have to say, this is the one thing I’m concerned about. As talented as Seattle is, I believe the Niners can outmuscle and outplay them if they are firing on all cylinders. But playing in that stadium is just so difficult. What are they doing right now to prepare for this noise, if anything?


    1. Thanks Donald,

      They played loud music during portions of Tuesday’s practice, but you can’t replicate the Seattle crowd noise.

  8. So Brock batted 2 balls with B J Daniels and Tolzien as the qbs.. he must be better this year. lol. He still sucks. In all reality I hope we dont see Brock as the nickel. Our secondary is looking real suspect. I heard Fangio say Dahl will be starting at fs in first preason game. WTF??? Dahl and Whitner= worst cover safety tandem in nfl. Fangio is a joke. Spillman and Reid wasting there talent on the bench. If we had a better defensive cordinator we could of been Superbowl champs. Id like to see his style work on a team like lions or bills. Hes just lucky he has a bunch of all pros on our defense to make him look good. We need a more aggressive blitzing type of cordinator. Willis and Bowman should have 10 sacks.

    1. You seem to be a bit out of touch in regards to Fangio. Other teams wouldnt be looking at him as a potential future head coach if he were such a “joke”. We dont need to send that much extra pressure considering our D-line. Willis and Bowman are great in the middle and consistently crush the run.

      1. What other teams are looking at Fangio as a possible BC? He’ll be no more than a DC the rest of his career, similar to Monte Kiffin.

  9. Hammer,
    It would not surprise me at all if Harbaugh is having 2-3 string DB’ playing against AJ for the sole purpose of propping up AJ’ confidence level.

    Harbaugh was/is the consummate competitor, and having a #1 pick fail is likely not the type of blemish he wants to be associated with. Harbaugh is going to give AJ every opportunity to find success, and if in AJ’ case it’s more psychological then physical, Harbaugh will target that area.

    I’m reminded of a player a couple of years ago that had plenty of skill, but had lost a lot of confidence playing under previous and clueless regimes.
    Harbaugh went to work on the psychological aspect of building up the player’s confidence.
    Harbaugh did a pretty good job. Alex Smith has become a highly respectable NFL QB.

  10. Thanks for the update on Lockette. I’ve been eager to see how he develops given his size, speed, and chemistry with Kaep. Let’s hope this is a start of a trend. If he emerges as a viable 2, we’ve got a number of options at the slot and our O looks completely different.

  11. Pro Football Talk reports that Mark Sanchez expects to lead his team into the playoffs. This is very encouraging for Mark because it means he has a potential career in comedy after football; like say starting in January 2014.

    1. Brotha:

      Naah, Sanchez is a hack and a thief. He stole that whole routine from Tavaris Jackson. He’s the Carlos Mencia of quarterback comedians.

      1. U mean he says the word “beener” relentlessly until someone gives him his own show.
        Between Sanchez and Geno i cant think of a more “deer in the headlights” insecure QB tandem.
        Damn and I was counting on someone to step up and at least provide resistance to the Pats. Oh well I’l just have to wait until TB is retired

  12. Here are the four WR’s that should make the 53:


    If the 49ers keep six, which I think they will, who will be the other two? I would pick out of the next four for them:


    Don’t see the next three as having much of a shot at latching onto a roster spot.


    1. I think one would be Collie and the other Moore. Moore can play special teams, has good size and has a good camp. Hall has been playing well but he is just a slot guy. Collie plays the slot is the better WR. He was drafted and was an up and coming great WR till his injuries. Obviously more talented than Hall. The next question is equally important. When Manningham and Crabtree come back who gets the ax?

      1. Jack, I agree with both of you. The only other thing that I’ve considered because of Dude’s question about MM’s return, is might the 49ers keep a PS eligible WR like Lockette (not sure of Hall’s eligibility) so they could open up a WR spot by waiving him and bringing him back to the PS and have a WR that knows the offense they could bring up in case of an injury.

        Or do you think MM just gets released at some point?

      2. They could Space, but I don’t see the need to do that. I am sure they can get one or two of these undrafted guys onto the PS.

        The real question in my mind is the number of WR’s they keep. They kept 6 last year, but the 6th was Ted Ginn, and he was kept primarily as a return man until injuries forced him into the WR rotation.

        This year with James handling the return duties that 6th WR may not be necessary. This is why it is so important for the young guys like Jenkins and Patton to step up and show that they can actually be counted on.

      3. Jack, I guess I’m leaning toward six mainly because of the last couple of season’s WR injuries. But as you’ve pointed out before, six probably wouldn’t really be needed because of how seldom the 49ers use multi-receiver sets. Plus they have other options with VM and LMJ.

        I do hope VM can get over the drops, though. It has been good to hear that Celek has been solid catching the ball so far along with his blocking. Could he surprise everybody by starting the season as the #2 TE?

      4. Space

        You’re leaning towards 6 because there are 6 that should make the roster:

        Boldin, Williams, Jenkins, Patton, Moore, & Lockette.

        That’s a pretty scary WR corps if Kaep has created that “chemistry” with them.

      5. Could Hall’s return skills get him on the 53? Plus, what of Manningham, and later perhaps Crabs? Admittedly that last question doesn’t effect the Game#1 roster.

      6. I expect Collie to make the team – it sounds like his knee is holding up fine. He’s a good player and would make the best option as the slot WR. Moore might make the team for his ST capability, but when Manningham is right to go he would be the most likely one to be released.

      7. I agree with you on that Scooter. If Collie gets himself back to where he was pre injury he could be a great asset, and provide insurance in case Jenkins or Patton struggle.

    2. If you are right about your first four and they keep two more, I would guess Moore and Lockette. But I wonder about Jenkins. They are trying to scare him into being something he might not be. And he drops a lot of passes. He’s eligible for the PS, isn’t he?

      1. Here is some amateur psychology: You can alter someone’s behavior (i. e., Jenkins) in one of three ways: teaching, modeling, and scaring. He’s gotten plenty of teaching, and he’s been exposed to excellent model behavior. The last resort is scaring. That’s what they are trying now. If this doesn’t turn him into what they thought they were drafting, then it’s got to be adios. Release or practice squad.

      2. George, Jenkins would have to be waived first to become eligible for the PS, which would then put a “dead money” cap hit on the 49ers for the remainder of his contract. Pretty sure that would be around 4.3 million. If they waive him, I doubt they would try to bring him back to the PS.

      3. They won’t cut Jenkins this soon unless he absolutely awful in the preseason games.

        It’s great to see Lockette finally show up, but it was in a non padded practice. I want to see him do this kind of stuff with the pads on. I really hope he and Jenkins show up on Thursday and have good games.

  13. Your devotion to your craft is evident. Thanks for studying the nuance of the game and rendering it in true form.

  14. Jack
    I get what you’re saying about these coaches and rookies, especially Fangio. But question: wouldn’t you have started Iupati as a rookie? I would. AD, not so sure, as he had a learning curve.

    1. Brotha,

      Yes I would have. The thing is, I am not basing any of this off my own opinion, rather the previous actions of this coaching staff. Maybe this will be the time that they break their trend. We’re getting close to finding out.

  15. Crab15
    Its all good. If your lady had said ‘What? No way!’ I woulda understood. Its happened to me a time or two over the years. She doesn’t like some of my friends from my days in, wait for it, Orange County! They (we) used to be a little shady, maybe, lil bit. Now I say, I’m still an outlaw. I’m just not very dangerous.
    But you’re right about the Giants. Not pretty this year.
    Hope you come eventually, great spot for beercation, (and vino for a change of pace). Right near Husch is Anerson Valley Brewing; they rock. Good eats up here too, not all foofoo & expensive! I’ve got tips if you bring kids too. I’ve got some San Diego friends who come up for the wine tastings, so Ive learned some kid & grandkid diversions along the way

  16. re Crab15 comments on walsh’s development of Montana detailed in the lou spadia book…compare that to how Nolan “developed” alex smith…his first start in his rookie year was against an undeafeated colts team considered by many the best in the league then….he threw the young smith (21 yrs old, much younger than Montana when he was a young vet for walsh) in there playing with guys like Curtis Conway and Anthony clement and Kwame harris…even kaepernick may have fared poorly with that type of supporting cast rather than the one he fell into last year

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