On Vance McDonald, Joe Haden and the myth of ‘bad hands’

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Vance McDonald catches a football

Before we move on to the final game of the preseason, which is tomorrow, I have some final thoughts on former 49ers tight end Vance McDonald and the myth of “bad hands.” You can check out my thoughts below.

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  1. I really like reading your articles Grant but I can’t receive your podcasts or whatever you call them. Is it only for people who sign up? They always say that a replay is not available. Am I missing something? I read where commenters are raving about these podcasts but I can’t seem to see them. Can someone help me with this? Thanks

    1. Lee: I access Grant’s periscope session through his twitter account. He provides a link. Maybe there’s a better way.

    2. I can access Grant’s Periscope on my desktop, but not on my tablet right now (OS won’t run Periscope App or Periscope T V website). If you’re on a fairly new computer the website should work.

      A few suggestions…
      When the periscopes were after training camp practices they were easy to time to ask questions. The more recent ones come with little warning. More advanced notice when possible.

      Perhaps a better business (career) model is limit periscopes so they don’t reduce the # of written articles.

      Like the Facebook,Youtube and periscope QAs, but I miss non-proprietory eeb page chat everyone can use all the time.

    3. I get that these periscopes are your way of auditioning for a tv gig, but if you want real engagement, you need to put it in writing or at least have a transcript. Not everyone has time to watch a 2 min video that they can read in 20 seconds.

  2. Grant, the reason you’re not getting many responses is that not everyone (very few actually) can read your article. You put it on a twitter like site that no one can access due to their company firewalls. I cannot get there while at work, sadly, for I for one have never believe that Vance had bad hands. Whenever he gets used to QBs who are not named Colin Kaepernick, he usually does quite well and has been sure handed in the red zone so long as the passes are catchable–rather than too deep in the dirt, too far behind him, etc. I look forward to reading your article, whenever it becomes more commonly available.

    1. Wolf: Vance had a reputation for bad hands as WR in college. You people will just not let it go will you. You continually find reasons to demean Kaep. If it was Kaep responsible for his bad hands how come his hands improved last season when Kaep was throwing to him. People with eyes and no agenda can see through BS like you are trying to sell. I wasn’t aware that Kaep thew that high pass that he let go through his hands. I remember post a few years ago when your ilk were blaming Kaep for V Davis’s coming into training camp out of shape. He is gone and he has issues, but enough is enough.

  3. Soft hands are relaxed upon impact of the football, cupping and cradling. No need to stop saying it, because it’s a fact. Some have them and some don’t. Sure eye tracking should be part of due diligence, and am not surprised the 49ers don’t implement it. Maybe you should suggest it to them, Grant. VMac has had back surgery and isn’t likely to get much better than he is right now, vision excuses aside. I think it was good for both parties involved.

    Agree on Haden, and he’s destined for Revis Island sooner rather than later. Maybe he becomes a Carlos Rogers, but I doubt it. With respect to these draft picks, to include the lower ones, the competency of the new regime makes them much more valuable.

    Yep, Barkley can be reacquired if actions dictate that necessity.

    1. By way of a Wall Street Journal resource…

      Soft Hands and Big Hands

      “Teach receivers to catch with soft hands, which means to catch the ball with receptive
      fingers, wrists, and slightly bent elbows, and to give a little with the football as they catch
      it. Tai Chi, an ancient Chinese martial art, offers a useful lesson here. When two hard
      things collide with enough force, they often break. However, when a hard thing hits a
      soft thing, the softer thing can—by giving a little initially—control and manage the force.
      It is the same with catching a football—which can travel with a velocity of up to 70 miles
      per hour. The catch can be secured when the hands and elbows give and
      accommodate the force of the football. If the hands are too inflexible and hard, the ball
      will ricochet off. “

      1. Excellent visual, detailed description of how to catch the football with your hands.

        1. I agree! Sometimes it can be fixed and sometimes it can’t. You find bad hands used to be a problem when primary centers still existed. You can improve via repetition and technique but you will never turn bad hands into good hands. Passible perhaps but not good. If desire, technique and repetition could turn bad into good some of us might even be playing in the NFL.

        1. Okay. I’ll line up wide right and run a 10 yard crossing pattern. You throw me the ball from a three step drop. On two… Hut, hut!

          [Here it comes, tight spiral belt high….] Darn… I dropped it. Let’s try it again….

  4. Grant…VMac was an overpaid, underachieving TE. Did he have some explosive plays, yes, he did. But, if I’m QB of the Niners I just can’t depend on him. Between the QB and any of his receivers, it’s a matter of trust. As a receiver, you gain that trust by being on the same page as your QB…and by showing you can make the clutch plays. VMac never really established that kind of rapport with any of his QB’s. So, trading him to the Steelers was a good move by Lynch. It’ll open up the TE position for Kittle and Paulsen, maybe Celek, too. It got Lynch a 4th rd pick in the next draft.

    1. While, like all fans, I’d like more reliability in pass-catching, the fact is there are plenty of well-respected ‘bad hands’ guys out there (2014/2015 two-year sample) that get a lot of accolades. Here are some names you might recognize. There are others (Brandon Marshall, Michael Crabtree, etc.):

      Julian Edelman: 2014–15 Drop Rate: 9.6% (Funny how nobody mentions it…)
      Torrey Smith, 49ers 2014–15 Drop Rate: 10.8%
      Mohamed Sanu, Bengals 2014–15 Drop Rate: 11.8%

      And here is a three-year-sample study done years ago:
      Rank Player Current Team Drops Catchable Drop Rate

      1 Roy E. Williams FA 19 130 14.62%
      2 James Jones GB 20 139 14.39%
      3 Mike A. Williams TB 20 149 13.42%
      4 DeSean Jackson PHI 25 193 12.95%
      5 Brandon Gibson SL 18 141 12.77%
      6 Terrell Owens FA 18 145 12.41%
      7 Donald Driver GB 22 179 12.29%
      8 Randy Moss SF 15 126 11.90%
      9 Dwayne Bowe KC 26 225 11.56%
      10 Brandon Marshall CHI 35 303 11.55%
      11 Michael Crabtree SF 22 195 11.28%

      12 Mario Manningham SF 19 174 10.92%
      13 Pierre Garcon WAS 22 206 10.68%
      14 Santana Moss WAS 24 233 10.30%

      15 Devin Hester CHI 14 136 10.29%

      So when we talk about McDonald not having great hands… Things are bit murkier than people, with their excess certainty, really understand. Nobody really wants to look at the facts or the stats or why teams put up with the ‘bad hands thing,’ or why ESPN highlights are a BS way to evaluate players.

      They just want to point fingers when their expectations (reasonable or not) are not met without considering the context of the player and the trade-offs surrounding the player. Big play receivers (and TEs) are (general rule) not possession guys. The trade off, except for very uncommon cases like Jerry Rice, is you are willing to take more more drops because you’re getting a lot more big plays. And that was what Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker and Vance McDonald were all drafted to be — playmakers — not possession receivers.

  5. Can someone give a TL/DW of the video? I can’t bring myself to watch videos anymore.

  6. I hope VMac, freed from the Curse of the Niners, will make All-Pro playing on a balanced, competent Steelers team this season. Thanks for your years of service, Vance, frustrating as they must have been.

    1. I can see it now…January 2019…9ers vs Steelers in the Super Bowl. VMac catches the game winning TD for Pittsburg with no time left on the clock.

        1. It’ll be a great game. VMac has 5 receptions for 81 yards and the winning TD. Reuben Foster has a pick six, four passes defended, two sacks, and 13 tackles total. Beathard goes 20 of 25 for 349 yards and two TDs…also runs for 67 yards. Williams scampers for 188 yards and a TD.

          Sadly, the 9ers lose 35-37. Sebbie goes on a month long rant about how Kaep could have stormed through the Super Bowl and crushed the Steelers–easily running for 300 yards and passing for another 400.

          1. Cassie, you sound like a Steeler fan, and it is understandable, because they kicked Baalke to the gutter, so you are bitter.
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            Now I can say that you not only want the Niners to lose, you want them to lose in the SB.

          2. Don’t forget the five interceptions Witherspoon snatches, and Bolden’s 109 yard return for a TD.

  7. The theory that a players do not get their eyes checked by professional football teams in a sport so predicated on the use of their eyes is sort of ridiculous.

      1. It would make sense to me that such test would be undertaken at the combine or routinely as part of a generalized program for a professional franchise. It’s not a complicated test and it takes only a few minutes to complete. That makes more sense to me considering the importance of the use of the eyes in the sport of football.

        That’s just my theory, though; and I don’t have the hookups to do any research based in fact rather than wild speculation. ;)

        1. What is also ridiculous is the belief that in the four years that V Mc played wr that no one attempted to work on his hands. That was the illusion that the previous front office operated on. They believed that they could fix obvious red flag on their draftee’s. They believed that getting Jenkins in the weight room would fix his strength issues. Like the football program he played for in college didn’t have a weight room.

          1. Even funnier… Every team suffers from that magical thinking. I see this year-after-year as receivers and tight ends who couldn’t catch in college get drafted, sometimes in the Top-10 of the draft, because they think they can magically fix these issues.

            It seldom works out, yet they do it year-after-year-after-year.

  8. This is an example of talking just to talk. I can’t imagine your tracking argument has any real basis in truth. Give me any respectable football mind that agrees with you. Bet you can’t.

  9. There is something to be said about tracking the ball all the way into your hands. Cassie’s post above describes manual dexterity in terms of kinetic energy, but none of that matters if you don’t single-mindedly stare at the ball like a prehistoric hunter fixating on his prey, all the way until it hits your hands.

    Not exactly Grant’s point, but concentrated vision is certainly a requisite to catching any object in trajectory.

  10. Grant, love the videos man. Really let’s ppl see a different side of you. I’ll admit sometimes I would read your articles and think this guy can be an ass. Now I look forward to watching and think man I would love to get a couple beers with guy and talk football!! I hope you keep doing them man. Great work and awesome detail!

    1. Pretty sure Grant is taken. You might want to try Match.com or Tinder or the Facebook thing.

  11. It could be tracking vision but in general a guy who gets to the level Vance is at probably tracks above average. My guess is it’s more a concentration and focus under defensive pressure issue.

    1. Good point. Much more difficult to do when men with bad intentions are crashing into you like asteroids.

    1. Lack of skill for the position is never going to be his problem. How long is the shoulder going to last is the real issue.

      1. It looked fine against the Vikings.
        :-)

        Seriously though, you are correct. Some people were surprised that he is still playing after the AC scare. Some people thought he wouldn’t be ready for TC. Some people thought Cunningham and Davis were better players.

  12. I haven’t had time to watch the video. But judging from the title…

    Myth – A widely held but false belief or idea.

    So the notion that Vance has bad hands is false?

    http://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2017/08/29/analysis-why-49ers-had-to-move-on-from-vance-mcdonald/

    “Vance McDonald had the worst drop rate among qualifying TEs over his four-year career.”

    He had a drop against Denver. From what I’m gathering on the thread, the case has been made that Vance’s drops are more about tracking.

    You have to have decent tracking to get into a position to drop the ball. We’ve all seen the drops. It’s no myth.

  13. My last post is in moderation. I’ll be brief this time. You have to have decent tracking to get into a position to drop the ball. Vance has bad hands. It’s no myth.

  14. Some may say that I am a toadie to Grant, and only will worship him, but in this case, I not only disagree, but even vehemently dismiss and wish to counter his argument.
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    Catching the ball has a lot more salient factors than only eyesight and tracking the ball. There is also his tendencies, and there is wide variance in catching proficiency. Look at Diggs. He must have tracked the ball into his hands, but he flat out dropped them. Players can catch the ball by cradling it against his body, or catch it away from the body, and even single handedly catch the ball, although the 2 hand method is recommended.
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    It is not only the thrower’s fault either, Kaep was blamed, but Vance dropped balls from Gabbert, too. There are many variants in the throws. Some are tight spirals. Some wobble like a wounded duck. Some left handed throws have a different spin on the ball. Touch can be hard to quantify, but I saw many throws from Kaep that went over the LBs and in front of the safeties. Vance dropped those, and all sorts of passes.
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    Katie Sowers on the side line advised a player to watch the ball all the way into the hands. I think Vance’s biggest problem was his running before he caught the ball, and not concentrating on catching and securing the ball, thus dropping it. I even went so far as to advise that Vance, once he got past the first down marker, should have just concentrated on catching the ball even if it meant falling to the ground to secure it. Trying to run before he caught it, then dropping the ball was a big factor in his departure from the team. The Niners cannot afford to have the TE drop the ball. Vance even dropped a ball from Hoyer last game, so Vance was too much of a liability. Maybe the Steelers can afford to have him drop the ball, as long as his blocking is solid. The Niners cannot have drive killing drops, and expect to win.
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    Steelers are pontificating that Vance, now that he has a decent QB throwing to him, will never drop the ball. Fat chance.
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    I also disagree with Grant about IPAs. He cannot be serious to state he dislikes bitter beers, yet likes Pliny. By its own definition, Pliny is a hopped up beer. I think they add 3 or 4 different kinds of hops to brew Pliny. I like IPAs because they have a lot of taste. Those beers he mentioned are just 3.2 beer, and light beers are not even true beer because they contain rice. I would call them refreshing carbonated beverages.
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    Back in the day, Coors was coveted, because they did not pasteurize the beer. A case was worth a king’s ransom, and any party was a success if they advertised Coors. Nowadays, everything is cold storaged, eliminating the off taste one gets from beer stored at room temperature.
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    Now with the specialty beers from microbreweries, there is quite a selection. RRBC, 3rd Street, Fogbelt, Hop Monk, Bear Republic all have fine IPAs. Lately, I have been partial to a Little Sumpin’ from Lagunitas. My wife’s favorite beer is a Ballast Point Sculpin.

      1. He got Coors right. It used to be smuggled to other parts of the country because, not being pasteurized, it violated many State health codes. After that, not so much.

    1. Katie Sowers, our new “victim”.

      I can just imagine these guys are going to hang on every word she says……………

      1. What do you always say? Stick to football?

        “I can just imagine these guys are going to hang on every word she says……………”

        You mean like you hang on every word seb says?

  15. Bad hands means you drop a lot of balls. It does not mean that your hands are literally, structurally deficient. It means you are not, fundamentally, doing the things at the point of catch to maximize the probability of securing the catch. Could have to do with eyes, technique, state of tenseness and relaxation, etc. So it’s amusing to hear you talk condescendingly on the topic when almost every single person who talks about “bad hands”is sophisticated enough, language-wise, to understand it is not a literal indictment of the physical makeup of the player’s hands. This is especially aggravating coming from someone who is making their living via language.

    So, essentially, Grant, you suck. No, this does not mean you literally create a vacuum. It means you are not, fundamentally, doing the things at the point of your point to maximize the probability of not sounding like an idjit.

  16. Greg Cosell a few seasons ago noted some coaches/execs said McDonald “fights the ball.” Could be eyes, inability to play relaxed, lack of confidence.

    Tight ends and basketball forwards have the same basic challenge: The need to play in a state braced for contact one moment, then seamlessly play fluidly with precise touch a fraction of a second later to make the catch (or the basket). The instant switching from two states Solid (tough) to fluid (touch) might be a reason some TEs have higher drop rates.

  17. Agree 49ers hang onto Kerley. It’s good to have a “balanced” receiver corp, but sometimes having two slot receivers on the field creates matchup issues. A lot of teams lack two good slot corners. The Pats seem to do well with twol slot guys at the same time, and years back two TEs at the same time.

    Asymmetric attack is not ideal, but has its advantages.

    1. Should let coffee sink in before reading Salah quotes… momentarily looked like “extreme attacking the violent balls with gas….”

  18. MMQB, which has been pretty favorable to the whole ‘Kaepernick is Blackballed’ theory spoke to seven NFL executives/coaches. It was a very interesting read because they all said (basically) the same thing:

    1. Kaepernick is a one-trick system product who can’t play from the pocket, and
    2. RGIII has the same problem yet nobody talks about him and his inability to get a job.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/31/colin-kaepernick-nfl-blackball-national-anthem-protests

    1. Bah, what a bunch of gutless wonders. If they had those opinions, why do they not say them publicly? Hiding behind the cloak of anonymity is not a profile in courage.
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      They do not say them out loud, because they risk looking like clueless dolts for passing up on a SB QB, especially if he gets to play, and does well.
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      Just more leaks and smears, twisting the knife in the back.
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      Denying that he is being blackballed is just confirming that they all are conspiring to keep him from playing. Too bad their strategy has backfired, and players are still protesting.
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      The fact that the players , along with Kaep, are silently and non violently protesting against racial injustice, just means these execs are condoning racial profiling with thinly veiled racial overtones. I bet they are all Trump supporters, who like Trump, talk out of both sides of their mouths. Charlottesville exposed him.
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      Those execs are cowards, plain and simple, and are giving the NFL another black eye. Since the league is 70% black, they do not dare say those things openly, risking alienating their black players. They are pandering to the fans who use the flag protest to justify blackballing a superior QB than all but around 16 QBs in the league.
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      Aaron Rodgers said Kaep is being unfairly ostracized. He speaks the truth, and I will believe him over the gutless wonders, any day.

      1. Sebbie… Remember your ‘profile in courage’ moment a few days ago?

        sebnynah says:
        August 27, 2017 at 6:18 pm
        If Hoyer can play like that, I will not mind if Kaep is blackballed. Looks like the defense is playing NINER FOOTBALL.

        A pious, hypocritical oaf you are…

      2. Because the horde of flying monkey-***holes will spend months harassing, doxxing them, SWATting them and dragging their reputations through the mud. I mean, Jesus, where the heck have you been?

        1. So…. They are afraid of defending the indefensible? Smart.
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          Maybe they should champion social justice.

          1. Sebbie… You lost what speck of credibility you had when you blurted out “I will not mind if Kaep is blackballed…”

            So righteous, so indignant, so chameleon-like… You’re a pain in the bum to those who actually believe in fighting for social justice.

    2. Why
      – Of the 85-ish quarterbacks on rosters, there are multi-trick ponies, a number of one trick ponies, and an even greater number of backups with no ponies at all.
      – It’s the playoffs. The quarterback of the opposing team gets dinged. Kaepernick trots out to take his place. An opposing coaches nightmare.
      – An imperfect scheme match can still have value, just not as much.
      – RGIII is broken

      Why Not
      – CK7 has a proprietary skill set. He’s not a good fit for most offensive systems. That’s why I don’t want him on the 49ers. He’s the anti-WCO.
      – There are just a hand full of teams that run a system matching what he delivers. If a few teams blackball (or simply don’t need) him it has the effect of a 32 team conspiracy to get him out of the NFL.
      – He could be demanding close to starter money.

      What I Think
      Colin is a bad system fit for most teams, including the 49ers. But the quarterback shortage is real. Though his erratic play drive me nuts, to say CK7 has less less value than scores of bench warmers (and starters that should be bench warmers) sounds crazy.

      But the few teams that could use him have owners that hate his guts, or potential PR nightmares they’d rather not have to deal with. They irrationally blame him (rather than excessive advertising interruptions) for the NFLs loss of popularity.

      Colin may not be blackballed league wide, but he’s facing circumstances that has the effect of a league wide blackballing.

      – Is Colin worse than all 85-ish quarterbacks in the NFL? No.
      – Are all 32 teams managers conspiring to ban Colin from the NFL? No.
      – Do the large number of teams that could use Colin avoid him because of potential publicity nightmares? Yes.
      – Are there teams in a quarterback crises (and/or with a close enough system fit) not hiring Colin because they hate him more than they have wife beaters and felons? Yes.

      1. Tonight we should know even more about league haves and have-nots when it comes to ponies. Unicorns are a whole other concern…

      2. RGIII HAS THE SAME PROBLEM. The execs and coaches explained it. They both suck as starters, as a back-ups they needs their own special, tailored to their competencies, offense and you can’t do that unless your starter runs that offense.

        These guys have talked about it. Shanahan has talked about it. Others have talked about it. With all the limits on training camp, you don’t have enough time to coach-up all your players in one system in just one year, it takes two. Add a second system? Please… No team, already struggling to properly coach-up players thanks to the restrictions of the current CBA, is going to waste their time on a second-stringer who can’t run their offense.

        1. RGIII is playing on one leg. He got bludgeoned because he was not fast enough to run out of bounds. He is an accident, waiting to happen.

        2. – RGIII’s is physically broken. RGIII is no longer RGIII.

          – CK7 is a terrible system fit for the 49ers. I don’t want CK7 on the 49ers.

          There are teams where CK is a terrible system fit. Shanahan pointed out that its not fair to the other offensive players to make them learn two systems just to accommodate a backup .

          There are many teams where Colin is not an ideal system fit, but still certainly has value.

          There are a few teams where Colin might fit the system, with modest modifications, but the owners hate his guts.

          1. Jaguars’ owner Khan says he’s fine with Kap in his team if the coaches and front office want him. I guess he first made sure that the latter don’t :)

      3. B2W, I will concede that all 32 teams are not conspiring to Blackball Kaep. Some 16 teams have a decent to elite QB, so they have no need for Kaep. They are not blackballing him openly, because they do not have to take a stand on the issue.
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        However, I will point out that Bill Walsh chose Steve Young, a mobile QB.
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        Certainly, it is ideal to have a QB deliver strikes from the pocket and never get injured. It would be even better if he just hands off, and lets his RB win the game. If he is lucky, his defense will destroy the opposition, and negate the need for the offense to score because the defense scored.However, today’s pass rushers are big, fast and strong, and can deliver massive hits. That is why I like mobile, elusive QBs. Despite his detractor’s claims, Kaep with his 90.7 rating even with 18 confirmed drops, is accurate, since his completion percentage would have been in the 65% range if his receivers were a little more competent.
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        I totally agree with your last statement. The NFL employs scum, but shuns a leader and champion for social justice.

        1. Walsh acquired Steve Young because Walsh thought he could train him into a pocket quarterback. He was right.

          I like mobile quarterbacks, so long as they are quarterbacks.

          League wide conspiracy or not, Colin’s political activities are keeping him off rosters.

          1. I will certainly concede that point, I think he has committed several blunders. The Pig socks painted too broad a brush, and Malcolm X had Castro with him, which set off the Cuban crowd. Castro was not the focus, but many made it out to be more than it was.
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            Not voting hurt his cause, and I think he was manipulated by people around him.

          2. Kaep might have been a tiny bit more effective if he had more than a nanosecond of protection. However, he had turnstiles in front of him.
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            We all saw what decent pass protection could do when we watched him play in 2012. Having decent receivers may help, too.

            1. Sebbie… Woulda, coulda, shoulda….

              All the Woulda-Coulda-Shouldas
              Layin’ in the sun,
              Talkin’ ’bout the things
              They woulda coulda shoulda done…
              But those Woulda-Coulda-Shouldas
              All ran away and hid
              From one little Did.

              Shel Silverstein

        2. Sebbie… Interesting take by you… “The NFL employs scum, but shuns a leader and champion for social justice.” And where are you? Remember what you said…

          sebnynah says:
          August 27, 2017 at 6:18 pm
          If Hoyer can play like that, I will not mind if Kaep is blackballed. Looks like the defense is playing NINER FOOTBALL.

          A you a social justice warrior when it’s convenient?

          1. Cassie, I did not get a reply. Are you the Niner hating troll because your daddy was fired, so you want the Niners to lose another SB?

          2. Cassie, I was just acknowledging that Kaep is being blackballed, and there is little one can do about it.
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            However, since I think some team will want him due to attrition, I just think the blackballing will not be permanent. He will play, so the present blackballing I do not mind, because I think it is temporary.
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            IF, and that is a big IF. If Hoyer can be almost perfect passing, and can score TDs with sustained drives, I will not object if that is the direction KS is going towards because that will lead to winning.
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            However, IF Hoyer pulls a Gabbert, I will mind that the Niners refused to utilize a player who I think can help them win, especially if he goes elsewhere and takes the league by storm, again.

    1. Jeff Deeney PFF – “49ers not thrilled with situation at guard. Tomlinson started at LG last two years (49.1 and 43.9 overall grades.) Played RG this preseason.”

      Guard will be an issue this year.

        1. Garnett will probably play this season — perhaps in the second half.

          The good thing is that the front office is not blind to the weaknesses. They will act competently and will do what they can to fix it. That’s something we haven’t seen with the Niners for the better part of two decades.

          1. Okay, but they just traded a 5th round pick for this guy. Wouldn’t that imply that they would like to keep him on the 53. They were already going to have to make some tough decisions before this trade. What’s the impact now?

      1. Hmm, guess they want an upgrade from Fusco.
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        Trading away Vance. Waiving Brooks. Acquiring Laken.
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        I am jumping for joy to see John Lynch being so proactive, instead of watching Baalke sit on his hands.

  19. Getting back to the upcoming game, the 8 players who I surmise may have the most to gain, or lose, are Keith Reaser, Dekota Watson, Ronald Blair, Adrian Colbert and Garrett Celek, Erik Magnussen, Victor Bolden and Tim Hightower.

      1. I am almost certain that even if he does well, they will cut him. Maybe some team will pick him up (Jags), but there will be a lot of quality QBs that may be available after the cuts. I like Cooper Rush, Kevin Hogan and Joe Callahan.

  20. Actually think Shanahan is ok with Hightower. He knows what he has with him. The others…

  21. Sorry Grant. If McDonald has trouble catching passes why doesn’t he take it upon himself to get checked and try to improve his skills and physical capabilities?

  22. I just tried to watch your video on my desktop. No audio there either! Perhaps you can find a different way to publish your info as I am sure I am not the only one that would like to hear what y ou have to say.

    1. At there bottom right of the video, there should be a speaker with an x next to it. Click that and you will hear the audio.

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