You can drop passes. You can fumble. You can blow a coverage or miss a tackle. Those can be fixed.
But if a team loses its chemistry – its cohesion – it is cooked.
And let’s don’t pretend the 49ers weren’t headed that direction coming into Sunday night’s game with the Rams.
They had a losing record, a series of why-us? injuries and were coming off a defeat that even the players called embarrassing. Sports pundits were trying to troll up a quarterback controversy and 49ers’ icon Joe Staley was second-guessing the team on Twitter – during the game.
And the upcoming Sunday night game was on national TV. Everybody would be watching.
So it wouldn’t have been a surprise if everybody turned a little testy. Maybe Kyle Shanahan would snap at a media question about his play-calling. Or if Jimmy Garoppolo, after a series of questions about his future with the team, would give curt, one-word answers.
And most of all, perhaps players would start looking out for themselves and making selfish decisions. It can tear a team apart.
By all accounts, that didn’t happen. The team that took the field Sunday night against the Rams had a snap and energy that wasn’t there a week ago in the flop vs. the Fish.
I still think the playoffs are a long shot. There are tough games ahead, and a 2-3 start is a big hole out of which to climb.
But I’d watch this team. The one that flew around defensively, dialed up some clever offensive wrinkles and beat the Rams 24-16.
Regardless of how this season turns out, this was a moment. As Shanahan said after the game, he was watching his players carefully during the week.
“When you get embarrassed like that you learn a lot about your team,” he said. “I was very impressed with the character of our team, the way they carried themselves.”
Again, that’s not really a coachable skill. Attitude comes from setting an example and hoping others follow it.
So last week Shanahan was as affable as one can be after a beatdown. Garoppolo was pleasant and unruffled. George Kittle made jokes. After the game, Arik Armstead (wearing a “VOTE” T-shirt) put it well.
“We were angry,” he said after the game. “Not at what people were saying. That was fair.”
I also think they were more confident that they had their best players on the field and ready to contribute. Deebo Samuel was back at full speed and made an immediate impact. Jason Verrett, new at cornerback, had everyone Googling his career history. And Garoppolo was back under center, hardly limping on his sore ankle.
Here’s my latest theory on Garoppolo. Feel free to say I am full of seaweed.
I think the players like him. I think they wish him the best and hope he’s successful. And I think they believe he gives them the best chance to win.
First, he’s clearly their best quarterback. It was interesting that Shanahan made C.J. Beathard inactive for the game. He benched the guy he put in when he benched Garoppolo. Anyhow, this game made it clear, until further notice, Garoppolo is the quarterback. It is his job.
And by the way, as this game also showed, Jimmy G not only has the job, he can do the job.
At lot was made of how many of his passes were to receivers behind the line of scrimmage. For a while he had negative yardage on passes based on how far they traveled through the air. And no, that’s not the toughest throw in the game. But you’ve seen QBs sail a pass like that over a receiver’s head. Or throw it behind him.
And, by the way, he also makes some impressive throws. The fourth-and-two pass to Kittle was vintage. Garoppolo got it off quick in the face of all-out pressure and was ducking away from a shot by a blitzer as the ball hit Kittle’s hands. Fourth down, blitz, medium-long throw over the middle . . . a lot of things could have gone wrong there. Instead, Kittle took it for a touchdown.
“I didn’t see it,” Garoppolo said. “But I understand it was a pretty sweet play.”
So yeah, he misses targets sometimes, and we wish his long-ball accuracy was better. But quarterbacks are a rare breed. Ask Kirk Cousins, who signed that enormous contract with the Vikings, how he is enjoying his time in Minnesota.
I also think the 49ers like Garoppolo as a person. That’s he’s genuinely a no-drama, down-to-earth guy. When you make more money than anyone else, those are good traits to have. Of course, it doesn’t hurt to have Kittle, the team’s comic-in-residence, as a sidekick. If you’re hanging out with George, you are definitely at the cool kids table.
And maybe I’m making too much of this, but I also thought there was a revealing moment in Garoppolo’s virtual presser last week. A reporter (not me) started to ask a question. He or she (the transcript doesn’t say) gets halfway through and then has second thoughts. Finally, they ask if the game is a “must-win” situation.
“Sheesh,” they say, “just another awful media question.”
To which Garoppolo said, “I thought it was a good question, just for the record.”
I liked that. He took a moment to say, “Hey, don’t be so hard on yourself. Hang in there.”
The kind of thing the 49ers might have been saying to each other last week. A few words of encouragement and a reminder to stick with it.
Because, as Garoppolo said after the game, “The NFL is hard. Not every week is going to be fun.”
Editor’s note: I will be on vacation next week so no “Inside.”
Jimmy Garoppolo is still an unknown commodity. I don’t know if Shanny is sold on him, but he’s far from a finished product yet. Still plenty of room to grow. Stay tuned….
If it hasn’t happened yet it’s not likely to happen. He’s a decent starter, not a star. Every time I see a play where Russell Wilson make a perfect throw I’m like wow ?. He then makes a perfect throw on 4th and Goal on the last play of the game and I think “what if?”
I get Wilson is a generational talent and future Hall of Famer, but Jimmy is nowhere near elite, and won’t be if he isn’t by now.
The truly elite always show flashes of greatness. We haven’t seen that from Jimmy.
Also, Jimmy is a KNOWN commodity. We can pretty much gauge what his ceiling will likely be by now. We’ve seen enough to know where he struggles, how he gets/doesn’t get better on his weaknesses, and whether he has/doesn’t have instincts or pocket presence.
Sure Jimmy can grow to be more well rounded, but the term solid comes to mind, not great. We know his ceiling and it’s not very high from where he is now.
He’s started 26 games. Sample size is still too tiny. Get back to me when the season is over.
I definitely see flashes of brilliance. He has the quick release and can sling it in tight windows.
Still lots of ceiling left in his game. Niners need to keep building around him, not give up on him just yet.
Shanny said today that he feels like this is really their second year together.
Of all the teams around the league that have to make decisions on or unsure if their QB “is the guy” (Dak, Goff, Wentz, Bridgewater, Carr, Drew Lock, Lamar Jackson, Mayfield, Minshew)
I’d say Jimmy G has the best upside and best coach to get him there.
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Maybe, maybe not but what’s your point?
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This team has to find a way to stay healthy , until that happens forget everything else
“Editor’s note: I will be on vacation next week so no “Inside.” ”
Vacation from what? Are you telling me you get paid to write half a page per week. Geez.
Yet no one pays you for your stupid unsolicited political commentary. Go figure! Better yet, go on vacation! ??♂️
Bruce,
CW is semi retired, his contract was for one column a week in the Sunday paper. They expanded his contract to include one blog post a week.
Thanks Coach. That’s true.
Fellow PD Enthusiasts- I have a question for you.
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Do you wear pants during the pandemic? Let me qualify this question by stating I am residing in my own home.
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If your children (or their spouses) are around, should you feel obligated to put some on?
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I realize I’m pontificating on a non-sequitur, but the situation has come up in our household and the family has managed to make a mountain of a mole hill. ;p
My apologies for this catfish.
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To get back to what CW wrote, no he is not full of seaweed. I like JG so much, I have not advocated for Kaep to return to this team. I still think he is being blackballed, and deserves to have a chance to play. Considering that Hoyer, Gabbert, Dalton and Flacco are playing, Kaep is way superior to them.
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JG has the intangibles, that makes him a leader. He was throwing darts, and the receivers should have caught at least 5 more passes. He is accurate, makes good decisions when given time, is deceptive, and has a quick release. KS deserves praise for letting JG play to his strengths.
Change your avatar Nov.4th! Wake up dummy!
What, if Trump wins, he has to use a Hitler avatar? Did I miss something?
I do not subscribe to your hetero adult smut.
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I will still be here November 4th, likely in jubilation.
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I could ban Prime, but I choose not to. The Press Democrat is like a second family to me.
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Alas, I am a follower of Shinto and it would be beneath me to have him silenced for good.
I have no power to ban anyone. Prime just is his own crude, profane, insulting, obnoxious self, kinda like his hero.
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Like I said before, Prime asked when Kaep will play again, and I wrote November 4th, since his main blackballer may no longer have power to threaten the NFL. That sounds logical and reasonable.
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Of course, teams will have to want him, but since they are playing drek QBs like Hoyer, Gabbert, Dalton, Driskel and Flacco, many teams are content to lose without Kaep, instead of wanting to win with Kaep.
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The Jets seem to be Tanking for Trevor. Darnold surely is not the answer. Likewise, Jones and Haskins. The present poor QB play just proves that the NFL is giving itself a black eye, blackballing a SB QB.
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Kaep has been proven to be right. There really is no reason to blackball him, except for unreasoned hate, which has gripped the US. Many now realize that protesting for social justice is not disrespecting the flag.
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Yes, Prime is fixated on November 4th, and wants to crow about Kaep still not being able to play. I may be wrong, but it will not upset me if if I am. It will not be the first time I am wrong, and it will not be the last time I am wrong. I am also correct about many other things. I correctly predicted that the best way to help JG, is not to have the RB stay in to block, but to swing out the RB to give JG a quick safety valve. Last game was very satisfying to me.
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Maybe some have not read my past posts, but I said that they should put a man in motion. Why? because JG can read the defense’s reaction, and it sounds like he read Ramsey like a book. It also puts a player running at full speed at the snap of the ball, It also gives the Niners multiple options, like those very effective fly sweeps. Putting a man in motion can also over load a side so there are more blockers to that side. It could also make it easier for the WR to avoid the check at the line of scrimmage, and allow the Niner offense to flood a zone, so JG just needs to throw to the open option.
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I predicted that the opposition will stack the box, so putting a man in motion will allow the Niners to better attack the edges.
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I predicted a 24- 23, 49er victory. I was spot on with the Niner score, and am glad KS went bold, and did not settle for field goals. That last Niner score was a field goal, but it put them up 2 scores, so that was a wise thing to do. I kinda questioned the wisdom of JG lowering his shoulder to get enough yardage to make the field goal less than 50 yards, but I admire his guts and moxie.
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It was also very satisfying to see McVay standing helplessly on the side line, incapable of stopping the clock, because he wasted his time outs like a drunken sailor.
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So no, I did not bet Prime an avatar change, because he would just welch on his bet. A storm is coming. Kaep took the league by storm as Prime admits, so I just think he can do it again. Bellichick is putting his faith in Cam, another mobile dual threat QB, but I think Kaep is more accurate than Cam.
“Yes, Prime is fixated on November 4th, and wants to crow about Kaep still not being able to play. I may be wrong, but it will not upset me if if I am. It will not be the first time I am wrong, and it will not be the last time I am wrong”
The daily gloating and satisfaction will not come from you being wrong Nov.4th, but that I will have proven you wrong and that I was right all along regarding Kaepernick.
That’s how this all started and you like to use things from the past that I said. Well now your medicine will taste even sweeter!
Yup, you seem to be constantly wrong. You thought the Rams would beat the Niners.
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Since you hate second guessers and people who can be wrong, you really must hate yourself.
Where did I say the Rams would win?
It doesn’t matter. All I need is Nov.4th to come so I can stick some crow in your fat mouth once and for all!
PT- ‘If the Rams lay a 40 burger on national TV against the Niners Sunday Night, Is Saleh the sacrificial lamb?’.
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You are trying too hard.
If. You missed that part because your so high you can’t comprehend single words or meanings.
Nov.4th son. Better lose some weight cause I’m gonna stuff you with crow!
You are like Chevy Chase screaming- DONT PANIC!
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40 burger, but DONT PANIC!
I asked a question. No insinuation.
But don’t worry. Nov.4th, we will know who was right and who was wrong all along.
Mostert and Ben Garland going on IR.
That’s 15 players on IR. 15!!
Can we call you OGass for short?
My Dearest Whine,
You bet, my pet! ♥️
Yours Truly,
Paul OGass.
My God more injuries. I swear in my almost 60 years of watching the NFL I have never seen anything like the last 5 years for the 9ers especially this season. Now if we play poorly on Sun mostly if not totally because of health we will have to listen to all of the chicken littles blaming KS, JG and or Saleh. Do me a favor give it a rest, Walsh, Montana and Seifert. couldn’t win with this roster. Wait till next year and hope for health.
My God more injuries. I swear in my almost 60 years of watching the NFL I have never seen anything like the last 5 years for the 9ers especially this season. Now if we play poorly on Sun mostly if not totally because of health we will have to listen to all of the chicken littles blaming KS, JG and or Saleh. Do me a favor give it a rest, Walsh, Montana and Seifert. couldn’t win with this roster. Wait till next year and hope for health.
Yeah there is a point where next man up no longer applies, this is especially true when those injuries are focused in a few positional groups rather than spread across the board.
The worst part is at this point I think this team could handle even losing the likes of Kittle better than it can handle losing Mostert. The running game with and without him are vastly different. (Disclaimer, this hinges on how well Hasty does going forward.)
I knew it was a mistake to get rid of Breida and said so after he was traded or was it let go. I can honestly say that during the Rams game, I was worried that Mostert was going to get hurt. I don’t think he is cut out for a heavy workload.
But since it’s very doubtful the team will make the playoffs, we’ll get the chance to see if Hasty is a good, durable back.
Hasty may not have Breida’s top end speed but he looked to me like the better running back.
Maybe. But Breida was able to make explosive plays just like Mostert – so opposing defenses I think would have to treat them pretty much the same. Hasty looked pretty good and I hope he does well. Hard to say from just watching one game, but he seems to me like he might be a durable back. Of course, I thought the same thing about Wilson. Anybody can get hurt.
Based on this sample size?
If we’re going on that, in Breida’s worst season in SF he averaged more ypc than Hasty has to date.
Sorry, I think Breida would be the second best running back in this offense. He’s a plus in the pass game and running game and offers the same explosiveness that Mostert does.
He had a stretch of fumbles, but so did Mostert at one point but I don’t believe that it is something he couldn’t overcome.
Look at how they run and their lower bodies. Breida can’t even leapfrog Gaskins. I think people are enamored with Breida’s speed and forget he’s just an average running back, if that. He’s gotten 18 carries for 72 yards. C’mon, Shoup!
They run completely different offense… so him not leapfrogging Gaskins in that scheme doesn’t mean much. Mostert couldn’t get on he field at rb anywhere else but is great in this scheme. Breida was very good in this scheme as well, averaging 4.99 yards per carry in SF’s offense.
Also, while he is only averaging 4 yards per carry in Miami, it must be noted that he went to the team that was the worst rushing team in the NFL last year… only averaging 3.3 ypc. Hell, SF more than doubled their rushing total in 2019.
Gaskins is the better running back. That’s why he’s rb1.
“Gaskins is the better running back. That’s why he’s rb1.”
Ahhh you mean like Coleman was last year?
Even if he is better in that system, it doesn’t change what Breida was in this system.
Shoup, watch Gaskins run. He runs harder, lower and is just the better running back. Breida is more track star than running back.
“Shoup, watch Gaskins run. He runs harder, lower and is just the better running back. Breida is more track star than running back.”
And that is still not relevant to the the discussion of what Breida was/is in this offense.
The argument is that Breida was close to a 5 yard per carry rb with + receiving skills in this offense; and that he would offer the team more than Hasty would. Or, that he offers more value than McKivitz would this year.
No one has been brought up Gaskins in their argument but you.
Breida doesn’t run with balance, and he had a few flashes in Shanny’s offense. Hasty made him obsolete. It was the right decision….
Breida doesn’t run with balance, and he had a few flashes in Shanny’s offense.
That’s just wrong.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/6/26/15835580/matt-breida-is-our-future-49ers
Players that don’t have good balance don’t average more than 5 yards per carry in this (or any) offense. Which he did in 2018 and 2019.
I get it, if you don’t like him because he developed a fumbling issue or because he had issues staying healthy, but the idea that he was a bad running back in this offense is 2+2 =3 false.
We agree to disagree.
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George Kittle on rookie RB JaMycal Hasty: “He reminded me of Matt Breida’s first camp — he made a play every day.”
I guess Kittle must think he sucks like you do. Comparing him to Breida??? Couldnt get much more damning. :D
As much as I have loved the comeback story for McKinnon, it is a stark difference in explosiveness between he and Mostert and the offense is nowhere near as dangerous with McKinnon as a result.
Breida OTOH provided a level of explosiveness that was closer to what Mostert provides. If it wasn’t for his fumbilitis he would still be a 49er and a perfect fill in for Mostert right now.
Hasty has looked decent, but much like McKinnon I think he is not going to provide the same level of threat. Which puts more responsibility on the passing game and WR runs for explosive plays.
“and a perfect fill in for Mostert right now.”
Exactly my point now and 7 or 8 months ago when Breida left.
It may seem like I’m being Hasty, but he should be the main back over McKinnon. I’d make McKinnon the 3rd down back. Not to mention Shanny still has Samuel and Aiyuk for long hand offs to supplement the running game. Mostert’s best trait beyond speed is his ability to cut without slowing down. His hips get narrow and he’s able to tilt one way or the other. Hasty is the closest to the Mostert species of any running back on the team….
That we agree on.
I hated the signing of McKinnon when he was first signed because he was never a good runner, and they paid him like he was one of the best running backs in the NFL.
While the comeback story is nice, and he remains a great receiver for a running back, he is still a bad runner and now he is no longer explosive. At this point he is a smaller Terry Kirby.
Mostert and Garland out?
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Well, I hope they utilize Hasty more. I feel like he is close to breaking a long run.
You can bet BB will have a defensive plan to counteract the short passing game. Great opportunity for KS to outwit the best HC of this era. Added pressure for JG to perform in front of his first HC. Can bet Brady has some tips for JG.
He’ll for sure take Kittle away.
Naw, Primes inside source said he will take Mostert away :)
My inside sources tell me Mostert is headed for IR!
Exactly, Bill has already managed to take away Mostert.
The Patriots come at the perfect time. They have zero threat at WR and our secondary isn’t very good. Might be a good test.
And another running back who’s still trying to learn how to throw.
Long time guys. Back for a visit. Nothing’s changed… same as 2012- coming up just short in the Super Bowl.
Well I see Old Coach is still hanging around. Cheers!
With all this injuries and the games ahead, if we make the playoff, that would automatically give Shannahan the title of coach of the year.
The upside, the rapid development for the rookies. I really like Hasty
Well I liked a few things in this game but this wasn’t some kind of major turnaround.
Rams aren’t as good as their record. 49ers have a better roster from top to bottom and should have won that game.
I loved the game plan against Aaron Donald. The offensive scheme was outstanding.
Jimmy G looked better but he still missed some throws. JG must complete those passes to Juszczyk out of the backfield. That was actually a big play that needed to be executed to put the game out of reach. No way in Hell the Rams should have ever been within 1 score late in the game. Missing that throw was big.
What a difference having competent CBs makes. Very happy for Verrett. The man has been through the ringer so I’m praying for his continued success. He deserves it.
Still not much of a pass rush. Going from Ford/Bosa to what the 49ers have now is going to really be tough for the secondary.
Lastly, the officiating. OMFG, the officiating. NFL officiating is broken. How in the actual F do you call that McKinnon play a fumble. Why in the world did the league office have to intervene. A QB can go take a knee and if you breath on him you get a flag. A RB is laying flat on his back and sets the ball down and you call that a fumble. Amazing. Between all the ignorant political theatre and the horrible officiating the NFL is becoming unwatchable.
That is pretty anecdotal, don’t you think? Officiating has always been bad. By bad I mean human.
No Ribs. I think the NFL has made the game impossible to referee. There have always been bad calls. I can live with human. The NFL has turned every play into a complicated mess that needs a constitutional lawyer to interpret and opine on the rule book. There is no common sense in refereeing any more. McKinnon was down. Flat on his back. He set the ball down. It was plain as the nose on your face but the refs can’t differentiate between down, not down, giving yourself up. It’s absolutely absurd. And there’s a different set of rules depending on the position you play. No human can possibly referee effectively with the current set of rules. And don’t get me started on spotting the ball. It’s atrocious. Anyway, I’m just annoyed af watching games where common sense is absent with officials.
…is nothing to do with the complexity of the rules of today. That play, like you said was cut and dry, the refs just missed it.
It’s the most difficult game to officiate and for years the NFL has had issues with officiating.
They’ve done wonders since the 80’s so I think it’s just one of those things fans need to not worry about.
At the end of the day, the players decide the end result.
What is cut and dry is that you’re an idiot. When Refs can figure out what is a catch then let me know.
Sorry Houston,
While I think you are right in terms of the rules in general, I agree with Rib on this. There is nothing to interpret on the fumble, they just missed it.
In all likelyhood they didn’t see it and therefore couldn’t rule him as down. There is no rule that would make that confusing. The runner was touched while falling = down, even if the runner wasn’t touched, when he tossed the ball, after going down, its seen as giving yourself up = down. There is no interpretation that makes him being down as unclear.
*Note* I hate the qb strike zone, and the late slide penalties on defensive players, the weird catch rules, the defenseless receiver rules etc.
IMO, it is a rules interpretation question. How can you have a rule where an untouched player can sit on his butt and be considered down and another rule where a player lying flat on his back is not down? Different rules for different positions makes zero sense. It’s absolutely 100% clear if McKinnon were playing QB that would have never been ruled a fumble on the field. How can that not be confusing to a referee.
“How can you have a rule where an untouched player can sit on his butt and be considered down and another rule where a player lying flat on his back is not down?”
That’s the point Houston, there is no rule that says that. If a player falls down without being touched and tries to get up and keep going forward, that player is not down as he was not downed by contact nor did he give himself up.
As to the sliding/giving yourself up it’s not a qb rule, any player can do that, it’s just that only qb’s typically do this. We have all seen it at the end of a game when a running back slides/sits down rather than going out of bounds. Even if he is not touched he would be down at that point as he gave himself up. So if a running back slides down rather than going out of bounds, isn’t touched, stands up and tosses the ball to the ref. It is not a fumble.
Shoup, That’s exactly my point. Do you honestly believe that if Jimmy Garoppolo scrambled up the middle, was lying flat on his back, and set the ball down – exact same scenario as McKinnon that the refs would have called that a fumble?
2 weeks. The writing is on the walls. Those same walls are caving in. The noises are getting louder. A desperate and corrupt man has nowhere to run. His family is in jeopardy for aggressive criminal behavior. His associates are all crooks.
The end is near.
Troompy: “Could you imagine if I lose? I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country. ”
Ominous foreshadowing. He knows. Judgement day cometh. Note that the FBI works internationally and his sorry sad fat @ss will be dragged back for prosecution.
I wish they would drag your fat ass to a different blog.
For him, Interpol will have to change their notice from red to orange ?
(yes, I know there is already such a thing as an Interpol Orange Notice).
I sentence him to death by exile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbTzOIzCXY
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA OMG YOU KILL ME MR FUNNY PANTS HAHAHA ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Please stop bringing up that monster on this site. I don’t want to hear about other despots either, nor about the climate catastrophe (unless it’s directly relevant to a game, or to some posters’ towns etc). Sports is escapism for many of us.
You mean we can’t talk about Belichick?
Sh!t just got real . Troompy throws a tantrum and storms out of 60 min interview. The walls are closing in. The voices are getting louder. Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide.
So says the guy who post Trump hate bombs in the middle of a 49er game.
Your obsession with Trump has no end. But don’t blow all your wads, you should really save some for the next 4 more years.
If you are a staunch supporter of bowing down to street violence and lawlessness, then Biden and president Harris is your ticket (lol).
That’s the irony, AES. I like to blow my wad- into another man’s butthole. The current despot does not appreciate this. He must go!
Brucy,
Maybe you missed it, but I might be the only person on this blog that actually responds to you.
Do you really believe that any of your public Trump hate announcements have changed any minds around here?
Dude, I would venture that everyone on this blog has their mind made up on who they will vote for. But keep up your
hate filled public announcements, I could always use a good laugh!
Yeah don’t knock it ‘til you’ve tried it, bud.
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AES, don’t tell me you can’t discern juvenile cat-fishing?
You stumbled when I joked about Putin’s shirtless horseback riding.
So you are taking credit for that whacked bit of revelation?
I did immediately. You didn’t find it humorous? Your last name isn’t, Ribicoff is it?
Ok, cool. But that is totally gay though.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/26gspjl5bxzhSdJtK/giphy.gif
Also, I’d be proud to be of Ribicoff lineage, Abe was a cool guy.
Did you just make a gay joke?
Sure he was cool. He worked for President Kennedy, but he wouldn’t be proud of your homophobia….
Razor, if you have fascination with homoerotic imagery, there is nothing wrong with that. It’s just surprising, as it goes against the grain of the image you try to project here.
Why do I have to have a fascination with homoerotic imagery when joking about Putin riding a horse with his shirt off as a sign of virility? After All, you’re the one who’s twisted a simple joke into a homophobic attack, and now you’re contrasting it to my imagery? What the Euck is wrong with you?
An attraction to obviously homoerotic “virility” imagery. And of a murderous despot at that? And your unshakable support of the American President who cowtows to that despot at every turn? And there’s something wrong with me? Got it.
Trump has set up camp in your brain, and left you insane.
I guess it would take a Trump cultist to call responding to widely reported news “insanity”.
I guess it would take a dumbass from NY to keep blabbering about nothing.
Aes, I dont post during 49er games. It is probably the A-hole above who is using my name. Notice the different avatar. BTW, had you not noticed troompee is the one who encourages and entices violence. Recall the mailbomber in Fl -cesar. Recall the neonazi who drove from dallas to elpaso and killed 20 at walmart. recall the recent plot to kidnap and kill MI/VA governors. he has been giving aid and comfort to the enemy, both foreign and domestic, since day one
Well, to be fair you don’t post about the niners hardly at all.
In fact the only good thing coming from a trump victory would be the amount of S**t you will have to eat. That would be the only thing that would make me smile if he won.
Panacy has an intriguing trade idea. Pettis for Ross. I like it. It’d give us back the top end speed we lost with Mostert.
I like it too. They both attended UW. A fresh start may do them both some good. Anyway, back to other matters which are more important. LOL.
Like pounding my cack in another man’s crack!
What’s wrong with you man?
This is the guy who claims to own a bunch of hotels. Right.
Not me but I’m honored you think it’s me. ?
Sounds like you’re creating your own burner accounts for your authenticated screen name.
That gentleman “grant clown” is probably you also, I bet.
My offer to compare tax returns stands. If you don’t believe me that’s fine but I can prove it.
Don’t forget that this whole mess of posters was entirely started by you and “Bruce Lee.”
This Lee fellow started posting daily musings about Trump, which had nothing to do with football, and you went and enabled him at EVERY turn by supporting his b.s. on a football site.
Now here we are. You reap what you sow.
As far as this Lee fellow, seems like he’s probably OneNiner. Same style of writing and someone else mentioned this as well prior.
Notice for the most part whenever Bruce Lee goes on a political rampage, One Niner stops posting, and vice versa. Also, both remove the white space in their names.
Finally, the style of political rambling Bruce Lee exhibits is the SAME style of rampage One Niner exhibited against the 49ers organization when Alex Smith was benched in favor of Alex Smith, and later when he was traded.
Hmmmmmm ?
In favor of Colin Kaepernick*
There’s only one penis fixated guy on this site. That’s you, the flea-bag king.
Ribicock, as in you’re a cock! As in, you’re an a-hole, a dick. Get it?
If I say F- You it doesn’t mean I want to jump into bed with you, idiot. Work on your reading comprehension. Might help you fill out the next PPP application accurately.
Agree to stop your stupid political b.s. and enabling of this Bruce Lee/One Niner/ Idiot and I will agree to go away and only read (not post) from here on out just like I did before you turned this site into a mess. Deal?
There’s plenty of posters on both sides of the aisle posting their side, flea-bag king. As AES said, are any votes going to be changed? Absolutely not. So what’s the point? It’s just people getting stuff off their chests.
It’s no different from any of us posting opinions on this or that about the team. Will it change anything? Absolutely not. Ah, but this is a sports site you say, that’s what we are supposed to be posting about here. In case you haven’t noticed sports and politics have never been more entwined than they have this year.
Short story long, I’ll comment on any of the comments posted here. You keep bringing your genitalia fixation into it if that’s all you have to offer.
Deal, dick.
Listen to this guy who has an idea about dealing with our over-politicization. He’s on to something.
-Donald J. Trump.
Check out the fun film breakdown of the game from Sunday night.
https://youtu.be/KYv_WHDv3Kk
Jack,
I kinda feel bad that you got caught up in Grant’ “good Jimmy, bad Jimmy” segment. But I guess this is what sports journalism has come to.
Aside from Grant’s obsession with “good and bad,” it was a nice piece.
Btw, Brady, Rodgers and Brees also turn the opposite direction after throwing the ball when the D is about to hit them. There’s no need to stand in the face of a pass rusher after releasing the pass. That’s not smart football or good for your health.
Thanks AES. No need to feel bad for me, I am the one who put it all together, and feel like it was pretty representative of what we saw from Garoppolo on Sunday night. The only play I wish we showed, but I forgot to write it down, was the Bourne drop.
Hope you enjoyed it. We will be doing them every Tuesday afternoon at 3:00.
I wish to disagree about your criticism about the overthrow to Juice.
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That pass rush pressure was definitely adversely affecting the throw. If he had time to set his feet and throw, he probably would have hit Juice in stride. Goff was also harried. The Niner pass rush did not get to him for any sacks, but Goff was uncomfortable throwing, and was a big reason why Goff was so inaccurate. The pass towards Hasty was also incomplete due to pressure.
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Grant scoffed at JG’s performance, and attributed KS’s scheme for the success. I wish to differ with that assertion. JG was throwing darts, and could have had 5 more completions, but the receivers dropped the pass. Yes, the scheme put JG in positions to succeed, but JG also delivered. His quick release on that 4th down play avoided the sack and gave the Niners a surge of optimism.
Naw, he took to long to throw that.
I guessing he was waiting for confirmation, either checking for a safety or waiting for Juice to turn his head when he should have just tossed a catchable ball. He could have tossed a lolipop pass that was off the mark but as long as it was in the area Juice should have been able to adjust to it and make the catch. Even then you are looking at 20+ yard gain.
Easier said than done when you have a pass rusher with no blocker in front of him, bearing down quickly.
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Look, I am not expecting perfection, but I think it is unfair to excoriate JG for not waiting, when if he did, he might have been sacked. On the Aiyuk possible pass, the defender was standing in front of Aiyuk. JG saw that and moved on to his next read, like he was coached to do. His job was to get the pass off quickly, before the pass rush had time to get to him. He was not tasked to wait until the pass route unfolds.
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Um, tossing lollipops is a good way to get balls intercepted. I want nice tight spirals, over the LBs and in front of the safeties. I want crisp darts that stitch the seams. That 4th down TD pass to Kittle, threaded the needle.
You are mixing too many plays in this argument.
On the play to Juice he waited to long when even the lollipop pass would have been fine… no defender could intercept such a pass when none were even within 10 yards. Waiting too long here was what the problem was and it allowed the defender to bear Down on him and effect a throw when he shouldn’t have been able to.
As a general rule they are not good but in certain scenarios they can be.
The play to Play to where He didn’t wait long enough, was one where by reading the defender and knowing the route he should have known his man would be open. By moving on to quickly he actually caused himself to stay in the pocket too long this exposing himself to the incoming rush even more so.
We will just have to agree to disagree.
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I think that JG did just fine, and in many cases, there will be a player open that the QB does not see. Does not make him a bad QB, because he made the plays that mattered.
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Just like me second guessing KS about lacking 2 time outs at the end of the first half. I could have done that, but did not, because it did not cost him the game. I did mention Sean McVay squandering his time outs, and the dejected look on his face because he lacked those 2 time outs to stop the clock, and give his team the chance to tie, then win.
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Hoping to see Hasty get more opportunities on Sunday. By next season, this kid could be our #2 RB behind Mostert.
I like how he uses his quick stop and go movements to squeeze through small openings. But Hasty also shows power when he runs as well. His only weakness is blocking, but this is where Shanahan needs to put him in the best scenario that does not require Hasty to be a great blocker.
I like Hasty shiftiness but I don’t think Jet has been given enough touches.
Let him get some outside touches and not run him so much between the tackles.
Wilson Jr. I find is a great compliment to both Hasty and Jet because he gives the thunder while those others guys are the lightning.
Would also like to see Coleman get back in the mix. Another good inside runner.
Prime,
You’re right about about Wilson and Coleman. They provide the muscle between the tackles and are good blockers when needed. I would also like to see Juze get some carries and get passes thrown his way. But, perhaps Shanahan is waiting for the right time to use him.
Except for a couple of nice runs, McKinnon has not been a difference maker. With Mostert out, he has the opportunity to make some positive noise. Sunday would be a good time for McKinnon to shine.
I liked McKinnon’s game against the Jets and Giants. He was running hard.
I think they went away from the run game against the Dolphins and Eagles way too early and he didn’t get many touches against the Rams.
Maybe Shanny is trying to keep him fresh.
Overall, the RB unit is our strength.
If you are talking in the Passing game fine, but not in the run game.
Jet is a bad runner and always has been, and now he is no longer fast.
He is the slowest running back to the LOS in the NFL and since the Jets game has averaged only 3.14 ypa.
In the two games where he got the most carries, against the Giants and Philly (14 carries in both) he averaged 3.28 ypc.
That is not good in a KS offense.
I like Hasty, he has quick hips.
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I also want Jeff Wilson to be able to get some snaps. He is the biggest healthy RB they have, I think, so he could be used to attack up the middle, while McKinnon and Hasty can attack the edges.
man! just a sad bunch of weirdos
specifically Bruce Lee and his “partner” ribico LMAO
Quit your gay fantasies and get back to running your flea-bag empire.
That’s not me, punk.
Red Neck Punk/Jackyl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWuSoeeWhMY
Bill Bellichick is usually reticent and taciturn during his press conferences. Some may feel a one whole sentence answer was expansive.
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However, when asked about Kittle, Bellichick was talkative and loquacious, praising Kittle to the high heavens. Reading between the lines, Bellichick will do everything in his power to thwart Kittle. He obviously thinks that Kittle is the biggest threat, so he hopes Kittle will hear the praise and be complacent. I would not be surprised if they double team Kittle all game.
How can the Niners beat the Patriots? They should stack the box and dare Cam to beat them with his arm, then get to him early to rattle him. Delayed blitzes up the middle from Warner, and judiciously timed safety blitzes may be unexpected, and effective. Above all, the defense must play disciplined and in control, in order to contain Cam, so he cannot run.
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I hope KS studies how Fangio defeated the Patriots. Bellichick got so desperate, he had Edelman throwing passes, so KS should beat Bellichick at his own game. I hope he dials up some halfback options. Maybe pitch it back to the right to McKinnon, who then throws it down the left side line to JG, who should be uncovered.
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I also hope they stop shooting themselves in the foot. Lining up offsides, jumping offsides and untimely pass interference calls, need to be eliminated, because if they continue to do them, they could easily lose.
Maybe pitch it back to the right to McKinnon, who then throws it down the left side line to JG, who should be uncovered.
Dear God, NO.
Jimmy isn’t very agile to begin with and is still dealing with a high ankle sprain… and you want to expose him to unnecessary hits? I don’t have a problem with using McKinnon in some razzle dazzle play but not to Jimmy, and certainly not right now.
SMH. JG would be uncovered since the QB is rarely targeted as a pass receiver. He would also be along the left side line, so he could either go feet first, or step out of bounds.
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All I am saying, is that razzle dazzle may be a critical possible way to out fox Bellichick. Sean McVay decided he did not need to change things up, and got slaughtered in the SB.
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JG showed me on his head first dive to make it a 49 yard field goal, as a sign that JG is fully healthy, and does not need to be only a pocket passer. Adding unpredictability, and a mobile pocket, achieves that. JG seems to be playing aggressively, yet in control. I counted 5 drops last game.
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If I were counseling to avoid injury, I would tell him and any other sane person, the risk of injury on the field is almost certain. The injury rate in this league is atrocious, and the winner may be the only who manages field a full squad.
Idiot alert. ?
You really do not have to announce you are. We already know it.
“JG showed me on his head first dive to make it a 49 yard field goal, as a sign that JG is fully healthy, and does not need to be only a pocket passer.”
Do you have any idea how stupid that statement is? It is very obvious you have never played this type of physical game. Doing something once in an effort to win the game doesn’t mean he was fine… it means he was willing to sell out to win the game hurt or not.
This is like saying, Klay Thompson is “fine” when he made his free throws and jogged off the court immediately after tearing his acl.
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Better put all the players in bubble wrap, then. Players go into the game, and have no illusions about the dangers involved.
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If a player plays not to get injured, that is usually when he gets injured.
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I have played soccer for years, and you may not believe this, but it is a rough sport and entails blows delivered, with injuries. I have seen skulls cracked, broken bones, bruises, cuts and sprains. Fortunately, I had only had various ankle sprains and sprained my MCl, but still can walk without limping, unlike many of my former team mates.
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Did JG become injured? His fellow players cheered him and slapped his head, but his coaches all cringed, and told him not to expose himself to dangerous situations.
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You really are trying too hard. This is not at all like Klay walking off the court with an ACL tear.
Soccer? The sport of faking an injury to draw a penalty? Where players roll around in agony pretending to be shot by a sniper?
Yeah that sounds about your level of toughness.
Nov.4th. Get your sides ready for some crow.
If you were a more inclusive person, you would agree that soccer as well as American sports ought to move in alignment with the Black Lives Matter Movement and institute a system to understand if certain actions on the pitch/court/field are causing mental harm to a player at any given point in the game. A player can impede another player through mental forms, as well.
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Should such harm occur, a foul should be called; I would agree the infraction does not merit the level of punishment of a physical act. But still, some form of penalty should be applied in such occurrences.
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But it seems you are unable to progress forward and recognize there are other forms of infractions on the playing field. Shame on you for holding us back.
Here in the Czech Republic the joke is
Q)”What’s the difference Soccer and Hockey?
A)”Soccer is 22 boys pretending to be injured to score, In hockey its 12 men pretending not to be injured just to play”
I remember a soccer player joined our football team, he was skilled, fast and agile… then the pads went on. I’ll never forget when he went to the coach saying he couldn’t practice because he had a cold sore and couldn’t put in his mouth piece. Life got real miserable for that kid after that got around.
This catfish sure tries hard.
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However, speaking of injuries. Mike McGlinchey got all bent out of shape with all of the criticism he received. He really should not let them see him sweat, and ignore the criticisms. He should not respond to them at all, so it does not look like it negatively affects him.
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MM did have a good game, but he also head butted his team mate Grasu multiple times. I know football is an emotional game, but it is counter productive to give a fellow team mate a concussion. I hope the coaches can calmly tell all of the players to slap a player’s shoulder pad, and refrain from delivering blows to the head.
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Like wearing masks during this Covid 19 Pandemic, the Niner coaches should take concussions seriously. They should forbid players from delivering blows to any player’s head, but especially against their own team mates. Giving a fellow team mate a concussion is not a smart move. In fact, it could be self defeating.
I have played soccer for years, and you may not believe this, but it is a rough sport and entails blows delivered, with injuries. I have seen skulls cracked, broken bones, bruises, cuts and sprains. Fortunately, I had only had various ankle sprains and sprained my MCl, but still can walk without limping, unlike many of my former team mates.
HA HA HA that explains enough for me. Yup Soccer is just like American Football. :D :D :D
It is also a contact sport, and last year, 88,000 children went to the emergency room for injuries incurred while playing soccer.
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Go ahead, believe that Football is the only sport with injuries, I will not try to change your mind.
Football is a collision sport similar to hockey or rugby. Soccer is a collision sport in a similar vein as basketball.
But go ahead keep believing they are very close just like bull riding and trail riding.
You questioned whether I ever played a game similar to Football. I played soccer, and it was not devoid of injuries, or pain. Some injuries were even worse, because there was no protective gear like they have in football.
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Yes, football is a violent brutal sport, and the human cost is terrible. Just because I prefer to be able to walk with no pain, does not mean I do not understand the concept of pain and injury.
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JG was tested last game. He showed his guts and moxie. It showed he could take a hit, and bounce back up. However, they do have a rule for a QB sliding. One can appreciate the brute force, stout blocks and jarring tackles, yet still want players to play smart, and in control.
Seb you are a women! In that you will never understand what it’s like to be tackled and have a 280 lbs human fall on top of your face, back, arms and legs.
Having never played football you will have zero inclination about pain and your head colliding with another helmet and you see stars and taste your own blood.
The fact you compare soccer to this experience makes me think you are a women. And women have never played football in likes of what I just explained.
I didn’t question if you have ever played a similar sport I stated it’s patently obviously you’ve never played this sport.
Telling me you played soccer is like telling me you played basketball or baseball. They all carry the risk of injury like football but they are not the same in the least. And yes, I’ve played them all even soccer.
I’d love to see Lynch move Pettis and Beathard for whatever he can get for them at the trade deadline.
Tomlinson restructures creating just over a million in cap space, giving the 49ers just over $5 million. Given the fact that Shanny isn’t in the mood to give up draft capital, I’m very curious as to who they might be targeting….
Perhaps a RB who can carry the ball more than 10 times per game without getting hurt.
They’re not targeting a rb. EDGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Go get Carl Lawson!
What about improving the O-line through a trade. Garland on IR? I mean the 49ers o-line is in desperate need of help. IMO it’s a total failure in roster building to go into the year with Ben Garland as a starter and perhaps hoping Richburg would come back. I’m hoping the 49ers draft Creed Humphrey as the long term starter but until then this team must have help at Center. Even on successful plays, JG has had pressure right in his face. If not Center then move Brunskill to Center and trade for a RG. It’s not like Brunskill has been lighting it up at RG. The play where Mostert had that incredible stiff arm only happened because Brunskill missed his block. Maybe it was a tough block but you need RGs that can get across to make that block. If the 49ers are gearing up for a trade Im hopeful its for O-line help. #2 would be help at Edge.
Alex Mack but I heard Shanny admit to Hroniss playing well, plus they have Shipley on their ps. I think it’s edge that’s the bigger priority….
I guess Mack would make sense since he has played in Shanny’s system but that certainly is not an exciting move. +Hroniss is not a good player. If he’s starting, the blocking scheme will need to tilt inside out so that scares me in the C gap. I don’t really follow the Pats so I’m not sure how they are at pressuring the QB. Right now, they are near the bottom of the NFL with only 8 Sacks but they’ve only played 5 games. 49ers have 10 Sacks but they’ve played 6 games. Should be interesting. If I’m Belichick I’m sending rushers straight up the middle to force communication issues between Hroniss and the Guards. Then when the 49ers fix the middle blocking I’m sending delayed blitzers through the C gaps. I really do think the 49ers win this game but this O-line scares the crap out of me.
This last game, a big thank you to Grasu. The guy stepped up.
This game has an interesting angle. Bellichick traded JG to the Niners for a second round pick. Then last season, JG led the Niners to the SB.
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Bellichick said it was like water under the bridge, and moved on. JG was loquacious in his praise for his early year mentorship from Bellichick, and acknowledged his greatness. Both had huge respect for each other.
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Now, we have a burning question- Will the Pupil defeat his Master?
Nov.4th!
On November 4th I will be celebrating while sipping some of my own specialty home brewed beer.
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I make it in the bath moonshine style.
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I call it: Golden Shower Ale ?
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It’s sterile, very organic, and I like the taste!
My catfish is a urine connoisseur.
The interesting angles are these:
-The Patriots under BB haven’t lost 3 in a row since 2002.
-Kyle Shanahan has faced BB 3 times, and his offense has averaged 27ppg. The bad news on this is that the totals have gone down with each meeting, 34, 27, 21
I don’t care about any of that crap. Who are they targeting with Tomlinson’s cap restructuring?
They increased the cap from $2.5M to about $4M. I guess they want to keep some emergency reserves to field a competitive team in the case of future dire injuries. Else these maneuverings will probably serve off- season roster signings.
Why is Shanahan’s historical performance against BB relevant. They have not played each other in years.
It shows how they’ve matched up, and that’s one of the main storylines heading into Sunday, How will Shanahan’s offense stack up against Belichick’s defense.
Block Winovich and run the ball 30 times. Game over.
Give me a name.
Billy Price
But both teams are exactly the same personnel as when the last time they met, right?
How did the offense do against Miami?
Miami? I thought this thread was about the two coaches of this upcoming game. Hammer, put the goalposts back in the stadium.
Where did the head coach in Miami come from? Watch that game and you’ll get an idea of what to expect on Sunday.
It doesn’t take a coach from the belichek tree to know to hit single coverage from a practice squad CB again and again and again. You could put together that game plan. That was DC malpractice right there, Saleh better have learned his lesson. If not, it’s going to be a long walk across the continent for him after the game.
Good point Rib. Add the fact Jimmy G was still ailing. Probably should not have started.
But that’s a game that might come back and haunt their playoff chances. The Eagles game as well.
What the Niners need is a couple guys to emerge. More situations like Jason Verrett or now Crypien or Aiuyk that can create a huge boost.
I’d also like to see a trade along the oline. Possibly Alex Mack or Billy Price.
The 49ers offense scored 7 points until Miami called off the dogs.
Hey Hammer, I’m not seeing anything remotely like Miami’s game from the NEP. I think I’ll leave the prognostications to Grant.
Yeah, I don’t find that stuff interesting at all. It does tell a story about the coaches but to me it always comes down to players. Which team is more talented and what weapons are available for the coach to exploit. For this year, for these 2 teams, I think the 49ers are a better team. Just a matter of who shows up in Foxboro. If both teams are playing their best then I think the 49ers win. I know the 49ers have a weakness against mobile QB’s but my theory is that the 49ers have a weakness against quickness at QB. Cam isn’t quick but he can run well in straight lines for a big man. 49ers defenders are frequently around the ball but quick guys like Wilson and Murray are what hurt the 49ers. I expect Cam will gain some yards but he definitely won’t pick up first downs running on 3rd & 15 like Kyler Murray did in week 1. I really like the 49ers in this spot.
These matchup records have little relevance.
Kyle once mentioned in an interview two years ago that he watches all the offensive plays of the Pats every week during the season. That suggests to me he keeps up with Bellichick’s evolving thought process on offense — probably also on defense.
This game will be a chess match between the two. Bellichick will probably double Kittle on 3rd downs and the receivers will have to step up. I am very curious to see how Bellichick will try to disrupt the Niners’ run game, and also try bait Jimmy G into throwing interceptions. Are the Pats still playing mostly man defense this season?
OMG. Rudy, what have you done now. Super creepy dude.
Shut up OneNiner.
Jordan Willis, come on down! Liked him as a draft prospect, but to say he has been underwhelming in the pros would be an understatement. Maybe Kocurek can get the best out of his excellent athletic traits.
Hmm, the Jets Halloween fire sale underway? What’re the Niners giving? Pettis?
We give up a 6th this year and they give us a 7th in 2022?
That’s the best they could get?
Bad news: Seahawks are getting Antonio Brown.
You have it backwards. The 6th that SF is giving up is in 2022. The are receiving the player and a 7th in 2021.
Yea, I just made a guess. Thank you for the particulars.
Sometimes an inadequately-coached under-performer propelled with Kocurek jet fuel can be adequate in a rotational role…
**Breaking News**
Bunker Basement Biden Hiden wont work!
https://nypost.com/2020/10/21/posts-reports-on-hunter-biden-emails-thrive-amid-blocking/
That’s right Dims 4 more years of President Trump! Thanks Hunter for exposing your daddy!
Can’t wait to watch Borat 2.
Can’t wait to watch the MSM meltdown (again) with the snowflake Dims and antifi losers!
TRUMP 2020!
Lol.
Thoughts and prayers, doughboy. Thoughts and prayers.
Oh look, it’s Ribicock fanning flames again. ?
Sure, call me out but not the doughy boy who started this exchange. Do I have to point out the hypocrisy yet again? “No politics here unless it’s politics I agree with.”
So kindly F right off, flea-bag king.
Okay, George. Did you clean up all that graffiti outside your “business” yet?
How’re the bedbugs doing at your “hotels”?
Great George! I fed them some of your wonderful spoiled food!
If Borat can compromise Rudy, surely a trained KGB Red Sparrow would have no problem. Why is it that everyone that surrounds trumpeee is either a crook or a conman … or indicted … or plead guilty … or a weirdo creep …
Fixed that for you BL.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/us/politics/giuliani-russian-disinformation.html
What are you BruceLees alter ego?
Wish the board would move you two. to the kiddie table.
Jack, I hope you can take some constructive criticism. I watched your podcast with Grant, and you still seem to talk too softly, so I miss what you say. please turn up your mike, talk louder and enunciate more precisely.
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You may have some good points to make, but if they cannot be presented so one can understand you, they lose some of their force.
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When I do understand what you say, I think you can make a cogent analysis. Please do not take this the wrong way, I hope to see more of your podcasts.
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Public speaking is one of the hardest things to do, but it may take only a few simple improvements to make your podcasts more insightful and entertaining.
Who the F do you think you are to give any advice on public speaking? You are pot smoking tree trimmer!
Know your role and shut your mouth!
Nov.4th. Be ready!
Who the heck are you to try and shout some one down, as if you are the judge of what others do?
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Some simple minded expletive hurling insult imbecile wants to give me advice? That is a good one.
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If Jack wants to continue his media career, sotto voce, it will probably work out as well as his other media endeavors. If I turn up the volume loud enough for Jack to be understood, Grant is yelling at me.
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Maybe SI should invest in a sound technician.
Maybe you should stop pretending you know everything when all you know is compost!
Nov.4th. Your proclamation comes to an end!
Stop pretending I know everything? At least I watched what he has to say, and cared enough to comment on it.
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It does not take a rocket scientist to know that Jack does not talk loud enough and enunciate clearly enough to be understood some times. I am trying to give him feedback, so he can improve.
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You, on the other hand, should be the last person in the world to pretend you are knowledgeable enough to judge what another poster writes. You are a bag of hot air and contribute nothing to this site. I, on the other hand, mentioned that the RB should not stay in to block, but swing out to be a quick safety valve. Last game, that was a very effective strategy, and one that never occurred to your pointy little mind.
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You deride others for being wrong, but worry about the Rams putting a 40 burger on the Niners, then wonder if Saleh will be fired. You really are a clueless wonder. You declare you hate second guessers, then second guess ALL THE TIME.
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You really must hate yourself.
If you are going to talk, use facts.
Nov.4th.
https://www.amazon.com/Joe-Biden-2020-Funny-Democrat/dp/B07WCJGW9M
I’m guessing Seb is a Democrat? Meaning he is full of sh$t and can never own up to anything?
Nov.4th.
MT- There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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Facts can be twisted to fit many scenarios, and delusions.
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Truths are self evident.
A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.
Richard Sherman and Dee Ford out for at least until week 11.
For all intents and purposes, their seasons are done.
I would be extremely surprised if Ford, Richburg or Sherman are on this team next year.
You are probably right, but that will be a lot of dead money on Ford and Richburg. Almost $23M. In a year where the cap will be shrinking quite a bit.
Not if they retire, and that’s a strong possibility given both injuries can be career enders.
Are you sure about that? Pretty sure even if they retire the team is lumped with that dead cap space. Maybe some of the guaranteed money that was due to be paid in future years doesn’t count (if there is any), but the majority of the dead cap hits for both guys will be on monies already paid in bonuses that were pro-rated to future years for cap purposes, and that won’t just disappear – the team has to have that count against their cap at some point.
Yep, it’s the Barry Sander rule. When a player retires, the team has the option to pursue the return of a portion of the signing bonus equal to the unpaid portions of the contract, and that money is no longer counted against the salary cap. Has to go through arbitration though….
With all that money on the line, why would they retire?
In the case of Richburg his injury is known to be a career ender.
In the case of Ford it goes without saying a back injury can be a career ender, especially one that’s already had a dangerous surgery performed on it.
I think that holds where a player retires for personal reasons other than injury, but where a player is forced to retire due to injury I don’t know how successful teams are in getting that signing bonus back.
As an example to my point re: the impact on dead cap space, after Luke Keuchly retired, his dead cap hit was almost $12M for the Panthers in 2020.
I suppose they could have tried to get some of that back, but they didn’t, and I don’t know that it is something that is often done. The Barry Sanders example was quite different in that it came out of the blue, was not due to any injury issues, and occurred just two years into his 6-year deal. And even then, what the Lions got back was a pretty small portion of the signing bonus anyway.
In the end how much of a hit they take would come in part down to the team’s decision as to whether to chase a portion of the signing bonus being paid back, which I doubt they would in either of these cases if the players retired due to injuries. It would set a bad precedent which players might think twice about before joining the 49ers – get injured and they will seek to get part of your guaranteed money back.
Thanks Scooter,
That is is very concerning, we have made some very questionable signings/restructuring contract wise. From overpaying McKinon to Restructuring 3 injured players contracts Ford, Kwon and Richburg… locking up more cap space. Their player investment choices have not been good.
Keeping in mind all offseason the question was, would you rather have Buckner or Armstead, Ward and the 13th overall choice. A second option which was not discussed might have been to cut ties with Richburg, Ford and possibly Alexander and possibly keeping Buckner or making a run at another pass rusher.
*Note* Cutting ties with Pettis and Beathard could give SF about 2 mil to play with if my math is right. I wish sigh.
Scooter, you make good points with good information but don’t you think it’s a bit different in Keuchly’s case? A player the Panthers drafted and spent his entire career there performing at a high level. Due to Ford and Richburg not being able to play up to their respective contracts, they really can’t in good conscious forward a case that they deserve every penny coming to them. In fact, it would seem to me that both players would want to help the team’s fiscal health in the spirit of fairness and good faith….
Razor, if I was a player I would believe whole-heartedly that one of the key reasons for asking for so much money guaranteed is because of the risk I put my body in by playing the game. So no, I think both players, if forced to retire, will consider the team knew injury was a risk, as the players themselves did, and that was the guaranteed money that was agreed. It was all done in good faith and it is neither party’s fault it didn’t work out. Injuries happen.
It would work out the same as if the players underperformed and was cut, and I would argue a team has more justification to feel like they should get money back where players don’t perform to their contract.
Fair enough.
Shoup, those 3 restructures were really strange to me. I know why they did them, but honestly, all 3 were done at times with big question marks as to whether they should keep the player long term due to injury concerns.
All 3 now look like horrible decisions that will leave the team in a big salary cap hole next year – in a year where the salary cap will be significantly reduced.
I have a very bad feeling that 2021 will end up being a dreaded “reload”. Shed the bad contracts, replace with draft picks, let the season play out and then look to compete again in 2022.
all that matters is 9-7 gets us into the playoffs…..and the running game gets us to the SB
The more I think about it the less convinced I am that 9-7 will be enough to get in. The NFC East is really skewing things – they will likely have a sub-500 team win the division which increases the odds of there being 3 teams with 10 wins that don’t win their division in the other 3 divisions. Heck, if the 49ers get to 10 wins the NFC West could have 3 such teams alone. This is why it is going to be really important for the 49ers to win their divisional games the rest of the way.
The only way they do it is if Jimmy starts playing like he’s getting paid.
I agree. 9-7 will only be the basement in the NFCW. That means two WC teams from the west, likely the south and north will produce a WC team each. Will we end up with better records or tiebreaker vs Seahawks, cards, Rams, packers, bears, Saints, bucs, possibly lions, panthers? That’s 8 to 10 teams chasing down 6 spots. A tough road when we lost those 3 stupid games, there is zero margin for error the rest of the way.
Thanks for that update, George.
You’re welcome , Motel Zero.
My chain of cheap motor lodges’ in-room dining menu needs some spoiled onions with grubs.
When can I expect them, George?
Customers are lining up and the street workers are hangry!
As always, you’re most welcome to bring one of your street girls over, by the hour of course.
What does that word salad even mean? Are you being catfished now too? The catfish being catfished… this is all getting too meta.
9-6 going into the final game of the season against the Seahawks with a playoff spot on the line is the most likely scenario….
Rapoport is reporting numerous team executives have their eyes on pass rusher Whitney Mercilus, linebacker Zach Cunningham, corner Bradley Roby, tight end Darren Fells and receivers Brandin Cooks and Will Fuller.
The 49ers will need to restructure more deals before trading for anybody else. David Lombardi reported that prior to the Tomlinson restructure they had less than $100K in salary cap space. And Willis will now be taking up some of the space.
Actually, Niners had only $32K of 2020 salary-cap space on Wednesday morning, To make room for the Willis trade, they used the money from the restructured Tomlinson’s contract which was official later on Wednesday, per ESPN. (The team converted Tomlinson’s 2020 bonus money into an immediate payout to create an additional $1.3 million of cap room.) However, 49ers are now on the hook for a new cap hit of about $541,000 — the prorated remainder of Willis’ base salary this season. So they have just over $750K in cap space now.
Yeah, I think they have something like 20 mil on IR right now.
PFF College
@PFF_College
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14h
Most QB pressures among rookies
? Chase Young, Football Team – 10
? Patrick Queen, Ravens – 10
? Javon Kinlaw, 49ers – 10
I, Bruce Lee, demand that Donaldo Trumpeee release both his US and Chinese tax returns.
Bosa out and Ford not returning until after the bye and ShannaLynch just let the Ravens steal Yannick from the Vikings.
…things are not improving.
Death, taxes and CFC driving by with the middle finger.
There are drive-by fans, and then there are seagull fans…..
Actually, they are. The Niners just beat a long time rival in a convincing manner.
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JG looks fully healthy, the WRs are at full strength, Kittle is a beast, the O line shut down Donald, and the defense allowed only 2 scores last game.
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More importantly, Ford and Sherman will be fresh and ready to help finish out the season on a winning note. Kinlaw is proving to be a Bryant Young type of player, and the D line has generally played well, even with the loss of 3 starters.
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O ye of little faith, take heart. The Niners dug themselves a hole, but can still achieve their Quest for Six, even though the injuries have made it twice as hard to win.
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I will concede that they sure needed to work harder to acquire Yannick Ngakoue., since I have been touting him even before he was a holdout. However, Baalke is in charge of the Jags personnel, and he would not want to do the Niners any favors.
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If Ngakoue is so valuable, why is Minnesota trading him away? The Vikings sure need defensive help.
JG didn’t look fully healthy to me.
That head first dive showed me he could take a hit.
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BTW gratz on your first victory. ;p
I’m on a roll!
can you send me the link/info to the league as I swapped search engines and cannot recall where the host site is…….. thx
League ID:8967478
Password:rlott42
https://fantasy.nfl.com/
Change your avatar Nov.4th!
Dont be an ignoramus!
* sorry- meant to b a reply to Seb………..
Last night was torture. Giants v Eagles. How did the 49ers lose to Philly? LOL
#Borat
Today’s article by Matt Barrows on The Athletic is about Armstead’s extensive game film watching habits, and his mentorship of Kinlaw.
Hopefully, they have watched enough game film on the Patriot’s offense so as to not open up running lanes for Cam Newton.
And, as the D Line veteran leader, he will hopefully make sure that none of the linemen line up in the neutral zone.
We match up well against Newton’s running style. It’s the agile speed that presents problems for us, just like it does for most defenses….
The Niners will win this one, then proceed to Seattle where they also will win. The Niners are a road team, difficulties seem to arise at home, they lose to the Packers and then win at the Saints. 6-4 at the break, things begin to look good as players are starting to return for the final 6. 11-5 wild card team beating some good teams to get there.
Works for me!
BB’s 7-1 when facing a qb that he’s either drafted or started.
Interesting stat. I’d love to see the no doubt illustrious names on that list.
Borat: “Rudy, Tr#mp will be very disappointed, you leaving hotel without golden shower!”
Who lays down on a bed to “tuck in their shirt ” . LOL. Also his actual shirt was already tucked in . LOL
Bruce,
Another public announcement?
Sheesh, you’re starting to sound like a CNN producer.
Btw, Biden should be more concerned about Hunter’ hard drive than Rudy’ hard on (lol).
Trump’s going to win, and Nancy, Chuckie, Brucie, Ribby and the national media are all going to melt down like the wicked witch of the west. We’re melting!
“Trump’s going to win”
RE, Care to place a wager on that ?
He and I already have one going.
Rudy’s hard drive is really changing those votes, isn’t it?
Rib,
Biden’ law enforcement policy sure is (in a negative way). With Biden’ and president Kamala’ passive position on law enforcement, Americans don’t feel safe.
Last I looked, public safety is still important to the people. And the people will show you that fact on Nov. 3.
Thank you for that report from the far-right fever swamp, AES.
If there is anything Americans don’t feel safe about, it is COVID and the economic uncertainty due to this administration, from the beginning to current day, treating the pandemic as a pure political rather than public health issue.
Ironical truth in that statement.
AES, Hunter arrested!!
https://tinyurl.com/y3ybv42k
Belicheat will stifle Jimmy G and the 9ers O. The only way they win is keep the Pats under 17 points and I don’t see much of a chance of that.
New England ranks 25th in points per game. 16th in rushing yards given up per game. 26th in offensive passing yards per game. 25th in scoring points per game. We rank 5th in passing yards given up defensively. We rank 10h in rushing yards given up. Let’s face it, the 49ers are a bad matchup for the Patriots. We’ll win the game….
Razor,
I hope you are right.
his need to be right rivals a whore’s need for cum….while his mates are being productive citizens razordoll instead collects handouts and is always gunning for likes on the blog…..
Razor suffers from Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) which is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking behaviors, usually beginning in early childhood, including inappropriate seduction and an excessive desire for approval.
Me too!
JL should trade Pettis for one the CB’s below.
They were all drafted in the 2nd Rd of 2018 draft
M. J. Stewart – TB
Donte Jackson – NE
Isaiah Oliver – ATL
Carlton Davis – TB
He should even include a future 6th or 7th……There is no way Pettis is going to be a starter on this team – He will never beat out Aiyuk, Deebo, Bourne, RJJames
Both Tartt and Ward out for this one. Time to see what Moore and Harris can do. Maybe Cyprien gets some time at SS too. Tbh, I would probably rather Cyprien than Harris at SS – Harris plays too out of control.
Really like to see Crypien as well get an opportunity. Maybe become the eventual replacement to Tartt.
A lot of the media in NE saying this game will be an audition for Jimmy G to get back to the Patriots. I’m hoping he lights them up and we keep him.
Niners 21
Pats 16
Lions should trade their 6th for Pettis.
I’d be happy with getting any draft picks for him.
If we got anything back it would be a steal.
I just don’t think the kid has the passion for football because in Shanny’s offense, there is always room and opportunity for guys to catch and run and stretch the field.
2 things Pettis did extremely well in college.
Between him and Ahkello, two huge disappointments.
Think he’d fit better with Stafford.
I think he would fit better as a photographer. His real passion.
BLM
Biden’s
Laptop
Matters
TRUMP 2020!
Four More Years!
Because 250,000 is just the start!
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/5-burning-49ers-questions-for-week-7
1. Yes. Hasty has the explosion through the hole that McKinnon lacks. He’ll loosen it up which should allow McKinnon room in the passing game. Patriots rank 31st against rb’s in the passing game.
2. Yes. The Patriots rank 30th, giving up 20 or more yards through the air. Jimmy will have his opportunities downfield.
3. Yes. The offensive line found it’s mojo against the best player in the NFL.
4. Yes. Newton’s style of running matches up with the physicality of the 49ers defense. He’s gonna have a lousy day.
5. Yes. Shanny will buck your trend.
Bonus question: Yes. Tradition kills originality, and Shanny is an innovator. Let him create!
I think with Mostert out Shanahan will keep using Samuel as well as Aiyuk in the running game and short passing game/ screens. I am expecting to see Samuel and Aiyuk actually line up/ motion into the backfield a few times over the next few weeks. Keep getting the ball into your playmakers hands while taking the pressure off JG and the OL to consistently win on downfield throws.
Jimmy is completing 72% of his passes when throwing off of play action. That drops to 60.8% when he isn’t.
Garoppolo needs to get the ball out of his hands. When he needs to hold it he falls apart
That’ll change when the ankle heals and the O line play continues to improve. But it’s true now:
Jeff Deeney
@PFF_Jeff
Among the top 32 QBs in dropbacks this season, when holding the ball for less than 2.5 seconds Jimmy Garoppolo has a passer rating of 134.6 (1st). When he holds it for 2.5 seconds or more it falls to 53.0 (last). #49ers
Some of that 1st ranking on passes under 2.5s comes from what are basically run plays though.
Yeah. Saw that Deeney tweet shortly after I tweeted this out:
https://twitter.com/jackhammer_nfl/status/1319317669615529985?s=21
It’s also something that Grant and I discussed during our film breakdown show on Tuesday.
1. Jeff Wilson should line up deep in the I , so he can build up a head of steam, before attacking the weakness in the D line. Use McKinnon as that swing pass safety valve, and give BB a taste of his own medicine by having Jet pass the ball. Hasty should get at least 10 snaps, and let him make those quick counters and misdirections.
2. I am so hopeful that JG will show BB that he taught him too well, I have JG in at QB in my fantasy league. BB will stack the box and force JG to beat him with his arm. JG should light it up with Kittle, and continue the quick reads and execution. I hope he invites the blitz, then burns them by passing towards the position the Blitzer vacated. JG should use pump fakes to deceive the defense, because they will be expecting the quick pass. Then, I hope he hits Aiyuk with a long bomb.
3. I was pleasantly surprised by the O line play. I hope they can open big holes for the RBs to run through, then help down field. Kittle is critical for the run game to work. Maybe assign him to block Gilmore.
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4. Like JG, they will do the same thing to Cam. They will stack the box, and dare Newton to beat them with his arm. Unlike JG, Cam is not very accurate, so I hope the DBs can get a pick. It will be very important for the pass rushers to keep containment, so Cam does not beat them with his legs. If they get to him early, they may be able to rattle him.
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5. KS will do well, because he has shown he can handle adversity and make adjustments. That 4th and 2 was a bold, gutsy call, executed to perfection. We all know that BB will try his hardest to take away Kittle, since he uncharacteristically became loquacious, praising Kittle. Maybe even double teaming Kittle. However, that might work to the Niners advantage, because Deebo and Aiyuk will be in single coverage. Maybe he should let JG become the field general, because he knows best how to defeat BB. He knows he will have to be on top of his game, and will give unrelenting effort in order to win. Only if he plays aggressively, and minimizes mistakes, will he have his best chance to win. This may be another case of the pupil being taught too well by the Master. KS should focus on game management, and add trickeration to set up his team for success.
5b. Yes, I think KS knows what it takes to win against a good opponent. This season, the Pats are not a juggernaut, and the loss of Brady is pronounced. I hope KS takes the BW strategy- Pass to create a lead, then run the ball in the second half to run out the clock.
Kerr likes to say that the Dubs must have 30 assists to win the game. Kyle thinks they need to run 30 times.
Niners since 2019:
Record when the run 30+ times: 10-0
Record when they run < 30 times: 6-6
Hate to say it but I’m picking the Pats.
A Cross country trip against a coach that was able to lock down the Bill Walsh led 49ers and knows every detail about our starting QB, that is already a bad combo.Throw in the fact that SF will have a new (really bad) center making the line calls, our most explosive runner out and both safeties missing. I think 1st team to 17 wins and I just hope Jimmy survives and doesn’t see ghosts.
The only thing giving me hope is that I think Cam is a joke and is about the same level as Carson Wenz as a qb.
Shoup, that coach couldn’t lock down the Kaepernick led 49ers, now could he? There’s hope there. Shannie knows a thing or too about Cam as well. Also, it’s a late start game, so that mitigates the cross country location somewhat.
With all the injuries the Niners have any wins these next few weeks will be minor miracles in themselves. I was expecting the Niners to fall flat last week, and they came through with a brilliant effort. This game will also be less about the QB the opposition know so much of and all about the game plan. Niners take this one too.
True, but he has always done better against less mobile qb’s. And has even done well against Mahomes recently.
I just hope our offense isn’t completely shut down.
I’m proud to say that I am picking the 49ers. Their front 7 is undersized. We should rush for a combined 200 yards.
Some will say that BB knows every detail of JG, but he has not coached him for over 3 years. Even BB is playing down that angle, and knows that JG will have a burning desire to defeat his former coach, to prove that his trading away of JG was a big mistake.
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Fortunately, the home field advantage is muted this season with no or few fans in the stadiums.
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Yes, traveling to the East coast may be problematic for the Niners, but hopefully they will be like the Niners of old, and become road warriors.
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It is interesting to note that the Pats have utilized lots if dime packages, so I truly believe that the Niners will be able to gash them with the run. Then, that will set up some play action passes down field. This may be the game that will show why KS likes Aiyuk so much, if he can stretch the field and catch some long bombs. Force BB to defend the entire field, and JG just needs to take what they give him.
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Many assume the Niners will be playing a former SB team, but it is hardly that. Many Patriot players opted out, no TB, some have Covid 19, and Cam may still have lingering issues from his Covid case. In a game of matchups, JG is superior to Cam, so the Niners have a good chance to defeat the Patriots. Saleh just needs to have the pass rushers contain Cam in the pocket, and maybe have Warner nail him on a delayed blitz up the middle.
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The Bills and Dolphins are both ahead of the Patriots in the standings, so this game may seal BB’s fate and it may be one of the few years the Pats do not make the playoffs under BB. Bellichick may want this win, but he just does not have the horses to do it.
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Niners 24-23.
Nov.4th. The moment of vindication.
You are so desperate, and clueless.
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You still think other teams will lay a 40 burger on the Niners and Saleh may be fired? I sure don’t.
All that matters is wether your prediction will be right or wrong on Nov.4th big mouth!
So to sum up, former VP Biden did not meet with any Chinese nationals in 2017 and did not receive any income or compensation from any business deals. We can confirm this because his tax returns for the last 20 years have been made available. BTW, if he did enter into such a business venture it would have been 100% legal. Meanwhile trumpee and his crime family are carrying on business activities with every dictator and despot from Istanbul to Azerbaijan to Moscow to Beijing to Pyongyang. This is occurring while trumpee is acting president. No American bank will work with the trumpee mafia because of their decades of fraud , corruption , bankruptcies and failures so they must seek foreign financial support.
Oh yeah, and when this debacle come to a crashing halt in 10 days, ivankee and her poodle jaaaaRAD probably wont be receiving a warm welcome back in Manhattan. Project Lincoln strikes again. PL has been one of the best investments I have made this year.
Wow! Gee Brucie, you sure changed my vote (lol).
Btw, Hussain Obama is now hitting the campaign trail for Biden.
Can you please tell me why the Biden brain-trust doesn’t have Hillary speak at any of his rallies or commercial ads.
Doesn’t it seem strange that the person you likely voted for 4 years ago is not being invited to speak on behalf of Biden?
I must say this about your Dems, phonies recognize phonies (ha ha).
AES, you raise an interesting point. Clinton has been an outspoken supporter of Biden but team Biden felt that she is not best suited for the campaign . Obama and the rest of the D leadership past and present completely support Biden and have been involved with campaigning. What about on the other side?
The last republican nominee Romney voted to impeach trumpee and called him a fraud and conartist.
The previous nominee McCain hated trumpee. Coward trumpee repeatedly denigrated McCain’s heroic service. His widow has appeared in ads for Biden.
The last R president Bush has remained silent but members of his whitehouse have formed Project Lincoln and are viciously attacking trumppee and his crime family .
Phonies indeed. LMAO
Gee, just as much as doughboy changed mine!
Conversely, why hasn’t the Trump camp had Mitt Romney out on the stump for him? Oh, wait.
It’s obvious why Trump hasn’t used Romney. Romney has no backbone and is confused on whether he’s a Rep or Dem. Why would the Trump camp need him?
This guy is a foxhole Rino.
Biden not utilizing Hillary is pretty telling : there’s no honor among crooks.
It is, what it is.
You are just as confused as Trump is. Hillary is not in the race this year. And the flop sweat is showing in lame attempts to resurrect her. Talk about someone living rent-free in your collective heads.
Looks like the Trump camp has no use for a lot of other (supposedly non-RINO) R senators either.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-senate-republicans-election/2020/10/24/f93f5ed0-15f4-11eb-ba42-ec6a580836ed_story.html
With Trump stooge Lou Dobbs throwing him under the bus, you can put Lindsey Graham firmly in that category.
Burn it all down on the way out. He’s reached “Downfall” territory.
Seb says:
October 19, 2020 at 7:18 pm
My apologies for this catfish.
“… I like JG so much, I have not advocated for Kaep to return to this team…”
Any Hope of Seb moving on from Kaep was lost during electric shock therapy at the sanitarium.
Delusionals often cling to hero worship to maintain sanity.
Although 2016 seems ancient to us (Kaep’s last season in SF), the delusional insists it’s the present.
While curative strategies such as Cognitive-Behavior Therapy and psychotropic pharmaceuticals are in order, the subject can take years to restore normality.
Consequently, family members become impatient, opting for quicker results present in the science of ELT–Electric Shock Therapy.
TrollD, reading is fundamental. While I think Kaep is better than half the starters in this league, I have moved on.
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I am happy with JG as the starting franchise QB for the San Francisco 49ers.
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However, right now, after seeing Mullens and CJB play, Kaep would be a superior backup to those 2.
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Yet, I still believe that Kaep is better than QBs who have started like Darnold, Jones, Haskins, Trubisky, Minshew, Flacco, Hoyer, Stidham, Driskel, Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Taylor, Keenum, Rypien, Mullens and CJB. You, obviously, think they are superior to Kaep, but their records show how inferior they are.
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I do not want Kaep to be a backup on the Niners, because I think he deserves to find a starting job in the NFL.
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You, on the other hand, think that blackballing Kaep is fine, even though he was proven right. Goodell even had to apologize for the unfair persecution, and said he wanted Kaep to have a chance to at least try out.
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Such gutless wonders, Afraid to let Kaep even try out. Cowards who are afraid Kaep could play, and take the league by storm, again. If you are so certain he could not play, you should be clamoring for a team to give Kaep a tryout, and hope he fails.
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I did make a guess that Kaep could return to the league depending on who wins in November, but it seems like a logical call to say he would return if his biggest impediment loses soon. On November 4th, some one may have more worries than continuing the unfair blackballing of a black QB. He might be thinking about fleeing the country, so he does not land in jail.
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Sounds like you have intimate knowledge about EST, but it seems like it did not work.
STFU! Nov.4th we will see if you are right about old wind up!
It was a guess, and it does not matter if I am right or wrong.if you fixate on one time when I am wrong, then ignore 10 times when I am right, you are delusional.
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I was certainly right about this game. The Niners stacked the box and dared Cam to beat them with his arm. unlike JG, Cam is not very accurate, so I hoped the DBs would get a pick, but was wrong, because they got 4, or maybe I was right 4 times.
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I also hoped JG would throw a long bomb to Aiyuk. Mission accomplished.
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Looking at the league, both the Broncos and Cowboys may want to look at Kaep. H e would certainly be an upgrade over Lock or Dalton.
Anyone watching the Ohio St. game? I think I like Fields just a little bit more than Lawrence. Either way this draft could be the best QB draft we have seen in a while.,
Cyprien’s been elevated from the PS. Curious to see how he performs – but not sure he’ll be on the field.
Ridley makes a heck of a play but overlooked is the sensational pass from Ryan.
https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1320425101859393538?s=20
Nice drive. Very nice.
Nice drive!
Perfect play calling. The wizard aka Kyle Shanahan.
That was a fumble!
Not even close
So why wasn’t that late hit on JG called? You see that called time and time again every Sunday across the league.
Hey Palpatine, Cam is no Brady!
Defense came to play today! Move over Bobby Wagner, Fred Warner is the best middle linebacker in the NFL.
That!
ALL – PRO Fred freaking Warner???
Sweet just watching this guy grow into a future ALL PRO
It’s amazing that ShanaLynch have drafted an All Pro calibre player in 3 straight drafts and they still get heat for a few bad picks. Great play there by Warner.
Warner was the best pick I’ve ever mocked even though it was in round 2. Getting him in the 3rd was larceny!
Niners running game is clicking. Fun game to watch. Time of possession has to be real one sided.
I think I heard 18 min to 5 min.
40 total 1st half offensive yards for NEP so far. Is that a low in the Belicheck era?
Nice, short drive.
Freakin’ Robot Morons, man…
Why is Gould doing kickoffs?
Damn, I was wrong about this game regardless of the outcome and couldn’t be happier.
I think I get it now….kshan truly believes he can win with a qb paid less than franchise money..
I won’t be shocked if they decide to reallocate resources away from qb to other positions in the future
I’m leaning towards agreeing with you on that oneniner. They can find a QB to run these dump off’s and shovel passes, at a quarter of Jimmy’s price.
If Jimmy cannot fix his downfield passing by the end of this season, I’m ready to move on! And I would imagine Kyle feels the same way!
wow just wow very impressive.
Very, very nice. Dial it up!
Does it matter who the 49ers have running the ball?
Run left outside, run right outside, run up the middle! I love the fight in TD Wilson, Jr.!
Unleash this Kraken on Seahawks next week.
Hope for a strong 2nd half…
Burp…
Id like to see Aiyuk fight for that a bit more. It was unlikely to matter but its more of the aggressive mentality you want to see.
Agreed Shoup, but my goodness, another lousy looking deep throw, or as I would call it, “a dying duck”, from Jimmy. Is a QB worth the money they are paying him if he can’t throw the ball deep … at all? I am not so sure. Jimmy has command of this style offense, except on the deep throws, and it’s either poor mechanics, or a below average arm … your pick.
They can find a QB who can handle this short passing scheme, at half of Jimmy’s price, so why pay him this much money moving forward, if he can’t throw a deep pass?
He simply cannot throw a half decent deep ball, without overthrowing his target, or throwing a dying duck. If he cannot fix that, it’s time for ShanaLynch to draft his replacement and move on, IMO.
Seriously? You mean find a QB to handle the offense like CJB or Mullens? How has the team done with those two mooks compared to Jimmy?
No, I mean draft a smart, athletic QB in the 2nd round, and start developing him ASAP. He doesn’t need a great arm to handle this style offense. He needs to be smart, and accurate on short passes. Preferably a QB who can add a little bit of running ability to this offense.
In this day an age, you can be a very good team, but you aren’t going to get past Seattle and Wilson, or win Super Bowl with a QB who can’t throw a decent 25-40 yard pass downfield!
I like Jimmy a lot, and I think if he can get that fixed, he’s the guy. But he hasn’t fixed it since he’s been here, so I am really starting to doubt he can.
And until he does, he’s never going to be considered a top tier QB, no matter how good his coach, or the team around him is. Kyle Shanahan has had to reduce this offense in order to protect his QB, ever since the ACL injury, and quite frankly, it’s getting old … fast.
Yeah, and not the first time he hasn’t come back and fought for a ball downfield. I really like his game, and it isn’t an issue with being tough, he just seems to give up on plays downfield that don’t fall where he is running to. Either that or he is struggling to track the ball downfield, but he didn’t have an issue with that in college. Needs to come back on plays like that and either attempt to catch it or play DB.
Yeah, the strange thing is I’m not sure that is really coachable or not.
It’s more of a mentality… that said, I do agree he has the toughness and has more shake than anyone else in the receiving group so there is a lot to work with.
I told you Newton would play lousy in this game!
And Patriots D wants no part of the Niners run game.
Yup.
Well, it certainly looks like the pupil was taught too well by the Master.
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I am happy. Wilson lining up deep in the I, then doing the unexpected with Juice, was KS out coaching BB.
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Now I hope the Niners use Hasty, but in a deliberate manner, and not too hasty.
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Hopefully, KS can finish this game, with no injuries. Bill Walsh would build up a first half lead, then run the ball to run out the clock.
Oh FFFF! Not Wilson
And now Samuel is hurt. Why the F is Kyle running Deebo when the game is out of reach. And that’s the problem with having to over use your WR’s as RB’s. They are going to inevitably get hurt.
I don’t believe in curses, but WTF is happening to 49er running backs!
You run, you excel, you get injured.
Aint a curse 49er42. You can’t expect your WR’s to take this much punishment on a game by game basis. They aren’t RB’s for a reason. But, because Jimmy is so incredibly insufficient with all of his downfield passes, Kyle really has no choice but to expose his receivers to this kind of physical play.
Pretty sad when I have to turn off such a great game out of so much frustration with these injuries, and it can’t all be bad luck!! It’s this ultra physical brand of football that is taking it’s toll!
Or maybe this is just the philosophy he believes in. Just like his Father.
Happy Dallas got waxed today.
You’re going to be happy a lot this season!
This chapter of kshan playbook is totally different….we haven’t seen mullens or cjb run this kind of game plan.
I do believe kshan wants the consistent long ball which is the reward from running the ball so much..
Same formations with WR running in motion different delivery….more swing passes today.. last game were tosses to wr…..
If we had done the same tosses as last game NE was ready with blitzes straight in the middle to disrupt oline
movement …by swinging the passes to the sidelines, oline stays put …NE had less time to recover to the sidelines…..genius Kshan..
Cam pulled. Mullens to NE for a 2nd round pick.
I don’t know about Mullens, but the Cam era in NE is on shaky ground. Maybe NE can find one of those successful QBs that 49Reasons says are all over the 2nd round.
Rib, has Shanahan been forced to change this offense this season to, at least in part, protect his QB?
Yes or No?
The answer is yes. Look at a passing chart. It’s obvious that Jimmy struggles mightily as a downfield passer. Does that mean this 49ers team can’t win a lot of games? No. But can they beat a team like KC, or Seattle, or Tampa Bay, who have QB’s that can win downfield?
Again, I like Jimmy and I desperately want him to be the guy. But he hasn’t been able to pass downfield since the injury. It’s hard to beat good teams in the year 2020 (and maybe even more so in 2021) paying a premium for a QB who can’t hit a receiver 25 yards downfield, and airmails one easy INT per game. The 49ers only chance to compete is playing this ultra physical style that exposes all of their skill positions to injury, and we are currently seeing the results: Mostert (injured), Coleman (injured), Wilson (injured), Deebo (injured), Kittle (was injured) …. how many times do you really want to have to turn your WR’s into RB’s and how many plays do you have to run (and all these snaps means more chances for injury) in order to win games when you have a very limited ability to strike downfield? Even on Jimmy’s one decent deep ball todasy he couldn’t hit a wide open Aiyuk in stride. Instead, Aiyuk had to show off elite ball tracking skills in order to catch what should have been an easy deep TD pass, but instead forced him OB at the 10.
Talk to me again at the end of the year, when the 49ers have no skill position players left.
I say we bench all the starters now… well our backup starters and starters starters
2nd straight blow out. Maybe these gauntlet teams aren’t all that great after all. Will find out next week.
When we stick to the formula, we can be a nightmare for teams.
Great win!
We stick to this formula, we will have no skill players left down the stretch.
So we should become a passing team? Good idea when we have a poor pass blocking line and major depth at RB and none at WR.
Great idea…..NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s a sick joke pulled by someone or something that I can’t enjoy a win without a lnjury this season. So over this crap.
Bet Deebo will be our next week in the biggest game of the season. When he didn’t need to even be out there.
Another very impressive win. Honestly, it’s hard to forecast this season as there is so much to overcome injury-wise. Nevertheless, 10 wins is still very much in play. From there we’ll just have to see.
Great game. As Romo said JG played well other than the one throw. Biggest concern is Wilson and Samuel. We really need those guys to play against the ‘Hags. I think the only way we can win next week is by scoring on virtually every drive.
I think tonight we will see Seattle’s defense get exposed. I’ll be looking for their pass rush and how good is their secondary.
Check out their OL. It seems like it’s better than in recent years.
I feel good going to seattle with Hasty as the RB…and defense …..
I just hope kshan does not over think this game….just do what u have been doing…
And if Hasty get’s hurt? A few more games of this style (very few effective downfield throws) and we won’t have any more skill position players left.
Unsustainable!
Dude, despite your attempts to place these injuries directly at JGs feet, it’s not just the offensive skill players. Have you noticed the Niners defense as of late?
I think Jimmy G. stole this guys lunch and girl friend. Why does the criticism always comes down to Jimmy’s salary?
And considering he’s not even in the top 10 any longer.
Very impressive win. Offense played physically and dominated the Patriots front all day, while the D was excellent once again in coverage and did enough in terms of getting pressure to put the QB off.
Very strange to see some posters focusing on the negatives today as there really weren’t any aside from nit picky things. The injuries sucked, but injuries happen. Hopefully Deebo’s hamstring injury is minor. And the RB room will just need to be next man up, just like it was today.
Great to see Aiyuk geeting more involved downfield today. The OL gave JG a decent pocket most of the game, which is what happens when the running game is effective. Allowed JG to hang in there for some longer developing plays to Aiyuk.
Seems like McKinnon has now been surpassed on the depth chart. But have to say, Shanahan was very smart with his running game and to go with the guy that is better on inside runs today. Belichick has the formula for stopping outside zone, so Shanahan played more through the middle with Wilson and then schemed ways to get the ball out wide on screens with the occasional outside run to a WR. Again, just a smart way to get the ball in your playmakers hands in space.
On to next weeks vs the Seahawks. The schedule is challenging ahead, but the 49ers are now playing some good football so have a chance to snatch some wins over this stretch.
Scooter,
If you can’t see a correlation of all these injuries, and this brand of football, I don’t know what to tell you. This brand of football is simply unsustainable long term, without “explosive” downfield plays.
Think about this: The 49ers created 4 TO’s, and ran 63 offensive plays today and still only scored 33 points, while managing to get 2 more important skill-position players injured in the process.
I like the idea of running Deebo and Aiyuk every now and then, but as a staple, because you can’t throw downfield? No way! It’s simply unsustainable long term, and injuries will ultimately be the result, as we are seeing.
I’ve been one of Jimmy’s strongest supporters now ever since we landed him. Unfortunately, I am losing faith by the game. Decent QB (certainly not a scrub), but not worth elite money! And you will come to the same conclusion soon enough.
Based on your belief it is amazing the Harbaugh teams were able to field a 53.
Samuel will have injuries here and there whether he gets the ball on effectively a handoff or down the field because of the way he plays. Blaming the injury on Shanahan using him as a pseudo RB is asinine. It is who Samuel is.
You are looking to find fault.
Even Harbaugh threw downfield more often than this, and he had a running QB for a lot of his tenure! But then again, he wasn’t asking his best WR’s to act like RB’s all game long.
Good luck with that! You will see Scooter, soon enough. When Deebo, Aiyuk, & Kittle, join Mostert and Coleman on IR, because Jimmy is wildly ineffective downfield, then come talk to me!
Man, you seriously need a hobby. Go relax. Never seen anyone so upset about a 33-6 win.
Yah, you occassionaly run Deebo and Aiyuk to keep the defense off balance and set up other stuff. You don’t do it 6 or 7 times a game because you can’t complete any explosive plays downfield! That’s crazy. Deebo IS NOT A RB! And neither is Aiyuk! 5 or 6 times a game is TOO MUCH, and injuries will result!
It’s a g_d d_mn passing league for crying out loud!, and if your $30+ million a year QB can’t do it consistently, you find one that can! Even Tannahill has developed into a superior downfield passer than Jimmy, and Wilson … oh geesh, he makes Jimmy look like an amateur downfield passer.
If you guys really think this is sustainable, you are in for an eye opener.
And you’re really going to see the reality next year when your paying Jimmy as an elite QB when he isn’t, and can’t afford any other players around him because the salary cap is so low. You think the attrition is bad this year? OMG, just wait until the salary cap goes down!
Mark your calendars ….. I’ve officially jumped off the Jimmy G. hype train!
49,
If Deebo and Aiyuk can get positive yrds on runs, I’m going to run the same play until the defense can stop them. It comes down to a game of contrition and using a game plan that is successful.
Shanahan used a perfect game plan against arguably the greatest head coach of all time. Belichick was out coached and completely over matched by Shanahan and the ascending 49ers.
Hate that Deebo pulled up, but it’s football. One thing that has been a constant this season is the theme “next man up.”
Shanahan will adjust to player losses and simply find a way.
That’s what good coaches do!
This was the best game plan I’ve seen Shanny come up with to date.
I agree Razor, and that comes a week after another incredible game plan. But let’s get real. Because of Jimmy’s ineffective downfield passing, Kyle has been forced to turn this offense into mostly very short passes, most of which are behind the LOS, and he’s asking his best WRs to take punishment like his RB’s. Not only that, it’s an ultra-physical brand of football on every single play.
It’s simply unsustainable. You will see, this is an UNSUSTAINABLE brand of football, in the year 2020! They will have no skill players left before we even get to December.
So what’s your explanation for all the injuries the defense has suffered?
Don’t you know it Jimmy’s fault?
Yeah, it’s one thing to blame a QB for a loss, now he’s being blamed for team injuries? ?
Hah, I’m all for physical football, believe me. But a joke of a playing surface in New York cost our defense dearly.
What has changed on offense? Kyle has decided the best way to “protect” his “franchise QB” (how’s that for a oxymoron?) is by utilizing his best WR’s as RB’s and asking his elite TE to block downfield 40 times a game, all because he clearly doesn’t trust his QB, nor should he. Every single week Jimmy air balls a 20 yard pass, at least once, usually multiple times. Those are the throws that usually get picked, just like we saw again today. And then Aiyuk is running free down the sideline and rather than throwing it up and letting him run under it for an easy TD, Jimmy throws the ball towards the sideline, forcing Aiyuk OB after he luckily did a beautiful job at tracking the ball.
Good luck with that guys.
Hold that thought, and talk to me again in early December. We’ll see who got it right.
By the way guys, I don’t know about you, but I grew up watching every game Joe Montana and Steve Young played …. every single one. I think I know a good QB when I see one.
Joe had a beautiful deep ball and Steve, well, he eventually developed a beautiful one as well. When will Jimmy? I am starting to think NEVER! Before the injury I thought yah, Jimmy is THE GUY! These days (post injury), Jimmy is an $10-$15 Million a year QB TOPS! And if Jimmy can’t get this fixed soon, then Kyle is better off drafting a replacement at this point, IMO.
I think your expectations are a little exaggerated.
When the game plan and the execution of it results in a win, it’s only fitting you tip your hat to the coach and the players and say good job.
Now let’s see what happens next game.
Prime …. it’s unsustainable. Geesh! I like winning like the rest of us. In fact, I love it. But not at this kind of cost of all of our best skill players. Do you really think Kittle is going to hold up having to block downfield 40+ times a game? And let’s face it, the Patriots are a shell of their former selves.
If you haven’t noticed Jimmy’s downfield passing has actually regressed, I don’t know what to tell you. And if you think we can go deep into the postseason again this season by playing this brand of “protect the franchise QB” style football, in 2020, well …… that’s on you!
All of the advanced analytics, and I mean ALL of it, tells us one thing!
The NFL these days, is a passing league!
That’s how you win games. Not by turning your best WR’s into RB’s because you have to protect your QB! Not in the NFC West! Not if you want to beat Seattle (and even Arizona).
Sorry, but the data is very clear on this!
“I like winning like the rest of us. In fact, I love it.”
Clearly. Just not when they do it in a fashion that you find unappealing.
I like winning championships Scooter, not beating a shell of a team, even if that team is NE.
I thought the 49ers were about championships? That used to be the bar! Apparently, nowadays it’s all about making excuses for having to protect the “franchise” QB, and the toll that’s taking on the 4-3 49ERS?
Like I said, I’ll get back to you in December, and we’ll find out then if you are still making excuses for Jimmy. I’m guessing you will see the light at some point. At least I would hope.
According to my calculations the 49ers won today. Played complimentary football and stayed in the playoff race.
49, weren’t you calling me “unfaithful” 3 weeks ago?
Oh my have you changed your tune in such a short 3 weeks.
Meh, I’m not deluding myself about what JG is. He has limitations.
But I’m also not deluding myself about what Shanahan’s vision for the offense is like you are. He wants to run. He wants to get the ball in his playmakers hands in space and let them create.
Yah, but I don’t think this is a sustainable winning strategy, Prime. What am I supposed to do, ignore that?
Jimmy has regressed as a downfield passer. Everyone knows that, especially Kyle. The Niners aren’t going to win a championship with this style, and it starts, and stops, with Jimmy G. IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE!
So yah, I am calling him out! It’s time! It’s a passing league. I like ball control, but you have to be consistent as a downfield passer if you want to win a championship.
So, until he fixes this lethal problem, I am calling Jimmy out. And I’m telling Kyle …. get the downfield passing game fixed, or find someone else who will!
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by this style?
You want more passes thrown per game? More than 20 yards in length? Can you be more specific with this “style” ?
What I mean by style?
Relying on using your best WR’s as RB’s, mostly to protect your QB, because you don’t trust his downfield passing. That’s what I mean. And using your elite TE more as a blocker, than receiver, because again, you don’t trust your QB as a downfield passer.
Against some of the league’s better passing QB’s (not Goff or a washed up Newton).
Analytics says it definitely won’t, and it didn’t work in the Super Bowl, despite having an elite defense.
How long are Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle going to last taking this kind of punishment?
Can you even win a world championship as a run first offense that doesn’t trust their QB as a downfield passer? Again, if you believe in analytics, the answer is NO! This isn’t the 2000’s anymore.
I agree with you to a degree. You have to be able to stretch the field and have a more dynamic down field passing game to win it all.
I don’t think that Jimmy G is incapable of this. I think he is more than capable to take his shots if allowed to.
I do believe that Shanny doesn’t trust his personnel to be and at some point, it better evolve with maybe Aiuyuk.
I see your point now but I think it will come in time as this offense finds its identity more throughout this year.
Blair, Ansah, Bosa, Ford, Nzeocha, Sherman, Thomas, Jones, K’Waun Williams, Tartt, Ward, Harris all got their injuries through natural attrition or meadowlands turf. While Moseley, Deebo and Wilson Jr. got theirs due to KS “protect the QB” game plans. Got it.
Dude, stop it, you are embarrassing yourself.
^^^^ Moseley=Mostert
Are you guys really telling me you like the idea of Deebo, at 208 lbs, and Aiyuk, at 205 lbs, making a living taking on 250 lbs LB’s and 295 lbs DL’s at full speed, and having your Superstar TE blocking downfield 40 times a game? All to protect your $30M QB? You really think that’s sustainable in a primarily passing league? When all the advanced analytical data says the opposite?
Get outa here! DREAM ON!
How often are the WRs actually taking on LBs and DL? Very rarely. They are being schemed to get the ball in space and are usually taking on DBs.
This is Shanahan’s offense. He drafted athletes that are great with ball in hand for a reason. He wants to run an offense that looks a lot like this, regardless of who the QB is. Yes, he wants to also hit some deep plays, usually off play action, and JG has not been good in that regard. But you also need an OL that can hold up for those longer developing plays and so far this year they have also struggled in that regard. It also helps if your QB doesn’t have a bad ankle.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they move on from JG in the next year or two, but if you genuinely think this style of offense is being played because of JG you haven’t been paying attention to what Shanahan has been building.
Seriously Scooter?? 300 lbs DL’s not as much, but I’ve seen Deebo take LB’s on at full speed, at least 6 times since he returned from a broken foot. At least! He’s giving up 40-45 lbs., same with Aiyuk.
You do understand how physics works, right? Two bodies of mass in motion, one larger than the other?
Like I said, have those plays in your arsenal and use them occasionally, that’s what they are there for, but you can’t afford to lean on it heavily simply to protect your QB. That aint gonna work. Those guys are too valuable and they are going to get hurt, it’s basic physics. And Kittle is killing himself for this run game (all to protect the QB) when he should be one of the league’s leading receivers. That’s taking a toll as well!
I’ll say it one more time …. It’s UNSUSTAINABLE! And analytics says it’s also probably not going to win you a championship in 2020 or beyond.
You simply have to be efficient passing downfield!
And, BTW, was pass protection bad today when Jimmy, once again, air-balled a fairly routine pass (for another easy INT), and also lead a wide open Aiyuk out of bounds on what should have been a sure TD?? Come on Scooter, his mechanics are relatively sloppy, even a blind man can can see that! Maybe the knee brace is a problem, I don’t exactly know, but something is not right with Jimmy’s downfield passing attack, which is why Kyle is having to protect him. He protected him in the postseason last year, and now he’s having to do it again. You have to know that Kyle’s knows this,and you are right, he’s going to be replaced if he doesn’t get it figured out. Why? Because this is simply unsustainable. You can’t afford to pay your QB $30+, if he can’t throw the ball consistently downfield.
Let me ask you this one question Scooter …… Is Jimmy the same guy post ACL tear?
Be honest.
Is this the same Jimmy G. who was absolutely balling out in 2017 and quickly earned a big contract?
I say NO, he’s clearly not. For whatever reason, whether it’s confidence, whether it’s the knee or the brace (I happen to think the brace might be affecting his mechanics, and certainly his mobility), or a combination of things. Whatever it is that is holding him back, it needs to change. The 2017 version of Jimmy G. was elite. He was easily mobile enough. He was extremely accurate with short and especially MID-RANGE passes. And he was confident.
But you have to admit, Scooter, that’s not the guy we’ve been watching since he returned from his injury.
Urgh. Again, this is Shanahan’s vision for the offense. His vision for what Deebo will do in this offense. He used Deebo a lot the same way in the second half of last season. If you don’t like it, blame Shanahan, not JG. And most of those plays are not having him run into the teeth of the D – they are mostly getting him on the perimeter against DBs.
Maybe they are using it a little more often atm than Shanahan would like, but there are many reasons for it. The RB room is injured. The OL is struggling in pass pro. JG has a bum ankle. Even so, these aren’t gadget plays, they are a staple of Shanahan’s offense that he would be using regardless. He wants to be running the ball as much or more than passing it, he has said so himself, and part of that rushing attack is about getting the ball to his playmakers.
Now, with that all said, one thing I do agree with you about is that JG is struggling throwing the ball downfield. The OL and his ankle are probably part of that problem, but regardless he does need to improve or he won’t be the QB here long term.
Sorry Scooter, but I totally disagree. Yes, he drafted both Deebo and Aiyuk, in part, because they have this ability. Having these plays in your arsenal changes the way teams have to prepare for you.
That’s not the same as having to lean heavily on these plays because you don’t trust your QB. In 2020, you pass to set up the runs, not vice versa. Even Kyle would do this if he thought he could trust his QB to do so. That’s what he did in his record setting year in Atlanta. That’s clearly not what is happening now. George Kittle should be getting 100 yards a game as a receiver. Instead, he’s beating his body up in the run game (overused as a blocker), because again, Kyle is afraid to open up the mid-range passing attack, because he is having to protect his $30M QB.
These plays are great as a compliment to the mid-range passing game, not as an substitute.
It’s a passing league. The analytics are very clear on this. You stand a much better chance at winning if you can pass the ball efficiently. Running heavily does not equate to winning against good teams, and using smallish WR’s as RB’s more than a couple-few times a game, is not sustainable. And using perhaps the best receiving TE in the league primarily as a blocker, just to protect your QB, is not a sustainable winning formula.
You must think Shanahan has been a bald-faced liar throughout his time with the 49ers then, because he repeatedly stresses the importance and desire to run the ball and that his entire passing game is built off the run. But hey, good for you for knowing better.
JG was hitting those mid range passes last season and in the first half against the Jets. Since then he has been playing with a bad ankle, and the OL has repeatedly shown they struggle to hold up consistently on longer developing plays after disastrous pass blocking efforts in back to back weeks against the Eagles and Dolphins. If Shanahan is protecting JG it is as much to do with those circumstances as anything else, imo.
Jimmy has had one really good half as a passer this year, against the lowly Jets.
As for Kyle, yes, he wants to run the ball as much as any team. No doubt. He also knows that turnovers are a killer. He knows that if he can establish a running game, he is also likely to limit turnovers, and stand a chance to be competitive in most games. But no, I don’t think what we’ve seen the last couple weeks is his vision. I don’t think he feels like he can beat the better teams without a confident mid range passing attack. And the analytics are clear on this (although Kyle is clearly not big on analytics). He needs to be able to open this offense up without having Jimmy turn the ball over with poor passes like we saw again today. He cannot continue to protect Jimmy G. and win a Super Bowl. Not against the good teams.
Not against Seattle this year.
Not against Tampa.
Not against New Orleans.
And now we have to lean on a rookie RB, and will be without our #1 WR … to go along with all of the other injuries … with a QB who has no confidence as a downfield passer …. against the Seahawks, in the biggest game of the season.
Great plan!
Sounds like a real winner, Scooter.
Joy!
As I said earlier, you need a hobby. The most unhappy person after a 33-6 win I have ever seen. Go have a snickers.
Yes, next week will be tough with yet again more guys out injured. Injuries suck. But the idea the injuries are happening because of JG is asinine.
The good news? The Seahawks pass rush has been awful this year. That means the OL might have a chance to hold up in pass pro and give JG some time for some of those downfield passes to develop.
We’ll just have to disagree then. Obviously most of these injuries have nothing to do with the QB. But, you can’t risk your best WR’s health by consistently sending them full speed at LB’s, because they will eventually get hurt, banged up. I don’t know why that’s a hard concept to understand. WR’s aren’t RB’s. You use those plays occasionally, to set other stuff up, and break off the occasional big plays, but you don’t do it more than a few times a game, not with your best downfield receivers, because they will get hurt, like Deebo did today. It’s excessive, and it’s excessive because he doesn’t trust Jimmy.
I want Jimmy to be the 49ers QB for now, and into the future. I love his personality and leadership. I love his toughness and grit. In some ways, as funny as this sounds, I’d like to be him. I want to believe Jimmy is still the guy. I had high hopes. I’m simply losing faith on a weekly basis, because Kyle did have to protect him at times last season, and I can clearly see some regression this season. Not just because of the OL, because it’s happening from clean pockets. Not just his ankle either.
The thing is …. as an athlete, if you aren’t getting better, you’re getting worse. Russell Wilson is getting better. Heck, Kyler Murray is getting better. Ryan Tannahill is getting better. Patrick Mahomes is getting better. Justin Herbert is getting better. Our QB sadly seems to be getting worse.
Well Scooter, were going to find out over the next few weeks, because Wilson is joining Mostert on IR, and Deebo may be right behind him, just as our schedule gets tough. Kyle isn’t going to be able to continue to protect Jimmy as a game manager any longer. It’s sink or swim time for Jimmy starting now. So, we’ll know soon enough if I am right about him.
For the record … I hope I am wrong.
Actually, I think Jimmy looked a lot better today.
He was 7 of 9 for passes that traveled over 10 yards in the air and he was willing to throw that ball down the field. I only fault him for the 1 int , my only quibble on the hail mary was, that I think he needs to try and put that ball in the end zone.
As to the swing passes to the wr’s on the edge which they ran about 9 or 10 times, they don’t really expose your wide receivers to linebackers, the forward touch pitches, and handoffs to the wr’s will, but they ran about those 3 to 4 times today.
That said, if you aren’t using Deebo as a wr/rb then he was over drafted. As a wr only, he’s ok, a mid to low end number 2. He will eat up zones, and get yac yards, but he struggles to separate in press man or make contested caches. Using him in this manner makes it nearly impossible to eliminate him with press man and makes him a low end 1.
As to the amount invested in Jimmy that’s the going rate. There are only a handful of starting qb’s in that sub 15 mil range that are not on rookie deals; Bridgewater, Taylor, Foles, Dalton, Fitzpatrick, do you really want to be that ball park?
Hey Shoup, thanks for weighing in.
Yah, he was 7-9 on those passes, but still not particularly accurate. Juice had to make a diving catch on what should have been a relatively easy pass & catch, and the deep completion to Aiyuk would have been an easy TD with a decent pass. Jimmy may as well have hended the ball to the Patriots FS on his first INT, which he threw completely flatt footed, and both of Jimmy’s “deep” balls were innacurate, ultimately leading Aiyuk OB instead of towards the endzone on one, and woefully underthrowing his intended target on the other.
I re-watched the game last after I finished posting on here, just to make sure I am not being to tough on Jimmy.
A few obvervations:
The bad:
– Jimmy makes flat footed throws for absolutely no reason far too often. His first INT was a result of poor mechanics, plain and simple.
– The same goes for his hips. Far too often I see Jimmy failing to rotate his hips properly, which makes it difficult to accurately drive the ball downfield.
– Prior to his injury, Jimmy consistently threw gorgeous spirals. Nowadays, he’s far less consistent, which leads his passes to flutter, sail, dip and nosedive. It’s glaringly obvious that something has changed in terms of his mechanics, and as a result, his accuracy has suffered because he no longer throws a beautiful football on a regular basis.
The good:
– Jimmy clearly has full command of this offense. He was very decisive yesterday, and generally made good decisions with the ball.
– He’s tough as nails. He’s clearly a baller, and his teammates definitely have great respect for him.
– He’s humble, and never deflects blame or ponts fingers. He’s been a model teammate from day 1.
Let me sum up my frustrations. Jimmy has a lot of the outstanding qualities you look for in a franchise QB. That said, he still hasn’t returned to Pre-knee reconstruction form and Kyle is clearly trying to take as much of the pressure off of his QB because Kyle knows that Jimmy is inconsistent on passes 15 or more yards down the field. Kyle understands the correlation between turnovers, and winning or losing, do because of Jimmy’s inconsistency as a downfield passer, he’s compensated with a scheme that, IMO, is not explosive enough to win a championship. I use last season’s Super Bowl as an example – if your defense is solid, and you can run the ball and control the clock, you can win a lot of games. But …. and the analytics are clear on this point: in today’s NFL, there will always come a time when you have to be efficient as a downfield passer. All of the rule changes over the years have The rules have favored the passing game and in the big games, the team that can pass the ball with consistency and effieceny will ultimately have the advantage, and stand a much better chance at winning football game. Until Jimmy corrects this one and only glaring weakness, the 49ers will always be fighting an uphill battle VS the top passing teams in the league. And if Jimmy can’t get this corrected, the 49ers would be better off with a game-managing QB on a rookie contract, in order to utilize their salary cap in the most advantageous way.
I hope Jimmy can figure this thing out because other than the injuries, it’s the only thing holding this team back from greatness.
That’s a good, honest, accurate post 49. I will add, maybe Jimmy is still a work in progress and with Aiuyuk, the down field passing game will evolve later in the season. At least we are taking more shots downfield.
FFS, we’ve already seen that outcome with CJB and Mullens. .333 ball. That is what you are calling for? You can’t be serious.
“Just metriculate the ball down the field, baby!”
Hank Stram
In response to your 4:54.
And matriculate with an advanced degree in kick @ss :)
Great game. KS was playing chess, and BB only had checkers.
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Good win, but the Patriots were very depleted, more so than the Niners.
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I bet BB rues the day he traded away JG.
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It was nice to see them play NINER DEFENSE.
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Bring on the Seahawks. Many have wondered if the Niners were worrying about having to play so many winning teams the next 5 games, but the other teams should become apprehensive , worrying about the Niners.
No way they were more depleted.
Gee, they lost Brady, and you think they are a SB team? They also lost 8 players due to opting out, including Hightower and Chung. Cam has played poorly, possibly due to the after effects of Covid 19, and Sony Michel does have Covid 19.
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looking at the Pats Pulpit, they have been lamenting all of their injuries. Other than Edelman, the Pats do not have a deep talented receiver roster. They were grasping at straws, elevating 2 PS players, so they do not have a deep talented SB squad anymore.
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Sure, the Niners have taken some punches in the gut, with injuries to Bosa, Ford and Sherman. However, JL has assembled a team with lots of depth. Their replacements have aided in putting a humiliating loss on a storied championship franchise. This is 2 games in a row where the Pats have not scored a TD.
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This game was like the Giants game. Both teams just did not match up well to the Niners’ SB talent. Then we have games like the Dolphins and Eagles, that have better rosters. KS now must beat formidable opponents, with good rosters and successful coaching. BB is a genius coach, but he just does not have the horses to win.
More depleted than the Niners? What a moron!
The Niners have the most players on IR than any other team in the NFL idiot!
NE is depleted, and they had a couple of their best players opt out. But no, they aren’t as depleted as SF. The 2020 Niners are, BY FAR, the most depleted roster in the NFL.
Man, it kills me watching Wilson and Murray dropping dimes! Imagine Kyle with a proficient downfield passer. Oh that’s right, Matt Ryan set records!
Only a moron would think that a totally depleted team could deliver a humiliating defeat to a recent SB winner.
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Next man up. I would consider the Niners to be a dominant team, not a depleted team, especially after today’s contest. Look at the disparity in the time of possession.
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Of course, you were surmising about other teams dropping a 40 burger on the Niners, so you are a fair weather fan.
Nov.4th pal. You can’t make up or change what you predicted.
I truly believed before the game that the Niners could gash the Patriots with the run. They responded with 197 yards.
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However, when I am wrong, I will admit it. I thought that they should give Hasty at least 10 snaps. They only let him run 9 times. I was wrong,
Go Dodgers!
Duck the Fodgers!
Sometimes the best defense is a dominating offense.
4 picks helps, too.
Sure did.
Feels great.
1. Injuries continue to pile up. High ankle sprain seems to be our achilles (wilson).
2. Good game for Jimmy. 1 dumb pick.
3. Strong game from the O line. Grasu might be here to stay.
4. Deebo is the ultimate swiss army knife. Hopefully his injury is minor. If we are dominating into the 4th perhaps we should sit some of our star players.
5. Warner and Greenlaw top 5 LB tandem. Great contain on Cam. 5 rushes 19 yards.
6. Moore should start at S.
7. I was hoping Kevin White would see a few targets. He is an athletic freak.
8. Cyprien was flying all over the field on Special Teams. I dont have the data at my fingertips but I’ll bet our special teams is ranked top 10 in return yards allowed.
9. At Seattle next Sunday followed by the Packers at home on Thursday.
“High ankle sprain is our Achilles”— sounds like you’re channeling Yogi Berra. :)
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By the way Rollo, Jimmy’s second INT wasn’t exactly a good pass either. He threw the pass so short, it never had a chance to get over the defender. Hail Mary time or not, that was still a lousy looking deep pass, like the majority of Jimmy’s are these days!
It was not a perfect pass. It was necessary for Aiyuk to exhibit some athleticism. I have seen Rothlesberger throw balls like that all day and AB come down with it. For your viewing pleasure remember this one from the Superbowl. Doesn’t get much better. The PI call was BS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIyuJbMcWo
I wish to commend Saleh. He had a good game plan. They did not over rush and allow Cam to break containment. They played disciplined and in control. They also delivered some jarring tackles. Timing is everything. Greenlaw timed his blitz so he came in untouched.
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They rattled Cam so he made mistakes. I hope Saleh will have a good game plan against Russell Wilson, because he is way better than Cam.
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Yes, JG did have 2 picks, and I am sure Grant will focus on and dissect them. I think on the first one, the ball slipped out of his hand, and on the second one, I almost think it was a safety, since he caught it on the 2 yard line, and was tackled in the end zone. I am just glad they went bold and tried a Hail Mary pass, with no time left.
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/gameday/5-burning-49ers-questions-for-week-7-answered
49, JG is just fine. He does not have to be superman, so he played within his capabilities, to help put a beat down on his former team.
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Blaming JG for injuries is specious. I am glad he finally looks fully recovered from his ACL, but still want him to wear that protective brace.
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You really need to chill about Jimmy. He is accurate, and made not only throws in to tight windows, he threaded the needle a couple times.
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He was accurate in his bomb to Aiyuk, and he leads the receiver so he can run after the catch.
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JG just took what the defense gave him, so I am happy as a clam over his play last game. He is a leader, who makes other players better.
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I wish I did not have to remind you, but you are the guy who touted Connor Cook, so maybe your QB assessment skills are not scintillating.
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Personally, I think JG is way better than Connor Cook.;p
Once again bringing up things that people have said in the past and holding it to them.
Well big mouth, get ready for yours Nov.4th.
PT- Kaep took the league by storm.
I know. Nov.4th we will see if your prediction comes true OR if you have egg on your face.
Hey Seb, for the last time, I never said he was going to be great. I said he was likely worth a 3rd round pick. At least I wasn’t touting your guy – Kevin “wild arm” Hogan. :)
Cheers!
Well, I remember those long tomes written extolling Connor Cook, but I never wrote any treatises a tenth as long about Hogan. ;p
Next up from PS — Austin Walter?
We might not have a choice.
McKinnon just doesn’t look right.
When a cart comes out to take you to the locker room, that can’t be good for Wilson JR.
Coleman is expected back but not sure when so that leaves Hasty as the only healthy back.
Walter was in last TC and I think he played in some preseason games. He’s familiar with the offense.
What the hell is going on with all the lower leg soft tissue injuries? Not sure how this compares to other teams but that sure is a ton of injuries in the same area. I ask again: What is the job of Ben Peterson?
Richie James Ankle
Kwon Alexander Ankle
Jeff Wilson Ankle
Raheem Mostert Ankle
Richard Sherman Calf
Ben Garland Calf
Jaquiski Tartt Groin
Deebo Samuel Hamstring
Mark Nzeocha Quadriceps
Jimmie Ward Quadriceps
Ezekiel Ansah Biceps
Tavon Austin Knee
Tevin Coleman Knee
Jordan Reed Knee
K’Waun Williams Knee – ACL
Solomon Thomas Knee – ACL
Nick Bosa Knee – ACL
Jullian Taylor Knee – ACL
Jalen Hurd Knee – ACL
Ronald Blair Knee – ACL
Dee Ford Neck
Hi Guys. I just wanted to point out that the 49ers rushed for 198 yards. That is 2 yards short of what I had predicted. I am pleased that I am able to offer all of you my expertise regarding the 49ers, sports and other world matters. No thanks necessary.
Love,
Bruce
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Shoup says: October 24, 2020 at 1:46 am
Hate to say it but I’m picking the Pats.
A Cross country trip against a coach that was able to lock down the Bill Walsh led 49ers and knows every detail about our starting QB, that is already a bad combo.Throw in the fact that SF will have a new (really bad) center making the line calls, our most explosive runner out and both safeties missing. I think 1st team to 17 wins and I just hope Jimmy survives and doesn’t see ghosts.
BruceLee says: October 24, 2020 at 10:35 am
I’m proud to say that I am picking the 49ers. Their front 7 is undersized. We should rush for a combined 200 yards.
Good prediction,
Like I said earlier, I was completely wrong on this game… and I couldn’t be happier about it.
Good call. I also truly believed the Niners would gash them.
One of the plays that Jimmy took a lot of heat on was the sideline pass to Aiyuk so I wanted to take a closer look at it. Originally I thought it was just a really bad pass… but upon further review it really wasn’t that bad.
I changed my mind on this because when you look at the film Jimmy is already in his throwing motion before the receiver is uncovered in the switch screwup by New England. And while it is obvious that Aiyuk will break open based on the way the deeper corner plays it, what would not be obvious to Jimmy is where the deep safety was at this point. So the safer deep throw is to lead him along the sideline. Additionally, while it looks like Jimmy gave BA no room to work with, that ball was a good 2 to 2.5 yards in bound when Aiyuk caught it, it was his momentum carried him sharply out of bounds… It makes me wonder if he wasn’t a little bit late in tracking that ball.
So while I originally thought it was a bad throw I would now just call it a decent, safe throw.
49, I can see your concerns, but they are not worrisome. Looking at the stats, JG threw 25 times for 277 yards. Most fans would be happy with that.
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The Niners had 26 first downs. 13 on the ground, and 13 through the air. That is a nice balance.
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So no, the Niners are not a run only team. JG did throw down field in order to make first downs.
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Sure, if a team is only a running team, defenses can stack the box and game plan to stop that. Just like if a team is only a passing team, and the defense uses 6 DBs. Fortunately, the Niners have balance, so a defense must game plan to have to stop both the pass or the run. The key may be to pass when they expect run, or run when they expect the pass.
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JG and the Niners are just fine, and you should not nit pick after a dominant blow out win. If George Kittle is happy blocking, and delivers pancake blocks, that is a good thing. He does not whine about not getting passes, so if he is happy, I am happy.
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Also, most coaches would drool over an offense that gains almost 200 yards on the ground. You really need to chill, dude.
Can I raise a Moron Alert ? for my own post?
Catfish, you are trying too hard.
Running the ball has not lost its beauty on this fan. There is nothing like a running game that takes the heart out of the opposing team. That was another masterful game plan by Shanny and I hope he continues to pound the rock.
Ball control will be the name of the game against the Hawks. A win here puts the Niners right back in the chase for the division crown.
Winning at Seattle with the depleted roster we’re currently playing with would be huge. Not sure it can be done. I think Verrett can handle Lockett but without Sherman, I don’t know who’s gonna cover Metcalf. Moseley can’t do it….
The key to beating the Hawks with a depleted roster is keeping the ball out of Wilson’s hand. If they can run the ball the Niners have a real good chance to pull this off. Hawks are over rated and would be a nothing team without Wilson. Keep the faith Razor we got this one in the bag, the Niners travel well, its the home games that have me worried.
I am not too worried. Seahawks do not have a ferocious pass rush, and their run defense is not stout.
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Russell Wilson got hammered last game, so he may be leery of getting sacked, and may make more bad throws.
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The Seahawks were lucky for many of their previous wins, but it sure looked like their luck has run out.
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If the Niners can shut down RW’s passing offense, game over.
Who’s gonna cover Metcalf? Both Verrett and Moseley are too small. Witherspoon doesn’t have the mindset. If Sherman can’t go, I’d consider matching up Moore on him….
Bracket him with Greenlaw and Moore/Harris. Take your chances with Lockett one on one.
My concern is the running game. We are left with a wonky Mickinnon and Hasty. Deebo also probably out.
Is Sherm eligible to return?
As long as we have Bobby Turner I don’t worry about the running game.
I come out with Verrett on Lockett at all times. I like that matchup. Moseley gets Moore over the top at all times on Metcalf.
Sherm was scheduled to be back for this game but he had a “setback”. Doubt he plays.
Who is gonna run the ball with the speed and ferociousness like Wilson and Mostert?
I agree. I think Hasty is good enough, with McKinnon.
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Maybe they should use Juice more, like they did with Roger Craig and Tom Rathman.
Mckinnon looks gimpy. Like your Nov.4th prediction!
Wilson’s deep ball is shockingly accurate. Do you think that the Niners will play some version of Cover 2 keeping everything in front of the DBs? Metcalfe is a handful and can’t rely on a safety always available to bracket him with the CB. I can see the Seahawks passing on first downs out a run look. The key, IMO., is whether the front 7 can play with discipline and not break down when Wilson runs around. Wonder if Chris Carson’s foot sprain will keep him out next week which will make it slightly easier for Niners to control the run game without a box safety.
Its another great NFC WEST matchup. That offense is so predicated on making broken plays into explosive plays. It will be up to Saleh to get his guys to stay disciplined and keep everything in front of them.
Also, how will Saleh play a scrambling mobile QB?
On offense, we need that speed/gasher type of runner. Hasty is shifty but he lacks the power in between the tackles.
I think Hasty has power. Look at his lower body and the way he finishes runs.
Looks like he wants dance and finesse his way to yardage.
I think Jeff Wilson Jr. might be the best multi-purpose back we have.
Any word on his availability Sunday?
Lol, dude got carted off. Doubt we see him for 4-6 weeks.
The first game against SEA last year, they killed us time and again with little flare passes to the outside that Saleh never adjusted for. With all the work no doubt going into preventing RW’s moon shots, I hope that detail is not overlooked.
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This win goes to Shanahan and the entire coaching staff.
Yesterday’s game was reminiscent of the dominant brand of football we saw during last year’s SB run. All facets of the team were in sync.
The Patriots are a shell of what they once were, but dominating a Belichick led team the way they did, speaks volumes.
The aftermath of yesterday’s win puts us in the playoffs picture and sends a harsh reality to opposing teams : The 49ers are back! Not only that, by the end of the season we will get better with many of our injured players coming back.
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/san-francisco-49ers-week-7-monday-musings
The Miami loss absolutely was due to Saleh’s bone headed decision to leave an overwhelmed PS CB out on an island. Saleh’s a rah-rah guy no doubt, but care to do some deep dives into his in-game adjustments?
What does someone like, say, George Kittle have to say about that?
Can’t put a price on an intangible like that. You’ve seen the difference in the entire team when Jimmy’s played and when he hasn’t, just by going on the W-L records.
On Saleh, go look at his adjustments in the second Rams game last year. In 5 games the defense has given up more than 18 points twice.
Meh. Garoppolo was mediocre week 1, stunk against Miami, and Shanahan’s asking him to do next to nothing. But yes, he’s the best they’ve got for now.
It’s funny we said the same thing about Alex Smith. Then we switched to a more “dynamic” QB and still couldn’t win.
It’s never going to be good enough in SF. Thanks a lot Joe Montana and Steve Young.
Yeah. I was fine with Smith.
If Shanahan can keep manufacturing throws that are essentially just long handoffs the 49ers will be fine with what they have.
Here’s the first pass play on Sunday, it’s a completion but Garoppolo isn’t even reading the defense. This is a 7 yard gain that should have been 15-20. This stuff is out there all game long.
https://twitter.com/jackhammer_nfl/status/1320810835384528896?s=21
No Samuel for the next two weeks. Some of those short passes that have been so good just went bye bye.
I think Shanny will come up with one of his many genius plans.
I’m thinking to beat Seattle we are gonna see a lot of Kittle, Dwelley, and Juice in the pass game.
Seattle LB’s can’t cover.
Gonna be tough to top the last plan.
Be a huge bonus to get Kwaun back this week as he has been exceptional against Lockett. Then you can double up Metcalfe and now their running game has been decimated with injuries.
This is a game where Kittle, Juice, Dwelley can get off.
This game is going to be a huge!
Is Jordan Reed due back this week?
No.
Reed is 2-4 weeks out
“On Saleh, go look at his adjustments in the second Rams game last year. In 5 games the defense has given up more than 18 points twice.”
Yeah, go look at the adjustments he made in the Super Bowl. Zilch, nada, niente, keine, etc.
If the defensive game plan is okay from the get go, then fine. But if an adjustment is required during the game, don’t hold your breath.
I thought I did see Saleh take me and Scooters advice by incorporating a spy against Newton.
That was part of the original game plan, wasn’t it?
I imagine. I think Saleh is slow to adjust in game. Belichick is not.
What adjustment was necessary in the Super Bowl? The defense held KC to 10 points through the first 52;30 of the game. Then they had a blown coverage by Moseley and Sherman got burned.
Shoot, the defense got a pick early in the 4th, but the offense could only muster 1 first down, and then after the Chiefs score to make it 20-17 the offense only runs 4 plays on the next possession.
You cannot be serious, Hammer. Saleh was in cover 3 every time Mahomie was Undercenter, and quarters coverage every time he was in shotgun. He might as well have sent his defensive game plan via text to Mahomie’s cell phone….
Regardless of the coverage that was called, Mosley blew his responsibility, and Sherman got beat in man. Doesn’t change any of what I just wrote.
Regardless of what coverage your in? Are you serious?
The predictability of his calls last year was the reason teams exploited him late in the year and especially in the SB!
Yea, you gotta mix $hit up because if a dumbass like myself can figure it out, you can bet your statistician’s ass Mahomie will…and he did!
And this comment is just wrong anyway. There are a number of times that they have 2 safeties deep but aren’t in quarters, and there’s times when Mahomes is in the gun and they don’t even have 2 safeties deep.
The PI on Moore 3 plays after Moseley blows coverage is Cover 1 with Mahomes in the gun.
The deep ball that Sherman gets burned deep in is Cover 1 with a blitz by Williams and Mahomes is in the gun.
At least try to be accurate with your comments.
“They were playing this kind of robber coverage all game long where the safety was coming down and kind of robbing all our deep cross routes, and we had a good play call on it where we had (Travis) Kelce do a little stutter deep cross. We had Tyreek getting one-on-one with that safety, but the biggest thing was we needed really good protection.”
They were in cover 3 100% of the time Mahomie was Undercenter.
As for your proud proclamation that Saleh’s defense held them to only 10 points, those 2 int’s are the reason because the Chiefs were moving the ball like they had all season long.
Your bitchin about my quarters comment? Ha! So what if Saleh changed depending on the receiver distribution. He called solo when there were 3 wr’s on one side and one wr on the other. Whoopitydoo! Still quarters.
On the deep ball to Hill, Moseley blew it by following the in route instead of staying deep, had he done his responsibility correctly he would have been in position to make a play on the ball. What makes that play worse is that Warner has that in route covered up.
Regarding the “robber” part of that quote, that’s not what they are doing. Anytime you have 2 safties deep against 3×1 sets that safety opposite the 3 receiver side is keying on the #3 receiver, in this case it’s Kelce. Ward does his job of staying over the top of Hill, but Moseley gets caught cheating.
If you want to talk ball I’m here for it. Except for 3-4 today. Have a film breakdown show to do.
Reid ran 9 1st down plays from a 3 by 1 gun and Saleh called solo on every Eucking one of ’em. Are you kidding me??????? C’mon man! Don’t patronize me with your, “if you wanna talk ball” crap if you’re not gonna keep it real….
Cool. The play that you just quoted was on 3rd down and the pass to Watkins was on second down.
This back and forth started with you writing “Saleh was in cover 3 every time Mahomie was Undercenter, and quarters coverage every time he was in shotgun” and I’ve already proven you wrong on at least 2 instances in the 4th quarter alone.
Wrong.
You asked a question and I answered it.
You answered it with a statement that was incorrect and have tried to back that incorrect statement up with more stuff that’s incorrect.
Saleh’s proclivities were so obvious that even Joe Biden could’ve diagnosed them, and that’s exactly what got the 49ers beat….
Everything that you’ve said in this conversation is as accurate as Garoppolo’s throw to Sanders on the deep post in the 4th quarter.
Save your political garbage for someone else.
If the Niners struggle down the stretch, I could easily see the Niners parting ways with Saleh and hiring Dan Quinn.
On the other side of the ball, specifically the QB position, there isn’t anyone in free agency or the draft that will come in, learn and execute this offense better than Jimmy G.
The only way Saleh is replaced for next year is if he gets a head coach job.
Hammer, that 44 yard completion on 3rd and 15 to Hill was thanks to Saleh’s predictable stratagem. Reid knew the play call was cover 3 buzz, and he simply called 3 jet wasp y-funnel. All Mahomie had to do was purchase time because he knew Hill would come open. He didn’t have to read or go through any progressions. Weak defensive sauce lost the 49ers that game! Dude had two weeks to prepare with all that talent and that was the best he could come up with? As your friend Joe Biden says, c’mon man!
Wait. Didn’t you write that every time Mahomes was in shotgun they played quarters coverage? Now you have them in Cover 3? Which is it?
Even if it was cover 3, Moseley blew his responsibility which I’ve stated all along.
Mosely didn’t lose the game. Saleh’s tendencies lost that game. It’s as obvious as the stat lapel pin on your shirt….
Never said that Moseley’s mistake cost the 49ers the game.
The defense blew some coverages, the offense couldn’t get first downs or hit the shot on the deep ball.
It was a collective effort. My only complaint was they went away from the run which was what they did best.
“ The only way Saleh is replaced for next year is if he gets a head coach job”
I doubt that but good riddance!
Saleh has been good so far.
He’s had one terrible game (Miami) and one ok game (AZ, with a healthy D). The rest of the games were solid games by the defense but it must be noted we haven’t seen any good QBs with this defense yet.
If he’s able to keep Russ and Rodgers under 28 pts I’ll be impressed. *Note* If 21 or more of those come in the 1st half I won’t be as it would likely wreck the game plan.
And while Jimmy hasn’t been really good, he has gotten better as he has regained his health. I wouldn’t trust any other QB on this roster or rookie available to SF to do as well over the next 2 seasons.
Jimmy has the rest of the year to change minds. He’s the best they’ve got right now. Shanny needs to identify a qb he likes in this upcoming draft to begin grooming. Having a qb on a rookie deal that’s as good as Jimmy is right now is just what this team needs….
Bingo. Unless JG completely stinks the rest of the year he will likely be the QB next year, but I would be shocked if the team doesn’t draft a QB sometime on the 2nd day of the draft to groom and replace JG if he continues to show the same limitations moving forward.
Have you watched Zach Wilson play this year?
No, I haven’t watched any college ball this year.
If you’re looking to take one in the 2nd round, he’d be worth consideration. He’s improved from last year and he takes snaps from under center. Rocket arm with good mobility. Check him out when you get the chance….
I’ve watched him a fair amount.
He reminds me a lot of Jeff Garcia, the questions with him will be is he big enough and does he have the arm to throw the outs and sideline comeback routes. I think he is big enough but do wonder if he can make those plays along the sideline. I love his decision making and intangibles though.
Reminds me of Garoppolo. Similar compact, quick release and he likes to get the ball out quickly to take advantage of a favorable matchups.
I can see that in terms of decision making and getting the ball out quickly, but his release has more of a windup. He tends to hold the ball lower, closer to belt level where as Jimmy holds the ball nearer to chest level so he has to bring it around rather than just cock and throw. This isn’t really a knock as he seems to still get the ball out quickly enough, but Jimmy has one of the fastest releases I’ve ever seen.
I likened him to Jeff more in terms of his willingness to scramble, or be creative to get the job done, his film has quite a few forward flip passes to his receivers as he scrambles.
The two BYU games that I’ve watched left me thinking he’s healthier than last year, and they’ve opened up the offense. He looks like he’s improved over last year which is what you want to see….
No second-day QB pick is going to replace Jimmy G. So prepare to be shocked :)
Not next season, but after a year of grooming…
Exactly. I’d be shocked if they don’t draft a qb in this draft.
Perhaps a third-day flier for a backup.
I don’t see a quality QB in this draft in the pick range 20-100 who is a pocket passer in the mold of Jimmy G. Kyle is probably not going to spend a top half draft pick on a mediocre mobile QB.
Zach Wilson is for sure in the top 100 conversation if he keeps playing the way he is.
A salient factor in determining who will win on Sunday may be- The Seahawks are exhausted, from playing in that Overtime game. It also was a huge letdown, to see Wilson throw a pick, that allowed the Cards to win.
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Samuel out for two weeks.
Wilson going on IR.
Coleman and K’Waun have a chance to return.
Hopefully it is only 2 weeks for Samuel. Hamstrings can be tricky.
more likely that he’s back after the bye
Interesting factoid: If one disregards the Brian Allen game, the Niners are the best scoring defense in the league at 15.8 ppg.
I can’t forgive Saleh for the B.Allen game. I should point out B. Allen was better playing close to the line…maybe they should make him a NCB…
I still think Saleh is average….I saw AZ defensive plan against Wilson…
In the first half they played mostly zone….in the second half their most effective plays against Wilson were zone blitzes….
That int in the overtime was pure genius…….the Steelers of old used to run that play well..
Vance had a solid plan….Saleh is average compare to Vance……
Of the 3 loses, 2 of them are on Saleh and the defense.
LOL
So you think the idea of giving K Murray 91 rushing yards, 180 overall, pretty funny, eh? Yeah, har de har har.
Saleh better figure out mobile QBs or the Niners are going to be O-for against the cards and hawks and any playoff hopes torpedoed.
A blocked punt set Az up inside the 20, and the QB missed a throw that would have given the 49ers the lead with less than 1:20 to go, but sure, blame it only on the defense.
Ok, mr stat-man. Tell us what are the odds of winning while giving up nearly 200 yards rushing?
LOL!
Those odds go up exponentially when your special teams doesn’t give up a blocked punt, your offense doesn’t pass up a field goal to get stuffed at the goal line on 4th down, and your QB hits a wide open receiver in the waning moments of the final quarter.
That one of AZ scoring drives was a measly 15 yards makes that 180 yards rushing even more outrageous.
Saleh had better have an answer for RW’s legs this upcoming game. He ‘s not come close yet when it’s counted.
“Saleh had better have an answer for RW’s legs this upcoming game. He ‘s not come close yet when it’s counted.“
Other than in the season finale last year with the division and home field advantage on the line.
And even in the first game last season the defense set the offense up with a pick in OT and the kicker shanked it.
This will be a big test for the defense. Wilson is among the league MVP candidates and won’t make the same mistakes we’ve seen Goff and Newton make the past 2 weeks.
As Kyle pointed out in one of his pressers, all teams have problems with the Murrays and Jacksons. IMO, more of the big plays made by running QBs against the Niners have been due to lack of discipline in the front 7. This coaching staff is one of the best in the league, but there is a limit to what they can do in getting the players to execute every play with sufficient discipline.
The way the Niners ‘ D has adapted to the loss of the 7 starters has made me a Saleh fan — keeping Allen on the field a couple of extra series notwithstanding. Most importantly, he must be learning from his mistakes since he’s getting better. Saleh occasionally makes a few head-scratching play calls, but overall I’d definitely put him in the top half of the DCs in the league.
Looks like the Cowboys are making Everson Griffen available. He’d cost $1.76 million in salary and $187,500 for each game he is on the active roster. Not sure if the Cowboys would want a late round pick.
He has 2.5 sacks in seven games with the Cowboys.
SF has less than 3 million in cap space
A late round pick and Witherspoon should get the deal done. Witherspoon is owed 2.1 mil. Dallas would get a young corner with upside for getting rid of a guy they obviously have no interest in keeping.
Set to the music of Gustav Mauler:
https://twitter.com/KNBR/status/1320888516021084160
That was a real beet-down-hoven by the Niners running bachs. And no penalties for chopin blocks. Only thing missing were some Mike S(c)humann highlights (were there ever any Mike Shumann highlights? :)
Poor Shumann — reputation destroyed by a jacket.
When watching the game sunday and watchin Cam Newton, I couldn’t help but be reminded of Kaepernick.
We saw what opponents faced when going against CK… he runs the ball well, has a big arm and can make all the throws but is inconsistent and struggles going through his progressions. Qb’s like this you don’t want to sack… you want to force them to throw, it doesn’t matter if they have 7 seconds or more in the pocket.
It also goes to show what a depleted squad will do. No QB will do well when he does not have enough talent to support him.
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When Cam had good support, he went 15-1, and got to the SB. Kaep went to the SB after starting 10 games, and was one pass from returning, while setting the QB playoff rushing record. Too bad Baalke then proceeded to dismantle that SB team.
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However, Cam has been given a chance to play, so Kaep should also be given a chance to play, too. Given the drek QBs presently playing, it is specious to deride Kaep, while ignoring the poor QB play in the league.
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I guess you will next be declaring that Andy Dalton is superior to Kaep, but we all saw how well he played.
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This blackballing is giving the NFL a black eye, and reminds me of why the NFL took so long to allow black QBs to play. Given that even his haters have conceded that Kaep is a dynamic QB who took the league by storm, Kaep should be given at least a tryout with a team.
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However, some teams seem to be content to lose without Kaep, rather than doing everything in their power to win, because they are Tanking for Trevor.
Nov.4th
Egg on the face or finally be right.
I was right when I said I truly believed that the Niners would gash the Patriots with the run game. I have consistently touted Jeff Wilson, and during TC, I said that Hasty has quick hips, and I hope the Niners do not sheathe a potent weapon. Guess I was also right about both of those players.
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You, on the other hand, speculated about teams laying a 40 burger on the Niners, and questioned if Saleh would be fired. Maybe you should stop being so wrong all the time, before crowing if I am wrong about Kaep.
Will you be wrong about Kap and this saga comes to end? Or will he sign and I will be wrong?
Who will take the tittle?
Nov.4th!
Actually, I still think Kaep will be able to play, if this National Nightmare finally is over, and honor is restored.
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The NFL owners were cowed by the blustering bloviator in Chief, and his threats against the league.
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Maybe not November 4th, but with all of the pathetic QB play, some team should be desperate enough to take a chance on a SB QB with a 90.7 QBR.
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I have moved on, but Kaep, that dynamic QB who took the league by storm, seems to be dwelling in your head. I will not whine and cry if he is not signed, because I am content with JG as the 49er franchise QB.
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You may say I am wrong all the time, but when Tom Tolbert described the Niner win as a Pyrrhic victory, Matt Maiocco said the Niners gashed them, and one pundit described accentuating their strengths and avoiding weaknesses, all I can say is that my prose is being parroted.
NY Giants. They traded for Y.A. in 1961. (sorry, couldn’t resist :)
It is interesting to note that the Niners really need interior O line depth, and that most of the present DBs will be free agents next season, and some want the Niners to draft a QB high with their second round pick.
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With the ACL plague afflicting the Niners, Razor wants the Niners to draft a pass rusher with their first pick.
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Maybe if the Niners trade back and get multiple second round picks, should drafting a QB be a high priority. I will believe what George Kittle says about JG over the peanut gallery. He certainly has not given up on JG.
It was never going to last. Reuters reports that Putinsky has begun the break up process by throwing Trumpee’s conspiracy theory under the bus (below). Putinsky doesn’t want to be the last rat off the sinking ship . Expect similar actions from Little Kim . LOL
“regarding the money Hunter Biden made working for a Ukrainian company, he added, “I don’t see anything criminal about this, at least we don’t know anything about this (being criminal).” “
Not being Trump, I’m not taking Putin’s word on anything.
The question is, why is Pootie-Poot throwing DJT under the bus? Probably because he, the ultimate practitioner of realpolitik, knows he will no longer be dealing with him in a few months.
It was always a transactional relationship and Putinsky had all of the leverage – financial (massive trumpee debt) , mob entanglements , creepy sex stuff probably with minors … trumpee, the buffoon , thought we was really getting a key to the dictators club when all along the actual dictators were using him like the little b!tch . The actual dictators are a pretty ruthless crowd and they will eventually spill the beans on what they have on trumee to humiliate him and embarrass the US. The Steele Dossier will become a handy checklist in 2021.
Haha guys I once remember being a little naughty in church and placing my hand under my wife’s skirt; and wound up shaking another man’s hand.
Gotta love those huge crowds that Hiden Biden and even Hussain Obama turned out in Orlando today. Ha! What a joke.
What’s up with Hussain saying that America was built by protesting.
I always gave Hussain credit for his intellect, but if he can’t distinguish between a protest and a riot, he would do better sitting on the sidelines.
But then again, Hussain fancies himself on rioting, he had three under his administration. And right on cue, failed to mention anything about ongoing protest that have injured people, murdered officers and destroyed businesses.
Hussain proved one thing in his stumping for Hiden Biden today : Law enforcement is not a priority for the Dems. Not sure if the Dems knows this, but law and order still matter to Americans.
Not sure if you know this, but Police Depts are not going away.
Also not sure if you know this, but Americans know the pandemic has not gone away. And the the regimes white flag in the face of nearly 1,000 deaths every day is shameful and despicable. America has paying the price, Trump will pay the price Nov 3.
I’d love to see the smile on your face come Nov 4 :)
Hidden Biden said today, to his huge 40+ crowd in Georgia that he will end covid on his first day in office.
Really? Does he and president Kamala have a magic potion or a mystical wand to wave to put an end to the pandemic?
I could see it already (if Biden wins), if the pandemic lingers through next summer, I’m sure that the Dems will still blame Trump.
Blaming and covering up, is what they do best.
Btw, speaking of law and order, I’m still waiting for the cancel culture lib news media to report the attack on the Jews for Trump car rally on Sunday in New York. Would also like to hear what president Kamala and Hidden Biden have to say.
Let’s put it this way, I won’t hold my breath (lol).
I’ll also have a smile from ear to ear on Nov. 4th , my friend.
President Trump was right about fraud:
https://amgreatness.com/2020/10/27/ballot-harvester-in-texas-caught-on-video-pressuring-senior-to-change-ballot-to-straight-dem-vote/
Uh huh.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/politics/california-gop-drop-boxes.html
Heed my warning Raz – If I were you, I’d not vote at all. Your vote will either not be counted or changed to blue.
No worries, Indiana ranks 3rd in freedom among all 50 states. New York, not so much.
What freedom am I missing that you are enjoying? The freedom to infect your fellow citizens? Are stoplights voluntary there in Hoosier land? Cops pull over drunk drivers to give them a atta-boy?
It’s a virus dumbass and we’ve nearly reached attenuation. Keep pedaling your fear and live your life how Cuomo tells you to!
Attenuation? When cases are highest they’ve ever been? The idiocy…it burns.
The Dakotas are up there in your freedom states, right?
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/21993075/m6pMH_the_dakotas_covid_19_epidemics__1_.png
Do all New Yorkers wear their ignorance as proudly as you do?
You mean like this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/nyregion/trump-protesters-clash-nyc.html
Or this:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/us/trump-caravan-counterprotesters-clashes-trnd/index.html
Or…I’d post sh!tloads more, but as I recall the forum software frowns on excessive linkage.
(you really need to poke your head up from the OANN and Epoch Times.)
Meh, just a usual NYC dust up. You’ve seen West Side Story, right? Don’t go worrying your pretty little head over it.
Won’t we all. Still basking in the Niners win over the hated Hawks
For starters, they…
won’t ignore intelligence warnings
won’t call the crisis a hoax
won’t downplay the threat
won’t lie about virus testing
won’t lie about the rate of infection, blaming cases on testing
won’t mislead the country about quack cures
won’t blame governors
won’t accuse hospital workers of stealing PPE
won’t accuse hospital workers and first responders of falsifying cases for $
won’t falsely claim the pandemic is”dying out” or “turning the corner”
won’t fill marathon pandemic briefings with ceaseless contradictions and lies
wont silence scientists and epidemiologists
won’t slime the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
won’t throw up their hands by saying “We are not going to control the pandemic”
LOL AES, you are such a laughably hypocritical tool. ‘I don’t take responsibility at all’ ring a bell? Or do you mean this kind of Dem blaming:
“We inherited a lot of garbage,” Trump said. “We took, ah, they had tests that were no good, they had, all the stuff was no good. It came from somewhere, so whoever came up with it.”
“Our stockpiles were empty,” he added. “We had horrible stockpiles, we had horrible ventilators, we had very few of them too … CDC had obsolete tests, old tests, broken tests, and a mess.”
Rib,
That’s a mouthful my friend, but how does this eliminate the Covid? If Biden wants to secede power to the scientist why even run for office.
But I have to give Biden a little credit, if his Dem scientist fail just like Nadler’ linguistic professors did during the impeachment trials, he could blame them and keep himself and Hunter in hiding (lol). Btw, I don’t subscribe to the news outlets you mentioned.
And yes, I believe that a 49er win over the seahags will put a smile on both our face.
Ribico is an idiot. Ignore him from now on since he enjoys posting as BruceLee and riling people up.
No, Rib is an East Coast person, and is much older, from what I glean from all his postings.
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Interesting. A troll burner account is warning posters about trolls.
You’re a moron. He lives right here.
David Lombardi
@LombardiHimself
“Daily salary-cap report with the trade deadline a week away:
The 49ers have only $117,911 of cap room today. As it stands, they literally cannot afford to sign or trade for anyone. Any potential move would have to come with a potential cut or restructure to open up 2020 space.”
I don’t expect to see any moves for the team unless something big like releasing a high contract player takes place.
My guess would be McKinnon if he doesn’t play well in the next two games.
If Hasty plays well, McKinnon might be an ex-49er by Friday.
By Friday (after the Packers game).
Releasing McKinnon would cost them money under the cap by accelerating $2M in pro-rated signing bonus. So he’ll be sticking around no matter what.
You’re right Scooter.
McKinnon signed a player friendly contract.
Hopefully, McKinnon can get his mojo back in the next two games (and beyond) because the team can use it.
Shanahan said that he didn’t play McKinnon against the Patriots because he wanted him to rest.
Imho, that’s simply coach speak. Jet, has not been able to recapture his explosiveness and at times looks like he’s running on sand.
Wilson and Hasty gave us the explosion this offensive scheme needed against the Patriots.
The next two games will define McKinnon’ future with the 49ers.
We’ll see what happens.
He looks slow, timid and too cautious.
I see season IR in his future with an offseason release and or retirement.
He no longer has his burst and without a full training camp, I can see how his legs could need a 2nd wind. Whether he gets it or not is another question. Guess we’ll find out because I expect him to be much more involved in the game plan, especially as a receiving threat out of the backfield….
Lombardi is off. The 49ers have 2.77 mil in cap space
Are you sure, Jack? Niners signed two players today to the PS. I don’t know the details.
https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1321137918728114177?s=21
Wonder if the Press Democrat waived the 9ers beat writer…
morro,
Yup. CW, said that we would receive 49ers analysis and post game information from the PD. It’s now Tuesday, and no word yet from the PD.
I’ve been reading the game breakdowns from Jack Hammer lately. At least he’s on the job!
In C.W.’s post:
Thanks Rib.
Sadly, the PD may be in such financial ruins that they can’t afford to use a substitute during CW’ vaca.
Next up — Niners 26, Seahawks 24.
Film breakdown of the Patriots game.
https://youtu.be/Ox23fo5wu-k
Jack is someone funding this type of work you and Grant are doing?
No
We don’t agree on a lot of things 49ers, but you are doing a good job.
Thank you, Prime. That’s much appreciated.
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Deebo may be out, but Deebo’s plays will be run with someone else.
Is this the week of Kevin White?
When Deebo was out, Aiyuk was already being used to mimic the same plays. If White can help during Deebo’ absence it will be a plus, but I honestly don’t believe that Shanahan is depending on KW to turn any heads.
Aiyuk will be the man Shanny goes to. I just hope he doesn’t overuse him.
For some reason I think Shanny will try to play a real heavy game. Slow it down. Get Seattle’s LB’s and secondary to play short coverages in the 5-7 yard range. Somewhat like they did against NE but using more 2 TE sets and a lot of Juice.
Then Aiyuk might be used to take shots down field periodically.
Use Bourne underneath as well and maybe we will finally see White.
This game might be the one that starts the conversation for Shanny being coach of the year.
I don’t know that I like that strategy vs the Seahawks.
Their secondary is not good and their pass rush makes SF’s look great. They have allowed the second-most passing yards in the NFL to this point and they are in the top 10 against the run. I’m not saying SF should abandon the run game, but they should stick with their personnel groupings and throw a bit more out of them.
You set up the run with the pass in this game. Let’s hope Jimmy’s ankle is no longer an issue.
Shoup you trust Mckinnon and Hasty? I just don’t see the explosiveness and power in either guy the way Mostert and Wilson Jr. execute the running game.
Thats why I say using a heavy set 2 TE’s and Juice in the short passing game exposes Seattles’s LB’s who cant cover.
The last thing we want to get into is a shoot out with Russell Wilson. Keep him off the field and control the line of scrimmage, field position and the clock.
Prime,
I dont trust McKinnon at all and that is why I dont really like heavy personnel packages. With the standard 21 personnel package, I like the matchups… Kittle, Aiyuk, Bourne, Juice and McKinnon all can catch the ball well and are good at running routes. Whilte at the same time Juice and Kittle force teams to stay honest in terms of the run game… 2TE’s I don’t like as much as I prefer Juice or Bourne on the Field to Dewelly.
When Reed gets back for the playoffs, I’d unveil my 2 TE Berserker formation.
I have a tough time imagining Kyle use Aiyuk as the battering ram receiver like he uses Deebo.
But I have an easier time imagining starting the game with a series of short passes, including screens, to open up the middle for runs. Also, I wonder if the plan is to involve McKinnion more as a pass catcher out of the backfield in this game. Whatever it is, it has to help try to open up a bigger lead than one score going into the fourth quarter.
I fully expect McKinnon to be featured in the passing game, but I think this is the game Aiyuk goes off.
I would like to see White in the lineup… and I think he could provide some of what Deebo does (a poor man’s version) with the added bonus of deep speed.
Random question…
Who has the best defense in the division? Do you think it is SF? Rankings wise they are.
Surprisingly, I think it might be AZ with SF a close second.
The reason for this is they have some pretty good cover corners but can also rush the passer a bit. SF’s corner play has been a very nice surprise, SF has yet to play a top 10 qb and they have not been able to get much in the way of a pass rush, so I am withholding judgment a bit there.
Oddly enough… I almost think not getting to the qb against the likes of Kyler and Russ might help a bit.
Get on the mush rush express!
Blitz on third down like the Cards did.
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I do think the Cards defense is stout, but it might not be elite without Chandler Jones.
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I do think the Niner defense is elite, even without Bosa, Sherman and Ford.
Interestingly enough SF has blitzed a lot more this year… last year they blitzed about 21% if the time, near the bottom of the league. While this year SF has blitzed 33% of the time, 8th most in the NFL.
Another strange stat is regarding their hurry rate, which is top 3rd in the NFL, however I believe this is a bit misleading. I say this because their knockdown rate for qb’s isn’t even in the top 10. This leads me to believe that these pressures are only making qb’s move slightly off their spot and the qb isn’t in real danger from these.
Grant agrees with you, Seb. He thinks we should blitz the Euck out of Wilson just like Joseph did in sudden death….
Well of course that is the worst strategy in the world against Wilson. The guy has made a living turning broken plays into scoring plays.
You blitz very randomly against Wilson. We have such tall and stout linemen that you want Wilson to make throws inside the pocket. He’s a dwarf. Dwarfs can’t throw over people. That’s why blitzing him allows him to escape and throw it on the run. Terrible terrible terrible strategy.
The only reason Joseph blitzed so much in OT was because their oline was out of gas.
Of course that would come from November 4th and the guy that used to run this place.
Believe it or not, it is very hard to throw a pass while flat on your back.
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I want the Niners to do exotic blitzes with DBs so they are fast enough to corral RW. Also, Warner up the middle with a delayed blitz, will stop RW from breaking containment by him stepping up in the pocket.
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Of course, you want to make it twice as hard to win, so you do not want to pressure RW into throwing a pick, like he did last game. You must want to let RW stand in the pocket and pick apart the defense. With only 4 rushers, RW has more of a chance to break containment.
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Grant and I came to the same conclusion? Naw, he is just parroting me. ;p
As 3 of their wins have come against a combined 3-17, I’m withholding judgement also.
1. Niners should trade for Royce Freeman in the offseason. The Broncos barely use him. He can replace Coleman who is ineffective and would take some of the workload burden off Mostert. Lynch and Elway have a good relationship so they should be able to work something out.
2. I firmly believe a hard hitting S who can corral a speedy QB should be a priority in next years draft.
2A. C/G is also a priority .
3. . I have a good feeling about the Seattle game. EMan played Metcalf tough last year and same goes for Kwaun versus Lockett. Carson is banged up and I am not concerned about our old buddy Hyde.
4. Hasty will rush for 100+. Jimmy will have a good game and spread the ball around. 250/3
5. Niners 32 Seattle 17.
1. Wilson replaces Coleman next year.
2. Moore is the safety you’re looking for. Ward is here until 2022 unless they can trade him. Maybe Moore replaces Tartt until then. Safeties are interchangeable in this defense.
3. Grasu/Shipley will determine the center priority for 2021. Alex Mack will be available if a stop gap is needed.
I think the 49ers will draft for all those positions next year. Also, I looked at Zach Wilson, form BYU. Not bad Razor. Nothing wrong with a skinny white kid from BYU. Maybe the next Steve Young!
Seriously doubt they draft a rb.
Yeah probably but a RB who can play special teams and return kicks would not be a bad idea. I don’t see Jet coming back next year. Coleman might be a cap casualty as well.
Yep, no Jet or Coleman next year. That’ll open up close to $5 million.
No Sherman next year. That’s another $10 million.
I agree Moore will replace Tart, but I think it is wise to draft and slowly groom the heir apparent to take over for Ward. A real difference maker S like Derwin James or Jamal Adams would make this D elite. Eventually we can move Ward to nickel or trade him.
BTW, Adams may be out this weekend. Kittle will feast.
Oh, I never said they weren’t going to draft a safety. I like Richard LeCounte iii outta Georgia.
1. Niners found their diamond in the rough. Hasty will prove valuable in the passing game, too. Jeff Wilson has amply demonstrated why he should get more snaps. He is a Baller, a touchdown magnet. When healthy, Mostert, Wilson and Hasty, along with Juice, make this RB squad very formidable. Freeman seems like a shell of his old self, and injuries have slowed him down.
2. They have Marcell Harris, who can hit, and the other safeties were laying down licks on the Patriots. OL and CB should be the first priorities in the draft.
3. I do not have a good feeling about this next game. Pete Carroll is smart enough to devise a game plan that could effectively attack the Niner’s weaknesses. This is a prideful game. They just barely got beat, and want redemption. They also are feeling the burn from losing last season in Seattle, that cost them home field advantage. I fully expect Pete will try to run the ball, in long sustained drives, then do play action for shots down the field. I hope the pass rush will continue to be disciplined and cohesive, and not allow Wilson to break containment. Maybe the best way to get to Russell Wilson is to blitz with a safety, although Warner on a delayed blitz up the middle may also be successful. This is such a big game, those RBs may need to be on crutches, before I believe they will not play.
4. I agree, and hope you are right.
5. Niners 24-23.
Jimmy G started this national holiday
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1321240263029854214
Per Lombardi:
“Kerry Hyder ranks #4 among NFL edge rushers in pass-rushing productivity; 49ers will pay him $1.5M for this season. The other top 4 edge rushers (Sweat, Joey Bosa, T.J. Watt and Graham) will bring home an average of $15M this season (Bosa $43M total 2020 earnings given bonus)”.
FO ranks Niners D line as #10 thru 7 games
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/defensive-line/2020
Let’s hope Willis experiences the same type of success. I’m anxious to get a look at him this Sunday.
Doubt he will another Hyder. Hopefully, better than Jordan. He has no bend.
Seahawks just got Dunlap!
Is he eligible to play this weekend?
No.
Sign of desperation
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/how-the-49ers-offense-can-offset-the-loss-of-deebo-samuel
Nice breakdown there Hammer.
But is this needed?:
Does working with Grant require you to bloviate about being more knowledgeable than the professionals running the team? It’s a bad look. Seriously.
Having fun. Well it is my plan and one that I think gives them the best chance of winning and should provide hope for their fans.
Whether it’s coming from the highly paid shock jocks, Grant, Seb, you… it’s an annoying tic of social media, every blowhard has a bullhorn. It diminishes what you have to say. But if you feel you must, then by all means….
Yet, when before the game, I state that I truly believe the Niners will gash them with the run, then see them run for 197 yards, it is very satisfying.
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When I state that the RB should not stay in to block, but swing out as a quick safety valve, then see that strategy executed to perfection, I feel as though they read my posts.
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Maybe you should just stick to politics. If that is your forte, do it, by all means….. ;p
Forgot about Richie James. Id also like to see what Kevin White can do.
As I said earlier today, this game plan might be one that gets the conversation started for Shanahan as coach of the year. Seattle probably preparing like crazy for the sweeps, bubble screens, and short passing game. The plan now is who gets those touches? I would think Kittle, Juice, Dwelley and then Aiuyuk and Bourne over the top.
I just don’t have as much confidence in Hasty as everyone else for our running game.
You really must like being wrong. Hasty has quick hips. He can turn on a dime, and leave change.
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I like his pass catching ability, too.
Easy, Jack. You’re entering Seb’ air space of projecting game plans that supercedes Shanahan (lol).
Joking aside, I like your plan. Imo, Juice has been underutilized as a runner and receiver. People forget that he was a talented TE in college who is more than capable of catching the ball.
No big revelation in using Aiyuk more, but I do like starting Hasty and playing Richie over Taylor.
But this game may likely come down to the 49ers defense containing Russell, Lockett and DK.
Thanks, AES. It will definitely come down to the defense if the offense is able to keep playing well.
Wilson is on a whole different level than what they’ve faced the last six weeks.
Can’t wait for this game. It’s going to be very interesting.
Wilson is the same dude we’ve faced twice a year every year. We’re well aware of what level we need to be on to get him….
No kidding
Yet you felt the need to point it out like their was a storm on the horizon that we’re not prepared for.?
Nov.4th Kaepernick signing?
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Yeah I didn’t bring it up. It was a response to a comment that mentioned the need to contain Wilson, et al.
So what you’re saying is you’re not responsible for your responses. Got it!?
Nah. What I’m saying is that I was agreeing with AES
Lots of talent coming back, three key pieces are returning this week, Reed, Coleman, Williams. The offense needs long drives keeping Wilson off the field while at the same time protecting the Niners defense. Its fun going through the gauntlet of proven teams, I once again see the Niners hammering the Hawks.
The return of Jordan Reed would be huge because he is another weapon to exploit Seattle’s inability to cover TE’s.
We need to make Bobby Wagner run a lot of sideline to sideline coverages and tire that dude out. This will open up the running lanes between the tackles.
I was basically think the same thing, should also help reduce the impact of losing Samuel.
That’s not a bad tandem Kittle and Reed, if Reed can return to form.
Kittle/Reed>Gronk/Hernandez
Most likely only Coleman coming back this week. The others more likely for Green Bay.
Agree. We’ll see in the next 21 days.
If Reed can go Sunday that will be huge. I expect he’d take a lot of the snaps left by Samuel’s absence, with the team using more 22 personnel. Obviously used in a different way, but he’d provide a nice target for JG in the short to intermediate game that is a mismatch for most LBs.
I wouldn’t expect it given it was a 6-8 week injury, but I’d certainly welcome it!
The drama which wasn’t. Much has been made of all of the various crazy scenarios which could play out with the election. There are some are legitimate concerns. For instance I don’t trust this hyper-partisan right wing supreme court one bit. The trumpees have done everything in their power to delegitimize and make difficult voting by mail . The good news is that those things wont matter. Biden will win FL, GA and NC and will be declared the winner by 9PM.
STFU with that crap!
F off Delta Bravo
Take your political horse crap and shove it. This is a football blog. Moron!
If anybody takes over this blog the very first mandate they should make is anyone posting political crap gets a 2 week ban. Next one is 4 week and so on. That’s how you deal with this problem….
No one will be happier when this election is over and I’m not even American!
You and Hammer should tag team taking over this blog.
Umm, razor aren’t you a prolific political poster. So it is sometimes okay ? Typical trumppeeester
PT, did someone post that you have been banned from multiple blogs. WTF, kind of super weirdo gets banned from multiple blogs.
No I haven’t been banned from anywhere but you can take your political crying and shove it up your 2 hole!
The chicom thinks I’m a prolific political poster. How long you been here? You show up like a pup and start leaving your piles of political poop, and you think you’re not gonna get a response? Grow the Euck up punk!
I’ve been here somewhere between several to numerous months. It is pretty obvious when someone posts anti D stuff everyone , including razor, gets giddy and chimes in. When I post something several people throw a tantrum … I guess because the reality is sinking in . BTW, I’m not a punk as you put it. I am in my 30s . I am married with 1 toddler and 2 dogs.
That poor wife, toddler and 2 dogs!
Bruce there is a difference between you and everyone else.
Most post around more about niners than about politics you post more about politics and its not even close. Razor, Rib, Houston, NinerMD, PT and Seb have all ventured into politics and that is annoying as hell for me but they all still post a lot about the 49ers… you haven’t. You came in from the jump a posting mostly political comments… I would say more 3/4 of your posts are political. And the board has gone down hill the year or so because of this nonsense imo… try to at least get to having about 50% of your posts being niner related if you want to be less annoying… you will be far better received.
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I’ve been here 10 years punk! You’ve got the temerity to speak as if you know what the Euck you’re talking about. Nobody gives a wet rip about your “reality”. This is a football blog and your political piles of post poop have been stinking up the place!
Razzy, don’t be mad at me. We have a lot in common. We both like the 49ers and uh … well … I guess that is it . LOL
The Niners should not become complacent after their win against the Patriots. This may be similar to their game against the Giants. They beat up on a talentless team, yet the next game, the injury ravaged Eagles managed to defeat the Niners. The Patriots were without Brady with many key players affected by Covid 19, either by opting out, or being afflicted by the Covid. The upcoming Seahawk game will have way better talent.
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Many claim the Niner team is depleted, and it is true that they have a slough of injuries, but depleted teams usually lose, whereas the Niners seem to be winning. Depleted teams use that as an excuse for their losing, but the Niners just rolled over the Pats 33-6, so they have restocked and are rejuvenated. It is fortunate that JL has built this squad with lots of depth, because they have needed it. I just wish he would concentrate on fully healthy players, because when the new player reinjures his past injury, it is just a waste of time and energy, along with stressing the salary cap.
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Even with the poor Seahawk defense, the Seahawk offense has led them to a 5-1 record. I am glad the myth of invincibility at the Clink was shattered last season, when both the Cards and Niners defeated them up there. However, the Seahawks will be a daunting challenge, and it may just come down to a game of inches, like their last 2 meetings. Whichever team makes the fewest errors, may make all the difference, between winning and losing. I hope the Niners do not become over confident, and remember how they felt after the Dolphins game, so they do everything in their power to avoid that.
Egg on the face or vindication?
Nov.4th, stay tuned!
Legendry golfer Jack Nicklaus endorses trooompee last night and says “he’s worked for the average person …in my opinion, he has been more diverse than any President i have seen and has tried to help people from all walks of life – equally” LOL . Nickypooo left out that he lobbied trooompee last year along with HHS for a 20 million grant for a hospital project in Miami. Nickypoo received the 20M and trumpee received an endorsement/pack of lies. Meanwhile the “average person” is freezing to death in Nebraska. LOL.
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A person who does not respect the blogs repeated requests to cease and desist with political poop.
The Seahawks may have acquired Dunlap, but it really is just a sign of desperation. He is mediocre and was 5th best on his former team. He is certainly worth only a 7th round pick.
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The Seahawks may be getting better, though. Jamal Adams and Rashad Penny may be back, so their pass defense, and running offense, may be improved.
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The best way to neutralize Russel Wilson, is to keep him on the side line. I hope JG can engineer some long sustained drives that will wear down that defense.
No team was as desperate as we were when we signed Ziggy for an Ansah at edge.
You don’t neutralize Wilson. You contain him and force him to work down the field. Do not give up those cherry bomb completions!
Sure, but keeping RW on the side line is a good way to not let him touch the football, so he can work at all.
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Ziggy was a calculated risk. I wondered why he was not signed before. Guess other teams knew he was nicked up, and a shell of his former self.
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BTW, gratz on your 2 game win streak.
Thank you, Seb.
Desperation doesn’t necessarily make it a bad move. I think it could easily be argued that Dunlop is a better player than Willis, who the niners traded for out of desperation.
Considering they gave up an O lineman, along with that pick, while the Niners gave up a 2022 pick, the Seahawks were more desperate. Dunlap is 32, while Willis is only 25, so the Niners got a long term prospect, while the Seahawks got Dunlap for just this season, most likely.
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Of course, losing Bosa, Ford and Thomas, 3 starters, would make the Niners desperate.
Shoup, I think it’s more like “Six for one, half a dozen for the other”.
I highly doubt either player is going to solve their prospective team’s pass rushing issues, but considering the significant age difference, I think Willis (age 25) stands just as good if not better chance of reviving his career and making a difference, when compared to the older Dunlap (age 31), especially when you also factor in the fact that Willis is joining a defensive unit that currently ranks 5th in the NFL in yards allowed per game, as opposed to the Seahags defense, which currently ranks dead last in the NFL, and is putting up historically bad defensive numbers.
It will be interesting to see how these players actually fit and adapt scheme wise, but if I were a betting man, I’d bet that Willis has the bigger positive impact.
Just my humble opinion. Like I said, it may end up being a push. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
I completely agree with this… that’s why I am not saying it was a better move, just that it could be argued.
I think Seattle got the better player and will be helped more by him in the short term, but not exponentially so as I don’t think he will revitalize that pass rush.
I’m going to absolutely lose my sh_t if Tevin Coleman is getting significantly more snaps than JaMycal Hasty, upon Coleman’s return. In fact, if it’s even close, I’m gping to blow my top. And when Raheem Mostert returns healthy, Kyle should be starting Hasty (assuming he trusts his pass protection) , and then let Mostert take the reigns as the 49ers OL begins to wear down the opposing defense down. Why? The 49ers OL tends to struggle at opening up running lanes until they start to gas the opposing defense, and Hasty has a knack for creating something out of nothing, and like Frank Gore, Hasty can knife through even the thinnest of creases. On the other hand, Mostert is one of the leagues most dangerous RB’s anytime he finds a lane. In fact, Mostert is one cut away from taking it to the house anytime he finds a running lane he can exploit.
That’s a lot to ask of the kid when he’s only played in one NFL game.
BUT if he shreds the Seahawks this weekend, then maybe.
That’s a fair point Prime! It would certainly be contingent upon Kyle’s trust in him, how well Hasty is handling pass protection, and really the playbook in general. I think Mostert certainly deserves to “start”, and handle the first set of downs, but I’d like Kyle to get Hasty involved early, for the reasons I stated above. Hasty seems to be handling the pressure very well, and as crazy as it sounds, by the time Mostert returns, we are more than half way through the season as well. These two are certainly going to make a heck of a rushing duo for the 49ers moving forward, as they are not only extremely talented, but they both bring something a little different to the offense, and their skill sets seem to pair very well with one another.
I’d like to see Mostert and Hasty cement themselves as the teams top 2 RB’s (#1a & #1b), with Wilson Jr. as the #3 RB and short yardage specialist. I think that would give the 49ers one of the most balanced, and dynamic trios in the NFL, bar none! I hate to say this, but I will since it wasn’t a serious injury – I am so glad Coleman got hurt when he did, because from what I’ve heard and read, teams were trying to poach Hasty off of the PS, and I get the feeling that likely would have eventually been successful at luring him away had he remained on the PS for much longer.
And there is no chance they can leave Hasty exposed to waivers and unprotected moving forward. If they do, they are FOOLISH!
I think Jeff Wilson Jr. is the best RB we have. Better than Mostert.
You really like to be wrong, ALL THE TIME.
Nov.4th big mouth! We will see who is finally right or wrong.
I like Wilson but he is not in Mostert’s class IMO.
They are very complimentary though… Wilson’s physical nature with Mostert’s blazing speed provides a nice change of pace.
I just wish we could find a rb that could stay healthy… smh. Every one of these guys has a history of misssing time due to injury.
Mostert is faster, Wilson Jr. has more power in his game. They are a great compliment to one another. I just like what Wilson Jr. brings both from his speed and his power. To me, he is a more complete back.
Aside from Mostert’s noted attributes I think his biggest is the one that hardly gets mentioned; his ability to cut without slowing down….
Prime,
I like your thought process, but when Mostert returns it will be the other way around. Mostert starts and Hasty will eventually back him up depending on if McKinnon can recapture his mojo.
Plus, Mostert is making too much money to sit on the bench until late in the game. Mostert is the linchpin for establishing the running game. Hasty might eventually be that player, but not right now.
Sorry Prime, that was meant for 49reasons at 4:38.
AES,
It’s times like these where over investment for certain players really hurts. Part of the reason SF can’t go after even a pass rusher on the Cheap is due to the money tied up in Tevin and Jet… Tevin’s cap number alone is 4.8 mil and Jerrick’s number is 2.9 mil. If they only had 4.5 mil invested in 2 backup running backs they would have an additional 3.2 million to play with.
It’s still not a lot, but this year its more relevant the normal because they have 63 million tied up in injured players and people are talking about trading away guys just for cap space.
Which difference-making pass rusher could they have signed for $3.2M and without giving up a draft pick? They had already signed Ansah and lost $1.3M on that injury.
Coleman and McKinnon were offered contracts in off-seasons based on their perceived value and market price at the time of signing, not with the aid of 20-20 hindsight glasses where Mostert is the top rusher and Hasty and Wilson as complementary pieces :)
Niners are 22nd in cap money invested in RBs which is low considering how their offense depends on having and efficient and effective running game.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/running-back/
Niners also currently have the 4th least amount of dead money in the league.
Mood,
The point is with with an additional 3.2 million they would have something like 5 or 6 million to use to sign someone. This opens up possibilities like trading for Griffin from Dallas, signing a Matthews or Wake.
Tevin is currently the 11th highest paid rb, that’s a lot to pay a career backup.
To scooters point though… if sf is willing to over pay for a rb I would prefer for that to be done in the draft.
Shoup,
All good points. But when the 49ers signed McKinnon, we didn’t know at the time what we had in Mostert. Heck, the only established RB’s were Breida and Juice. At that time, it was essential to signed another proven RB.
The Colman signing likely was based on McKinnon’ injury and of course, familiarity with the offense.
After returning from his two year hiatus, McKinnon seems to have lost his explosiveness which is a key factor in Shanahan’ running offense. At the moment, McKinnon’ value is that of a receiver than a RB.
If he can’t get his explosion back, he will fall behind Hasty on the depth chart.
But I don’t blame the 49ers for signing these two guys based on the circumstances of our RB’s at that time.
We’ll get our pass-rushers when Blair and possibly Ford are back in time for the playoffs.
When they signed McKinnon they paid well over average for a RB that had been a role player at the Vikings. Personally I have no problem with that though as I believe Shanahan saw him as more of a do everything offensive player than a RB, in the same vein as guys like Deebo, Hurd, Aiyuk. Shanahan has a desire to build his offense where he can take advantage of whatever the D brings by having guys that are weapons in multiple ways.
It is a shame he got hurt.
However, what we have seen is that Shanahan can get good production from unheralded guys too, which is something that the Shanahan offense has always been able to do. I think he wants to find a RB that can be a RB/ WR, and he’s willing to pay for it, but given the success he is finding with these unheralded guys and his WRs that can act as RBs he probably doesn’t see it as big of a priority as he once did.
What you’ve stated is true. Personally, I hope that KS has learned from this that he doesn’t need to go all out (in terms of $$) for an RB even a hybrid RB. As you say, he has the ability (and maybe Turner needs to be included) to get good production from unheralded players – so why pay the big bucks for a guy like McKinnon. I’m not faulting him for what happened – just maybe next time he can realize that there is a limit and not be so enamored by the seemingly shiny object.
The one “problem”, if you want to call it that, with these unheralded guys they have is that none of them are really guys you can split out and play like a WR. Some of them are decent receivers, but not really players that play with WR like skills. I think that is what Shanahan ideally wants. An Alvin Kamara/ Christian McCaffrey type.
I think he will keep trying to add that type of RB, but yeah, hopefully he no longer sees it as such a big priority he overpays to get it given what the likes of Mostert, Breida, Hasty, Wilson have been able to provide and having guys like Samuel, Aiyuk and Hurd.
Yes, Kyle wants a McCaffrey-type player. IMO, McKinnon was priced not so much as a RB but more as a slot receiver. His route running offers a dimension that none of the other RBs do.
I’m surprised fans and pundits are writing off McKinnon. Players coming back from ACL may need an extra season to regain their speed.
I am not going to second-guess Kyle and the FO based on 20-20 hindsight. In a recent presser someone brought up the topic of success in signing UDFAs. Kyle said that they have been lucky that Brieda and Hasty were available. There is no assurance that such a player is always available as needed. BTW, Hasty had an offer to join his old coach in the Panthers 53-roster 2 weeks ago. He was persuaded to stay on in PS giving up 27K a week. Now he’s not going back to PS for the Niners.
Sounds like they have built a strong roster, and players want to play for the Niners. JaMycal Hasty had the opportunity to be claimed off the PS, but decided to stay, even with Mostert, Coleman, McKinnon and Wilson ahead of him on the depth chart. He could have started for another team, but obviously likes the organization, and team mates.
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Of course, it would have entailed going to a struggling team, so his assessment must mean he thinks that staying with the Niners would give him the best chance to compete for a SB
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Now that KS has seen what Hasty can do on the field, I hope he gets 20 carries and 4 passes.
I hope Nov.4th brings the humbling experience of crow right down your esophagus!
Why do you have to inflame a conversation?
Not inflaming anything. Seb made a prediction and we are gonna see if it comes to fruition.
He likes to remind everyone on here what they said and what they predicted so it’s time to see if he likes his own medicine!
Like no one makes predictions here.
Rib, you know that Seb likes to bring things up from the past and relentlessly use it any debate. Relevant to the discussion or not. He has to prove to that the person that they were wrong.
He’s done it with Connor Cook and 49, myself with Trubisky, Baalke with Rocket, and so many others.
Now it’s time to serve this clown a taste of his own medicine.
PT, time to give it a rest. If there’s anything worse than political postings it’s an endless one on one pissing contest. No one cares.
Rib I’ll make you a deal. You stop with the Trump political BS, and I’ll leave poor little old Seb alone?
Rib,
Speaking of predictions, I’m predicting 1,200 hits on the blog before CW returns from vaca (lol).
Well, there’s a big game on Sunday, but *this* was his vacation week, so we should expect a new article Monday?
BTW AES… if your prediction is wrong, you’re not hearing the end of it! :)
Rib,
I learned a painful lesson when I predicted a big win over Miami.
I was somewhat right, it was a big win.
But for the wrong team.
I’m staying away from predicting 49ers games.
Btw, since the Miami game, I stopped making predictions and they’ve won two games. I’m sticking with that pattern.
Poor pathetic Prime. He can be wrong all the time, but gets to bray if I am incorrect?
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I am more interested in what happens the day before. If Kaep does not sign with a team, I will just say that the blackballing is continuing. I will never under estimate the hate he receives, even though he is a hero for standing up for social justice.
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Like I have said many times before, some teams would rather lose without Kaep, than try to win with Kaep. Both the Cowboys and Jags should consider Kaep as an upgrade from the drek they have. If they do not give Kaep a tryout, they deserve to keep losing.
Nice waffle job Nov.4th. The prediction is in and I’ll pull a SEB and stick it to him. If he is wrong!
An interesting observation from Warriors HC Kerr.
Steve Kerr @SteveKerr Oct 28
If (trumpeee) applied for a job with any company in the US, HR would deny his hiring. 26 sexual assault allegations, 6 bankruptcies, numerous lawsuits, + countless charges of racism going back decades. Yet we have no problem hiring him to be president? Think about that before u vote!
STFU loser!
Brucie,
Who cares what political leanings Kerr has. He’s hired to win basketball games.
Your hate Trump tirades have gone off the rails here on this blog- get help.
Go away punk!
Like Houston, I’ve been wondering about all of these injuries and exactly what Peterson does. Here’s an article where an orthopedic surgeon places the blame on the lack of an offseason program.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/why-so-many-nfl-injuries-this-season-one-sports-medicine-doctor-thinks-he-knows-why/ar-BB1axVL6?li=BBnb7Kz
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Correct — I’ve heard the same reason from many different sources including former players.
Wonder if Kocurek can get something out of Dion Jordan at this late career stage.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/141637-goal-retire-49er-dion-jordan-discusses-playing-loving/
Meanwhile Kerry Hyder: 3.5 sacks, Jadevon Clowney: 0 sacks.
It’d be great if Williams could be back this Sunday and Saleh would put him on Lockett, But since it was a ACL sprain, they will probably be more careful and go with Taylor.
Taylor can’t cover Lockett. If he does he’ll make himself a pocket full of change.
Yeah, it’d be very tough for Taylor to cover Lockett. Injury report says nothing about Williams. Ward is questionable. Going by the existing pattern, he’d probably suit up. wonder if they put Moore at FS and Ward at nickel for this game if Williams doesn’t play.
Will the Niners be best defense Seattle has faced this season ? Yes.
Kwon and Ward are back but are Greenlaw and Moore better? Yes.
It looks like Hyde, Carson and Jamal Adams are game time decisions.
It sounds like Coleman will play as long as his knee responds well to the heavy workload he received in practice.
KWilliams/Ward/Alexander should play barring any setbacks.
Reed is the game time decision but is for sure ahead of the original prognosis.
I don’t expect Hyde/Carson or Adams to play.
I just read that the Sqawks have only had one healthy tailback in practice this week, rookie RB DeeJay Dallas.
I’m not sure I want the Seahawks to pass near or over 75% of the plays this game. Wilson did not have a particularly good game against the Cardinals so he’ll be amped.
It’s never good when the defense knows you have to pass even if it is Wilson. I think we need to test this rookie, Dallas in his pass pro with a blitzing cb, lb or s….
Yeah, and if that’s the case, then it’s on Saleh to have the right strategy. I’ve been rough on Saleh, but if he calls a good game, particularly if the Hawks become one-dimensional, I’ll gladly give him his due.
I’ve been rough on him as well but he’s deserved it. The Miami game specifically and the Cardinals as well.
This is a statement game. Can’t wait till Sunday.
Biden 2020
trumpeeee 10-20 at Rikers Island. LOL
Frickin’ idiot. If Trump wins shouldn’t sports be the one thing we should all be able to enjoy to keep us sane? (And beer. Lots of beer.) Keep politics off this page.
^Your brain on politics.
What will the Seahawks do? They will sell out to stop the run, and send DBs like Adams on blitzes. They will try to jump the short passes, so JG should do quick pump fakes to freeze the safeties. The receivers should do a stutter step, then head to the post. JG needs to burn them for a long bomb, and that will open up the underneath stuff.
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JG should then test their corners, by sending Aiyuk long. Since Deebo is out, maybe it is time to elevate Pettis, and give him a chance to shine. Replacing Deebo will be hard, so I hope McKinnon and Hasty can get some mismatches down field.
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Kittle should have a good game, both blocking and pass catching. The Seahawks will have Brooks, their first round pick back, so I hope the Niners run right at him.
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Who knew? Maybe the leading rusher for the Seahawks could be Nick Bellore. However, I think Carson will try to play, even if he is not at 100%.
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This will be a formidable challenge, but the Niners can win, if KS calls a good game, they contain Wilson in the pocket, and get 4 sacks. The winner may be the team that makes the fewest errors.
$100 says Adams doesn’t play?
Canadian dollar is useless here
Would not matter what currency we bet, Seb is a chicken sh$t.
Like President Trump says” all talk, no action”
Nov.4th, two great things will happen.
I do not bet welchers.
No you just run your mouth and then cower when confronted.
Such a brave one.
PT- ‘You just run your mouth.’
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Project much?
It may be a battle of the DJs on early downs for Niners D:
DJ Jones vs. DeeJay Dallas
“Releasing Kwon Alexander with a post-June 1 designation next offseason saves the 49ers $13.4 million in cap space while eating $2.1 million in dead money. The team could do the same with Dee Ford and save $16 million in cap space while having $4.7 million in dead money. Keeping the recent free agents’ streak going, if the Niners did the same with center Weston Richburg, they save $8.3 million in cap space but eat $3.5 million in dead money. By releasing three players who have missed multiple games in back-to-back seasons, you create over $31 million in cap space, assuming OTC’s numbers are correct.”
https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/10/31/21542401/49ers-mailbag-how-can-the-defense-slow-down-seattle-without-a-great-pass-rush
If all that is accurate I would imagine it happens.
With the emergence of Greenlaw and a possibly high draft pick at LB next draft, plus having to resign the best LB in football, that makes perfect sense.
Maybe Jordan Willis becomes this revelation and we don’t have to spend a pick at OLB. I’d say we are due for some good luck considering all the injuries already this year.
The Niners don’t need those three players. Greenlaw is already better then Alexander, Grasu will be better then Richburg once he gets the line calls down, Ford – Fix Or Repair Daily. I am with Razor here, those three are probably gone.
We will need to address those 3 positions nonetheless.
I’ve got a good feeling about the 49ers on Sunday and a real good feeling about the outcome on Tuesday.
Take it to the bank.
Shut up. I have a feeling the election will be stolen, again.
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Even if he loses, he will not accept the outcome.
Tony Oden with CBs and Daniel Bullock with the safeties have done a great job so far considering the injuries. But Sunday will be the biggest test for the pass defense.
I expect the Niners to keep the ball for 35+ minutes and pull off a 38-34 win.
Niners are a balanced team even with all the injuries. They are the league’s only team to rank in the DVOA top 10 on both offense (No. 8) and defense (No. 8).
RIP Sean Connery.
‘Bond. James Bond.’ RIP.
DK Metcalf is 6′ 4″, so he will be able to out jump the DBs. Therefore, I hope the DBs will use the side line as a defensive tactic. Let Metcalf leap up and catch the ball, but grab a leg and drive him out of bounds before he can get 2 feet in bounds.
Maybe try the alley oop!
When ball is the air maybe the DB can slam the ball and the WR in mid air!
Nov.4th, egg in the face or vindication. Tune in
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Team gets some help Coleman and Williams activated.
Thank God, I was dreading Taylor on Lockett.
I thought he did a pretty good job. He might be the starter next year as K’Waun is a free agent isn’t he?
KWilliams will be the one they resign. Taylor is 110th in receptions allowed with a 104.5 passer rating! Lockett would have eviscerated him. They knew they’d be resigning him when they waved bye bye to Reed. Gives them time to groom another NB….
K’Waun might be too expensive.
He was the first player they targeted too, and we’ve seen why. Sherman, Coleman, Richburg, and Alexander should all come off the books next year. That’s how they resign him, and the highest paid slot corner is around $8 million a year….
The two Williams and Juice will be the three players they will target right away, I think.
I think you’re right.
I am watching Wilson of BYU. Good arm strength, accurate throws to different part s of the field, nice touch (puts some air in this throws), solid footwork — very good pocket QB. Difficult to assess poise under pressure, pocket movement, and ability to read defense since he’s a playing a bad team with little pocket pressure. If he’s this good against a good defense, he’s going in the top 10.
I like that he was a walk on too. Will serve him well through adversity. I think he answered any arm strength questions when he uncorked that 70 yarder.
I still question his arm strength…
I judge arms based on sideline routes like outs and comebacks. Deep throws are more about Timing and anticipation to me. That said, I was excited when I heard he threw a 78 bomb… but when I saw that the pass was about 40 air yards I went back to meh. I expect even Mullen’s can throw the ball that far.
Just to clarify, if it sounds like I don’t like him that is not the case at all.
In fact I think it is his physical limitations that will keep him from being taken in the first or second round as in every other way he appears to be an extremely solid prospect. If not for his arm strength/size questions he would almost certainly be a first round prospect.
I must also note that he had a more impressive deep throw that traveled from his 35 to the 5… a 60 air yard pass, which shows promise. I’m just withholding judgment until I get a bigger sample size of him throwing out routes and the like this season.
I’m with Mood. If he continues to play at the level he is against a top defense he’s going in the 1st round.
Shoup, looks like Marino agrees with Mood and myself. His mock just dropped and he’s got Wilson going mid 1st round!
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-marino-3.0
I think you gotta pull the trigger if you’re Shanny. Without a viable starter on the roster behind Jimmy, it’s time to groom your guy for 2022….
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/5-burning-49ers-questions-for-week-8
1. Yes, they seem to be road warriors.
2. Yes, Saleh will have the best secondary he’s ever had.
3. Yes, Shanny is in the zone.
4. Yes, he’s shredded them before.
5. Yes, continuity has reared it’s head and asserted itself, plus Grasu seems to have solidified the middle.
Maybe we see a little of Cracraft since he’s up over White. I think Scooter liked him.
One of the reasons I will never vote for a Republican.
Imagine if they said the 49ers should forfeit all games because you watched it on tv….
Texas Republicans have asked a federal judge to throw out at least 117,000 ballots cast in Harris County, a heavily Democratic area that has experienced an unprecedented surge in early voting this month. The brazen effort to undo legally cast ballots in a diverse, populous county is an eleventh-hour attempt to diminish Joe Biden’s chances of carrying the swing state on Nov. 3. Republicans claim that Harris County’s use of drive-thru voting violates the U.S. Constitution, requiring the judge to throw out every ballot cast this way—more than 117,000 as of Friday. This argument is outrageous and absurd.
No one cares!
you do if your an american
The people that take politicians seriously are the same people who think the stripper likes them!
You seem to have intimate knowledge of that fact. Even the strippers must think you a bloviating blowhard.
Jeff Wilson is the 24th RB that Bobby Turner has coached to run for over 100 yards in a game. He’ll be Hasty in getting to the quarter century landmark….
Well I’m keeping the tradition strong and picking Seattle wins by at Lear 10 points. 35-24… let’s just hope I keep being wrong :).
Niners 23-21. RW intercepted while driving for game winning FG. Niners end it in victory formation.
Niners 24-23. It will be a dogfight, and maybe a ball grabber.
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KS goes bold, and the Seahawks cannot stop the run and protect downfield both at the same time. JG will be the field general, and takes what the defense gives him.
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Seahawks will be at a disadvantage, because they will not be able to rely on the 12th man.
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KS was able to out coach BB. Now is the time for Saleh to out coach Schottenheimer. Warner or Greenlaw up the middle on a delayed blitz, may be able to sack RW.
Wow. Dolphins are picking the Rams pocket. What a blowout.
1. Al Sacco @AlSacco49 Oct 30
A brief scroll though Twitter tells me #49ers fans are worried Shanahan is going to ignore Jamycal Hasty and give Tevin Coleman 20 carries Sunday. But listen…I’m here to tell you… you’re probably right. That’s probably exactly what’s going to happen.
2. Count me in the worried group. 2020 season stats: Coleman 18 carries / 30 yards 1.66 YPC, Hasty 20 carries /103 yards 5.15 YPC. It seems like a no brainer.
3. Big game. Let’s get ready to rumble.
Wouldn’t be so sure about that. Shanny has been rather consistent with players coming off of IR, and the plan has been to ease them in. I’d expect Coleman to get some carries but I think Hasty will get the early opportunities. It’s at that time that Bobby goes to the hot foot so to speak….
Just think what a great play caller Kyle could have been had he listened to these blogs and Twitter for which personnel to use ;-) …
Let’s get ready to rollo?
Well it seems Seb’s man crush on that “Dual-Threat Running Back” down in Baltimore was unfounded.
The boy still hasn’t learned how to throw.
The boy? ?
Sorry, Ribico. Came out wrong. That should read:
“The non-binary still hasn’t learned how to throw.”
Appreciate the correction.
Uh huh.
Matt Barrows
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1h
WR Dante Pettis, who played his college ball in Seattle, is active for the first time since Week 4:
#49ers inactives:
QB Beathard
LB Alexander (ankle)
SS Tartt (groin)
WR Samuel (hamstring)
WR James (ankle)
CB Ken Webster
Dugar, Michael-Shawn
@MikeDugar
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Seahawks inactives
Jamal Adams
Shaq Griffin
Carlos Hyde
Mike Iupati
Benson Mayowa
Chris Carson
Ugo Amadi
Pound the rock – Control the clock
Pack loses, Rams lose.
*Mr. Burns voice* “Excellent”
WTH was that for a play call by KS. Maybe if it had been executed quickly, but it was so slow to setup.
Someone missed a block I think. (hopeful thinking)
I’m wondering if he’s trying to set up the ‘Hags D for a different play later on; but I can’t imagine what it would be.
Maybe if Jimmy gives a wide open Kittle a decent chance of catching a pass.
Garoppolo report:
First series – Jimmy misses a wide open Kittle in the middle of the field, and the 49ers ultimately have to punt. Questionable 3rd down play call for Kyle, but ultimately, these are the games when hitting wide open receivers is paramount. Not good enough so far!
Come on Hasty! Can’t cough it up!
Need and overturn call here
Got lucky! Then Jimmy throws a lollipop
Run the ball what is wrong with you Shanny.
And a beautiful pass from Jimmy to his old teammate DJ Reed, which makes it another poor INT from Jimmy G!.
Garoppolo report: Single-handedly keeping Seattle’s poor defense in the game. Welcome to Garoppolo 2020 where the motto is ….. every downfiled pass is an adventure!
The offense really needed to take advantage of the good play by the 49ers defense. Not good.
God dammit Jimmy. So tired of his crap.
I have been spending my time all week telling everyone Shanahan should NOT play Hasty on the road.
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It looks like Shanny wants to make it twice as hard to win.
Sure you have. Please. We all have better memories than Joe Biden.
This catfsh sure tries hard, but I have been touting Hasty since TC.
Change your avatar and use a different email. Stop living in the technological stone ages and defeat the catfish if indeed it is a catfish.
Personally I think its all part of your demented existence but here is your chance to prove it wrong and help the blog.
If Shanahan’s offense wasn’t stinking up the joint we could have put Seattle behind the 8ball.
Come on Shoup, it’s 2020, which makes it a QB driven league! It’s very tough too put together a great offense when you simply cannot trust your QB! Would you trust Jimmy if you were Kyle?
You trust this drive?
Pretty darn good quarterbacking there.
That pass to Bourne on the out was fantastic. Why is Jimmy so inconsistent?
Don’t tell me he’s still young.
I might buy the injury thing. But still..
He’s not being able to drive off that leg with the high ankle sprain.
49,
You have to, if for no other reason than that you have to know what you have at qb by the end of this season. This team will not win a sb this year without Jimmy being a key part of it and if they don’t win you have to give Jimmy a long leash and prove himself one way or another.
Shoup, you don’t think Kyle would love to take shots downfield, like he did with Atlanta? It’s an adventure every time Jimmy drops back to pass. One thing Kyle knows as FACT … you can’t win in this league if your QB is consistently giving the ball away, and/or missing wide open receivers. I feel bad for Hasty, as Jimmy’s ineffectiveness has forced Kyle to put the game in the rookie RB’s hands. Doesn’t quite seem fair at this point, but when you literally find yourself holding your breath every time Jimmy drops back to pass, what else are you going to do?
By the way Shoup, when was the last time you saw Jimmy anticipate pressure and use his legs to buy time for nice downfield completion? Like …. 2017 maybe
Face it Forty Niner Faithful … for whatever reason, Jimmy Garoppolo has never been anywhere near the same QB he was prior to injuring his knee. I like the kid, and I’ve been rooting for him, but I’ve come to a conclusion that it’s either one of two things:
1) 2017 was a mirage
2) Jimmy simply is unable to return to form post knee injury, BOTH mentally and physically. He has happy feet and poor mechanics, to go a long with a lack of both confidence and mobility.
Let’s hope Kyle can fix the QB position, because it’s going to be an uphill battle to compete in the league’s best division, when your QB is the second best on the field, facing 2 of league’s most dynamic QB’s who can win with their legs and their arms.
The only thing more comical than watching Kyle try to protect his “franchise QB” is watching a boy, like Dante Pettis, play a man’s sport!
Shame on ShanaLynch for mishandling Garoppolo post-injury, and also shame on them for allowing Pettis to embarrass the fan base this many years after he should have been cut!
Time for ShanaLynch to cut Pettis (yesterday) and start looking ahead and figuring out how best to replace their QB.
Niners have now lost the advantage they had at the beginning of the game. They won’t do well playing from behind.
So far Shanny calling a terrible game.
Well, this is awkward.
You nailed it the play calling is awkward.
That’s what the Niners do they run the ball.
Oops ?
I love Moseley, but he’s not a starter. Has physical limitations.
Metcalfe is taking this secondary to the woodshed.
Let’s see what adjustments Saleh makes on Metcalfe the 2nd half.
Way ahead of you. I got Witherspoon smothering him the entire second half!
Who?
That was a selfish self-promotion type play by McKinnon.
Should be starting Moore over Ward at Free Safety to use his speed to double. Metcalf clearly going to dominate our smaller CBs.
O-Line not figuring out blitz pickup.
Same story. If they can’t get the running game going, the offense is hosed because they can’t pass block in obvious passing situations.
Saleh opens up with the right plan, and then starts leaving Metcalf singled up. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?
Shanny with McKinnon at qb? Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?
Jimmy is throwing the ball like a 17 year old girl. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?
Gawd, I’d like to be a fly on that halftime wall! Let’s Eucking go!
Seems like on a number of plays, the Hags D has been perfectly positioned. Jimmy G needs to improvise more; a perfect example was that throw behind the LOS across the field which resulted in lost yardage.
I say let Jimmy cook!
Why would he make that pass? The entire defense was on that side of the field?
Jimmy played terrible today.
Exactly. I keep thinking it’s because he wants to please KS, but, forget that; Jimmy needs to trust his instincts.
Terrible start.
D.J. Reed ran over Mike McGlinchey on the blitz…D.J. Reed! McGlinchey will never learn to pass block.
He got completely blown up. Embarrassing!
McGlinchy is a lazy fool and worthless excuse of a top 10 pick.
And to think he was supposed to learn from Staley and become the left tackle of the future.
It’s clear which team has all of the momentum. Niners O and Jimmy in particular look scared.
Yeah, Niners are playing scared.
This game is now becoming a joke.
An embarrassing game for Kyle, John, Jimmy, and the Forty Niner Faithful! Sure, injuries are a major factor, but this team was defeated prior to kickoff. Instead of taking advantage of an opportunity to jump on Seattle early, the 49ers showed zero sense of urgency, and Jimmy did what he learned to do best … missed a wide open Kittle, followed by a poor decision and even a more poorly thrown ball that resulted in an INT. It was basically game over at that point as Kyle and Jimmy climbed into their prospective shells, and went down without even putting up a fight!
It’s a fitting end to ShanaLynch and Garoppolo’s 2020 post season aspirations. And unfortunately, I think the repercussions for this kind of performance again their biggest foe, runs deeper than we can even contemplate at the moment.
I feel like it’s time to recognize that this Jimmy Garoopolo we’ve seen post ACL tear is not anywhere near the same QB we saw prior to his injury. His mechanics are getting worse by the game, and so is his decision making process. It’s glaringly obvious that Garoppolo has lost his swagger. The confidence he showed in 2017 is but a distant memory. In a league that has developed into a pass-to-set-up-the-run (in part because the rules are designed to protect the QB and advantageous towards the receivers) Kyle’s forced to try to win using the opposite approach (if the 49ers can’t establish the run early, they are DEAD in the water).
As I posted last week, this is a strategy which is simply unsustainable. Sure, you can have succes in those games where your running game outclasses the opposing defense, but when you face an defense that is hell bent on taking that a way combined with an offense with a mobile QB who can beat you with his legs and arm, it’s simply too much to ask from your team on a regular basis.
It all starts with the QB. In this modern (2020) era, you simply have to have a reliable QB who makes smart decisions, and can make the occasional off schedule play with his arm or his legs. That’s not who Jimmy has been post injury. How is it possible that a QB with his experience and training, plays like a rookie quarterback?
BOTTOM LINE FOR ME: Kyle has done everything in his power to protect his QB ever since he returned from his season-ending knee reconstruction. And, while at times this strategy has worked, moving forward it’s hard to see how you can consistently compete compete against the league’s better teams, when one of your weakest links is your QB. The one constant in an ever evolving league, is that it is a quarterback driven league. Working around the challnges of the salary cap becomes nearly impossible, if you can’t trust your “$30M franchise QB.”
What a shame!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1_P7U7YicY
Activated Pettis for that?
Pettis was activated to showcase him for a trade. We’re still in the preseason.
Sorry – didn’t see your later post.
The only thing Pettis showcased is that he’s not an NFL player.
But it also was a terrible move on Shanahan’ part to put Pettis in during a critical time.
The first time I saw Pettis (in his rookie year) flinch with alligator arms going over the middle, was a bad omen for me. Hate to admit it, but he is not cut out for this sport.
That said, this game was lost because Shanahan went away from his early game plan and became predictable. Jimmy was not right today. He looked shaky and tentative.
If he’s still to injured to play than be honest about it and go on IR.
One thing has become critically clear – We need to find and groom a dual threat QB. Statue type QB’s are quickly becoming obsolete given the elite speed of defensive players.
Pettis is a joke!
Worst trade showcase ever.
Only chance now is to try to stay balanced on offense and hope for some Seahawk turnovers. If they pass only, it will only become a bigger blowout.
Back to square one. Or week five.
Did anybody really think that the Niners, with this current team , was going to go into Seattle and win? Come on fellas! They ‘d have trouble if they had their complete roster playing today, like they do every time they come to this house of horrors. No surprise here. They’re playing against the NFL MVP of the year, and the best quarterback in the league, and most likely the Super Bowl team from the NFC this year. This is what these kind of teams do to NFL JV teams like the Ni era are right now. Forget about it and enjoy your beer and family today! That’s what I’m doing! Cheers! The only question in this game is where they will reach the O/U 54 or not!
Well, yeah. Niners had been playing well, had some momentum. Arizona showed Seahawks could be had. They just laid a big egg today.
49ers offense has 108 yards so far
Jimmy G was terrible today! And I would make the oline walk home tonight.
Right, because the screens and forward handoffs weren’t called. He’s terrible and so is the offensive line.
He just didn’t play well. He is allowed to have a bad day.
Let’s not exaggerate the unnecessary typical 49er fan base QB conundrum.
He hasn’t played well the last two weeks either. When asked to actually throw the ball forward he was mediocre.
Here we go……
Here we go? I said the same thing after the LA game and after last week.
Naw he’s not allowed to have a bad day. Forget all the wins. They lost to Seattle and it’s time to trade him. Forget all the missing players and his bad ankle. F Jimmy. Time to trade for a winner like Sam Darnold. JFC.
J.P., you know I’ve been one of Jimmy’s strongest defenders, right? I’m not always right, but when I am wrong, I’ll admit it. And holy fricken cow …. boy was I wrong about Jimmy Garoppolo!
Having gone back and watched every single play Jimmy made (and occasionally missed) for the 49ers in 2017, prior to his knee reconstruction, I can say with 100% certainty that there are a number of things about Jimmy’s game that have changed drastically and dramatically post-injury. I will be fair and I will account for everything from his ankle injury, to Kyle’s play-calling, to Jimmy’s protection from the boys up front.
Now that the Seahawk’s have (unsurprisingly for me) all but eliminated the 49ers post-season hopes in embarrassing fashion today, I think it’s time to do a postmortem breakdown of the 49ers 2020 season, which in some ways, feels like an extension of their 4th QTR collapse in Super Bowl LIV. No question that injuries have been a major factor in the 49ers disappointing revenge tour, but I think the 49ers issues go deeper than that, and it’s starts with their QB.
It’s time for an extensive, in-depth breakdown of Jimmy Garoppolo’s roller coaster performance as the starting QB for the San Francisco 49ers. I am going to go back and analyze what I saw from Jimmy when he first got on the field at the end of 2017. And I’ll go through everything I saw during his ups and downs of what was otherwise a magical season in 2019 (post-injury), all the way through the first 8 weeks of the 2020 season. And in doing so I will emphasize what I consider to be drastic differences in Jimmy’s quarterbacking, comparing everything he was doing at QB prior to his injury, as compared to what I’ve seen from him since his return in 2019.
Stay tuned.
Before I get a chance to post this breakdown I want to make one thing very clear. I take no joy in feeling the way I feel about Jimmy. In fact, it pains me to go through this. I would like nothing more than to believe that Jimmy is the right man for Kyle’s 49ers moving forward. I like Jimmy a lot. I think he’s a terrific person. Not long ago I was pretty well convinced that he was the right man to lead this team into the future. Prior to his knee injury, he seemed like a near perfect match for Kyle Shanahan, and a perfect pairing at QB for one of the league’s best offensive play callers. In terms of what people refer to as the “intangibles”, Jimmy seemed to have it all. He had a quiet confidence about him, appropriately level headed as the team’s vocal leader. He seems like a smart, intelligent football player. He carried himself with a quiet confidence, always standing string within the pocket, and never shying away from taking a hard hit, showing that brand of gritty, hard-nosed toughness of which his teammates seemed to feed off of. He seems like the ideal player to model the franchise, exactly what you look for when it comes to being the leader of men. Always the first to shoulder the blame when things are going wrong, and always looking to give credit to others when things were going right. Did I mention that he is handsome? Boy how things can change. I’ll get my Jimmy G. breakdown and analysis together as soon as I can, because unfortunately, the time has come.
What time is it? It’s time to take a serious look at the 49ers starting QB position in 2021 and beyond. Mark your calender’s. The Seahawks pummeled the 49ers into submission today, Sunday, November 1st, 2020. The Seahawks victory today all but sealed the 49ers fate this season. It’s hard to imagine this injury riddled, inconsistent Niners’ football team, recovering from today’s beatdown. Because of this, it’s officially time to start looking at who should be leading the 49ers at the most important position in all of professional sports – the QUARTERBACK position, moving forward!
Dude get over yourself. You are a fair weather fan who is a front runner. You throw out all this positive PR BS and bail when things go sideways. Garoppolo is playing through a high ankle sprain behind an OL that has been woefully inconsistent from week to week while not having the same lineup in tact for more than a week at a time. Here’s some analysis for you: Garoppolo took this team to the SB last year, he wins a lot more than he loses and he stands in there and plays even though he is clearly struggling with the injury. The team is far from being out of the picture at 4-4. There is no team Seattle included that is dominating the NFC right now but you and Cubus and Scooter McG feel free to commiserate some more on how this team is done and howthey should trade JG. We all need a laugh during these trying times.
Notanexpert, maybe I’ll do a breakdown, and maybe I won’t, because it really doesn’t matter what I think about Jimmy or what you think about Jimmy. What matters is wha Kyle thinks about his QB. And after what we witnessed from Kyle’s play calling throughout the 2019 postseason, and now again halfway through 2020, it doesn’t take a leap to conclude that Jimmy Garoppolo has regressed. It’s not hard to understand why it is that Kyle has been calling the the type of game plan we’ve seen over the course of the last few game. Coming off of last season’s postseason, it’s like deja vu, all over gain. Jimmy played poorly against the Cardinals to kick off the season, and it’s basically been downhill from there for Jimmy, now in his 7th season. The guy is simply a mess. The 49ers are unable to win games unless the offense is carried by their running game. That simply isn’t a formula for success in 2020.
As a fan, you certainly have every right to accept this kind of poor play from the team’s $100+ Million QB, that’s your perogative. Me on the other hand, am the type of fan that demands accountability from the team’s highest paid players. Having grown up a huge fan of this storied franchise during the 1980’s, having attended most of the Niners home games at the Stick (thanks to my father being a season ticket holder) I feel comfortable holding players to a certain standard.
Kyle Shanahan is one of the best, if not the best offensive mind in the NFL. If Kyle is designing game plans that are specifically to protect his franchise QB, well then, you can bet that there is a good reason for this. And, if you have to protect your franchise QB by calling a bunch of dink and dunk WR runs, screens, with a majority of pass plays traveling less than 10 yards through the air, that’s a major problem. What we saw today was embarrassing, and because it was the biggest game of the season, against a team I have grown to absolutely hate, I am incensed.
There comes a time during most NFL seasons, which become an inflection point. It’s a time when you realize that what you are doing simply isn’t good enough.
Today was that day!
Must be that dang Seattle crowd noise….or maybe the riots.
The entire team Is terrible today.
Jimmy puss’d out today!
Just out of curiosity, when looking at the schedule before the season started, is there anybody out there that chalked in a W for this game in Seattle? Those that did raise your hands!!!
Hey little Nicky is in yay!!
I wish they would just let Jimmy cook :D or rather fry himself.
I don’t want any questions going into the offseason, and if he keeps playing like this SF can just release him and with Kwon and a few others and have all the space in the world. The only problem is SF will be looking for a qb… but maybe they can get someone like Darnold from the Jets for a reclamation project and draft someone to try and build up.
It can’t be much worse than what we have been putting out there this season no matter who it is.
Darnold instead of Jimmy G?
How much do you guys actually drink on game day?
Prime,
If Jimmy keeps playing like he has then SF needs to move on.
I want to hope it’s the high ankle sprain but but this week and his issues against AZ are making everyone with eyes take a real strong second look. If Jimmy keeps playing at this level… he isn’t better than Sam.
And yeah I suggested Darnold because he is a guy that you could get on the cheap (he wont even cost 10 mil to Jimmys near 27), that can throw the ball well and is smart enough for Kyle to manage properly. Additionally it’s tough to know how bad he is given he is playing for the worst coach in football.
I don’t want to see Jimmy again until that ankle is 100%. Releasing him after this year is a bad idea. You draft a quarterback to groom for a year behind him, while at the same time see if Jimmy improves. If he doesn’t you can still release him in 2022 with an even smaller cap hit….
Exactly! A full and healthy roster next year with some key upgrades buys us time to draft and develop a successor.
Starting over with the likes of Darnold, Cousins, Ryan is a bad idea. Wont happen.
It’s funny how after every loss it’s Jimmy G cut him day.
FFS,
The plan with someone like Darnold is nothing like it would be with a Cousins or Ryan.
1 of the 3 is cheap and a bridge qb with the upside to be a solid starter for years to come if developed.
The other 2 are more expensive and are win now qb’s if you think it is only the qb holding you back.
Talk about exaggerating.
You have a guy possibly struggling with a lingering injury, a team struggling overall and you want to cut him loose and go with someone else in the meantime while you draft and develop a guy?
If any of you are looking at the 4-4 record this year and saying it’s on the QB, stop watching. You have no clue what’s happening.
Prime,
1st I never said they should move on.
I said “if” he keeps playing like this, then the team should look to move on. I said this because this year… he wasn’t good against AZ, Was good against the worst team in the NFL, then horrible when he came back to early, was not good against the rams, was OK against NE, and then was terrible against the worst defense in the NFL (history actually) this week.
And if we want to say well he was injured, the problem is he has been injured more often than he’s been healthy. He needs to play and play well to justify keeping his contract on this team because right now he is the trailer not the tractor on this teams trip to wins.
I agree with Shoup on this. Keeping Jimmy around for another season, is only likely to cause more problems next season. If Kyle decides that Jimmy is no longer the long term solution, the best thing to do is rip the band aid off and move on without him. The last thing any team needs is a good old fashion QB controversy, which is exactly what you are asking for in 2021, if you end up keeping Jimmy around for another season. We’ve seen that movie before! Garoppolo is just good enough to give fans an inspired performance every now and then, which usually makes replacing the incumbent QB even more difficult than it otherwise should be.
Personally, I’ve seen enough. I no longer believe Jimmy can regain the form we saw prior to his injury. He’s nothing more than a broken down QB, who makes poor decisions on a regular basis.
I would be remiss if I didn’t add Jimmy’s poor mechanics as another obvious reason he seems unable to reach his full potential. For whatever reason, some athletes can come back from knee reconstruction, and some athletes can’t. At this point, it seems pretty clear to me that Jimmy is the latter. Whether the knee brace is a factor or not, I don’t know. What I do know is that something is dreadfully wrong with this QB, and he’s nowhere near the same QB we saw in 2017.
In fact, Jimmy Garoppolo seems to be regressing on a weekly basis. The NFL is an unforgiving league. You either swim, or you sink, and Jimmy is taking on water fast.
I don’t even know that the ankle can be blamed any more…
He missed 2 games then played in 3 games… this should have been the end of week 6 in terms of recovery. Honestly I think he just has some major bad habits he needs to overcome and his balls have always tended to sail because he has never learned to set his feet. This goes back to NE and his fist stint with SF.
You can’t recover if you’re playing on it and keep tweaking it! 6 week recovery means 6 weeks of rest. I don’t know if this guy’s flaws can be corrected, or how much his poor play is attributed to that ankle injury, but I’d sure like to find out before I just throw him away….
A normal recovery for a high angle sprain is 8 weeks!
The recovery time is usually 4 to 6 weeks not 8.
Shoup, like Razor said, 6 weeks no activity. 8 weeks to 3 months is typical recovery for these type of injuries. Its sometimes worse than a break or fracture.
This is not true.
Depending on severity athletes can return to sports related activities by the end of 2 weeks, full recovery usually takes 4 to 6 weeks.
*note* Last year Mahomes missed 3 weeks due to the same injury and he also really struggled to drive the ball down the field only throwing for 446 yards and 3 tds in his first game back .
And before you start I know every injury is different.
Maybe it was a mistake to bring him back so early… but if he can’t throw the ball then he shouldn’t be playing.
Sorry that the bean counter in me is taking over but, as much as I am a Jimmy G fan, he has a terrible record of playing consecutive games without injury. Remember that his only opportunity to start behind Brady ended up with him getting injured and being replaced by the next man up who eventually was again replaced by Brady. When Brady was the next man up never gave up his position. (Joe Montana and Steve Young also come to mind) Looks like he is carrying on the tradition with the 9ers although I have to wonder if his principal injury now is between the ears.
He’s still got a pretty good W-L record even if you don’t give him full credit for all of them. I would caution getting rid of him without another starter on the roster….
W-L Record A-/B+
Staying Healthy Record D
No question in my mind – Mullens gets the start against GB – I don’t care if Jimmy is healthy, which I’m sure he won’t be.
You remember the Philly game?
Yeah, but OL is overall playing better. JImmy’s not cutting it, Prime – whatever the reason. As we discussed above – how do you make that pass across the field behind the LOS, when most of the Seattle DL is there and I’m sure Jimmy could sense the density of players there. On his side (at least on TV) it looked like he had plenty of running room.
I agree that play was a bad decision but he obviously can’t run or step into throws.
No excuses but it’s pretty clear he was hobbling on the sidelines
Haven’t had a chance to watch the game, so only basing this on what I have read, but I think that might be it for JG in terms of being the QB for the 49ers beyond this season. Going to be hard for him to win Shanahan’s trust back over the next 8 games. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he gets traded before the deadline just to free up cap space heading into next year, and certainly wouldn’t be surprised if he loses the starting job to Mullens for next week.
A shame, as he has ability, but just too inconsistent and he has looked off all season bar that 1st quarter against the Jets.
Yep, Scooter. I’ve been thinking the same thing about a trade. If New England wants him back for a 2nd round pick, they should do it. As I’ve been saying – I just don’t think there is synergy between Jimmy and KS – it’s only a gut feeling.
Here’s the thing. After his 2017 debut and big contract, one of the things that JL mentioned was Jimmy’s ability to make offschedule plays; but when have we seen that in recent years. Basically, if the play is covered by the opposing defense, it’s over.
A 2nd round pick for an injured quarterback whose stock is at an all time low? Good luck!
Hey, I’m still trying to stay positive. :)
But seriously, I’m hoping that the history and desperate QB situation in NE might help. But they’ll probably try out Stidham first.
Yeah, 2nd rounder seems very hopeful. I honestly think the 49ers might be willing to take not a lot in trade compensation just to get the contract off the books now, so they not only get the cap saving by removing future years but also some carry over from this year. But the more likely scenario is waiting until the offseason, as finding a trade partner now will be difficult and they might get a little bit more in a trade if they wait.
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Watch the game.
LOL. You emotional fans crack me up. Jimmy’s done, they need to trade Jimmy, nobody will give up much for Jimmy. Take a freaking stiff drink and sleep it off. They aren’t trading him and he’s not done in anybody’s eyes except for maybe crazy people like you all. This team is having a season from hell due to injuries, Jimmy included and they sure as hell aren’t blowing it all up when they haven’t had a healthy team at any point this season. For whatever reason the SB runner up often has a down year the following season and that is exactly what is happening. The are 4-4 at the half way point with everything going against them. If and that’s a big IF they can get some players back and keep the same group on the field for a few weeks they have as good a shot to make the playoffs as any other team in the NFC because there is no dominant teams in this conference.
If the OL was so bad today, why didn’t Mullens have much of a problem. He’s even more of a statue than Jimmy G.
And before you say it was garbage time, imo, there is no garbage time when Seattle and SF play. The Seahawks D has been battered by their fans and press (I live in Seattle, so I know) and they wanted to prove something; they weren’t about to let up. Further, the 49ers almost got to within 8 points with plenty of time – so no way Seattle D was playing garbage time in the 4th Q.
I’m actually a big Jimmy G fan – I’ve defended him many times on this blog. But frankly, there has been no growth over the last three years in terms of his consistency; ability to complete a modestly deep ball, etc. The truth is that KS didn’t want him. Don’t you remember that story J Lynch told about how despondent KS was when he learned he couldn’t get Kirk because they had Jimmy. Lynch tried to laugh it off but there was a lot of truth to it.
Ultimately the decision is Shanahan’s. It’s his offense so I say give him who he wants if at all possible. If that’s Cousins, or Garappolo, or Wentz or Darnold, or whoever is available that he wants then so be it. In three years, I’ve seen no synergy between KS and JG.
Finally, why can’t you respond without being condescending or calling people names.
cubus,
The worst part was this was Jimmy against literally the worst defense in the NFL.
Here is a look at how other qb’s did against them… Matt Ryan 450 yrds, Cam freaking Newton 397 yrds, Dak Prescott yrds, Fitzpatrick 315 yrds, Cousins 249, Kyler Murray 360, Jimmy G. 84 yrds…
They are averaging giving up over 370 passing yards per game and Jimmy can’t even reach a hundred.
That is cause for concern.
Calling people crazy for wanting to trade/move on from a QB less than a year removed from the SB is accurate sorry if the truth hurts. They couldn’t run the ball which is when they struggle. They also pressured JG on 9 of ten drops. He was not good. Nobody was.
You’re right, JG’s been entirely a victim of bad luck.
I’m trying not to have an extreme reaction, like Jimmy must go or Jimmy is amazing when healthy.
That is why I want Jimmy to play and Kyle to try and run his normal offense. What I don’t want to see is SF going into this offseason with maybe’s regarding Jimmy. I want to see either yup we can work with that, Jimmy had a rough patch but he fought though it, or No, we have to move on.
The curse of the almost good qb is one of the worst things a team can be affected with as they don’t know how to build the team going for it.
At the start of the year I was very much of the opinion that this year was make or break for JG as a 49er. The fact they chose not to rework his deal was a huge indicator to me that the whispers that Shanahan wasn’t 100% sold on him and felt he needed to “hide” him at times last year held at least some water. And I genuinely thought he would prove the doubters wrong.
But it hasn’t worked out that way. I know he got injured. I know the team is dealing with a lot of injuries. But it’s now his 4th year with the team and he is in his late 20s. Using injuries or how many starts he has had is no longer a valid excuse. Saying he was a SB QB last year doesn’t make him a great QB, just good enough to lead a great team under the right circumstances.
The question marks on him at the end of last year were valid, if somewhat overblown. The problem is, injuries to the team and himself or not, he has not done anything to answer any of those question marks this year, and if anything they have deepened. Now he is injured again, and running out of games to prove he can be a consistently good QB before the end of the season.
If they aren’t 100% convinced JG is their long term starter at the end of the season then they need to draft a QB high as the long term replacement. And at this point I find it hard to see how they can feel 100% confident in him moving forward – halfway through the year and he has looked poor more often than not.
Whether they keep JG or not as a placeholder next year I don’t know, but I doubt they would unless they still believe he can be their future as they are going to be under a lot of salary cap pressure and moving on from JG next year would free up a lot of space.
That is precisely my thought process Scooter.
However, if they decide to he is not the answer going forward, then their is no point in keeping him as a place holder IMO. I would rather have that money to fill in some holes so the new qb can have a more complete team to work with.
The thing is, if Shanahan has a smart accurate qb with just the requisite arm strength, I think he can manufacture a lot of offense on his own. (Note, I do question if he could deal with the ego of an elite qb though or if he is capable of creating one with his tendency to want to over control things).
They have no idea what they have in Garoppolo yet, but by the end of the season they should have enough to make an educated decision….
That’s the point Razor… I want to know by seasons end just what we have in him. I don’t want to rush to trade him prior to the deadline and I don’t want Mullen’s starting over him unless he’s seriously injured.
If this team wants to be a super bowl contender next year he has to be a reason why. And if he doesn’t show himself as such then they are probably looking at a 2 year plan sadly.
So what if he goes on for instance, knock on wood, season ending IR. Would you guys resign him?
Teams don’t trade QBs who win at the rate this guy has. Finding QBs is hard and you don’t dump one and start over because he’s struggled with an injury. That is fan overreaction and thankfully the guys in charge don’t think that way.
I agree.
I’m really not over reacting or being “emotional” as you have suggested. It is just extremely strange that of all the guys they could have extended, they didn’t extend JG. He made the most sense to extend… if they believed in him. Huge opportunity to move cap hits to future years. Instead they extended a bunch of guys that were big question marks as to their future due to injury, one of which has now been traded.
As it is they can still get out of his contract easily. They wanted to see more before committing to him longer term. And he has done nothing more to convince the team this season. Personally I believe if you don’t think JG is on the hot seat then you are intentionally blinding yourself.
That’s true Scooter but maybe his contract and what they want to do is more sophisticated. If I were 49ers management, Id offer a 3 year deal, at $75million BUT I would draft a successor in round 2, 3 or 4 without a doubt.
There is absolutely no need to extend JG unless they believe he is their future. Still 2 years left on his contract. You don’t extend if you aren’t sure on him as you don’t want to push a big amount of potential dead money into future years.
I thought he was up this year. Someone mentioned this was the year to get out without a cap penalty. My bad.
If he has 2 years left I’d keep him and draft his successor. That might be what pushes him.
Jimmy is the QB. He’s good. The whole team is decimated right now, it was always going to be difficult. The season is still very much alive, second and third guessing at this stage is pointless.
IIRC, you’re singing a different tune than from last year. What changed?
Cubus, there are a lot of fans right now frustrated with the way this year started and the way it’s going.
Before any decisions are made on personnel the organization has to once again look deep into their strength and conditioning program as well as over all health care team.
I think the Jimmy G backlash from today is a little exaggerated. He hasn’t played well all year to be honest. But why? There are a lot of layers to peel back before we release him and start over. It’s week 8. Lots of football left.
Lots of things changed, much stayed the same too, my opinion on these things has merely evolved over time. I believe that Jimmy is the least of the roster issues right now. This team is injured to hell and back, and yet they are still competing. That’s a testament to the coaching staff, the mental strength of the culture, and yes, the Quarterback.
O ye of little faith, JG was not the problem. He got rocked, then injured. Looking at last game, when he had time, he was impressive. Today, Ken Norton dialed up some blitzes up the middle, and the Niners had no answer. I sure wished Saleh had dialed some A gap blitzes.
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I am glad KS put the blame on himself, because he deserved it. Putting in Pettis as the KR was a head scratcher. Usually, it is best to put a player in their best positions to succeed. Accentuate their strengths. Pettis’s strength is not as a KR.
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The onside kick at 4 minutes was another head scratcher. It just gave them a short field to score on. They should have kicked the ball high in the air so the ball lands on the 3 yard line, so he has to run with the ball. Then, hopefully, pin him before he gets to the 20 yard line. They should have trusted their defense to make a stop, instead of panicking, making unwise decisions. The 49er onside kicks looked bad, with little chance for success. Maybe they should tell Wishnowsky to drill the ball so it bounces before it gets to the up man, then hopes it glances off him for a live ball, which the Niners can recover.
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Once again, I see KS trying to play OC. When things go awry, he tended to get a brain freeze, and forgot he needed to be the HC. Pete Carroll certainly out coached KS. Maybe KS needs to promote Bobby Turner to OC, and concentrate on being the HC. When KS lined up JG wide, the Seahawks ignored him and played 11 on 10. No wonder it did not work.
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I thought Saleh could match up well against Schottenheimer, but he got schooled.
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The Niners shot themselves in the foot again. The unforced errors led to 2 turnovers, and they lost by 2 scores.
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Burning time outs with over 3 minutes to play, aided the Seahawks because they had plenty of time to devise successful plays. Then, in the end, the Niners had to helplessly watch as they were powerless to stop the clock.
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Back to JG, he just needs better support, from the players to the coaches. They should not move him unless they have a better replacement. Mullens, while good, is not it. Drafting a replacement is a multi year process.
Seb,
Good points.
The Pettis move was bad.
The “cute” play with Jimmy as a receiver was a waste and dangerously risky.
The onside kick with 4 min left was terrible and costly.
There’s a lot to blame this loss on, but for me, it starts with Shanahan.
When is Kyle Shanahan going to learn when he keeps it simple they win. When he gets too creative and goes all gadget plays, they lose.
I’m still blaming this teams misfortunes this year to the injury bug. There is zero continuity in all 3 phases. To me it makes all the difference.
No doubt injuries make a huge difference. But there are still bright spots in individual play – Kittle, Juice, Aiyuk, Samuel, Mostert, Jeff Wilson, etc. Has Jimmy had one game or even one drive this year where you said to yourself – yeah, we really need to keep this guy, injuries be damned.
Yes he has engineered a few drives this year where I’ve said, this is a big drive we need to score. There have also been other drives and he has crapped the bed.
My point is at the end of the year we can make comments like we should keep Jimmy or we shouldn’t keep Jimmy. I’m saying its week eight and people are totally overreacting.
I’m more concerned with:
1.Why all these injuries are happening?
2.Why our offensive line can’t pass protect?
3.Why do we have zero pass rush?
I’d give Jimmy the benefit of a doubt based on his winning record when he’s been healthy.
I would give him another season with the hope that he comes back at full strength.
But that does not dismiss the fact that we need to take a serious look at a QB in next year’s draft. I don’t see us making a QB pick early, perhaps 4th rd could garner a player who could be groomed for the future.
We could possibly be in the 15 to 20 range in the draft.
Lynch and Shanahan suddenly have a critical 2021 draft on their hands.
What do you do with CJ and Mullen’s?
The fact we have 3 QB’s on the roster makes no sense. Who stays and if your looking for a future QB in the draft, most likely it’s round 2 or 3.
I think they should continue to build around Jimmy rather than look to replace him.
We have so many other areas to address specifically CB, pass rusher, offensive line and LB.
I don’t see Sherman back, Dee Ford or Trent Williams.
What do you do with CJ and Mullens?
Nothing, they are both free agents this offseason. You can resign one of them for a backup if you like, or if you trade for a stopgap qb and draft a qb, the team would have its starter and backup.
If (“If” being the key word), SF decides Jimmy is not the answer and they move on… his salary + the savings from releasing Kwon, Ford and Richburg in addition to what they already have, would give this team more than 50 mil to play with, if my math is correct. You can address a lot of issues with that kind of cap space.
Everyone keeps talking about letting Jimmy G go, well who is out there that is better in free agency or via trade?
Please don’t say Sam Darnold again. Or Matt Ryan.
The most likely scenario is keep Jimmy G and draft a successor. It has a sparked Aaron Rodgers so maybe it will do the same for Garoppolo.
I hated the the seb play with Jimmy going out to wr, to me it showed that Kyle was trying to manufacture offense and didn’t trust his team .
Pettis should be gone.
I didn’t have a problem with the onside kick at all. The defense was struggling to stop the hawks and it was a 2 score game with 4 minutes left. With the understanding that even to get 1 score in that scenario, 2 + minutes are almost guaranteed to be coming off that clock ,even if SF uses all its TO’s to get the ball back and that is a best case scenario.
I expect Kittle and Jimmy will sit this game out. Nick will get Reed back, and we’ll have to bring up Walter.
I expected SF to lose this game handily.
However, I expected that to happen in a very different way. I expected Russ to light up this defense with no pressure in his face the way he has been playing, but I also expected Jimmy to play well against the worst pass defense in the NFL. I was hoping that even with a bad loss he would have something to build on going forward… but this was a bad look. Not gaining even a 100 yards in three quarters against a defense that is giving up 370 yrds per game on average is a major cause for concern. Especially given even qb’s that struggle with accuracy were lighting up this defense.
What was most concerning to me was that before this week it looked to me like Jimmy was getting a bit better, he was throwing the ball down field a bit more last week. Not a lot, but still it looked like it was trending in the right direction. His accuracy in this game was a definite step back, more in line with something between what we saw against Miami and LA.
I sure wished you were wrong, but you were right.
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I said that I had a bad feeling about this game, because I felt Pete Carroll was smart enough to devise a game plan to out coach KS.
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Still this was a winnable game, because the score was 13-7 at the half. Too bad the Seahawks made the right adjustments, and KS used Pettis as the KR.
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I still have faith in JG. He is very capable of winning games, but he needs better support. It does not help when 7 starters on defense have gone down due to injury.
I saw one Niner DB who covered his face with eye black. Maybe he should not waste time putting on make up, and use that time studying the play book better.
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Sure, it looks cool when they win, but when they lose, it looks like clown paint.
A weird and horrible yet totally predictable incident caused me to miss the 49er debacle. I was doing some morning shopping and on the way back a bunch of trumppeee supporters blocked traffic on the freeway for 2 hours. Then, a separate but equally El-tardo group blocked traffic on a bridge. Finally , operation little d!ck , surrounded my car with their trucks and boxed me in. All of this is true and accurate. Do an image search for trumpanzeeees block traffic. I guess these mentally unfit people thought this a good way to spend their weekend. LOL in a sad way.
^Poor baby.
I wish this site would bring back the Up and Down votes for comments. Maybe add a button called “Effing Liar” or another button called “Not football related”
Let’s see. Matt Breida was traded to Miami. Marquise Goodwin was traded to Philly. DJ Reed was poached by the Seahawks.
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Guess what? The Niners lost all 3 games. Maybe KS should realize that they spilled their guts for their new teams, so he should have changed things up more. Those players divulged intel on the playbook, but more importantly, they gave assessments and insights on each Niner player, and gave nuances and tendencies about the KS offense and Saleh defense.
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Next time, JL should factor that in when considering where to trade players to. He should refrain from sending players to future opponents. The Seahawks employ the strategy of obtaining former Niner players, and it seems to be very effective.
Warner is now banged up. After the re-injuries yesterday, I am beginning to think that this season is pretty much done for the Niners.
This league is tough enough under normal circumstances. When all the stars are either on IR or being re-injured when they come back, it’s impossible to win with any consistency. Niners’ physical and speedy run-based offense now has neither speed nor the critical mass of healthy players to dole out and receive the physical beating.
It was always going to be difficult to get back to the SB but now the injuries are starting to take their toll mentally on other players. Juice said so last night. He also said there is still fight in this team but it is becoming clear in their play and body language that the spirit is declining with each guy going down.
I expect nothing less than this team clawing and scratching their way into a wildcard berth. Injuries be damned!
Razor very possible and Im not giving up. No one in the NFC scares me and even if we have to go to Seattle and play them round one, with a healthy lineup, we match up well. BUT, anymore injuries you can tell its taking it toll on the moral of the team.
To me, the leadership was missed yesterday not having Kwon and Sherman.
I am with ya Razor and Prime, I am not giving up, lots of games to go and anything can happen.
Losses are hard to take but when the team plays like crap and coached like crap its really hard to take. I usually try to avoid the blame game, but in this particular game I will state that I think Shanny called a terrible game and this team was in no way prepared to play Sunday and that’s also on Shanny. JG stunk it up too so….
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IIIThere’s only so much Shanahan can do to masks Jimmy G’s inability to pass or make the correct read…
I didnt wanna believe it…
But its a revelation this season…
Shanahan did not want Jimmy at all..
He really was in mourning like Lynch said…two seasons ago..
And running in the playoffs and the short bubble screens the last two weeks confirmed…The int yesterday..i mean come on…last week.
Jimmy hurts the passing game…
so if we have to depend on Jimmy.. its not gonna happen..Which henders play calling…
You say kyle is putting Jimmy in a bad spot…I see it the other way around..
This is deja vu all over again!
We’re still talking about a 49ers qb that is timid..accuracy issues..and making correct reads..and blaming everyone but the “actual passer”…
Its Kyle’s fault..its the o-line…the team around Jimmy….its the gatorade..its the dog barking across the street….
I mean….
It’s everyone’s fault that Jimmy has no accuracy on his passes..
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This is crazy!…
2020…and we still have no answers at Qb…
True, but I think we have a good HC in place – he’s young and still needs to grow in certain areas.
Also, I think Lynch is a good GM. They’ve made mistakes, but they’ve also hit some draft picks. Unlike Baalke, Lynch has a charisma about him that goes over well with players and in wheeling and dealing with other GMs. So, in that sense I think we are in better shape than when Harbaugh left.
Also, an important point is that Jed has learned to stay the hell out of the way. That in and of itself is huge.
Well Deezybee if you think Shanny called a good game so be it. Sh!t stops at the top and Shanny is at the top. The entire team looked flat and that is on Shanny. I love Shanny, I hope he hangs around but sometimes he goes off rails and that has been noted several times. Now if you think that entire debacle was on JG’s shoulders that’s your prerogative. Myself I saw an entire team stinking it up much like the Dolphin game. I certainly have questions about JG mostly about his durability tho.
Yeah Kyle has his issues no doubt…
but i trusts his playcalls..his offensive acumen
Alot of of Kyle’s issues stem from Qb play…
He dont trust Jimmy Undercenter…and u know what? I no longer either…
I totally agree. I saw fight in them, to score those late TDs.
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The NFC is up for grabs, although it does look like the Seahawks have an easier path to the division. If the Niners can regroup, and eliminate the mistakes, they will be competitive. One game that many posters were chalking up as a Cowboy victory, now looks good for the Niners. There is the very good chance that the Niners can defeat the Cowgirls, with the Wonder Duo of McCarthy and Nolan, and absence of Dak.
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BTW, 3 in a row. Nice.
9ers Trade Kwan Alexander to the Saints…
They’ve been shopping him since mid September. No surprise here.
Salary cap downsizing starting off with a bang. They clear $5.4M for this year and over $13M per year for the next two years. Just over $6M in dead money.
Significant savings and Alonso is a UFA next year. We might just cut him or has he been a regular for the Saints?
Hasn’t played a snap for the Saints this year. Probably just a cap clearing move…
David Lombardi makes a point that they didn’t have money for Kevin White’s salary to promote him to 53-man roster last week (he had been promoted twice already earlier). Hence Pettis was activated to return kick-offs. Maybe they thought they could have gotten a 6th rounder for Pettis if he had survived the game?
Thanks Mood. Not sure what Shanny saw in Pettis. Worst draft pick of his tenure.
I think the Reuben Foster pick was worse.
Alexander fought the Law and the Law won!
49ers have begun the Purge.
$23.5M to Kwon for 13 games played. Add that to the price of the Reuben Foster miss.
Kwon is gone
Shocking! Anyone know much about Alonso?
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Veteran coming back from an ACL injury.
Kiko has a 4M cap hit in 2020 and FA in 2021 so basically this whole thing was about getting rid of KA contract. Smart. Now let’s figure out how do deal with Ford.
Rob Lowder @Rob_Lowder 26m
The #49ers also received a conditional 5th-round pick as part of the deal. The trade was primarily about Alexander’s contract, though. The team saves $5.4 million in 2020 and avoids the $15 million cap number in 2021.
Prime,
My description : Old vet, with hit and miss ability. These days, more misses than hits (lol).
Will he even put on a 49er uniform? I can see us cutting him out right. Or will he play special teams?
Prime,
We got rid of a young injury prone player for an old injury prone player – but for much less money.
This is actually good news. Would love to shed that salary. Time to go into rebuild mode- 2020 is a lost cause.
And ship out Tevin Coleman, Jimmy Ward and McKinnon and McGlinchey if we can get any sort of compensation for them. Outright release Dante Impediment- no chance Seattle will want him this time. Show Trent Taylor the door.
Ship out Jimmy after a decent streak of solid games. Shanny ought to be able to make him look good for a few games, then send him to the Pats or Bears for a late 4th or early 5th.
Wow from SB runner up and contender to stripping it right down to the studs! There is a few guys on your list that can go but some we might just want to keep just in case we want to field a team.
We have replacements for Ward and McGlinchy might get us something in terms of compensation from a contender. The guy is a fool and lazy if rumors are to be believed. And might I add a complete waste of a top-10 draft pick.
Need more guys with Debo and Aiyuk’s personalities. McGlinchey is soft AF and his public comments only serve to prove it.
Try and ship out Ford to a contender as well. We might get a late 3rd rounder in return which would be a steal at this point; but I’d take a 4th if nothing else is offered.
Ford might never play football again. I agree on McClinchey. We might be addressing oline in the draft next year as well. I also don’t think they will extend Trent Williams.
I figure someone may be willing to throw a 4th away to get any pash rush in the playoffs, even if the guy is constantly injured. They’d probably sit him until the playoffs and try and get a Conference Championship Game + Super Bowl out of him.
This is a good move long term, but have to think this won’t go over well in the locker room.
Looks like the white flag might be getting raised on 2020.
Packers second round pick RB A.J. Dillon tested positive for COVID-19.
Too many injuries this year. If the 49ers can sneak into the playoffs and get some guys back then they have a chance to make some noise. I’m not hopeful that will happen though. The defense is missing the pass rush and the Center & RG play has been poor. There’s no coming back from that within a season. I’ve tried to give Jimmy G the benefit of the doubt and take into account his ankle issue but I’m really down on the guy. I’m just not sure this guy can ever be a consistent winner in the NFL. Too much evidence of injuries and poor play to think this guy is a consistent top 10 NFL qb.
Kittle out eight weeks with a broken foot. Jimmy out indefinitely with a high-ankle sprain.
2020 just keeps on giving.
In the 49ers case, “taking” seems more appropriate, but I get your gist.
Finish 4-12, pick 5th overall and let the refresh start.
I might be onboard with letting Jimmy G walk if you can tell me there is someone in the 1st round next year in the draft that comes in and takes us to the playoffs. Whoever that is will have a stacked roster and the best team that finished with a lousy record.
At least 6-10. Don’t forget Cowboys and bar codes later on.
Sorry Faithful but if Kittle is out 8 weeks and Jimmy G doesn’t play again, playoffs are not happening.
Mullen’s is not the guy to lead the team to the playoffs. Especially with a beat up roster like we have.
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Kshan blew it – whenever he over thinks the game, we lose.
I knew we lost the game after the second snap – freaking wildcat – why?
Kwon Alexander’s time with the San Francisco 49ers is over. In a bit of a surprising move, the team has traded the linebacker to the New Orleans Saints, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN. The 49ers will receive a conditional fifth-round pick and linebacker Kiko Alonso as part of the trade, per Schefter and Tom Pelissero of NFL Network.
….WTF
Kyle Posey over at NN is pretty much echoing the sentiments of many of us here regarding Jimmy – only more so. He’s also pretty rough on Shanahan.
“There’s a quarterback problem in San Francisco, and it doesn’t appear that the answer is on the roster.”
https://www.ninersnation.com/2020/11/2/21545647/49ers-winners-and-losers-from-an-embarrassing-performance-against-the-seahawks
Is Kyle Shanahan to blame for the 49ers’ woes?
https://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/2509-maybe-its-shanahan-needs/
After the Alex Smith debacle I find the popular story in SF is to place the issue always at the QB positions.
I’m not sure Jimmy G is the future but watch the game over again. The oline was terrible. Like it’s been all year in passing situations.
I find it a very lazy way of journalism when they say SF has a QB problem.
And people on this blog who allegedly live and die by this team have to know the problem with this team doesn’t begin there.
The Niners are built to run the ball, they drafted McGlinchey just for that reason and what do they do yesterday, came out throwing the ball with a QB that has ankle issues and some accuracy issues, makes little sense to me. Maybe JG isnt the QB of the future but it certainly was not all his fault yesterday.
the same McGlinchey who has been BUST all season…….dude looked terrible on sunday…..never in my life have I seen a 49er tackle get bull rushed to the ground…….he needs to gain his weight back…
we over ran the ball yesterday – Seattle weakness was defending the pass – we should have attacked them with passes
Shanahan failed to exploit a terrible secondary that was missing its best two players (S Jamal Adams and CB Shaquill Griffin). Instead of attacking through the air, Shanahan was engorged with his new pet RB project as he decided to feature a largely ineffective JaMycal Hasty. See, Kyle Shanahan loves being the genius. It’s what drives him to make the running game the focal point of his offense. When Shanahan trots out an undrafted player and makes him look like a star, the Shanahan ego takes a trip to the media buffet. Hence, Hasty’s workload: 12 carries for 29 yards against a defense that allows roughly 380 passing yards per game. Shanahan doesn’t want to simply win, he wants to win his way. Yet, his way, without the QB he’ll soon dump, has led to only 5 wins in 26 contests. Maybe Shanahan is the man the 49ers should be calling into question, for these very reasons.
Now Jimmy and Kittle are gone?
Can SF just forfeit the 2020 season and say we’ll get them next year? I’ve never seen a stretch like this and I’ve seen some bad ones. The worst part is they can’t even use this season to judge what they have on the roster because they are relegated to playing mostly backups. And many of starters they have (or soon to be starters) left are relegated for free agency next year
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myrouter.local is the web address which is use to access the linksys smart wi-fi account. search myrouter.local to access linksys account. Myrouter.local is the web address which is use to log in to Linksys smart wi-fi router account from a connected device, then you would like to form use of web address Myrouter.local , linksys smart wi-fi account login will make it possible for you to manage the configurations of a Linksys wireless router. After stepping into the Linksys router setup page, you’ll configure the settings from basic to advanced. You only got to launch an internet browser and into its address bar, as well as you would like to enter http://myrouter.local web address. If you would like to understand the way to log into Linksys router, follow the instructions
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