5 things to know as the 49ers begin preseason

San Francisco 49ers’ Dee Ford at the team’s NFL football training camp in Santa Clara, Calif., Monday, July 29, 2019. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

SANTA CLARA — The 49ers limp into their first preseason game after doing everything they could to stay healthy during training camp.

They didn’t tackle, nor did they scrimmage for more than an hour a day. The practices were relatively light. And yet, six starters on defense went down: Nick Bosa, Dee Ford, Arik Armstead, K’Waun Williams, Jason Verrett and Jimmie Ward.

Now, the 49ers must take extra precautions and make sure no one else gets injured during an exhibition game, just so they can field a competitive team Week 1 of the regular season against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Here are five things to know about the 49ers as they begin their exhibition game schedule with Saturday night’s home game against the Dallas Cowboys.

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  1. 4 things pertain to injuries, and the last focuses on the backup QB competition.
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    No bueno.
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    Wish they could have been talking about the WR competition, or maybe who the starting FS will be. They could have been talking about the O line, but with Richberg out, that is also injury related.

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  2. Generally, agree on all your points. Those are things to consider. I would say that Bosa’s injury is a low-level high ankle sprain so it should not take the same time to heal as a more severe one. Again they are being cautious. I would expect him back by the season opener.

    Oh by the way. I hope all those fans that wanted the Niners to acquire Brown have finally recognized why that was a bad idea from the start. I mean who is he going to blame for his frostbitten feet? Did Ben steal special shoes he was supposed to wear? Some people always seem to have an issue with something or the other. I strongly suspect that ODB’s stay with the Browns will also not be devoid of issues in time.

  3. Bosa and Ford do not need pre-season games. Tendonitis is uncomfortable, but it wouldn’t keep him from playing. The overreaction to Bosa tweaking his hammy wasn’t a surprise, but the delight over his most recent injury instead of gratitude it wasn’t something more serious was.

    Having a Jet in the hangar could be a good thing. I think the chances of this injury ending his career is very low.

    Underneath Jimmy’s rust shines the promise of Niner’s glory.

    1. Ford will have tendinitis the rest of his career?

      This is absolutely false! Tendonitis can become chronic, especially if not treated properly, but it does not always become a chronic problem that lasts throughout a persons life or athletic career. Tendonitis is also very often a manageable affliction. Everyone’s body can react differently to tendinitis, just like so many other potential health problems. It also depends on the cause. Tendonitis can develop as a result of, say a torn tendon, but even that isn’t always the case. And there are also differences between tendinitis depending on the tendon involved as well.

      My brother in law suffered through tendinitis off and on throughout his professional tennis career. He learned very quickly how to manage it, and it eventually went away in his later playing years. Venus Williams has dealt with tendinitis for years, yet her sister hasn’t.

      John Elway suffered from tendonitis as the result of a PBT – Proximal Biceps Tendon rupture he suffered in the shoulder of his throwing arm, and now his biceps looks looks like an apple with a huge bite taken out of it. His Super Bowl victories came after the injury. Joe Montana developed tendinitis in his throwing elbow after he tore the tendon in 91′, at the age of 35, yet even at that age, he was able to manage it and continue to play at a high level as he finished his career with KC.

      That’s not to say that Dee Ford’s will certainly go away at some point. It’s hard to say. In fact, doctors understand what typically causes tendinitis, but not always, nor can they necessarily say for certain why some people develop it, while others doing seemingly the same activity, or suffer from the same injury, simply don’t.

      But it sounds like Dee Ford understands exactly how his knee tendinitis effects his own body, how it reacts in the early portion of the rigors of training camp, and how the inflammation tends to go away after the initial onset.

      And, BTW, Platelets in PRP treatments act to secrete growth factors and proteins that can help to boost tissue regeneration, oversee cell division and promote healing. Many professional athletes are now having outstanding anti-inflammatory results from PRP injections, especially in the knee.

      1. Another worthless long winded post from a Frisco Homer….thanks for playing… Oh by the way, your secret lover Bosa is hurt and on the shelf again, hasn’t even had full contact….what a sissy boy

  4. I always thought that an injury prone person had a penchant for bumping themselves, tripping on something and dropping something on themselves just to name a few.

    When did it become appropo to call someone injury prone when someone else causes the injury? Bosa was injured because someone fell on his leg. Unlike the above scenario, he did not injure himself.
    If and when Bosa is injured it will likely be because he plays with a rabid passion and brings it on every play. I’m ok if a player gets hurt because he is giving 100%.
    Not everyone can be a warrior like Ronnie Lott who played with a partially amputated finger.

    1. Can you suggest another word for injury prone to use to describe Josh Garnett. We can use it for Bosa et al down the road if they continue the path they’re on.

      1. “Can you suggest another word for injury prone to use to describe Josh Garnett.”

        Nope, he’s injury prone. When a player consistently misses games during a stretch of seasons like Garnett has you could use the injury prone label.
        Can you tell me how many games Bosa has missed?

        The anti-Bosa crowd is howling at the moon on this one. Let’s at least be fair in withholding judgment until the season actually starts.

        1. -Didn’t get to finish his Senior season in High School due to a significant injury
          -Only appeared in 27 games in a 3 year College Career
          -Only appeared in 3 games his last year in College due to a significant injury
          -Injured himself twice during the first 12 practices of camp. We’re not talking regular season padded full contact practices either. This was training camp when the players were supposed to be going easy.
          -Is now out for no less than 4 weeks, possibly longer.

          It’s personal bias towards the team that is preventing you from recognizing that this is an injury prone player.

          1. “We’re not talking regular season padded full contact practices either. This was training camp when the players were supposed to be going easy.”

            Let’s use your theory in a different scenario. Stefan Curry had a history of ankle issues in college and had the same issues in his early years as a pro. In one game as a pro he injured his ankle when he inadvertently stepped on a players foot. Did that injury make him injury prone?
            Btw, It’s a good thing that the team and fans never gave up on him.

            I’m sure that we could find players that were injury free dating back to their high school who have suffered injuries in the pros.

            “It’s personal bias towards the team that is preventing you from recognizing that this is an injury prone player.”

            Nah, for me it comes down to withholding judgment on a player until he shows that he can’t stay on the field over a period of time, not in preseason.

          2. Actually, Bosa appeared in 29 straight games through the course of less than 2.5 seasons, not 3. Never missed a college game prior to the core injury. And trust me, that means he is willing to play through minor injuries, unlike some players. Like I said the other day, Frank Gore blew out his knee not once, but twice in college. Nobody thinks injury prone when it comes to Frank. Bosa’s NFL career will be defined by what he does throughout the regular season, not OTA’s, training camp, or the meaningless (not meaningless for players fight for a roster spot, but meaningless for DE selected 2nd overall) preseason.

            Also, if you think his hamstring “tweak” was really a thing, I have a bridge for sale I’d like to show you. It’s never a great idea to be full go before you have even signed your rookie contract, especially coming off of a significant injury. Nobody wants that, including the HC. This is a ploy that head coaches have been playing for decades. Just look at what happened to Deebo, I mean come on bro, gullible much?

            As for the ankle injury, it doesn’t fit the definition of injury prone. The idea that, because it wasn’t regular season “full contact”, therefore he must be fragile, is simply hogwash. He was apparently rolled up on from behind, so it had nothing to do with contact in the usual sense. He may be a freakish athlete, but he’s still subjected to the same laws of physics as the rest of us. Unless he is supposed to have eyes in the back of his head, there’s really no way to avoid it. In fact, that he wasn’t injured more seriously, likely says more about his durability than anything else.

            But go ahead and believe what you want to believe Coffee. Being a Niner fan must really suck for you? Maybe you can go kick rocks and let the rest of us fans enjoy watching the “injury prone” Bosa win DROY during what should be an exciting REGULAR season!

            Go NINERS!

        2. Bosa had an acl in high school, durability of double digit games for two years at Ohio St., then the abdominal injury. His hammy tweak in ota’s was expected after a year off from football, and should not be part of the narrative. His recent ankle injury was just bad luck with a silver lining in that it could have been much worse. If I’m a juror, we have no evidence to support any claim that Bosa is made from “crystal”, is injury “prone” or that he’s a “sissy” boy. They’ve done the same thing with Jimmy Garoppolo, who’s only suffered 2 injuries in his career….

          1. If I’m a juror, we have no evidence to support any claim that Bosa is made from “crystal”, is injury “prone” or that he’s a “sissy” boy.
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            You just illustrated a perfect example of why I would always choose a Bench trial. People confuse their emotions with rational thinking.

            1. ‘Crystal’ was a former nickname for Todd Shell. He was constantly getting injured.
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              I was just reaching back to the Glory Years, to find an applicable term. Sure hope Garnett can heal from his injury, and play all season.
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              Maybe with Richberg out, they should move Person to Center, and let Garnett play RG.

            2. Speaking of gullible, aka CfC, does anyone really think the 49ers brass wants Bosa at risk during the preseason, after the kind of bad luck this team has been having with key injuries?

              Don’t the conflicting reports about the severity of his injury raise even a little bit of suspicion? I mean, John Lynch says it’s not a “full blown” high ankle sprain, but there are “components of one”? I’ve never heard that in my life! I’m guessing that’s double speak for yah, thankfully Nick’s injury is only minor, but we’d rather act like it’s a little more serious to justify holding our prized DE draft pick out throughout the entire preseason.

              Sure, if he’s playing QB, OL, WR, RB, CB or LB, sure, there is some value in the preseason, but DE, after proving to be the most dominant DE in college football?

              Come on CfC, be better bro, use a little critical cognitive thinking process, before your brain turns to absolute mush!

            3. You just illustrated a perfect example of why I would always choose a Bench trial. People confuse their emotions with rational thinking.

              You just illustrated a perfect example of why I would always choose a Jury trial. There’s always that guy whose cold blooded reasoning prevents him from assigning different values to different options, and made his decision making landscape hopelessly flat….

  5. Bosa has lived up to his hype as a pass rusher, the only problem is he has also lived up to his injury prone hype as well. I think Grant said Bosa falls down a lot and thats going to get yourself piled on by several 300 pound linemen. Hopefully this injury streak the niners have will disappear when the regular season begins.

  6. Counting an ankle sprain against Bosa is absurd. That’s a freak accident and it happens. It’s like saying a Bball player who gets ankle sprains is injury prone. Silly. Frankly, it’s safer and better that most of these guys do sit out pre season. Then maybe, they won’t really get hurt.

  7. I don’t know much about platelet-rich plasma therapy (PRP) that Ford had on his knee. But just for some perspective, the Seahawks Bobby Wagner just had a PRP done on his lower leg. Pete Carroll said that Wagner has had the treatment in the past, yet the Seahawks just recently signed the LB to a 3-year $54 million contract.

    “Carroll said having the procedure now could allow Wagner to play in the team’s second preseason game at Minnesota on Aug. 18, and indicated that this isn’t anything to be concerned about.”

    “He’s done it a couple times before, it’s been successful for him, and it’s helped him out over the years,” Carroll said. “He felt like it was time to do it, so we took the time to go.”

    This type of treatment doesn’t seem out of the ordinary.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seahawks-training-camp-day-9-bobby-wagner-out-to-have-procedure-while-ed-dickson-weighs-surgery/

        1. And the 49ers are still trying to recover from that debacle.
          A poor draft can set a team back a few years. An empty draft can set the team back 7-10.
          Baalke’ stench still lingers in the air around all things 49ers.

  8. 11 hours until gametime.
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    Will not see JG, but wonder who will start.
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    I hope they do not have any pre snap penalties.
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    I want to see crisp focused execution, with players lined up properly.
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    The Niners should go bold, and not settle for field goals if in the red zone.
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    I wonder which WR will shine, and hope to see a couple TD passes.
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    With no live tackling in practices, I hope the defense does not miss many tackles.
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    GO NINERS !!!!!!

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  9. Cowboys

    1. This is the classic – I think someone pissed in my half empty glass article.
    2. I hope Jordan Mathews gets some meaningful playing time tonight. He is a good receiver -better than pettis.
    3. Let’s see what Kentavious Street can do with his super human strength.
    4. Will Tavarious Moore get in the game at S?

          1. Baalke would not even offer Gore a contract. Gore wanted to keep playing, he did not want to retire.
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            Gore did not want to play for Baalke. Another team leader Baalke let go.

            1. “Baalke would not even offer Gore a contract.”
              100% Factually incorrect.
              You’re totally making that up. Baalke offered a contract but Gore thought is was too cheap and got better offers from two teams. That’s what happened.
              That’s not what you said as you continue to try to twist history to legitimize your neurotic obsessions.

              1. No, Baalke knew the other teams were offering more, so he did not present a competitive bid.
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                Baalke knew he would leave, and did not try to keep him. Baalke had Carlos Hyde waiting in the wings, and would not offer a 3 year contract.
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                If Baalke did offer something, it was a lowball offer that was insulting, which was the same thing as to not offer a competitive bid.

              2. You said Baalke didn’t offer a contract.
                You’re wrong.
                Now you’re trying to spin what you said, but it’s right there above in the string. You make stuff up all the time. You’re Fake News and Fake Views.

              3. Baalke offered an insult. I do not consider that a legitimate contract. He only offered a one year deal, and Gore knew that he was being supplanted by Hyde.
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                No wonder Gore was so bitter for many years.

              4. Baalke knew that Indy offered a 3 year contract. Baalke refused to offer a 3 year contract.
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                If Baalke was going to be fair and competitive, he would have offered a 3 year deal, even if it was for a lot less. Baalke did not offer a lower 3 year contract, he offered a one year contract with the notion that Gore would lose his starter status.
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                I bet Baalke had not written up a formal proposal, because he knew it would have been rejected out of hand. Baalke did not try to retain Gore, he actively drove him away.

        1. Will this person stop trying to impersonate seb? Or at least get it right. Seb would never, ever post single sentence comments.

  10. I mean, $85 mil for a player with knee tendenitis….I would say great, that is, if their track record was in finding pass rushers, JUST ONE TIME in an NFL Draft. But these guys haven’t.

    At least when Bill Walsh signed a free agent pass rusher, you knew he was healthy—-Gary ‘Big Hands Johnson, Manu Tuiasosopo, etc., when his draft picks like Charles Haley weren’t around.

    Even when Walsh was rehired by the York’s 15 years after retirement as GM for a team spiraling downward, everyone wondered where the pass rush would come from.

    Walsh looked across the Bay and found Andre Carter. He also played for the Patriots 2X, Redskins and Jets, where he currently is their D-Line coach.

    More importantly, the 49ers defense held record-breaking Dolphins QB Dan Marino in check. Marino had set new NFL passing yards and TD passes records that season. The defense held him to 318 passing yards, two INTs, and four sacks, led by Dwaine Board and Gary Johnson.

    Big Hands Johnson Video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOkMhGTCpg

  11. So the gang on here who were clamoring for Antonio Brown…….raise your hands please.
    How much do you love him now? He’s more talented than any WR on the Niners, but how much is he helping the Raiders so far?

  12. Cowboys are looking thin on the D line. I hope the Niners can contain Dorance Armstrong.
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    Taco Charlton has been disappointing, and I hope the Niners continue to stymie him.
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    Joe Jackson is a 5th round pick, but he has been having an impressive TC.
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    I expect Jalen Jelks will get a lot of playing time.

  13. Tendinitis??? CTFO… are you serious with that statement? Inflammation of the tendon is something to worry about?
    I’ve suffered though tennis elbow. It impacts grip strength and the amount I can curl. It was caused by overuse and trying to curl too much. Proper training of all the muscles associated with the elbow corrected the problem.
    I’ve suffered tendinitis in my knee. It impacted the first step after being at rest. I still was able to run a marathon. The knee tendinitis was likely caused by being quad dominant, so running without proper form. Strengthening my glutes and hammies corrected the problem.

  14. Without the tedium of reading the article, Here Are Five Things To Know, Grant style:

    1. Front office blundered in taking Bosa

    2. Front office blundered in taking a punter in the 4th

    3. Front office blundered in signing Ford

    4. Front office blundered in signing Verrett

    5. I’m downgrading my season prediction to 2 wins

      1. 6 letters and one punctuation mark? The real seb would take at least 3 paragraphs, several hundred words.

        But I do have to commend you, whoever you are, in distilling his insipidity to it’s sebessence.

  15. Sounds like Ford is getting a veteran pass. Bosa is getting treated cautiously, as he should. The only one I worry about is McKinnon. Sounds like he’s not ready to go anytime soon. I bet if Coleman and Breida can carry the load, he will be IR with designation to return.

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