Richard Sherman says he’s fully healthy, ready for 49ers training camp

Posted By on July 25, 2018

San Francisco 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman walks on the practice field during NFL football practice at the team’s headquarters in Santa Clara, Calif., Wednesday, June 13, 2018. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)

SANTA CLARA — Richard Sherman is ready to play, sort of.

The 49ers cleared the veteran cornerback for training camp, which begins Thursday, but he isn’t a full-go. He’s a partial-go.

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  4. Bobby Brown says it’s time to play with your balls and take a dump on a hooker Jimmy G style.
    Dirty little monkeys.

  5. I agree with Ledyard’s 2018 player categories:

    Breakout guy: Solomon Thomas

    Comeback kid: Weston Richburg

    Rising Star: Foster/Buckner

    Don’t forget about: Trent Taylor

    Needs to rebound: Joshua Garnett

    Darkhorse MVP: Richard Sherman

    Under the Radar: D.J. Jones

    1. Raz

      Please tell me; Is Solomon Thomas any heavier…?…stronger…? faster…? taller (longer)…? I don’t believe so…… then please tell me what is going to make him “the Breakout guy” ?… He has one year behind him, and the opponents have a years ‘book’ on him….other than the fact that you want to nickname him ‘King’ Solomon where is the breakout…?

      1. OREGONINER says:
        July 26, 2018 at 8:08 am
        Raz

        Please tell me; Is Solomon Thomas any heavier…?…stronger…? faster…? taller (longer)…?

        Answer: What is this? The Six Million Dollar Man? Cue the sound effects; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enPADH5RXlY

        Please tell me what is going to make him “the Breakout guy” ?

        Answer: Because that dude from Oregon, what’s his name? Oh yea, DeForest “The Duck” Buckner said so.

        I think Solomon had a solid year. He came out early out of college and everything, he still had a couple things to learn but I think he had a solid year last year and I think this year is going to be a great year for him to have a break out season.

  8. Breakout candidate hmmm that could make for a great couple blog posts for Grant.
    – breakout candidate offense
    – breakout candidate defense
    – surprise roster move
    – Offensive MVP
    – Defensive MVP
    – stat predictions on offense (Jack and I had an enjoyable argument on McKinnon’s projection)
    – sack leader.

    – breakout player of offense – I think most will go McKinnon here so just to throw someone else out there… Richie James, look for him to take over the slot receiver role in a surprise, beating out Pettis. Backup candidate Kittle… if he can stay healthy he could put up big numbers with the defenses focussed Garcon and Goodwin.
    -Breakout candidate Defense – I’m tempted to say Armstead as I think if played in the middle he would lead the team in sacks and pressures… however I think he will be sabotaged in an effort to protect Thomas. So Warner it is he will take over the MLB role by midseason and won’t look back.
    – Defensive MVP- Foster he will be a devastating force for this D.
    – Offensive MVP – Jimmy of course. But the Runner up will be Garcon… He will have around 100 receptions by seasons end.
    Sack Leader- J. Attouchu – 8
    Mckinnon stats – total yards 1350, 550 recieving.
    More to follow…

    2. Not bad Shoup. I’d be disappointed if McKinnon doesn’t hit 1500. Richie James seems like he’s going to get lost in the numbers game but it’d be cool if he played well enough to force his way on.

    2. Perhaps… But he’s getting paid massive amounts for someone who has been a career backup.

      2. His career isn’t over yet…or do you know something we don’t? I vote for assessing his value at the end of the season.

        1. I’m not condemning the Man just making some predictions and I don’t even have camp reports to help me out. It’s all in fun at this point.

  10. Joe Fann
    ✔
    @Joe_Fann
    All three of the offense’s biggest plays so far are long passes from Jimmy Garoppolo to Marquise Goodwin.

  11. I can never ever root for Richard Sherman. Ever. Never. Ever

    BUT

    If Sherman tips an underthrown fade route in the endzone to Malcolm Smith for the INT and a trip to the Super Bowl I might crack a little bit of a grin. A very slight grin.

      1. I’m with Houston on Sherm … after he exploded in the face
        of that female reporter… and then … eating that
        turkey leg atop the Niners logo… but ..IF
        he can actually help the secondary become scary…
        I ..might crack a smile like Houston …

        Reminds me of T.O. slamming the ball on Dallas’ logo
        (TWICE) …. low class fer sure… and then…
        snubbing the HOF because he wasn’t a
        first ballot inductee …. A real waste of oxygen
        (no matter what his stats are)

    2. Get over it. That was a different place and time and you would’ve loved it had he been on the Niners doing that to somebody else. Bottom line is this is a great player, who exudes confidence and is already making the other DB’s around him better. The only concern I have is how much has he lost due to the injury? If he’s even 90% of what he was, he’s still the best CB we’ve had on this team in years.

      1. If he’s even 90% of what he was, he’s still the best CB we’ve had on this team in years.

        Nice story.

        ;>)

          1. Not according to Hammer. When I said an 85% Sherman was greater than Johnson, he took issue with the author.

            ;>)

      2. I hated Deion. Except for that one year. But before and after, forget it!

        Sherman may have been a jerk, but he’s our jerk now and I’m happy for it.

      3. rocket …
        I understand your POV… but .. for me .. my favorite
        players embrace the mantle of a role-model to kids …
        I don’t consider Sherm’s baby tantrum with that
        lady reporter… (her name escapes me atm) .. and scaring
        the beegeezus outta her …. doesn’t strike me .. as being
        a prime candidate for a role model …

        And the same thing goes for T.O. .. ya know …
        the one who considers himself a role model …
        only for T.O….His attitude of …”It’s all about me .. and
        to hell with everyone else” …. grew old .. back when
        he was a Niner …

        But.. like I said .. “opinions are like belly buttons …
        …everyone has one” ….

        and I respect that

        1. MWN,

          You make a good point about appealing to kids. This guy is just so competitive it gets away from him sometimes. The one thing I have noticed however is that he really embraces the leadership role and makes it his mission to help other guys on the team. That is so valuable to a young team like this. You are correct regarding opinions though and I respect yours as well.

  12. No one hated Dick Charmin more than me, but I sat that bag of bricks down. He’s in the family now, and deserves the full support of the Niner Nation!

  13. This is off topic, but wanted to explore it before we move on to daily comments on Grant’s practice observations. Yesterday some on here had said they would give up a 1st round pick for Khalil Mack but not Julio Jones which I found very interesting. Mack is looking for a contract reportedly worth 20 mill plus a season in line with Von Miller or even more. Aaron Donald is also looking for money in that range. The problem is there is overwhelming evidence that paying defensive players among the highest salaries in the game doesn’t work, in fact 4 of the top 5 paid defensive players played on teams that didn’t make the playoffs. As good as Miller is, the Broncos have been a mediocre team because they haven’t had a QB. Donald has been playing well for years but they didn’t make the playoffs until the QB play improved. Mack has been great but it hasn’t translated to good overall defensive performance.

    I’ve come to believe that the majority of highest paid players have to be on the offensive side of the ball to have success. QB’s are obvious but the skill positions and OL seems to have a bigger effect on winning than the top defensive players have as well. Defense is becoming more and more a volume business to keep players fresh and have a solid rotation, at least on the DL. That seems to diminish the overall value of the individual. That’s not to say you don’t pay anybody on the defensive side, it just means you don’t make them the highest paid at their position because it’s ultimately detrimental to retaining key players on the other side of the ball.

    Interested to see how others feel about this.

    3. Your position is well stated, Rocket, but I’m not sure I fully agree. How does this belief mesh with the adage “defense wins championships”. Maybe that adage is no longer as true as it once was, particularly with better offensive schemes and minds. Still, you can point to defenses in the recent past that dominated their opponents, CAR in 2015, the Seahawks up till last year. Maybe it’s more about not overweighting one side of the ball in talent and dollars as opposed to the other side.

      Also, my position, stated yesterday, is that I feel the offense is ahead of the defense and we need to balance it out with an edge rusher. Adding Julio would have improved the offense, but not as much as adding an elite pass rusher would improve the defense.

      1. Who was the “elite” pass rusher on the Patriots during their last 2 Super Bowl seasons?

        1. And more to rockets point, go take a look at the contracts of the defensive players on both NE and Philly last year. I think there was 1 player with a cap hit of $10 mil or more.

      2. Cubus,

        The defense wins championships saying will always have some validity, but more and more I see the defensive side becoming more of a unit instead of the individual as far as how teams and DC’s are building them. As Jack just said, neither team in the SB last year had a defensive player near the top of the pay scale with the exception of Fletcher Cox for the Eagles. As good as Cox is, that game was a track meet with little defense and the QB’s and skill players were the overwhelming factor. Simply put, in the modern game I don’t think defensive players can have the impact that offensive players can and even less when it comes to wins and losses.

        I think this is a key factor in the ongoing negotiations for Donald and Mack. Both teams can control the players for the next 4 years through the 5th year option and Franchise tag and it will be less – significantly less in fact for the first couple of years – than if they sign them to a big money long term contract. However the other factor that’s even bigger imo, is that they don’t want to spend that much on a defensive player for the reasons I laid out.

        1. The Packers are a team with a high-powered offense whose defense has held them back for a number of years. Only now do they seem to be taking it seriously. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, but better edge rushers on the niners team would help (they don’t have to be elite). When according to Grant, Ronald Blair is your best edge rusher, you’ve got problems.

          1. When according to Grant, Ronald Blair is your best edge rusher, you’ve got problems.

            Or Grant is the one with problems, maybe. Would be extremely surprised if Blair ends up with the most sacks in 2018. Or is even among the top 3 players on the team in that category.

          2. Cubus,

            They had some high paid players on defense in Matthews and Peppers during that time.

            I’m not saying the Niners don’t need better edge rushers and I’m also not saying you don’t spend some money on defense. What I’m saying is you really don’t want to pay any defensive player at the top of the pay scale. You don’t get the value in terms of impact on wins and losses. Pass rushers are arguably the second most important position in the game, but you can’t pay them QB money. It just doesn’t work because the gap in impact between them and a QB is immense.

    5. -QB’s are obvious but the skill positions and OL seems to have a bigger effect on winning than the top defensive players have as well-

      There is no evidence of that whatsoever.

        1. This isn’t a finance business. This is a performance business and to win you need to pay your best players on both sides of the ball. Regardless of defense or offense you pay what the market dictates you pay and if that means Aaron Donald is going to make $20-$25 million a year than that’s what the Rams will have to pay him. If they chose not to and let him walk or trade well that hole will be great and they likely hood of them winning is significantly less.

          1. Go look at the last 4 Super Bowl teams and get back to me with the number of defensive players who were being paid at the top of their position.

          2. Wrong again Chris. It is a Finance business because you are allotted an amount you can spend and have to fit 53 players into it by the start of the season. Why do you think every team has a Cap specialist? If you pay market value for every player you aren’t going to have many top players because they won’t fit under the cap. You have to figure out a way to balance 2nd and 3rd contracts with the quality of young players you have. Case in point is the Rams who added a number of high priced vets in trade with little time left on their contracts to coincide with the fact their QB is still on a rookie deal for two years and Donald has one remaining year on his rookie deal. The minute they pay Donald that kind of money, they have to let other players go which is why they are in no hurry to change his cap number for this season and may not even if they do a long term deal.

            There is also evidence that paying a defensive player at the top of the wage scale doesn’t help you win. Suh didn’t help Miami win a lot of games, Von Miller hasn’t gotten the Broncos to the playoffs the past couple of years, and until they had better QB play the Rams and Donald were a perennial bottom half of the league team. There’s a reason Donald, Mack and Clowney aren’t signed yet. Figure it out.

            1. Denver won a Super Bowl because of their defense and specifically Von Miller. And maybe I do need to remind you of the winning teams that had marquee players on defenses that did win but I think your smarter than that no?

              If you don’t pay market value for top players then you will never win or atttact any top free agents.
              I think if anyone needs to figure it out it’s you rocketo

              1. Smh, you seriously have a problem with comprehension Chris. We aren’t talking about the dominant phase of a team in a given year. We are talking about how cap dollars are spent and what positions give the greatest return in terms of wins and losses at the top of the pay scale. I’m glad you brought up Denver the year they won the SB. Guess which team spent the most in cap space on offense that year?

                Not surprisingly you also completely whiffed on the market value point. You can’t pay everybody market value against the cap. It’s impossible which is why teams negotiate long term deals so they will save money against the cap at some point during the contract.

                You don’t seem to understand how difficult it is to fit these kinds of deals under the cap. Check out the cap space the Rams and Raiders have going forward and tell me how they fit 20+ mill for these guys into it without gutting a huge portion of their respective rosters? The Rams especially would be better off Franchising Donald for the next 3 years after this one because the money Donald is asking for is far beyond the Franchise number. It would be bad business if the gave into what he wants and make the roster far weaker in the process.

              2. You still not grasping the fact that the cap is 177 million? It does not matter what teams spend because that number to get over is almost impossible. Market value and free agency is the only control players have so teams have no choice but to pay whatever that number is.
                Your point on Darnold has zero validity. They don’t sign that type of talent and their not winning a Super Bowl unless all the luck of the Irish falls on them with zero injuries.
                The Raiders will have no choice but to sign Mack as one of the highest paid players on the roster.
                You act like the NFL is running on a shortness of cash. There is no such thing as salary cap purgatory anymore because the number is so high and teams have experts on how to manage it.

              4. Chris:

                Take a look at the following link. Click on some of the teams both at the top and bottom and see why some teams are in salary cap hell and others are faring okay for now. I found looking at the Seahawks salary cap situation very instructive. They’ve lost an incredible amount of talent and are currently in the worst salary cap situation.

                Teams absolutely have to manage the salary cap situation. Fortunately the niners have one of the best in Paraag.

                https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

      2. Chris,

        Yes there is evidence as teams are generally spending more on offense than defense and as I pointed out, the top paid defensive players aren’t helping their teams make the playoffs.

        Why don’t you do some research before responding to things?

  14. Sherman drove me nuts when he was on the Seahawks. Mostly it was his swagger backed up by his play with a bit of annoying behavior thrown in. However, I am happy he is on the Niners. He brings a great deal of knowledge and experience combined with the swagger he has, which the Niners really need. The defense is in a position with Sherman, Buckner and Foster to really cause offenses to have to be concerned at all levels with the play of the defense. It seems like last year teams hardly had to game plan against the defense; except for Buckner there wasn’t anyone who really caused them concern. I think that has changed, and it will be Sherman who helps create the type of hard nosed aggressive play this year that Seattle had for years.
    I am not saying this is the Legend of Boom 2.0, but I do see improvement and the possibility of a big leap in performance by the defense.

  15. Have always liked Sherman’s game. There was talk of him going to the 49ers a year or two ago also if I remember correctly, and even back then I wanted him on the team.

    Yeah, I’d laugh at him if he was burned or whining on the sidelines. I laughed at his taunting of Crabtree after the NFCCG.

    You make the plays you can talk all you want. You don’t like it, beat them so they stay quiet. That’s my philosophy on it.

  16. Jack sez:
    “…I laughed at his taunting of Crabtree after the NFCCG….”

    Always thought Crabtree was a borderline Diva ..
    (no offense to Crab 15 … if you’re out there still)

    btw … is he on somebody’s roster ?… Cuz… I doubt
    he’ll be makin’ the move to Vegas

  17. I think the Seahawks Super Bowl teams were based mostly on defense. That being said I do agree mostly with Rocket, you need to spend some of the real big money on offense. On defense, I would prefer to have 3 real good players getting paid $7,000,000 each a year the one getting $20,000,000 per year. In other words a defense needs to have very good players as compared to one great player. A great QB can make a lot of deference, I don’t think one great pass rusher can make as much of a deference, because he van be double teamed. As great as Lawrence Taylor was, it helped his game a lot to have other excellent players on defense, because the offense had to account for them. As we saw with Joe in 81-83, a great QB can make everyone on offense better. In 81 he was the only real change on offense. On defense the new players who had an impact were Lott, Wright, Williamson, Dean and Reynolds, almost half the starters.

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