49ers sign seven players to the practice squad

The 49ers just announced that they have signed the following seven players to the practice squad:

OT Carter Bykowski
TE Asante Cleveland
WR Lance Lewis
DL Lawrence Okoye
NT Mike Purcell
LB Shayne Skov
LB Chase Thomas

Three spots remain on the Niners’ practice squad. Which players do you think the Niners will sign to fill those three spots?

  1. Nice squad, but where’s the running back? Evidently the physicians are telling the 49ers that Lattimore will be ready in 6 weeks….

  2. I was hoping they could keep RB Glenn Winston. But the Browns claimed him off waivers.

    I’d like to see the team sign BJ Daniels who was cut by Seattle yesterday.

  3. With uncertainty at DE – with the news of domestic violence against Ray McDonald – look for the team to add a D lineman.

              1. Sorry Rocket, but there’s plenty of truth to my statement even if you don’t want to admit it. James has shown us nothing this preseason. He dances too much in the back field, struggles to find holes, and (when he actually does find a hole) runs with no authority. The only good play from him was on a run where you could fit three RBs in the role. He even showed what may be a regression as a returner. This is on top of his ‘great production’ since being drafted, with each year showing signs of regression. The only reason that he’s still with the team is because the position he plays at has been decimated with the injury bug. We have a player in Ellington that can do what he’s supposed to be capable of, only better. James’ ineffectiveness won’t be needed for much longer.
                Like I said, a piece of lint is an upgrade over James. Truth hurts.

              2. I thought James played well the last 2 games. He ran good when he didn’t have a defender in his face behind the line of scrimmage, caught the ball well out of the backfield, and blocked well.

              3. I agree with MidWest that he isn’t good at getting tough yards, or breaking tackles. But then not many scat backs are. As Jack mentioned, its hard to look good when the defender is hitting you just after you’ve been given the ball. Missed blocks were to blame for most of James’ big yard losses, not James.

                James hasn’t done anything to suggest he’ll ever be a good RB yet, but I do think he is better than what some are saying. When he’s given some decent blocks he can turn it upfield in a hurry, and he looked ok in pass pro and as a receiver when he played this preseason. And he has been pretty good as a returner in the past.

              4. I’d be fine if the James fan club said what you just did Scooter (and also if James would prove him self on the field instead of whining about it on Twitter), but they keep bringing up that James had 4.9 YPG on the ground last season when, if they actually delved into that numbers, they’d see how unimpressive they are. He ran for 59 yards on 12 attempts with most of those yards coming against the Texans (who finished with the 22nd best run defense) and the Buccaneers (who finished with the 16th best run defense). Those aren’t pretty numbers at all.
                I can also go along with James not having the blocks needed to spring loose, but he also looked bad as a returner. I gave him a pass against the Chargers because of the bad field, but he looked very complacent against the Texans.

              5. I can understand why people are less than enamoured with a 2nd round pick in his 3rd year that has for the most part been unable to force his way onto the field, even when healthy.

                But he’s got an opportunity to get more carries this year, with the injuries at RB, so hopefully he shows this year why the 49ers drafted him so early in 2012.

              6. The problem with LMJ is that he’s a scat back without enough scat. His lateral quickness is not quick enough in the NFL. He rarely makes guys miss even in space. I loved the guy at Oregon but his game just doesnt translate well to the 9ers offense. I’d like to see what he could do in the Philly offense just because I like the guy. I’m afraid he will never be an impact player for the 9ers.

              7. Mid,

                I’d be fine if the James fan club said what you just did Scooter (and also if James would prove him self on the field instead of whining about it on Twitter), but they keep bringing up that James had 4.9 YPG on the ground last season when, if they actually delved into that numbers, they’d see how unimpressive they are. He ran for 59 yards on 12 attempts with most of those yards coming against the Texans (who finished with the 22nd best run defense) and the Buccaneers (who finished with the 16th best run defense). Those aren’t pretty numbers at all.

                Those were the carries he was given and he put up a very good ypc while doing so. This is akin to Grant pulling out the longest run Gore has in a game and saying without this run Gore only averaged this amount. It’s BS when he does it and it’s no different when you try to do it mid. He can only run when given the carries and he did. The fact you again mention whining on Twitter just reinforces why I don’t give your opinion on this any respect. You are unable to be objective because you were angered by the Twitter nonsense. It has clouded your ability to see him in a positive light on the field which is obvious in the way you are talking about it.

                I can also go along with James not having the blocks needed to spring loose, but he also looked bad as a returner. I gave him a pass against the Chargers because of the bad field, but he looked very complacent against the Texans.

                Complacent? It’s a preseason game Mid. It’s a preseason game that occurred about 10 days after he came off of a dislocated elbow injury to start practicing again. Instead of overreacting to a couple of Punt returns in a meaningless game how about you instead focus on what he did the prior season in meaningful games.

              8. Scooter,

                I can understand why people are less than enamoured with a 2nd round pick in his 3rd year that has for the most part been unable to force his way onto the field, even when healthy.

                But he’s got an opportunity to get more carries this year, with the injuries at RB, so hopefully he shows this year why the 49ers drafted him so early in 2012.

                I understand being disappointed that he hasn’t become a bigger part of the offense. I get that and feel the same way, but what I take offense too is when people change the narrative and start to call the player a bust or compare his value to pocket lint. It’s a myopic view of something that goes far deeper.

                LMJ unfortunately has gotten injured in preseason every year so far much like Crabtree has throughout his time here. The difference is, the team has had quality depth at the RB position and not playing much in the preseason has relegated LMJ to a far lesser role at RB. Harbaugh has said this very thing, but some fans decide to change the narrative and make the player a whipping boy for their frustrations. LMJ has not failed in the chances he’s been given. That is obvious for anyone to see when you look at his ypc which are in line with Hunter’s. He had never returned punts before, yet he worked his ass off and became a top ten Punt returner last season. Instead of looking at how hard the guy has worked to have a role on this team, some fans just focus on the fact he said some things out of frustration on Twitter and use that as a motivation to dump on him while ignoring what is actually transpiring on the field when he gets a chance.

                I’m not a member of any fan club, and I don’t support players simply because they are 49ers. I support players I see value in, who work hard and who can help this team win football games. LMJ can do that imo.

              9. Those were the carries he was given and he put up a very good ypc while doing so. This is akin to Grant pulling out the longest run Gore has in a game and saying without this run Gore only averaged this amount. It’s BS when he does it and it’s no different when you try to do it mid. He can only run when given the carries and he did.

                How wrong you are Rocket. I merely gave the two games in which he accrued the most yards which was only two games and against weak run defenses. His third highest total came against New Orleans to a tune of 7 yards. The rest of the games amounted to little, no, or negative yardage. This is a classic example of stats telling more than what their first look indicates.
                The fact you again mention whining on Twitter just reinforces why I don’t give your opinion on this any respect. You are unable to be objective because you were angered by the Twitter nonsense. It has clouded your ability to see him in a positive light on the field which is obvious in the way you are talking about it.

                You keep using that to prove your point when I have already said that isn’t the main reason I think the team should move on from. Exactly whose opinion doesn’t deserve respect: the one who has said that the main reason that James should be cut loose is because we have a player in Ellington that can do what James does better, or the one who keeps clinging to the same incorrect shtick in order to prove his point? It’s your opinion that obviously isn’t objective and deserves no respect when you grab onto only one thing and run with it while disregarding everything else.

                Complacent? It’s a preseason game Mid. It’s a preseason game that occurred about 10 days after he came off of a dislocated elbow injury to start practicing again. Instead of overreacting to a couple of Punt returns in a meaningless game how about you instead focus on what he did the prior season in meaningful games.

                What exactly does an arm injury have to do with him looking complacent? If anything, you’d think he would want to avoid contact, yet he didn’t. He just caught the ball and did nothing after that.

                Instead of overreacting to a couple of Punt returns in a meaningless game how about you instead focus on what he did the prior season in meaningful games.

                Apparently the team did pay attention to what he has done and drafted a player with similar skills but better execution.

              10. Mid,

                How wrong you are Rocket. I merely gave the two games in which he accrued the most yards which was only two games and against weak run defenses. His third highest total came against New Orleans to a tune of 7 yards. The rest of the games amounted to little, no, or negative yardage. This is a classic example of stats telling more than what their first look indicates.

                Again you can do this with any running back in the league. If he only gets a handful of rushing attempts it’s a waste of time trying to look at each individual run and try to disparage him for it. Yards per carry is based on accumulation. There isn’t a back in this league that doesn’t get stuffed for no yardage at times. The fact is LMJ averaged a high YPC with the few opportunities he was given. No matter how much you try to spin it that is how it is.

                You keep using that to prove your point when I have already said that isn’t the main reason I think the team should move on from. Exactly whose opinion doesn’t deserve respect: the one who has said that the main reason that James should be cut loose is because we have a player in Ellington that can do what James does better, or the one who keeps clinging to the same incorrect shtick in order to prove his point? It’s your opinion that obviously isn’t objective and deserves no respect when you grab onto only one thing and run with it while disregarding everything else.

                There is so many things wrong with paragraph I don’t know where to start. First of all, it is obvious to anyone that reads your thoughts on this subject that you are motivated by the Twitter stuff. You continually mention it and it’s not just with LMJ either. You went on and on over what you thought was bad behavior by Kaepernick last year when everyone else had moved on. You are unable to separate personal feelings from your views on football. It’s not even debatable and a big reason why you argue with so many people on here.

                Secondly, you have proclaimed Ellington to be something he hasn’t shown he can be yet. That is another difference between you and I. I look at what players have accomplished while you form a preconceived opinion and portray it as a fact. Ellington may indeed be better as a returner but it hasn’t happened on the field yet. You disregard a Punt returner who was top ten when games actually mattered and declare a rookie who has returned one punt for positive yardage the better option. Can you not see how hypocritical you are with your views on this?

                What exactly does an arm injury have to do with him looking complacent? If anything, you’d think he would want to avoid contact, yet he didn’t. He just caught the ball and did nothing after that.

                I don’t agree that he was complacent at all which is why I put a question mark behind it. It’s not easy to come in after a month of low activity and no game reps and be in mid season form. That is the point I was making. You want to put so much stock into a preseason game because it fits the narrative you want to portray, meanwhile you completely disregard what he did the previous year when it mattered. That is what is called an agenda Mid, and you clearly have one.

                Apparently the team did pay attention to what he has done and drafted a player with similar skills but better execution.

                Yet another completely fabricated opinion passed off as a fact by you. Ellington was drafted as a WR. If they felt the way you did they wouldn’t have kept LMJ, but that wasn’t the case. The decision makers and numbers don’t share your view Mid, so stop trying to pass of your opinion as anything resembling a fact.

              11. Saying James did something miraculous because he returned ten days after an elbow dislocation is a but far fetched from a medical stand point.
                To make an even comparison, Mark Sanchez dislocated his knee cap and played the Qb position the following week . that impressed me a little more.
                The back is on the team so the discussion about him is merely our opinions and disappointments. He the opportunity he begged for. Now let’s see what he can do with it.

              12. The fact is LMJ averaged a high YPC with the few opportunities he was given. No matter how much you try to spin it that is how it is.

                The fact is that he picked up those numbers against two weak run defenses. I don’t have to spin anything because that alone speaks for itself.

                First of all, it is obvious to anyone that reads your thoughts on this subject that you are motivated by the Twitter stuff.

                Do you seriously enjoy running after your tail?

                You went on and on over what you thought was bad behavior by Kaepernick last year when everyone else had moved on. You are unable to separate personal feelings from your views on football. It’s not even debatable and a big reason why you argue with so many people on here.

                Hello Pot! I’m Mr. Kettle.

                That is another difference between you and I. I look at what players have accomplished while you form a preconceived opinion and portray it as a fact.

                No, you form an opinion based on what you see and expect everyone to respect while refusing to accept that someone can form a different opinion based on the same evidence and disrespecting them in the process. You’re nothing but a hypocrite when you do that. Or a politician.

                You disregard a Punt returner who was top ten when games actually mattered and declare a rookie who has returned one punt for positive yardage the better option. Can you not see how hypocritical you are with your views on this?

                A hypocrite calling me a hypocrite. Shocking, especially when he refuses respect another person’s opinion. And Ellington returned more than one punt during the preseason.

                I don’t agree that he was complacent at all which is why I put a question mark behind it. It’s not easy to come in after a month of low activity and no game reps and be in mid season form. That is the point I was making. You want to put so much stock into a preseason game because it fits the narrative you want to portray, meanwhile you completely disregard what he did the previous year when it mattered. That is what is called an agenda Mid, and you clearly have one.

                You start off by disagreeing with me which is fine, but then start attacking my opinion and even goes as far as to say that I have an agenda. Can’t you offer an argument without attacking and not being a freaking hypocrite in the process?!

                Yet another completely fabricated opinion passed off as a fact by you. Ellington was drafted as a WR. If they felt the way you did they wouldn’t have kept LMJ, but that wasn’t the case.

                And yet they have similar skill sets. Hmmm. And James wasn’t let go becuase the position he plays at took a hit.
                Can I prove that? No, but you can’t prove your assumption either. The only thing you can prove 100% is that Ellington was drafted as a WR, which I agree with.

                The decision makers and numbers don’t share your view Mid, so stop trying to pass of your opinion as anything resembling a fact.

                Yet another thing that you can prove or disprove. And you have the gall to accuse me of ‘fabrication’? Hypocrite.

              13. The back is on the team so the discussion about him is merely our opinions and disappointments. He the opportunity he begged for. Now let’s see what he can do with it.

                I couldn’t have said it better.

              14. …” I look at what players have accomplished while you form a preconceived opinion and portray it as a fact. ”

                What has james achieved?

                I bet more people are more excited about ellington than james…..

                Me personally – I am tired of waiting to see him play big…….

          1. Yea, I wouldn’t go that far, but he’s not a player I thought earned a roster spot. Hope I’m wrong….

            1. But he’s a change of pace back who returns punts.

              You can make the case that Winston is better than James, but what does Winston offer that the Niners don’t already have in Gore, Hyde, and eventually Lattimore? James at least brings something unique to the table; he returns punts and, if used correctly, should be a valuable asset on screen plays.

              1. Mid,

                The style and comparison quote you referenced was Winston compared to Gore and Hyde; not LMJ.

                Matt,

                Rocket you keep throwing up lmj stats but he only carried the ball 12 times in ten games. He broke one of those 12 carries off for 21 yards. For the SEASON he had 12 carries for 59 yards.

                As I said above Matt, he can only run with the chances he gets. That is what he received and he did well. Playing the “take out this run” game is weak and something you can do with every RB in the game to make the argument look different. He averaged a high number with the carries he was given; that’s all there is too it.

                In 23 punt return touches he had 2 (TWO!!!) fumbles! That’s not a great endorsement for a returner fumbling 10% of the time he fields the ball.

                How many fumbles did he lose Matt? I already know the answer and so do you.

                If you’re going to constantly thump us with LMJ running and special teams stats please make sure you tell the whole story. He doesn’t see the field because he is not the best option for this team. You’re enamored with him like many of us were with Winston. No real difference.

                I’ve provided you and others with the actual numbers Matt. The numbers don’t support the view of him being a failure. They actually support the fact he should probably be given more chances, but as I mentioned above his injuries in preseason have kept that from happening. You are the ones who put your own rhetoric on it like he’s not a good option for the team. That is obviously wrong considering he’s still with the team, but if you and others want to continue to spin it that way, it’s a free country.

                There is a big difference between James and Winston. Style wise is obvious, but as I’ve said repeatedly, Winston doesn’t offer any versatility on ST”s which you need to have with your backup RB’s. He also is unproven against elite competition. You keep dumping on LMJ but he had a 5 + yard per carry average in the playoff run to the SB two years ago. He performed on a big stage, and is only remembered by some because of a fumble instead of the whole run he put together.. Winston has looked good against players on practice squads or who are no longer in the league. There is a big difference. I wish nothing but the best for Winston, but he’s one of many RB’s I’ve seen dominate the late stages of preseason games, and most wind up as bit players or out of the league altogether. We’ll see if this winds up being the exception.

                Look here’s the deal from my perspective just so there isn’t any further confusion and accusations that I’m a family member or some other Horse s**t: I don’t see LMJ as a workhorse back who can be a dominant fixture in this offense and never have. I see him as a change of pace back who if given a chance, could bring Sproles like qualities to the offense. If he is given a bigger role and fails, then you and others can come on here and tell me what an idiot I am for thinking he could do more, but until then I’m focused on what this guy can do to help the team and the guys in charge obviously feel there is something more to be unearthed or they wouldn’t have kept him.

              2. He’s on the team, so I’ll back him 100% with no more negativity Rocket. Let’s see what the kid can do this year…..

              3. I’ll back him as well but I will also be critical and approving of what he does or doesn’t do. I don’t change that approach with any player and I see no reason to do so with James.

              4. When LMJ first came on board fans were excited about the prospect of his speed adding a dimension to the 49er offense. Well that never happened. I think LMJ was locked into a catch 22 situation. He was not going to be used in this offense until he was more effective blocking and running between the tackles. To do that he needed to gain strength which he did. But in doing that he lost quickness and speed. Just watch and notice the difference from his first year returning punts. He was much faster.

                One of the silliest statements is that a player is not being used properly. So the Niner’s are supposed to adjust around LMJ? He is not that good. If he were a focal point for an offense like Gore was, perhaps. Players like him have to produce for what a team needs not the other way around.

                The main difference between relative arguments that fans of Winston and those of LMJ present is that unlike LMJ who has had two previous season to show something Winston has of yet had none. How much time is a player supposed to be given before the opportunity should pass to another. Remember that was the same issue that presented itself with AJ. There are still some posters who think the team gave up too early on him, not because he has shown anything tangible but purely because they still cling to the illusion of his potential based on his draft position and their hopes.

            2. He averaged more than 6 yards a carry on Thursday night Razor. He came back from an elbow dislocation far ahead of schedule. He did a great job with his pass blocking. What else was he supposed to do in order to earn a roster spot in your mind? Winston did well in his time against the scrubs, no question, but he doesn’t offer the versatility and ST’s value that LMJ does, and I guarantee there was no talk of him making the team ahead of LMJ for that very reason. Cleveland needs talent and took a flyer on him because they have nothing to lose. A team like the Niners doesn’t keep PS superstars around when they have better players ahead of them.

              Mid’s nose is bent out of shape because he can’t get past LMJ voicing his displeasure over his lack of opportunity on Twitter, but I know you aren’t that petty.

              The reality is, LMJ is averaging 4.7 yards a carry during the regular season and 5.9 in the postseason with the few chances he’s had. He was a top ten kick and punt returner last year and is not a problem off the field. I have no idea why he’s become a punching bag for some on here but it’s completely unwarranted.

              1. Lmj doesn’t have the speed escapability or power to get past initial contact. We have all seen the ol take some hits.
                Lmj doesn’t fit the system SF is employing. I am not saying he can’t be successful, I am saying the way roman has used him thus far has rendered him expendable in the eyes of many fans. I believe that’s the same thing mid is saying.

              2. Matt,

                That’s not what mid is saying and what you just stated isn’t backed up by what I posted above. He’s done just fine in the offense when given carries. The only way he was going to be expendable is if they felt Ellington was ready to take on both K and P return duties, and felt they had a replacement who could play ST’s. Winston was not that guy. He’s no different in style than Hyde and to a lesser extent Gore and was not on ST’s.

                Sometimes fans are like babies with a shiny set of keys.

              3. He averaged more than 6 yards a carry on Thursday night Razor.

                Against backups, and most of his yards came on one run where anybody could’ve run through that hole and gained a good chunk of yards. That doesn’t say anything good about a former second round pick.

                What else was he supposed to do in order to earn a roster spot in your mind?

                Find the holes and hit them with authority. Hitting just the one that opened like the Red Sea is nowhere near enough.

                Winston did well in his time against the scrubs, no question, but he doesn’t offer the versatility and ST’s value that LMJ does, and I guarantee there was no talk of him making the team ahead of LMJ for that very reason.

                I agree, but James doesn’t offer much in terms of versatility.

                A team like the Niners doesn’t keep PS superstars around when they have better players ahead of them.

                That approach has backfired a couple of times though.

                Mid’s nose is bent out of shape because he can’t get past LMJ voicing his displeasure over his lack of opportunity on Twitter, but I know you aren’t that petty.

                Only according to you, and only in order for you to create an argument with zero merit.

                The reality is, LMJ is averaging 4.7 yards a carry during the regular season and 5.9 in the postseason with the few chances he’s had.

                The key word is few simply because he didn’t earn any more chances.

                He was a top ten kick and punt returner last year and is not a problem off the field.

                Which is they they didn’t draft a similar player. Oh wait, they did. And sure he doesn’t cause any trouble off the field; instead he whines about his playing time, which isn’t much better.

                I have no idea why he’s become a punching bag for some on here but it’s completely unwarranted.

                Because he stinks, whines on Twitter, and the biggest reason is that the team now has a player that can easily what James does better.

              4. He’s no different in style than Hyde and to a lesser extent Gore

                Funniest line of the day easily. Gore and Hyde hit with authority while James struggles to just find the hole.

              5. Rocket you keep throwing up lmj stats but he only carried the ball 12 times in ten games. He broke one of those 12 carries off for 21 yards. For the SEASON he had 12 carries for 59 yards.
                In 23 punt return touches he had 2 (TWO!!!) fumbles! That’s not a great endorsement for a returner fumbling 10% of the time he fields the ball.
                If you’re going to constantly thump us with LMJ running and special teams stats please make sure you tell the whole story. He doesn’t see the field because he is not the best option for this team. You’re enamored with him like many of us were with Winston. No real difference.

              6. You’re enamored with him like many of us were with Winston. No real difference.

                You hit the nail on the head Matt.

              7. This belongs down here, not up there.

                Mid,

                The style and comparison quote you referenced was Winston compared to Gore and Hyde; not LMJ.

                Matt,

                Rocket you keep throwing up lmj stats but he only carried the ball 12 times in ten games. He broke one of those 12 carries off for 21 yards. For the SEASON he had 12 carries for 59 yards.

                As I said above Matt, he can only run with the chances he gets. That is what he received and he did well. Playing the “take out this run” game is weak and something you can do with every RB in the game to make the argument look different. He averaged a high number with the carries he was given; that’s all there is too it.

                In 23 punt return touches he had 2 (TWO!!!) fumbles! That’s not a great endorsement for a returner fumbling 10% of the time he fields the ball.

                How many fumbles did he lose Matt? I already know the answer and so do you.

                If you’re going to constantly thump us with LMJ running and special teams stats please make sure you tell the whole story. He doesn’t see the field because he is not the best option for this team. You’re enamored with him like many of us were with Winston. No real difference.

                I’ve provided you and others with the actual numbers Matt. The numbers don’t support the view of him being a failure. They actually support the fact he should probably be given more chances, but as I mentioned above his injuries in preseason have kept that from happening. You are the ones who put your own rhetoric on it like he’s not a good option for the team. That is obviously wrong considering he’s still with the team, but if you and others want to continue to spin it that way, it’s a free country.

                There is a big difference between James and Winston. Style wise is obvious, but as I’ve said repeatedly, Winston doesn’t offer any versatility on ST”s which you need to have with your backup RB’s. He also is unproven against elite competition. You keep dumping on LMJ but he had a 5 + yard per carry average in the playoff run to the SB two years ago. He performed on a big stage, and is only remembered by some because of a fumble instead of the whole run he put together.. Winston has looked good against players on practice squads or who are no longer in the league. There is a big difference. I wish nothing but the best for Winston, but he’s one of many RB’s I’ve seen dominate the late stages of preseason games, and most wind up as bit players or out of the league altogether. We’ll see if this winds up being the exception.

                Look here’s the deal from my perspective just so there isn’t any further confusion and accusations that I’m a family member or some other Horse s**t: I don’t see LMJ as a workhorse back who can be a dominant fixture in this offense and never have. I see him as a change of pace back who if given a chance, could bring Sproles like qualities to the offense. If he is given a bigger role and fails, then you and others can come on here and tell me what an idiot I am for thinking he could do more, but until then I’m focused on what this guy can do to help the team and the guys in charge obviously feel there is something more to be unearthed or they wouldn’t have kept him.

  4. Someone please help me out here: Maiocco says the Niners cannot sign players off of other teams until Monday and yet Cleveland already pounced on two of ours. What am I missing?

    1. Also Cleavland added them to their 53 man roster by claiming them off waivers. No team can add players cut by other teams to their PS until tomorrow.

  5. 6 wrs, 2 of whom are moderately antique, but only 2 nfl qlty rbs,(one of whom is 32) for a run first, “smash mouth”
    (dreadful phase} offense. Need to plan for attrition in a 16 game + play off season. Didn’t we all notice Frank Gore in Seattle, last time out?
    Cheers
    P.S.99

  6. I was surprised a team that runs the ball as much as the 49ers went with just 4 RBs (incl. Miller). Now they have missed out on the RB they most likely wanted to keep on their PS. They’d better hope there are not major injuries at the position, or that Lattimore comes in after week 6 as a capable player.

  7. I’m not sure who the players will be exactly, but based on what is missing from the PS I would assume a RB, a DB, and I’m seeing reports they will go after an OL released by the Packers.

      1. The OL from the Packers is Fullington, apparently.

        I wasn’t a big fan of Quarles in the draft – he benefited big time from playing next to Clowney. Obviously the Giants didn’t think much of him either if they were willing to let him test the waiver wire.

  8. I’m thinking they will sign Faulkner, Alphonso Smith (or Jewel Hmpton) and a player from another squad that’s a good fit…. an ex Stanford player that knows the system.

    Happy to see Okoye, Skov, Chase Thomas and Purcell.

    A shame to lose Morris, Winston and Seymour.

    1. I don’t believe Smith is eligible for the PS. Niners have reportedly agreed with GB undrafted rookie OL John Fullington, but can’t sign him until tomorrow.

  9. Who replaces McDonald on the D line? Assuming he is guilty and will be suspended under Goddell’s new tough love rules.

    1. Alex got paid. 4 years. $17M a season. $45M guaranteed.

      Is it a rolling “guarantee”, making the signing bonus the only real guaranteed money like Colin’s deal? Details to follow I’m sure.

      1. Lol how do you figure onelame? He’s not getting paid from the 49ers. Let KC waist that money. Why would I care? And why do you care?
        He’s not a 49er. But you are a buster and a wanna be fan. That much we all know.
        Keep hatin our curren guy. You know… The one who took smiths job because he’s just better. Have a nice day onelame. Good to know you’re still thinking of me like Alex after all these years. I’m glad I fulfill your life.

    2. Good for him. He’s earned it, and I guarantee he and Charles will both be thinking that after spending a season behind that horrific OL. That is if they can make it through the season.

  10. Rotation of Jerrod-Eddy and Dobbs.
    Dobbs also rotates on other side with Justin and Tank. I think Dial backs up Williams.

  11. CJ Spillman signed by the Cowboys in a desperate attempt to gain some info before next weeks game.

    1. rocket,
      Not sure if you are being sarcastic or serious?
      But I’ve heard this being said of players who have exited the 49ers to play for other teams that closely effect our schedule.

      This has especially been the case between the 49ers and seahawks with players that have played for both teams.
      My only concern is this; Wouldn’t a team be liable for tampering if a player from a former team (arch rival) is passing along schemes from their former employer?

      One player that has been bounced around between both teams is Ricardo Lockett.
      Would he be punished (along w/seahawks) by the league if it was somehow revealed that he passed along inside scheme info he learned while he was on the 49ers?
      I don’t know, just asking.

      1. AES,

        I’m serious about the Cowboys being desperate but I don’t see it helping them much. A player can’t help very much with gameplanning because they don’t offer much more than what teams can see on film. The Niners will change up the things Spillman can tell Dallas such as tendencies and signals. At the end of the day it’s more about execution than how much an opponent knows anyway.

        1. rocket,
          Well if Dallas was desperate to glean intell from Spillman it will be interesting to see what they with him if they get dominated by the 49ers.

  12. I disagree that LMJ is more deserving a roster spot than Winston. He is ok on ST but does not fit the 49ers run scheme. He goes down with the slightest contact. He has had two full offseason and one full season to shine and hasn’t. Winston was brought in super late, is a raw talent from a small school and looked like a stud. He is the one who looks ready to play in the 49ers run scheme. Imagine how much better he will be with more coaching and experience.

    I think it is such a common mistake teams are making and it is a basic error that people make in investing. If they lose money on a stock they hang in there and hang in there hoping it will turn around. So often they should cut their losses admit a mistake and re-invest whatever is left over in a better investment. NFL GMs are too proud to admit they didn’t draft well (2nd round for LMJ), and should just cut bait after realizing it matters zero whether someone was highly drafted or undrafted. LMJ would go down as a failed 2nd round pick, but Winston would potentially be an amazing undrafted gem. Ever heard of Victor Cruz. Guy was undrafted and is a major receiving talent. There is just no telling where your best players are going to come from. Let your eyes determine who should be on the team, not your ego about how good you are at drafting.

      1. How true. We all know that James excels on every LITTLE CHANCE that he gets. This usually happens when Harbaugh or Roman hit their head on something.

        1. That’s not what I said Mid. Read what was written in that post and tell me where any of it is true other than in the belief of the individual who wrote it. Nothing that has happened on the field supports that post.

          1. Yes it is. You keep mentioning that James did good when given the chance, but the thing is that he was given hardly any chances because he didn’t earn it. And when he did play, he only put up good numbers against two weak run defenses and practically nothing against everyone else.

            1. Mid,

              It is you who continues to say and believe he didn’t earn it. That is your opinion. Meanwhile the numbers say he did just fine with the opportunities he had and the more likely reason he didn’t get more chances is because of the fact Gore rarely comes out of a game and the backup didn’t get many chances either. See how easy it is to cut through your BS? You decide a player averaging 4.7 yards a carry didn’t earn anymore, and yet the backup hardly got any carries either. Are you going to go into a diatribe about Hunter too? At least be consistent. Ah wait a minute Hunter didn’t say anything to get your dander up on Twitter. Nevermind.

              1. Meanwhile the numbers say he did just fine with the opportunities he had and the more likely reason he didn’t get more chances is because of the fact Gore rarely comes out of a game and the backup didn’t get many chances either.

                Which is your opinion and even though I can punch holes throughout those numbers, I willing to respect your opinion in regards to them…unlike what you are doing with me.

                You decide a player averaging 4.7 yards a carry didn’t earn anymore, and yet the backup hardly got any carries either.

                Hunter had 78 carries for 358 yards and three TDs with an average of 4.6 YPG coming back from an injury. In other words, he earned his chances. Nice try though.

                At least be consistent. Ah wait a minute Hunter didn’t say anything to get your dander up on Twitter. Nevermind.

                Going back to that yet again? Can’t you actually develop an argument on my main point, or at least make an effort to?

              2. James would not be on this team if his numbers didn’t support it. IMO we did James a disservice bringing him here. We asked him to be something he’s not and failed to utilize the weapons he has.
                If LMJ failed it’s because his OC has truly lacked creativity. When needed and forced into action in big games including the NFC Championship versus Atlanta, he came through.
                Last year I counted numerous times that he was in a pass pattern wide open and NEVER thrown to. Because Roman loves the decoy but never utilizes the decoy. Ask Randy Moss…..
                This year it’s encouraging to see passes dumped off to him in the flat. Hopefully we see more of that. And for those that say he’s slowed down, no he hasn’t. If anything, he’s the victim of a bad line. Hard to produce when you were getting hit at the line or in your own backfield. He’s truly our ONLY change of pace back. Lets see if we get a little more creative with him this year.

              3. That’s understandable AES, but it still doesn’t change the fact that both Hunter and James had the same opportunity for the touches available and Hunter appeared to have earned more of the coaching staff’s trust in order to have more touches.

            2. Mid
              Most on here believe that KHunter is a good backup RB in this league. Yet he only got 78 carries last year. Not a lot of opportunities, especially for a team that runs the ball all the time. Since you keep saying that LMJ only had x carries because he didnt earn them? Do you believe the same thing applies to Hunter?
              Was hunter only given 78 carries because he didnt do enough to earn more?

              1. Just saw ur post Mid. U believe that 78 carries per season is “earning it” for hunter. So with KH getting 5 carries per game and Gore getting another 17 with bobbie getting a short down carry here and there where was LMJ suposed to bust out?

                Could it be that there were not enough carries for everybody last season and because of his early TC injury LMJ never got back in the pecking order?

              2. Yet he only got 78 carries last year. Not a lot of opportunities, especially for a team that runs the ball all the time.

                He was coming off a leg injury. James could’ve easily taken half of those if he had earned the right to do so.

                U believe that 78 carries per season is “earning it” for hunter.

                He has averaged a little over 87 carries a season.

                So with KH getting 5 carries per game and Gore getting another 17 with bobbie getting a short down carry here and there where was LMJ suposed to bust out?

                That’s a cope out. James could’ve easily earned more than Hunter and Dixon.

                Could it be that there were not enough carries for everybody last season and because of his early TC injury LMJ never got back in the pecking order?

                Another cope out. He’s didn’t earn any extra chances period.

              3. Mid
                Its a slow day for me so il give the dead horse another whack.
                The fact that KH averages around 87 carries a season (roughly 5/game) doesn’t it kind of spell out what the 9ers want from their backup RB. A good back like KH only gets 5 touches per game. And everyone on here has said the last 3 years “give Gore some rest, keep him fresh for the playoffs, give his backups more carries” I wonder if its not the system. We will see this year If Hyde gets more than 5 carries a game

              4. Whether it’s the system or not doesn’t change the fact that James could’ve had half of the chances that Humter did if he had earned them.

                We will see this year If Hyde gets more than 5 carries a game

                If he does, it will be because of his play, something that James needs learn.

              5. BOS is exactly right. It is the system. Not having a better plan in terms of carry distribution was lazy on the 49ers part. Period. To have stronger and more explosive backs on the roster and not utilize them is lazy. Or stubborn. Take your pick.

              6. Mid
                Sure for some people it works. Like for instance BLloyd as a 4th WR will have terrible numbers on the 9ers in comparison to whoever plays 4th WR for GB or NO or any other team that throws a ton.
                Another example. RB not catching many balls for the 9ers, doesnt mean our RB cant catch its just not our system.

                If you look at those 2 examples you would see how a system skewes the numbers (or opportunities to get those numbers)

              7. I think that one thing being missed when posting KHunt’ and LMJ’ carries is that we have a potential HOF RB who is still the workhorse of the offense, and that is Mr. Frank Gore.

                Gore was among to league leaders in carries last season which minimizes the work load for any other RB on the team.

                So its not a matter of whether either Hunt or LMJ can produce, its more a matter that with Frank Gore still producing they won’t get many opportunities.

                And yup, even if GWin had made the roster, he would be in the same situation as Hunt and LMJ.

              8. This should go here:

                That’s understandable AES, but it still doesn’t change the fact that both Hunter and James had the same opportunity for the touches available and Hunter appeared to have earned more of the coaching staff’s trust in order to have more touches.

              9. No it doen’t midwest. It means that they gave the lionshare of the carries to a RB that ran how they wanted the ball run, between tackles.

                Hunter was a better runner when running wide, but they made him run tackle to tackle as well. However Hunter had a better long run ratio than Gore because he did occasionally run wide and he’d pop one.

                Give us a vertical threat WR and we won’t utilize him. Give us Sproles, we’d try to make him a Frank Gore type tackle to tackle. We wouldn’t know how to utilize him. Would that mean that sproles sucked? No, it just means that we stick to our system, our methodology and we are inflexible. I call it lack of creativity. IMO, LMJ fits into that category.

              10. It means that they gave the lionshare of the carries to a RB that ran how they wanted the ball run, between tackles.

                And the coaching staff has also show the ability to alter what they do if the player’s style warrants. Plus it goes along with what I said. Someone has to get the touches that Gore leaves available, and so far Hunter has earned the majority of them.

                Give us a vertical threat WR and we won’t utilize him. Give us Sproles, we’d try to make him a Frank Gore type tackle to tackle. We wouldn’t know how to utilize him.

                We’ll soon find out if that is true or not.

    1. Your high! Tank steps in right now and is better.. This could be a blessing is disguise. McDonald is not the same player of a couple years ago.. That’s why he renegotiated his contract..

      1. I agree CK. Macdonald has been a good player beside Smith but the last couple years he has shown his age.
        These two loses have allowed Carradine and Lynch a great opportunity.
        On another note, Alex Smith got paid!

    2. I’m hoping that TJE can hold the edge in Base and that Dial and Tank can help Cowboy generate some interior push in Nickel. Neither TJE nor Dobbs generated much push in games this summer.

    3. Losing McDonald will be a blow, bigger than most on here would like to admit. McDonald doesn’t get the appreciation his level of play deserves simply because he doesn’t put up big stats. The downside of playing 5-tech in a 3-4 is you get under-appreciated by the fans.

      However, the team may be in a better position this year to make up for a loss of McDonald, with Dial looking decent in preseason. If they hadn’t already lost Smith, Bowman and Dorsey it wouldn’t be much of a concern. But with those other guys also gone, that’s a lot of starters from last year out, when you also include Rogers, Brown and Whitner…

      1. Yeah one wonders where the tipping point is for the losses on D. My above scenario is plausible but very much unproven.

        1. Its a concern, that’s for sure.

          The offense has to take some more pressure off the D this year.

    4. Lol…. It’s a loss, but compared to smith? Is this jack or hacked jack?
      Besides pass rush Smith was stopping the run better than McDonald. So one one end you’re losing a run stopper and the other you’re losing the best pass rusher and good run stopper. I think you took a HUGE Grant Cohn leap with this one.

    1. AJ Jenkins made one of the better catches of the preseason this past weekend. A 45 yrd gain finishing with a diving catch along the sidelines.

        1. Brotha,
          What does playing for another team have to do with AJ making a great catch? I wasn’t bemoaning him being a chief.
          I don’t care who he plays for and the fact is that it was a great catch.

      1. Ghost- KC can not cut him without taking a sizable cap hit.

        AES—It’s about the only catch he made though.

  13. A little surprised to see Lache Seastrunk cut from the Redskins. I felt that he was one the top 10 RB’s coming out of college this year.

      1. We can all say what we thought of Alex smith, but the guy never had an off the field issue, never took to twitter and was 100℅ loyal to his team. He should be admired for his qualities and I applaud that someone rewarded him for always going about things the right way.

  14. I just saw that Ben Gardner is on IR with a shoulder injury. I was keeping a couple of fingers crossed he’d be released. Maybe when it’s contract time in a few years we can pick him up.

  15. Trent is the #2 behind Orakpo in Washington. Good place for him to spend the year.

  16. Chiefs signed up for 4 more years of mediocrity today, seems about right for them.

  17. speaking of contracts…
    Alex Smith has four years…
    Jim Harbaw has…..2 years…
    the QB will be pulling down $17 million per year.
    the coach is paid $5 million annually, correct…?

    What sort of offers can Harbaw expect if the Niners
    say sayonara in February 2015…? Perhaps Alex
    will condescend and allow the man to carry his clubs
    at Pebble Beach, hmmm?

      1. Prime, I hope your wrong cause that would be disastrous… That has a feeling of a mike singletary type of move.. Good D line coach but not suited to be a head coach.

              1. Darn that was uncalled for, sorry Razor. I know you don’t care but I still didn’t need to say that and I wish I hadn’t. .

            1. Except Tomsula has actually been the head coach of an NFL game unlike “everyone in this blog” and won that game making him 1-0 or undefeated as a head coach. So how exactly is your comment applicable?

        1. I agree but I think the organization will want to go cheap. Have a master motivator who can hire expensive coordinators.
          I simply don’t think Jed wants to give JH big money and more control.

          I personally think the organization should give JH a raise and a long term deal.

    1. I can’t see Harbs leaving the bay. Hopefully he signs with the 9ers and the Raiders don’t come offering a deal too sweet to pass up. If Tomsula was the coach and brought in a solid proven WCO mind, retained Seeley, and held on to Coach Don-Don as the D-Coordinator I think the 9ers could weather the storm. I’d hate to see Harbaugh leave though.

    1. Why then have they not been able to come to an agreement on an extension? They have had the whole summer to do so? He wants out

      1. Eh. With all this “earn your contract” stuff floating around the 49ers. Like ck’s contract and these others. Maaaybe Mr Harbaugh is saying the same about himself. I win a Super Bowl and I get paid. I don’t.. And we will talk. That’s my take. I don’t think he wants out. I think he would like to get the iltimate goal under his belt before talking money. Who knows, but I just can’t see him being a quitter before the ultimate goal.

  18. Better post it twice without the offending word: We spent a decade in the place where you poop until Jim came along. Some of you toast eaters might want to remember that…

    1. Absolutely. Wasn’t that the knock on harbaugh with the latest coaching pole?
      “He inherited a solid team”
      And yet that “solid team”
      Had a broke down qb that went #1, an O-line that was horrible, a secondary that couldn’t stop a runny nose, and zero know how on how to win, AND win on the road. I’ll say this. Losing harbaugh would set this franchise back a couple of years. Just because you have talent doesn’t mean you will win.
      Atl, (NO the season without their head coach), NYJ, Hou, anyone? None of them with talent all over the team has had the run Harbaugh has his first 3 years. Trust me, I rememeber!

      1. I believe Harbaugh has flaws. The thing is so does every other coach. Would like to see who the front office could replace him with. Bottom line his pluses out weigh his minuses. Nothing wrong with recognizing flaws but if those flaws are brought up as an example for replacing a coach/manager/player they need to be put into context. If Harbaugh does not return it will be to the detriment of the team. There are very few coaches out there who would be better. They would have to get lucky to find one.

  19. Morris > rag Dahl.
    Winston > LMJ stupid moves like these keep happening every year and it takes a toll

  20. I don’t get the knock on LMJ…
    He put up pretty good numbers when he played for us, and is a duel threat to the team. Because a kid comes out in week 4 of the pre season and “runs hard” makes him the better choice?
    Who’s to say this kid has a motor like that all the time? And who is doubting him running with a little extra to get some eyes on him to get signed somewhere? Week 4 is desperation time for those guys on the field.
    Neither one has played 16 games in a season. So why aren’t people trusting these coaches and gm for their decisions?

    1. Because the coaches and GM decided to trade for Gabbert-Martin and rewarded Kaep’s total lack of improvement with a mega-deal. That’s why we don’t completely trust their judgment.

  21. Chargers releasing Marion Grice. he was one of the better pass catching backs in the draft. I’d love to see him on our team.

      1. Ive never seen Grice play in the NFL but he’s still probably better then (about to)Llose My Job.

          1. It was clever it was just poorly executed.

            As long as people don’t think that there is a connection between how well you pick games and how much you know about football and therefore quit the league once your team shats the bed and falls behind then I’ll be more inclined to run it again. The drop off in participation 2/3 of the way through the season was a bummer.

            1. I don’t know CFC. I think there is obviously a direct correlation between picking games and football knowledge. I’d have to say whoever won this thing is smarter than everybody else.

              1. There are a lot of fat bookies in dark back rooms that know a heck of a lot about football then I guess.

              2. I call upon the spirits for mine. I just have to have a priest on hand if I accidentally get Al Davis.

            2. Last year was the best that I have ever done in a Pick Em league, so I’m hoping you do another one in which I can do better. ;-)

    1. Jack,

      I know. I just have an inability to walk away until I’ve exhausted the topic and with all this back and forth with Mid, I think I’ve arrived at that point.

      Good for you Razor. A chance is all any of us can give him and it’s up to him to do something with it.

      1. You reached that when you latched onto only one of the things I said and kept running with it Rocket.
        As I said, I’ll support him because he’s a 49er, but he needs to do some things better in order for my opinion of him to change, mainly earning his keep better than what he has been. Fair?

        1. Mid,

          Take the Twitter nonsense out of the equation and judge him soley on what he does on the field. That’s all I ask.

          1. The Twitter nonsense is only a small part of the equation Rocket. Does it bug me? Yes, but I’m more interested in seeing him earn more chances and proving to be a valuable asset, which I haven’t seen. Stop saying that the only reason I don’t see James as a good player is only because I don’t care for what he said on a social media platform when I have mentioned other reasons for my belief. Respect my opinion.

            1. Mid,

              You keep mentioning it which is why I use it against you. Your opinion is based on trying to find a negative to LMJ’s game like picking out a run you don’t believe counts, or believing that a lack of carries constitutes not earning more when the evidence doesn’t support it. How do I respect that if you are not taking the numbers and his continued spot on the roster into consideration? If you judge this kid purely on what he does on the field and not based on a personal opinion, then you can’t form the conclusion you have.

              I’m done with this. Believe what you want to believe and I’ll do the same.

              1. Your opinion is based on trying to find a negative to LMJ’s game like picking out a run you don’t believe counts, or believing that a lack of carries constitutes not earning more when the evidence doesn’t support it.

                Then why did you keep bringing up the Twitter thing?

                How do I respect that if you are not taking the numbers and his continued spot on the roster into consideration? If you judge this kid purely on what he does on the field and not based on a personal opinion, then you can’t form the conclusion you have.

                I have and formed an opinion on it, which you disagree with and continued to attack.

                Believe what you want to believe and I’ll do the same.

                That was all I asked. The problem is that I’m willing to respect your opinion yet you won’t do the same in regards to mine. Talk about being judgmental.

              2. Mid,

                I would respect your opinion if it was based on factual data on the field. Instead you try to downplay the numbers and portray your opinion as a fact. You mention his Twitter rant everytime you post about the guy, which is why I attribute that to how you form your opinion. He’s done nothing from a performance perspective to warrant the scorn you direct toward him. He’s simply not been given enough chances to show if he can be a bigger part of the offense.

              3. I would respect your opinion if it was based on factual data on the field. Instead you try to downplay the numbers and portray your opinion as a fact.

                The facts say that those numbers shouldn’t be taken at face value. And you play up those numbers and portay your opinion as fact. See what I did there? It can be interpreted different ways which you refuse to accept as being possible.

                You mention his Twitter rant everytime you post about the guy, which is why I attribute that to how you form your opinion.

                You need to pay better attention to our posts because it has been you that keeps bringing up the Twitter thing. I admit that I have, but not as often as you have.

                He’s done nothing from a performance perspective to warrant the scorn you direct toward him. He’s simply not been given enough chances to show if he can be a bigger part of the offense.

                He hasn’t EARNED the chances. There’s a huge difference.

                Like you, I’ve grown tired of this stupid discussion so let’s agree to disagree with the difference being that I am willing to respect your opinion and you refusing to respect mine.

    2. James’ play needs to change my mind Jack. If he can keep quiet about his playing time, earn said playing time, and ABOVE ALL prove to be a capable asset that the team can’t afford to lose, then my opinion will change.

        1. He earned his spot because the two that would’ve beat him out for a roster spot were injured. And having one good run against backups when a hole opened that no one should miss doesn’t equate to doing fine.

  22. The 49ers had shown interest in Idonije once, with his release I wonder if he’s still on their radar or not.

  23. I’ve started a blog Pick’Em league: the TylerWilsonFanClub

    I believe if you go here; http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem/register/joingroup

    and enter id: # 41618
    and password: cohnblog
    you should be able to join. If not let me know.

    Please use your blog screen name so we know who you are. I simply delete teams that I can’t verify with a screen name on here. Please don’t join if you are the type to bail once you are no longer doing well. Good luck!

    Does anyone remember who won last year? Two years ago it was 49ergirl or whatever her name was.

  24. Saw this on Twitter and thought I’d pass it along.

    The Cowboys cut Ahmad Dixon. He’s a rookie safety from Baylor that many liked. Should the 49ers pick him up to develop behind Bethea?

    I know my take, but am wondering what others think.

        1. I’d like to see the team keep Ward at CB where I think his skill set is better suited.
          Dixon is very raw in terms of technique but could be a good SS if developed properly. He could also be a valuable asset on STs. The question though is whether he is worth the time to develop and right now I’d have to say no.

    1. Based on his size and the few write ups I read he seems to be to be best suited as a run stuffing SS you keep up in the box. He doesn’t sound like he’s got much to offer in the pass coverage department.

    2. I say no. I didn’t like him much before the draft, and the fact that he has been released by the Cowboys, who had one of the weakest secondaries in the NFL in 2013, doesn’t engender much confidence.

  25. Wow, the Chron totally destroyed the format of their online paper. Sports page is a very bad joke, except for people with 20/400 vision…

  26. “That’s understandable AES, but it still doesn’t change the fact that both Hunter and James had the same opportunity for the touches available and Hunter appeared to have earned more of the coaching staff’s trust in order to have more touches.”
    ~ MID,

    I don’t refute that point. LMJ became our Return Specialist last season which should be recognized as a vital part of our team. LMJ’ work as a RB was also limited because KHunt had earned the #2 RB spot behind FG.

    Back to LMJ. The one weakness in his game was his blocking. The extra weight he put on in the off season should help him in that area.
    I believe that CHyde will be Gore’ backup, but I also believe that LMJ will have his chances this season being that he is now our only COP RB.
    If GRo sticks to his earlier comment about throwing more passes to the RB’ this season LMJ will may finally have his breakout year.

    1. I truly hope he does AES. I may be critical of him, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t him to succeed, no matter what some (not you) on here believe.

          1. Thanks MID.
            Thought I’d try something new this season. Not sure if I’m sold on it yet, I may try something else before Sunday’s opener.

  27. Any word on when the 49ers will complete their full 10 player PS?

    A player that I would be interested in is RB Lache Seastrunk, recently cut by the Redskins. Evidently, Seastrunk fell victim to the numbers game in Washington, but he was a stud at Baylor.

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