49ers-Seahawks Week 10 film breakdown

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo (10) passes against Seattle Seahawks defensive tackle Quinton Jefferson (99) during the second half of an NFL football game in Santa Clara, Calif., Monday, Nov. 11, 2019. (AP Photo/Tony Avelar)

Check out my YouTube Live film breakdown of the 49ers’ 27-24 loss to the Seattle Seahawks.

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  1. Yes handed the game to Seattle…..JimmyP played horrible….absolutely aweful…..Seattle offense only scored 6 points when not off a turnover…..this game should have been a cakewalk but sorry the QB has to be the leader and deliver…WR play has to be under scrutiny and playcalling as well….this loss is on the Offense…no way to sugar coat it is right

    1. What QB would have done better with that O-Line play, and those receivers who couldn’t catch a cold??

      I’m serious, replace only the QB and tell me how they succeed?

      1. Bingo. The whole debate around Garoppolo right now is nonsense. Around 4-5 of the passes he threw that were bobbled or dropped would have netted a first down and potentially made a difference in the game.

        1. He threw 5 INT’s =4 were dropped= 2 were dropped in overtime….If the Seachickens even catch 2 or 3 of those INT’s the game is over long before it was……Jimmy played crap……face it…he throws a pic in OT he and is the GOAT and not the good GOAT…lucky for him the blame wasn’t directly on him

          Staley and Glinch are hot garbage, WR not very good true that…..but come on= the QB has to lift and inspire the team he did not….he layed an egg…..horrible performance from Jimmy Clooney

          1. As Jack and others have already stated, we have seen Garoppolo like this since the beginning of the season; he has made some good throws, but there are also some throws that make one want to flick a Garoppolo bobble-head doll with the hope that Garoppolo somehow feels it.
            However, such knowledge doesn’t change the reality that most of the passes dropped would have netted a first down and the team was still a botched field goal away from winning the game.

      2. Succeed by throwing to the right receiver (the guy that is open) and not throwing pics that are dropped, not fumbling twice once for a score, throwing a pic, throwing into double coverage (again), staring down receivers…he has to help the team out….one of the highest paid players in the NFL sorry

        1. Can’t name one QB who would have played better with that O-Line and receivers? It seems it is really his pay that bothers you more than anything? If he was playing for a lot less money you could live with his performance?

          The Niners are 8 and 1 and it seems a lot of you “fans” just can’t be happy. If they start losing on a regular basis then I will jump on the haters bandwagon with you.

          1. That o-line was not as bad. If you take away plays where he was pressured and just take the ones where he had the time he still played like crap. One thing that Grant pointed out in his video review is something that I have noticed but many posters seem to ignore. Jimmy G very often throws to a covered receiver when other receivers are wide open. Just watch the video review. Even on that fumble that Seattle scored on, JG had a wide open receiver he looked right at and still he chose not to throw too. Then he compounds the mistake by running loosing goosey with the ball in one hand as he is about to get sacked. Watching the video sort of validated things I had suspicions off. He is a guy who constantly makes bone headed plays that most other QB’s would never make. His now and then good plays are not worth the constant liability that his boneheadedness poses. We would be better off with Mullins.

            1. That o-line was not as bad.

              That is like saying the vandalizing of the Joe Montana statue was a misunderstanding.
              The OL failed to open holes in the run game against an average run defense, and Staley and McGlinchey allowed the Seahawks pass rush to continually get to or pressure Garoppolo. I agree that Garoppolo needed to play better because he had three interceptions that he lucked out on avoiding, but don’t even try to say the OL was not as bad.

            2. I agree Willtalk..with the money saved on Grappo, the team could on the free market get some damn fine receivers= but Mullins throws well to Pettis and Bourne…Mullins said in an interview he throws to the play, or whover is open and lots of throws doesn’t even know the number or player he is throwing to….that is smart QB play there…unlike what we see from Jimmy over and over .. agree

      3. From the top of my head, Wilson, Rodgers, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes, Watson, Brees, Ryan, Cam (as of two years ago). That’s about it I think. I could argue Wentz, Dak and Cousins, but that’s more of a stretch.

          1. Not really. All those I’ve mentioned have been in sitiations as bad as or worse than Jimmy, except Mahomes, who is clearly severely tiers higher in terms of quality than Garoppolo is.

            1. And they usually end up banged up or struggled. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and all of those guys have experienced that, thus making your response a stretch. You also do not help yourself by comparing a guy who has Hill, Watkins, and Kelce as receiving options in his last game to a guy who had Sanders for a very small portion of the game, a second round WR who has yet to round into form, and little else as receiving options in his last game. That’s like comparing a three course meal to a $0.25 package of ramen noodles.

              1. No, I gave them as examples because they’ve repeatedly won games and put up impressive performances despite them being is bad to mediocre situations. Almost never are they a large reason for why the team loses a game. Garoppolo is simply not up there with those calibre of QBs. The good news for him is he doesn’t have to be. People like to say well if the receivers didn’t drop balls or if the O lime didn’t whiff, the Niners win that game. They’re probably right. Additionally, if Garoppolo didn’t fumble and took the open check downs instead, the Niners win that game. All the Niners need from him is to occasionally lead scorong drives, maybe 3-4 a game, and not turn the ball over. He’s turned the ball over waaaaay too much, which is why he’s firmly in the second or third tier of QB in the league. Mahomes can do things Garoppolo can’t dream of doing, or indeed, almost every QB in the league can’t do.

              2. McLaughlin makes the kick and the narrative does a 180* turn.

                Garoppolo is the hero. Wilson is the goat. Razor is still commenting. 49ers are still the best in the NFC. Yada Yada Yada

                “Mahomes can do things Garoppolo can’t dream of doing”

                Mahomes has a hell of a lot more talent around him at the receiver position. Now guess who’s lost more games this year.

              3. People don’t forget the two picks the Seahawks dropped during the drive. Garoppolo was much closer to being the goat than the hero.

              4. Jack, Mahomes doesn’t have close to the defence Jimmy has. If they swapped teams Niners are 9-0 and Chiefs are maybe a five win team. That’s not to say Garoppolo is bad. It’s to say Mahomes saves them big time.

              5. Grant,

                If Bourne catches the ball on 3rd down inside the 10 during the drive after the defensive TD the whole end of the game may have been different.

                The drops were killers all night.

                From what I saw of your breakdown, admit I haven’t watched it all yet, but there are some things that would be fun to go through and debate.

              6. My bad, the Chiefs are actually 5-3 with Mahomes this year.

                “Mahomes saves them big time.”

                He has 3 sub 60% completion games out of 8 starts,

                Garoppolo has 2 in 9 starts, and one was in the slop against Washington.

              7. Jack, you’re full of it. Completion percentage isn’t the all important stat. You can cherry pick certain stats, but Mahomes beats Jimmy in almost every single one. You can’t just say the only important stats are the ones Jimmy is better on. Jimmy gets to game manage, whereas Mahomes needs to make lower percentage plays a lot more because the defence can’t be relied upon, and even then it’s still not enough. Are you really going to tell me you think Jimmy is playing at a higher level than Mahomes? No, put the two side by side and its really not close. We saw the difference between Jimmy and an elite QB on Monday, and it was night and day. This was with Wilson playing the best defence in the league, and not having a perfect game himself. Jimmy doesn’t need to be that good, but let’s not pretend he is even in the same conversation. He hasn’t earned that.

                Edit: Like for instance what more good Mahomes do against a good Titans defence? He also had the team in position to tie the game, and his kicker missed it. You’re not giving him a pass.

              8. Mahomes is a fine QB that makes some truly exciting plays. He also has the benefit of one of the best TE’s in the game and some really top level wide receivers. I feel pretty confident in believing that if Garoppolo had Kelce, Hill, Watkins, and Robinson at his disposal on Monday night the 49ers win going away.

                “We saw the difference between Jimmy and an elite QB on Monday, and it was night and day.”

                LOL! Now that’s funny right there. Wilson was truly masterful leading those 16 and 24 yard touchdown drives, along with the fumble for TD and the pick in OT.

              9. What did Wilson do at the end Jack? He made enough plays to win the game. What did Jimmy do? Incomplete, Incomplete, Incomplete. Are you really trying to tell me Jimmy outperformed Russel? Russel had a MUCH higher degree of difficulty against a Niner defence than Jimmy had against the Seahawks. Yet Russel still managed to look better doing it (71 QBR). You can keep clutching to the missed field goal, but Jimmy played poorer against easier opposition. Russel left Levi’s with a win, and full control of the division, while Jimmy left with an L, and more questions about him than answers. When Jimmy shows half the ability Russel has for keeping his team relevant, then maybe you can compare the two. Good lord.

              10. “What did Wilson do at the end Jack”

                Got his team in FG position. The kicker made it.

                “What did Jimmy do?”

                Got his team in FG position. The kicker missed it.

                “Are you really trying to tell me Jimmy outperformed Russel?”

                Nah. They were both mediocre.

                “Russel had a MUCH higher degree of difficulty against a Niner defence than Jimmy had against the Seahawks.”

                Wilson was throwing to Lockett, Gordon, Metcalf, and had several easy short throws.

                “Yet Russel still managed to look better doing it (71 QBR).”

                Looked better? Because his receivers were catching the ball? How much better did he look on the opening possession of OT when he underthrew Hollister.

                “You can keep clutching to the missed field goal, but Jimmy played poorer against easier opposition.”

                He had 7-9 dropped passes that killed drives or resulted in a pick.

                “Russel left Levi’s with a win, and full control of the division, while Jimmy left with an L, and more questions about him than answers. When Jimmy shows half the ability Russel has for keeping his team relevant, then maybe you can compare the two. Good lord.”

                You do realize that Garoppolo and the 49ers are the ones in full control of the division right? Last I checked they are still in 1st in the NFC West and the NFC as well.

                Good lord is right. One wonky game and you’ve lost the plot.

              11. Renas,

                Wilson had done jacksh*t most of the night and was helped by turnovers to score the TD’s they did. He turned the ball over twice himself including a horrible pick in OT. He didn’t outplay Garoppolo for much of the game and Garoppolo gave his team as many chances to win as Wilson did. I don’t see anybody saying Garoppolo is great or elite, but more often than not he gives this team a chance to win. You have been overreacting to a loss and that’s frustration with no common sense.

              12. I strongly disagree with the notion that Jimmy played comparably to Russ. In my eyes the two were leagues apart. Russ had more poise and an air of confidence about him, Jimmy… not so much.

                Jack:

                Got his team in FG position. The kicker missed it.

                And then made three incompletions when he got another chance.

                Wilson was throwing to Lockett, Gordon, Metcalf, and had several easy short throws.

                Lockett missed the entire end of the game, and for all of his career has been a WR2. Gordon just got cut by the Pats, who are sorely in need of receivers, and Metcalf is a rookie more known for his athletic traits than his catching ability. Let’s not pretend his has an all-star cast here. Russ makes them look good, because he’s a Hall of Fame talent.

                Looked better? Because his receivers were catching the ball?

                Part of that was due to the placement. Some drops on the Niners side were still bad drops, but could have been better placed etc. Russ was throwing them more accurately all ngith long.

                How much better did he look on the opening possession of OT when he underthrew Hollister.

                When you have to rely on one play to debate the entire performance, you know you don’t have much of an argument. How good did Jimmy look when he refused to throw the ball, then fumbled for a TD? How good did he look when he threw a pick by throwing high to a wide open receiver, who while still should have caught the ball, was forced into making a catch much harder than he needed to be. How good did Jimmy look on that last 3rd and 10 when he underthrew Samuel, who was in position for a walk off touchdown? I don’t know what you’re trying to claim here? Both had hit and miss plays, but Russ was superior, and when it really came down to it it showed. If Seattle had lost that game, well they really should have, because they are supposedly the inferior team. But they won, on the road, and as much as we’d like to we can’t say the Niners are better. They’re worse, and will continue to be until they beat them. Jimmy is worse than Russel.

                He had 7-9 dropped passes that killed drives or resulted in a pick.

                QBR factors that in, and he still scored 56 points fewer than Russel. Yes yes, it’s just one stat, but it’s somewhat indicative of what actually happened.

                You do realize that Garoppolo and the 49ers are the ones in full control of the division right? Last I checked they are still in 1st in the NFC West and the NFC as well.

                Apparently you’re not aware of the divisional record. With Seattle playing the Niners again, at home, if they take care of business they win the division. They also have the luxury of having already played the Saints and the Ravens, two of the top 3 or 4 teams in the league. The Niners still have to play both. Seattle doesn’t have an easy schedule, but it’s easier than what the Niners have. If both teams enter week 17 with the same record, Seattle could even tie that one and win the division. The point being, the Niners don’t have full control whatsoever. They’re a half game up.

                Good lord is right. One wonky game and you’ve lost the plot.

                Nice ad hominem Jack.

              13. If McLaughlin makes the kick it’s game over. Nothing more really to say about that.

                Lockett has the 5th most receptions in the league. He’s a stud.

                Not arguing that his placement was good on all throws. Let’s look at a few drops. Garoppolo hits Juice in the hands and is throwing it away from the free safety. On the Bourne pick the ball is a tad high, but that’s a catch any NFL receiver should make. On the Pettis drop along the sideline, it hits him in the numbers. On the second Bourne drop, the ball hits him in the numbers. That was the most critical drop given the point in the game and the 49ers seemingly having the momentum.

                It wasn’t just the pick. There was the fumble returned for the touchdown, and the fact that his 2 TD drives were a total of 40 yards, 16 and 24.

                To think that Seattle is in control you need to assume that they’ll handle their business and the 49ers won’t. I find it difficult to believe that Seattle will go into week 17 at 13-2, and given how Seattle has fared at home this year and this last game played out I’m not counting the 49ers out of winning up there.

                What’s funny here, and I’m not the only one to point this out, is how much your point of view on the team or players swings from one week to the next.

              14. Personally I don’t think there is any argument that this was one of JG’s worst games of the season, even in consideration of the dropped passes. But I will also argue there wasn’t that much of a difference between this performance and his best performance, which came the week before. He isn’t that great a variance player week to week. What he is is a QB that makes some bad decisions pretty much every week, will have a couple of other passes that are a bit off target, but also makes a lot of positive plays.

                The biggest difference this game for JG (aside from WRs dropping balls) was he didn’t do as good a job as usual on critical downs, and probably had one or two more WTF throws than usual. Some of that I think was the pressure he was facing from the Seattle D, some of that I think was not trusting his receivers, and some of that I think was just JG was a little off that game.

              15. Complaining about an ad hominem after choosing to call those who disagree with you idiots and d!€k$ is quite rich as well, bloody tosser. (that better? Lol)

              16. “But I will also argue there wasn’t that much of a difference between this performance and his best performance, which came the week before. He isn’t that great a variance player week to week. What he is is a QB that makes some bad decisions pretty much every week, will have a couple of other passes that are a bit off target, but also makes a lot of positive plays.“

                I think this is pretty much spot on, and has been my take all along. It’s probably been lost in too many responses by me and the twists and turns of threads.

              17. Jimmy G and RW were under a high degree of pressure all night long. Their performances were roughly equivalent, with RW a tad ahead. Both threw an interception, were the reason a fumble was caused that led to a TD and were sacked 5 times. IIRC, Warner missed intercepting a pass from Wilson.

                IMO, the disparity between receiving groups was very large with Seattle having a considerable edge. As Jack has said a number of times, if our kicker makes that kick the narrative is that Jimmy did a “good job” despite the 1) poor WR play, 2) poor offensive line play that lead to a lot of pressures. And over at FieldGulls, RW would be called out by reactionary fans because they lost. However, the reverse happened so that’s what’s happening here.

              18. Lockett has the 5th most receptions in the league. He’s a stud.

                And Wilson is the consensus MVP. But yes, he and Jimmy… oh so close in level. Come on.

                It wasn’t just the pick. There was the fumble returned for the touchdown, and the fact that his 2 TD drives were a total of 40 yards, 16 and 24.

                What did Jimmy do with the turnovers from Seattle? That’s called good complementory football, and it’s why the “points off turnovers” stat is so important. The defence scored a TD on one.

                To think that Seattle is in control you need to assume that they’ll handle their business and the 49ers won’t. I find it difficult to believe that Seattle will go into week 17 at 13-2, and given how Seattle has fared at home this year and this last game played out I’m not counting the 49ers out of winning up there.

                Let’s see –
                Seattle face the Eagles and are coming off a bye. I fancy their chances in that game, as the Eagles have not been consistent enough. 9-2

                Then they face Minnesota. I actually think the Vikings have a chance at this, but I don’t fully trust Cousins on that stage. Still, let’s give them a loss. 9-3.

                They then get a game against the Rams. I think they win that one, though it will be tough. Hell, I’ll give them a loss. 9-4.

                Then they face the Panthers. The Panthers are not a great team. Niners blew the doors off them. 10-4.

                They then face the Cards. They easily beat them last time, though this is a matchup they often struggle with. Still, I don’t see the Cards winning. 11-4.

                And that leads us to the game in Seattle. Hold that thought.

                Niner schedule:

                Niners face the Cards. I don’t think Kittle will play, neither will Sanders, Staley is out, Gould is a maybe but I’m not counting on that either. Still, if the Niners lose this game all bets are off. 9-1.

                They they face the Packers. This is the next big test. Niners should match up well, but I thought the same with Seattle, and I think Rodgers is better than Wilson overall. I don’t love this pick, but let’s say the Niners win it, just. 10-1.

                Then they go to Baltimore. Frankly, I don’t see how the Niners win this game. They haven’t faced an offence quite like it yet, struggle with running QB’s thus far in terms of lane discipline, and Baltimore is a defence that will feast on Jimmy’ turnover-prone antics. I don’t think Baltimore are an unbeatable team, but I do not think the Niners go there and win. 10-2.

                They the go to New Orleans. A lot has been made to discredit them over the Falcons, but that was the Falcons super bowl, and their classic trap game. Generally they are virtually unbeatable in that stadium. 10-3.

                The Niners get the Falcons. I’m somewhat wary of this game, as the Falcons can be unplayable at times, but I think they’ll beready for the Quinn era to end by then. It won’t be a walkover, but I think Niners should win this game comfortably. 11-3.

                Then the Niners face the Rams. By this point, the Rams will be fighting for their playoff lives. Maybe they’ll have figured out something that works, but I don’t really fear that. Still, I consider this game virtually along the same level as the Packers game in terms of difficulty. Won’t be easy, but I’ll give the Niners a win. 12-3.

                That means the 11-4 Seahawks face the 12-3 Niners. Which means the Niners will need to go into Seattle, and beat them, to win the division. That;s the advantage Seattle has now, and why I say they’re in control. They only need to match the Niners results from here on out, to get a direct shot to them and the division title. Now let’s look at respective strength of schedule:

                Seahawks –
                5-4 Eagles
                7-3 Vikings
                5-4 Rams
                5-4 Panthers
                3-6-1 Cards
                8-1 Niners

                Total – 33-22-1, or 58.9% win rate.

                Niners –

                3-6-1 Cards
                8-2 Packers
                7-2 Ravens
                7-2 Saints
                2-7 Falcons
                5-4 Rams
                8-2 Seahawks

                Total – 40-25-1, or 60.6% win rate.

                Comparable, but tougher still.

                What’s funny here, and I’m not the only one to point this out, is how much your point of view on the team or players swings from one week to the next.

                That’s because you don’t seem to understand my point. When I’m critical of Jimmy, I’m not saying he can’t play, or that he should be benched, or that the Niners will lose all these tough games because of him. See, this is your problem Jack. You, and others, actually. You see me say one thing, and then take that to whichever logical conclusion applies, because you’re desperate to put me into one “side” or the other. You want to put me in the delusional homer box, or you want to put me into the irrational hater box, and there is no inbetween. And because you can’t decide on a weekly basis, you still try to use that to discredit me. My advice to you is stop trying to assume my position based on what camp you think I should belong to.

                I’m critical of Jimmy because I do not like his play in this one game, and do not think he should be given a free pass or myriad excuses because you like his jawline, or whatever. You claim I’ve “lost the plot”, but that’s only because you’re desperate to assign emotion to what I’m saying. You do this an awful lot Jack. You assume things that aren’t there, because you’re either putting me into a collection with other posters who say similar things, or you want to tie me to a side to determine how to discredit what I say next. You get this a lot in online discussion. You find sides that subscribe to a set of ideas, and all sing from the same hymn sheet on those ideas. But I’m not a side. I have different opinions on different things. So you’re trying to assign contradiction where there is none, because I believe some things one side belies in, and others the opposing side thinks. And you can’t seem to handle that.

                In this case, I have faith in Jimmy. I think he can figure it out, and I think in time he will be a good QB. I also do not believe he deserves excuses, or free passes, because of the teams win loss record. I believe in the NFL, you cannot leave wins on the field, especially home games, especially divisional home games. The Niners did just that. And that’s cause for concern. I wasn’t impressed by Jimmy on Monday, in fact I would argue he was one of the primary reasons the Niners lost the game. He didn’t do all bad, but he did enough bad to lose the game, and I think he would have been very fortunate if the team did win. In Arizona, he was outstanding, and was the primary reason the team won. That’s the standard I expect of him. I’m not saying he has to throw 4 TD’s every game, but if this team is to challenge for a Super Bowl that needs to be where he’s aiming.

                If my views change week-to-week, it’s because the NFL is a week-to-week league. After Arizona, it looked like Mosely was cooked. But then Witherspoon was still injured, and Mosely played very well in tough circumstances. In my view, he earned another starting shot. In fact, I think after Seattle he has proved more than Witherspoon, so the job should be Mosely’s until Witherspoon can win it back. Witherspoon has been a horrible conerback for a long time, and this year he started well, but has spent most of it injured. He has proven nothing, in what I saw as a prove-it year. There are very few players on the Niners who have earned the benefit of not being judged on their last performance.

                That said, I don’t think I have been overly week-to-week. I don’t believe I pressed the panic button on defence, declaring them exposed after Arizona. Nor have I demanded Mullens start for Jimmy. I called Pettis a bust since last year, and have been fairly consistent in that belief. I said Bourne shouldn’t have made the team in training camp, and nothing I’ve seen has changed that belief. I was disappointed in Alexander, who left plays on the field and then was ejected in his first game. But his play was better, and then he got injured. So I’m not satisfied by that signing, as I believe the team neede dmore than half a season from him, and if you look at what seems to be the play he got injured, it was down to poor tackling form.

                I still think this team is a very good team. But I’m not blind to the schedule. There are three other great teams in the NFC, and the Niners play all of them. I think the defence will keep them in games, but the offence, in particular, Jimmy, needs to prove he can face a top top team, and beat them with high stakes involved. By the way, if the Niners end up 10-6, 9-7, or 8-8, I don’t believe it should mean the end of the Shanahan era, nor the Jimmy era. I would expect the Qb position to be reviewed if that disaster happened (10-6 not so much), but overall I wouldn’t move off of him yet. That said, I haven’t really seen him get better over the course of the year in terms of decision making. That needs to improve quickly. You want to twist that into me saying that Jimmy is a bust who can’t get it done, then go for it. You will anyway.

              19. Scooter –

                I don’t really agree on that. Play to play it may be marginal, but margins is the name of the game. I don’t think he is highly erratic, but the stages were very different. Hoyer actually said it pretty well. In the game against the Rams, where he went off, he was coming into that game having not scored a single offensive TD. Not him, not the team. Worst start ever. Yet the team exploded on a stout Rams defence, and arguably should have won that game. Hoyer explained that sometimes you get a feel that it’s going to be the type of game that it was, and you start drives with that mindset. Against Arizona, despite the late comeback I think the team, and Jimmy, knew it was the game that Jimmy needed to win, so he went into the drives with the mindset of getting the job done. Against Seattle, it was back and forth. The best Qb’s can call upon their greatness when they really need it, time and time again, to get it done. And if they don’t, and they get another shot, they’re doing it then. The last drive with Seattle, there was an air about Russel. You could see he knew it was time to get the job done – they’d gotten the chance to win a game they should have lost or at least tied, and it was time to cash that in. I haven’t seen that with Jimmy. Unlike the 5-game stretch in 2017, he didn’t look as poised when it was time to seal the deal. That will be the difference in the playoffs.

                It’s not that he can’t do it, but he needs to mentally adjust to what’s in play here. Sometimes you need clarity of thought. To me, it looks like he was thinking about too much, and wasn’t able to calm down.

                Jack –

                Complaining about an ad hominem after choosing to call those who disagree with you idiots and d!€k$ is quite rich as well, bloody toss. (that better? Lol)

                I didn’t call everyone who disagreed with me idiots. I called those who apparently were not able to read relatively simple sentences, and once this was pointed out to them, doubled down instead of fact checking themselves, idiots. I also wasn’t complaining about it. I was pointing it out. It’s not a cause for complaint, but it does lose you any moral highground you may otherwise claim to have. And in this case, it was you escalating the discussion. I apologised to Scooter when I did it, and in this discussion, I don’t believe I even called you an idiot, did I? So you attacked my person unprompted here. No, I’m not offended, before you pull that one. Nor am I upset. I just don’t want you, or someone else, to claim I’m toxic or whatever for attacking people unprevoked when you have just done exactly the same to me. Indeed, if I did say something to offend you directly in this exchange, please point it out, as I’ve forgotten it and cannot find it.

                Cubus –

                Jimmy G and RW were under a high degree of pressure all night long. Their performances were roughly equivalent, with RW a tad ahead. Both threw an interception, were the reason a fumble was caused that led to a TD and were sacked 5 times. IIRC, Warner missed intercepting a pass from Wilson.

                Wilson played a much better defence. The defences may have looked similar, because the Niners offence made the Seattle defence look like a top 3 unit for most of the night, but it really isn’t. Niners have better creativity in scheme, better personnel, are more aggressive and make more plays.

                IMO, the disparity between receiving groups was very large with Seattle having a considerable edge.

                I’m not really disputing Seattle has the better receiving group, but that’s only because I don’t think either Pettis or Bourne belong in the league, and I’ve been saying to get rid of Goodwin since early last year (and that’s nothing against the guy himself, whom I’m proud of as a Niner and wish all the best). I’m a fan of Trent, but I think it’s time to move on there too, as he’s been here three years and almost nothing to show for it. Hurd I haven’t seen much, but I’m not convinced. Missing his whole rookie year does not fill me with much confidence, which it’s looking increasingly likely he will. I actually want to say he’s a bust to be honest, as what I did see in camp was… not very impressive, but he’ll have year 2, which people will undoubtedly make excuses for when he looks like an inexperienced rookie. All in all, advantage Seattle, but not by much.

                As Jack has said a number of times, if our kicker makes that kick the narrative is that Jimmy did a “good job”

                That’s not my narrative. If the Niners won, I’d have said Jimmy was lucky for it, but the team would be undefeated, the team would be 7-2, in full control of the division and would have beaten a top team in prime time. I’d be asking Jimmy to improve all the same, but the context of the game would be different insofar as the result would have been good. Now you can say “yes but the kick isn’t his fault” and sure, but it was missed. And if you’re going to point to a missed play, and say “if that was made, then the team would have won” I’d agree, except doing that also means it’s only fair you include other missed plays that would have led to the same result, or similarly impacted the game. If Jimmy didn’t underthrow Samuel, no one cares about the missed kick. If Jimmy didn’t not throw on the fumble returned for a TD, Niners likely win comfortably. If Jimmy didn’t force Bourne of all players to make a jumping catch, knowing he is one of the worst receivers in the league with his hands, that ball isn’t picked off, and maybe the Niners win. If Wagner, or the other Seattle guy whose name I forget, didn’t drop some extremely easy interceptions, we aren’t talking about any kick being missed, because the team never would have had a chance. If you’re going to focus on one missed play that wasn’t done by Jimmy, and use that to deflect from the final result, then you can’t just ignore all the missed plays that Jimmy had, made or affected, that also impacted the final result, just because Jimmy happened to be involved with them. You can blame it all on a rookie kicker if you like, who imo should be off the team the second Gould is cleared because you’re paid to make that kick. The kicker missed one play. He was a rookie, playing for his entire NFL career, and probably won’t get another shot for quite some time if at all. Jimmy is being paid around 30 mill a year on average, gets a lot of passes because of this, and isn’t a rookie, and also missed a lot of plays. Every play counts.

              20. The turnovers created by the 49ers led to starting field position of their own 2, own 44 and own 49. Just a tad different than the oppositions 16 and 24. The one Garoppolo’s unit got to start on Seattle’s side of the 50 they were in position to win the game and the kicker missed it.

                I’ll let the schedule play out. If it comes down to week 17 I like the 49ers chances.

                The box I’m putting you in is this, the team lost so you are being critical of Garoppolo.

                Nevermind the fact that he pretty much does what he did on Monday night, holding the ball, throwing a near pick, throwing inaccurately, making some plays, putting the team in position every week.

                The only differences were that this week the receivers had their worst game of the season, and the volume of throws was increased which increased the number of his mistakes. Through all of that, he led a drive that was on the doorstep of taking the lead if not for a drop. He then led a drive to tie the game. And if the kicker makes it on the next possession, everyone goes home happy and the entire narrative surrounding Garoppolo in this game changes.

              21. Jack –

                The turnovers created by the 49ers led to starting field position of their own 2, own 44 and own 49. Just a tad different than the oppositions 16 and 24. The one Garoppolo’s unit got to start on Seattle’s side of the 50 they were in position to win the game and the kicker missed it.

                Sure, but it doesn’t really change the fact that Seattle did more off of turnovers than the Niners did.

                I’ll let the schedule play out. If it comes down to week 17 I like the 49ers chances.

                I wouldn’t go into that game expecting a loss, but I wouldn’t go in overly hopeful either.

                The box I’m putting you in is this, the team lost so you are being critical of Garoppolo.

                Yes, because that’s what you do. Forget the time I was critical of Garoppolo after the Rams game, a game the team won. Forget how I’ve been critical midgame with poor decisions he’s made, that the team has been winning and eventually won. Nope, you can just go ahead and pretend that the team losing is the sole determinator for me deciding to be critical of Garoppolo this time. You’d be wrong, but you’re free to do that.

                Nevermind the fact that he pretty much does what he did on Monday night, holding the ball, throwing a near pick, throwing inaccurately, making some plays, putting the team in position every week.

                But he’s not throwing inaccurately every week. His accuracy has actually been his best stat QB-ranking wise, if I’m not mistaken. It’s not anything huge to write home about, but it’s better than any other stat he has. Or, it was. I believe his play was significantly worse on Monday than it has been any other week. That’s after factoring in his receivers and the O-line.

                and the entire narrative surrounding Garoppolo in this game changes.

                Your narrative maybe. I wish you’d stop trying to speak for me, and decide my own conclusions. Especially when I’ve shown previously that I’m not just going to give him a pass because the team ultimately won. The team losing of course makes it worse, but that isn’t the sole determinator either.

              22. “but it doesn’t really change the fact that Seattle did more off of turnovers than the Niners did.”

                LMAO! You’re right. There’s absolutely no difference between them!

                He has inaccurate throws every week. He threw 46 times on Monday so sure, it would make sense that he has a few more than usual.

                My narrative has been pretty consistent since week 1. I also don’t mean only your narrative. You’ve written a few times this week about the talking heads and so on.

              23. Renas, as I said, this was probably his worst game of the year, in part because he didn’t deliver in critical moments. So I think we are actually saying the same thing. I just don’t think the difference in this performance was that different from many of his games this year, not even his best game of the year (in which he very much did deliver when it was needed). And part of the reason he didn’t deliver in this game I think can directly be attributed to the play of those around him, part can be directly attributed to him.

                “The best Qb’s can call upon their greatness when they really need it, time and time again, to get it done. And if they don’t, and they get another shot, they’re doing it then. The last drive with Seattle, there was an air about Russel. You could see he knew it was time to get the job done – they’d gotten the chance to win a game they should have lost or at least tied, and it was time to cash that in. I haven’t seen that with Jimmy.”

                Thing is, we have seen it from JG this year. Most notably against the Cards and Steelers. It just didn’t happen this game, and even then… if KB catches the dang ball, or Chase makes the kick… he would have. Having a great D and a pretty good supporting cast around him on offense (usually) helps, but JG has shown an ability to keep the team in games and deliver in big moments to win games. Not just in 2017, but this season too. He just hasn’t needed to often this year.

            2. You and Seb should start your own blog. You both write way too many words and say nothing worth reading.

            3. LMAO! You’re right. There’s absolutely no difference between them!

              Jesus Christ man. I started that sentence with “Sure”. That indicates agreement/acceptance of yoir assertion that the turnovers were not straight up comparable in where they left the other team. You literally went out of your way the “sure”, just so you could mock my reply by indicating I was denying your assertion. What the hell?!

              He has inaccurate throws every week. He threw 46 times on Monday so sure, it would make sense that he has a few more than usual.

              Yeah, but there is a good 15-20% difference. Not like the receivers were entirely sure handed beforehand. I’d argue there were at least 5 more throws off toarget than normal, if you were to scale up the percentages par game to compare appropriately.

              My narrative has been pretty consistent since week 1. I also don’t mean only your narrative. You’ve written a few times this week about the talking heads and so on.

              I don’t know if you’re implying I hold the same narrative as the talking heads, or if you were lumping them all into one, or if you were just speaking generally (dunno why when we were talking specifically about our own opinions, but whatever). In the case of the latter, I disagree. The talking heads decided a while ago that Jimmy was below average, to average, to good, and tend to stick to that unless there is a clear body of work to disprove it. If the Niners won, the narrative would be as it was all season – Jimmy is a game manager. The only key difference is that he wouldn’t have been written off as a liability who will doom the team come post season.

              Edit: I guess I replied to the wrong post. Oh well.

    2. “I’d argue there were at least 5 more throws off toarget than normal,”

      Well, considering that he threw 46 passes on Monday, about 18 more than his per game average coming, in that makes sense.

      1. You’re doing it again. You’re removing words to alter the spirit of what is said.

        if you were to scale up the percentages par game to compare appropriately

        This is the bit you removed. What I meant by this is that if you were to scale completion percentage to directly compare the number of throws he made earlier in the season to last game, you’d find that roughly Jimmy was 5 passes more inaccurate than he normally is. Though my maths may be off somewhat, it should be in that ballpark.

          1. I have often been critical of Grants newspaper articles, But his periscope and his game film analysis are excellent. One could just as well accuse you of being a shill for Jimmy.

            There is a big difference between just giving an opinion and providing game film to back it up. Rather to provide rational reasons for your opinion.

            1. WILLTALK exactly….we get a peek inside the team workings…I am appreciative of that fact….rather than just being a “homer” or a negative nancy we can look at the team objectively

            2. “shill” Wrong. I am a stone cold analyst who wants to win Super Bowls again. Grant is predisposed not to like Jimmy because he preferred Trubisky (let’s roll on the film on him). He scours film to nitpick. He did the same thing with Bosa and even literally “warned ” us about drafting him. That turned out fine. If the niners fix their outside OLine performance and when Kittle and Sanders return, Grant will be writing about “great Jimmy” once again.

              1. Don’t waste your time Rollotomasi. Montyderhak is clueless and has done nothing but complain and criticize the team since he got on here. Guy knows nothing and is simply a supporter of who ever isn’t playing like the backup QB. Worst kind of fan there is.

  2. watching the game on TV you don’t get the chance to see whose open on routes , disturbing to see how many he missed, especially that one to Sanders …. that last deep throw to Samuel on 3rd and ten with the game on the line , had and absolute lack of conviction when he let it go SMH

    1. It also belies the narative that the Niners receivers can not get open. Watching these films only validates things that I myself have noticed. Jimmy often has a bunch of receivers open on the same play and the one he throws to isn’t always the best choice. It is disturbing how open the receivers he doesn’t target are and conversely the bad choices he makes in that respect. I frankly have never seen a QB make so many poor choices in a single game.

  3. Is it better to rest Kittle and Sanders this week with hopes they’ll both be back at near 100% for the Packers next week, or try to play them hobbled this week and risk making their injuries worse?

    Without Kittle or Sanders, JG pretty much has zero reliable targets.

  4. Coffee’s for Closers says:
    September 6, 2019 at 8:57 am
    5 questions entering the 49er’s season:
    1. Will the pass rush be enough to save the secondary?
    Yes. Bosa, Ford and Buckner and up until recently Alexander were all doing a lot to make the secondary’s job much easier.
    2. Will Garappolo clean up the interceptions?
    Not really. In 2017 he averaged an int for every 35.6 attempts. In 2018 it was 1 int for each 29.7 attempts in his abbreviated season and so far this year he’s averaging one pick for every 34 attempts. That seems to be his range. For comparison Brady has averaged 1 int for every 55 attempts. Rodgers is 1 for every 71.
    3. Will the team be able to run behind this offensive line?
    Yes. The team is ranked #2 in yards per game, #11 in yards per attempt and tied for 3rd in rushing TD’s. Despite being shaky on paper coming into the season and then losing both starting tackles this unit has really been impressive.
    4. Has Shanahan figured out how to score in the Red Zone?
    I don’t have enough data to properly answer this yet. For all of 2018 61% of the TD’s scored by the offense came from plays inside the 20 yard line. So far in 2019 that number is 63%.
    5. Can this team stay healthy?
    They’ve had their losses in personnel but until Kittle and then Sanders went out they hadn’t lost anybody that they needed to win. If they don’t get Kittle and Sanders back they could once again be in a bad way due to injuries.

    Follow-up question:
    1. Is the secondary really playing as well as advertised or are they just not being tested enough because of the increase in pressure up front. The team was tied for 17th in pass attempts defended in 2018 and so far in 2019 they’ve faced the fewest number of passes. Maybe one reason the secondary is playing well is because they’re not having to do much.

    On another note I’ve said that I’m always glad to be wrong about this team or it’s players and so far this year I couldn’t be more glad. The squad has exceeded expectations in almost every facet. What a fun year so far. We’ll see if the injuries don’t start to take their toll and how exactly will this team bounce back from this loss. Really looking forward to the Saints game and of course the rematch with Seattle at home.

    1. “Is the secondary really playing as well as advertised ”

      K Williams is playing out of the his mind and Mosely shutdown Metcalf who has a significant size advantage. Having said that, a good pass rush is always welcom.

    1. Yes and this is what is telling….on some of those drops he had guys open either he threw to the wrong guy or made terrible throws…didn’t show the 4 dropped INT’s either

    1. Put him in front of the 49ers DL in a Dallas Cowboys jersey without pads and see how many times he can survive getting pummeled by them.

  5. Just watched the breakdown. In my opinion, that’s the best one you’ve done yet Grant. I think the move to youtube is better, though you should probably utilise keyboard shortcuts and spend some time practicing with the software you use to make the transitions smoother.

    Garoppolo earned every bit of his 15 QBR rating. I gave him a D grade before watching this, I think I’ll stick with that. He played his worst game as a Niner in my view.

    1. Agree Renas…..not a good look from Jimmy at all……makes you wonder…if he puts up more stinkers there may be more drama

  6. Honestly, every team goes through struggles throughout a season. Every player goes through struggles throughout the year. It’s absolutely terrible the 49ers had this game against the Seahawks but it was good this one happened in November. And it’s good Shanahan has a way to light the fire under Jimmy G. I expect the game against the Cards to be tough but winnable even with all the injuries. The time for honoring ourselves is over. It’s time for Jimmy G to step up and say,

    My name is Jimmy Garoppolo, commander of the Armies of Red & Gold, General of the Shanahan Legions and loyal servant to the true 49er Faithful. Leader to an injured offense, Quarterback to a wounded receiving corps. And I will have my vengeance, in this week and all the coming weeks.

    1. You put it better than I could. I have faith, but I need to see Jimmy take over a game and say “no, not tonight”. Maybe it’s too early for that, but until he can do that he doesn’t belong in the list of great QBs. If he, right now, is the guy, he needs to win I would say at least two of the four games vs Seahawks, Packers, Saints and Ravens. I expect a win against the Cards, anything less would be disastrous.

      1. RENAS yes Jimmy needs to step up but he may not have the tools…after watching the film you can say “he’s just a rookie QB” or say why and the flock are you paying this dude over a million a game after watching that crapfest…..everybody has an opinion but that Seahawk game could have been a 5INT game…we all saw it…4 dropped INTs, one called back and 1 that counted….not a good look from that pay scale

  7. Hey Grant — Do you think Jimmy was hunting for great plays in his mano-mano game against an MVP candidate? He started well but when he lost Sanders he was pressing it’s obvious. He didn’t panic but definitely played flustered as the game went on. Is this the first time he had to go against a top caliber QB in his prime?
    He kinda lost the game in my opinion. But also won the game against AZ.

    1. Plenty have said the same. The issue is, the people criticising Jimmy are not looking for reasons to hate on him. It’s a fact that the Seahawks identified Jimmy as the weak link of the team and pressured him to beat them. They didn’t look at him and think “he’s won a lot of games, he must be great”. The faith was that when it came to it, Jimmy would clean up the turnovers and lead the team to victory. He did it against the Cards, and then undid it against the Seash!ts. If he’s the guy we all hope he is, we’ll find out over the next few weeks.

      1. what does bringing up his salary have to do with his football ability. he was payed the market rate with a decent out clause . sometimes a team has to gamble.

            1. So if he was being paid, say $100,000 per game, his play would be OK? Nobody in their right mind picked them to be 8 and 1 at this point and all you and Renas, etal can do is complain.

              1. No I agree with things said and I like Jimmy…Its not complaining= its stating that Jimmy is not the QB some think he is…he is not……the film doesn’t lie= he misses wide open guys then throws up crappo…see it over and over….

              2. Dude, before this game I had basically nothing but good things to say about the team, especially Jimmy. I freaking love this place. I’m effusive with praise and I’m called a homer. The very week after I’m critical of the QB putting in a poor performance against the most hated team I have in sports (next to Real Madrid) and suddenly all I ever do is complain and I’m a hater. KEK, gets me everytime. I was a homer when I predicted 10-6, now I’m an irrational hater for predicting about the same.

            2. i dont understand why it matters . unless your name is york or you are a stockholder its not your money.these guys play a violent dangerous game that could cause terrible health problems down the road and deserve every penny they get. also the yorks can afford 2 million per game no problem

              1. Salary cap. Jimmy being paid that much means the team has less to invest in other positions. If one believes they could get a QB who can match what Jimmy brings for less, it would be worth it as that extra 5 mill or so a year could mean a better receiver or corner or something. In terms of the actual pay, I don’t care how much each player gets paid, but the salary cap means I do care.

              2. Renas,

                Garappolo’s salary cap hit this year is just under $20M. This is not especially high for a QB. The 49ers “problems” don’t stem from the lack of cap space.

              3. exgolfer, that isn’t really my point. I’m explaining that people care about how much a player is being paid for reasons beyond being jealous of how much a guy makes.

            3. “more than qB’s who have won Superbowls”

              The only Super Bowl winning QB’s who are making less and playing are Brady and Brees, and the reason for that is both guys have made their money, are getting up there in age and since they’ve already been broke off they took team friendly deals.

      2. Yes Rena’s…One game Jimmy plays sound football…the next game he can’t find his jockstrap and throws the ball to the other team….weird isn’t it??

        It will play out….we will in time find out= is he worth investing that kind of money or not

      3. RENAS we may before the end of he season see Mullins…Jimmy got hit 10 times againt the seachickens….a twisted shoulder sprained wrist ankle concus etc etc and its next qb up….I think they may win two more games= it may spiral downhill from this point forward…the rest of the League now has a book on how to win out with Frisco……and the teams get tougher….If Jimmy can IMPRESSIVELY win 4 more games then its all good….the next 5 weeks are critical….I called out and said the Seahawks game is where the rubber meets the road and we all saw what transpired=poor QB play….the Offense lost the game and Jimmy is in charge of that

    2. Watching Grant try and “breakdown” film is comical. Watching someone with little experience or knowledge of how to breakdown film alone is a waste of time, but if that’s not bad enough, he also slants all his film selections to his narrative.

      Pair that with the comment section being littered with Monty’s dumb takes makes this whole page a waste.

          1. SLICK what is it you bring to the table except your tired “whining” about others???…thanks for playing poopybutt…If you don’t like Grant go to other blog’s….most every other blog is calling for JimmyCrappo to lose his job and they can’t stand his aragant attitude….try somewhere else perhaps?

      1. Agree with you 100% slick. Cohn really doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing and looks for confirmation of things he wants to rant about. He is really poor in all facets of media. Not comfortable in front of a camera but keeps getting opportunities because of his Father. He’s like Jed only without the money.

        1. I was listening to Grant and his partner a couple of weeks ago doing a game in which the NYGiants were playing. Not sure who said it, but one of them commented that Will Hernendez’ arms were so short that he couldn’t put his hands in his pocket.
          I didn’t know if I was listening to professionals or Beavis and Butthead. Must be a generational thing.

          1. It’s a little known fact that Will Hernandez dresses up as a T-Rex every year for Halloween.

      2. Grant does ok. There are plenty of things that he’s saying or pointing out that can easily be debated or flat out pointed out as wrong. Take it for what it is.

  8. Great film breakdown by Grant. He really showed both sides, the strengths and weaknesses of JG. The good and the bad Jimmy. He gives us perspectives that we just do not have while watching the broadcast.
    .
    I really liked that he called out KS, and showed how Pete Carroll shaped the Niner offense, and the Niners did not make timely adjustments. Now, teams will take this game as a template on how to defeat the Niners, so KS better get a lot smarter, and stop believing his press clippings. After going 3 and out with the Seahawks powerless to stop the clock, no one should ever call KS a genius. He snatched defeat from the jaws of a guaranteed tie. KS should also should have gone for it on 4th and short. If made, it would have given them more control of the clock, and moved the ball closer, so the raw untested rookie kicker would have had an easier try. Guess he did not believe that his team could make a single yard. I wish he had more faith in his team, rather than a stranger off the streets.
    .
    I certainly did not like listening to the narratives of some un-named pundits who said JG acted scared. He was harassed over half the time he dropped back. JG showed his toughness, but was getting bludgeoned. 5 sacks were not JG’s fault. It was a combination of a porous O line and receivers being blanketed. True, he should have pulled the trigger sooner on a couple plays, but he still has not developed sync, timing and trust, especially with 2 of his best targets down.
    .
    Yes, JG does throw into traffic, but I do not want another AS, I want another Joe Montana. Those drops were egregious, and inexcusable, but JG stood tall and did not throw his receivers under the bus. He said he should have thrown a more catchable ball.
    .
    My biggest criticism of JG is his ball security. He should not hold the ball like a loaf of bread. With more experience, and the lessons of this past game, I truly believe he will learn from his mistakes, and not repeat them.
    .
    Even with all the self inflicted wounds, the Niners were poised to win the game, so I hope the Niners do not panic. The Niners are resilient, and now have a good opportunity to bounce back against the Cards. I hope Armstead and Bosa stop leaving their gap assignments, but overall, if the receivers just catch the dang ball, the Niners have a good chance to win.
    .
    KS needs to devise a counter to the 8 in the box. One play I would suggest, is having Goodwin lining up on the right side, then going in motion, so he is at top speed at the snap of the ball. They should sweep left, Juice should lead with a guard pulling, and the receiver on the left side should crash down on the DE to pinch him in. The key is having the receiver chip the DE, so the whole left side is open, and let Juice blow up the corner on that side. Then, once the defense counters that play, have Goodwin stop, spin like a top, and attack the right side, since all of the defense will be flowing in the other direction. This would take advantage of Goodwin’s speed. and he would have less chance of dropping the ball. With the middle all clogged up, it just makes sense to attack the edges.
    .
    One simple way to help KS win the game, would to be for him to consider time outs to be precious, and saved for legitimate challenges and the last 2 minutes of each half. Pete Carroll wisely used his time outs. If KS had had a couple more time outs, maybe they could have marched down the field and scored, which would have won the game in regulation.

  9. The 49ers need to sign Dez . Of course people will say hes a bad fit for the team n such. If Hurd is not coming back then need a big bodied WR like Dez. The WR spot is and will be the reason we dont go to the SB. Yes we have Sanders but still not enough. Heck even signing AB would be ok but has to many issues. N they wont cost much to sign

  10. It’s time Kyle studied what Grant saw on film, and why I recommended TO yesterday.

    When those DB’s got in 49er’s WR’s faces with the Safety playing the deep (and I mean deep) middle is exactly why Bill Walsh had receivers like Rice and later Owens on the team.

    Those 49ers would shove the DB on the ground catch a quick slant and take it too the house with the safety deeply out of position.

    I remember in the Superbowl, Terrel Owens caught a quick slant against the Pats and shoved the initial DB in press coveerage out of the way. Next the Safety tried to put a shot on him on the sideline and TO shoved stiff-armed his facemask for another 10 yards.

    Sign TO, he’s better than Dez, and you wouldn’t have to use him every play if you’re worried about his age. But 3rd downs, red zone, outside zone runs shoving DB’s out of the way for the RB would be huge…..Even on first downs.

    But I never want to see a film like Grant showed ever, ever, again when quality big men are available out their like Dez or TO who would shove the DB to the ground in press coverage, whereas, the pip squeaks we have now can’t even shake Seattle.

    1. Incidentally, there’s a reason Walsh had the 6’4″ Dwight Clark.

      Clark was the big guy who caught the short passes over the middle against the LB’s and Safeties, or in the red zone (“The Catch” vs Dallas). Freddy Solomon was the Deep Receiver who opened things up for Dwight.

      Shanahan can claim all he wants that he doesn’t run a West Coast Offense, but some principles never change in the 4th Qtr against a tough opponent. The pretty offenses get shut down. Those with a DK Metcalf (like Pete Caroll –copying Walsh) know the value of a possession receiver when trying to wind down the clock and our WR’s start getting Crocodile arms.///

      Wise up Kyle, go get Dez or TO to learn your offense with a whole 2nd half of a season left.

      Walsh’s, K O punch with Rice:

      http://www.nfl.com/videos/san-francisco-49ers/0ap3000000909674/Top-10-Super-Bowl-Performances-Joe-Montana-and-Jerry-Rice

  11. Ted at Athletic has some good cut ups on how Clowney disrupted Niners’ run game. Clowney in the joker position probably beat every Niners’ O lineman one at a a time — just overpowered them and there there was no Furious George to help out.
    https://theathletic.com/1377251/2019/11/14/49ers-film-room-how-the-offense-was-stymied-by-jadeveon-clowney-shaquill-griffin-and-seattles-defense/

    Speaking of Furious George, Matt Barrows reported:
    “Unlike last week, there was a Kittle sighting in the 49ers’ locker room. He walked — without a limp — from the training room to his locker and picked up a bag but declined to stop and talk to reporters. “Close, guys,” he said before disappearing down a hallway. Shanahan said Jimmy Garoppolo’s other go-to target, receiver Emmanuel Sanders, also would be a game-time decision. “

    1. Rookie 49er WR’s by the Numbers:

      11-11-19: WR Deebo Samuel (8 catches, 112 yards; 27-24 loss vs. Seahawks)

      12-9-85: WR Jerry Rice (10 catches, 241 yards; 27-20 loss vs. Rams)

      REPLY: Imagine if Shanahan paired Owens on the other side of Deebo to open things up?

      Shanahan needs a receiver like this:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T3ce4HlrSo

  12. By the way Grant, not sure if you’ll see this now, but do you have a list of HTML tags that are compatible with this site in regards to text formating. I obviously see the “bold” and the “italic” buttons, but I dislike using rich text editors as they aren’t transparent in what formatting is used, which means posts can often get messy and clustered. I’ve tested a few, and they don’t seem to do anything, though they do work as they don’t show up in the text (like the “var” tag). I’ll probably ask on another post, but usually I’d expect to see a page detailing the formatting allowed somewhere. I checked the sitemap and couldn’t find anything (all 9 sitemaps generated actually, though I didn’t comprehensively search each one as the reason there were 9 is because there were too many URLs). It doesn’t need to be a whole page, just a list of the supported tags would be nice.

  13. IMO Jimmy G is playing pretty much how he played in the three games last year and all the games this year. I have seen lots of QB’s come and go and what it looks like to me is Jimmy still getting his feet wet. I think he is going to be fine and probably the best one since Young when its all said and done. Most QB’s do not come out of the chute like the Chiefs wonder boy. As far as mechanics go eh good mechanics only apply when there is a clean pocket. When the pocket is dirty you can throw all the mechanics out the window. The biggest problem with Jimmy is experience that will come. Already looking forward to next year, I think he is going to blossom. Right now this is first time in his career that he is able to string several games together. The way I see it 14-3 as a starter for the Niners works for me.

    The only thing I got to say about the WR they should of kept the veteran Mathews.

  14. The Niners should not reward Pettis with playing time. They should deactivate him before the game, and tell him that he has to earn his way back to the field.
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    I hope to see more of Richie James, and maybe utilize the RBs as receivers more.

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