Kyle Shanahan says Dee Ford could miss “a couple weeks” with hamstring injury

San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan speaks at a news conference after an NFL football game between the 49ers and the Arizona Cardinals in Santa Clara, Calif., Sunday, Nov. 17, 2019. (AP Photo/Josie Lepe)

SANTA CLARA — Here is the transcript of Kyle Shanahan’s Monday press conference, courtesy of the 49ers P.R. department.


Opening comments:

“Just recapping some of the injuries, guys, real similar situation compared to last week with [K] Robbie [Gould], [TE George] Kittle, same situation. We’ll see how the week progresses with them. [LB] Azeez [Al-Shaair], hopefully we can get him back out of the protocol on Wednesday. [RB Matt] Breida in the same situation, we’ll see how the week progresses with him. [DL] D.J. Jones, same thing. [WR] Emmanuel [Sanders], hopefully he’ll be a little bit better this week, but he’s in the same boat he started last week. The new injuries from the game: [DL] Dee Ford, hamstring strain, we’ll see how this week goes, not sure yet. [WR] Deebo [Samuel], shoulder. Same issue. [CB] K’Waun [Williams] left with a stinger, but he returned and he should be fine.”


Was Azeez, was he downgraded to out just because it was a short week and you couldn’t get through the entire protocol or did he have some sort of relapse?

“Yeah, no setback, just didn’t pass the physical test, I think, on Saturday. If you don’t do it Saturday, then there’s not an option on Sunday.”


Is there concern with Ford that that can be a multi-week situation?

“Yes. Yeah, anytime you have a hamstring strain, yeah, there is concern it could be a couple weeks.”


Do you guys need to make a move considering the lack of defensive end options you have?

“We might. We’ll see how it is, but I’m not for sure yet.”


George said after the game that he wanted to play. Can you say how close he was to getting consideration to be up?

“Close enough to not rule him out. That’s about it, though.”


When it comes to George, I mean obviously we asked about the MRI and you said there were some issues. What exactly was on the MRI? Was it an MCL issue? Can you guys disclose any of that information?

“No. I don’t want to get into exactly what was wrong with him. I can’t remember what the doctor’s said, but I know it was enough to keep most people out some time, which it has for George. He’s missed two games now and I know it will go down to the wire again this week. I’m holding out hope that this week will be different.”


CB Emmanuel Moseley said he found out the day of on Sunday morning that he would start. What went into the decision of starting Moseley over CB Ahkello Witherspoon?

“Just that Ahkello wasn’t able to get a full week of practice in. We weren’t going to throw Ahkello out there without covering a receiver at full speed in about seven weeks unless he could get three full days of practice in. We walked through about 80-percent of our reps that week. We walked through on Wednesday and Friday and Thursday we had two full-speed practices. Without getting the right amount of practice time in, it really wasn’t much of a decision.”


Without obviously DL Ronald Blair III and possibly Ford for a little bit anyway, what is the plan for that kind of edge rushing spot?

“I mean, one of the guys in our building. We don’t have it yet, we’ll mix it around. We’ve got guys who can play inside, guys who can play outside, but it’s one of the guys that you guys have seen already.”


Any update on WR Jalen Hurd and if you might try to get him on the practice field this week?

“Yeah, that’s not, I don’t know if we’ve 100-percent ended that, but it has not been looking good, so that’s kind of out of sight, out of mind for me right now. We might have more of an answer on that later in this week to just finalize that. I don’t think we have officially yet, but–.”


By finalize you mean IR?

“Yes, ultimately that he won’t return. But yeah, I know it’s been week-to-week here. We’ve been thinking about it and I’m not thinking about it right now.”


With Deebo, obviously you needed someone to step up more without Kittle and Sanders to some extent. How much has it been that and also him just being a rookie and getting more comfortable as far as these last two games?

“Yeah, I think a little bit of everything. Deebo, you know, since the beginning, he had to start Week 1 for us at Tampa and the game has not been too big for Deebo at all. He’s had to learn a lot on the run through each game, just the stamina it takes to play throughout an NFL game, how different those 65 plays are in the NFL compared to usually those 90 in college just down in and down out. Deebo gets better each week, he studies his game plan as hard as anyone in our building and I think he just gets more confidence with the more opportunities he gets. Just the physicality he’s played with has been a lot for us to rely on, especially for a rookie throughout this time.”


You saw that in college. In college you talked about how he looks like a running back once he gets the ball in his hands. Has he improved that part or is this kind of what you saw on tape?

“I think he continues to improve on that. I think he’s had to change his running style a little bit. In college, I think, he tried to reverse the field a lot and you don’t have to worry about pursuit as much in college, so you can make a little bit more plays going laterally before you go vertically. I think he tried to do that a lot in OTAs and stuff because he had been successful with it, but I think he’s started to learn how fast the game is and how fast the other 11 guys are out there. He’s gotten a lot better at not messing around, just getting vertical and getting right up the field.”


You mentioned yesterday against the Cardinals that they were loading the box and making it tough for you guys to run the ball. Seattle did something similar. How do you diagnose the inability to find a rhythm or the effectiveness of the rushing game?

“You know, we didn’t have a lot of great looks yesterday and when we did I thought we just had one guy short. When you don’t have a lot of good looks, when you do have a good opportunity, you better hit a long one. When we had our few opportunities at a long one, they ended up being about a two-yard gain. We just had one guy that didn’t get blocked or we just got tripped up, so when you have that, it can be pretty drastically bad. It was just kind of a situation where I definitely got away from it as a play caller. We started throwing the ball well. They started softening up a lot, which I think got our screen game going a lot. I think that was the first game that we really had to get away from the run or made the decision to get away from the run. It ended up working out for us.”


When you’re evaluating, working with QB Jimmy Garoppolo, looking at the good throws and then looking at the interceptions, how important is it to keep in perspective that, I think, it’s 670 career throws, that’s only about a season or a little bit more?

“I mean, I think that can be good for everybody else. We always think about that, but I mean it doesn’t mean, you don’t give guys excuses or anything. He doesn’t give it to me, either. We try to be hard on everything. You coach everything up, you grade it out, you tell him what he did good, what he did wrong. Jimmy’s very easy and fun to coach in that way. Jimmy’s a guy who doesn’t lie to himself. He keeps it real. He knows when he made a bad decision, he knows when he made a good play and that’s what gives a guy like that a chance to get better.”


Have there been any milestones with quarterbacks that you’ve worked with in the past, maybe a season? I remember Atlanta Falcons QB Matt Ryan saying after working with you for a year, he turned a corner. Is there anything you kind of look at as far as a milestone that way?

“I think definitely for the quarterback, I think all players, but especially for the quarterback. The more you can go through a whole season and go through the ups and downs of that, go through all the different game plans and how you react to things when things don’t work, how you change stuff up. I think when you go through that for a year, it helps a lot going into the second year. A quarterback more than most, but I think it’s the same with our O-Line, our tight ends, everybody.”


With the way the 53-man is right now and the guys who will be coming back who might be injured now, is there any reason to push either CB Jason Verrett or DL Kentavius Street up at some point?

“Yeah, there could be. Those are guys that are working hard to get back and if we definitely had an injury at a certain spot we’d probably make that decision sooner than later. But, they’re guys that regardless even if those injuries don’t happen, they’re guys who we want to get back out there practicing, guys that have worked to get back and we think will be healthy enough to and we’ll see if need be because of injuries, but it not I’d like to at least give them a chance to get back out to the practice field.”


Are you talking Street and Verrett?



How does it look for them?

“They’re getting healthy. I think both of them are going to have an opportunity to do that. It’s not something we’d do right now, but definitely could be an option if we have any injuries at either of those positions.”


Those would be situations where you would see them practice for up to three weeks?



And then you’d have to make a decision after that, but at least give your guys a chance to see them and if they could contribute?

“Yeah, once you activate them to go practice, you’ve only got three weeks. Just me thinking of it right now, the latest would probably be the 13th week or whether we call it the 14th week, whenever the last three games are would probably be the latest. If we lost someone at their specific spot it’d probably speed that process up.”


What is your overall assessment of the way Jimmy played yesterday?

“It would have been real tough to win that game without him. He was in some touch situations. We had a bunch of receivers going in and out of that game. Everyone knows we had to go do it without George. To not get much out of the run game too, he had to really carry us, especially in that second half, made a bunch of big plays. Definitely had two plays that were not good plays, especially there at the end when we’re going in. Both of them were in the red zone, both were on third down where you’ve got three-points you would think and we ended up turning it over. They were two ones that were real tough to swallow, but the defense went three-and-out right after it and to get the ball back to Jimmy and for him to take us all the way down like that, it was huge to see him play as well as he did, have a little bit of adversity and make it up.”


C/G Weston Richburg was very prominent on that WR Richie James Jr. catch and run. Weston was out ahead of that play, I think he was like 40 yards downfield or something like that. This raises the question, how has he been doing this year? It seems like he’s significantly better than he was a year ago?

“Yeah, Weston’s been having a hell of a year. I think he’s been doing real good in the run and pass game. It’s been nice to have him out there throughout this whole thing. I know he battled a lot throughout last year. I don’t know how many games he missed, I know at least one, but he played all last year pretty banged up, toughed it out for us. Went through some hard rehab, a hard surgery, didn’t get cleared until Week 1. He started out playing pretty good right away, but has gotten better week in and week out and has been exactly what we hoped for.”


Was there a certain aspect of it that was more difficult with that injury, playing with that injury last year?

“Yeah, I think anytime you have a rip in your quad and stuff and it leads into some of your knee issues, especially being the center and how low they play all game and having to block on some of these three, four nose guards and reach guys left and right. It definitely wears on you and makes it harder to practice and harder to get through games.”


What can you learn about your team that you don’t already know in the three-game stretch where you are going to go against teams that are all competing for first round Byes?

“Week in and week out you always find out stuff about your team. You find out about people. This week was a huge week right here, just being able to finish Arizona, finish that game the way it went with all the ups and downs. I thought it was very similar to the Seattle game and then these games coming ahead are going to be big too. We’ve got to go on the road for two weeks, back-to-back, which we did earlier this year. We’ve got a big game this week versus green bay. There’s lots of football here to play. Each game’s going to be huge so just trying to take it one week at a time and make sure we don’t look too far down the road because everyone’s in this it seems like right now. We’ve got to make sure we get stuff done this week.”


How’s LB Dre Greenlaw been the last couple weeks?

“I think he’s been real good. He made some huge plays versus Seattle. I think yesterday, their schemes, their quarterback and stuff kind of slows everyone down a little bit, but I thought our guys rallied to the ball a lot, I thought they made some good tackles, they eliminated most of the big plays. I don’t think we had a lot of splash plays. I don’t think you guys got to see a lot of big hits or turnovers or anything like that, but I thought Greenlaw was very solid and sound and made his tackles.”


Defense has obviously been statistically surging everywhere except for against the run. Was that something that you expected moving to the wide-nine this year, that you might drop off a little bit against the run defensively?

“No, I didn’t expect that. I think it depends what time of the year that was in. I don’t think we’ve handled the run as well here, I want to guess, over the last five weeks. I don’t think that was like that all the time. Sometimes you worry about focusing on other areas. I thought we did a lot better versus the run versus Arizona than we did the first time. You’ve always got to account for the quarterback pulling it. He got a bunch of yards off of that. I thought we handled their running backs a lot better. That was the plan going in. We thought we had a better plan to stop their running backs, but we knew by doing that we were going to give up a number of yards to [Arizona Cardinals QB] Kyler [Murray], but we kept them out of the end zone enough.”


Each of the last three weeks you’ve kind of been put to the test from a game management perspective and how to manage it in the late stages of the fourth quarter and whatnot. How important do you think that’s going to be moving into a postseason push that you guys expect to have and being in some of these tight games in the late stages?

“It’s always important, its huge, both sides. It’s not just calling timeouts and stuff, just watching the clock, but also trying to figure out what the best way is to win the game. Whether it’s through offense, defense or special teams has to do a lot with what we are and what we’re going against. That’s always changing game-to-game, play-to-play and quarter-to-quarter.”


On that touchdown, the last one to RB Jeff Wilson Jr., did you know that they were going to cover zero beforehand? What may have tipped you off and did anything else jump out at you looking at it?

“No, you never know what they’re doing unless you’ve got someone stealing signals but we would never do that. No, you’ve got to have an option for everything, especially [Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator] Vance [Joseph], who does that a lot, so you’ve always got to have an option for it. That’s not just a cover zero play, that’s a play that you can do versus everything, but when it is zero that is the cover zero option. It’s always a lot of pressure that is put on the O-Line, the quarterback and the running back. They all got it done, so it was real cool play to hit, a cool way of Jeff doing it. Especially with his first play in and it was a fun one to win the game on.”


How often do you guys get to run that defensive victory formation? I think DB D.J. Reed Jr. called it a bandit look. How often do you guys end up actually practicing that?

“We walk through it, it’s not something that we do full speed, but that was the dilemma there at the end. When we got the ball back and to call those runs, three runs plays knowing that they had three timeouts, for about two minutes there it was just us coaches debating ‘What’s the best chance for them to score? To block a field goal and return it for a touchdown or to do some type of lateral play for a touchdown because they’re only going to have one more play.’ That was a stressful debate for a couple of minutes that I’ve never had to debate before and we thought the lateral stuff would be a lower percentage so we took all our D-Linemen out, which [defensive line coach Kris] Kocurek was very upset with. [DL Nick] Bosa wanted to go in and try to get another sack. We put [S] Marcell [Harris] in, [CB] Ahkello [Witherspoon] and I think it was [DB] Tarvarius [Moore] to play the D-Line. They had some rules to it, so it definitely made it a little bit easier when they’ve got a guy like their quarterback out there they can lateral it back to because he’s tough to tackle.”


You said yesterday TE Ross Dwelley has become one of your better football players just overall on the year. How much has he elevated himself to the point that even when George does come back, he can still be a key component of the offense as a second tight end?

“A lot. And he was doing that when George was here. He doesn’t get a bunch of the big passes and stuff. We always mess with him, he’s got the best four yards per catch average in the NFL right now. That’s why we went to him on third-and-three, it was like right at his spot. No, but Dwelley, the play he made versus Washington, I know he did that when Kittle was out there. I know he was doing it from the fullback position, but Dwelley is, he made some last year too. I want to say on the Thursday night game, some of the RPOs we hit him on a slant there in the red zone. Dwelley has had as sure of hands as anyone I’ve been around. You never know what coverages are going to dictate, but I know Dwelley is a guy the quarterback doesn’t mind going to any time. I know I’ve got a lot of confidence in him also.”


Can you take us through that Wilson play? I mean, it looked like both guys, Jimmy and Wilson had huge challenges on that play with the guy in Jimmy’s face and Jeff turned just as the ball was coming. How difficult is a play like that to hook up on and what impressed you most when you re-watched that?

“What impressed me most was just Jeff having the poise to do it without playing all game. He was the guy we definitely wanted in on the route, that’s the guy we practiced it with, but I actually kind of felt bad about putting him in that situation because that’s a lot of pressure to put on someone who hasn’t been out there every play. And to just throw someone in in that moment, I know he wants it definitely, but you want to know as a coach, are you doing the right thing because the other guys can run it also. And then watching Jeff get loose there in the huddle when they’re reviewing the play and stuff, that’s when I wasn’t sure if I was doing the right thing. But, to watch him go out there, he ran the route as good as he ever has in practice. You always want to run it off the WILL linebacker, but if the WILL linebacker blitzes, that means no one’s on you but that’s why the D-End is going to peel and then you’ve got to run the same route on the defensive end. It’s going to happen a lot faster because the defensive end is going to meet you four yards deep in the backfield as opposed to four yards past the line of scrimmage. He got that look, didn’t hesitate, set him perfect, and I thought the most impressive thing about it was how he caught it. I mean, it wasn’t the easiest catch. He came out of there right away and it caught him right in the back of his right eye. He was able to catch it and just run through the end zone. It was cool to watch his celebration. A lot of these guys have some pretty cool pre-determined celebrations, but as natural and happy of a celebration that I’ve seen, that you could tell he didn’t plan. It was fun to watch.”


How come you didn’t have RB Tevin Coleman in? Was that to deceive the defense too to have Jeff since they hadn’t seen him?

“I mean, Tevin has run that route a bunch for us this year, but Jeff’s just been running it real well the last few weeks. I know, you always kind of have an idea of what you’re going in with. We talked about this stuff on Saturday’s with the quarterbacks, with the coaches, and you put lots of guys in different routes. All of our guys can run a lot of the routes, but we decided we were going to go with Jeff when we got that route. I didn’t know I was going to call it until there was 30-seconds left in the game. It probably would have been better to ease him into it in the second quarter or something, but it came up there and they were reviewing it so it gave us time to think about it and put him in. It gave him time to get loose and he made everyone look good.”


Did that feel at all like the end of the Steelers game where you guys needed a defensive stop and it was DL Arik Armstead both times and then you came back and had a game-winning touchdown and then got one more defensive stop?

“Yeah, it was real cool. Especially when, the biggest one to me was when the offense went down and we turned it over. I think there was like, I want to say there was 3:45 left or four minutes and that kind of took all the air out of everyone a little bit, it seemed like it. But, then for the defense to come right out and go three-and-out like that, and then the offense to go down and score, then the defense to get that turnover, ended up getting some points too, which is always fun. It was a bunch of highs and lows in that game and it was a little bit exhausting, but we enjoyed it.”


You clearly enjoyed Dwelley’s yards per catch, found it quite humorous obviously. He seems to not. He does not smile. Is that part of the reason you enjoy it so much?

“A little bit. It’s fun to mess with him. I mean, we respect the heck out of him, I said he was the best football player on our team yesterday, so I don’t mind messing with his average. He also had a 14-yarder called back, so that’s where he got messed up, or it was 10 yards, I’m not sure, but it’s better to keep his average down just so we keep him humbled. We don’t want him to get carried away.”

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  2. The injury parade just keeps a marching on , at least one or two guys every game …. not getting $ worth out of Ford , he’s either limited with snaps or now out all together

    1. If they don’t make the playoffs from here it would be a huge disappointment. It is easy to say that at the beginning of the year going 9-7 wouldn’t have been seen as disappointing, but after a 9-1 start that would be a real wasted opportunity and very concerning regarding where the team is at.

  3. Last year I told KS to get a better grip on the injuries and get a new conditioning coach. This problem could end their season’s run for the playoffs if it doesn’t get addressed soon.
    KS should give the backups a chance and rest the starters. Keep them fresh for the playoffs.
    Mullens will be happy and able to relieve JG until the playoffs. We need good Jimmy to be healthy and hungry.
    The Niners should earn the reputation that they will play fairly, so it is a win/win for both sides. Thankfully, JL seems to be changing the culture.

    1. Sorry, my catfish is going over his head in the deep end.
      I will say that getting new trainers and strength and conditioning coaches still have not prevented injuries, but they want the players to play with violence, so injuries and attrition are inevitable, and to be expected.
      No, JG should be the starter, but if the Niners can manage to build a 2 score lead, Mullens should play in the 4th quarter to help finish the game. KS should not pull a Saben, with results like Tua.
      I do think they should be conservative with Kittle. The Niners have shown that Dwelley is a capable backup, so Kittle should not risk his injured leg to further injury. We all saw the backward flex of that knee, so that hyperextention looked serious. I even would not mind if they saved him for the playoffs, when his contributions would be critical for their success.
      Same thing with Ford. Hamstrings injuries can linger, so they should rest him, and his knee, until it really matters. Many hamstring injuries can be attributed to a lack of proper stretching, so maybe the strength and conditioning coaches should do a better, more thorough job.
      I whole heartedly agree that JL is changing the culture, for the better.

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  4. Why do I put up with my detractors?
    It is interesting to note that Grant has an 8 year old fan asking thoughtful questions, and has displayed more maturity than many of my detractors. They think that bullying, abusive behavior is making them look smart, clever and mature, but it does the exact opposite. My detractors act like spoiled brats, , so I just post away, and let them expose their lack of character, and their own worst traits.
    They may think they are scoring points, but it is against them. I do not let them bother me, because they have no power. Meanwhile, I dominate their thoughts, and they fall into their own trap, because my posting consumes their time and energy.
    They may think little of me, but just imagine what I think of them. Being mean, petty, vicious and hateful, says a lot more about them, than it does about me.
    I will continue to post, and help chronicle this wild ride. The Niners may not have followed everything that I post, but when I advocated that they use Dwelley as a receiver, and activate Jeff Wilson and Julian Taylor, then see that happening, I gain much satisfaction.
    Some day, KS will consider time outs to be precious, and saved for legitimate challenges, and the last 2 minutes of each half. When that happens, I will praise him, especially if it helps them win a game. Pete Carroll saved his time outs, and they helped the Seahawks to defeat the Niners, to my dismay. That was a teachable moment.
    I may have only wished for a non losing season, but now, I am getting greedy and hope for the playoffs. Who knows? If the planets and moon align, they may be competing for a ring. However, that will only happen if they improve. The Niners should not be resting on their laurels, and be not only hungry, but starved for more wins.
    I am jumping for joy, now that the Niners are relevant again, and no team is clearly dominant, so there is hope for glory. The Niner defense is playing NINER FOOTBALL, and defense wins championships.
    I hope the Niners become more balanced, and establish a running game. The less throws JG has to make, the less chance for a turnover, because the defense has to take into consideration the running game.

    1. I dominate their thoughts, and they fall into their own trap, because my posting consumes their time and energy.

      Well you got that right. That catfish HAS to be pyscho. But please, please don’t think for a second that 49ers coaches or front office/management reads these posts and or goes with what someone says here.

    2. Keep up the good work seb. I see an assistant coaching job with your name written all over it. There’s no way KS would let your talent go to waste.

  5. I will say it once, I will say it a million times. Some day, you will learn your lesson. Many others have tried, and failed, and now do not attempt to engage with me. This aint my first rodeo, so get a clue. Argue with me all you want, but I like arguing. I enjoy debating. I like to get in the last word. Sometimes I will take a contrary viewpoint just to argue. In the end, they all throw up their hands, and rue the day they even tried. You should take your own advice with your first sentence.
    Yes, many have assailed me, and make fun of me, but they do not realize what they are really doing. They are making me relevant enough to be considered a foe. Sure, I say unconventional things, but I like to think outside the box.
    Others on this site can engage with me civilly and politely, and I try to match their tenor. If you did not know this, I very rarely hurl expletives, but I do not suffer fools gladly, so I have a sharp tongue. I am verbose, and can joust with posters with every word in the dictionary. I sincerely hope to refrain from having to stoop to that, but some just seem to ask for it.
    I am happiest when I can discuss tactics and strategies with posters I respect. I do recognize that I am not the most football savvy poster here, but also assert that I am merely stating my opinion. I also do recognize that some self professed football savants here are as dumb as a post. Those I tend to humor. What I like most is reliving the memories from those Glory Years.
    I am content. Posters like Razor recognize that I am not like many trolls, who stir things up with hate against the Niners. He knows that while we may be diametrically opposed in areas, we both love the Niners and want them to win another Lombardy.
    So, by calling others idiots, you are just defining yourself. I will calmly, civilly engage you in a war of words, and will try to match your rhetoric, but I expect decent manners and politeness in return so everyone is not put off. This is a blog site. not the Library of Congress. It is what we make of it. Some like to haunt my posts, but I just consider them lightweights. However, like a moth to a flame, they cannot help themselves
    I will reiterate, I consider you a worthy opponent. At least you can frame an argument and use facts and logic in an intelligible manner. If you want to spend hours engaging me by writing long dissertations, I will tell you are wasting your time, and mine, too. The best advice is to just scroll past. Ignore me, and I will ignore you.
    So here is some sage blog advice. Stick to football. Keep it short. Make sense. Use facts. Lose the attitude. Do not go Emo. Spell correctly. Do that, and I will respect you, and be civil.
    Not only does Grant think that I am the most erudite poster. He appreciates and admires my tenacity to rile up the ranks. When some get out of hand, Grant has my back and I have his

    1. This catfish is very clever, and has read every one of my posts. Glad I am dominating his thoughts, and making him obsess about me.

      1. You have to admit, Sebs, the guy is Rich Little—doing you! I’ll bet this guy could do Terry Bradshaw………

        He’s got you down perfectly–you should be flattered!!!!

    2. sebnynah

      Argue with me all you want, but I like arguing. I enjoy debating. I like to get in the last word. Sometimes I will take a contrary viewpoint just to argue.

      You aren’t just pathetic, you are certifiable nuts!

      1. I do like to get in the last word. It blunts their last post. Arguing on a blog? Stop the presses! This is big news!
        Actually, Grant invites posters to argue with him.
        I am beginning to think Cassie is behind this catfish. She has been assiduously researching all of my previous posts.

        1. The ‘last word’ never blunts anything. If you post something dumb, repeating it later and last in no way legitimizes the logic or lack-there-of behind your initial vacuous assertion. Nor does it delegitimize any other assertion by anyone else.
          “Tag you’re it” and “Gotchya last” are pre-school games. Wear it.

          1. You may think that getting in the last word is specious, but it does make sense.
            Maybe you have forgotten the phrase. -He who laughs last, laughs best.

          2. Dave K – I’m still convinced that this sebnynah ‘guy’ is a HS school kid. His antics and boasting that people are obsessed with him is so childish that only an immature teenager would be proud of that.

            Sometimes I will take a contrary viewpoint just to argue.

            is such a sick statement and call for attention, I hope his parents keep the guns locked up!
            People who always want the last word usually end up alone…..

            1. He’s actually got a lot of time on his hands since he’s on his riding mower all day. Things were better for all of us when he actually had to push the mower.

            2. Boasting posters are obsessed by me? No, just showing how petty and infantile my detractors are. I am telling the truth, and the truth hurts.
              You seem pretty obsessed, too. I am living in your head, but you let me do that.
              I give great advice when I say you should just scroll past, but you seem incapable of taking good advice.

            3. Ahh-he just does it cuz Sebs cant play soccer anymore. Fussing like a modern day sun zoo is Sebs new sport…………………….though Sebs hasn’t fussed much lately.

              1. You seem pretty obsessed.
                I am living in your head, but you let me do that.
                This is not my first rodeo

            4. This Seb catfish from the last 6 Seb posts belong to an adult male. Probably 35-45 yo with the mental age of a devious 17 yo. He’s twisted and has a few character flaws. He has past mental issues that weren’t addressed b/c he doesn’t think he has a problem but his parents know. He has some college education but probably isn’t married and is a loner.

              1. Haha! I am obsessed with comedic talent, fake Sebs–and you got it! Love your stuff…………..On the other hand, so does the real Sebs………..

              2. Greg, That is what I’ve been saying all along. Sebnynah is a HS kid who gets a kick out of stirring things up. There is no catfish with the same logo. Only some sockpuppets that this kid uses to get more attention.

              3. I want everyone to know that I did NOT write this. I have no knowledge about this Greg(?) guy.
                I would never make up an account just to deride some poor soul. I have my integrity to keep me upright and out of deceit!

                Greg says:
                November 20, 2019 at 2:23 pm

                This Seb catfish from the last 6 Seb posts belong to an adult male. Probably 35-45 yo with the mental age of a devious 17 yo. He’s twisted and has a few character flaws. He has past mental issues that weren’t addressed b/c he doesn’t think he has a problem but his parents know. He has some college education but probably isn’t married and is a loner.

      2. I agree I think this dude is making this whole catfish thing up.
        He can’t even space the posts out long enough to make it believable.

        1. First he says it makes him important, now he says it’s his cross to bear.
          Insanity is not when you talk to your self, but when you talk back to your self…..

  6. A friends son was an elite tennis player growing up. Did all the USTA big tournaments all over the country. He was ranked very high in the juniors nationally. My wife played tennis in college. Mother in law was a high school tennis coach for 35 years. They all say he was one of the best high school players they’d ever seen play. He suffered a repetitive motion injury where he had a small hairline fracture in his lower back. Ended up losing 2.5 years due to the injury. Still went on to a fairly successful career at a D1 tennis program but never really was the same player. I’m wondering if Jalen Hurd’s injury is the same type of deal. He could miss multiple years or perhaps this back injury could even be a career ender.

    1. To be fair, the back is major in tennis. It pretty much runs the serve, an awful lot of pressure on it. Not that it’s not major in football, but even minor tweaks can be career-ending in tennis.

        1. Renas said…

          Not that it’s [the back] not major in football.”

          To clarify, I don’t believe Renas was asserting the back isn’t important in football.

  7. I asked Matt Barrows why he thought that Shanny called Wilson’s # for that scoring play considering that Coleman is supposed to be the best pass catcher in the RB group. (I was wondering if Shanny was trying to sell a run). Mat’s answer was interesting. He thought that Wilson had been impressive on that exact play during practice.

    The catch wasn’t easy. The stone-hands receivers should take tips from Wilson.

    1. In the first game against the Cardinals, Tevin Coleman had a huge drop on a screen pass when the 49ers were deep in their own territory. Screen was set up for a huge gain, perhaps even a TD, but Coleman let it slip right through his hands. Perfect pass, perfect setup with the blockers but he flat out dropped it. I wonder if that drop by Coleman had anything to do with Shanahan going to Wilson on the game winning TD.

    1. I certainly did not start it. If you look at that first post, my catfish directly misrepresented my position on many topics.
      You must think I have no right to defend myself.
      k, instead of whining, try saying something about how to defeat the Packers.

      1. i am sure no one on the 49er staff needs any input from me on how to defeat the think so would be the height of hubris . a term i am sure you are familiar with

        1. I will say this again. If I were truly serious, I would flood the Niners with emails.
          Please stop being so weak minded, and easily upset. I write as if they are doting on every word, so just accept my style of writing, and scroll past.
          Hubris? Like you are the sole judge of what other posters write? You should just stick to football, and dazzle me with your insights.

      2. Seb,
        Instead of responding every time, how bout you just post a # sign right below your trolls post, letting us all know that the post is not yours. It will be a lot less time wasted responding to someone you have no interest in. imho

        1. OC, the problem is, the catfish will just do that, too.
          The good thing is, the catfish may sound like me, but many recognize my style of writing. I do not talk about ‘my fans’ or other nonsense like that.

          1. Any time this imposter mentions ‘catfish’, you know it’s not me.
            Any time the imposter makes fun of people, that’s not me.
            Any time the imposter calls people names, that’s not me.
            Any time the imposter sounds dumb, that’s not me.
            Any time the imposter writes just ONE sentence that’s not like me at all.

              1. Please stop being so weak minded, and easily upset. I write as if they are doting on every word, so just accept my style of writing, and scroll past.

      3. All right, Sebs–here’s something to chew on……………Packers are pretty weak in the middle of their D-pretty good D-backs………..don’t know enough about their D-line to comment………..So. thats where the majority of our attack should be-in the middle, relatively………
        If they continue to stack 8, we should strongly consider a BW use of the pass to set up the run…………but having said this, we have to figure out how to get this running game unhinged–I’m thinking more Wilson……….

        Yes/No, Sebs?

        1. Nice try.
          The Niner defense should rush 5 with exotic blitzes, and play tight man. The jam at the line of scrimmage will disrupt the timing. Sending safeties off the edges and Warner on delayed blitzes up the middle, will have quick enough defenders to bring them down.

          JG must play fast by throwing quick slants like Rodgers did at times. The should negate the pass rush by doing screens. They should put a player in motion so he is at full speed at the snap of the ball. JG should do fly sweeps and bubble screens. They should counter the defensive speed by doing counters, reverses and misdirections.
          I would also put Sherman at free safety and let him call the shots.

  8. that’s a play that you can do versus everything, 

    I did point out that play is opened everytime they call it…..easy touchdown everytime…

    Follow question should have been ..if you have plays like that why not run it more….

  9. Backup what Saleh was saying/implying about facing Murray.

    “Whatever Kyler Murray has on the 49ers’ defense, he should bottle it and sell it to other teams. The Cardinals lost a close one in Santa Clara on Sunday, falling 36-26 to Kyle Shanahan’s team after Jimmy Garoppolo connected with running back Jeff Wilson Jr. on a 25-yard touchdown pass with 31 seconds left in the game. The subsequent defensive touchdown was in response to Arizona’s desperate lateral derby as time expired, but let’s get back to Murray against his division opponent. This season, all other quarterbacks facing the 49ers have completed 56.8% of their passes for 165.5 yards per game, six touchdown passes to 11 interceptions, and a passer rating of 62.0. Murray is the only quarterback to post a passer rating over 100 against this defense, and he’s done it twice — once in a 28-25 Week 9 loss, and in this game, when he completed 24 of 33 passes for 150 yards, two touchdowns and no picks. In those two games, Murray has a 71.9% completion rate, 195.5 yards per game, four touchdown passes and no interceptions, and a passer rating of 114.0. He also has the only rushing touchdown by a quarterback against San Francisco this season.”

  10. I found this tidbit about the Falcons interesting.

    “In an unusual twist, Quinn assigned linebackers coach Jeff Ulbrich to call first- and second-down defense and assistant head coach/defensive backs coach Raheem Morris to call the third-down defense. It’s worked like a charm. Over their past two games, the Falcons haven’t allowed a touchdown, they’ve picked off four passes, added 11 sacks to their team total, and they’re 2-0 with road wins against the Saints and Panthers. Atlanta’s 29-3 win over Carolina on Sunday won’t likely be enough to get Quinn’s team to the postseason, but it may save his job — and if this sticks, rightfully so.”

    1. Interesting, so this is the big change that Quinn made… Long ago, Morris was a young, rising coach who probably became a HC way too early.

  11. Losing Ford for a few weeks after losing Blair last week is a real blow heading into a stretch of games against top teams. Hopefully they can find a way to replace his presence off the edge.

    1. Maybe the offense can make the defense’s job easier by getting back to running the football, and establishing an early lead.

      1. I just watched an ‘in depth” segment by Chris Simms. He basically parroted what everyone is saying in that opposing defenses will be crowding the line of scrimmage and making Jimmy G beat them. Why KS didn’t run more screens against Seattle is surprising.

        I get the impression that Jimmy is really trying to hang in the pocket and he showed some real courage against the Cardinals. But I wonder if KS is pushing him hard to stay in the pocket. In the 2017 season one of Jimmy’s strengths was in executing off-schedule plays. KS even mentioned this as one of the reasons why they signed Jimmy. I’d like to see more of that when warranted. IIRC, he did it a couple of times against the Cardinals. Maybe it’s the knee though that is limiting him.

              1. Teams have figured out Shanny’s misirection and confusing schemes.


                a) new schemes and new looks (not enough time to come up with multiples during the season)
                b) better talent (see above)
                c) focus on bettering the passing game to force the 8th defender to back off

                I think you will see a lot more of ‘c’ down the stretch..

              2. Niners didn’t use a whole lot of misdirection in this game, although the breakthrough play by Richie James (57 yards) was a well-executed misdirection, right?

                The cause of the problem is probably more simple: more stacked boxes and less competent blocking by Celek/Dwelley compared to Furious George.

              3. OC,

                It’s just the loading of the box or guys flying up/flowing hard. It’s really hard to run when the defense sends more than you can block.

                I’d like to see them counter with some fly runs and use the outside screen game as part of that run game. Get the ball out to Samuel on those multiple times per game. He’s built for it.

    1. UDFAs… While the draft is fun–mostly–the initial UDFA signing period immediately following is where I pay the most attention. Year-to-year, many gems to be had.

      1. Imagine how many more and better UDFA’s Niners could have signed had Lynch been fired in accordance to Grant’s wishes….

  12. Jeff Deeney

    PFF data has shown that you don’t have to be running the ball effectively to be effective using play action. Yesterday was a prime example. Despite the #49ers RBs averaging just 1.5 ypc, Garoppolo was 10-11, 151 yards, 1 TD, 149.1 passer rating when using play action.

  13. How to beat the stacked box? Spread them out wide, and attack the edges. The Cards did that to start the game. Those 3 WR sets, and quick bubble screens, can be effective.
    Put Goodwin in motion, so he is at full speed at the snap of the ball, and do an end around.
    Take advantage of their defenses’ speed by doing counters and misdirections.
    Still think they should line up Wilson deep in the I, and let him build up a head of steam before letting him choose the weakness in their line. Wilson runs well between the tackles, and deserves more snaps.

  14. Grant you were right about the Dee Ford acquisition…..without the noise of Arrowhead he won’t have as many sacks and you were right….when he does play he looks like a portion of his old self which I never cared for….was hoping they would get Houston instead??

    So question is ? nest year do they replace him and draft another Edge rusher????

    1. He was pretty good in the early part of the year when semi-healthy. He’s been battling an injury since training camp so not sure why you replacement a guy playing on one leg with 6.5 sacks.
      He’ll be fine when he gets healthy and he’s been a good mentor for Bosa.

      1. Thanks PT and Jack…..yeah he is effective when he is in there…for sure= just a concern about how often we get him on the field?….is it worth it to carry a guy for 17.5million a year that plays 25% of the time?? Seems off…..

        1. When a guy can give you 6.5 sacks while only playing 35% of the snaps the answer is yes.

          On the salary part, Ford won’t count for $17 mil against the cap until 2021.

          Stop worrying about the money and enjoy the fact that the team has the best record in the conference and is a missed FG from the backup kicker away from being undefeated.

    2. Ford has been very good in his role, and I believe there was even a comment from Grant earlier this year that he’d been off with that noise of Arrowhead comment.

  15. Ford has an arthritic knee. That’s not going away. We all know that when the body has one part that isn’t in working order, it compensates and puts strain on another part of the body. Some people made this case in Kevin Durant’s injury.

    He’s a player that will provide diminishing returns at an accelerated rate.

    I think it was a bad signing.

    Maybe he can get a stem cell treatment in that knee.

    I was looking at Kwon Alexander on the sidelines. He actually looks rather thin. He might have 0 fat ratio on a mesomorphic frame, but my takeaway was that his body is not built for the long haul. And the way he plays increases both risk and potential injury.

    He seems like someone that can carry around 215-220 naturally, not a bulked up and weight roomed 235, 240.

    I’d be very surprised if they get a full season of service out of him moving forward.

    The Ronald Blair injury stings. Moore came up big time. Good to have him on speed dial.

    Lastly, I re-watched the last game and paid attention to Justin Skule. He moves really well. He’s not a statue like Staley at this point.

    Big test this weekend versus The Smiths.

    BTW, I hate the Packers. The 90’s have still left a bad taste in my mouth.

    1. Yes and yes and yes…..Ford at 17.5 million a year to me is a stretch…..not if he is banged up all year every year on gimpy knees….diminished returns is an understatement

  16. One more look in the rear view mirror. I think one of the least respected Niners of all time was Jeff Garcia. He was terrific and Owens was the perfect receiver to take his 15-20 passes and turn them into 30-50 yard RAC.

    He in many ways was a QB in the wrong era.

    Jeff Garcia in today’s NFL is a valued commodity.

    1. Yes Garcia may do well in this era, plus he was tough and smart…also Mariuci was a strange coach…… I expected more out of him= he came with a lot of hoopla and well didn’t really deliver….

      1. Mooch was carried by the talent that Seifert left behind.

        I liked Seifert and he got a raw deal.

        He couldn’t beat Dallas or Green Bay. But not many teams could.

        Niners brass made a big mistake though by promoting Seifert over Mike Holmgren.

        I’m thinking that Walsh suffered from Paul Brown syndrome, when Brown passed him over for Bill Johnson.

        I don’t think that Walsh wanted another brilliant offensive mind to eclipse him.

        Niners loss, Packers gain.

        1. Didn’t Seifert inherit a great team and philosophy from Walsh?
          How well did Seifert do on other teams?
          Oops, I might be shooting myself in the foot (or is it the mouth?)

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