Kyle Shanahan’s remarkable press conference. And what it means going forward

Kyle Shanahan doesn’t do in-person press conferences now. But in a virtual session with reporters last week he made strong statements about racial unrest in the United States. (AP Photo/Josie Lepe)

I don’t think we have talked enough about Kyle Shanahan’s press conference.

You probably heard about it. Appearing on-screen in a virtual presser with beat reporters last week, Shanahan stepped right into questions about the #Blacklivesmatter protests. And he left no doubt about where he stood.

“Racism is a big deal in our country now,” he said. “That’s a fact. It is not debatable.”

You knew he was going to say something of course. First, the question was bound to come up when he met the beat reporters. (In fact, it was the first one.)

And second, at this point, almost every team is making a point to get on record with some comment on the unrest. In fact, a Tuesday morning news report called out the five “major sports teams” who had not issued a statement.

But this wasn’t a crafted, boilerplate, one-paragraph press release; the kind of thing a team would send out to make sure they were covered.

Shanahan appeared in his now-trademark flat bill cap and a bushy expanse of facial hair that would make any hipster jealous. He was clearly fired up and had given the topic lots of thought.

Asked about the protests, Shanahan went a good five minutes in his first reply and didn’t stop there. He spoke for a full 17 minutes before answering a football query. The discussion was so engrossing that no one thought to ask a Jimmy Garoppolo question until 20 minutes into the 30-minute interview.

Now, we can debate the opinions and assumptions made by Shanahan at some point. (And from what I’ve seen of this group, that is definitely going to happen.)

But from a 49ers standpoint, don’t miss the significance. At least in that press conference, Shanahan was stepping into Steve Kerr and Gregg Popovich territory. The two outspoken basketball coaches have made a point to speak up on national issues, including politics.

Popovich released a video last week on the Spurs social media outlet, saying he was “embarrassed” to watch the video of George Floyd dying under the knee of a Minneapolis police officer.

Kerr is more likely to use humor. This morning he highlighted a Tweet saying President Trump was considering “a speech to the nation on race and unity.” Kerr’s response: “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!”

So is Shanahan stepping up to join the new world order of coaches, who are not only paying attention to current events but have opinions?

You know, it wasn’t long ago that coaches seemed perversely proud of their ignorance of the events of the day. They told us they were too busy sleeping on a cot in their office and studying film to comment.

So to be clear, I fully support Shanahan making his opinions known. Good for him.

I would just say to be very, very careful about the words you use. Words and phrases have never been more fraught.

Perhaps you heard about the Sacramento Kings announcer Grant Napear, who was fired from his job last week. Napear responded to a Tweet by former Kings (and Warriors) center DeMarcus Cousins, asking what he thought of “black lives matter.”

Napear replied “All lives matter . . . Every single one.”

Which, surely, almost everyone knows is a bitter trigger to #blacklivesmatter supporters. They see it as diminishing and minimizing their message. It makes them angry.

Napear insists he didn’t know the controversy, which is hard to imagine, frankly. But if that was true, I guess it is possible to imagine someone cluelessly thinking, “What’s wrong with saying all lives matter?”

It’s very tricky. You may have seen the story about the editor at the Philadelphia Inquirer who resigned after his section ran an architectural story with the headline, “Buildings Matter, Too.” Outrage followed, including from black staffers.

The headline was dumb and tone-deaf. But you can picture someone trying to think of a clever headline and believing they had come up with something topical. That’s when somebody should have stopped them, stepped back, and said, “Wait, how is this going to sound, given the current cultural climate?”

That said, let’s not go off on a “keep politics out of sports” tangent. Politics have always been part of sports. I’m old enough to remember interviewing baseball players on the Vietnam War.

As for racial tension and sports, I would submit they are the perfect intersection to have that conversation. In fact, I’d say sports are where most Americans work out their feelings about race. The most popular sport in the country is professional football and two-thirds of NFL players are black.

On the field, floor, or ice, teams are remarkably merit-based.  If you can play, you play. Or coach.

“We’ve got a Muslim coordinator,” Shanahan said. “We’ve got a black coordinator. We’ve got a lesbian. We’ve got everything.”

And, before the quarantine, teams like the 49ers brought people of all races together, both in stadiums and in cities and neighborhoods. People of every background and ethnicity were united in their support of a cause — their football team.

OK, it isn’t world peace, but it’s a start.

And if the head coach wants to step up and voice his opinions in public, there can be only one response.

Welcome to the fray.

Contact C.W. Nevius at cw.nevius@pressdemocrat.com. Twitter: @cwnevius

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  1. “I’m old enough to remember interviewing baseball players on the Vietnam War.” … C. W. Nevius

    C. W. I sure hope you are able to hang around here as long as possible.

    I’m old enough to have been too old for the Vietnam War, but I was in Bangkok to stop the dominoes from falling, and to hear very young R.&R G.I.s call home to their mothers and girl friends from the Bangkok Telephone Company where it was possible to make three minute international calls. It typically took a three hour wait to get your “time slot”. There was no privacy for those calling home. It was a tough listen.

  2. I think KS is a great football coach and I am very happy he is our football coach. The little I know of him I believe him to be a good man and a good father but he should be careful when he speaks about subjects other than football. He is holding the 49ers organization and himself up as examples of diversity hiring. There is only one problem with that, unlike most HC’s who are hired by GM’s the opposite was true about him. He is a HC who hired his own GM now while Louis Riddick was considered for the job he hired John Lynch a white man. Now I believe it was an excellent hire I also believe Riddick may have been a good hire also. We will never know because he wasn’t given the chance. Just something to think about. CW if you ever get a chance I would love to hear how Shanahan would handle a question about that.

    1. LOL–Lynch is good? I knew when took Thomas and Foster in the first round in 2017 he sucked. He spent a $100 mill on 2 players with with injuries in Ford and Alexander. Now, it catching up with the team. If Thomas and Foster worked out he’s never need Ford and Alexander. Just lucky his picks set the team back, so he could get a know brainer in Bosa with the 2nd pick. Didn’t have the $ to re-sighn Bucker so he over paid for Armstead. Had to let Sanders go for a measley $8 mill. Passed on Mahomes and Watson when the biggest need was a Q.B. P.S, this coming from a season tx holder for 35 years!!

  3. Everyone has the right to an opinion but no one has the right to ride roughshod over someone for having theirs.

    1. Everyone has the right to an opinion but no one has the right to ride roughshod over someone for having theirs.

      Oh WOW, this must be your catfish Razor unless NOW you are supporting Kaepernick…

  4. CW,
    Thank you for your fine article.
    I would like to make a comment in regards to the firing of Grant Napier.
    His comment that “all lives matter” may have been very untimely considering the present conditions of our nation, but can anyone prove that his untimely comment had an intent to be offensive?

    If we’re going to single out and fire people for making comments which are based more on ignorance rather than intent to offend, then we should also bring a strong rebuke of Hillary’ comment, “they all like alike” when confusing Cory Booker and Eric Holder.
    I’m still taken aback that she could get a pass (especially by many African Americans who were in attendance) given that fact that a comment like this whether a joke as she termed it, is considered racist.

    The pendulum should swing both ways imo.
    Btw, I speak as a person who protested against the Vietnam War on the streets of University & Telegraph in Berkeley CA. In the mid-sixties.
    I felt at that time the war was wrong and although on a smaller scale, Hillary’ comments about African Americans were also wrong.

    Thank you, for your excellent work throughout your career. And for allowing an old man to vent a little.

    1. but can anyone prove that his untimely comment had an intent

      “All lives matter” and it’s cousin “blue lives matter” have been the BLM deniers mantra from the get go. It probably trended just as high as BLM during the height of the Kaepernick protests. Anyone who works in media, as Mr Napier does, would have been well aware and knew exactly what he was getting at when quoting it. Should he have lost his job over it? I don’t think so. The standard “if whoever was offended” non-apology might have saved the day. Or even a Brees-esque mea culpa. But there were probably other mitigating circumstances unknown to us.

      1. Well, one mitigating circumstance may have been that no other sports writer criticized the play of Cousins more than Napier when Boogie played for the Sac. Kings.
        Those two did not like each other. I was surprised that they were brought together for an interview.

    2. I’m still taken aback that she could get a pass (especially by many African Americans who were in attendance) given that fact that a comment like this whether a joke as she termed it, is considered racist.

      Then you must also be taken aback that Hillary received 92% of the black vote in ’16? POC must be too *something* to realize that are voting for a racist. What is that something, AES?

      1. Rib,
        Obviously, I don’t deny the percentage of African Americans who voted for Hillary.
        But I ask you this, a large group of African Americans and Mexican Americans voted for Trump, what do you call them? I pose this question to Dee as well.

        1. But I ask you this, a large group of African Americans and Mexican Americans voted for Trump, what do you call them?

          Ben Carson.

              1. Rib,
                Nice attempt at evasive measures. But it never truly answered the original question.
                “But I ask you this, a large group of African Americans and Mexican Americans voted for Trump, what do you call them?”
                But now, you’ve opened the door to another question. Is every African American and Mexican American who supports Trump “grossly unqualified on their jobs” since you have you quantified them as Ben Carson?

              2. I never answered the question because it was null and void to begin with. Only in your mind is 6% of anything is a “large group”. Trumps diet is 93% hamburgers. Is he getting a large group of fresh vegetables?

                As far as Carson goes he’s a brilliant neurosurgeon. What does that background prepare for housing urban development ? It’s like asking a Supreme Court justice to land a 747. Oh, and nice try in get me to group “unqualifieds” on racial grounds. You almost had me, didn’t you?

              3. AES, since you are insisting this group is “large” (not unlike Trump-esque gaslighting), I’ll play along. The political scientist in me says likely nearly all were religious conservatives, anti-abortion single issue voters. Throw in a smattering who fell for “what have you got to lose?”

              4. Trump must be the worst racist in history. I mean he’s done more for the Black people in this country inn3 years than Obama and his sidekick corn pop did.
                So you must be black I’m guessing Rib… it’s obvious you’re voting for Corn pop. Just want to know if you’re as smart as white kids, or were you there brushing the beads of water off of his hairy legs at the pool?
                If You and any mind controlled clown think these democrats give two craps about blacks and us Latinos you’re sorely mistaken.
                How long have these pandering outright racists been in office?
                How many of the poorest and high crime cities in this country have been democrat ran? For decades?
                Your controller mind is so stained with CNN **it you can’t even give the man any respect for what he’s done for the black Americans in this country.
                All good. Your team of racists knows the black vote is rising for trump. So they jump all over this tragedy. Politicize it, and pander whole wearing slave owning colors of Africa. That’s how stupid they are. And it says a lot about their minions who vote for them to keep the minority where they’re at.
                All good. Trump doesn’t need your vote. He’s going to win Yuge in November. They know it. And deep down in your rotten America hating gut. YOU KNOWIT!
                Maybe this time Voter ID will be set in and devils like Corn pop won’t get those illegal votes like your girl Hillary got.
                She got wasted and you know it!

                As far as BLM. It’s nothing but a racist group. Paid for by Soros a Jewish Nazi who turned in his own people to the Nazi! And admitted to this.
                They come in with Soy boys like onelame antifa members and do nothing but what they’re paid to do. Riot and loot. Beat up white people. And cause havoc.
                Destroy any memory of a tragedy and hurt the communities they don’t even live in by burning businesses down and wrecking life for the people who live there.
                You back this racist group and you’re a racist too. Period!
                And they started from the Micheal Brown lie. His hands weren’t up when he was shot. He robbed a store minutes prior. And attacked a cop and reached for his gun.
                His friend on scene said so. And Obama’s FBI investigation said the same. But cnn didn’t tell you that.
                The fact that some of America wants to ignore the fact that Black people are killed by their own by a big percentage higher than any cop tells you all you need to know about BLM backers.
                More unarmed White people were killed by cops since 15 than black and Latino combined!
                But that doesn’t matter. Just whatever the left wing nut riders on prime time “news” decides to show. They will never show a white or Latino killed by a cop.
                Because it doesn’t spark outrage and Latinos and whites don’t have a terrorist funding rioters for them.
                Pretty funny how it’s ok to riot and protest with that “deadly ” virus still around isn’t it?
                What a joke!
                And please respond with your data on the numbers of unarmed citizens killed by cops.
                I’d love to explain and refute what you’re going to say. I already know what it is. So THINK stupid, before replying!
                Have a great day racist!

              5. As far as BLM. It’s nothing but a racist group. Paid for by Soros a Jewish Nazi who turned in his own people to the Nazi! And admitted to this

                As always, we can depend on md for the report from the VERY unhinged fringe. I fear for his well being the next 4 years.

        2. Art, I call them uninformed and most likely greedy, self serving capitalists who don’t care about morals, integrity or this country just money.
          What do you call them Art?

            1. So nice to know that I have an assistant following me around.
              Did you relieve yourself TP?
              Is it time to move on?

              1. One of the best Presidents in the last 20 years.
                Rewards the workers and entrepreneurs and makes the lazy and free loaders accountable.

                Sleepy Joe has no chance!

              2. You don’t like Trump because you probably don’t have any money or a job.
                Slackers don’t like Trump because they don’t want to take risk or make money the hard way.

              3. Prime, the ones that don’t mind anymore police have gates and guards. The ones that don’t mind the lock down have $20,000 refrigerators filled with gourmet ice cream.

              4. Sitting on their arse waiting for a cheque in the mail! Same thing up here. Lazy losers criticizing the government for everything that happens like they could have controlled it.
                Being non-American, I’ll tell you, Biden hurts us whereas Trump helps us.

              5. TP, I can only guess what kind of job you have since you keep posting here…..
                Do you return the gov checks?

          1. “Art, I call them uninformed and most likely greedy, self serving capitalists who don’t care about morals, integrity or this country just money.
            What do you call them Art?”

            People who have embraced the educational and the economic freedoms that your Democrat Party tried to snuff out during the 18th and 19th centuries.
            Read a little more about racism in American history before blaming everything on only one Party.

            If you’re a registered Democrat, you should apologize for all the grief, destruction and death against Black’s, Latinos and Asians caused by the Party you support.
            But hey, in your perfect view it’s much more easier to point at Trump.

  5. Politics have always been part of sports.

    Thank you. I’ve been beating that drum here for I don’t know how long. It isn’t always as overt as a John Carlos, Tommie Smith or a Mohammed Ali. What does a F-16 stadium flyover have to do with football anyway?

    1. I have always disliked the military trappings of NFL. This flag-waving, F-16 flying show of patriotism before NFL games seems fake to me. I’d rather if we showed our support for our military by paying the enlisted soldiers better so their young families enjoy a better living standard.

  6. Ht,
    Well, during the People’s Park controversy and protests around that time a young man standing on a roof near the park was shot and killed.
    Helicopters were used to drop tear gas to disperse the angry crowds.
    Sather Gate and Telegraph Ave, looked like a cloud of fog had rolled in, when in fact, it was all the tear gas.

      1. I was bit by a sheriff’s dog in the buttocks on my backdoor step to the amusement of a county brownie.

  7. Millions of contacts by police in 2019 leaving 1000 dead. That number stays pretty consistent every year, and is considered a Poisson random variable. Over 300 of that 1000 were unarmed, and of those 9 were black….

    1. Dummy….you are Tone Deaf…..are you still trying hard to hold unto “This is a small murder by bad Apple’s argument”

      Dude…You missed the Train….moron is quoting stats……let me quote you names who died unjustly… Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Philando Castile, Breonna Taylor and many others…..

      Tell those families their child is only statistics you use to defend police injustice…

      1. And what of Wenjian Liu, Rafael Ramos, Lorne Ahrens, Michael Krol, Micheal Smith, Brent Thompson, Patricio Zammaripa? What do you tell their families? Or what do you tell the families of the other 89 police officers killed in the line of duty in 2019? Or what do you tell familes of law enforcement officers assaulted in the line of duty? There were over 500k incidents of assault on police officers last year. Do you say, “Don’t worry, it’s just part of the job?”

        This issue isn’t as easy as saying all police are racist and therefore target minorities. In many of the cases, the officers involved are also minorities. IMO the real issue with police is training related to avoiding excessive use of force in techniques to subdue suspects. And the other bigger issue is breaking down the “Us vs Them” attitude that inevitably seeps into every major police department. On the other side of the ledger, the people police encounter are rarely innocent bystanders that did nothing wrong to warrant police intervention. That also is part of the equation that must be considered. Michael Brown is a great example of that point.

        1. Police deaths are a self fulfilling prophecy, when police are out of control. People will see how the police treat people, and start treating police the same way.
          .
          Now we just had policemen being ambushed, but the violence came from a right wing nut job, who was trying to inflame things, to project blame on the protesters.
          .
          Sure, you can cite statistics. There are way too many gun deaths in America. Maybe it would be better to fight against the root causes of crime, like the insane drug war, where more people die from legal drugs than illegal drugs. Eliminating poverty would also reduce crime. People with jobs have little incentive to commit crimes.
          .
          The police have an awesome responsibility. They are the protectors of life and property, and have lethal means to effect control. When the rogue cops lose perspective, they become the judge, jury and executioner. Rogue cops make the job of decent cops a million times harder. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.

          1. So your message to the families of murdered police officers is “Well they deserved it.”

            JFC, that may be the most disgusting thing I’ve ever read.

            Stephen Carillo was not some right wing plant trying to make protesters look bad. That’s just insane. Stop making $hit up out of whole cloth. Just absolutely disgusted with you right now.

            1. Calm down. I did not advocate for any outcome, but just detailing reality.
              .
              I do think that some anarchists, maybe from both sides, who are masking their agenda behind the protests.
              .
              Glad to see you show your true self, defending Stephen Carillo. Personally, I think cop killers are scum.

              1. He didn’t. It’s just a typical right wing tactic to deflect from an uncomfortable truth by bringing up something else. That’s why issues like this never get dealt with. It’s easier to just point out another problem and compare while doing nothing to address either of them.

              2. “Well Kristy, Lyncoln, and Dylan – So sorry your Husband and Dad was shot and killed providing police protection to a Black Lives Matter march in Dallas. You know his murder was just a self-fulfilling prophecy because of police violence in Louisiana and Minnesota. When police in other states are out of control, it’s just a matter of time before people in Dallas are going to start killing police officers. Really, it’s your Dad’s fault for being a cop.”

                Seb

                Read this you POS and never ever reply to me again.

                https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dfw/obituary.aspx?n=patricio-e-zamarripa-patrick&pid=180659059

              3. I refuse to accept you projecting vile motives upon my part. I want more justice, so there are less killings, of everyone. You are the one that added the word- deserves, and I vehemently refute any advocation of cop killing , or delighting in their demise. The only police officers that deserves justice, are the rogue cops who think they are above the law.
                .
                Just like Kaep and his protest, he was not trying to denigrate the Military, just like I am not calling for violent revolution against the police.
                .
                Maybe you should show the same consideration for Damon Gutzwiller who was ambushed and killed, during this time of protest and unrest, and not defend Stephen Carillo in any way.

              4. I said Carillo wasn’t a right wing nut job as you claimed. I didn’t defend him. I called you a liar – you are very clearly lying.

                I honestly am not angry with you at all about saying cop killing is a self fulfilling prophesy. I think you are just too stupid to understand exactly what you said.

              5. One of our problems in America is assumption. When did Houston say he defended what Carillo did?
                Assumption can put us on the edge of a dangerous precipice my friend.

              6. “I want more justice, so there are less killings, of everyone.” Seb

                Easy bud, you are closely threading on Grant Napier ground.
                Really, I doubt that this was your motive with this comment. But I’m only using it as an example of how an assumption can never bring about positive change.

              7. Guess what? I always try to tell the truth.
                .
                Here is another truth. A cop just shot and killed another innocent person. Stephen Carillo is a military cop. He is an active duty Sargent at Travis Air Force base. From what I hear, most military cops have conservative leanings. Not too many bleeding heart liberals are military cops. Things are going so crazy, cops are killing cops.
                .
                His white van was filled with guns, ammunition and bombs. That is another tip off that he was not part of the Black Lives Matter Movement. I read that he might have been planning on attacking the power grid, another right wing wacko move.
                .
                So go ahead, declare Stephen Carillo is not a right wing nut job. Defend him all you want. Everything I see points me in that direction. I may be mistaken, but I am not lying about it.
                .
                Next, you will be accusing SC of being an Antifa agitator.
                .
                Houston- ‘ I honestly am not angry with you at all.’ ‘You POS.’ …… Liar.

            2. ‘Stephen Carillo was not some right wing plant trying to make protesters look bad. That’s just insane. Stop making $hit up out of whole cloth. Just absolutely disgusted with you right now.’
              .
              Guess what? A California DA said that Stephen Carillo scrawled Boogaloo slogans in blood on the hood of a nearby car. He is also implicated in another shooting death of a security officer during the George Floyd protests in Oakland.
              .
              You owe me an apology.

            1. Dee,
              I caught that interview this morning on CNN, and turned to my wife and said that this would be a good model for all PD’s. I’d like to see every Governor, Mayor and the chief of police adopt Camden’s policy.

    2. Compare that to zero in Japan and less than a dozen in the U.K.
      I’m just going to quote Kyle Shanahan from his recent interview:
      “It’s very clear and I don’t want to debate it anymore. No one does. Open your eyes.”

    3. Also, on that Poisson distribution note, if you make the parameter gamma in the distribution small (average death per “contact” or encounter) by reducing escalation by police among several other steps, the chances of every incremental death in the hands of police will decrease, too. So you can have your Poisson distribution and reduce police killings, too.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution

      1. I am for justice and I am for reducing police killings, but lets not keep the truth from setting us free.

  8. Kyle is a no-BS guy — my kind of a guy. Here is another quote from his interview:
    “Just as a white person, that bothers me,” Shanahan said during a 30-minute video conference with reporters. “I don’t think all white people realize that. There’s different parts of this country, but a lot of white people, if they don’t see it, they don’t think it’s happening.”

  9. I have persistently advocated for KS to hire an OC. Usually I have suggested Mike laFleur or Mike Daniels to be elevated from the passing game coordinator or the running game coordinator, but now, I think KS should promote Bobby Turner, the RB coach, to OC. Bobby Turner was a college coach for 20 years, and has been an NFL coach for 24 years. He has been an assistant head coach and offensive coordinator. KS could still call plays, but elevating Bobby Turner would help diversity to promote more Black coaches to the coordinator position.

    1. If Kyle is serious, he should make himself the OC and promote Bobby Turner to HC. That would truly make a difference.

  10. “Steve Kerr and Gregg Popovich territory. The two outspoken basketball coaches have made a point to speak up on national issues, including politics.”

    Except when it has to do with China crushing pro-democracy peaceful protests in Hong Kong, right CW. Seems Kerr and Pops social consciousness stops where their paycheck starts. Daryl Morey stands with democracy in Hong Kong and the rest of the NBA obediently sits down after China pulls business ties. Brazen hypocrites.

    1. My brother, let me cast the chip out from your eye, when behold, the plank that is in your own eye is not visible to you?

    2. Except when it has to do with China crushing pro-democracy peaceful protests in Hong Kong, right CW. Seems Kerr and Pops social consciousness stops where their paycheck starts. Daryl Morey stands with democracy in Hong Kong and the rest of the NBA obediently sits down after China pulls business ties. Brazen hypocrites.

      As usual you are talking out of your ass. The NBA came back after the initial response and gave a very different message including Popovich:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/09/gregg-popovich-praises-adam-silver-courage-china-takes-dig-trump/

      1. Did you even read this horse$hit article before you posted it? Poppovich said NOTHING about the protesters in Hong Kong. He said nothing about China’s oppression of minorities or anyone else. He literally took the whole press conference to bash Trump. I mean honestly I have even less respect for Popp now. This response about China is pathetic.

        1. Try to keep your BS straight instead of flying off the handle. You said:

          Except when it has to do with China crushing pro-democracy peaceful protests in Hong Kong, right CW. Seems Kerr and Pops social consciousness stops where their paycheck starts. Daryl Morey stands with democracy in Hong Kong and the rest of the NBA obediently sits down after China pulls business ties. Brazen hypocrites.

          “[Silver] came out strongly for freedom of speech. I felt great again. He’s been a heck of a leader in that respect and very courageous. Then you compare it to what we’ve had to live through the past three years, it’s a big difference. A big gap there, leadership-wise and courage-wise,” Popovich said. “It wasn’t easy for him to say. He said that in an environment fraught with possible economic peril. But he sided with the principles that we all hold dearly, or most of us did until the last three years. I’m thrilled with what he said. The courage and leadership displayed is off the charts by comparison.”

          So to summarize for your lack of common sense, no the NBA didn’t obediently sit down. They came back with a very clear statement about Freedom of speech which Pop alluded to and all parties did so knowing the economic fall out it could create with China. You are the type of guy that likes to point at partial info and base an opinion on it that falls in line with your previous held beliefs. You are the hypocrite and you are disingenuous as well.

  11. ” Seems Kerr and Pops social consciousness stops where their paycheck starts. Daryl Morey stands with democracy in Hong Kong ”

    Umm, Morey deleted tweets and backed off once his owner admonished him. I guess he did not want ***his paychecks interrupted***. Hypocrisy indeed.

    1. Yes Morey backed off to save his job. That’s true. Once he was forced to kneel to communists to protect NBA income then all the other guys who are so happy to let their feelings be known about how horrible America is also STFU about real oppression in China. They are all hypocrites.

      1. Razor says;

        Everyone has the right to an opinion but no one has the right to ride roughshod over someone for having theirs.

  12. Lol. Houston and Razor going on about communists, when their hero has sidled up to the most brazen communist on the planet. Their consciousness stops where their partisanship starts. What’s this about brazen hypocrites?

    1. Ribs,

      Staggering intellectual dishonesty. You know from the many times I’ve said it on this blog before, I’m not a Trump supporter. We obviously disagree on everything politically but I’ve always considered your opinions well reasoned and your disagreement at least honest. Obviously, I was wrong to give you that respect. My point was guys like Kerr & Popp are quick to portray themselves as the champions of the oppressed and using their very large public platform to raise awareness about injustices facing minorities. Yet when a govt like China truly oppresses citizens they go silent because it impacts NBA revenue. That hypocrisy diminishes any point they ever made or will make about social issues in the US. If you have an IQ above 5, which is seriously in doubt at this point, you know that was the obvious point of my post. No one else brought up Trump but you. Your hatred of Trump blinds you to everything else. You are part of an online mob with torches lit and bloody pitchforks at the ready to destroy anyone who disagrees with you. You claim to support Kaepernick’s right to kneel as a free speech issue in one breath and then in the next breath support people who ruin the livelihoods of people who may say something so egregious as “Buildings Matter Too” or “All Lives Matter.” Damn these people to financial ruin because they expressed an opinion you dislike. If a QB with a very long history of supporting minority communities says something so terrible like he will never agree with people disrespecting the flag then his family must receive death threats and he must be made to apologize publicly for such a horrendous opinion. So in the name of fighting oppression, you and your crowd are reining down a storm of tyranny the likes of which haven’t been seen since Cuba in the 50s. I for one will never yield. I will never kneel. I will speak out against petty tyrants like you and this social justice mob looking for their pound of flesh from anyone with an opinion they dislike. I can have that opinion and still also believe there are real structural issues in law enforcement that must be fixed. You on the other hand will only have the “Think Right Mob” you use to terrorize others into submission. For that, and this is from the bottom of my heart, I say to you vete a la mierda.

          1. “You on the other hand will only have the “Think Right Mob” you use to terrorize others into submission.” Houston

            Dee,
            You continue to validate Houston’ statement. You trash others on this site that have a different set of standards as you.
            Let’s see.
            I have been associated with an anarchist and kkk and who knows what else.
            You may need to read the first amendment my friend.

            1. Art, did you know that the first amendment gives me the right to tell the truth about you and your minions? Your leader mainly tells lies, I guess you follow his lead!
              I had no idea that you associated with the KKK, I thought you told me that they didn’t want you…..

            2. Art, it’s amazing that people like you are afraid to ‘think right’ and are using it as an argument to defend their thinking of dominance!

              1. Dee,
                Stop with the superior thinking attitude, it’s that line of thought that has been one of the biggest culprits in dividing our country.
                You’ve resorted to name calling on those here that don’t agree with your views. Then you come on here and blame Trump for dividing the country.
                I’ll be glad to start a GoFundMe account to help you buy more mirrors.

              2. Art, I know you a fervent supporter of a president who lies every single day, but why do you have to stoop so low as well?
                Please show me the posts where I started to call people names.
                I’m flattered that you think it is ME who’s dividing the country!
                I had no idea that I was that popular and known around the country.

              3. “Your leader mainly tells lies, I guess you follow his lead!
                I had no idea that you associated with the KKK, I thought you told me that they didn’t want you…..”

                Well Dee, I never said that I was associated with the KKK. Those were your words in your comments that if I supported Trump, I’m somehow associated with the KKK. At least that seemed to be your suggestion.
                I didn’t go on a verbal rampage (although I found that to be highly offensive). I actually tried to make light your comment by saying that I didn’t know that the KKK accepted Mexican Americans in their group.
                Not sure if you are reading your own comments, but you may want to go back and take a closer look at them.

                And now in your recent posts you doubled down. Very shameful to say least.

                We really don’t know each except for the little excerpts we share on here.
                But if you knew me, you would know that my half brother is an African American and that my wife is part Asian.
                We are actually celebrating our 48th wedding anniversary today, I highly doubt that they would take kindly to your latest assertion of being associated with the kkk.
                That type of tone and attitude wouldn’t work around my family and friends. But hey, as Rib intimated it’s free speech.

              4. Art, I’m beginning to think that you have problems with reading comprehension, unless you are doing it on purpose just like your leader, Twitler.

                Well Dee, I never said that I was associated with the KKK. Those were your words in your comments that if I supported Trump, I’m somehow associated with the KKK

                .
                PROVE IT !

                And now in your recent posts you doubled down.

                PROVE IT!
                You are gaslighting again by picking out one word and then making up your own sentence!

                my half brother is an African American and that my wife is part Asian.

                If science is correct then we are all part Asian and part African American…..

              5. One your more thing if your family is really part African American/Asian/Latino, how come you’re not offended by the posts by Prime and Razor???

              6. “ One your more thing if your family is really part African American/Asian/Latino, how come you’re not offended by the posts by Prime and Razor???

                Pardon me cry baby? Always whining about something like a little bioch!

              7. Prime, it’s fans like Dee Dee that gave us the nickname of forty whiners by our adversaries!

              8. Can’t believe no one has seen the obvious posts that without a doubt, show Seb and Dee to be the same person.
                For years Seb/Dee have played the blog with their catfish accounts, played victim, played adversary and now plain as day, fckin idiot!

              9. Dee,
                “It’s amazing that people like you.”

                Try to dismiss this all you want, but that comment is tantamount to superior thinking over someone else.
                Have a great time proving your superiority over “people like me” maybe comments like this will help close the divide, right?
                Sheesh.

              10. “One your more thing if your family is really part African American/Asian/Latino, how come you’re not offended by the posts by Prime and Razor???”

                Because like you, they reserve the right to voice their opinion, even if I may not be in agreement.
                I have yet to see them put me in the context of the kkk.
                But you go ahead and continue with your crusade to bring our country back together.

              11. You’ve resorted to name calling on those here that don’t agree with your views. Then you come on here and blame Trump for dividing the country.

                Has General Mattis seen this blog? Why, it would turn his mind around! It’s not Trump dividing the country, it’s a bunch of squabbling sports fans.

              12. WOW Art, just WOW.
                This all you can come up with???
                One out of context lifted snippet?
                And you consider that NAME CALLING???
                YOU are out of touch with reality, amigo!
                ‘People like you’ in this case means people who support a lying, thieving conman and pretend that that is honorable.
                You are gaslighting and making up things, just like you said that I associated you with the 3K.
                Still waiting for proof of that ….

            3. You may need to read the first amendment my friend.

              Unless you think PD and this board is part of the government, you may need to read the first amendment, friend.

              1. Rib,
                Here’s a small list of highlights that I’ve commented on over the past two weeks.
                1. Trump did not start racism – its been inherent in our history for centuries.
                2. Enacting new legislation doesn’t cure the racism and hate issue of the heart. It begins with ourselves.
                3. No president is perfect. History records that race riots have been an evil part of the American landscape that have covered many administrations.
                Btw, in my comments and responses to you and Dee, I have (hopefully) shown you both respect by not calling you both names and labeling you with any negative movement(s).

                So why is there a problem when others don’t agree with your views?

              2. Alternatively, what is the problem when posting a viewpoint that doesn’t agree with someone else’s? Isn’t that what we are both doing?

                BTW, 1st amendment has squat all to do with us here.

              3. Btw, in my comments and responses to you and Dee, I have (hopefully) shown you both respect by not calling you both names and labeling you with any negative movement(s).

                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
                That’s funny!
                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
                just for you
                JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

              4. Art, you have accused me of calling you and others names, yet you can’t produce a single post where I did such. You’re riding your high horse accusing me of dividing the country, yet I have to see you post ONE post condemning PT or Razor for their foul language!
                You support a conman who has ripped off and bankrupted many people and is now doing the same to the country.
                WAKE UP!

      1. It’s hilarious to read such sanctimonious BS from a hot head who lashes out with name calling and questioning IQ’s of anyone who disagrees with him.

        I also found the irony in your post quite amazing as well. Calling a guy with an opinion different from yours on a blog a “Tyrant” which describes Trump to a tee.

        ty·rant
        /ˈtīrənt/

        1. a cruel and oppressive ruler.

        Great job making the point for those you are railing against.

      2. @houston = u mad bro!

        best you stick with truth – .

        It’s just a typical right wing tactic to deflect from an uncomfortable truth by bringing up something else. That’s why issues like this never get dealt with. It’s easier to just point out another problem and compare while doing nothing to address either of them.

      3. @Houston

        “Buildings Matter Too” or “All Lives Matter.”

        lol…That is the point – Nobody is falling for that anymore – We know what you mean when you say that.

        We know you don’t care about ALL LIVES, because if you did you would care African Americans died at the hands of police at a rate of 7.2 per million, while whites were killed at a rate of 2.9 per million (2015 study).

        The only reason those words are in your head is because you are Tone Deaf.

        From the protesters:
        We said – Black Lives Matter
        Never said – Only Black Lives Matter
        We know – All Lives Matter

        saying #AllLivesMatter is like running through a cancer fundraiser & saying “THERE’S OTHER DISEASES TOO”

        “Black Lives Matter doesn’t mean your life isn’t important – it means that Black lives, which are seen as without value within White supremacy, are important to your liberation. Given the disproportionate impact state violence has on Black lives, we understand that when Black people in this country get free, the benefits will be wide-reaching and transformative for society as a whole. When we are able to end the hyper-criminalization and sexualization of Black people and end the poverty, control and surveillance of Black people, every single person in this world has a better shot at getting and staying free. When Black people get free, everybody gets free.”

        1. Not surprising that you don’t understand the point. I made no value judgment whatsoever about whether All Lives Matter or Buildings Matter Too is a wise or just thing to say. People are losing jobs they’ve had for decades because you think they are “tone deaf.” You don’t like that they used a phrase that you interpret as not being down with the cause of Black Lives Matter. You peer into their hearts and determine these people hold beliefs you find abhorrent because they dared to say 3 words out loud you don’t like. They should lose their job. They should lose their paycheck. They should lose their ability to pay their mortgage. They should lose their ability to put food on the table for their children. They should lose the ability to pay their kids college tuition. They should lose everything because they are not sufficiently educated on the words you deem appropriate. They should lose everything because free speech only applies to speech you agree with. Am I mad? Hell yeah I’m mad. Guess what, there are tens of millions of people that feel just like me. Americans used to say, I don’t like what you said but I’ll defend your right to say it. Now the brown shirt losers like you say, I don’t like what you said so now I’m going to try to ruin your life for it. Vete a la mierda.

          1. They should lose their job. They should lose their paycheck. They should lose their ability to pay their mortgage. They should lose their ability to put food on the table for their children.

            Now Houston, unless you’ve also posted things that indicate your opposition to the free-market, are you now making the case that private entities shouldn’t be able to hire and fire for any reason they deem fit? Are you one of those union agitators? If you don’t see eye to eye with those reasons, use your prerogative as a free consumer and don’t partake of their goods and services. Or how about organizing a boycott instead of whining here.

            They should lose everything because free speech only applies to speech you agree with.

            Maybe we can get JPN to come in here with a explanation on how “free” speech is protected in the private sphere. I’m betting that will be a very short explanation.

            1. No one is discussing At Will employment laws you spineless coward. We are discussing the very real rage mob going after the jobs of people they disagree with. We are discussing the vile strategies of the left to silence free speech by terrorizing people into fearing for their jobs..

              1. There is no such thing as “free speech” in private enterprise. The man was fired by his employer. End of story.

              2. Now if they had fired him because Trump (as a gov’t entity) had threatened “get that SOB off the air” (now where have we heard similar?) you might have a leg to stand on. And BTW, did I hear you this upset back when Trump issued that not so veiled threat towards NFL players? It must have been in one of your disagreeing with Trump postings that I missed.

            2. “Maybe we can get JPN to come in here with a explanation on how “free” speech is protected in the private sphere. I’m betting that will be a very short explanation.”

              Oh, no truly comprehensive discussion about free expression is ever short. ;-)

              A short discussion can be had regarding First Amendment protections against non-governmental actions to quell speech. To wit, we have none. There are some federal and state laws other than the First Amendment that protect certain exercises of expression in limited situations, including some labor situations. But independent contractors, such as media personalities or athletes, by and large exist outside any such protections.

              However, the larger point is one of societal pressure bringing about lawful dismissal of a contractor for engaging in certain voluntary expression or abstaining from certain compelled expression. The problem here is the problem of the ‘one’ and the ‘many’. This is a problem that is inherent in human societies — the tension between individual liberties and collective needs. We have individual liberties, but our exercise thereof is not free from societal pressures, ranging from individual disagreement to societal sanctions. From my point of view, that is just part of the social contract. And if a person’s message is important enough, he or she will fight against societal pressure despite the repercussions. To do otherwise, such as to fall back on “everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion” (a fatuous sentiment that is true in its broadest sense but meaningless as a practical matter), is to engage in egoism, not individualism.

              The above is why I perceive no difference between (a.) an athlete losing his/her job for refusing to participate in compelled expression in a manner that upsets the mob, and (b.) a media personality losing his/her job for engaging in voluntary expression that upsets the mob. Sure, the ‘mob’ may have different compositions in these two examples, but the principle is the same. If you decry one, you should decry the other. And if you support one, you should support the other. For they are the same at their core — a societal sanction against freedom of expression, whether that freedom be exercised by abstention from a given expression or engagement in a given expression.

              1. If you decry one, you should decry the other. And if you support one, you should support the other.

                Thanks JPN.
                This might go over the head of some Killdozers…

        2. like running through a cancer fundraiser & saying “THERE’S OTHER DISEASES TOO”

          Well, there is a poster here that runs through a cononavirus pandemic and says “what about the deaths from drunk driving?”

      4. You know from the many times I’ve said it on this blog before, I’m not a Trump supporter.

        Golly, I must have missed those. And I must have missed all those postings of yours that indicated opposition to his policies, such as…well… and like….and er, ah….yup, missed them. Missed them all. Maybe you dislike his style, the one that prevents him from implementing the worst of his notions.

        You on the other hand will only have the “Think Right Mob” you use to terrorize others into submission.

        I certainly terrorized you in to submission, didn’t I? Only a near 500 word response. Somehow I think you and the magas will survive the lit torches and bloody pitchforks brought to bear by me and my online mob.

        Your hatred of Trump blinds you to everything else.

        Everything else? When it comes to politics in America right now, there really isn’t much more, is there. Pandemic? Trump blows it off. Social unrest? Trumps pours gasoline on the fire. Economy? Trump hasn’t a clue. America is damn lucky to have such an incompetent would-be autocrat.

    1. Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Jags, Dolphins, Broncos, Bears and Chargers.
      .
      Brees and Cousins would be hard to supplant.

  13. @houston and Razor – why are your views, opinions, thinking always align with white supremacy groups?

    I am just curious to know if you even think about that…..

    1. I’m glad that our President is finally calling out those antifa agitators.
      They trip themselves to get free drugs to sustain their habit!

  14. Column: Biden’s response to the George Floyd protests isn’t presidential. He should be tweeting more insults!

    By Rex Huppke
    Chicago Tribune |
    Jun 09, 2020 | 10:51 AM

    As an astute observer of present-day presidential politics, I’m baffled by the way presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is behaving.

    The most immediate example, of course, is that he spent time Monday traveling to Texas to meet in person with the family of George Floyd. He was the black man killed by a white Minneapolis police officer, setting off nationwide protests over police brutality and racism.

    What kind of modern-day leader shows empathy during a time of national crisis? If Biden had an ounce of presidential timber he would have been in a secure location, surrounded by armed guards and newly erected fencing, tweeting about his own “GREATNESS” and calling his political opponents “Crazy!”

    Even worse, Biden has yet to tweet the words “LAW & ORDER” accompanied by no specific context or policy proposals. Donald Trump, our current president and the model for cutting-edge presidential behavior, has tweeted those words a dozen times in the past week. That, former Vice President Biden, is a thing we Americans have come to recognize as “leadership.” Maybe try it some time.

    Indeed, while Biden spent time meeting privately Monday with Floyd’s family before the 46-year-old man’s funeral in Texas, he failed to label Americans exercising their right to protest as “thugs” or “terrorists.” He didn’t attempt to paint people appalled by systemic racism as part of a shadowy group known as antifa, which isn’t actually an organized group but sounds scary and is probably coming to destroy your family farm or rage-stomp your begonias.

    Did the former vice president do anything to quell protests against the militarization of police, like suggest sending the military to police cities across the country? No.

    Did Biden have peaceful protesters tear-gassed so he could walk across a street to a church he doesn’t attend and hold aloft a Bible he doesn’t read while people took pictures nobody wanted to see? No.

    There’s no way Sleepy Joe would have the moral fortitude to pull off such statesmanship. In times like these, we need a leader unafraid to forcibly disperse Americans; appear uninvited outside a church whose bishop would later condemn him; and then have the White House press secretary equate his short, ignominious walk to Winston Churchill inspecting bomb-ravaged London during World War II.

    Did Joe Biden voice support for the family of George Floyd and also share a video on his Twitter account featuring a conservative commentator saying “Floyd was not a good person”? No, he didn’t. Only Trump did that.

    Did one of Biden’s senior campaign advisers share a tweet praising a man in Texas who yelled a racial slur while threatening protesters with a chain saw? No.

    Did Biden spend last week, arguably one of the most tumultuous and explosive weeks in recent American history, sending more than 460 tweets, including 200 in one day and, at one point, 74 in an hour? No, he didn’t.

    And did the tweets he sent lash out at people in his own party — in Trump’s case, Sens. Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney — or widely respected military figures like former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (“the world’s most overrated General”)?

    No, Biden’s tweets were few in number and consisted of totally nonpresidential stuff like this: “We need to stand up as a nation — with the Black community and with all minority communities — and come together as one America. Because the pain is too immense for one community to bear alone.”

    And this: “I promised George Floyd’s family that he wouldn’t just become another hashtag — and I intend to keep that promise.”

    And this: “American history isn’t a fairytale with a guaranteed happy ending. But we have the power to write the future we want for this nation. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.”

    Yeesh. That’s some low-ratings material. If President Trump has taught us anything, it’s that true presidential behavior requires unbridled rage, schoolyard insults, a laserlike focus on one’s ego and a complete inability to inspire.

    Even after Biden showed promise by saying something stupid and offensive — suggesting that if a black person votes for Trump, “you ain’t black” — the former vice president demonstrated enormous weakness by apologizing for the comment within hours, saying on a campaign call with black business leaders that he was “much too cavalier.”

    Again, the Trump model is clear: Never apologize, never admit to doing or saying anything wrong, claim you never said something even if there’s a recording of it, blame someone else for saying something similar and then say something worse to change the subject.

    Do you think Biden would have the guts, in the wake of George Floyd’s murder, to talk about a positive jobs report and suggest Floyd is happily looking down from heaven, and then say, as Trump did: “This is a great day for him, it’s a great day for everybody.”

    No way.

    Heck, with Biden, Americans might go weeks without even thinking about who’s president.

    Wouldn’t that be awful?

    1. Are you serious with that post? Stick to football hypocrite!

      Where is the moderator to this blog!!!!!!!

      Hey Press Democrat, wake the Fck up!

        1. You and the rest of these clowns crying American politics sound like a bunch of mentally challenged morons.
          You must be the leader!

    2. “This is a great day for him, it’s a great day for everybody.” Trump

      Would you be willing to ask all those people that went back to work if it’s a great day for them? So much for CNN’s comments a few weeks ago that said we might be witnessing the “Collapse of America.”
      I know that CNN is the daily bible for many people, but they are also the biggest peddlers of sensationalism and bending public opinion.
      I’ve tried to watch them on occasion, but they can no longer hide their agenda of blatant hatred of Trump.
      “Fair and Balanced?” Ha! Now that’s funny.

      1. their agenda of blatant hatred of Trump.

        Tell us why we shouldn’t hate a guy that thinks so little of his “base” that he forces his rally attendees to sign away their lives?

        By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury

        Or should we feel sorry for the brainwashed masses that would voluntarily sign something like that just so DJT can bask in their adoring cheers?

        AES, tell me, as an imperfect human, what should my reaction be? Stand by the president?

    3. Biden is an opportunist that is desperately seeking the Oval Office.
      Imo, he still needs to come completely clean on Ukraine and what he and Obama knew about the FBI following orders by FISA court to spy on Trump’ former foreign adviser Carter Page.
      I will say this, if Biden wins in November, get ready for more impeachment showdowns in 2021.

  15. Here’s a digression to football.

    The N.F.L. has outlined the steps teams must take before players can return to training facilities, the latest attempt by the league to return to business as usual in an off-season that has largely been conducted virtually.

    To prepare for training camps, the league said in the memo, teams must appoint an employee to oversee the return to work, which includes educating all employees on ways to reduce the risk of transmitting the coronavirus. The health protocols address access to team facilities; physical distancing inside locker rooms, weight rooms and other places; food and medical services; and cleaning. The memo also outlined procedures for screening employees for symptoms and instructions on what to do when a player or other employee tests positive for the virus.

    The lengthy memo was sent to team executives, general mangers, head coaches and trainers on Sunday.

    But it looks like the league overlooks a little something. The players maybe?

    the N.F.L. Players Association, the union’s president, J.C. Tretter, told players on Twitter on Monday to “be wary of any updates or information about returning to work from the league or your team.” He invited players to contact him for “accurate updates as we push for the safest possible return to work.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/sports/football/coronavirus-nfl-union.html

    Tretter’s a tweeter:

    Players: our union has not agreed to any reopening plan. Any reports about coming back to work are hypothetical. You will hear from the NFLPA when there are new developments.

    If only Napear had such a union at his back.

    1. Almost like the league was assuming that football players will do what they’re told. Wonder why they’d think that.

  16. NFL network is reporting that Kittle is going to get close to 20 mill a year. How are they going to pay for it and have the cap space to sign their other FA’s? Cuts lots of cuts. Tevin Coleman, C.J. Beathard, Dante Pettis and Weston Richburg. Those cuts will save over 20 mill this year giving the 9ers the room to sign Kittle and keep control over their cap situation going foreward. Is there anyone on this list you wouldn’t cut to keep Kittle and create room for future signings?

    1. Well I guess it has finally happened. This site has become a political site only. I made a football post 16 hours ago and it hasn’t received a single comment and as far as I can see there hasn’t been any other football only posts during that time. I guess we can finally call this blog as a 49er blog dead. I took the time to contact the PD after Grant left to see if there was a way to save the blog. I now wish I hadn’t. PD let this blog die a natural death.

      1. Coach, I posted a comment on the leagues memo to gin up operations. I got one comment there.

        CWN’s thread was political in nature to begin with, so It’s not surprising the responses have followed in suit. Maybe when there’s actual football to actually talk about we’ll get there. BTW, nearly all of ESPN’s top stories are of a political nature as well. It’s where we are at as country right now.

        1. Rib,
          I understand I was actually the 2nd poster to respond to CW’s post but I responded to CW’s post My problem with this site is the name calling that has nothing to do with sport or politics. The level of hatred that has no place in a serious exchange of ideas. Take a look at HtWaits posts, many of them are politically based but contain no name calling or hate. If all of those here who post political posts were like him I wouldn’t have a problem. On top of that it almost seems like football posts are being ignored, there is no balance, that is why I said I think this site as a place for 49er fans to come and chat is dead.

          1. Trying to reply to you but keep getting blocked by the PD Spam filter. Although Kittle is one of my favorite players, I think paying him 20 million is absurd. That is approaching QB money which is also absurd. I don’t see how the average fan can afford to attend the games anymore. I had season 49er tickets for a number of years but got priced out of attending.

            1. Nobody,
              Players salaries have little to do with ticket prices. The TV contract alone guarantees the owners huge profits before selling a single ticket. They sell their tickets at what the market will bear.Seat licenses and ticket prices either pay for stadiums or just add to the owners profits. Players salaries affect the salary cap and that affects our favorite teams ability to compete on the field.

    2. There’s no way Kittle is getting anywhere near 20 million a year. The FT for TE’s next year will be between 10 and 11 million. They will make him the highest paid TE, but the contract numbers being throw around are insane and not realistic. My guess is he will either sign for an average of 13-14 million per year, anything over that and the Niners are screwing themselves big time.

      1. Yep. If he wants to play hardball they have all the leverage. Franchise tag countered by holdout countered by trade for two 1st round picks….

        1. Razor,
          He then can hold out unlike a RB holding out he has many years left in his career and I can tell you this a Kittle less 49ers go from being the favorite in the NFC to get back to the SB to a wildcard entry into the playoffs, imho

          1. He then can hold out unlike a RB holding out he has many years left in his career

            Dunno about that, OldCoach. He’s reckless with his body and it’s already in need of repair.

            Sure they would miss him but they’ve proven they can win missing key components. As long as the 49ers have Shanny they should be the NFC favorites….

            1. Razor,
              You are correct he does play balls out and could have a career shorter than some TE’s but he plays alot like Gronk and it hasn’t shortened his career. Not counting last year but he did wrestle during his yr off. I think the 9ers will surprise everyone and give him a big contract. I believe they will pay for him and next years FA’s by making the following cuts before camp. Beathard , Coleman, Pettis and Richburg none of which will weaken the team very much and save them over 20 mill in cap room this year alone. imho

              1. The earliest they could get out from under Richburg’s restructure would be 2021 without incurring an exorbitant dead cap hit of over $12 million. The pivot is a priority position in Shanny’s offense, and you have to be very intelligent.

                Coleman is a trusted agent and I just don’t see them cutting him.

                I think Pettis gets another year.

                Beathard I could see getting moved.

                All this is to say is that the 49ers have shown that they value a good group of players over one elite player, if that elite player is asking for an amount that the team simply cannot agree to without handcuffing the franchise into the future….

              2. Razor,
                Bleacher report said they would save 12 mill by cutting Richburg I guess thats what I get for trusting Bleacher Report and if McKinnon is healthy it moves Coleman to #3 and they are paying him way too much to be #3.

              3. Sorry, Old Coach, but cutting CJB, Coleman and Pettis will save only 4.2 mil. Cutting Richberg with his 12 mil dead cap, will cost negative 8 mil. This salary cap is not static, and some estimate the Niners have only 7 mil, while Over the Cap has them at 15.6 million.
                .
                Players who may be cut candidates due to their salary, are players like Kendrick Bourne- 3.26 mil, Tom Compton- 1.95 mil, Witherspoon- 2.13 mil and Nzeocha- 1.5 mil. Add Tevin Coleman and his 2.87 mil cap savings, and the Niners could possibly create 11.7 mil in cap space with those 5 players. Maybe the best solution would be to trade away those players to a team in dire need after one of their players gets injured. Then they will be getting something for them, instead of cutting them, and getting nothing. However, those players may also win a spot on the roster, so that is another possibility, but it will not help add cap space.
                .
                Basically, cutting down from 90 to 53 will also create at least 20 mil in cap room. The Niners should wait until after the 53 cuts, then extend Kittle.

              4. If the 49ers give Kittle anywhere near top WR money then they won’t be doing their jobs and the team will suffer for it. Couple of reasons for this, first and foremost the cap damage a contract way over market value causes and secondly, it sets a precedent that the 49ers will overpay in a contract negotiation. What do you think happens with guys like Warner and Bosa once they see the Niners pay Kittle almost double the franchise tag? It’s not going to happen. The numbers being thrown around are coming from pro player sympathizers that aren’t looking at it from a business perspective.

      2. FL,
        I agree. They’ll meet in the middle.
        $13-14mil sounds about right. I believe that 15mil may get a strong push as well.

        1. Do you think any athlete is really worth 20m per year? I am a free market advocate but I really thing athletes salaries have gotten out of hand. YOMV

          How are some of you able to post all day? I posted once and the next time is says I am a spammer.

          1. athletes salaries

            Lets not forget, athletes are not only employees, but product as well. Without their product, the owners would have nothing.

          2. Athletes are worth every penny. They are the ones who are sacrificing their bodies to help owners get rich.
            .
            If Kittle wants to pull a Buckner, and sign elsewhere for the big bucks, I wish him Godspeed. I just hope the Niners get a good draft pick for him, like Buckner for the 13th pick.
            .
            I never thought they would trade away their MVP, but this is a business. They got good value and kept the salary cap under control. The Niners had Kinlaw fall into their laps, so they got an adequate replacement for Buckner, and I think the Niners just reloaded for another SB run.
            .
            The Spam Hammer is on a timer, I think. I will try to post something right after posting on another comment, and the Spam Hammer will pop up. I will leave that comment, put the computer to sleep, and go do something else for a while. I will come back, some others have posted since my last post, and I will try to post the thing that was Spam Hammered. Then it will go through.

    3. NFL network is reporting that Kittle is going to get close to 20 mill a year.

      Coach, just how reliable, or agenda driven, are the sources making that claim? I certainly don’t believe the NFL network is above making sensationalist assertions for the sake of sensation.

  17. I encourage everybody to vote in November. Do it through mail if you have to or are worried about Covid. One of the reasons the polls got it wrong last time is because of closeted Trump supporters that were ashamed to admit that they would vote for a bigoted misogynist. As you can see by reading this thread, Trump still has openly proud supporters too.

    Imagine supporting Trump in 2020, inexcusable. Racist dog whistles are being thrown around in all forms of media. Thankfully people are waking up to the trash tactics that the right employs. People are also waking up to the fact that professional agitators are the ones that are looting/rioting to demonize the peaceful protests.

    But back on point, Biden needs our supports because Trump supporters are motivated too, motivated by hate and fueled by ignorance. Trump supporters will get out to vote. We have to defeat Trump.

    Vote
    Encourage friends and family to vote.
    Help people get registered.
    Get Trump out of office.

  18. I will cast my vote for Trump over Biden. Trump’s criminal justice reform of a Bill Clinton/Joe Biden 1994 crime law that disproportionately incarcerated blacks was a perfect example of how to make America greater!

  19. Let’s see if Goodell has the horse sense to designate a time for kneeling prior to the national anthem. That would prevent division among the fans, and bring about unity. It would also expose any scoffers for their protest priorities….

  20. Any black lives matters support defunding planned parenthood or don’t those black lives matter? What about the 18 murdered in Chicago in the past 36 hours? How about that black police officer that was murdered? Those black lives don’t support their narrative, and that’s because they believe America is an incurable racist nation that needs to be destroyed.

    1. Hey Dory, why don’t you have the gills to put your own name behind your garbage. Wouldn’t you like the recognition that goes with all that time and effort you’ve spent in trying to impersonate me?

      1. I can’t believe that this antifa terrorist is now attacking my posts and calling me Dory.
        Get a life or meet up!

        1. If you think that was an attack you obviously haven’t been studying me well enough. You must do better.

  21. Decades of systemic bias in cities run by the democratic party and they’re led by an uninspiring 40 year politician. So they collude with the media to portray Trump as the villain and keep Biden in the basement away from scrutiny….

    1. I don’t know if this is the “real” Razor or not, but if it is what a hilarious preview for the next 5 months and the 4 to 8 years after that. Imagine that. Basement man kicking his DJT’s @ss.

      1. Of course it’s the real me. You can’t tell? I agree if Trump were to lose to Biden it would be the worst ever. He could never live it down. Biden is the worst candidate in my lifetime, and it’s not even close….

    1. let’s not go off on a “keep politics out of sports” tangent. Politics have always been part of sports.

      —C. W. Nevious

      1. not talking about politics in sports but the posting of personal beliefs and the name calling and abuse of those who dont agree. both sides do it

  22. I hate to be off subject but congrats to a local Sonoma county kid Spencer Torkelson for being the #1 MLB draft pick.

    1. Yay for Sonoma County! It’s not impossible he may end up being the most famous local product of his generation. Good luck to him!

  23. We’re way past socialism. Stalin-ism is where we are right now. If you voice your disagreement they will destroy you. You have a professor in MI endorsing looting. You have Paramount taking the show COPS off the air. You have a professor in Chicago sacked for coming out against looting. That’s just in the past 48 hours. Imagine what it would be like if these extremists get in power. If you don’t think the “right” way you have to be removed. That’s the choice we have before us, and it’s an easy one for me. What about you?

    1. (Wait until Razor finds out HBO Max pulled “Gone With The Wind”)

      Razor, you are voicing your voice. Are you destroyed yet?

      1. The intolerance of disagreement is where we are whether you subscribe to HBO or not, and whether you like it or not….

    2. Imagine what it would be like if these extremists get in power.

      We already know what it’s like. Who cares about some professor that nobody’s ever heard of or some stupid TV show that nobody watches. We have a president – A PRESIDENT! – who accuses, without a shred of evidence, that a media personality and former congressman is complicit in a murder and demands an investigation. We have a president – A PRESIDENT! – who claims that a 75 year old protester faked his injuries, and without a shred of evidence, accuses him of interfering in police business. Then his pressSec doubles down the same scurrilous accusations. Are you this concerned about the hits these innocents are taking to their reputations, to their potential livelihoods? From the PRESIDENT of the USA??? The biggest megaphone on the planet? Of course not, your outrage is, as always, filtered through the lens of your partisanship. So spare us your hypocritical noise.

      1. The latest addition to the best of Trump: threatening legal action against CNN because he didn’t like the results of a poll. It’s amazing that Trumpists can’t see he’s a wanna be dictator who controls the narrative on everything he and his administration are involved in.

    3. ‘If you do not think the’ right’ way you have to be removed.’
      .
      Oh, like the head of the FBI, CIA , Chief of Staff, Attorney Genera, Defense Department, Homeland Security, Inspector Generals and any others who do not toady to the POTUS?

  24. What is a country’s government if it consists of one party?

    What political party is totally free of stupid ideas?

    The fittest chickens survive and eat the dead chickens. What form of government would that be?

    1. Yep, very little incentive to even follow what’s being discussed on this blog atm let alone comment.

      Hopefully Hurd stays healthy and is a big factor this season.

        1. Good mate. We’re riding the COVID train as well as could be hoped and starting to reopen the economy. We’ve had some protests around BLM (we have our own issues in this space) but no rioting or looting and very few arrests/ incidents.

    2. George, this site is what we make it. Just keep posting Niner stuff, and linking articles. I tried to disagree with Grant about something, and posters did not want to have his name even mentioned.
      .
      These current events show how sports are important, but not critical for society to function. This pandemic is a wake up call, because the next one may mutate into a deadlier killer strain, that affects even the young people.
      .
      The politics are affecting our lives in ways we never imagined before, and the tragic death of George Floyd put police brutality front and center, with Kaep being vindicated. Now, will there be a profile in courage, and will some team give Kaep a tryout.
      .
      KS himself stated that the problem has been ignored for far too long, and sticking to football is part of the problem.
      .
      Please go ahead and begin the discussion. If you, Scooter and Old Coach lead, others will follow.

      1. I tried to disagree with Grant about something, and posters did not want to have his name even mentioned.

        That guy (no I’m not going to mention his name) didn’t even have the decency to bid this blog goodbye. Why shouldn’t he be persona non grata to us, when we are the same to him?

    3. “Thanks, Nevious. It’s on you.”

      Hahahaha….hahahaha….haha

      You guys crack me up.

      #BlackLivesMatter
      #Trumpisracist
      #Covid-19
      #TrumpLiedPeopleDied
      #8:46

  25. I hope you guys realise what your asking for.
    Here in my country they laugh with the police,they can riot and attacking shops and they are protected by mayor’s.
    Or if they try to arrest someone in certain neighborhoods the police get attacked by at least 30 persons.
    If you are a good looking woman you can’t walk in certain city’s without getting harassed.

              1. No, I don’t think he will. Trump, in his mind, is infallible. The best president of all time doesn’t need to wag the dog to cruise to the greatest re-election in history.

                His campaign, however, will put pressure on news outlets to disavow their polling that show his @ss getting kicked.

                https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/10/politics/trump-campaign-cnn-poll/index.html

                ^^^ AES, if you are still confused about what constitutes 1st Amendment violations, this is getting pretty darned close.

        1. Like the person who shot and killed Retired Police Captain David Dorn. Who was black.
          That particular murder could be debated on many levels.
          Yup, weakness is killing unarmed non-threatening people!
          Nice spin.

      1. True Razor.
        We are more discriminated here in Belgium than our people from foreign origin, almost 80% from social care housing goes to them.
        Schools are almost forced to give halal food.
        We almost have to adept to them and that’s crazy cuz if you get all opportunitys from a country where you moved to there you should ADAPT to the countries culture and tradition.

        1. That’s the problem and tricky aspect of dealing with racism or any kind of discrimination really. It’s easy to go too far, and in the end the measures often put in place to combat discrimination are themselves discriminatory by either nature or practice, and also often serve to reinforce or highlight that a profiled collective group is different through disadvantage.

          1. Scooter, what do see more damaging – Overreaction or no reaction? Because the latter is what we’ve had up to now.

  26. Should we ban the democratic party? After all they were against freeing the slaves. Better blot out Senator Byrd’s record. All these statue removals in an attempt to get rid of our history is another slope that could get very slippery….

    1. What I want to know is: Why do Americans choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

      1. If some of those 50 running for president were attractive women, do you think Trump would barge into their dressing rooms unannounced? After all, as President he has claimed he can do whatever he wants.

        1. My comment is a fairly well known Paraprosdokian sentence which are statements meant to be spoken in jest. Apparently you missed the humor. Your reply reminded me of another example which was often used by comedian Steven Wright: “A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. “

          1. Apparently you missed the humor.

            No, humor came through load and clear. And my response was more in the vein of black humor (don’t worry Razor, we are still allowed to say “black humor”). Was that missed perhaps?

        2. With respect to the entire subject of debating politics in this type of forum there is another Paraprosdokian statement that keeps me from entering into the discussion: “Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”

          1. Consider this, whine. In our hyper-partisan divided society, nearly everybody exists in a bubble of intake and views comporting to their own (how else to explain the assured-ness from Razor that Trump is going to win a resounding re-election victory?) A site like this might be the only place of exposure to argued viewpoints contrary to our own. As humans, no one likes their worldview called into question and the natural response is to lash out at those calling that worldview into question. This phenomenon is not limited to politics but even to the subject matter of this board, sports. So that “idiot” you claim not worthy of argument, is merely someone that holds a different opinion than you do. Conversely, you are an idiot to him. Taking your admonition to it’s logical conclusion , there would be no discussion at all.

            So tell me. Did I miss the humor again?

            1. “As humans, no one likes their worldview called into question and the natural response is to lash out at those calling that worldview into question.”

              Can you please explain my worldview, that doesn’t seem to align with your perfect one?
              I’m starting to believe that an old fossil like me would not be able to fit in your perfect world.

              1. A world view that doesn’t give would-be authoritarian tyrants a pass because I’m “without sin and shouldn’t cast the first stone.” At the same time casting plenty of stones because, idealogically, the target differs from me. How’s that for starters?

            2. Rib – This comment is not directed to you but is just a general statement of what I think of the whole of this back and forth, which is typical of almost everything we are seeing now on politics: “The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, and the intelligent are full of doubt. (Bertrand Russell said this). For some reason now too many people see things as different from the past. There is absolutely no shortage of people who “know” what’s wrong, but there is a critical shortage of people who have any idea how to fix it. Much of what you say is hard to argue with but it troubles me to think that you really believe that the answer to Trump is Joe Biden. For the record, I never said, nor do I think you are an idiot. The way to describe it is with another OLD saying: Those who will can’t and those that can won’t. When we stop talking past each other the hope is that we will be able to find those that can who WILL.

              1. but it troubles me to think that you really believe that the answer to Trump is Joe Biden.

                wc, anybody who’s not a walking DSM-5 manual is the answer to Trump.

      1. Did Hillary ever atone for her 30k white washed emails? I guess we’ll never know what she was hiding. Also, although she apologized the following day, I often wonder what was her motive in calling African American youth “Super-Predators.”
        Has the Democratic party ever apologize for their past history of blatant racism?
        Take off the blinders.

        1. Casting some stones there I see, AES? New Testament for Trump, Old Testament for Clinton? Figures.

          Has the Democratic party ever apologize for their past history of blatant racism?

          Umm yeah. Actions speak louder than words. LBJ knew the party would be up s creek for a generation or more for it’s fight for 60s civil rights. He was right, all the dem racists / Dixiecrats migrated to the Republican Party where they remain to this day.

          Say, whatever happened to that guy teargassed on Telegraph Ave? He seemed like he knew what side of history he should be on. And now?

          1. “He was right, all the dem racists / Dixiecrats migrated to the Republican Party where they remain to this day.”

            Was that the case in 1898?
            Not, casting stones. Just pointing out some historical information that today’s news media seems intent on hidding given our current events.
            All of Aamerica should know what happened in 1898, and 1921. This would be a good time for major news outlets to present some ugly truths.

            Well, I protested against our young men dying in a needless war. What changed me? That fact that after our young men came back, they were spit on and called baby killers, as if they were responsible for starting the war. Interesting isn’t it, many of the same people that protested for their return, were now spitting on them when they came home.

            What changed me? Well, as a long time Democrate, I was intensely upset that my President Bill Clinton desecrated the highest and most honored office in America to satisfy his own selfish desires. Btw, his excuse that he did this to releive the anxieties and pressure of being president was an absolute cop out.
            Did I forgive him? Yes, after he came clean. Is this part of the American historical landscape?
            You bet. Just like Wilmington and Tulsa.

            1. I was intensely upset that my President Bill Clinton desecrated the highest and most honored office in America to satisfy his own selfish desires.

              Threw a lot of stones in that glass house of yours, didn’t you? And now excuse the current President whose own military men are saying is desecrating The Constitution. You rock, man.

            2. I was intensely upset that my President Bill Clinton desecrated the highest and most honored office in America to satisfy his own selfish desires.

              YOU owe me a beer! I took a swig when I was reading this hypocrisy, and the suds came out of my nose when I choked on it from LOL!
              To hear a Scumpman utter this nonsense is the nadir of nothing!

              1. Dee,
                Your hatred of Trump can blind you to BC’ philandering in the highest and most privileged office in the world.
                I would expect that an elected president could show more respect to his office.
                But I’m sure you can spin a good excuse for that too.
                Maybe you can top Clinton’s excuse that he needed to relieve the anxiety and pressure of being president, LOL!

              2. And the guy you are supporting has had multiple affairs, has been accused by multiple women of sexual assault, paid off porn stars and was caught on tape talking about how he can grab women by the P***y. But you’re going to draw the line on a BJ in the oval office. Got it.

              3. Art, Scump’s mere presence in the WH is an affront to anyone with respectable values.
                If you like a conman > Scump is your guy
                If you like a grifter > Scump is your guy
                If you like 20 lies every day > Scump is your guy
                If you like a misogynist> Scump is your guy
                If you like a racist> Scump is your guy
                If you like a white supremacist > Scump is your guy
                If you like bone spurs > Scump is your guy
                If you like someone with no respect for the constitution > Scump is your guy
                If you like a cheater> Scump is your guy
                If you like a thin skin, pompous buffoon > Scump is your guy
                If you like to pay for prostitutes > Scump is your guy
                If you like to betray your marriage vows> Scump is your guy
                If you like to not get paid for work done > Scump is your guy
                If you like to be a sycophant> Scump is your guy
                If you like to support nepotism > Scump is your guy
                If you like someone who is grossly incompetent > Scump is your guy

                BTW, I don’t hate Scump, I’m extremely embarrassed to have to explain over and over again to my foreign visitors why this manchild says one thing and does the opposite. I tell them Scump is his name and money for himself is his only game.
                He will go down in history.
                Down down down all the way as the worst president ever.

          2. Rib,
            Under the Trump aadminitration, the Black and Brown communities have had more jobs than under any other president.
            I wholeheartedly agree. “Actions speak louder than words.”

            1. In the aftermath of the 2008 recession black unemployment rate spiked to 19.3% by march 2010. By the end of the Obama presidency, Jan 2017, it had dropped 12.1 percentage points down to 7.2% and trending even further downward at that point. Along comes Trump, your best president ever for blacks, got it down an additional incredible 2% to a low of 5.1 in Oct 2019. You don’t really want to know what it is currently.

              https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000031

              In other words, your, and Trumps specious claims, would be like Dexter Carter – coming into a 49ers team stacked with Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Steve Young, Tom Rathman, Charles Haley, etc – and taking credit for all those super bowls. As a person of faith aren’t you just a little bit ashamed of this deceptive effort you are trying to pull off?

              1. Also BTW, since you are big on historical information, the previous low black unemployment – 5.2% – in Dec 1973. The President – Richard Nixon. Trump is in some damned good company.

              2. Dexter rode on the shoulders of the great 49ers you mentioned.
                Trump crumpled the shoulders of the democrats.
                That’s why they impeached him. What did Nancy say with a smirk on her face, “he’s impeached forever” what a joke.
                When Bill got impeached it was bi-partisan at least. The Dems actually had a backbone back then.

                You keep saying that I’m casting stones. Nah, just reaffirming that no president is perfect. That has been the crux of my comments going on two weeks now.
                You have vilified Trump to often on here without one mention of the faults of other presidents.
                I’ve said over the past 3 years that I didn’t vote for Trump. But because I chose to support him, now I’m out of tune with those who hate him.
                Sorry, I don’t roll like that.

              3. What did Nancy say with a smirk on her face, “he’s impeached forever” what a joke.

                Ummmm, he is impeached forever. He’ll have that asterisk for all history. The truth is a “a joke” to you MAGAs? Wait, you don’t need to answer that.

              4. AES,

                You just got hit with some evidence that contradicted what you said and instead of allowing that you might be wrong about Trump, you move on to something else in an attempt to defend him. That is called an apologist and that is what you are doing with these statements that aren’t backed up by the facts. If you want to focus on the impeachment go ahead because if the Senate wasn’t so brazenly partisan he would have been found guilty. All the evidence was there to impeach him. The only reason he wasn’t is the blind eye Republicans continue to turn toward him.

                The only thing this man has done to improve the economy is give massive tax cuts to the rich and corporatists who in turn use the majority of the savings on stock buybacks to power up their worth. The measly tax cut he gave to the rest of the country is countered by reduced tax write offs and the fact a piece of the tax cut is taken back every year until it’s back where we started in about 5 more years. Everything else he’s done from instituting tariffs so US suppliers would suffer and consumers would pay more, to putting draconian restrictions into immigration have made the country poorer on the blue collar level and we get to see him act like a clown on the world stage as a bonus. I hope you can educate yourself on what this man brings to the table because you sure don’t seem to know it right now.

              5. Under the Trump aadminitration, the Black and Brown communities have had more jobs than under any other president.

                They keep repeating this LIE.

                It’s not only an insult to AA…….it shows how disgusting these people are that they will make up a LIE, believe in that LIE and try to convince others on the LIE…….and they never back it up with numbers or tell us what kind of jobs they created……..

                Times are changing….

                The hypocrisy is not so easy to hide anymore ….Repubs talking points..

                What about blacks killing blacks

                …..

                Black fathers don’t take care of their families

                ……..

                It’s funny how they care about the AA Father when trying to shutdown the black voices …at the same time they are OK with AA men killed by police……..smh

              6. You are funny, Art.
                Didn’t the MAGAts started the “lock them up” ideology???
                You don’t like your line of thinking when it is applied to your ilk….
                Or is it the put them to work that scares your people (as in Scumpmen)?

            2. Rib,
              “The truth is a “a joke” to you MAGAs? Wait, you don’t need to answer that.”

              Well, actually I will. But in doing so I’ll just repeat my original comment, “Clinton’ impeachment was bi-partisan.” Trump’ not so much. OK, it was a landslide a majority vote of democrats. The same party that whiffed on the Mueller Russian investigation.

              The Trump hatred machine set in motion by the democrats and liberal news outlets has been in high gear since day one on his presidency.
              Nearly 63mil Americans voted for Trump, what do you Dee wish to do with them?
              Maybe it’s time to rely on Democrats like Bill de Blasio and Washington State Gov. Jay Inslee.

              From the New York Post
              “New York City first lady Chirlane McCray — whom Mayor Bill de Blasio has credited for his executive decision to jump on the “defund the police” bandwagon — said no cops patrolling the streets would be a “nirvana,” according to a report.”

              Is this the same Bill de Blasio who was running for president not long ago?

              MYNORTHWEST. com
              ” Governor Jay Inslee is being widely mocked for saying he wasn’t aware of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle, his state’s largest city. This is the biggest story in the country, receiving national attention landing it on the Twitter trending list for over 24 hours.”

              Ha! You can’t make this stuff up.

              If I’m not mistaken, this guy was also running for president. de Blasio already folded like a tent and signed for defunding the NYPD.

              Great leadership and backbone, indeed.
              Trump may be a big hot air balloon always blowing off grating words, but he will not allow Americans to legislate their own laws while protesting on streets and taking over city blocks.

              1. If you are so concerned about misrepresenting the NYC local government, I’d suggest you steer clear of the city. (BTW, the NY Post is a notorious Murdoch slime rag, taken about as seriously as a maga cap wearing yokel by NYers. Somewhat decent sports section though, I’ll give it that)

                Nearly 63mil Americans voted for Trump, what do you Dee wish to do with them?

                That’s still 3 million fewer than Clinton got. What did you do with them?

                I don’t wish to do anything with them. What they decide to do with themselves in the next 4 years under a democratic president is up to them. Likely not much more than whine about George Soros.

              2. Also:

                The Trump hatred machine

                Are you not familiar with the concept of one reaping what one sows? It’s mentioned quite a few times someplace, some sort of book, you should be familiar with.

              3. Are you not familiar with the concept of I Give As Good As I Get?
                The book of UDO/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u_q1dZpFY

              4. Are you not familiar with the concept of I Give As Good As I Get?

                Yes, straight from the teachings of Christ, is it not?

              5. Nearly 63mil Americans voted for Trump, what do you Dee wish to do with them?

                We can use them to build more prisons and then put them in it. Just think of how much safer we all would be and all the jobs it would create!

              6. “We can use them to build more prisons and then put them in it. Just think of how much safer we all would be and all the jobs it would create!” Dee

                And there you have it.
                The democrats progressive line of thinking in less than 32 words.

                Nice inspirational words.
                C’mon Dee, you are kidding here aren’t you?
                Btw, whose going to manage all of us when you defund law enforcement?
                Sheesh, you can’t make this stuff up.

              7. It’s no coinkydink that cities ran by democrats for decades are a mess.

                LBJ sent in troops to protect civil rights so why can’t Trump send them in to protect people and their property? No they’d rather get on their knees, surrender then talk about negotiating with these criminals. This will be the Biden foreign policy, appeasement and weakness. This will only encourage our enemies and lawlessness….

              8. why can’t Trump send them in to protect people and their property?…surrender then talk about negotiating with these criminals.

                How about sending them into the Dept of the Treasury? Mnuchin refuses to release an accounting of $650b of your tax money through the forgivable small business loans program because of “confidentiality”. Who is he protecting? Not me, I received a PPP loan, go ahead publish me. The grift never stops with this bunch. $650 billion. Talk about looters. And you guys are up in arms over a some sneakers and few TVs. Adorable, just adorable.

              9. Sheesh, you can’t make this stuff up.

                But you sure can. Despite the horror reporting you are no doubt getting on your “fair and balanced” news source, defunding the police” doesn’t mean no police.

    2. That’s because the policies of the two parties were reversed back then as I’m sure you know. The Republican party in 1856 was progressive and very liberal much like the Democratic party of today. Even the most die hard Republican supporters wouldn’t try to pretend the original version is anything like todays. As for the stature removals and banning of the Confederate flag, why would our country want to continue promoting treason and the losing side of the Civil war?

      1. As for the stature removals and banning of the Confederate flag, why would our country want to continue promoting treason and the losing side of the Civil war?

        Though not an “original” sin, Germany has attempted to atone for it’s 20th century sin by strictly banning any and everything pertaining to Nazism. It looks like something similar is finally in store for us when it comes to our slavery past.

        1. Rib,
          “Are you not familiar with the concept of one reaping what one sows? It’s mentioned quite a few times someplace, some sort of book, you should be familiar with.”

          Yes, I’m very familiar with that concept. I’m also familiar with the concept of compartmentalization, which some here feel towards Trump.

          We continue to go in circles here, Rib. I’ve said from outset that Trump is not the creator of racism. The 24 hr propaganda daily show CNN may have been successful in convincing millions that Trump is a blatant racist, but their “fair and balanced” reporting doesn’t work for me.
          Btw, CNN and the liberal media may also reap what they sow for the hatred that they’ve been guilty of sowing for years.

      2. Truth,
        What is it with your girl Nancy Pelosi? Word on the street is that she is looking into removing at least 11 more statues.
        Talk about strong leadership, right?

        I mean, she has been in politics for over 30 years and suddenly she has an epiphany about the removal of statues.
        Maybe she’s been deeply troubled by this over the past 30 years. Lol!
        Got to give the desperate Democratic party some credit for being opportunistic in taking advantage of the current affairs.
        Again, you can’t make this stuff up.

        1. AES, good to see you, as the imperfect human you claim to be, perfectly able to climb down off your sanctimonious high horse and do a little denouncing of other imperfect humans of a political nature. But only those you disagreed with politically. Good show!

          1. Rib,
            Maybe you missed the actual message here. The democrats are the most bending, opportunist, chameleon party ever created.

            Your presidential hopeful Joe Biden vividly displayed this a couple of weeks ago when he visited with the George Floyd family.
            I ask you, how many families of the other black and brown people that have been killed by police officers has Biden visited?
            Let’s just say that some people could see the ulterior motive in that visit.
            Btw, not once have I ever promoted myself above anyone here.

            1. AES,

              I ask you, how many families of the other black and brown people that have been killed by police officers has Biden visited?

              Trump talked directly to the Floyd family too. How many has he reached out to previously? You just continue to criticize one side when both are guilty of the same thing. At least be honest about your bias.

        2. Who said Pelosi was my girl? This is the problem with trying to get Trumpers to focus on the issues instead of just changing the subject when all his faults are pointed out. I have no ties to either party. I just see a Republican party imploding and allowing a child in an old mans body run amok which is – for the rational people in the Country – unsupportable. You produce talking points straight out of Fox news and right wing echo chambers complete with accusing the other side of fake news. I said it earlier above and I’ll repeat it here: you either don’t know who represents what or you are just choosing what fits your confirmation bias.

          How about we take this in another direction to focus on the issues at hand. What has Trump done in your opinion that been positive for the majority of the Countries population and why do believe he is deserving of another term?

    1. I mentioned CJB and Pettis many times. I advocated for Tevin Coleman to be traded away during the draft, but they chose Breida, since other teams probably did not want to take on Coleman’s salary.
      .
      I disagree about Compton. He should be given the opportunity to compete for the RG position. His poor play during his tenure with the Jets may have been affected by the overall lack of talent along the O line.
      .
      I certainly disagree with Grant about Solomon Thomas. It looks like they will keep him, and hope he shines like Shaquil Barrett did once he emerged from under Von Miller’s shadow. Right now, he has a 9 mil dead cap hit, and would only have $90,000 in cap savings.
      .
      Maybe Ross Dwelley, Grant’s favorite, may be a cut candidate, since he has a zero dead cap hit, and $750,000 in cap savings.

        1. Hey George, how’s the ticker?
          .
          I agree. Compton might fit in well in KS’s system.
          .
          Interesting. Compton can play as a FB? Nice versatility.

    2. George,
      I was very impressed with Harris last preseason. I hope he develops this yr. If he does he could save our 2nd round pick in the draft next yr from having to be a CB (we already know our first pick will be a D lineman)

    1. I was excited when I saw him play his first niner game.
      I am excited at the potential he brings to the offense.
      He’s a serious deep threat at 6’4″

        1. a players-organized workout at San Jose State, where he is seen running routes for Garoppolo.

          I guess Hurd didn’t get the memo from Crabtree about that SJS turf doing a number on your feet.

    2. George,
      Thanks for the good news.
      We only got a small sample of Hurd in a preseason game in which he scored two TD’s. But we saw a player that is capable of being a red zone ace, and a player who will break tackles for the extra yard.
      WR’s who are capable of breaking tackles seems to be the Shanahan MO.
      Love to see this kid stay on the field this year.

    1. George,
      I am curious which side of the Kittle controversy do you fall in? Sign him for money well above the current range for TE’s? Play hardball with him and either trade him or franchise tag him if his asking price is too high?

      1. He clearly deserves more than the top end of the current TE range, and he’s their best offensive player, better than JG is at his position, although QB is more important. Kittle may turn out to be the greatest player of all time. He’s also still in his prime years and plays through pain. No one outside his inner circle and the team knows what he’s asking for. $20 million/year? That’s $100 million over the next five years. Let’s say that’s what he wants. I think they have to roll the dice on his continuing to be able to play productively and give him a huge signing bonus and maybe a five-year contract to amortize it in order to manage the cap.

          1. Kittle is an exceptional player who has benefited greatly from the KS system. He should take as much as he can get but also be considerate of what it does to the team. I think an incentive laden contract is better for the cap.
            I do remember that the one player who made adjustments for the team in his contract was screwed in the end. He was a team player, even when it benefited others. Yes that too was Kaepernick.

            1. Kaepernick sucks and so does your weak attempt at trying to defend him taking a team laden deal.
              Remember 2 things about your hero. He decided he was bigger than the game and insulted the NFL and the USA by using it as his personal platform.
              Then he thought he was worth more money than he actually is and no team wants his headache now.

              This is his legacy:
              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2MUiIcwQPM

              1. TP, When did you ever take a million $$$ hit for a team?
                Did you take ANY team to the SB too ? EVER?

              2. How hard is it to look up a date of a person you so admire and cherish? Dumb a$$ Seb/Niner Poe/Dee cannot be right about one thing even if he tries!

            2. I will take Matt Ryan’s and Pete Carroll’s assessment of Kaep over yours.
              .
              They both have opposed Kaep in a game, and both think he can start in the league.
              .
              Kaep was proven right, and everyone will kneel now.
              .
              Insulted the NFL? Goodell thinks they were wrong, and peaceful protest against police brutality is morally and ethically a just cause.
              .
              You are wrong, like most everything you say. Wanting to make it twice as hard to win may sound macho to you, but it is kinda brain dead. Wanting to bet that they would draft a CB, then see them pass on all CBs, just shows that you are not the brightest bulb. You even bet 200 bucks that the Niners would draft Trubisky, then welched on the bet.

              1. “ Kaep was proven right, and everyone will kneel now.

                Another feather in your cap proving how wrong once again you will be.

                Niner Poe, Dee, Sebnnoying, it does not matter what profile you post under, you are always one stack short!

              2. Everyone who matters will kneel, just like both teams in the German soccer league.
                .
                Why, I bet even Drew Brees will kneel, now that he knows it was not a sign of disrespect for the military, but a protest against police brutality.
                .
                You on the other hand, would not kneel, because you probably like cops kneeling on necks
                .
                Every time you say Kaep sucks, I will point out the EFFUSIVE praise Pete Carroll gave Kaep. He should know, because he had coached against Kaep for years. Pete Carroll thinks Kaep should be a starter, not a backup, because he is an elite talent.
                .
                You know so little football, I wonder how you ever managed to play the game. Probably white privilege. Meanwhile, I chose Javon Kinlaw in my last mock before the draft. The Niners did 3 things I advocated for that you thought was stupid. They managed to trade back and get another pick, yet still got the player they targeted. KS bundled picks to move up to get the player he coveted. They managed to trade away players for picks. I specifically mentioned Marquise Goodwin in many of my draft scenarios. I mentioned getting a 4th round pick for Breida, but he went for a 5th round pick.
                .
                So, tell me again how wrong I am. You were so terrified of being wrong, you would not even post a mock, then claimed you got Aiyuk. Begging to bet me 200 bucks that they would select CJ Henderson just shows how wildly wrong you were, and would have been another example of you welching on a bet.
                .
                One stack short? That is a betting term. You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

              3. Psst, when Dee called you a genius for figuring that out, he was making fun of you. You are so gullible.
                .
                Please get a clue.

              4. Interesting how you can speak for him? Nice try Seb/Niner Poe/Dee!

                The cats out of the bag!

              5. We just got another cat. Moxie, our grey tabby is not happy. Kiki, the new cat, thinks she’s died and gone to heaven. Yesterday, she was lying in some catmint, in a stupor. She went from cooped in an apartment in Berkeley, to living on 2 and a half acres. She has not figured out what to do with the gophers, but she is fascinated, and wiggles her tail while staring at the earth moving.
                .
                Weasley sounds like a lucky cat. I used to know an orange tabby named Rampage Maniac. He was aptly named.

              6. Matt Ryan and Pete Carroll are saying all the “right” words but neither one will hire Kap. They are happy with their guys or Kap doesn’t fit their system, what a cop out. Carroll is a proven cheater and liar and I don’t believe a word he says. Why do you think Goodell has suddenly become enlightened?

              7. TP. don’t listen to Seb. He’s just trying to confuse you.
                YOU are the smart one.
                YOU know things.
                YOU are smarter than all the rest.
                YOU figured it out!

              8. Seb,
                Pete Carroll seems to be back-peddling
                with his recent comment that “he regrets not signing Colin Kaepernick.”
                Carroll’ comment (imo), is simply a trigger affect based on the current national situation.

                Two years have past since he met with Kaepernick in 2017. If he sincerely regrets not signing Kaep, he could make amends by signing him right now.
                Otherwise, please stop with the need to gratify the popular demand.

                Btw, if Carroll really feels that Geno Smith is better than Kaepernick, his recent comment could backfire in his face. He may have painted himself into a corner.

              9. Dee Phiant says:
                June 12, 2020 at 3:15 pm
                TP. don’t listen to SebYou mean you?He’sI’m just trying to confuse you.
                YOU are the smart one. I know!
                YOU know things.Duh!
                YOU are smarter than all the rest.Just you really!
                YOU figured it out! Always have!

                I know for a fact you post as Sebnnoying as well!

              10. OK TP, I always was afraid you would figure it out.
                .
                We should meet here at Frank’s Corner in Sebasto and smoke some Ghost Train Haze unless you can get us some real Red Gold Kratom.
                .
                What do you say?
                .
                BFF?

              11. I asked you to meet a year ago and you chickened out. Trust me if we meet we’re not smoking pot together.

              12. AES, Pete Carroll was explicit. He said another team called to ask him about Kaep. He stated that Kaep is very talented. There never was a good fit in Seattle because Russell Wilson was the starter, and PC stated that he thought that Kaep would not be content backing up a starter. He thought Kaep should be a starter in this league.
                .
                Considering the drek QBs that have started the last 3 years, Kaep is clearly superior.
                .
                Will Grier, Sean Mannion, Luke Falk, Trevor Siemian, Ryan Finley, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron, Colt McCoy, Mason Rudolf, Brandon Allen, David Blough, Devlin Hodges, Brian Hoyer, Robert Griffin, Jeff Driskel, Chase Daniel, Cam Newton, Matt Shaub, Nick Foles, Eli Manning, Ben Rothlisberger, Kyle Allen, Marcus Mariota, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, Matt Moore, Andy Dalton, Mitch Trubisky, Drew Lock, Dwayne Haskins, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Jacoby Brissett, Gardner Minshew, Baker Mayfield, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jameis Winston and Phillip Rivers. Those are 38 QBs who started games in 2019, and imho, all are inferior to Kaep.

              13. “ Considering the drek QBs that have started the last 3 years, Kaep is clearly superior”

                Clearly you are an idiot who cannot understand that the QB position requires vision, accuracy and intelligence.
                This clip demonstrates long wind up, doesn’t have any of those qualities.

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F2MUiIcwQPM

              14. Yeah, now show his highlights, and he is shown to have a cannon for an arm, and can run like a gazelle. He has set records. I could find a blooper reel of any player, and he would look incompetent. Kaep is way better than Trubisky, the guy you bet 200 bucks the Niners would draft.
                .
                Your assessment skills are totally lacking, and totally biased.
                .
                Many haters want to continue the narrative that he cannot play, or even want to play, but he is still very talented, and has a burning desire to play.
                .
                Kaep has been proven right, and you just cannot handle that. And that makes me very happy.

              15. Cannon for an arm? Run like a gazelle. Yeah all true Seb/Niner Poe/Dee but his entire game, his entire body of work in the NFL was not sustainable. Why? Because he never was a student of the game and he never got better.

                You can sit here all you want and beat that drum. I encourage it because there is nothing better than coming on here seeing you wrong each and every time.

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OfCfezzvOEQ

              16. “He (Carroll) thought Kaep should be a starter in this league.” Seb

                There was a definite decline in Kaep’ play, and more importantly, Dcords had the blueprint to stop him.
                I recall an opposing player saying that their defense wanted to force Kaep to throw. That is never a positive commentary regarding an NFL QB.

                At this stage, I doubt CK views himself as an immediate starter if he is signed. He will need to prove himself, but imo, he deserves the opportunity to try.
                The ground has been tilled for him to receive his best chance to be signed.
                Pete Carroll, should put action to his words If he truly regrets not signing Kaep three years ago, he could come correct today.

                Kaep, may not be a top QB in the league, but even after being out of football for all this time, he’s still better than Geno Smith.
                Time for Petey to “put up or shut up.”

              17. AES Kaepernick might be better than a lot of QB’s in the NFL but not any that are starters.
                And we know that a team would be foolish to sign a 32 year old backup who has been out of the league for 3 years. And…. all the media distraction that comes with him. And…the fact he wants starter money. Pfffff! Good luck!
                End of the day the guy is a has been!

              18. Prime,
                “And we know that a team would be foolish to sign a 32 year old backup who has been out of the league for 3 years. And…. all the media distraction that comes with him. And…the fact he wants starter money. Pfffff! Good luck!
                End of the day the guy is a has been!”

                I get your point. And I agree that at this stage, he should not expect a starters contract either.
                But I’ve always contended that he deserves a chance to try-out. Since Carroll regrets not signing Kaep three years ago, he could make it right by signing him now.

              19. Try out? Kaepernick thinks he is good enough to start!

                This whole Kaepernick thing is shaded by his stance. From a football perspective, he won’t add much value to any team. He’s one dimensional, good at the read option and that’s it. But the biggest thing is he hasn’t been tackled in 3 years. You don’t come back after being out of the league after that much time. He’s done.

              20. AES, you are missing the point. Sure, Kaep is light years better than Geno Smith. However, many have claimed that RW was having an MVP season. I will fully admit that RW is elite, and right now, probably better than Kaep. The Seahawks do not need Kaep, just like the Niners do not need Kaep, because they have JG.
                .
                Pete Carroll thinks that Kaep is a starter, and there are at least 16 teams that could sign Kaep, because they have drek QBs. To start with, he is better than any untested and unproven rookie QB. Therefore, he could start for the Bengals, Chargers or Dolphins. He is better than an aging Phillip Rivers, so the Colts may be a decent landing spot. The Bucs, Steelers and Saints also have aging QBs, who may have diminishing skills. The best landing spot may be the Patriots. Stidham is not as talented as Kaep, and they have a decent defense. Belichick could maximize his potential.
                .
                The Bears, Jags, Browns, Panthers, Washington, Giants, Jets, and Broncos all have unproven QBs. If given a chance to compete against any one of them, Kaep would have a good chance to win the starting role.
                .
                Pete Carroll does not need to ‘put up or shut up.’ Those 16 other teams need to give Kaep a chance to compete. The Blackballing needs to stop.

              21. Yeah ok Seb/Niner Poe/ Dee. Keep dreaming!

                “ Sure, Kaep is light years better than Geno Smith”

                Difference is Geno Smith can study and read defenses.

                I hope he signs with someone in our division so if he plays, it will be the easiest task our defense will face. In fact, I guarantee our practice squad reserves on defense would force old wind wind up into 3 INTs, 2 forced fullness and a passer rating in the negative!

              22. Your guarantee is worth a bag of spit.
                .
                Touting Geno Smith as a QB who can study? Maybe he should study the time zones because then he would realize there is a 3 hour difference between the east and west coasts. Then he might not go to a movie and miss a team meeting. Geno Smith can read defenses? No. He could not beat out Mark Sanchez. He could not read a defense, so Ryan Fitzpatrick beat him out of a starting job. He could not beat out Eli Manning, even when Manning had visibly declined. Geno Smith is a team leader? He got his jaw broken because he refused to pay back a loan. Refusing to pay is right up your alley. No wonder you can relate to him.
                .
                If Geno Smith could read defenses, he would not have failed miserably on the Jets, Giants and Chargers. He has a 72.7 QBR, which is way lower than Kaep with his 90.7 QBR.
                .
                First you tout Trubisky, now you tout Geno Smith. If you want to get out of your hole, you really should stop digging..
                .
                Kaep is way more talented and way more accomplished than either of those 2 QBs. He has not been sacked or hit for 3 years, so he is totally healthy. He is only 31, so he could possibly play for the next 10 years.
                .
                The NFL has egg all over their face, and like I predicted, history will not be kind to the NFL for their persecutorial blackballing of a genuine hero. Kaep was right all along, and it should not have taken George Floyd being murdered, before police reforms are implemented.
                .
                The NFL needs to take concrete actions to atone for their past racial discrimination. They need to have one courageous owner to step up and give Kaep a fair tryout.

              23. Silly old man, You don’t even know how old your hero is.

                “ He is only 31, so he could possibly play for the next 10 years”
                32 you dumb sh$t!

                Nov.3, 1987

          1. Nobody wants to see Kittle leave or get a bad contract. It’s a matter of what you have to pay for each position based on the top 5-10 contracts and how it affects the salary cap. If they give Kittle 20 mill or close to it, they are overpaying that position by 7-8 million dollars based on what you would give a TE at the top of the position rankings under normal circumstances. That means they would be 7-8 million short in trying to retain other players they want to keep. In a perfect world the team could look at it the way you do and pay him just based on his value to the team, but you can’t do that in a cap system or your overall roster is going to suffer when you can’t extend other players you really need to keep.

            1. They’ll never in a million years give him $20 million a year. If that’s what he’s asking for then he’s as good as gone. If I’m Shanny I want to know definitively whether or not he plans on holding out this year, because I’d make it clear in no uncertain terms that he will be getting the franchise tag next year regardless….

            2. Fl49er,
              I agree with you 99% the other 1% and my only caveat is when you are talking about a once in a generation player and I consider Kittle to be that. imho

              1. That’s cool OldCoach I don’t disagree that he’s a generational player. Unfortunately the system doesn’t allow you to reward those guys without diminishing your roster. My guess is they come to some sort of agreement but what it looks like in the end is anyone’s guess.

              2. This is the drawback of being a SB contender. Their success has increased their worth, and other teams may have enough cap space to lure a player away with big bucks, like they did with Buckner.
                .
                I hope Kittle will take a home discount, because his best chance to get a ring may be to play for the Niners.

            3. Yep. Unfortunately the cap makes it impossible to pay everyone. Much like they did with Buck, they are going to have to figure out at what price point does trading Kittle become more valuable than paying to keep him, in consideration of the other players that allows them to keep as well as the draft capital received.

              I can’t get on board with paying Kittle $20M a year for all the reasons already mentioned by others. But also I would be very worried that given the way he plays and injuries he has already suffered that at some point during his next contract his body will start breaking down.

              1. That’s a really good point about the way Kittle plays. He is so physical that you can’t help but think he’s going to have a shorter career due to injury.

              2. Razoreater says:
                June 10, 2020 at 4:09 pm
                He then can hold out unlike a RB holding out he has many years left in his career

                Dunno about that, OldCoach. He’s reckless with his body and it’s already in need of repair.

              3. This will be the contract:

                5 years, $60 million, $45 guaranteed with incentives up the whahoo!

              4. PT, whats the max contract you can see if he hits all incentives thresholds? Is your 60m with all incentives? If so, I think you are low, it’s going to take more than 12m/year – somewhere between 12 and 15, imo.

              5. I think it will end up being about 13 million a year if he hits all his incentives.

                To me that’s a fair deal. $15-20 is way too much.

              6. Razor, with all due respect that’s $20.5 million a year (over five years), and that’s what I was driving at, although I picked $20 million out of a hat.

              7. With the guarantee, you bet but anyone that thinks they’ll pay him $20 million a year straight up plus a big guarantee is fooling themselves….

    1. I saw that few days ago. Brunskill is defiantly a keeper. Donald will always get his but Brunskill played very well against him.

        1. If they use Brunskill at Guard during the preseason he will end up being our starting guard. My concern is they will use him at Tackle because they want him to be their swing tackle. We would end up with the best back up tackle in football but would be far weaker at guard.

          1. They have options at RG with Reynolds, McKivitz and Compton if they do entertain thoughts of doing that OldCoach. I expect Coleman to win the swing OT job, and he might end up being insurance in case Williams leaves for bigger money….

          2. OC, I think you’re right about him becoming the starting right guard. I don’t know if Compton can still play, but if he’s any good I’m guessing he’ll be backup guard. If it works out that way and if either of our two tackles couldn’t play, I’m guessing Brunskill would fill in there with Compton playing guard. I know Razor thinks Coleman will be the swing tackle, but he was a dud at tackle with Cleveland, so we’ll just have to see how that develops.

            1. Coleman was a 3rd round pick and the 49ers traded for him. Prior to the injury the 49ers believed Coleman was a starting OT in this league. We’ll see how it all shakes out but I’ll be surprised if Coleman doesn’t win that job….

              1. I think Brunskill wins the job and Coleman becomes the swing tackle. I don’t much about Coleman but Brunskill came in and held his own during some tough opponents last year.
                Plus he knows the offense.

              2. Williams/Tomlinson/Garland/Brunskill/McGlinchey

                Richburg begins on PUP, Coleman is the swing OT and McKivitz beats out Compton as the backup OG

              3. Great minds can still disagree.

                For what it’s worth, draft reports on Coleman opined:
                — Not athletic, poor pass protector but good run blocker
                — Not left tackle material
                — Projects as right tackle or guard

                If this was true at the time and remains the same, about which I have no knowledge, he’s not suited for swing tackle. Brunskill is though, imo.

                Btw, Cleveland used him as a right tackle, and the Niners paid a seventh round pick to get him.

              4. Dunno, but to these layman’s eyes Coleman looked good in the limited time I watched him play.

                All this talk about Brunskill as the swing OT sounds fine in theory but it’s been reported that the 49ers have him concentrating all his zoom camps on RG.

          3. Old Coach, Brunskill may very well win the starting RG spot, but I have consistently put Compton in at RG, because he is familiar with KS, and he WANTED to come to the Niners.
            .
            This is a good problem to have. Spirited competition is good, and a hot fire hardens steel.
            .
            If Brunskill manages to win the swing tackle spot, I hope they trade Shon Coleman to the Broncos for a 4th or 5th round pick. Bolles has not shined for them, and Coleman may be an upgrade.

        2. “Brunskill was a huge surprise and the only way he’s going anywhere is if he hires Kittle’s agent.”

          Ha! Good call Raz.

  27. The final line up may be Williams, Tomlinson, Richberg, Compton and McGlinchey. Our Lads have Justin Skule, Kofi Amichia (Shon Coleman is third), Ben Garland, Ross Reynolds and Daniel Brunskill as the backups.
    .
    ESPN has Brunskill at RG with Compton as his backup, and Shon Coleman backing up McGlinchey at RT..
    .
    The O Line competition may be fierce, but another position that may have tough competition and painful cuts is the WR corps. I hope they manage to trade away Pettis, but Kendrick Bourne may give the most salary cap savings. Aiyuk may make both Pettis and Bourne expendable.
    .
    It is heartening to hear that Hurd and Taylor are catching passes from JG. If they come back strong, they may have to cut a very talented player. KS should showcase Pettis and Bourne, to maximize their trade value..
    At the end of TC, the players they keep may be Deebo, Aiyuk, Richie James, Trent Taylor and Jalen Hurd. The 6th spot may be a competition between Bourne, Pettis and Travis Benjamin. Jauan Jennings best hope may be to survive the 53 cuts to make it onto the PS.

  28. “Liberty is not a universal right but is reserved for the intelligent, the patriotic, the virtuous and deserving.” … John C. Calhoun Twice Vice President of The United States of America.

    What form of government did John want? What form of government does Donald want? Would Donald want any other “great” leaders sharing his Mount Donald with him?

    1. The actual Calhoun quote is below (and it is much worse):

      It follows, from what has been stated, that it is a great and dangerous error to suppose that all people are equally entitled to liberty. It is a reward to be earned, not a blessing to be gratuitously lavished on all alike;—a reward reserved for the intelligent, the patriotic, the virtuous and deserving;—and not a boon to be bestowed on a people too ignorant, degraded and vicious, to be capable either of appreciating or of enjoying it. Nor is it any disparagement to liberty, that such is, and ought to be the case. On the contrary, its greatest praise—its proudest distinction is, that an all-wise Providence has reserved it, as the noblest and highest reward for the development of our faculties, moral and intellectual.

      Let’s just say Mr. Calhoun and I are about as far apart on the philosophy of Liberty as it is possible to be.

      1. Plus, he was crazy AF (to use relatively current vernacular). Even the painters of his official portraits captured the crazy in those eyes.

      2. an all-wise Providence has reserved it, as the noblest and highest reward for the development of our faculties, moral and intellectual.

        Well, I guess that gives US the impetus to lock up the IMPOTUS!

      3. I see similarities in that thought process as in Kissinger’s first utterance of the New World Order concept.

  29. One thing I do miss about Grant is his occasional article about the Warriors or the Giants (usually during slow football times) A post on the Warriors upcoming draft or one about when baseball might start would certainly cleanse the pallet around here.

      1. Seb,
        Although he’s about 36 years old, I’m happy to see one of my favorite SFGiants player back – Mr. Hunter Pence.
        Can’t wait to go back to beautiful (now) Oracle Park.

    1. Trump, about the U.S. soccer team not standing during the anthem – “I won’t be watching much anymore!” And the NFL – “And it looks like the NFL is heading in that direction also, but not with me watching!”

      PT, will you not be watching as well?

      1. I’ll say this from a citizen outside your country.
        Americans were always admired and respected for their undaunted patriotism.
        It’s what’s separated you guys from the rest of the world because when the anthem was played at the Olympics or any international or domestic event, it showed the world that no matter what, Americans loved their country for all their soldiers who fought valiantly in all the wars.

        Now a has been QB decides to kneel during your anthem to show a cause and using the platform of sports to take all that patriotic respect away?
        It makes Americans look divided.
        Sports it’s not the forum to do that and the world who once admired the unity and patriotism the USA displayed is now puzzling.

        I understand there are problems with racism and police brutality. But kneeling during such a symbolic event like a countries national anthem, that for decades made Americans the most respected when it came to patriotism, is now so shameful.

        So will I watch, of course. But if I see players kneel, it will not make me think of the changes needed in our world but rather how a once great country has turned on itself.

        1. during such a symbolic event like a countries national anthem, that for decades made Americans the most respected when it came to patriotism,

          WOW.
          Here I thought you wanted it to be all about sports, but NO, you have to make it about the military, patriotism, the flag and the national anthem!!!
          What a hypocrite you are!
          We’re building a wall to keep you foreigners out of here!

          1. “ but NO, you have to make it about the military, patriotism, the flag and the national anthem!!!

            What the hell else is the anthem about you moron?

            “ We’re building a wall to keep you foreigners out of here!
            News flash dummy, no one wants to the States right now anyways!

            1. I see, this went over your head.
              I’ll go slow.
              A football game is a sport. An anthem is not a sport.
              Playing an anthem at a football game is not a sport related activity.
              Playing at a football game is not playing at the Olympics.
              Playing an anthem at a football game turns sport into a political event.

              no one wants to the States right now anyways!

              Did you flunk ESL too?

              1. “ Playing an anthem at a football game turns sport into a political event“

                You are the stupidest guy on this blog!

              2. You still don’t get it.
                Yes, playing an anthem at a football game turns sport into a political event. Just like what the communists do!
                Are you stupider than you let on?

              3. Stupidest guy on this Blog?
                .
                No, Prime, you have cornered that market, declaring you want to make it twice as hard to win.

              4. Playing the nations anthem at sporting events was designed so that people could show their patriotism and a display of comradery you idiot!

              5. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                Playing the nations anthem at sporting events was designed so that people could show their patriotism

                You just confirmed what I said!
                It shouldn’t be done at a football game, it has NOTHING to do with sports!
                I’ll go with what Seb just said.

              6. “ It shouldn’t be done at a football game, it has NOTHING to do with sports!

                So where should it be sang? Up your ass maybe!
                Stupidest guy on the blog right there!

              7. So where should it be sang? Up your ass maybe!

                I understand that a scatological fixation is a popular thing among hillbillies. So you go ahead, you can sing your anthem while you are sitting on your DJohnT.

              8. Prime Time says:
                June 15, 2020 at 12:02 pm

                Stupidest guy on the blog right here!

                What a wonderful self reflection you have!

        2. You just do not get it. It is patriotic to protest for social justice. I may not speak for everyone, but I love my country, and am glad we have a means and system to peacefully protest. In other parts of the world, people would just be shot for protesting.
          .
          America is the greatest country in the world, and some protests will not change that. Actually, protesting is the catalyst for change, and Kaep has been proven right. Even Goodell admits that.
          .
          Maybe you have forgotten about Tommie Smith and John Carlos. They used their platform to protest the systemic racism, and second class citizenship the Colored have had to endure for years. They peeled off the bandage from the wound, for all to see, and started a dialogue, even though they were persecuted and ostracized. They said- ‘We have achieved greatness, but back in the States, the Whites feel pride in our accomplishments, but continue to discriminate against us. Things have got to change.’ To paraphrase.
          .
          I will still love America, but will also acknowledge the past. Faux Patriotism is just Fascism. The McCarthy era showed that. The Genocide against the native population should not be forgotten or white washed. There were American soldiers saluting the flag, then committing atrocities like My Lai. America fought the Civil War to end slavery, but it just morphed into Jim Crow.
          .
          ‘America looks divided’? It has been for years, but at times of crisis, they have also pulled together in a common cause to fight imperialism and fascism during WW2. Now we have a Divider in Chief, that truly has brought shame and derision upon America. It all starts at the top.We are now faced with a pandemic, and the incompetent leadership has resulted in thousands more deaths.
          .
          ‘ A once great country has turned on itself.’ ? America has always been great, it does not need to become great again. Even with a racist buffoon in the White House, he can only do so much. Once he is gone, America will regain its standing in the world, and lead the world to become more tolerant and Democratic. America will honor its treaties and form stronger alliances, and not retreat so Russia and China fill the void.
          .
          ‘Sports its not the forum to do that.’ Wrong. Jesse Owens and Jackie Robinson has led the way, using sports to make fundamental change in America.
          .
          You sound like Putin, delighting in America’s strife. Well, Gulag Putin has little to be proud of, and now Russia have become an organized crime oligarchy.
          .
          Kaep is a hero, despite your hate. People will now kneel, and you can whine and cry, but you cannot stop it. Go follow Canadian Football, that is about your speed.

          1. Writing multiple paragraphs doesn’t matter. I don’t read any of it, ever!

            You are still the stupidest guy on the blog Seb/Niner Poe/ Dee Pee or whoever you think you are.

              1. Funny how you still don’t know how to use google to look things up.
                Kap is 32 not 31 moron! He will be 33 after then 34…..
                It’s called looking up a date.

              2. But WHY are you looking it up, you don’t like to be accurate in the things you say yourself…..

          2. Seb thinks:

            America is the greatest country in the world.

            Based on what?
            Healthcare? Income? Poverty level? Happiness? Crime? Race?
            https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-rankings

            In 2016, the U.S. ranked fourth. Then it fell precipitously to seventh the next year, following a divisive presidential campaign that moved the country toward a more isolationist agenda.

            How many countries have you lived in Seb?

            1. He spews the propaganda instilled into peoples heads from birth. If you are wealthy, the US is a great country to live in. If you are among the 50% of the working class barely able to make ends meet, not able to afford proper health care and other essentials, it’s not that great. The US has one of the biggest wealth gaps in the world with the top 1% controlling 70% of the wealth and rising. Poverty, violence and racism are running rampant, people are dying because politicians are ignoring health advisors and the economy which never has been great for the majority has become even worse. What’s not to love about the United States?

              1. 50% of the world population lives in abject poverty. You should count your blessings you live in this country.

                Trump’s economy prior to the scamdemic was the best we’ve ever had.

            2. Razordoll, will you be in Tulsa to spread the “scamdemic”?
              Did you sign a waiver for the “scamdemic”???

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