The reports were accurate.
During a podcast last offseason, Mike Silver and Colin Cowherd discussed how they’d heard about 49ers quarterback Trey Lance suffered from arm fatigue during his rookie season.
Thursday morning Lance joined quarterback coach Quincy Avery for an interview. Lance has worked with Avery in the offseason dating back to 2020 when COVID wiped out his final season at North Dakota State. The issue of arm fatigue was one of the topics discussed.
“Yeah, it was just honestly, I don’t know,” Lance said to Avery. “If there’s someone out there at quarterback throwing that much, I mean, it was just, realistically, going back to COVID, and then I started throwing in May because I was rehabbing my hip. So that was when I started getting the ball back in my hand, in May. So, I threw from May 2020 all the way through that year, draft prep, get drafted the next April.
“So, at that point, I had been throwing for a year straight and then go through that whole season until the next January. So, I’d say probably, I don’t know, about 20 months straight of throwing. Like I said, probably a week off in there. I don’t even know if I took a whole week between that whole time. But through that whole season, yeah, for probably 20 months straight.”
The positive of this revelation is the arm fatigue isn’t something that is likely to crop up again anytime soon.
Lance missed all but five quarters of the 2022 season after suffering a broken ankle in week two against Seattle. The 2021 first round draft pick has undergone a pair of surgeries to repair the break and is expected to be cleared prior to the beginning of organized team activities in May.
I wonder if concern about tired arm is why Lance isn’t working with a throwing coach this off season? Its funny when JG got hurt multiple time he was injury prone but when Lance was injured multiple times it was how KS used him……
How is that funny? If you run a QB up the middle he’s not in space and surrounded by 300 lb defensive tackles and thumping middle linebackers. Not a good idea to intentionally run your QB up the middle. Kyle looked to be running some sort of inverted veer type plays with Lance. People point to Josh Allen but that’s the exception not the rule. I’d argue it’s not a good idea to intentionally run your QB to the outside too. To me QB mobility should just be for scrambles to make something out of a busted pass play. QBs are too valuable to intentionally endanger.
Allfor,
Lance has been injured 3 times in two years, once running twice much like JG he was in the pocket.
So that’s at least one time less. Do you disagree with my reasoning?
Jack,
Are you concerned about the huge drop in hits over the last week or so? Do you get pressure from your bosses at the PD about hits? If so I was thinking you might want to do an email bomb to all of the old posters who haven’t returned and even the regulars over the last year. Inviting those who haven’t come back to return. Maybe a special article asking all of the old posters to post about their most memorable post topics etc. Its getting kinda lonely around here. I would even welcome DS back.
OC,
Do you remember where they went?
I hear that quite a few went to razoreaters blog I don’t know the name. I thought that you had the email addresses of everyone who has ever posted here.
Jack / OC
https://inspired49ers.blogspot.com/
I read & post on both your blog and Razors
Yes, and there are repeated references throughout and links to Jack’s PD blog from Cubus and others,
especially Jack’s post game comments on Kyle Shanahan in the NFCCG.
I’d guess it’s only natural that interest drops off after the end of the season. The press also cuts back some. The free agent period, the draft etc will increase interest. .
Even Grant Cohn is taking a break. He’s vacationing in Miami.
Jack
Like most 9ers fans, I’m still reading your blog, but taking a break and not posting much.
Things you could post about, that I am interested in reading are:
* Info on new coaches the 9ers hire, replacing those that left for other NFL teams.
* 9er UFA the team should resign and players they should NOT resign.
* Draft prospects the 9ers should be looking at (pre Combine). to replace UFA that may leave the 9ers.
I find the entire Trey Lance “arm fatigue” story to be a bit tiresome. Arm fatigue is an issue for every athlete in every sport if they over work their throwing arm. The entire purpose of a “camp arm” thats been around in the NFL for decades is to avoid arm fatigue for the top QBs on the team. Other position groups need the work but the teams don’t want the QB throwing a thousand passes in every practice.
On the topic of this blog. This is my favorite 49er blog. I read a few others but this format is by far the best. I also like Jack’s commentary better than any other writer – even if I sometimes disagree with him.
Pat,
Before the NFL limited the camp rosters to 90 teams used to bring in camp QBs to throw to WRs and RBs. They were local HS coaches or sometimes guys who played QB in college would take a couple weeks vacation from their real jobs to throw the ball around. They would suit up like regular players for practice and games. Occasionally they would let them get in a couple of plays in the 1st or 2nd preseason games back when they played 6 of them. They would also bring in a camp C or two, to snap for the place kickers on a side field.
When I was a kid the Raiders held their training camp in Santa Rosa near where we lived. I recall my uncles knew a few of the guys the Raiders brought in as extra camp bodies several years in a row. The world has changed a lot since then.
Pat,
I was born a 9er fan but I would still go to the El Rancho Tropicana where the Raiders trained and hang on the fence to watch them practice.
My family was split in 2. The 49er fans were the educated and successful side of the family. And then there was the criminal side who were the Raider fans. In between stints in prison, they would also go hang around to watch the Raiders practices. Luckily my close family were on the Red n Gold side of fandom.
1.9,
“I find the entire Trey Lance “arm fatigue” story to be a bit tiresome. Arm fatigue is an issue for every athlete in every sport if they over work their throwing arm.”
Completely agree.
I, also believe that Lance’s explanation should more than satisfied all the reporters who tried to make a big deal about it. Just like fans sometimes overreact, the same holds true for sports reporters/journalist.
I am going to go way out on a limb and suggest a very unpopular trade. I preface it with the 49ers need to start by renegotiating around 5 contracts that plus what they will save by the trade could give them close to 60 mill in cap room.
Step 1 trade Bosa to the Texans for their second pick of the first round and their pick in the 2nd round #s 12 and 33. Turn around and draft the best edge rusher at #12 and the best OT at 33.
Step 2 Use that 60 mill to sign FAs DT Daron Payne and G Isaac Seumalo.
Step 3 resign H. Ridgeway, K. Hyder, J. Ward and E Moseley.
Step 4 trade for Chase Young using two of this years 3rd round picks and a 2nd from next year.
Step 5 fill the C position with either Poe, Zakelj or Brunskill
Step 6 Trade Kinlaw for a late draft pick saving anothr 4 mill or so off of the cap.
Step 7 use the remaining 2023 draft picks for a C, TE, RB, CB, S and a K who can KO consistently thru the end zone who can eventually replace Gould
What has been accomplished? A rebuilt and improve O line. A rebuilt and improved D line with a much better pass rush. Continue with a strong D back field
Now start telling why this is the stupidest trade scenario you have ever heard.
Wow. That’s a hell of a scenario. I like every player in that scenario but here are my objections:
Nick Bosa is the best defensive player in football right now and he’s in his prime. I don’t think trading him is a good idea.
Chase Young is supremely talented but the injuries are too much of a concern. He’s like an incredibly beautiful woman who is also a paranoid schizophrenic. Great looking but damn the drama.
I’m not a huge Seumalo fan. He’s a good player and definitely an upgrade over Burford but his value is inflated due to the surrounding cast on that line. Not sure I’d want to pay the price he’s surely going to demand in free agency.
Jimmie Ward is gone. You can hang that hope up now.
Other than that, great proposal.
That’s quite a hual Coach.
Bosa is a very intregal part of the 49ers. Trading him for an unknown commodity is too risky for me. Chase Young is even more riskier due to his injury. We already have Kinlaw who may never reach his full potential due to his injured knee. Young may become the same type of player.
I like your hard-line, no-nonsense approach, but the Bosa move gives me an uncomfortable feeling.
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