Vic Fangio: “Proud is a strong word. You’re never happy in defeat.”

This is the transcript of Vic Fangio’s Tuesday press conference, courtesy of the 49ers’ p.r. department.

So, you have a new linebacker. How do you expect to work with him over the next few days to get him ready for Saturday’s game?

“We just have to do our best to get him acclimated to the system. He’s going to have to do a great job of studying. Obviously, his work day is going to have to be a lot longer than everybody else’s. Not on the field, per say, but studying in the classroom and watching tape and learning what he needs to learn to go out there and play for us on Saturday, if needed.”


You say if needed. So, would LB Nick Moody still be the starter at Jack?



Why not promote LB Shayne Skov to the active roster?

“The front office looked at the possibilities and wanted to go this route right now.”


It seemed like LB Michael Wilhoite got at least banged up in the game as well, was off the field for maybe a play or two. What’s his status?

“I think he’s fine. I think he’s fine. He missed those couple plays and finished the game.”


Is LB Dan Skuta at all a factor inside?

“Yes. He’s an emergency guy. But at the time when Wilhoite had those couple plays where he had to be out, Skuta wasn’t available either. So, we were limited in what we could do there in that short time frame.”


Why was he not available?

“Yeah, he had a little ankle injury.”


How tested were you as a coordinator at that time? I know you try during practice to prepare for all different scenarios, but how unique was that game for you?

“Well, that one time in particular, it was pretty unique in that when you’re down to one inside linebacker and most everything we do on defense we have to have two of them. We did have a personnel group up for that game where we only had one of them. We played that while Wilhoite was getting cleaned up.”


Does LB Chris Borland have a chance to play again this season?

“This season?”



“It’d be a stretch right now.”


You’ve been, the last couple of years on defense, you’ve been relatively injury-free, almost remarkably so. This has obviously been a totally different deal. Obviously you’ve been doing this a long time, but has it challenged you as a coach? Sunday was extreme, but just to think of contingency plans, getting guys ready and all that?

“Well, it’s challenging, but you have to deal with the circumstances you’re dealt with whenever they’re dealt to you. You only have anywhere from 21 to 22 defensive players active in a game. You always know what you’re going to do next. If you totally run out, then it’s called [inaudible]. Great ones can adjust and we’ll try and adjust.”


Along those lines, you’ve lost two nose tackles. You’ve lost two star linebackers. Is it just one of those where it feels like you can’t catch a break, so to speak?

“It usually happens in droves that way sometimes. Like I said, I’ve been in the NFL a long time. There’s been other years like this. You can’t let it get your dobber down. You just have to keep your focus, keep the blinders on and do the best you can do. Our guys that have had to come in and play, we’ve been able to withhold and play pretty decently at times. In that game the other day, we were playing with two corners on several plays that had never been here until just a couple weeks ago. That’s just life in the NFL. Some years it happens more than others.”


What do you think just about how the team is set up for the future at the cornerback position? CB Chris Culliver and CB Perrish Cox are free agents, but with guys like the rookie CB Kenneth Acker, obviously you haven’t seen CB Keith Reaser yet, but CB Leon McFadden and CB Marcus Cromartie, what do you think about some of those guys who maybe haven’t played a whole lot this season and how they would fit in the NFL in the future?

“I don’t think we’ll really know. I can’t give you a great answer on that until after next season, after we have OTAs, training camp, some preseason games, where they actually have a feel and a better knowledge of our system, what we expect them to do and they can go out there and compete at full speed. I think we have to wait on that before I can give you a good answer.”


How would you assess Culliver’s comeback year?

“I think it’s been good. He started off good. Had that little injury that affected him in the middle of the season. Forget exactly what game it was number wise. But, he’s come back from that and had a nice run of games there, I think, and then had this latest setback. Hopefully, he’ll be able to play this Sunday and finish this season strong.”


Given, obviously, all that attrition, you only allowed 17 points. It could’ve been, maybe, 13. Were you particularly proud — ?

“Why? Did you think that was a bad call?”


I just go with whatever the NFL says. The NFL said it was a bad call.

“All three personal fouls were incorrect calls.”


Have you gotten – is that just you?

“I know the rules.”


It could have been 13 points. Were you particularly proud of that performance given your limitations?

“Proud is a strong word. You’re never happy in defeat. There were plays that we could’ve played better and maybe kept it down more besides the four-point play there that we talked about. And maybe, you know, you keep it to a one-score game to where anything can happen at the end of the game. We weren’t able to do that, so that’s disappointing. To go up there and play those guys that tough was, overall, was a good job.”


How would you grade LB Ahmad Brook’s performance before he was injured?

“Good. I think he responded to being held out of last week very well. And in many ways was playing his best up until he got injured.”


How about S Antoine Bethea and just looking back over the season he’s had and really what he’s meant for the defense overall and just his consistency and production?

“It’s meant a lot. He took over an important position, replacing a guy that had been an important player here for us. And it’s been seamless and he’s been professional and he’s earned the respect of all his teammates and his coaches and very glad we have him and it was a great pickup for us.”


That first penalty that S Eric Reid had out of bounds looked like that could have been a penalty. What did you see on that that maybe you think they should have kept the flag in the pocket?

“Well, the guy wasn’t out of bounds when he got hit.”


Do you expect maybe to rotate in a little more some of the reserve, younger guys just because you guys have been eliminated from the playoffs?

“We’re already doing that. That’s happened by necessity. I don’t know who you might be alluding to that hadn’t been playing some.”


Well, guys like DT Tank Carradine?

“Tank’s been playing.”


I know, but would he be playing more?



What about DT Quinton Dial? His last game, was that one of his better performances?

“He played well. Quinton’s another good story through this storm that we’ve had. He’s had to go in and play nose. Really wasn’t being trained to play nose very much in training camp, but because of the injuries there, we had to start doing that. He has stepped up like a man and played well in there for us.”


And what did you see from Tank on Sunday?

“He’s getting better. He’s definitely getting better. Like I said last week, the arrow is up on him. He got the two sacks, which is nice, but one was a screen play that really [DT] Tony Jerod-Eddie made that play because Tony felt the screen, he had nowhere to throw it, and by the time the quarterback saw the screen was covered, Tank’s guy had let him go and he clobbered the quarterback, which was nice. And the other one, he got flushed to him. Feel encouraged by Tank’s play and definitely the arrow’s up.”


Is that what he needs to do, is doing things like Tony did on that play? Kind of sense things?

“Yeah. That comes with experience.”


He was, I know the talk when you guys got him was that he was doing stuff in college that wasn’t really applicable to here as far as just getting up the field. How has he done as far as learning what you expect of him to do at that position?

“Much better. He’s made progress in that area. To me, you throw out last year. Last year was a total nonexistent year for Tank when it comes to learning and getting better playing football. It was a zero year for him. So, this was his rookie year. And he was struggling early, but he slowly was getting better and better. Then he hit another plateau. Struggled a little at that plateau, and now he’s taken off from that plateau. So, it’s a nice progress he’s got going and I think the arrow’s up is the best way to say it. I keep saying that.”


What can you do? You’re about to lose him for a number of months before he comes back for the offseason program, what can a guy like that do in those months to make up some ground on what you’re talking about?

“Well, I don’t think we’ll lose him. I think he’ll be around here and I think he’ll be working out voluntarily under our supervision. He’s got to play. He had meetings. He had every meeting possible when he wasn’t playing last year and he’s past that point. But, he’s got more knowledge of playing now. The film means a little bit more to him now because he’s been out there and he’s got some experience to draw on. So, he can get more out of film now than he could last year. So, I think he’ll get more before we hit the field than he would have gotten last year.”


You said Borland might not return. Could you speak to what he showed you in this rookie year and just what the future holds for this guy?

“Well, he’s done extremely well. He started off when he came in for [LB Patrick] Pat [Willis] late in the second quarter of that first game that he played, he kind of just played and did fine. But, then the next game, which was his first start, he didn’t play as well. And then from that point on, he has taken off and done well. He still makes some mistakes. Still doesn’t react well to certain plays and certain coverages the way he should consistently enough, but I think that will come. I think we got a player that nobody was so sure that if he could play at his collegiate level in the pros and with his work this year, he’s proven that he can, to some degree.”


Can Ahmad play with that thumb injury?

“I don’t know. We’ll find out. A thumb is an important part of your hand there and if he can’t take on, or if he’s hedging to take on, then we’ll have to play somebody else.”

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      1. Nobody ever sounded LESS like a HC than Singletary.
        I can prove it…but first I’ll have to check the film.

  1. Why Brooks is even playing is a joke.
    Where’s the integrity of the coaching staff? That quitter shouldn’t have seen another snap this season after last week.

      1. Really? Everyone? Get lost you bum.
        Go back and prove your accusations. Clown

        Like everything is ck’s fault. Pffft

        1. Just keep hating sir. I see you already jumped on the wagon of calling CK inaccurate,no pocket presence and a deer in headlights.
          Now you are accusing players of quitting. In general you are one miserable person!

          1. Lol bandwagon. Like I said go back and find something I wrote that ever said he was elite or good. Run along and do your homework.

      2. MD is right here Prime. Brooks’ antics this year give the strong impression that he quit on this team, from reporting in out of shape to missing or being late for team meetings. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if he is one of the ‘disgruntled’ players with Harbaugh.

        1. 1 out of shape
          2 quit on the sidelines during a game
          3 and the final straw. Missing a team meeting a couple of weeks after the hissy fit.
          That sure as hell isn’t a sign of someone that wants to win or even be there for that matter.
          But like always prime monkey is searching for ANYTHING to argue about. Quit pathetic. Especially when it’s in his face. He gives ck crap for wearing headphones and answering short, and that he’s in it for himself. Can’t imagine what he’d do if ck pulled this crap.
          Some will do anything for a fight even look foolish. Smh

  2. No-nonsense as usual from Fangio.
    These guys shouldn’t have to go out like this.
    Give Harbaugh and co. another couple of seasons to bring it all home!
    What coaching staff could be more deserving???

  3. Fangio sounds like a coach that gets to still enjoy coaching because he doesn’t have to deal with the BS that head coaches deal with. Making Fangio a HC would ruin him.

  4. If the Yorks are set on moving on from JH, they would be foolish not to give the reigns to either Fangio or Tomsula, unless they have an Ace in the waiting.

    1. Hmmm fools for not giving a chance with a loaded team to two guys unproven. Don’t see that being foolish.

  5. As bad as #7 has performed this season, the Niners would’ve been even worse with Alex Smith, 6-10 at best.
    I blame #7, Roman and O-line in that order for failing to make the playoffs. Let’s see what #7 can accomplish under a new offensive coordinator (hopefully).

    Yes #7 has been awful this season but lets not forget people, Alex was given EIGHT long years and failed. So to be fair, #7 should get a similar opportunity. Not EIGHT years but #7 deserves another year or two as the starter. Hopefully the immature, self-centered brat will get better.

    1. I’d have to disagree with that. I think the team would be in the same boat with either QB. Both have skill sets that would be compliments and detriments to the offense to the point that it would be a wash.

      1. Ehh. Ck has made some big plays with his legs that smith can’t. That season saver in NO comes to mind first off.

        1. And Smith could have managed some games better than Kaep did. Like I said, it would be a wash.

    2. Crab,

      Which game that they won would they have lost with Smith?

      I don’t think Smith loses the Chicago game.

      1. Good read on the web Jack.
        But did I miss where you didn’t mention the horrible call that have Seattle 4 more points, instead of a 3 point try. That could have been a whole 7 point swing if he misses. Whole different ball game down by 6 or 3.

        I also saw that you didn’t mention the couple
        Of plays ck got them out of trouble on third downs one from a missed block on VD for a loss and the other from a penalty.
        I watched the game again and every time they were within the ten they got out of trouble and put together at least some field position drives.

        1. Thanks md.

          Regarding the penalties, you should stop whining. The 49ers weren’t going to score again in that game on Sunday, and against Chicago you aren’t going to win if your QB turns the ball over 4 times.

          1. Do you think it would have made a difference in the game’s outcome if Reid had been able to score after his interception before the half?

          2. Md watches a different game than the rest of the world. He has this special TV that shows CK as a hero and Alex as a pee on. He watches it every single day and somehow has to tell everyone about it. Like we care or something!

          3. Or if the refs call back Gore’s long TD run. Or if our D line couldn’t pressure the QB, or if Fangio left Ward to guard a WR 6 inches taller than him to a tune of three TD’s.

            Team sport Jack…….

              1. Man I sure hope you are not teaching your girls the poor sportsmanship you are babbling about? Officiating and crying about them is for poor losers!

              2. Nice mixing of metaphors, Prime. Unfortunately it made no sense. What are you trying to say?

            1. Want some cheese to go with that whine DSareaHofer?

              It was holding on Boldin, he extended his arm out and grabbed the DB. And sorry, but Bennett did not push off on Reid. Reid lost his balance and fell.

              The defense gives the offense the ball on the 50 and the QB throws a pick on the next play. On the next possession they are in scoring position until the QB coughs it up, costing them 3 points.

              Then the wheels come off in the 4th quarter. The QB throws an interception to give Chi the ball on the 6. On top of that he mouths off which put the ball on the 3.

              On the next series the QB shows his complete lack of pocket presence by taking off and throwing a pick instead of hitting the running back who is wide open in front of him.

              Keep blaming everyone but the QB. You’re the lead Kaepologist around here.

          4. Can’t call it whining with a oops were sorry again note.
            Pretty bold guess that they wouldn’t have scored down by one possession.
            As far as the bears game. Nobody was harder on the qb than me after that game.
            But I damn sure ain’t letting the horrible flood of calls go either. That is what got them back in the game. The ck play gave them the game. For someone who watches “tons of film” sure is funny how you miss these important little details.

            So if the nfl apologizes for a bad call and I call it out, and you call it whining, can I get a good block of cheese with it?

            1. “Pretty bold guess that they wouldn’t have scored down by one possession.”

              Not really. They would likely have been down by 6. On the next possession they failed on 4th and 1 at the Seattle 38.

              1. Where did the QB come into this conversation? This is about you whining about penalties.

                Aren’t you the guy who went on and on about a conspiracy theory after the NFCCG loss in January?

              2. Again with the whining? What part of screw job dont you get?
                Fangio whining too?
                I guess the players that bust their humps don’t mind getting ripped off. Get real. Bad calls don’t apply in your film and stat world. Doesn’t compute huh?

              3. And I guess it was my “whining”
                And imagination as to why bowman is sitting all season and the nfl came up with a new rule due to that game. And the flooding of defensive holding, and an illegal contact rivival. Naaaa. Jack. You know it all. Bad calls couldn’t possibly cost a team a game. You’re right it’s just plain old whining.

              4. “Bad calls don’t apply in your film and stat world. Doesn’t compute huh?”

                Forget that. I almost never whined about calls while I was coaching. Those type of things have a way of working themselves out, and on Sunday they didn’t cost the 49ers the game.

                Guess I’ve never been a believer in conspiracy theories.

              5. “And I guess it was my “whining” and imagination as to why bowman is sitting all season and the nfl came up with a new rule due to that game.”

                That was a bad call, but ultimately did not result in Seattle scoring any points in that game.

                “And the flooding of defensive holding, and an illegal contact rivival.”

                You do realize that in the clips shown to officials before the season there was not a single play involving the Seattle defense right?

                “Naaaa. Jack. You know it all. Bad calls couldn’t possibly cost a team a game. You’re right it’s just plain old whining.”

                When it comes to whining you do it with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.

              6. You’re probably the only coach who never got upset with bad calls that change games. How convient. Never met a coach who wasn’t upset. But you are a legend in your own coaching mind. Congrats to being the first.

                Secondly. The Super Bowl put seattles holding on a national stage. Thus the reason of flooding calls this season.

                Third in your article you pick out two plays ck didn’t make. This is this an example of how those misses could have somehow found their way in winning? So you call out two plays and yet a couple or even one bad call can’t change a game or kill a drive? So are you whining about two bad throws? Lol

                I won’t argue ck’s play, I won’t argue bad play calls, I won’t argue draft picks.
                But for you to sit here and act like you’re some Guru of football and claim bad calls can’t cost teams games. Shows your ego you’ve had built up on this tiny blog is getting a little to big. Try getting away from the web and this spot. And since you’ve coached before you MUST hate or think you know more than every nfl coach who gets pissed about bad calls during a game. I guess you’re calling them all whiners too. Fangio should take your school of coaching, maybe cofflin and belichek too.
                I would give you a cheers on being the only coach that thinks that way, but you’re obviously drunk already.
                Conspiracy theories are theories without solid facts.
                New Orleans bad call cost this team
                Home field.
                That call on Sunday cost them 4 points
                The non holding call on the return in the Super Bowl cost them 7 points..
                The same as last years game in Seattle.
                Did they lose because of those calls? Not necessarily.
                But this isn’t the 80’s where teams are a lot better or stacked.
                Now it’s a watered down league made for more even teams. And last season you didn’t get more even than SF and Seattle. So maybe you can see how today’s nfl’s bad calls can give one team that extra help they need to win.
                With facts I just stated it’s you living in the conspiracy world.

              7. Ahhh there it is. Great debate tactic Jack. Speaking of comprehension.
                Please define whining and how that applies to my post.
                Saying I would
                Have liked to see the results after a one possession game instead of two from a call that the NFL itself said it screwed up and our coaches saying the same.
                Whining doesn’t mean pointing out the facts.
                Stick to the film room and stats. That’s something you’re good at.
                I thought you were better than using lame insults as an answer. Guess that only applies to stats.

              8. I really don’t get what’s so hard to understand. Even if they don’t make the roughing call Seattle likely gets the FG to go up 6. The 49ers then turned the ball over on downs. The penalty didn’t cost them the game.

                The difference between your whining and Fangio’s comments are that he was asked about the calls and responded. He didn’t bring it up.

                When it comes to whining, who does it better than md? Noooooobody!

              9. Jack I will tell you the difference between a roughing the passer penalty or not. Its the difference between the 9ers covering or not and the difference between me finishing 2nd not 3rd in my work pool. That difference cost me 500 dollars so i’m going to whine about that call untill my head explodes. Thanks for letting me rant i feel better now.

              10. Bay,

                If calling you out for giving #7 excuses that you used to rip others for giving #11 makes me a jerk off so be it.

              11. If you guys have not figured out by now that if you do not tell Bayareafanatic what he wants to hear, he name calls.

              12. For someone who points out comprehension skills it’s funny that you’re saying I’m saying they lost due to that call. Never said that. I said..
                I would have liked to see them try to score only down by one possession. As a coach you should know play calling and way of thinking is completely different than being down two possessions.
                You’re the one who made that way of thinking up.
                I called you bold for predicting they wouldn’t have scored with a one possession debt rather than two.
                I’m not saying they would have scored or they wouldn’t have.
                How hard is that to understand?

                Are you looking to fight with someone?

              13. I was going back to my own statement. This offense was not going to score another touchdown.

                Without Gore and Hyde they had no shot, and going out on downs is all one needs to point to as evidence.

              14. I didn’t have a problem with your “bold” prediction.
                Don’t see where I called a whiner for pointing out a bad call that could have changed the philosophy of the offense. Yeah gore and Hyde were out. But anything can happen in football. And we could use tons of comeback drives that win games for evidence.
                Dont see how you are thinking a one possession game is different than a two possession game when it comes to strategy and play calling. They could have punted, and made a stop for another chance instead of going for it on 4th.
                But don’t be a onelame and prime and twist the meaning of my posts to make a point.

              15. In fact now that I think of it. On that 4th and 1 miss.
                With a 6 point lead they could have kicked a fg with something like 5 minutes left.
                So how does that 4 points not change the game thinking?

              16. 6 points or 10 points. Either way they would need a TD to win, and that wasn’t happening.

                They couldn’t even get into field goal range.

              17. No it doesn’t. Being down 10 you can tie with a FG and TD. If Harbaugh thought he could get 3 he would have gone for the FG.

              18. And two fg’s are easier than a TD and a fg.
                They were on the 37. Very makeable fg.
                Now why harbaugh didn’t go for the three there with 5 minutes left is debatable. But even if missed they’re still down by one possession with 5 left.

              19. Even if he misses it they’re down 6, and went out on downs again.

                They weren’t going win the game, and the penalty did little to change how the 49ers last two offensive possessions played out.

              20. Jack… It can’t be this hard can it?
                They shouldn’t have been DOWN BY TEN!
                It was a bad call, that gave them 4 points. Instead of a fg attempt. And who knows he could have missed that.
                I don’t see how my point can’t be any more clear. I’m done.

              21. md,

                If he were to miss a chip shot field goal you’d have an argument. The likelihood of that happening is pretty slim.

                Whine on my friend.

      2. Hammer – Alex/Niners would’ve lost those road games at Dal, NO and NYG. However, Alex does not fumble on goal line and beats Rams at home… So Alex/Niners would be 5-9 now…..Then they lose final 2 games to SD and AZ….
        I must revise the won loss record from 6-10 to 5-11….Sorry, my bad.

        In the end…..Niners have not had a good QB since Garcia.

          1. Nate Davis? What about Gabbertt?
            I’m sure the burn wounds on 77’s and primes hands have healed enough to hold up a “we want Gabbertt” sign.
            After all he did throw a 4th quarter TD

        1. Crab,

          What did Kaepernick do that was special in that Dallas game other than the long TD throw to Davis on a route we saw Smith hit a bunch in 2011-12.

          They scored on defense to open the game and then the defense set them up on the 2.

          1. Hammer – The team had confidence in #7 when they took the field 1st game in Dallas….That accounts for the good start ;)
            Not the same swag with Alex

        2. Not sure how you are coming up with that logic, Crab.

          Cowboys handed the game to the 49ers with TOs. The Giants game was a perfect example of where Alex would likely have done a better job of putting points on the board than Kaep. Five TOs for Pete’s sake, and the offense only put 16 points on the board!

          The Saints game is one that maybe Alex loses. That 4th down conversion to Crabtree I doubt that Alex makes. The Eagles game is another I think you could argue Alex wouldn’t have made that pass to Gore across his body, or the game winning line drive to Johnson in the corner. In saying that, he probably doesn’t throw the pick 6 either.

            1. Yes, but any way you slice it, getting only 16 points in a game you have 5 TOs given to you is not good.

              1. Scooter,

                Gore fumbles in the redzone on the first series, and then after a Reid interception they botch the snap on a field goal try. I don’t think you can put getting only 16 points in that one on Kaepernick.

              2. Oh it certainly wasn’t all Kaep. But did Kaep play well? Did he help to make the most of the opportunities they had?

              3. Scooter,

                He’s played at about the same level since the bye, with a brief blip up against Washington and even New Orleans if not for the drops.

          1. This isn’t about Alex vs. CK. It’s about the evaluation of CK’s game and how it relates to the teams other personnel. It just doesn’t jive. 3 and outs, stalled drives, turonovers at inopportune times. It put the defense in a lot of losing situations.
            Game management, accuracy, leadership,all things CK has struggled with all year.
            Might cost Harbaugh an extension.

            1. Harbaugh’s personality is what will likely cost him his job at the end of the year, not his coaching ability, and not any individual player.

              1. No? By hitching his wagon to a QB the management team didn’t really buy all into might not have something to do with it?
                There is a reason Paraag and York structured CK’s contract the way they did.

              2. No.

                If Kaep was the problem that Baalke and York have with Harbaugh, they’d get rid of Kaep and keep Harbaugh. You don’t get rid of a coach with Harbaugh’s record because of the play of a young QB.

            2. Not about 7 vs 11 huh? Then why am I smacking you around. News to me. Then I think we can agree were both not happy with the qb play this season, Alex smith sucks, and the o-line and play calling sucks too. Hmmm why the fighting then? Lol

            3. Oh, no, Prime, you’re wrong… With Grant and Jack EVERYTHING comes back to Kaep vs. Smith. That topic elicits far more comments on their blogs than any other. (Can’t you hear their giggles every time they bring it up?)

              1. Jack, it doesn’t have to be a specific post about Kaep Vs. Smith. It’s the constant comparisons within the posts.

                But, then, maybe that’s what the public wants. To bicker over a trade that happened two years ago–and that we were handsomely compensated for–seems nuts to me. We could just as easily be arguing over why we didn’t draft Wilson or Carr. What’s the point?

              2. No but you’ve chimed in with meaningless stats for two different ran offenses and two different teams. You’re coming after fans who refuse to blame just the qb for this years horrible offense. Keep it real Jack.
                Someone pissed in your coffee for about two weeks now.

              3. Sully,

                Again, I haven’t compared Kaepernick and Smith in any of my blog posts for over a year.

              4. md,

                I haven’t compared Smith in KC to Kaepernick. I’ve only pointed to there play in the same system in SF. And those were in comments here, not blog posts on another site.

          2. Scooter – Logic doesn’t always make sense ……Julia Roberts marrying Lyle Lovett would defy all logic but it happened.

            1. “Julia Roberts marrying Lyle Lovett would defy all logic but it happened.”

              Thanks for the laughs, Carb15!

          3. Didn’t they have those turnovers vs the saints in the playoffs? Could have sworn they had to come back from that game. With a better team.

            1. Better team but not a better receiving corps. Crabtree was in that game what he is now and Smith’s only other true option was Davis. This organization didn’t make an actual effort to fix that weakness until this season, although the results don’t show that.

  6. Sounds like Fangio expects to be here next year.

    “I don’t think we’ll really know. I can’t give you a great answer on that until after next season, after we have OTAs, training camp, some preseason games”

  7. Jack – It’s not too late to start a new blog site dedicated to the ongoing 7/11 debate…..Use the old format that we used in here previously……Think of a catchy name and you’ll get lots of action……You can count on me being there……Maybe HoferFan67 would join us too. :-)
    Hell…..I was being sarcastic but that $hit might work. Lol.

      1. I hear ya Ricardo…..York/Baalke could package a deal.
        #7/Harbs/Roman to Cleveland for Johnny Football/Josh Gordon :-)

        Next year Johnny Football or I should say Johnny Rotton can compete against The Blaine Witch project for the starting job……

        This should be an exciting off season……Lots of changes coming……..As HoferFan67 used to say. “TBD”

    1. I think Claude likes to avoid the early week gripes about the team. Well lately how it’s all ck’s fault. He will probably be back today or tomorrow. If he sticks to his latest routine

    2. Sanfranbob – A big welcome to the blog….I hope you stick around bro…It takes 2 inch thick rhinoceros skin to survive in here long term. That’s why you don’t see a dude named HoferFan67 in here anymore.

      1. Thanks crab. Long time follower recent commenter. It’ll be a long off season not sure I’ll last but I’ll check in now and then I’m sure.

    1. 60 yards in the 2nd half and the clownninermd is whinning about refs and o-line……

      hey dude…..Are you still ALL IN?

      1. Onelame get off of jacks nuts. This coming from a guy who went and researched our o-lines for the past 5 seasons just to continue his alexcuses. Child please. I’ve read you on game day complaining about bad calls.

          1. Reading skills are superb jack.
            Now I know how you make up your own stories and roll with them. Learned a lot from Grant I see.
            Like I said stick to stats and film. You hardly ever screw those up

  8. I’d like to see Mr. Grimble active and what he can do if given an opportunity to make a play down the seam….

  9. Anybody have a subscription to ESPN in (is that Insider?). It looks like Todd McShay published his Mock Draft 1.0 for 2015. He has Mariotta going to Tampa Bay at no. 1 and the Niners getting WR Devin Funchess at no. 15. However, without a subscription you can’t see the other draft positions. I’d be curious to see who he has listed in the first round, if somebody who has a subscription wouldn’t mind. Thanks.

    1. 1. Leonard Williams, DE, USC Trojans (Grade: 96)*
      6-foot-5, 290 pounds

      Williams said recently that he hasn’t made a decision on whether to enter the 2015 draft, but if he does, he has a chance to be selected very early. He has showcased an impressive all-around game this season, even while playing through injuries. He possesses excellent strength and speed for his size, and has the versatility to create mismatches all along the defensive line. His best projection is as a 5-technique defensive end, but he has the quickness and point-of-attack skills to perform inside as a 3-technique (especially in pass-rushing situations), and enough athleticism to occasionally line up as a traditional left defensive end.

      2. Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon Ducks (Grade: 95)*
      6-4, 224 pounds

      Mariota likely will win the Heisman Trophy this Saturday, and he’ll be leading the Ducks into a national semifinal matchup with Florida State on Jan. 1. He has shown improvement this season in terms of his accuracy and consistency — two areas that NFL teams that will be watching closely — and he is a dynamic athlete who puts stress on a defense with his mobility both as a runner and a thrower. Mariota has a quick, compact, over-the-shoulder release with well-above-average arm strength, so he can make all of the NFL throws. He has outstanding intangibles and a very good mental makeup.

      3. Shane Ray, DE, Missouri Tigers (Grade: 95)*
      6-2, 240 pounds

      Ray continues to rise on our draft board. He has a bit of a tweener frame, with below-average height and a lean build, but he has been incredibly productive this season, has elite speed for the position, and he explodes off the line with his first step, quick feet and hands and an effective spin move. He has initial pop but needs to improve his ability to convert speed to power. He’s an active and disruptive force against the run, making a lot of plays in pursuit, and he has a relentless motor.

      4. Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama Crimson Tide (Grade: 94)*
      6-1, 205 pounds

      Cooper is a Heisman finalist and a potential top-10 pick. He has just average size for the receiver position, and good but not elite top-end speed, but his separation and ball skills more than make up for it. He is a great route-runner who does an excellent job of tracking the ball and competing for it in the air, and he has very good run-after-catch skills. This guy is a star who has had an outstanding season: 115 catches for 1,656 yards (14.4 YPC) and 14 touchdowns. Ohio State will have its hands full with him in their national semifinal.

      5. Randy Gregory, DE, Nebraska Cornhuskers (Grade: 94)*
      6-6, 245 pounds

      There’s no question that Gregory is a great pass-rusher, but he is very lean and will definitely need to add weight to get stronger against the run at the NFL level. He’s improved at it this season, but he can still get pushed too far outside and at times gives ground. But he has good range to make plays in pursuit, and he has above-average lateral quickness and closing speed, combined with his effective rip-and-swim moves, length and finishing ability. His best fit at the next level is as a 3-4 outside linebacker.

      6. Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State Seminoles (Grade: 93)*
      6-4, 235 pounds

      Winston’s stock has the potential to fluctuate throughout the draft process. He is a top-tier talent with room to get even better, and based on what we’ve seen of him during games and on tape, he appears to be a very good on-field leader. The issues with Winston are obviously related to his off-field behavior (including the 2012 sexual assault allegation against him, which didn’t result in criminal charges), and it’s hard to know at this point what NFL teams will ultimately conclude about whether he is a guy who can be the face of their franchise. How he does during the pre-draft process, particularly the psychological testing component, will be a determining factor.

      7. Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa Hawkeyes (Grade: 92)
      6-5, 320 pounds

      Scherff projects to me as the Zack Martin of this draft class. His lack of ideal length puts into question whether he can become an NFL offensive tackle, but I think he still has a shot to become one, and at worst he has what it takes to be an excellent guard at the next level. He displays excellent toughness, he’s good in pass protection, is an elite run-blocker and is a powerful, nasty finisher.

      8. DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville Cardinals (Grade: 92)
      6-3, 207 pounds

      We already really liked Parker’s talent coming into the season, but what he has done since returning to the field after missing the first seven games of the season with a foot injury is really impressive. He has caught 35 passes for 735 yards (21.0 YPC) and five TDs in five games back. He has an above-average size-speed combo with the ability to run under the deep ball and make defenders miss, and to pick up extra yards after the catch. He has good separation skills and can pluck the ball out of the air and make over-the-shoulder catches.

      9. Danny Shelton, DT, Washington Huskies (Grade: 92)
      6-2, 332 pounds

      Shelton has just been a beast this season, and has emerged as a legitimate first- or second-round prospect. He’s on the shorter side with a wide, thick and powerful frame. He does an excellent job of occupying blocks (he demands double-teams), and he’s a better athlete than most nose tackles, with the quickness and strength to make plays versus the run. Stamina will always be an issue for a player his size, but when he has the energy level, he has proved to be a playmaker both in pursuit and as a bull-rusher.

      10. Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia Bulldogs (Grade: 91)*
      6-3, 226 pounds

      Floyd is a nightmare speed rusher who is also athletic enough to hold up in coverage and is effective as a sideline-to-sideline run defender. As a prospect, he compares favorably to a young Barkevious Mingo as a productive pass-rusher with an extremely high ceiling. He explodes out of the blocks with elite get-off speed and acceleration, and he shows good natural bend and body control. He has flashed the potential to effectively convert speed to power as a pass-rusher despite needing to improve his strength.

      11. Landon Collins, S, Alabama Crimson Tide (Grade: 91)*
      6-0, 212 pounds

      Collins is a really impressive athlete for a safety with his compact build, quick feet and good body control in coverage. He’s a good open-field tackler who plays with a chip on his shoulder, and while he can look a bit lost at times (including taking some poor angles when the ball is in the air), he has impressive ball skills to go with good length, leaping ability and hand-eye coordination.

      12. Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State Seminoles (Grade: 91)*
      6-4, 315 pounds

      Goldman is a former top-rated recruit who has really put it all together this season. He first caught my attention when I studied the tape of Florida State’s win over NC State, and from what I’ve seen this season he has looked like the Seminoles’ best defensive player. He has a thick build, moves well and can be overpowering for blockers. He suffered an ankle injury in FSU’s ACC title game win over Georgia Tech, but he’s expected to play in the national semifinal against Oregon.

      13. Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M Aggies (Grade: 91)
      6-5, 304 pounds

      Ogbuehi has played both tackle spots for the Aggies this season. He is excellent in pass protection with outstanding quickness and natural athleticism, and he shows good mobility as a zone blocker in the running game. He needs to improve his lower-body strength and leverage after initial contact, but overall he is good as a run-blocker as well. He rates well in terms of toughness and character.

      14. Kevin White, WR, West Virginia Mountaineers (Grade: 91)
      6-3, 211 pounds

      White has gone from being a mid-round prospect in the preseason to the No. 3 wide receiver on our board. He’s a late-riser in part because this is just his second full season at West Virginia, having transferred from Lackawana College in January 2013. He has mid-4.4 speed to go with his excellent size for the position, and while he is a little tight in his movement skills and will need time to develop more as a route-runner, he has natural instincts when it comes to separating when the ball is in the air. White has the quickness and strength needed to beat the press and is a vertical threat who is also dangerous after the catch.

      15. Dante Fowler Jr., DE, Florida Gators (Grade: 90)*
      6-2, 271 pounds

      Fowler is a big and strong edge-setter in the run game who has really good striking ability as a tackler and the ability to jar the ball loose with his long arms. He has growth potential as a pass-rusher but lacks elite physical traits and isn’t yet a polished finisher. He does have above-average first-step quickness for his size, and in particular has flashed some effectiveness as an inside rusher at nose tackle or a 3-technique in nickel and dime packages.

      16. Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin Badgers (Grade: 90)*
      6-1, 207 pounds

      I was on the sideline for Gordon’s record-setting game with 409 yards rushing against Nebraska this season (the record has since been broken by Oklahoma freshman Samaje Perine), and what impressed me most about Gordon was his patience and vision, as he did a great job of waiting for creases to open and then exploding through them with great acceleration off his plant foot. He also has good lateral agility to make defenders miss in small creases, and he has good, but not elite, top-end speed (he isn’t a Jamaal Charles-level burner). He has shown improvement in the passing game.

      17. Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.) Hurricanes (Grade: 90)*
      6-6, 325 pounds

      Flowers has a massive frame that allows him to recover in pass protection and open up lanes in the running game, along with above-average agility and a quick first step for his size. His football instincts are good overall, he takes good angles, he plays with an edge and has excellent intangibles.

      18. Vic Beasley, OLB, Clemson Tigers (Grade: 89)
      6-3, 220 pounds

      Beasley has been active and productive all season long. His first-step quickness and closing speed are notches below elite, but he displays good speed-to-power potential as a pass-rusher. He is at his best when shooting gaps, and shows good instincts and the ability to quickly locate the ball as a run defender. He has the potential to develop into a sideline-to-sideline tackler. The big concern for him is his NFL position fit, as he’s undersized for a player who is at his best working up the field.

      19. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh Panthers (Grade: 89)
      6-4, 313 pounds

      Clemmings played poorly last season after transitioning from defensive line to offensive tackle after Pittsburgh was ravaged by injuries on its O-line, in large part because he had no idea what he was doing. But he was on our radar heading into 2014 based on his raw physical tools and high upside, and it’s clear that his offseason work paid off. He’s still very much a work in progress, but he has an excellent combination of length, agility and upper-body power.

      20. Devin Funchess, WR, Michigan Wolverines (Grade: 89)*
      6-4, 235 pounds

      We’ve changed Funchess’ position designation in our draft rankings from tight end to wide receiver, as he’s been playing there for Michigan and it seems like his more likely position at the NFL — although you could consider him something of a hybrid at this point. He is a downfield threat as a pass-catcher with his size and speed, and he also flashes the ability to make the first defender miss and has the strength to pick up yards after contact. He has already declared for the draft.

      21. Marcus Peters, CB, Washington Huskies (Grade: 89)
      5-11, 193 pounds

      Peters was dismissed from the Washington program earlier this season after having been held out of games on more than one occasion for behavioral issues. Obviously, NFL teams are going to want to take a closer look at the reasons for his dismissal. But in terms of his talent, he has prototypical size for the cornerback position to go with above-average top-end speed. He gets into trouble in coverage on occasion because of a lack of proper footwork and technique, but makes up for it with good athleticism and fluidity, and he’s effective in press technique because of his physicality.

      22. Shaq Thompson, OLB, Washington Huskies (Grade: 88)*
      6-2, 224 pounds

      Thompson is undersized for an outside linebacker (he will never be a strong take-on guy), but he makes up for that with excellent speed and athleticism. His credentials as an outstanding athlete have been on full display this season, as the Huskies have used him extensively at running back, where he has thrived, but he projects as a defender at the next level. He has sideline-to-sideline range against the run and very good coverage skills, and he is a fundamentally sound and reliable tackler, with the ability to deliver a big hit.

      23. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon Ducks (Grade: 88)
      5-9, 185 pounds

      Ekpre-Olomu is a twitched-up athlete with clean movement skills who makes quick transitions out of breaks and shows an explosive closing burst in coverage. He can hold up in man coverage on an island and is physical and aggressive in run support, as well. Ekpre-Olomu is a big-time playmaker for the Ducks, with very good ball skills to go with good instincts.

      24. Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia Bulldogs (Grade: 88)*
      6-0, 230 pounds

      Gurley’s torn ACL will have an impact on his draft stock, and the progress he shows in his recovery and how he checks out with the medical staffs of the NFL teams will be determining factors in where he gets drafted. But this is a guy who was a potential top-20 pick before the injury, so there’s still a chance a team drafting at the end of the first round could take him. If you’re comfortable with investing that high of a pick in a running back, and you aren’t worried about his long-term durability because of this injury or previous ones, you have the chance to hit the lottery with him — even late in the first round (although at this point I’d say he’s more likely to wind up in the second round). He’s a rare talent who has the potential to be an exceptional back at the next level — a hard, downhill runner who complements his tremendous power with breakaway speed.

      25. Kevin Johnson, RB, Wake Forest Demon Deacons (Grade: 87)
      6-foot, 175 pounds

      Johnson is lean and has short arms but is still an aggressive and physical press corner. He’s also a willing tackler in run support. He doesn’t have elite speed, but he is fast and fluid enough as an athlete to run with most receivers, and he makes up for it with excellent instincts and recognition skills — reading quarterbacks, anticipating receivers’ breaks and rarely getting caught out of position.

      26. Malcom Brown, DT, Texas Longhorns (Grade: 87)*
      6-foot-3, 317 pounds

      Brown is an underclassman, but I think he’ll be selected within the top 50 picks if he leaves school after this season. He’s a 320-pounder with an impressive combination of quickness and power who plays all along the line of scrimmage for the Longhorns. He’s versatile, very disruptive and has a good motor.

      27. La’el Collins, OT, LSU Tigers (Grade: 87)
      6-4, 324 pounds

      Collins projects as either a right tackle or guard in the pros, given his massive frame. As a run-blocker, he fires off the ball with very good straight-line burst, and has the lower-body strength and strong hands to drive defenders off the line. He also shows good awareness and toughness. Collins is average in pass protection, showing a strong anchor, but he can get into trouble, occasionally lunging and falling off some blocks.

      28. Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State Sun Devils (Grade: 87)*
      6-4, 212 pounds

      Strong has had a very good season, and his combination of production (75 catches, 1,062 yards, 14.2 YPC, 10 TDs) and physical tools is going to be intriguing to NFL teams. He has very good ball skills, with a big catch radius and the ability to make contested catches in traffic.

      29. A.J. Cann, G, South Carolina Gamecocks (Grade: 87)
      6-2, 319 pounds

      Cann is a high-character lineman with awareness and toughness. He isn’t an elite athlete, nor is he overpowering at the point of attack, but he possesses good quickness, agility and balance for the position, allowing him to hold up well in pass protection. He does a good job with his first step and overall angles as a run-blocker.

      30. Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford Cardinal (Grade: 86)*
      6-7, 312 pounds

      Peat has the ideal physical tools you look for in a starting NFL left tackle. He displays good length, a strong anchor, a powerful upper body and excellent overall agility in pass protection. As a run-blocker, he has the power base to drive defenders off the ball. On tape, his football instincts appear to be good, and he flashes a nasty side on occasion. He has been a little inconsistent this season, which is why we moved him down the board this week.

      31. Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State Spartans (Grade: 85)*
      6-1, 182 pounds

      Waynes has good length and speed for the cornerback position, and is at his best in a press-man or Cover 2 role. He has above-average field awareness and can track the ball well and maintain good position in coverage. He’s also willing to come up in run support and is a sure open-field tackler.

      32. Denzel Perryman, LB, Miami (FL) Hurricanes (Grade: 85)*
      5-11, 248 pounds

      This guy is a stud. He’s the quarterback of the Hurricanes’ defense and displays good anticipation and diagnostic skills, but what really stands out is his tackling ability. He’s a thumper who can deliver the big hit and occasionally jar the ball loose, and he shows good body control in space. Perryman possesses the strength to hold his own against and to shed blockers, and above-average range versus the run.

      1. Thanks, Sully. The list you provided isn’t exactly Todd’s list of who selected who (I saw a video of who he believes the first five will be that are selected), but it is interesting information.

  10. So here’s a question: Gabbert and Colin were both drafted in 2011. What if Colin went to the Jags instead of the Niners? How would he do on that bad team?
    Gabbert only started for two seasons, and sat most of 2013. We’re all so quick to say that he sucks, but maybe he needs a few more opportunities?

    Get this: Here’s the Jags stats for offense in 2014:

    29th in passing. 25th Rushing.

    Niners — 28th in passing. 13th in rushing.

    1. I think regardless of who the QB is on those type of teams(Jags/Browns), you have to start looking at the FO. Tim Couch made a statement that echoed Bernie Kosar. He said the Browns have zero loyalty to coaches and QB’s. Neither have time to build a relationship to develop the QB, nor do they put talent around the QB to help them. Tim said its time for people to stop blaming the QB’s and focus on the organization. I believe if Tom Brady or Peyton went to one of those organizations they would have struggled due to the fact they never really help out their young QB’s. The QB’s get down on themselves mentally and it’s over from there.

  11. You guys seem to know instinctively what a “dobber” is. Can you tell me? If a dobber can get down — I would assume it can also be up. Can it also go sideways?

  12. Damian Trujillo tweeting news about Ray McDonald. Will it never end.

    Damian Trujillo @newsdamian · 8m 8 minutes ago
    No arrests made yet. Suspect is Ray McDonald. Allowing due process.
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    San Jose, CA

    Damian Trujillo @newsdamian · 11m 11 minutes ago
    CONFIRMED by #SJPD. Search warrant served on Ray McDonald house yesterday. #49ers
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    San Jose, CA

    Damian Trujillo @newsdamian · 20m 20 minutes ago
    Rape allegations in last 10 days at McDonald home, sources. #49ers
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    Damian Trujillo @newsdamian · 37m 37 minutes ago
    BREAKING: SOURCES: #49ers Ray McDonald house served with search warrant last night, @MaioccoCSN. More to come.
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  13. With us out of the playoffs, we can look to next year. I had mentioned about signing someone like Fales off a practice squad. It turned out Chicago moved him to the roster because NE was trying to sign him. I wonder how they view Garoppollo then. I wanted him last year.
    We looked at the rugby RB. We’ll be looking at the WR Duron Carter from the CFL.

    The college bowl games are coming up and there are a lot of top players to scout now that we are out.
    Parker, Louisville
    White, West Virginia
    Strong, Arizona State

    Grayson, Colorado State
    Cook, Michigan State
    Petty, Baylor

    You guys were talking about Parker the other day. It was said he ran a 4.39 last year. He’d been working on his speed and ran a 4.34 this year. He’s fast, but is likely a 4.4 guy at the combine like Moncrief was.

    1. Thanks for not putting CB in the list…

      …as Grant loves pontificate about CBs… It is all about “pass rush” and scheme. However, to Grants credit he did mix up K. Benjamin (Go Noles) into the Niners draft sermon.

      * Before anyone rebuts the CB statement, the Niners D is ranked 3rd with its patchy secondary. Yes slot CB is an issue, Ward may come around but that is on Fangio and TB to think he could cover Brandon Marshal. They should of adjusted earlier in the season. We have some young talented CBs on IR this year.

      We need to stick with CK at least for another half year to a year…we need young WRs. It bothers me to see all these WRs from last year’s historic draft producing.

      We need play makers on offence. We even need some field stretching WRs that are bums, but at least have them stress the D and throw it out of reach a few times a game…might get lucky a la Ricardo Lockette… WTF

    2. Cook is staying at Michigan State, which makes a bad QB class even worse. I don’t see any sure fire prospects at the position including Mariota and Winston. The draft seems to be big on Dlineman and passrushers. Some good WR’s as well.

  14. I liked Harbaugh and he is good at turning programs around. At Stanford, he brought in good coordinators in Roman and Fangio to improve even more.
    Roman has a college offense with a gimmicky running game and the read option.
    Harbaugh hand picks a QB Kaep for that offense. It’s failed in the NFL.
    What I can’t get over is how clueless Harbaugh is to all this. He didn’t see NFL defenses figured out how to stop this. He didn’t see what limitations Kaep had as a passer. He didn’t see the need to replace Roman. Last year, was the decision year whether to keep Kaep, bring in competition, or sign him long term.
    According to Tim K’s articles, Harbaugh sold the 49ers on Kaep long term and didn’t want us to draft a QB .
    All this is why I’m fine with him leaving now.
    Did Harbaugh set us up to get stuck with Kaep? After the near Clev trade, did he hope to get fired this year? How long has he planned to move to Oakland?
    He went and worked out QB’s last year. Carr was not one of them. Now, it’s rumored he likes him. How come he didn’t encourage the 49ers to add him then as competition? Did he tell Oakland he wanted him for the future?
    What burns me is the lasting damage he’s going to leave behind when he leaves. We have the failure Kaep. At least it’s a contract we can get out of.
    It would be bad to cut him for nothing. I don’t know what we could get in trade. I wonder what Chip Kelly could do with him.
    We have no young QB to replace him. Gabbert hasn’t been good yet and is a FA. There isn’t anyone good in FA to sign. Trades available like Cutler are bad.
    The draft is weak in QB’s and many are running QB’s or from a spread offense.
    If Harbaugh really loves Kaep, then we need to make it a package deal on any trade.
    They can also take the entire offensive staff except for Rathman.
    Harbaugh and Kaep to Oakland for Carr and a pick. Watching Carr play QB against us was refreshing. It will burn me to see him next year with Carr in Oakland if we are suffering in SF still with Kaep.
    Or Harbaugh and Kaep to Miami for Tannehill and a pick.
    We need a new QB, new coach, and to finally draft a no 1 WR in Parker. I want someone with a good offensive mind like Gase to be the coach.

    1. I’d argue the need to replace Roman was there last year. But everything needs to work together in a team sport. CK took a step back, we (new coach and staff) need to see if he has a higher ceiling next year. Starting over at QB is not a great idea at this time. We have someone who has proven to make plays… we need fresh eyes to help and to see how to exploit the defenses. Look, missing open WRs consistently is ALL on CK… ALL on him. Can that be correctly 50%??? I think so…hope so…

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